The "Disease" That Struck Medieval Church Organs

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@TheEccedentesiastX
@TheEccedentesiastX 4 жыл бұрын
What is your diagnosis, Doctor? Multiple Organ Failure.
@brianphillips7696
@brianphillips7696 4 жыл бұрын
Marvin Enriquez groan.
@Excedrine
@Excedrine 4 жыл бұрын
Bud-Dum-Tiss.
@christelheadington1136
@christelheadington1136 4 жыл бұрын
Yikes! Thats so bad it's good.
@kbee225
@kbee225 4 жыл бұрын
Sadly that's not a diagnosis, it's a symptom.
@TheEccedentesiastX
@TheEccedentesiastX 4 жыл бұрын
@@christelheadington1136 *sad organ noises*
@dantheman2907
@dantheman2907 4 жыл бұрын
Medieval Churches Stayed Out In The Cold During Winter. This Is How Their Organs Shut Down.
@garbleduser
@garbleduser 4 жыл бұрын
The Elephant in the Room commented on a youtube video. This is the reply it got.
@JLocke573
@JLocke573 4 жыл бұрын
Get out of here Chubbyemu!
@FSM_Reviews
@FSM_Reviews 4 жыл бұрын
Cool. I used to watch him, when I was bored out of my mind. Lol.
@BigEvy
@BigEvy 4 жыл бұрын
A Garbled User replied to a comment. This is how he got a thumbs up.
@TheRunningLeopard
@TheRunningLeopard 4 жыл бұрын
chubbyemu would like to know your location.
@avariceseven9443
@avariceseven9443 4 жыл бұрын
Can you save those musical instruments if you find an organ donor? If yes, that would be music to their ears.
@urmorph
@urmorph 4 жыл бұрын
The 9th (frozen) circle of Hell is populated by organ punners. Beware!
@idndyzgaming
@idndyzgaming 4 жыл бұрын
If you wish to live then get out. - Lu Bu
@anarchyantz1564
@anarchyantz1564 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a fiddle the way you harp on about it.
@evilsharkey8954
@evilsharkey8954 4 жыл бұрын
I’d like to hear one on pyrite disease, a similar non-disease malady of an inorganic substance that spreads and self perpetuates like one.
@Warden409
@Warden409 4 жыл бұрын
I would like an episode on Von Hippel Lindau (VHL) to be made. Some fascinating diseases and conditions out there that people may benefit from knowing about.
@pierreuntel1970
@pierreuntel1970 4 жыл бұрын
Pi... pirate?
@JonatasMonte
@JonatasMonte 4 жыл бұрын
Like mold? It's fascinating to watch how it spreads and how it gets on every possible surface.
@evilsharkey8954
@evilsharkey8954 4 жыл бұрын
JonatasMonte, pyrite disease doesn’t spread like mold like the tin problem does. It’s a self perpetuating chemical reaction that causes the mineral pyrite, and more commonly marcasite, to disintegrate into a pile of acidic yellow or white dust. It can spread to other specimens, too. If you know anyone who’s into rocks and minerals, they should always give pyrite and marcasite specimens a sniff test before buying. If they smell sulfur, don’t buy it! It’s practically impossible to stop once it’s started.
@gearandalthefirst7027
@gearandalthefirst7027 4 жыл бұрын
@@pierreuntel1970 ??? you... you do realize pyrite is a thing, right?
@thomasparker5393
@thomasparker5393 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine turning up to hear Bach's trendy new fugue but as soon as he presses a key the thing honks and floppily dismantles itself
@Samhalta
@Samhalta 4 жыл бұрын
Bach wasn't born in medieval times, so that would have been difficult.
@thomasparker5393
@thomasparker5393 4 жыл бұрын
Dude, I'm a Bach fan. I know.
@tibbygaycat
@tibbygaycat 4 жыл бұрын
@@thomasparker5393 Yeah he wasn't alive! You wanna walk this statement bach? Fun is illegal!
@thomasparker5393
@thomasparker5393 4 жыл бұрын
@@tibbygaycat His sense of humour is clearly Baroque-n, he can't Handel it!
@LayneBenofsky
@LayneBenofsky 4 жыл бұрын
@@Samhalta But old organs could/would still be around in his day -- and likely in bad enough shape to fall apart playing a slappin' new toccata. Thomas' comment/joke stands. :)
@tedphillips2501
@tedphillips2501 4 жыл бұрын
That's why we don't use pure tin so much. We typically use an alloy of 60% lead 40% tin. Zinc is used for basses over 4' in length.
