The DISGUSTING Relationship Between This Son and his Father | Short Film Reaction

[@shooshiMooshi]

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[@Doorslover343]

Second Reply! Its funny how you say "Just Kill him" It's so Hilarious 😂 I hate the fact The son acts like the dad 😭

[@des.mezzzz]

3:30 How is that weird?? 💀

[@Doorslover343]

@@des.mezzzz Am Not saying its Werid since when

[@des.mezzzz]

@@Doorslover343 I wasn’t saying you were?

[@Doorslover343]

@@des.mezzzz then why did You reply to me

[@silviaeaber]

Rape is not just a matter of “overpowering”, it’s also manipulation and coercion

[@shooshiMooshi]

true but also…what kind of leverage would the kid have during high school when their “special” relationship started? like to be able to manipulate the father? no way the dad was drunk AT A HIGH SCHOOL PROM right? so being under the influence is out of the question most likely. dad is POSSIBLY also in the wrong for however it started but that's where he then 100% becomes a victim of his son

[@silviaeaber]

@@shooshiMooshiSince the context is vague I guess we can only assume

[@shooshiMooshi]

true true

[@MillerTheMagicalBoyDarkPrince]

I like it

[@SaraVeryLittleBean_456]

The thing that got me lagging was when he prayed to Jesus and I was closing my eyes to lol 😂

[@honeybunny244]

From what I understand, the dad was in shock when it happened. The son forced himself onto his own dad cuz it seemed he could easily overpower his own father, so he basically gr@ped him. I think the dad wasn't even aware that his son was in love with him or know that his son lusted after him. He didn't even see the picture at the beginning if I remember correctly. A lot of SA victims enter in a state of shock when they're forced to do something and you don't even react. It's like when somebody brings up the argument: "They didn't say no" Just because they didn't say no doesn't mean it's a yes. Imagine picking your son up from a prom night and he suddenly forces himself upon you, overpowering you and leaving you with such harsh physical and emotional scars. Or worse, he basically manipulates you and coerced you into doing it. For all we know, the son probably threatened him with saying that he could tell everyone that his father touched him inappropriately and nobody would believe him to be innocent, but that's just my theory. You'd also be in a state of shock. And the fact that the son said: "something that you started." I don't think the dad started it. He was completely paralyzed in fear and entered in a panicked state whenever he heard his son coming near his office. Nobody and nothing can prepare you for that kind of situation. How we think we would react is not exactly how we would react. You have to go through the shock, the grief, the mourning of that relationship, the confusion and the feeling of being completely violated by your OWN SON. The son is basically blaming him for his own twisted love when the dad was talking about the masturbation, that it was normal for boys his age and that his hormones were basically going haywire. The son misunderstood that and took it in a literal way, probably thinking that his dad went through the same thing, which maybe caused him to be more bold. The dad was innocent, imo. He went through a rollercoaster of emotions all because of a simple misunderstanding and paid the price for it.

[@shooshiMooshi]

yeah that’s the thing. none of us know exactly what happened on the night of prom or whenever they first “did it”. maybe the dad was coerced or manipulated (probably the most likely). but yeah we don’t know 100%. all we can do is speculate. if a 25 year old guy had intercourse with a 16-18 year old girl and then he says that she forced herself on him. i’m obviously still starting off on the 25 year olds side, but more information is needed just to be safe. we’d all need to know information like, was the younger person stronger than them, did they blackmail, manipulate etc. that specific night was left out of this movie unfortunately :/. but yeah after that night, it’s no longer a mystery that the dad is 100% innocent

[@Anomalousperson000]

My mother said that if I stay silent in a yes or no question then it means yes. But it only applied to me.

[@NaomiSlayer-rp4zd]

Why and I mean why did first saw you wrote a WHOLE story and i started to cry like- I didn't even read it at all😶

[@fazzmin]

I feel like the son saying he started it was from the masturbation scene. “Something you embraced” could be the fact the dad said it was normal to do what the son was doing at a young age. I’ll always stick by this tbh.

[@honeybunny244]

@@fazzmin that is a very good point.

[@aeliasmushroom]

Im glad that you’re taking the moment to clarify that you are on the victims side, because your first impression reactions could be why men dont come out about their stories

[@shooshiMooshi]

no yeah i need to make clear that EVERYTHING IM SAYING OR SPECULATING is on a MICRO scale. aka i’m focusing on only this video/film/scenario. i’m not speaking on a MACRO scale, aka ALL male victims of SA. i’ve always believed that men can get SA’d too. i just raised questions about the first night they EVER had sexual contact which was when the son was possibly 16-18 years of age. asking questions doesn’t mean you’re doubting or blaming :). just like how you’d ask questions if it came out that a 25 year old guy had intercourse with a 16-18 year old girl and then he says that she forced herself on him. i’m obviously still starting off on the 25 year olds side, but more information is needed just to be safe. information like was the younger person stronger than them? Did they blackmail or manipulate etc? that specific night was left out of this movie unfortunately :/. but yeah after that night, it’s no longer a mystery that the dad is 100% without a doubt innocent also yeah some of my jokes were tone deaf. when i said things like “grow a pair and beat him up/stop him”, i’m not saying that to ALL MALE VICTIMS IN *REAL LIFE*. i basically said that more so to bully that monster of a son and pray for his downfall with chat. i wanted the son to face consequences sooo bad. i have a habit of getting too hyper on stream because i want to entertain y’all, but i need to balance wanting to be an entertainer, with being mindful. because yeah my ACTUAL understanding and analysis of the video was ALWAYS that the dad is the victim and was simply afraid of his abuser and of public perception which is what happens to irl victims! male or female

[@djarin-ares]

No replies? Only the creator?

[@w0rmbr41nzz]

@@djarin-ares ikr 💀💀

[@djarin-ares]

@@w0rmbr41nzz lol

[@yjohnson3678]

Yeah it was definitely bothering me when shooshi was saying “yeah just stop him” when it was clear that it was grape and shooshi himself even mentioned it being grape. Then the chat jumps in “just say no”. I know he clarified it which is great but it made me bothered as hell the whole time, because I feel it would’ve been treated differently had it been a mother and not a father…

[@GuidedByGood]

Imagine if you and your dad watched this short film together thinking it was gonna be a heartfelt drama or something💀💀💀

[@TaylorNation126]

Nah cause they would have stopped in the first 4 seconds

[@Suizidcore]

He would’ve obviously read the script

[@whknws9595]

the title absolutely could also be the name of a comedy 💀

[@GuidedByGood]

@@TaylorNation126 fr

[@lizzymarlow5208]

why....

[@StupidMonkeys-w3p]

"Abuse has no gender.." -My Mother

[@CLOWN_PRINCE1939]

Wise words from your wise mother :)

[@giopotatoz]

Amazing...just PURE AMAZING

[@H1GH_M3PH0NEZ]

I'm dyslexic so it took me a whileboto write thus and read ths..

[@biggestreigenhater]

@@CLOWN_PRINCE1939hazbin hotel fan spotted in the wild

[@Jsloreboy]

@@H1GH_M3PH0NEZ nice pfp 😎🔥

[@lmjustsomeone7694]

The father IS the victim and the son is the manipulator. This is why male victims feel scared to speak up

[@S3LLL]

😨

[@ookipuki]

I agree. Well, They are both male. As a female who was r*ped by her younger sib. I can say the age definitely makes it scary to speak up... but we all have reasons for not speaking up..and the problem is victim blaming . It's disgusting

[@kei_thepotata]

@@ookipukiI’m so sorry that happened to u I rlly hope ur okay now

[@fish-r7k]

FR. I’ve been in smth similar from this my younger friend r4ped me when I wasn only 10. I couldn’t speak up from that. It left me scared. I had my own reason to speak up

[@kei_thepotata]

@@fish-r7k I’m sorry that happened to you I hope ur alright now

[@JennyT-jf4ig]

Its so sad seeing the dads personality go from optimistic happy and supportive, then see him become so drained, and sad :(

[@oynx_kk]

fr:(

[@ree3197]

Maybe the dad was a victim of abuse when he was a child.. and he went back into that zombie-like complacent zone when his son started abusing him also? He clearly felt guilty!

[@Losttvremote]

⁠@@ree3197the fact he got abused by his own son is crazy 😭😭

[@bambinazo123]

Blud got disgusted so much he started praying in spanish💀

[@localcinephile-f24]

358 likes and no comment? Let me just change that

[@SillyKingsley]

DjLovesTurbo would probably do the same thing😭🙏

[@TheSwissRollPastry]

HOLA JESÚS PELEA SE BLESS MEJOR

[@TheSwissRollPastry]

Also timestamp?

[@cesarvillena2894]

I speak spanish (i'm peruvian) and i understand that 😂😂😂😂😂 (i'm sorry if my English isn't good)

[@Tinabobinna]

Goodbye, everyone. I'll remember you all in therapy.

[@grapesauce5091]

I hope i get amnesia so i can forget this

[@anniesolomon4876]

​@@grapesauce5091Same like wtf did I watch 💀

[@user-dv2mn3cu4x]

Dude, this shit would cause your therapist to need a therapist, and so on and so forth until the most powerful therapist needs a therapist

[@gracejohnson789]

At this point we need to all meet up and go see a freaking special kind of therapist because this has caused us all some severe trauma...Good Lord almighty what have I watched!!!!!

