The Disc Golf Tip that got me throwing over 400ft...with room yet to improve.

[@austinasherbriscoe6800]

Hands down the best tip on KZbin. I’m a lefty the was stuck around 350-375 ft on backhand. My buddy sent me this video and I went out to the field to give it a shot and instantly threw 420ft!! It takes some practice and I haven’t quite dialed it in but I can get it out over 400ft pretty consistently. Thanks for the tip I cannot wait to see how it changes my game once I dial it in.

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

So happy to hear! Keep crushing it man. 🤝🤝

[@joseroldan9225]

Your humble delivery and genuine enthusiasm for sharing what you have learned, has given me hope for humanity,.

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

💪Thanks! 🤝

[@mikaelschloenzig9590]

You are cracking the throwing enigma for me after 10 years of playing.....Thanks!

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

Cheers!!!

[@nathanowsley]

Thank you for this. It is so nice to get useful tidbits like this, especially when it isnt the same thing everyone else is talking about. Im really excited to go try to find some more spin! Please keep giving us more little secrets like this.

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

Dang man thank you. Will do.

[@theoneandonlystanima7018]

Can confirm. I am a long time player, MA40 currently. I've been stuck for a long time. Sprained my right hand and switched to lefty a couple years back. Over this last off-season, I have been working on my lefty game, realizing I should have been lefty all along. My wife bought me a TechDisc for Christmas and I immediately discovered my issue. As a "new" player (with no bad habits baked into my lefty form) the TechDisc immediately showed the deficiency in spin between my left and right arms. My right has 20+ years of wear and tear. I can throw farther lefty for sure, as my speed is a full 10mph faster (60 mph). But the spin was less than 1000 rpms. My right hand hits around 1200 but is only 50mph. As someone who throws approx 370 lefty.... I feel like getting my spin rate to 1200 should get me over 400'. It's crazy since I can throw my Hex righty as far as my drivers because you don't need the speed to get the midrange to glide...just spin. I am glad this video reinforces what the raw data pointed out.

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

So nice to hear! hope you are able to continue to play and enjoy playing pain free as a learned ambidextrous person! hah Cheers !

[@michaelnilsson2023]

Very pleasant video! I appreciate how you talk about your own throws, and not just delivering silver bullets to the world. Keep it up! =]

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

ty ty! 🤝

[@brice27128]

Yup indeed the greatest tip, my back hand is around 400-450 and feels like I can get more yet. I realized this early on from watching pros like Calvin and matty O. Coil the wrist heavily and remain coiled all the way through your reach back. Really generates a crazy amount of spins on the disk and makes it a lot easier to throw higher speed drivers. Amazing tip!!!

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

ty sir. what is your go to disc for big distance?

[@brice27128]

@@hotbeefdiscgolfstar corvette 165-168g $ star wraith 168g $

[@blue5had0w]

​@@hotbeefdiscgolfValkyrie 165g. I hit 280 all day long.

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

I bet you have more in the tank!🤝

[@leopard3131]

Great description of the sensation you learned.

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

ty ty!

[@lostweat]

Niklas Antilla does the disc pivot as well. It's pretty pronounced as he holds the disc in place with his off arm and right as he releases it comes out of his hand so fast that you can see his wrist extending out. Thanks for the tip good sir!

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

oh solid call out. That dude is such a solid golfer. 1040 gap hitter with wicked sneaky distance. Best player to ever come out of Europe?

[@pallew]

​@@hotbeefdiscgolfclose but it would probably be Simon Lizotte though

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

Oh my goodness gracious...you right. It's so easy to forget he isn't a born and bred new englander

[@christiandehlinger]

Thanks man. I am an old guy that really enjoys the game picking it up last fall. I have trouble with my shoulder as I have drilled holes for 42 years. I workout and I am fit but last fall trying to figure out how to throw, I really pulled my shoulder and still working on recovery. I keep believing and to some degree its true, that hand speed is a must. We know if you can move your hand at 65 instead of 55 the disc must leave faster. But as you note, and I watch Simon, and the ease and smoothness of his throws don't seem like he is throwing that hard particularly on an approach shot. You are not last to the party but I have been trying to incorporate "wrist flip" into my putts and throws but this was helpful as you described it - Thanks!