@windhelmguard5295
@windhelmguard5295 4 жыл бұрын
zinc became more common during the 30 years war, when tin pipes where often molten down to make musket balls.
@gidikalchhauser
@gidikalchhauser 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, zinc!
@keilanl1784
@keilanl1784 4 жыл бұрын
Does the lead content in the organs ever lead to health problems for manufacturers or players?
@mal2ksc
@mal2ksc 4 жыл бұрын
@Keilan L It might be a hazard for builders and tuners and other maintenance people, but I don't see why the person at the console would touch any of the pipes directly.
@timhuester7721
@timhuester7721 4 жыл бұрын
And lead is a lot cheaper too...
@WitchVulgar
@WitchVulgar 4 жыл бұрын
3:43 Mysteries become less mysterious once you start to solve them True wisdom from Stefan
@BlackEpyon
@BlackEpyon 4 жыл бұрын
That's how God became irrelevant. Once you understand a cause, you no longer need to attribute it to a deity.
@BlackEpyon
@BlackEpyon 4 жыл бұрын
@hawkturkey Religion does not necessarily furnish imperatives or hopes either, depending on your interpretation. Science and religion may be non-overlapping majesteria, but that does not mean that they do not conflict. The question of "why" assumes intent. First, you must determine the how, then you can ask whether or not "why" is even applicable. If there is no creator, then the question of "why" we are here is meaningless, and the question reverts to simply "how" we got here, not why. As to the "imperatives," or what I assume to be moral behaviours and obligations, you don't need religion for that.
@revolver265
@revolver265 4 жыл бұрын
Up there with Hank Green's "Murder is bad."
@LeafseasonMagbag
@LeafseasonMagbag 4 жыл бұрын
Some scientists think tin pest might have had a role in the downfall of Napoleon: his army’s uniforms all had tin buttons, the the Russian winter cold may have caused those to start becoming grey tin and fall apart.
@MrWombatty
@MrWombatty 4 жыл бұрын
In those days before zips it would've been rather chilly when their fly-buttons fell off!
@berthold64
@berthold64 4 жыл бұрын
it was napoleon incompetence not silly tin buttons
@LeafseasonMagbag
@LeafseasonMagbag 4 жыл бұрын
Bangbabangbabangbang I did actually look it up. I remember seeing this on a Discovery thing years ago. Sources I found said it did not happen, as the tin in Napoleon’s army buttons was too impure. They think the story starting because of a well-know outbreak of tin pest in buttons in a Russian warehouse before, combined with eye-witness reports of Napoleon’s army in rags and tatters. I’ll add all this to the main comment later
@mirjam3553
@mirjam3553 4 жыл бұрын
I scrolled down to see if somebody mentioned the rumor :)
@dingchat555
@dingchat555 4 жыл бұрын
So is this _organic_ or _inorganic_ chemistry??
@evilsharkey8954
@evilsharkey8954 4 жыл бұрын
You’re fired. Go. Now.
@CraftAero
@CraftAero 4 жыл бұрын
First one, then the other. 😉
@scibear9944
@scibear9944 4 жыл бұрын
Inorganic....no carbon involved😉
@dingchat555
@dingchat555 4 жыл бұрын
@@scibear9944 But it _is_ an organ! x)
@allangibson8494
@allangibson8494 4 жыл бұрын
@@dingchat555 It is in an organ.... Inorganic....
@CraftAero
@CraftAero 4 жыл бұрын
1:22 In metallurgical terms you'd say that white tin has a "body centered" lattice whereas grey tin is "face centered".
@HorzaPanda
@HorzaPanda 4 жыл бұрын
I was surprised when they didn't name the crystal structures. Body centred tetragonal, I got that one, and face centred diamond cubic, I thought it looked a bit like face centred cubic but not quite XD en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tin
@CraftAero
@CraftAero 4 жыл бұрын
@@existenceisillusion6528 I believe they should. Been a long time but that's what I was taught.
@olooloteholopatrolo
@olooloteholopatrolo 4 жыл бұрын
@@existenceisillusion6528 Sure, we do use those crystallographic terms to describe Bravais lattices.
@alexrodia553
@alexrodia553 4 жыл бұрын
Existenceisillusion yeah, we use those terms.
@bigsmall246
@bigsmall246 4 жыл бұрын
I hate it when people try to dumb stuff down so much that it no longer makes any sense. Face-centered and body-centered lattices are things that can literally be understood in 2 seconds when you Google it.