[@Minnie-hg9wi]

Fr bro I was just having a peaceful day what in the sweet home Alabama did I just watch 😭

[@DragunKing]

Ok. This 'it was the dads fault' Is making me feel gross. It is 100% possible for someone younger to assault someone older. The son is younger and possibly stronger, also he sounds very experienced in manipulating. He have manipulated his father/guilt tripped or in worse case straight up assaulted his father then guilttripped him saying its his fault. This can happen irl too. Im pretty sure they're are cases similar where someone younger is doing this.

[@Ilovemeat-ur7ml]

Exactly waaay to many people victim blaming in the comments

[@Alxsstarr]

literally. And it isnt that easy to tell people about this. The dad cant just punish his son and move on, hes obviously scared of him. Throughout the movie he avoids his son, and he is obviously in too much shock to just do that.

[@aardvarkamelia]

yrah I'm pretty sure the son saying the dad started it came off as manipulating to me

[@melodyscorpion6606]

if anybody blames the dad in this situation theyre probably apologists of incest just gonna say that.

[@LilLadyAy]

Yes! I have heard cases of child on parent DV, it's clearly an awkward position to be in, like where do you start in calling your offspring out as an abuser? How and when could this have begun is something to dwell on. Do you keep it to yourself to not? You will compromise your child and upset other family if you don't keep quiet, or do you speak and who do you reach out to? No matter what the family is ruined, the fault lies with the abuser who is all in it for themselves but the victim will always have to answer for it. People exploit others natures, this movie is a clear case of that. This dad was sweet natured, IRL I have a friend who was in a DV relationship with a man (before we met) who come across as the nicer one in the relationship because she was a loudmouth tomboy who used to fight a lot when she was a kid, he was beating her and she would lie and say she was injured in accidents, when she did speak out people bought his argument of self defense.

[@byennbye]

"it's the dad's fault" is crazy this is why male sa victims feel scared to speak up never victim blame 🤦🏿

[@niggawtf123]

if a 6 year old comes up to you and grabs your pecker and you dont slap that kid and call the parents YOURE THE PROBLEM 🤮 Its the adults FAULT unless they are wheelchair bound or old as fuck if they continue to let it happen. but when your kid is 20 and youre 40 and he touches you and you dont say no youre clealy just as deranged as the son 🤮 kids dont know better than adults 🤡 both the kid and the dad are not victims other than victims of their own sick desires 🤮🤮🤮 "male sa victims dont speak up cause of this" BULLSHIT. NOT WHEN THE PERP IS A DAMN CHILD 🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@cowuie]

@@nvjhknbhjnjv6627that doesnt matter because theres actually people who think that way. when have you ever seen a man come forward with sa, and if they have, when have you ever seen them be taken seriously??? name at least three

[@jhsemoxitha3821]

​@@nvjhknbhjnjv6627 it is that serious. This shit actually happens to resl life people. This film wasn't unrealistic and that's what makes it scarier

[@hazel_mvedits9082]

Mostly came from men, men will never gonna solve their own problems, women has been always confront about his issues, fked society fills of these types of men 😊

[@Chrisoshy]

true

[@ireneconti4353]

7:26 It's called freezing. Unfortunately it's common amongst victims of sexual assalt. You are so scared that you cannot move, but that doesn't mean that you are giving your consent.

[@yuki982]

Yup the three F’s. Fight, flight, or freeze

[@meisucksatlife8837]

​@@yuki982actually, there's another f! it's called fawn. fawning is when you're basically trying to please your abuser in hopes they will stop (i think, i'm sorry if i got it wrong.)

[@user-me-0001]

Remember. The SA victim is too much in shock to do anything when being SA'd. NEVER BLAME THE VICTIM GUYS🧏🏽‍♀️

[@pumpkinpiie486]

Why bro mogging people

[@user-me-0001]

​@@pumpkinpiie486 🤫🧏🏽‍♀️

[@user-me-0001]

​@@pumpkinpiie486🤫🧏🏽‍♀️

[@eyese]

@@pumpkinpiie486🤫🧏🏾‍♂️

[@MyNvtsTasteGreat]

@@pumpkinpiie486 🤫🧏

[@justanomorifan3059]

Its sad how no matter how perfect someones life is, they can still turn out evil.

[@shooshiMooshi]

yeah honestly so tragic. it reminds me of this film “we need to talk about kevin” where the kid grows up to kill people in school but like…he was raised kinda normally? makes you wonder if some people are just born evil

[@justanomorifan3059]

@@shooshiMooshi honestly some people just are. No matter how good their parents are, they can still be evil. I feel like it may just be genetics or something. He seems rich and has two loving parent, and a pretty good social life. He was raised better than normally.

[@Goldfish728]

ok obviously

[@Etherealzyo]

Yea

[@jkterjters]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@shooshiMooshiI think it’s kinda like cancer. Some wires that shouldn’t be crossed in the brain are crossed and it spirals out of control without intervention.

[@Yushkakaka]

This movie is a great exemple of the fact that sexual abuse and rape can go to both women and men. And also young and old people. Correct me if I’m wrong, but the son literally forced himself upon his own father. Which sticks to the topic of the movie; which is anything related to sexual interactions. The son was in no right, whatsoever, to make his own dad to do something he doesn’t want to. To any victims of SA, speak up. You’re not alone.

[@Snickerskittle]

What is it called

[@NALI_POSTS]

I’m a SA victim but I’m scared to tell my family because it happened when I was 8.. I’m 14 now and I don’t think anyone would believe me

[@Freddyfazebear1956]

@@NALI_POSTSI believe you it’s ok I had friends of my who been in abuse relationships and her name is Micki and she told me some stories that happened between her and twin sister Maya and after hearing that from her I was so scared for her and worried for her. Ps I am not doing this for likes I am doing this because I am telling y’all the truth that this can happen to anyone in life.

[@FlamyAndBuds]

​@@NALI_POSTS don't worry..we all believe you and we're here for you. im sorry that happened to you

[@allytay1868]

I interpreted it as switching the roles of rapists to catch the audiences attention and throw them off, to make them truly disgusted because they’re not used to seeing this switch, However I still think it has that father raping son is bad message but like in a way of like ‘If him doing it to him is bad then so is him to him’

[@fallenangel_899]

The son blaming the dad on why he is the way he is, is how abusers manipulate their victims into STAYING QUIET

[@I_LIKE_BURNT_CHIPS]

😔and this is absolutely TRUE.

[@merumeru_]

Despite this being absolutely sickening, its a good short movie with the way it tells people that sometimes age has nothing to do when it comes to abuse. This happens in real life cases aswell, or in the internet, people will always blame the older person in scenarios like this. While this might be true at most times, its still a blind assumption. There are evil kids in this world. There are naive adults. Minors are very capable of manipulating adults, even their own parents or relatives. This is something that should be seen and understood

[@blossxma]

THIS!!! I'm writing a novel that's will shed light onto this as well as other things. The novel takes place in the German Empire in the year 1890 and is about a 16 year old duchess who's a cambion (half human, half demoness) and seeking revenge after her parents are murdered. The main character is sweet and some people are easily manipulated by her because she's a girl and during that time, it was believed that a girl wasn't capable of committing a crime, let alone killing somebody. Ariesia (who goes by the alias "Bellina" to protect her identity and is the main character) is really sweet however she won't hesitate to do whatever it takes to get the info she needs. Her being 16, a girl, and a duchess won't stop her from avenging her late parents ❤

[@blossxma]

@@paanora I have yet to release it but I'm going to publish it on Wattpad and Neobook

[@blossxma]

@@paanora I technically wanted to be a Japanese light novel, but I don’t know the Japanese language or anything so I can’t fully make it that way. But I do want it to be adapted into a manga and anime. For now, I'll just write it on Wattpad and maybe Neobook as well. And see how it goes.

[@_L1gmAaa]

​@@blossxmathat sounds like a really good novel! Is it finished?

[@zelzel05]

What platform can it be read on?

[@MomoLuv49]

The whole ordeal of “It’s the fathers fault” was disgusting. How could you blame the victim?? The father WAS the victim and the son was obviously the manipulator

[@blu3berrycow592]

The youtuber knows its not the victims fault. But yeah, i was shown this during school. Me and my classmates watched it whilr a sub was there. And so many girls and boys were saying "the dad is older and stronger how much of a wussy is he?" I remember this so well because it was disgusting. A victim can be anyone, not just a poor innocent little girl. And a predator can be anyone, not just a scary big man.

[@MomoLuv49]

@@blu3berrycow592 Exactly, also I know the KZbinr knew I was talking about the comments, they’re literally sad.

[@yumdinonugs]

"how could the son overpower the dad???" was a hard one to hear

[@littlemochii123]

It was a little bit of the father's fault because he literally did nothing to stop the kid. But honestly your right, but it's still the father's fault a little. He didn't even tell him to stop doing it. The son was fully to blame. That is extremely disgusting.