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

Cheers! I hope you continue to play pain free. Ease of throw is something I have been putting more and more stock into. I've felt things get uncomfortable quickly when trying to throw farther so smooth is what I aim for these days.

[@jamesonklein9363]

Hey, shoulder issues are super common when first starting out. This is caused by rounding 99% of the time. I did the same thing, in fact it got so bad I could barely lift up my arm. I fixed the issue (and added 200ft) by completely eliminating any sort of rounding. It just puts too much strain on the should joint but also kills speed. All of us had to fix it when starting out 👍

[@stefanhoffman7052]

Thats an awesome story. Its a casual fun sport i love when I hop in with people like you. We can all do impressive stuff in this game.

[@E-bike652]

Great tip. Question… I find the power grip so awkward so I throw with a fan grip. Will this tip help me with distance even with that grip? Thanks, Craig

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

I am willing to bet it will help immensely.

[@dylanwolff741]

I’m the same age and have been playing for the same amount of time. I am actually stuck at the same 340 mark as well when it comes to consistently throwing long. I seen so many vids on bracing and footwork but this is a nice golden tidbit I’ll definitely have to keep in mind. Have a good season, bro.

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

You as well man! much appreciated.

[@TheMakki]

Eric Boogz enjoyer?

[@jcgarcia1931]

Excellent tip! I have good days and bad days like everyone else. You may have just solved my problem with why that is... I kept thinking my form felt stiffer on bad days but the hand rotating around the disc for that final snap tracks with me. More to it than that I'm sure but that's a piece of my puzzle I haven't considered. Thank you!

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

Cheers dude!

[@pallew]

I just hit 100m(330ft) yesterday, finally :O I will try this out for sure too, thanks for sharing!

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

thats a huge milestone! keep always trying new things

[@benjaminhutchings5721]

@pallew how did it go? This is where I am too. I average 280' but I can get up into 330' on ideal fairways with the right wind conditions. I've thrown farther on grip locks and crazy downhill fairways, but I don't count those. I am going to try this technique combined with recent improvements I added to my form including: "winning the arm wrestle", "the no look", and "throwing the elbow".

[@JinGalactica]

Yes and yes. I was able to finally break 450 with this technique. It’s hard to explain, but it feels like you’re turning a wheel in your power pocket. You know? And like you said, turn the disc around you. That’s where the disc spins very fast. Like you wanna spin the disc very fast and whip all at once. The timing needs to be impeccable but once you get it, ooooh baby.

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

The more I watch coverage now the more I look for this. some guys do it very subtly and others are very pronounced.

[@rjbarnette7087]

I’m gonna have to try that out!!! Thanks for the video!!! I’m 51 and have been throwing for a year now and I’m hovering around 325’… Looking for that extra 50-75 feet, if my body allows it!!! Lol

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

Oh its there! Get that thing spinning! 🖖

[@Jonse70]

Just saw this, and I will definitely give it a go. But I can already tell you that I've never had much emphasis on that part of the throw, so I'm excited to try it out. Averaging 300 feet Beginner.

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

can't wait to hear how it goes. I heard somewhere else that the same movement that adds spin increases arm speed and the result is snap.

[@FrJacobRogers]

Great tip. Good video. I’m excited to try it and see if I can get through my own 340 bubble.

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

You can!

[@tlaltmey]

Great video! Took me a brief minute, but I recognize the old stomping grounds! (Cascade)

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

ty ty! yeah this time of year there aren't many other people on the fields...(just piles of dog turds to dodge even though the dog park is in the park...)

[@OGSouz]

Awesome video! Thanks for the advice, I noticed your left arm is staying away from your body on the follow through… if you keep that arm tight and in front of your body you will be well over 400 every throw! Keep it up bro !

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

I am actively working on that! Thanks a ton bro beans! 🤝

[@soulparole]

I like how you threw towards the flag pole as it gives a good idea how your discs (like the glitch) fly in that approximate amount of wind.

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

Didn't do that intentionally but thats a great note for me to keep in mind for the future, thanks!

[@coryaronson2678]

Like Mr Finland rocking discs to sleep ... Niklas Attila has smooth form...

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

yeah he does. smooth with sneaky distance!