@NoahSpurrier
@NoahSpurrier 4 жыл бұрын
Tin pest. I love tin. It is a beautiful metal and it easy to work with. But tin pest is annoying. Lead and copper mixed in help.
@soylentgreenb
@soylentgreenb 4 жыл бұрын
Tin whiskers are worse. Really thin, long strands of metal that can short electronics.
@goodun2974
@goodun2974 4 жыл бұрын
@@soylentgreenb , lead-free solder used on circuit boards is highly prone to growing "whiskers" that can reach out and short circuit to adjacent solder connections. Lead-free Is horrible stuff that breaks down more easily than traditional tin lead solder, especially with repeated application of heat, so that the connections on the circuit board degrade very quickly if exposed to heat from a hot running power supply resistor or voltage regulator or large transistor. Had we stuck to using ordinary tin lead solder on electronical devices and circuit boards we would have fewer items failing prematurely and ending up in landfill. By the way, the Scott expedition to the South Pole that ended in disaster was partly undone by the use of nearly pure tin solder to seal canisters of fuel. The solder degraded from the extreme cold and all the fuel leaked out, and so the expedition team could not keep themselves warm or melt ice to make drinking water.
@deathsyth8888
@deathsyth8888 4 жыл бұрын
I guess you can call it... *Puts on sunglasses* Organ failure. YEEEEEEAAAAHHH!
@shorty1815
@shorty1815 4 жыл бұрын
Damn you
@ericklalande3280
@ericklalande3280 4 жыл бұрын
No
@amberblyledge7859
@amberblyledge7859 4 жыл бұрын
Most pipes, like Principals and Diapasons, the main "organ" sound, are made with a lead and tin alloy. When the metal is done solidifying, it creates a beautiful mottled effect. Please contact your local organists to learn more. We love teaching people about this dying art.
@verdatum
@verdatum 4 жыл бұрын
Nice. It took Codyslab on KZbin over a year to make grey tin in his freezer. That's a fantastic video that's worth watching. Modern pipe-organs are almost always made from tin-lead, thank goodness.
@rev.andyh.1082
@rev.andyh.1082 4 жыл бұрын
My church spent over a million dollars renovating our 200 century old pipe organ. I couldn’t understand how several of our pipes became so deformed. I actually thought it was some form of deliberate vandalism. THANK YOU, THANK YOU SO MUCH for explaining it to me. The international experts we hired to fix our organ could not explain it as well as you have here.
@Rouverius
@Rouverius 4 жыл бұрын
0:32 First, thank you for being diligent enough to provide sources. However, I can't find in any of these articles any reference in the include sources to churches assuming tin plague was the "work of the devil." After searching around, I found several sites that casually use this phrase without feeling the need to source a reference. However, what little I could find on medieval tin pipe organs, it seems that what was a higher concern was where the tin was sources (high quality "Cornwell Tin" vs. cheaper "German Tin" ). It seems that some organ builders would charge for using the more expensive Cornwell Tin but instead use the lowest quality German Tin and then pocket the money. So, in this case, I would agree that the eventual pipes failure would be caused by the root of all evil: the love of money ... or as you put it "the work of the devil."
@Steff2929again
@Steff2929again 4 жыл бұрын
Pure tin is never used in pipe organs nowadays. The the most common alloys are plain tin (75% tin, 25 % lead), used for bright clear sounds and for visible facade pipes, spotted metal (50% tin, 50 % lead), for most general purposes, common metal (30 % tin, 70%, lead) when a smoother warm sound is desired, and (rarely) Lead (94% lead, 6% antimony) for stopped pipes with a smooth sound. Sometimes copper and zinc is used. Copper works fine, zinc is quite useless but cheap. A lot of pipes are also made of wood, especially the really big ones. Organ building is a craft where science walk hand in hand with art.
@Beryllahawk
@Beryllahawk 4 жыл бұрын
Ah, medieval times, when even church music had to contend with tin-pest-uous challenges. I'll see myself out >.>
@Katzztar
@Katzztar 4 жыл бұрын
Ah no need to see yourself out. There are plenty of viewers making jokes and puns. At least yours didn't pander to the lowest denominator such as= "Did you hear about the streaker who ran into the church?" "They caught him by the organ."
@AmberAmber
@AmberAmber 4 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 both of you!!!