[@blu3berrycow592]

@littlemochii123 no. It's not "a little of the father's fault." The dad literally was screaming no, and he didn't stop. And it's not like the son didn't know better or that the father didn't try to stop him. What are you on to even think that?

[@Bunny._.IsHere]

“The mom never did anything” From what I saw, it seemed more as though the mother was in denial of it happening. She didn’t believe it- probably because she had to find out on her kid’s *wedding day* that he was abusing the father like this. No parent wants to believe their child is capable of being a monster. It was probably the same case for the dad as well- he didn’t want to believe his son was going to hurt him.

[@jissellecruz4054]

She definitely knows but I feel like she didn't wanna ruin her perfect family image

[@LilLadyAy]

Keeping up appearance, denial and fear of the freak offspring and the flashy life they would lose.

[@whirlyturtles718]

i think this excuse stops being viable after she purposefully ignores the sound of the door being broken down and his screams; at the point, denial is not an excuse. You know your son is a monster and you’re choosing to disregard it until your husband is dead.

[@Lovelyj-qu5dv]

@@whirlyturtles718fr. like she knew what was happening, she heard it, and she had the power to stop it. whatever reason she had for not interfering is unjustifiable

[@pizzapizza6722]

It doesn’t matter what she thought or felt anyways. Her emotions do not matter in this completely unjustified she should have done something

[@bastet2139]

Saying to "grow some balls" is disgusting. Its not easy to talk about something like this, especially when it involves a family member. It took me 10 years to speak about it.

[@guapo5414]

Exactly, I'm surprised he made remarks like that, also mentioning the fact that he kept saying, 'so the father is at fault too cuz he never stopped him'. No fucking remorse

[@theEqualtruth]

"Not every parent deserves a child, and not every child deserves a parent "- The Equal Truth

[@melridaa]

Real

[@SaliQueen28]

??? Its not equal truth cuz child can’t adopt/make a parent.

[@juicymango562]

⁠@@SaliQueen28I’m sure they mean as in children can mistreat and abuse their parents

[@pebbles_of_fruit]

i would re-word it as, not every parent deserves a child, but not every parent deserves what their child does to them.

[@Greendaylover1]

It's basically the education of the parents because they're the ones to educate their kids yk?

[@yurii_plisetsky]

this made me pray to god while watching this and i'm literally an athiest 💀

[@TOTALLY.LESBIAN.SQUIRREL]

SAME

[@Milk-ck1wv]

damn had you change quick

[@Wywunthitmotn]

This is the most real comment here omg

[@Feimicha]

I’m Christian, and I’m with you. I believe there’s no valid reason to be rude and generally disrespectful to people that aren’t Christian or any other flavor of religious, but I’m glad we’re on the same line of thought. Holy shit that was fucking wild

[@TOTALLY.LESBIAN.SQUIRREL]

@@Feimicha Your comment was really nice. But "other flavor of religions" made me giggle lol (sorry if this comes off as rude im not really good with words)

[@rinatsoo]

The fact that he had the audacity to gaslight him by saying that “It’s just love” and saying that he “started” it makes me sick. It can also mean that the son is so overpowering to his dad. He also switched up when the dad was hit and he said “DON’T TOUCH HIM” to his mom like the body is super contagious makes him look even more controlling

[@trentonking764]

I actually thinks he's gay

[@mongu6103]

The son was so gross and manipulative.

[@debbi8752]

Duh 🙄

[@PGOuma]

​@@trentonking764what that gotta do with anything 😭😭😭

[@rinatsoo]

@@trentonking764 idk if you meant it in a bad way or neither positive nor negative

[@emilyrose3490]

19:02 honestly, even if the dad ‘just let it happen’, he’s still a victim. He was probably traumatized and didn’t know what to do or to say, and honestly, nobody would say that if it were a female victim

[@keithismychikibeibi6062]

"nobody would say that if it were a female victim" are you serious? that has nothing to do with the abuse happening in the movie. And I can assure you it's not true. Nobody would say that if it were a younger victim, do not bring gender into this for once.

[@KIYOMII_CINNA]

​@@keithismychikibeibi6062 I agreed until the last sentence "nobody would say that if it were a female victim" I agree with you.

[@bushlemon3971]

No but gender truly influences a lot especially when it comes to a case like this tho

[@Hhshsjhjk]

Lots of people would say that with a women wtf? Also I think it had more to do with the fact that the dad was in a position of power, a parent, older. People don’t understand that younger people can control someone older, or that parents can be under control of their children. Everyone immediately assumes children/younger people are the victim because society portrays the idea that they have no power which just isn’t true. They can be awful, and it’s not always an adults fault.

[@lun4__2763]

"Its js love, dad" its manipulative. The son is blaming his dad for what he didnt do. He's being narcissistic.

[@luvxley_dxrianw]

you do not know how bad i feel for the dad. r@ped and manipulated by his son, ignored by his wife, it’s disgusting to think that this happens in the real world too.

[@Dolphinboi]

U never have heard of a boy raping his father. Stop lying. That is delusional and homophobic. Ur spreading propaganda

[@CreamyZoro]

Fr

[@_RatterCatter_]

TOKO FUKAWA 🤯 but yes you're right, this is disgusting that it happens in real life

[@Yapping_Chameleon-m4y]

@@_RatterCatter_i do not understand that word from the start

[@iloveshoujorei]

My theory is that the son “loved” his dad MUCH more than his mom. He thought that his parents had a loveless marriage. I don’t think the dad is 100% innocent but I do think that the son is more in the wrong. I think the son manipulated the dad and had an unhealthy obsession with him which lead to him loving him in a non normal way. The dad was probably ashamed and embarrassed to the point where he felt like he couldn’t talk about it, like many SA victims. I think during the 14 years the dad may have tried to stop it but never be able too. He wrote the book as a way to finally speak up and share his story, as it’s very hard for people in that situation to talk about it. Edit : This was just my initial thoughts , so if some things I said don’t make sense I’m sorry . Yes the dad probably was a creep to his son at the beginning but at the end of the day everything is left up for speculation

[@brybry_RainbowKlutz_Marz]

So it’s like a very very bad version of golden child syndrome? But a more abusive one?

[@CarrotSpunk.]

Yeah the dude also told the mom that he "loved" the dad more than her.

[@Milk-ck1wv]

What do you mean you think the dad is also at fault here? But then you also continue to say he struggled with telling that he was rped like other SA victims. How is he at ANY FAULT??? The wife is at fault for letting it continue when she knew her son was assaulting her husband repeatedly! How is the dad not 100% innocent? Because hes older? Because he's a grown man? I don't understand how he could be at fault in any way.

[@CarrotSpunk.]

@@Milk-ck1wv They are not fully blaming the dad they just saying they had a feeling about him not being 100% innocent I don't know why came to the conclusion that people are victim-blaming.

[@iloveshoujorei]

@@CarrotSpunk. Yeah, also the mom didn’t have the chance to read the book, she probably just thought the dad was the abuser. The son is also the one being seen engaging and starting these activities. I think it’s a very grey area and no one will know what really happened. I’m not saying it’s an sa victims fault for getting sa’d, I’m sorry if it sounded that way. I sometimes have problems wording my sentences.

[@shasirr]

16:03 "he kind of slayed with that" after a r@p3 scene is fucked up bro. Like what were you actually thinking.

[@Amitisaaaa]

Exactly and all the other jokes he made and laughed at from the chat

[@lovely2wice]

i was genuinely horrified oh my god i had to pause there and just think about it for a good few minutes, everybody who was making jokes is actually so sick in the head

[@lui7258]

Yeah screw this KZbinr, absolutely disgusting behavior

[@Microplasticmuncher]

Right like that’s just a sick thing to say

[@genderfluidlygay7146]

I was SO disgusted at that, my god. Like i tried my best to understand his perspective, but tbh its just beyond disgusting abd childish. The jokes were SO insensitive. Bro needs help. And a better education. And the fact he was laughing in between too, yuck.

[@quanxiluverr]

I legitimately could NOT watch this without pausing like ten million times. I felt like i was genuinely tweaking as i watched things played out. I was disgusted and horrified, i felt terrible about for the father. He seemed to try so hard to raise his son properly, explaining that things like masturbating is normal for a teenage boy. It seems even if you're raised in a perfectly good family, something can still turn out wrong. Im not sure of i can finish watching this.

[@ruvimbokambiri7599]

SAME ID AKWARDLY PAUSE AND TAKE A MOMENT OF SILENCE

[@Aizalaleena]

Literally me to and same

[@_Tatyanalow]

Literally skipping half though I can not watch this

[@4ngel_W1ngz]

I thought you said, “genuinely twerking.. 😭 but for me, I just kept zoning out and rethinking life choices and thinking if I should continue watching.. 💀💀

[@quanxiluverr]

@@4ngel_W1ngz lmaooo that's actually so funny 😭😭😭

[@iceysun]

The dad should've stopped him, no matter what, but there was obviously something that he was scared about. The son was so in the wrong and he should've gotten in trouble.

[@shooshiMooshi]

no yeah see there’s so many unanswered questions. i’m mostly on the dads side.

[@decristal48]

Victims of sexu4l abus3 are often embarrased and afraid of what happend. It always better for everyone else to speak so everyone know, but I would never blame any victim for not speaking about it because it's really difficult.