[@Joah1990]

This is so true. I discovered this to get me from 260 to 300 plus. Ive been working on my legs and hips now. Maxing out ariund 340. But the end of the throw is the do or die moment. Whatyoure talking about here is the difference between the whip cracking or not cracking

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

This makes a ton of sense! I feel like the boom mic didn't really pick up the snap but its much more audible these days

[@Flakzor123]

It is certainly true that we often neglect "spinning the disc" on release. Personally I play 90% of my rounds on wooded courses so it is quite natural for me to finish my throws with more emphasis on control and this tends to stay in my form when im throwing for distance in the open as well. In your case I think the next step would be getting the weightshift to trigger your "pull" as you are currently throwing more off the back leg and weightshifting midswing so the shift and brace "hit" coincides. If you instead plant and weightshift to trigger the pull your body has time to "switch sides" from left to right in terms of which part of your core becomes the "center" for your stability. This also allows the left leg to function better as the counterweight for your posturecontrol much like a kangaroos tail does as long as you "bring the leg with you" by dropping the knee and turning the foot/knee/hip in, the major change there would be that the "legdrive" is not so much against the ground but rather against the stored momentum of the leg itself after the weightshift. I think Gurthie is probably one of the better examples of throwing power from a seemingly "passive" left leg that is instead employed as a counterweight but most people may need to bring the knee further forward to account for lesser hipmobility. In my not so humble opinion the key to his power from the legs there is partly the downward motion caused by his "brinster hop" so he can work with a lot more downforce on both his brace and his counterweight compared to x-stepping flat without dropping his hips. In any case a more "counterweighted" or "stable" stance is what you need to get the swing to assist you in spinning that disc around by using the wrist-disc distance as the final lever in your "throwing arm"... we tend to focus more on spine-shoulder, shoulder-elbow and also somewhat on the elbow-hand levers but wrist-disc is essentially a 4th lever of extension that is important in "cracking the whip". I think Drew Gibson is also a really good example of a player using all levers and he almost exaggerates it in his distance throws where you see him pull the disc 20 degrees right of what would be a "control" throw.

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

I am going to take this into account during next field work session. ty ty!

[@papigringo5692]

Awesome tip, my man. I'm gonna give it a try. I really struggle with BH distance; I think I'm maxing out at around 250. Back/neck/shoulder issues have a lot to do with that, but I'm thinking this tip might give me some extra distance.

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

Be smooth like MattyO man! Then we will shred until we die.

[@Tank4Life]

Great tip!

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

ty ty 🤝

[@cupbowlspoonforkknif]

This might be the breakthrough I need. Except I'm trying to consistently break 200'. I've noticed pro's discs spinning like crazy when they hit the ground so I know lack of spin is part of it.

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

You got this homie

[@jcon654]

Bro dope thanks man awesome!!🎉

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

ty ty

[@JohnSmith-ef2sx]

Interesting. Yeah matty o does have a very exaggerated concept of this I always noticed but never put too much thought into it. I'll give it a try ... I would like to know what your spin rate is with using the tech disc. Seems to me like you're probably getting really good spin

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

I would love to know as well. Local shop will have a tech disc station in the near future. Soon as they do I intend to book a session, plus maybe get a little coaching!

[@crissycodywhite5821]

cool vid! is this the same as just cocking your wrist until the last moment?

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

I think the intent was to make it a little bit more of an active movement than a passive one. Just giving it the little bit of extra influence of spin.

[@KarmicPatina]

good stuff brother

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

ty ty 🤝

[@mikelaurell]

I always wondered why my throws sometimes snapped and more often wouldnt.

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

This certainly helped me find more of it

[@MacRay14]

I'll have to work on this and see if it helps. My backhand drives are so bad. Like, I swear most max out at ~200ft but my forehand gets ~320.

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

Hope it helps! If your looking for more help I might be able to point you in the right direction!🖖

[@MacRay14]

@@hotbeefdiscgolf appreciate you man! I gotta find some time to even practice these things haha

[@benchalmers8757]

‘Round thee outside ‘round thee outside

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

haha never thought about this!

[@eastbaysteez21]

Watch antilla aswell on his hand set up before he throws. A lot of spin generated. I need to focus on this more. Thanks man

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

Cheers! That dude is so dang good.

[@kale.humphries]

this is an awesome video! just curious though, how have you noticed this affecting your accuracy when throwing? has it caused more griplocks/early releases?