@dannyhussain5489
@dannyhussain5489 4 жыл бұрын
Nice
@xxinsufficiency
@xxinsufficiency 4 жыл бұрын
3:24 Huge missed pun potential right there
@danacoleman4007
@danacoleman4007 4 жыл бұрын
"It turns out a lot of mysteries aren't mysteries once they're solved." Gee whiz, SciShow that's very profound!
@utubepunk
@utubepunk 4 жыл бұрын
Why are people giving a thumbs up to this fallacious quote? What he really said: "It turns out a lot of mysteries aren't so mysterious once you've figured out a little bit of the science behind them."
@TheScreamingFrog916
@TheScreamingFrog916 4 жыл бұрын
A lot of religious explanations for things, seem like nonsense, once you've figured out a little bit of the science behind them. As science progresses, religion retreats, and that explains religions hostility toward science. For me, I continue to hope for a future, when all people will understand and accept, the value of being kind, fair, and just, to each other, without the need for religion, and the antagonism towards science that it promotes.
@David_T
@David_T 4 жыл бұрын
After all these years I thought Shakespeare was writing about the "Tempest" when it was all really about alchemy of the "Tin Pest".
@organgrinder506
@organgrinder506 4 жыл бұрын
Then, after folks began to mix in lead to make organ pipes, there was the issue of lead corrosion. Dietrich Buxtehude, that great master of the North German Baroque, recorded issues with rats eating his organ pipes. The lead oxidized into "lead sugar," and the rats literally ate that stuff up.
@goodun2974
@goodun2974 4 жыл бұрын
According to "The Disappearing Spoon", a book about the scientific beginnings of the periodic table of elements and the scientists and personalities behind it, the failure of the Scott expedition to the South Pole was due in no small part to the canisters of fuel that leaked when their nearly pure tin-solder joints degraded and came apart in the extreme cold. Without that fuel, the team was unable to keep themselves warm or melt snow and ice to make drinking water.
@samhansen9771
@samhansen9771 4 жыл бұрын
So what you're saying is that the tin was sick with... _the cold_
@ValeriePallaoro
@ValeriePallaoro 4 жыл бұрын
Oh, the irony ... damn! I'll see myself out.
@muninrob
@muninrob 4 жыл бұрын
Is tin-pest the same as the tin-whiskers that grow off of electronics using really old solder?
@rivitraven
@rivitraven 4 жыл бұрын
No
@ezion67
@ezion67 4 жыл бұрын
Not exactly, tin-whiskers can form at temperatures above 0, it's a different process, don't know the details. However it is not "really old" solders where they form a problem. When lead in solder was banned in the early 2000s, the industry was not ready. The solders they initially switched to turned out to grow whiskers. In combination with the really small distance between the connections on modern components the whiskers caused al kinds of short-circuit mayhem. As a result the use of leaded solder was again allowed in quite a few applications, (auto-motive, medical, ...) well for a while that is. It took more than a year before a usable alternative solder was found.
@michaelbuckers
@michaelbuckers 4 жыл бұрын
@@ezion67 " " "Usable" " " yeah it's not terrible but it's nowhere near reliable enough. We still use lead-tin alloy for soldering in important applications such as aeronautical and automotive, only non-important electronics gets to use lead-free tin.
@mcgrawnelson4722
@mcgrawnelson4722 4 жыл бұрын
@@ezion67 at least in the US lead in solder isnt really banned at all. when companies make circuit boards and such in mass processes they use lead free, but in any repair application thats being done by an actual human nearly everyone uses classic tin/lead solder. its just better in almost every way from the lead free stuff; cheaper, easier to use, more flexable, lower melting point etc. lead really isnt that dangerous either, it doesnt get into the air when heated so the only danger is if you dont wash your hands. the only people that use lead free are companies with environment incentives against using things like lead.
@goodun2974
@goodun2974 4 жыл бұрын
@@mcgrawnelson4722 , I work for a stereo repair shop. We use Kester tin-lead solder with 2% silver. Awesome stuff! I agree 100% with your comments about lead free solder; even the best of it pretty much sucks. It definitely does not hold up well long-term for soldering any components that generate heat such as power supply resistors or voltage regulators, the solder gets grainy and breaks down surprisingly quickly. Plus, the organic fluxes used as part of the core of lead free solder are toxic, they burn your throat if you inhale them, and they will corrode the circuit board at some later point in time if you don't remove all traces of it.
@sinisterminister6478
@sinisterminister6478 4 жыл бұрын
My biggest question is why do people down vote videos like these? Just one of pesky little mysteries we will never solve?