[@cokser]

You do realize that even if someone is physically and mentally "bigger" that doesn't mean they have the mental power to stop someone. How you feel mentally is how you feel physically it's either fright or flight. Everyone can flight but in fright you cant. I am always the bigger person but there are some times where I freeze up or just let ppl talk abt me or talk to me wrong instead of telling them to stop. Now I ain't never gone through something like this. But there are times where the shock and fear takes over. If I had a child like this I would tell them stop, but stuff like this you just can't say "hey that's not okay" when they are over the age of elementary and are teens that's something you can't just say stop and no one wants to put their hands on their kids no matter how hard it is and considering that the dad is getting older and weaker and the son is only getting stronger and bigger, what more can you do? Plus with all the gaslighting and manipulation on top of both being men.

[@rainesaysdie863]

The dad's the victim here

[@iceysun]

@@rainesaysdie863 i do realize that but i still think he should've done more

[@pezdispenser8397]

Everyone in the live chat blaming the victim and feeling so sorry for the silent accomplice 💀 I’m dead

[@galaxtaetrash]

Ikr, people in the chat are wild💀

[@Clemaglorine]

No literally like it's so weird how they were all victim blaming I only saw like 3 people who said they felt bad for the dad😭

[@mikeoochie7699]

Not surprising Its twitch

[@gothgrape]

The chat make me lose hop in humanity even more

[@wowa1834]

Twitch chat

[@vakikimini7139]

"Hell is empty, because all the devils are here"

[@MiiPunchy]

So yeah its been confirmed this short film is about the abuse of children at the hands of their parents (in this case, the father) However its message is made more shocking by switching the role of the father with the son. Thats why in the end of the story, the son was wearing the clothing of the father. For the whole story, the son was in the role of the adult and the adult was in the role of the minor. Thats why the power imbalance was so prominent and confusing.

[@shooshiMooshi]

OHHHHHHHH damnnn wtf LMAO. the switching clothes thing is such a cool detail i missed. yeah no wonder the power imbalance was kinda nutty

[@TeenWeedMcGee]

I think it's not that confusing and this is something that we have seen countless times. It's just the first time we've all been forced to sit and watch it unfold

[@MiiPunchy]

@@TeenWeedMcGee it wasn't really confusing to me (considering I wrote all this), I'm just noting how it obviously confused Shooshi (and maybe plenty of others considering the OG comment has 1k likes)

[@galactic_studio09]

I'm a little confused. If they wanted to tell a story about the abuse of children at the hands of their parents, then why not make the film be about the father abusing his son? Why are the roles reversed?

[@Miyuki4902]

​@galactic_studio09 the film is probably ment to show anyone can be an abuser or a victim, like they can be older or younger or a boy or a girl they can still an abuser, hope this helps :) (not in a rude way)

[@Thescooped23]

It’s interesting to see a depiction of an SA victim being older than the abuser, because people rarely believe that or think that’s possible

[@voice_0f_reason]

Yeah, I was completely shocked

[@Thescooped23]

@@voice_0f_reason from the thumbnail and title I thought the father was the abuser

[@epichandleidk1]

​@@Thescooped23same

[@blazingstar9638]

Yes it was extra notable for this. I commend those that created it

[@Mimi-zm9ry]

But it's very common, because sometimes old people are disabled and can't fight back. It happens to very old grandmas and also predator is family member, maybe grandchild. I know it's disgusting

[@sheevuta5203]

Not him gaslighting and manipulating his father into thinking it's his fault 💀 he even directly deflected the behavior 😢 17:58

[@ComewithLexi]

I was js on that part 😭

[@michaelmccoy9239]

Same💀

[@kenkan-edgy7206]

There’s no way the dad started this on purpose either, like he’s clearly disgusted at his own son

[@LaeLove-x9s]

@@kenkan-edgy7206He wouldn’t have been scared of him, and he wouldn’t have written a 300 page document about it

[@seaybreeze]

He was a father, not a professional psychologist!!! How can you blame the victim for getting assaulted dude that’s wild

[@doodooprofusely7142]

Dude… I wish there was more sympathy for the dad in this as he was a literal victim by not only one of his family members but his own son who he’s responsible for and is supposed to protect. The shock and the way this could effect a parent is indescribable especially when adding how emotionally manipulative the son was. The fact no one did anything is horrible and it’s icky to me how we seem to be blaming the dad when he was trying to escape but the wife failed to answer his calls for help.

[@Mayometal]

Yea i heard another case abt a kid trying touch his mom, its rlly bad😭

[@Dolphinboi]

I wish you men wouldn't be assaulting women every day

[@mintymins3534]

I feel like there was a lack of understanding from Shooshi how hard it is to come out about this stuff,,, the dad clearly didn't have control over the situation and I completely empathized with the dad as someone who's assaulter tried to make me keep quiet over what happened. It's not easy to just tell people that someone's been doing something to you for a long time, and trying to tell his wife through his writing is something I really related with,,,,,, I'm certainly not mad but just hope that you could educate yourself a little more on the complexity victims feel. Often times we feel like it's our fault it happened which is why we struggle to say anything in the first place (though of course it's different for every victim) /nm /neu

[@therealcemi]

the big idea and question shooshimooshi is trying to say and ask here is how did this happen the first time, because the dad should've been more in power in the first place? i think that the dad was very confused and distraught, and the son manipulated him, but that's only my opinion and shooshi has a different one

[@shooshiMooshi]

okay just to clarify. dude i 1000% am on the dads side in this movie. i have empathy and when i said "just tell the wife" on stream, that was just me messing around with chat. I know that speaking out against your abuser is one of the scariest things a victim can do. The only question I raise is, was the dad 100% innocent on the first night they ever had sex when the kid was 16-17 years old? maybe he was, maybe he wasn't. that's all and im pretty sure all of us are dying to know how exactly that night played out. But yes AFTER THAT NIGHT, i agree that the father is the victim straight up.

[@Milk-ck1wv]

​@@shooshiMooshi👏👏👍

[@Balincia20]

@@shooshiMooshi ok I get where you coming from now, it sounded like victim blaming for a sec and I was confused 😭

[@bunersitoos]

​@@shooshiMooshiI think the father was ALWAYS the victim, when he gave him comfort about mastrbation the son misunderstood him, making him believe that his paraphilia was completely fine.

[@Celestial4ever]

These actors deserve a Oscar, like the son made me ball my fists 😭.

[@BrewsBrownies]

Literally

[@aeoligarlic4024]

I hope it's not based on a true story (?) 😭

[@Inconnuexx]

@@aeoligarlic4024 i hope too

[@nelltrynahop]

It is. I got informed, yes.​@@aeoligarlic4024

[@lunavz8433]

​@@aeoligarlic4024 i think it is im not sure.

[@g0thicghost]

this is such an old video but like . the jokes he and the chat made about the video made me so fucking uncomfortable holy shit 😭 idk about you guys but to me it’s so obvious the son was gaslighting the dad into thinking he was somehow at fault for being r4ped. this is such a heartbreaking film and honestly idk how people laugh about it bc this stuff happens irl and it’s so gross

[@Mintcar659]

Right ?? I’ve been a fan of shooshi for a while and for some reason I went back to rewatch this vid and the stuff he says is just like.. disgusting .

[@user-me-0001]

I learnt in school when someone is being SA'd they usually just freeze up. Unable to understand what's happening. And when it keeps happening they become ashamed or too scared to reveal the truth. Prolly what happened here😔

[@humanoide7076]

My ex used to freeze up whenever his mother touched him and I saw once that she was touching him in a way that I realize that in intimacy he told me that turned him on and I didnt know his mother touched him that way also he told me he used to pee himself when he was little but not so little, I know that happens when you are being abused, he left me because she said so also he has a very weird relationship and almost obsession with his sister, the mother and sister are narcs and he i feel like he treats his girlfriends bad bc in intimacy it seems like he is sex...abusing you, like overpowering you and forces you and his face is of total anger and always says that woman are whores and skanks if they are not virgins and that he wants to dominate hi gf in bed. His mother and sister didnt like me at all and it happened with all of his gfs, in all of his break up stories the reason is always the mom and sister most likely the mom and she told me that he cant have a wife bc her and her daughter are his priority like he is her husband, she didnt even want for him to take me out I had to give him gas money for that to happen yet she was jealous and his sister wanted everything he gave me, she even has the same clothes that he gifted me but with different color, they are weird, the sister has no personality and is a fake and shallow person, the mother only accepted me at first bc of $$$ and treated me like a housemaid 24/7 and Im in debt bc of her and after taking everything from me she convinced him to leave me (I talked to his "toxic" ex afterwards and she told me the mother tried to kill herself to break them up and was a violent person she even destroyed his car so he wouldnt go out with her and bc that didnt work out she took a lot of pills to kill herself and she survive but she kept saying she was going to die and in the end she won bc my ex left his former gf and after a lot of years I entered his life and the same story only that this time the mother said I was going to die, that woman is sick and I feel like she did abused him also she was abusive towards her late husband rip, he had that look of someone that saw horrible things you know like the people that come back from war, thats the look he had in his eyes and my ex cried in his sleep)

[@rupinderkaur3008]

That is soo true!! I was SAed when i was 5 or 6 years old but didn't understand what it meant and when i encountered the same situation years later last year i just froze in the place and even though this time he was younger than me but everything started to kick in. I believe this is just a humanily response to trauma and our brain just stops for seconds and we get confused about what to do in that movement especially when the other person is your friend or relative.