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

This might sound crazy, but I feel more confident in hitting gaps and knowing exactly where the release point is...I grip locked a couple times while playing with it but it hasn't been an issue after the first couple fieldwork sessions.

[@goatwards]

I’m still getting ah-ha moments today. My max distance I’ve ever thrown is around 460 but I wasn’t able to throw over 420 consistently until I watched Ricky Wysocki throw in a recent event. I noticed how he curls his hand so far back to get lots of spin so I tried it and it worked a little but it was painful and I was burning over too many shots. But I also watched a KZbin short that showed the difference between a pro player and an amateur players form. They both moved at the same speed but the pro player looked all the way back at his disc on his reach back which allowed him to move his hips more so I combined the 2 and threw very well better more consistent and straight shots.

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

Love to hear it. I have been working on some similar things as well recently and have found myself in the 430-440 range but i STILL feel like theres more in the tank (I might be wrong tho lol)

[@goatwards]

@@hotbeefdiscgolf nah you definitely have more in the tank 500+ is my next goal. I bet you can get there too. I think 500 feet on flat ground is probably more than enough to score well on pretty much any course

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

Agreed! 💪

[@OneFocusPhotos]

Hoping this is my aha moment. I feel like I'm doing everything right but still only throwing 200ft. I think I threw 250 once. I definitely haven't been doing what you do though. Excited to see!

[@antoniokehoe2363]

What discs do you typically throw? I believe you can surpass 200 easily and may even be a simpler explanation for what you have going on. Might be a nose angle issue also

[@OneFocusPhotos]

@@antoniokehoe2363 well all my discs go around the same distance. I can sidearm putters around 220 and sidearm the heat around 250-280. Backhand my heat goes maybe 250 tops but probably around 220ish. Definitely throwing nose up a lot though. Almost impossible for me to throw nose down no matter what I do.

[@antoniokehoe2363]

@@OneFocusPhotos Ah ok. I'm sure you've been told before but do you ever really throw any mids? If you're getting roughly the same distance (or only slightly more) with the fast discs it's best to just throw those putters and mids. Those will really show you what you may be doing. Something that really helped me start to get the nose down better was holding the disc (for backhands) in what some call a brief case position. So if you're holding the disc you are holding by the rim like usual but the top of the disc would be facing your body and the disc is straight up and down. As you are "pulling through" for lack of better term your arm will naturally try and flatten this out and help bring the nose down. Maybe give that a try. It helped me a lot to get the feel of it and as I started doing that I no longer briefcase because I understand the feeling

[@OneFocusPhotos]

@@antoniokehoe2363 funny enough just saw a video a couple mins ago about the brief case. Seemed like it would help a ton. I've only thrown nose down once ever. It shot off so fast. Right now I only throw putters and drivers since mids go the same as putters for me. I'm hoping soon my discs go all different distances. I literally throw like 3 or 4 different discs tops all round.

[@antoniokehoe2363]

@@OneFocusPhotos Awesome, definitely give it a try! It helped a ton for me and really try to engage the hips. Again I'm sure this is all stuff you've heard before. Honestly, if I could go back and start all over I would have only thrown mids and putters. If you're only getting maybe 30 or so feet more with a driver I honestly wouldn't throw them. Of course I have no idea how they fly for you but if it was anything like me, it taught me bad habits to force the disc to do things it may not necessarily be intended to do. For instance I would throw drivers from the start and because I couldn't get them up to speed I would throw them on a good amount of anhyzer to force it to flex and get more distance. This of course created bad habits. I hope you don't take it as I'm telling you what to do, just offering some advice that helped me and might do the same for someone else! Keep chuckin that plastic and you will get there I guarantee

[@Riverhouserecordings]

In your demonstration, is this motion not causing you to drop your elbow significantly?

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

Its possible. TBH there are other things I am also working on.

[@kushxclinton]

what discs are you throwing? i feel like I’m close to getting the release down but i also need the right discs.

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

In this video I was throwing MVP discs because I wanted to try a bunch of em out. The go-to's in this video were the mayhem and teleport. Teleports that come out with a little dome are slept on.

[@seabas22]

If you want to get to 500' the last part is throwing the disc around your hand.

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

🤯

[@sarinhighwind]

Haha your logo is great

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

ty ty. Hot Dogs are a funny food.

[@fathomz]

dang.. never though of it this way!

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

Hope it helps!