@garethbaus5471
@garethbaus5471 4 жыл бұрын
I think some people down vote videos without watching them if it is an accidental click.
@ianmacfarlane1241
@ianmacfarlane1241 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know if all of the dislikes are legit. I've seen many videos with, I suppose you'd say inoffensive, benign content - like this, get a number of dislikes, and I'm perplexed as to why it would be the case. So I decided that I don't know if I actually believe it. That said, I can think of at least two content providers that I regularly watch who make a point of saying, "if you don't like the content, then hit the dislike button - on the KZbin algorithm it all counts as interaction." This did initially surprise me, but I suppose that it is a form of interaction. That said, I've 'disliked' less than half a dozen videos in all of the time I've watched KZbin. I'd prefer to offer constructive criticism in a comment - usually in a polite, considered manner, but if I think that the content provider is 'taking the piss' , with clickbait or lazy, repetitive content I've been known to be a bit more direct. Comments count as interaction too. Anyway, that's my thoughts on dislikes.
@sinisterminister6478
@sinisterminister6478 4 жыл бұрын
I guess there are as many reasons as down votes.
@IJustWantToUseMyName
@IJustWantToUseMyName 4 жыл бұрын
I have a neurological problem that causes spasms in my fingers and have accidentally disliked some videos and comments because my finger jerked at the wrong time. I always click again to remove the dislike, but I sometimes wonder if it still shows them. I always feel bad about it.
@pauldeddens5349
@pauldeddens5349 4 жыл бұрын
Probably just bots or angry science deniers that think it _is_ the work of the devil that tin organs did this
@lakrids-pibe
@lakrids-pibe 4 жыл бұрын
Set organ phases to "stun"
@AllonKirtchik
@AllonKirtchik 4 жыл бұрын
Lakrids Pibe Set organ phases to stannum
@lakrids-pibe
@lakrids-pibe 4 жыл бұрын
Star Trek. Keep your phasers on stun. And stay calm. I don't want anyone getting nervous and shooting one of us by mistake."
@richardholmquist7316
@richardholmquist7316 4 жыл бұрын
Actually it does NOT matter if organ pipes are of tin, lead or whatever material if they are stiff enough not to be set into vibration by the air inside of them - and clearly, a metal pipe wall has to be pretty thin to be set into motion by air. Yet pipes with such thin walls were built, especially in the pre - industrial era when metal was very expensive. Note: the energy setting the walls into vibration comes from the vibrating air, hence energy is subtracted from the sound. Wall vibration acts a bit like a trumpet mute, coloring the sound by attenuating its energy. Thin lead pipes soak up energy from all parts of the audible frequency range, but tin takes energy from the bass range and leaves the high frequency components of the sound unaffected. That's why thin tin pipe walls yield a brighter sound - but the walls must be thin or this effect doesn't happen. Also, the idea that alloying lead or antimony with tin prevents tin pest has been challenged in experiments done by the organ builders Eckert and Laukhuff (Organ builders are about the only people doing scientific experiments on tin and lead alloys these days since almost no one else uses them for anything). Eckert's work, and Laukhuff's as well, was reported by the International Society of Organbuilders. That's all I remember.
@waterunderthebridge7950
@waterunderthebridge7950 4 жыл бұрын
What irony to think that ppl thought the tin pest was due to the devil when burning it with literal fire would’ve halted the transition between the phases
@soylentgreenb
@soylentgreenb 4 жыл бұрын
Hell was not always thought of as a hot place.
@sbrodie99
@sbrodie99 4 жыл бұрын
So cool! I’m taking a class called Music and It’s Instruments and this is a great aspect of organology to learn about 😊
@JustADioWhosAHeroForFun
@JustADioWhosAHeroForFun 4 жыл бұрын
So does the disease turn you into a Piano?
@flaparoundfpv8632
@flaparoundfpv8632 4 жыл бұрын
Wow. The quantity of your videos is truly great.
@RobertOrgRobert
@RobertOrgRobert 4 жыл бұрын
The Oliver Cromwell disease also destroyed a lot of church organs
@echodelta9
@echodelta9 4 жыл бұрын
They would raid the church and rid it of the devil's instrument parading down the street tooting on pipes and banging pipes and statuary together.
@namelessone3339
@namelessone3339 4 жыл бұрын
How about a follow-up on the failure of spotted metal organ pipes from the mid-20th century?