[@kyrauniversal]

I am so sorry that happened to you. ​@@rupinderkaur3008

[@Haley-oc2zw]

I froze up when my guy best friend touched me. He still says it was my fault

[@Komi617]

WOW! Okay I feel called out now XDD

[@buttergirl2499]

I think it draws the line on how people shouldn't blame the victim. Adults would have done everything to make a young child do good but still turn out bad. This short movie really gave you that insight on how heavy it is for a victim to be a kid or an adult just as much as how the abuser CAN ALSO be the kid or an adult. It's a tragic story of a family that has been broken for many reasons. Because when abuse comes into a picture, no matter how you can see the colours and strokes ABUSE is still ABUSE. Blaming is the next part of the abuse, who's in the wrong? It's obvious we can point it at the son that easily since he's the one that coerce the dad. We could end the discussion with that. But people forget that the people who were silent were also part of it. The mother knew all along but refused to report it or push away the son and even worse REFUSE TO ACKNOWLEDGE it. The dad probably had his shortcomings during his guidance on his son, but it's not to be a reason for him be punished for it or be blamed of the abuse just from that. Ps. Shoosh, it's alright. I get how you confused on the details, it has big loops and plots that we wouldn't know.

[@hannahali1787]

R@pe is r@pe. Even if the minor is the one forcing themselves onto the adult. There was a case some what similar to this in my town that happened a few years back when I was a kid, I remember hearing a lot of news reports about it and revisited it recently. There was this teacher who was just a 26 year old woman. She was very kind to all her students but one of her students took her kindness as affection and tried to make a move on her. She rejected immediately but the student didn’t like that and forced himself on her. She was a weak woman and was underweight but she says that she believes she might have been able to grab something around and hit him with it and it could buy her sometime to run but the overwhelming fear she felt stopped her from even screaming. All she could do was stay still and cry in pain. I’m not going to go too into the details because her description of what had happened was horrifying. This continues because the student threatens to tell people that she was the one who started this and that he had wanted no part in it till she had started to use his grades against him. He made it out that she was the manipulative one when in reality he was the one manipulating and blackmailing her, he would take photos of her in certain positions to further overpower her. This would go on for 4 years or so and the student would go to college but the student would still maintain the toxic relationship until he decided to release the photos and the school the teacher worked at found out. She was then fired and put under investigation. The photos showed a lot of signs of no consensual sexu@l activity which were used as evidence for her r@pe. There was other evidence such as a video showing the r@pe. Despite the clear evidence of r@pe and she clearly did not want to do anything with the student, she was listed as a s*x offender and went to prison for around 6 months. Her punishment was lighter since she was a woman but the student even though they did find clear and definitive evidence for the r@pe, the prime piece being the video that showed there was no consent, the student wasn’t charged with anything since what had happened was considered a mistake and let him off to not spoil his athletic scholarship. The woman was never able to show her face in our town again and she moved after getting out of prison doing whatever she may. The father was definitely manipulated and likely upon the first occurrence of his son’s abuse he was over taken in such a state of shock that he couldn’t move or defend himself. His age might also have a play since his son was in high school and probably stronger than a 40-50 year old man who already seems so caring towards his son that hurting him or his son hurting him would be out of the question and just impossible in the poor father’s eyes. The father was an oblivious prey during the first interaction. He became a victim after that. Sorry if it’s hard to read, English isn’t my first language.

[@AwesomeNoice-vz9ju]

Please tell me that the kid was arrested or exposed for it.

[@missfazbear8810]

That's horrible. Our justice systems really need to be updated. Also, your English is great!

[@hannahali1787]

@@AwesomeNoice-vz9ju he was not, he had a trial for the r@pe but did not get charged for anything and now he’s living life as if it never happened. The judge took pity on him and let him off so it wouldn’t affect his college scholarship since he was an athlete.

[@hannahali1787]

@@missfazbear8810 it really does need to be updated yes. And thank you, I am taking classes to improve as much as possible!

[@hannahali1787]

@@vxzedd this is hardly anything about the case actually, I had to leave out a lot of details because they can trigger warning. Really just more of a short summary compared to all that happened

[@ルナルーナ]

Remember, S’A could be on anyone, male, female, young, or old. No matter the age, and gender, you can be the victim

[@Meowruo]

Top 10 reasons why arceus should have not create humanity on earth

[@MillerTheMagicalBoyDarkPrince]

Who is arceus?

[@Meowruo]

​@@MillerTheMagicalBoyDarkPrince God of pokemon

[@shooshiMooshi]

LMAO

[@MillerTheMagicalBoyDarkPrince]

@@shooshiMooshi Hi 👋🏽

[@SunsetTheDeer]

True, I could have been a charizard or something 😔

[@bigbunnyleabee]

WHY ARE SO MANY PEOPLE AGAINST THE DAD. What yall dont understand is age and position dont matter in this situation. A kid can overpower an adult. And even then. Fighting him like yall suggested can go south in so many ways.

[@anthonyhuaman2795]

Sí importa la posición del padre. Que un niño se ponga por encima del padre siempre va a ser responsabilidad del padre. Dureza, crueldad, miedo, justicia, responsabilidad. Eso debe transmitírselo hasta nunca olvidarlo. Hombres débiles crean tiempos difíciles.

[@guslinkwinkwink]

@@anthonyhuaman2795 In my opnion, even tho the Father may be guilty for some actions. The Son is in the fucking wrong and you shouldn't be calling a victim of R@pe and Sexual Assault weak. I have experienced getting Molested/SA'd and due to fear, i was not able to speak up about it even though i wanted to. I was afraid, powerless, scared, feared and traumatized but i couldnt speak about it all. The Father may have started the reason for his son Molesting and Raping him, but it is NOT his fault on why his son fell in love with him in the wrong way.

[@jut_dwaetoucher]

@@anthonyhuaman2795Weak men? He was raped, manipulated, abused and tormented by the man he was supposed to raise and love. You wanna talk about weak men, then let’s talk about YOU having no empathy for a victim of such trauma and crimes.

[@Ijustgotranover]

​@@anthonyhuaman2795i hope you know how fucking disgusting it is to balme the victim.When someone is getting graped they freeze ,their body dosent know how to react.

[@sevein6063]

This reaction is kinda distasteful at parts.. The blaming of the father, asking why he doesn’t just “beat” him, talking about throwing away the book. Rape is rape no matter who’s the victim, just because he has the authority over his son (being the parent) doesn’t mean he has full control of the situation. Of this was reversed (parent on child abuse) this reaction would not come off the same way

[@nevaehhamilton3493]

I'm sorry, but he will NOT see things your way.

[@queenbeequeen3143]

😕😆

[@XppleCutiie]

@@nevaehhamilton3493now he does, in the comments he said he would try to be more mindful

[@nevaehhamilton3493]

@@XppleCutiie he can say that all he wants, but he has to show us first.

[@XppleCutiie]

@@nevaehhamilton3493 good point

[@Mallowyc]

Normally I'd say sweet home alabama as a joke but THIS IS NOT A JOKE

[@TIGREX118]

Thank God for that ending, this was sad and gross. But good for the mom taking revenge

[@RizupltElizia]

Doesn’t change the horrors that the son have done to the dad.

[@balala5430]

​@@RizupltElizia atleast it won't happen again

[@ZackBBH]

18:12 he’s narcissistic, he’s blaming it on his dad as if he started it.

[@daochiara]

He is a psycho

[@Littleloser101]

This movie is so sad but is an important story that not many are willing to tell

[@shooshiMooshi]

w take

[@Littleloser101]

@@shooshiMooshi thanks

[@SencereHarris]

What's the name of the movie

[@Robloxgameryt47]

​@@SencereHarris the strange thing about the johnsons.

[@TsukasaUtau]

It wasn't the father's fault, nor did he enjoy it in any way. The father was afraid to speak because he felt it was his fault for letting everything happen, he felt it was his fault for being abused. He knew that people would blame him since the son was a minor when it all started. The father, for fear that something would happen to his son, or that the son himself would do something to him, did not say anything during all that time.

[@Bunny_Tea_Lol]

The son r@ping the dad in the first place is just disgusting 🤢😭

[@DollsLoveWind]

Fr

[@sobbinfrn2937]

18:51 I really disagree that the dad should've stopped it, because to me, it really seems like he never instigated anything himself, and was abused from the start (a common way to victim blame is to say that the victim "started it" or "seduced" the abuser), it kind of hurts to see so many comments say that the dad should've done something because (at least to me) the dad was too scared to fight back from the very beginning; it is far harder to fight back when YOU are the one in his position and the fear you feel when you are in his place is very real, I love this film for portraying that so well

[@shooshiMooshi]

uhh i’m at work rn so i can’t go to the time stamp. all i’ll say is i’m really only questioning the first ever time they did it when the son was 16 or something. everything after that tho, when the son was older, yeah no the father is powerless honestly. don’t take what i said too seriously tbh. im still trying to get better at being mindful on livestreams because i get hyper and blurt out stuff. trust me when i say i’m well educated on how victims feel when i’m an abusive relationship

[@sobbinfrn2937]

@@shooshiMooshi Yeah I understand, you can't figure out the entire story based off the 30 minutes of interaction in the short film and you didn't have any prior knowledge of the short film. At the time of writing my comment I hadn't seen your comment adressing it either, so I'm sorry about that.