[@brandonbecker4479]

I feel like this is Ricky wysocki’s main emphasis for getting distance.

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

I swear I was just watching him throw the other day and was thinking the EXACT same thing

[@brandonbecker4479]

@@hotbeefdiscgolf for sure. I’ve always noticed that his swing focuses much more on “turning the handle” than it does on getting a full reach back.

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

It can be hard to see because his form is kinda goofy but the disc comes out soooo fast.

[@randydorrow1689]

Thanks bro. Mr. D.😊😊😊

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

🤝

[@ToddsDiscGolf]

Thanks brother

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

Cheers!

[@oldfarmking7053]

Hey man, I think me and my buddie saw you at olds probably 2 weeks ago man cool, I know where you're at the park is nice where you're at not many people play cause of the tee pads but yea over all you can practice field work tgere.

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

Was awesome to meet you dudes! Yeah that area provides great open fields for fieldwork!

[@jamesonklein9363]

I’m not so sure about this. I think it help for a smoother stroke, but not convinced it adds much distance. I’m 31 and have been playing for about 6 months and can throw my venom/destroyer around the 450 mark. I’ll tinker with this idea in the field but based on my experience (albeit limited) it’s more about torc and speed

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

dang dog thats impressive. TBH I will always accept it possible and often likely that I am wrong. However this was just the thing that I worked on to get me to where I am at. I think 450 might be possible for me soon but there are other things I need to work on to get there!

[@jamesonklein9363]

@@hotbeefdiscgolf Yeah I mean you bring up good examples so it’s quite possible I’m just ignorant, just not something I’ve ever considered I suppose. You’re close to hitting 450 for sure dude

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

I can feel it.....I really feel like its in the tank

[@jamesonklein9363]

Hey man watched the video back again. Noticed you’re not really perpendicular to the target, you’re more straight to the target, which takes your lower body out of the throw. This could be the adjustment you’re looking for to get some distance being left on the table

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

good catch. Think you are totally right.

[@kbarb3071]

Cascade township Park?

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

sure is!

[@kbarb3071]

@@hotbeefdiscgolf nice I used to play there fairly often as it was closer to where I work I miss the old layout 😞

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

teepads would drastically increase the playability.

[@kbarb3071]

@@hotbeefdiscgolf yes! Still a good spot to work on form and such

[@carcasscruncher9354]

I wont know the results of this advice but it seems sound. Ill get back to you soon.

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

Can't wait!

[@stefanhoffman7052]

Good stuff. When you are describing distance, the word is FARTHER. Idk why it bugs me so much. Its fucking FARTHER.

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

Haha I went back just to see that I did that. Good Catch. You would hate to hear me pronounce "milk" or "creek"

[@ilikebacon.6483]

n1 manlet

[@jordanbailey5676]

Just finished watching a bunch of videos on rounding and then the first thing this guy says is "your hand moving aROUND the disc" 🤦‍♂️

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

Two very different things. Rounding refers to the path the disc is traveling, as in the disc is being pulled around the body and not in a straight line. pulling the disc in a straight line while moving your hand around it like a steering wheel is the advice I am giving.

[@tacosocks2576]

Great tips. 🥏

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

ty ty 🖖

[@tacosocks2576]

@@hotbeefdiscgolf went to the local soccer field armed with your lesson in mind and started cranking oit bombers with my Balista. Cheers 👊

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

heck yes! So glad to hear! Used to throw a ballista myself. Had a nice domey one that would go abour 390. Wonder how much more I could get out of one these days (395?!?!) hah

[@user-ws9di5kp9h]

Great vid. No bs. Great attitude, you look natural on camera. Keep at it my dude. Easy sub. Takes others a long time to get this quality of a video.

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

much appreciated!🤝

[@ericrash8506]

Yeah pretty sure most everyone knew this but very good video. The last thing I needed to increase distance that I was stuck at was throwing my left side around. I always focused on my throwing arm and could only get 300 or a bit more. Once I started focusing on power pocket, coil, plant and then throw my left side around fast as I could then the 400s and 450s came.👍🏻🥏

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

I knew I was a slow learner. 🤣

[@gnlout7403]

I didn't know it 😉

[@JohnicaAndrews]

I didn't know this either.

[@frankiereliford4105]

Great tip!

[@hotbeefdiscgolf]

ty ty