@BrandonRalstonUSA
@BrandonRalstonUSA 4 жыл бұрын
Never thought I’d ever be actually glad to learn new info concerning tin until today.
@fakjbf3129
@fakjbf3129 4 жыл бұрын
I remember reading a theory that one of the reasons Napoleon's invasion of Russia failed was that the buttons on his soldier's uniforms turned to grey tin and broke apart, making them more vulnerable to the cold than they would have been otherwise.
@craigh5236
@craigh5236 4 жыл бұрын
I'd be interested to know if the sound vibration helped to accelerate the process
@Adaginy
@Adaginy 4 жыл бұрын
Today I am grateful that I live in the modern days when I never have to worry about it being below freezing in a church or any other in-use building.
@JustGrowingUp84
@JustGrowingUp84 4 жыл бұрын
The Spanish Inquisition!
@nickverbree
@nickverbree 4 жыл бұрын
Man, I really didn't expect that
@513morris
@513morris 4 жыл бұрын
* The Lattice Tinpestition
@secretscipio
@secretscipio 4 жыл бұрын
Unexpected as always
@urmorph
@urmorph 4 жыл бұрын
Catherine the Great learned this the hard way. Most church interiors in Western Europe, however, did not (often) get cold enough. It wasn't an epidemic!
@SotraEngine4
@SotraEngine4 4 жыл бұрын
It also happens to iron (which is the main part of many steels) when it is heated up to a high enough temperature (around a 500 degrees C if I remember correctly). When this happen, the iron gets properties that are more like pure aluminium or gold - weaker and more malleable. This is why blacksmiths exists and why steel buildings can collapse during a fire.
@rikosaikawa9024
@rikosaikawa9024 4 жыл бұрын
Lurch never let his pipes get cold
@Nmethyltransferase
@Nmethyltransferase 4 жыл бұрын
3:25 Now, if we can only stop people from licking the organ pipes, we'll be all set!
@sarephbtmistari8909
@sarephbtmistari8909 4 жыл бұрын
It's always nice to learn something new!
@YeenMage
@YeenMage 4 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile, in Orthodox Christianity of the Eastern Roman Empire: What organ? (i.e. musical instruments are traditionally not used for worship in Eastern Christianity)
@nathanokun8801
@nathanokun8801 4 жыл бұрын
Iron does the same thing, which is why steel is possible. Iron only does it at an orange-hot temperature, hence smelting and forging and heat-treatment effects when carbon and other alloy elements are added.
@VerkoAviarhidea
@VerkoAviarhidea 4 жыл бұрын
What is it with diseases and the xx20 years
@foxpurrincess3209
@foxpurrincess3209 4 жыл бұрын
Saw the title, thought "Oh, like tin pest!"
@andreweden9405
@andreweden9405 4 жыл бұрын
I suppose this was suggested to me, as the Algorithms must know that I've been studying and playing a lot of medieval organ music lately. My understanding is that many of the earliest medieval organ pipes were of all-lead construction. I could be wrong though, or perhaps that's just in regards to instruments of the "Dark Ages", and not the High, and Late Middle Ages...
@LarsUelf
@LarsUelf 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, I'm an organ builder. Older organ pipes typically do contain a lot more lead than modern pipes. A lot of people tried recreating those old organs and their distinctive charm by going back to making pipes with a higher amount of lead. They soon found out that after a couple of years, the pipes had started to collapse. The problem was that modern lead was 'too pure'. Back in the day there were a lot of impurities in the lead, making it more stable. When you work with older pipes you sometimes have to be really careful when handling them. They're so soft that it feels like the pipe is already bending just by you looking at it
@andreweden9405
@andreweden9405 4 жыл бұрын
@@LarsUelf , Thank you for the reply! That's interesting to learn.
@ItsCliffy
@ItsCliffy 4 жыл бұрын
So does it go back to normal when the weather gets warm again? But stuck in the cracked and broken form it took ?
@garethdean6382
@garethdean6382 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, it reverts, but the fractures and cracks can't be undone. It's like refreezing a puddle of water, it won't reform the icecube.
@mojosbigsticks
@mojosbigsticks 4 жыл бұрын
'Napoleon's Buttons' may be an urban legend, but it makes a better story than organ pipes
@lazytommy0
@lazytommy0 4 жыл бұрын
I imagine that the slow vibration process was quickened by playing said organs
@darksensei56
@darksensei56 4 жыл бұрын
Tin Organ: This isn't even my final form.