[@lorietherizzler]

tbh the father is like uh..65ish so he's kinda powerless

[@outerspaceproduction]

I'm traumatized already and the video just started 😭

[@shooshiMooshi]

you’re welcome :3

[@Ldldødødøl]

@@shooshiMooshiyour pure evil, and its hilarious

[@2onbora]

@@shooshiMooshihi pookie :3

[@LavaGirl-qf5xv3bd4k]

This is a message to all the people here who are the victims of sexual abuse. I am so sorry that you had to go through this horrible thing. I hope you are alright. If any one of you is ashamed, then please don't. It is not your fault, it is the fault of your perpetrators. I hope you all have gotten justice. If not, then I hope you get justice as soon as possible. I hope you have healed from the trauma. I am here for you. We all are here for you, friend(s). God Bless You All ❤

[@Armand0627]

I actually heard that the roles were reversed on purpose to get a reaction from the audience. It flips the dynamic of SA that goes on in families. In the film the dad is the one getting assaulted and the son is the abuser. While more realistically the dad would be the abuser and the son would be the victim. A lot of ppl found the film funny which is not surprising considering that male SA is often played for laughs.

[@five.is.da.best.numba..]

I’d say the film is less about the double standards of male SA (which is still a problem btw) and more about the double standard of the abuser being younger than the victim.

[@professional_frog_xd3235]

i feel like this movie is a graphic way of showing the abusive relationships some parents have with their kids but to make it more shocking the roles are reversed, that's why the dad couldn't leave or even talk back(kids with abusive parents are enabled to be independent by their parents to leave them no choice but to stay with them) and why the mom tried to ignore it even if she could stop it(the other parent often doesn't say anything even if they're aware of their kids being mistreated because of fear). the son also was emotionally manipulating the dad by making his feel guilty(in this case he would be guilty because he should had the power to stop him but abused kids don't have the power to do anything) the ending is the saddest part because the dad ran to his d3ath(could be a way to portray how abused kids feel like svic1de is the only option) and the mom burnt the book because it was the only way the truth could come out and she didn't want to deal with the shame or guilt(parents often keep their kids svic1de letters a secret to avoid guilt)

[@cosmicwitchclarith]

Mom also feels like a neglected sibling. Like sometimes one sibling is the focus point of the abuse while the other sibling is forgotten. Dad was the lust object that was constantly under fire and mom was the forgotten and neglected one that knew that as long as she kept quiet she wouldn't have to undergo the same abuse

[@christaylor7916]

​@@cosmicwitchclarithhe never wanted the mom sexually

[@xandria_xoxo]

"Abuse has no gender nor age." Abuse isn't only for men, it can also be in women. It doesn't matter if the abuser is older or younger. It still and always be abuse.

[@MrSumme345]

True

[@niyadabesttt]

real

[@Judgementfr]

Nobody said it was only for men

[@sada-hoshi4331]

Mayoritary of time is for Women that's why they are showing in This film that SA can come from every person you Know, so the Heck you said first the men and like people Are going to thing it does exist for Women that literally are the first victims is this shit?

[@ree3197]

Maybe the dad was a victim of abuse when he was a child.. and he went back into that zombie-like complacent zone when his son started abusing him also? He clearly felt guilty!

[@s_haro]

The topic is a very important and sensitive subject. But the way this content creator addresses it and treat it is not well done. I wished that not everyone started to make videos about serious stuff as a way to get views if they can't be mature and empathetic enough themselves to talk correctly about these kind of things. The movie is about incest. A dad is being raped bu is son. If it was the other way around, no one would say that the person being raped by a family member is "letting it happen" and "as guilty and fucked up" as the raper.

[@koineko.]

this scene at 14:30 speaks levels to me. if you can notice the aireal view shows us the entirety of the bathroom: all of its corners and walls. notice the lack of windows or alternate doors. its supposed to make you feel trapped, to show you that there was nowhere for the dad to escape. it helps emulate the feelings of being trapped and helpless, like many SA victims describe themselves feeling. the same thing was noticeable in the boy's room: one solitary window. he had the chance to back out, but he didn't. it looked as if he was the helpless one, but it turns out he was the true manipulator. (this is just my interpretation tho :3)

[@pariahazul8653]

Damn that’s kinda deep

[@esibeleth]

That’s how I subconsciously felt about that scene

[@s0ftweb0982]

terrified. frightened. afraid. scared. shocked. alarmed. fearful. aghast. alarming. chilling. creepy. eerie. hairy. horrifying.

[@Uesr2004D]

Disgusting and depress

[@thatstockin]

Bro pulled out the whole dictionary lmao

[@mwamewri]

Hairy?...

[@ORAACLE8299]

@@mwamewribro…💀

[@supercoolguy123i]

hairy😍😍😍😍

[@fawnajohnson6130]

Funny enough (disgusting enough), I have a similar story in my family. My adoptive sister (let's call her Julie) and my adoptive brother (let's call him William) one night, had sex together. It was determined in court that William raped Julie. William went to a juvenile detention center (they were both about 15 yo) and Julie went to an in-house mental health treatment center. Years later, now as adults, Julie admitted to another sister of mine that the sexual encounter was actually consentual, on both sides. Julie was getting into trouble at school, and Mom took notice. She was cutting herself, and Mom wanted to get her help. Julie didn't want help; she didn't want to go to therapy. So, she lied and said William raped her, believing that saying so would somehow get her out of going to therapy. It obviously didn't work as she had hoped. William was absolutely fucked over in that situation, but he not a good person, in my opinion. He hates our father, as she has recently come out as transgender. William tried to lie and say that our father raped me. He knew the concequences for that lie first hand, yet he was willing to enact that same cruelty on the man who raised him, all because she was never truely a man. She raised him better than his own blood parents did, and that's what she gets as thanks. And don't get me started on Julie's bad actions. I know that all probably sounds like r/thathappened, but I promise it's true. There are still papers from court lying around the house somewhere. Shooshi might have been a bit critical of the dad, but I think some questioning is healthy. Yes, the supposed victim may truely be a victim. In that case, get them help. But bad people can play victim. The world is complex. Anything can happen. In an ideal world, the victim should feel safe to report abuse, and the investigative forces shouldn't jump to ANY conclusions. All avenues should be explored. ...Sorry for the rant, lol

[@cheezrolls]

holy crap dude, are you okay with all that stuff happening??

[@fawnajohnson6130]

@@cheezrolls Oh fuck no! All that shit should never have happened. But it did, so you gotta live with it. I hope they get therapy (they sure could fucking use it), but based on previous behaviors, I highly doubt it

[@qualifiedxiaosimp]

holy shit, bro..😨 that’s so fucked

[@fayere]

That was a whole movie plot 😨 that's absolutely wild and sad, sorry that had to be a part of your life oh my gosh dude what.. 😭

[@siorganism]

These types of people are the reason why people dont take victims of rape seriously.

[@Artlover334_]

Respect for the actors man I know they feel uncomfortable while doing that scene 😭

[@astronomicalroachjuice]

okay, the whole "the dad is at fault" thing made me feel sick to my stomach when watching. it's VERY possible for a younger individual to do something like this, and the son seemed like he was experienced on a whole other level of manipulating. the dad also seemed to be stopping himself from telling someone (which is very common in people who've been SA'd), like the son had told him something to make him stop.

[@Caduceus444]

4:24 I respect a man who is not afraid of using his mothertonge for a few words while speaking english constantly.

[@WittyDiablo]

As someone who has been assaulted, and faulted myself because i didn't come out about it soon enough was running straight to the comments when he said it was also the dads fault, because it is NEVER a victim of SA'S fault, but im glad its all clarified.

[@hickeerujibo8092]

Sorry that happened to you :(

[@Mynameissgood]

I hope u got your justice and in better place

[@WittyDiablo]

@@Mynameissgood I'm currently still in my healing process and I'm learning to trust and live properly again, I really appreciate it ♥️

[@Mynameissgood]

@@WittyDiablo nowadays I am really stress a guy is threatening me he will unalive himself if I didn't talk to him, any suggestions

[@WittyDiablo]

@@Mynameissgood My suggestion is don't do anything you don't want to do, whatever happens simply because you didn't talk to him, isn't your fault, I've seen things like this happen a lot, and most times they never do it, but I promise that it's not your job to be responsible of what another person's actions are, you are not responsible for someone else's safety.

[@kkhoneytee]

Most people don’t understand that sometimes when a victim is being gr@ped/sexually assaulted sometimes they freeze up. Basically meaning, the dad did not know what to do in the situation. Fight, flight, or freeze. Just because the son was a minor doesn’t make the dad the abuser. The son is the abuser. Victim blaming the dad because the son was in high school is ridiculous imo. The son’s manipulation tactics also are the main reason there is such a power imbalance in their relationship.