@siyacer
@siyacer 4 жыл бұрын
Hope they didn't experience total organ failure
@zilvercederbom
@zilvercederbom 3 жыл бұрын
I knew cold temperatures could cause organ failure, but this is ridiculous!
@stanburton6224
@stanburton6224 4 жыл бұрын
This is also a big reason why lead free solder for electronics is such a BAD idea. Tin based solder also forms tin whiskers over time too that can over time short out connections. The first satellites were assembled with "high temp" solder (essentially pure tin) and they thermal cycling between day and night caused the whiskers to grow very quickly leading to early failure. Also the higher melting point made making good connections more difficult and lead to more thermal damage to solid state electronics. That is why most solder was a 60/40 (or 63/37) tin/lead alloy going forward.
@kimberly25christinesmith72
@kimberly25christinesmith72 4 жыл бұрын
Great timing
@seangallagher1947
@seangallagher1947 3 жыл бұрын
Isn’t it similar to rust with iron?
@LupinoArts
@LupinoArts 4 жыл бұрын
is this process reversible? I.e. can gray tin become white tin again once the temperature raises?
@norbertbowering3365
@norbertbowering3365 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, indeed. But it will stay brittle.
@hansisbrucker813
@hansisbrucker813 4 жыл бұрын
Does gray tin have practical applications?
@norbertbowering3365
@norbertbowering3365 4 жыл бұрын
For example, cleaning optics from tin drop contamination
@braydenrudin7104
@braydenrudin7104 4 жыл бұрын
3:22 Very funny SciShow, very funny...
@JonatasMonte
@JonatasMonte 4 жыл бұрын
The cold was too much to keep the pipes hard...
@TheAgamemnon911
@TheAgamemnon911 4 жыл бұрын
The difference is, the material still expanded.
@herbderbler1585
@herbderbler1585 4 жыл бұрын
So you're saying the tin atoms became disorganized?
@amirhamzahsarihan8229
@amirhamzahsarihan8229 4 жыл бұрын
Hi science show, i have a question, why Khatulistiwa countries do not get snow at night even they are the most far from sun at night?
@6Fiona6_P_6
@6Fiona6_P_6 4 жыл бұрын
What did one organist say to the other organist? 'This organ sounds a bit tinny to me'........ 🎼🎶⚛️☮️🎵
@meaigs
@meaigs 4 жыл бұрын
Does playing the organ (and therefore vibrating the pipes) increase the risk?
@MattJasa
@MattJasa 4 жыл бұрын
How weird! I always thought Evil was in Medieval so when I went to google dictionary to have it (Voice it to me) it sounds exactly like Stefan!! Stefan are you working for google dictionary now?
@huldu
@huldu 4 жыл бұрын
I liked the theory that it was the devil causing it more.
@HaydenX
@HaydenX 4 жыл бұрын
"Doctor! My organ has turned grey and brittle!"
@Kreln1221
@Kreln1221 4 жыл бұрын
*I wonder if this is applicable to bell bronze, which is traditionally comprised of 80% copper and 20% tin... This traditional bell bronze alloy is not only used for bells, but also professional grade musical cymbals...*
@Empire526
@Empire526 4 жыл бұрын
My church's organ is extremely out of tune and the top two manuals are about a half step offset from the rest of the organ... No one's willing to fix it... Also, my dad's the organist, that's how I know these things...
@eatyoursoulthenumnums8183
@eatyoursoulthenumnums8183 4 жыл бұрын
THIS ISN'T EVEN MY FINAL FORM.
@r3ynolds_ow581
@r3ynolds_ow581 4 жыл бұрын
3:23 He didn't use the "re-ORGAN-ize" pun there. Don't know if I'm disappointed or not.
@MegaAstroFan18
@MegaAstroFan18 4 жыл бұрын
Heh, reORGANize.
@jennieivins
@jennieivins 4 жыл бұрын
Another cool thing I didn't know, I didn't know.
@massimookissed1023
@massimookissed1023 4 жыл бұрын
They shoulda hired a 'pewter programmer.
@christelheadington1136
@christelheadington1136 4 жыл бұрын
All will be well come pewter.
@damonedwards1544
@damonedwards1544 4 жыл бұрын
@@christelheadington1136 Christel, lattice stop making these terrible puns.
@magana559
@magana559 4 жыл бұрын
Cody's Lab has a video on this.
@limiv5272
@limiv5272 4 жыл бұрын
If you already have a pure tin organ, can't you just heat the grey spots until they turn into white tin again?
@garethdean6382
@garethdean6382 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, if you know what's going on Sadly the points remain weak due to faults introduced during the change, and possibly more likely to reform grey tin when the temperature drops once again.
@limiv5272
@limiv5272 4 жыл бұрын
@@garethdean6382 Interesting, thanks
@lyndsaybrown8471
@lyndsaybrown8471 4 жыл бұрын
All the talk about tin not having the energy made me feel bad for tin. Even if it is a murderer.
@contrarianduude3463
@contrarianduude3463 4 жыл бұрын
So this is what happened to my tin-foil hat? Dam......
@TheSimArchitect
@TheSimArchitect 4 жыл бұрын
No more tin cans in the fridge or basement storage!!!
@OtakuUnitedStudio
@OtakuUnitedStudio 4 жыл бұрын
"Tin" cans have been made out of food-grade steel since the 60's.
@TheSimArchitect
@TheSimArchitect 4 жыл бұрын
@@OtakuUnitedStudio Bad joke, sorry.
@athenatanyimin4035
@athenatanyimin4035 4 жыл бұрын
Would grey tin turn back to white tin when the temperature goes up again?
@norbertbowering3365
@norbertbowering3365 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, if you heat it to above, say, 30 degrees Centigrade. But it will stay brittle.
@Xaiff
@Xaiff 4 жыл бұрын
Just adding a small amount of other metals, like... what? Excuse me? 🤣
@nokiot9
@nokiot9 4 жыл бұрын
Why didn’t you go into possible catalysts? Acidic finger prints maybe?
@Wombattlr
@Wombattlr 4 жыл бұрын
Happy Australia Day!
@Wombattlr
@Wombattlr 4 жыл бұрын
@@mikefrommiami not yet, mate. But I hear that atleast 400 people will eat pizza for breakfast over in New York. Creepy.
@christelheadington1136
@christelheadington1136 4 жыл бұрын
@@Wombattlr -Most likely, pizza left over from the previous night.
@damonedwards1544
@damonedwards1544 4 жыл бұрын
Wasn't a phase transition like this also responsible for making the Titanic's hull more brittle in the icy water?
@koharumi1
@koharumi1 4 жыл бұрын
Is there one about tin whiskers?
@erzsblasfantaven3334
@erzsblasfantaven3334 4 жыл бұрын
I bet they played some *sick* tunes
@purplealice
@purplealice 4 жыл бұрын
So an average medieval winter would be cold enough to make the tin organ pipes fail. (Is there anything that happens to tin when it gets too warm - I mean other than melting, of course.)
@kmart1396
@kmart1396 4 жыл бұрын
Okay but like why are severely interesting things like this in science somehow able to also be like "yeah i could see an Organ getting sick/diseased in some fantasy D&D settings", like who made earth? why is it like this?, i just wanna talk
@fuferito
@fuferito 3 жыл бұрын
Tin pipes on your organ falling apart due to temperature? No worries. They'll _re-organize_ in no time.
@ayawoke9906
@ayawoke9906 3 жыл бұрын
I read they used to be harmonic healing centers for the body, not actually churches...
@tmn1231
@tmn1231 4 жыл бұрын
A tin pest must be just that. A tin pest must be just that.
@ianmacfarlane1241
@ianmacfarlane1241 4 жыл бұрын
My organ turned grey and fell apart.
@dingchat555
@dingchat555 4 жыл бұрын
Please see a doctor!
@christelheadington1136
@christelheadington1136 4 жыл бұрын
@@dingchat555- -Too late.
@TheSeaofScience
@TheSeaofScience 4 жыл бұрын
Is this why organs were/are kept in upper levels of the building?
@LarsUelf
@LarsUelf 4 жыл бұрын
That is mostly due to sound projection and space requirements. Building an organ on a separate platform above the main entrance for example saves a lot of space.
@Blue-Maned_Hawk
@Blue-Maned_Hawk 4 жыл бұрын
This is also the reason why coins made of tin are so uncommon,
@borttorbbq2556
@borttorbbq2556 4 жыл бұрын
I want to know the chemical propertys of grey tin
@sac3528
@sac3528 4 жыл бұрын
This led to Napoleon's defeat in the Russian winter. The buttons on his men's clothes were made of tin, and before long, they were marching in rags.
@naota3k
@naota3k 4 жыл бұрын
I do like me some Stefan Chin.
@olalustig5397
@olalustig5397 4 жыл бұрын
RE-ORGANIZE XD
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