[@YanickFilipe]

This film is fucking disgusting I couldn't even watch it without covering my eyes,but tbh this movie is insanely good.The actors,the story,everything.

[@kurii6201]

Honestly this entire film is so saddening. It's hard enough for male victims of SA to come forward, but it's not often considered how hard it would be for a male victim in a situation like this to come forward. In fact, I don't think I've ever even heard the event of a son sexually abusing his father being spoken of before. Works like this are important (imo) because they open peoples eyes to very real scenarios that are never discussed. Honestly, I hadn't even thought of the possibility before this- as bad as that sounds. What are you even meant to do in that situation? even if you take the very clear and disgusting manipulation out of the equasion, it would be very easy for the son to just turn things around and lie about his father being the perpetrator. The bathroom scene in particular had me crying, there's something about the father finally getting a repreieve only to open his eyes to something so horrible that makes it feel so sad and disgusting.

[@carleehooley6338]

Not you telling a rape victim to “grow some balls” just because he’s a man

[@bonejamins]

right

[@m1kayll4]

bro fr

[@TheMentalAsylum-d2o]

Right..

[@Yhofoodie23]

He got confused maybe???

[@SofiSafiiii]

@@Yhofoodie23 Well he needs form some brain cells

[@SquiggleStarz]

This is a really important reminder that anybody can be an abuser, and that there is no wrong way to handle it. The dad clearly has fear over his son and his son is giving him all these gifts and stuff just to make horrible decisions.

[@GRENNZ-DA-GAY]

I’m happy to see a video covering how parents or adults can be abused and/or assaulted by their kids or just people younger than them.

[@strawberryfox6906]

He was making fun of the dad the whole time

[@IDontKnowWhatToNameMyselfTwo]

​@@strawberryfox6906Can't take a joke?

[@Number1.Perfume.blackfan]

​@@IDontKnowWhatToNameMyselfTwoIf people make fun of your mom for getting r@p€d are you going to laugh?

[@chiv1084]

​@@IDontKnowWhatToNameMyselfTwoGod awful jokes you mean?

[@strawberryfox6906]

@@IDontKnowWhatToNameMyselfTwo He was making fun of a rape victim so shut up

[@LunAr_1nk]

I was paralyzed, and you my good sir, encouraged me to jump out my window.

[@Ellayofav]

This fricking traumatized me tho..

[@IheartStrawberryShortcakesss]

WE GETTIN IN THE MENTAL HOSPITAL WIT THIS ONE 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@prettybrain3]

🤣🤣😂omg!!😭

[@ayuwesalvation6371]

See you all in therapy 😟

[@emory_444]

REAL‼️‼️‼️‼️

[@RicardoM1l0s]

This video getting recommended on father's day is wild asf.

[@Keithinnie]

Chat gave me headaches at time. ‘He let it happen’ You probably heard about fight or flight but there’s also freeze. Where your body and mind is frozen so you’re unable to really talk or react in any way. Imagine being hit on by your son, That could cause a freeze reaction. It was SA wether the sons age, role in the family or gender. The son was at fault, and the dad’s reaction was normal as many SA victims experience the same freeze state.

[@santes5038]

i think the part right before the dad died is important, it's obvious the son is victim-blaming and guilt-tripping his father, and it looks like it's something he does every time the dad is trying to break off their twisted relationship. from the looks of it he does this every time and it always works, but this time the dad actually breaks away from it; he's literally had enough. even though he died in the end, i'm glad he had control over his own life.

[@3princesas595]

Poor dad he doesn't deserve a son like this

[@Amitisaaaa]

Dawg wdym “grow some balls” for deleting it..

[@Amitisaaaa]

And the way the chat was making jokes about it like somethings funny like who makes jokes about someone being gr@ped??

[@Amitisaaaa]

“Add that to your book” “he ate that up ngl” dude what..?

[@OnlyAmemory]

Ikr it’s absolutely disgusting

[@VicMeep]

🫂

[@ganyu5139]

Fr that was so unnecessary, I felt so bad for the father why would someone make a joke about someone who was just r*ped

[@kikurosai]

the fact that my cat came in for attention shortly after I finished watching this, I think she knew I was in extreme discomfort 💀 but like it's uncomfortable and gross for a reason, it's not purely for shock value and I respect that they tackled this heavy subject matter and how it's not always the parent that's the abuser, and it's not always the child that's the victim. I think the dad just didn't reinforce his son's behavior enough, who very much seemed to be mentally disturbed like this from a young age. the dad didn't fight back enough and kinda just let it happen at first, and maybe it's possible he did feel something from that intro, but he absolutely became the victim and deeply regretted past mistakes. they both did things wrong and the wife was kind of an enabler for just letting it happen. it's extremely difficult to talk about things like this but some kind of intervention could have possibly prevented the tragic outcome, and neither of the parents had the courage to speak out loud about it out of fear of what could happen. the dad just gave his wife a book of confessions and hoped for the best, and the mom just kept quiet even though she already knew exactly what was going on. they never had the courage to talk about it, until it was too late. even if the dad lost his wife from telling her, or even if the son was seen as mentally disturbed and therefore attempted to be given proper treatment (or be arrested, honestly who knows), things might have eventually improved, or at least been easier to move on from. I think their lack of communication with heavy problems like this is what ultimately screwed them over in the end. that's just my take on it though.

[@dustysoup2238]

I've always thought this film (btw this might be true) was like a father graped his son, so what if things were the other way like, what if the adult was graped by the child. How would it look if the roles were switched basically.

[@shooshiMooshi]

no yeah that’s definitely the overall point of this film. in that kind of scenario tho, there’s a different set of questions to ask as opposed the more “common” parent = abuser and child = victim dynamic

[@dustysoup2238]

@@shooshiMooshi Yeah exactly

[@IS0T0X4L]

Okay but... who tf says "It's time for din-dins."

[@CLOWN_PRINCE1939]

Some crazy man I guess 😭

[@0_.paranoia]

Ikr 😭🙏

[@RoseCurry5]

Relax. My brother used to say that when we were kids man 😭😭

[@IS0T0X4L]

@@CLOWN_PRINCE1939 nice pfp

[@IS0T0X4L]

@@RoseCurry5 alright 👍

[@EllieWilliamsmeatrider]

"He kinda ate with that" WHAT. this video pissed me off so bad. The fact that the chat is making jokes and he's laughing along with it is so disgusting dude. And the victim shaming?? "The dad is weird for letting it happen" that is actually such a weird thing to say about a rape victim.

[@iamme9328]

hope this will help you understand the situation more because there are parents like this I mean like the ones who are too kind to say no. It’s called permissive parenting, its like spoiling your kids rotten making the child have a advantage over them. I think that’s what happened it’s just my theory so I apologize if this is bothering you i was trying to tell you but I wasn’t seen and I wanted to help you understand the side of the dad.

[@Candygutz1]

I remember watching this movie with my friends and I am still traumatized😔

[@thirdwheel9938]

With your friends?? 😰😰

[@Candygutz1]

@@thirdwheel9938 yeah🙂

[@nuclearpancake3683]

Omg my condolences dude

[@arkur_]

My friend “recommended” this to me like 4-5 years ago and didn’t give me any context…. We’re still friends tho

[@mvp9]

I first watched this on my own when I was 13 and hell nawh. It traumatized me so bad that I couldn't get to finish watching it till this day, glad that the mom killed that mf.

[@farinaaavaaa]

okey so hear me out. sexual abuse in men still nowadays a taboo, and that's why a lot of people feels confused abt the film; if the roles were different, a father-daughter relationship where the dad's the abuser, the context would be waaay easier to understand. the son's keeping the position of a manipulative abuser with no regrets, and the dad the victim who's being intimidated. the discussion that takes part in the min 17:07 it seems like the son is attributing all the fault to his dad, like he provoked him somehow. its exactly the same situation when abusers or other people blame the victim of what just happened, asking what they're wearing or insinuating that they provoke them. i just feel that all have been said in the discussion is something a disturbed dad who's keeping abusing his child would say to manipulate the kid and make him feel like he caused all this, to make him feel guilty, tho. and when the mom doesn't do anything for the dad is just smth so real THAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS, people covering crimes because family members commits them. if you think abt this film with different roles, it's less confusing to understand. also, the idea of the film is pretty ingenious. the whole situation made us think that the dad may have done something wrong that let all this situation happens, we're not believing in the victim because we think that he could do anything to protect himself, and that's why we think that he's not as innocent. why we keep insisting in that part? do we unconsciously think that by the fact he's a man, he can be emotionally or physically strong enough to stop everything? or that he have the authority because he's the dad? i don't even know why i was suspicious about the dad at first when he was just being intimidated and basically tortured with the son's actions, dad is just acting like ANY SCARED, BRAINWASHED VICTIM WOULD. i think that this kind of effects comes with the taboo of man being sexually assaulted and by the idea that a lot of people (subconsciously or not) have about men being way too strong or anti-fragile to let all this occurs. people need to be more self-aware about it, men can also be victims. its crazy that we can't believe that the dad couldn't do more to avoid the abuses. imagine saying to a rape victim that she/he could have stopped her/his abuser. y'all being confused by the son saying the dad started everything when he's just being manipulative and blaming his father because maybe in his twisted mind he thinks he has the right to assault him cuz "he provoked it".

[@sigmacranbabies]

👏👏Bravo for this amazing paragraph.

[@bloxFruitsforeva]

Ain't no way I'm reading that shi

[@myTTfyp123]

@@bloxFruitsforevaongggggg

[@YourVeryLocalEarth]

​@@bloxFruitsforeva Then don't lol??? This isn't about the paragraph it's about sa, take something seriously for once 🤦‍♀️

[@bloxFruitsforeva]

The fuck you want 💀?

[@theweirdodomination]

bro the dad was never at fault. he was scared that's why he let it happen, not all men are strong enough to defend themselves, and being like that doesn't make them a wimp or weak, it's natural for a human being!

[@roseannaruiz1452]

I feel like the dad is being SA and doesn't know how to fight back .no one will help him.He doesn't want to hurt his son ,but is just scared of him.

[@goffson16]

Dude I feel so bad for the dad because it wasn’t his fault, he was trying his best to be a great father for his son and his son just thought of it as a “fetish” honestly it’s disgusting how the son can be so affectionate towards his dad when they’re literally blood related. The dad should have been more cared for because I could see the fear in his eyes whenever anything happened involving his son. Especially the bathroom scene, really needed to have some family therapy in my opinion dude.

[@yellowflower9718]

I dont know how to feel whenever people blame the dad cause just because he's older and a man, people immediately assume he had some sort of consent in this. This film was basically how just about anybody can be a victim and an abuser. Also the fact "he let it happen" doesnt mean he wanted it. Many SA victims freeze because their perpetrator is physically stronger than them, or they hold something that mentally fucks with them. Its so sad cause he's obviously the victim 😭

[@anthonyhuaman2795]

No tiene nada que ver una cosa con la otra. Justamente, porque el padre fue un blandengue que no pudo imponer respeto, le terminaron pasando por encima. ¿Acaso alguna vez se atrevió a golpearlo? Todo deja en claro que no. Él mismo reconoce que nunca tuvo una idea clara, si debió haberlo castigado. Lamentablemente, no lo hizo, y ahí están las consecuencias.

[@yellowflower9718]

@anthonyhuaman2795 aint no way you just victim blamed 💀 Its like telling a girl its her fault for the way she's dressed- not even that but not everyone has the backbone or even ability to hit someone they care about. Why do you think most rape cases are between family members and friends?

[@nordlicht5522]

​@@anthonyhuaman2795 And if the mother was sexually abused by her son, would you see it the same way? A person is being sexually abused and manipulated... that's what perpetrators do to victims! The father is a victim of his own son! Please get smarter!

[@Meii-ux7bx]

@@anthonyhuaman2795why r u blaming the victim?😭😭

[@XppleCutiie]

I think it’s because we don’t have enough context on whenever the sexual side of the relationship start. Because if it started when the son was a minor, the dad has some fault. But if the son was older and stronger, that would be different. The dad could have been powerless. But the dad is the victim in this. We don’t even have a explanation of why the son is so fucked up.

[@ĊĦÏÏ]

I feel bad for the father,it isn’t his fault, he let it happen because he was too scared. This made me cry

[@whodis2614]

Shooshi, i get that you're on the dad's side, but my god you said some really nasty stuff here. Telling a victim of abuse to grow a pair and kill his own son, blaming him for being gr@ped when he went to pick up his son from prom, trying to blame it on the father for starting it when that isn't at all what was implied by the visuals; what the fuck, dude? The father told his son that masturbation was natural, not knowing that his son was jerking off to a picture of him. That's what the son is saying when he says the father started this. The father didn't gr@pe his son, he accidentally reaffirmed the son's !nce$tu0us thoughts. And it's not bad parenting either. It is very common for @bu$e and gr@pe victims to not say anything out of fear for themselves, and it's especially difficult for family situations where the child is committing the crime because parents will often lie to keep their child safe. It happens on all levels from petty lies to murder. And @bu$ers will manipulate the shit out of their victims. That's why you often hear them say that the victim was/is a partner in crime for being a participant. *Quick edit: Just a reminder that the earliest sexual incident between the two happened on the son's prom night, meaning the the son was 17-19. I had a guy at my own high-school in that age range who was an absolute creep. Just because he was younger than the dad does not mean that he had little power at the time. I understand missing or misinterpreting things, but I just pointed out some very easy dots to connect. This was just full of bad takes and a lack of care for the material being explored in this film, and it's really gross. Maybe now that I've explained it you'll get it, because even in the replies you've made to comments you've failed to see this. I'm not saying this as some hater who wants to point out any mistakes you've made, I'm saying this as a fan of your content and out of respect. I don't want to see you make such poor takes on serious subjects like this because I give a shit. I love your content, and I will gladly criticize you when you make mistakes as big as this one because I want you to succeed. I look forward to the next video

[@shooshiMooshi]

NOTE THAT THIS IS A COPY PASTE OF MY REPLY TO THE PINNED COMMENT SINCE IT EXPLAINS A LOT hehe no yeah i need to make clear that EVERYTHING IM SAYING OR SPECULATING is on a MICRO scale. aka i’m focusing on only this video/film/scenario. i’m not speaking on a MACRO scale, aka ALL male victims of SA. i’ve always believed that men can get SA’d too. i just raised questions about the first night they EVER had sexual contact which was when the son was possibly 16-18 years of age. asking questions isn’t blaming the dad. just like how you’d ask questions if it came out that a 25 year old guy had intercourse with a 16-18 year old girl and then he says that she forced herself on him. i’m obviously still starting off on the 25 year olds side, but more information is needed just to be safe. info like was the younger person stronger than then, did they blackmail, manipulate etc. that specific night was left out of this movie unfortunately :/. but yeah after that night, it’s no longer a mystery that the dad is 100% innocent also yeah some of my jokes were tone deaf. when i said things like “grow a pair and beat him up/stop him”, i’m not saying that to ALL MALE VICTIMS IN *REAL LIFE*. i’m saying that more so to bully that monster of a “son” in this movie haha. i wanted the son to face consequences sooo bad. i have a habit of getting too hyper on stream because i want to entertain y’all, but i need to balance wanting to be an entertainer, and being mindful. because yeah my ACTUAL understanding and analysis of the video was ALWAYS that the dad is the victim and was simply afraid of his abuser and of public perception which is what happens to irl victims! male or female

[@whodis2614]

@@shooshiMooshi I completely understand where the jokes come from, it's just one of those situations where jokes feel gross in their own way because of what they're a response to. I also get wanting more clear cut info on what happened the first time, but I do believe that they get the point across without giving you too much. A bit of a '"how don't tell" if you will. It's also just a frustrating thing for me to watch someone not see something that I so easily can. I just also feel that some questions were asked in a way that subtley put some blame on the victim of this story, which is always uncomfortable to watch. Like I said, I'm a fan of your content, and I can't wait for the next video, I'm just saying this to express my point of view and some frustrations I had, and I want to help you by giving my feedback. I think that this one will just be one of those weird ones where the subject matter is so strange and horrific that people's feelings about it and your reactions and chat's reactions are going to be very varied and often emotional. I just found some of the jokes distasteful and some of the comments and questions made to be a bit too accusatory of the victim. Still I overall did enjoy this and enjoyed watching you piece some of the things together that you did catch.

[@AkachoOmulepu]

​@@shooshiMooshi Not a subscriber, I was just intrigued by the video title. Here to say you should just take accountability and apologize instead of turning it into a debate, trying to justify and explain away minutiae. You're making yourself look worse buddy.

[@nevaehhamilton3493]

​@@AkachoOmulepu that's not how the Internet works, buddy. If people apologize, it's always fake. If people have opinions, they're bullied for it. Victim blaming is disgusting, yes, but it's not as simple as asking someone to apologize. If you tell someone to apologize, they'll only double down on their stances, which will only add fuel to the fire. Remember what happened with Grey DeLisle and the whole AI fiasco? Everyone is to blame, because society as a whole is NOT ready for social media, and never will be.

[@AkachoOmulepu]

@@nevaehhamilton3493 alright then buddy. So, just critique and no actual suggestions? Got it!👌

[@Anime_enjoyer.08]

BRO IS THERE ANY GOOD WAY TO UNSEE EVERYTHING THAT I JUST SAW??😭😭💀😭

[@fredex10x]

Bleach

[@krumble_kat]

@@fredex10xperfect i did it know the pain went away 😎🔥🔥

[@caversisme]

​@@fredex10x Bleach?? No bro, this needs a straight up eye transplant 😭

[@fredex10x]

@@caversisme nah this needs a memory wipe off

[@BrewsBrownies]

@fredex10x imma need a whole new brain after this wtf 😭👍

[@Qishingsome_yellow]

Dude, I feel it's repulsive how you blame the father. The father is clearly the victim, and a victim, whatever his age and rank (father, mother, son, friend, etc.) is, they continue to have human feelings and behavior. Many people remain silent out of fear, so it is REASONABLE why the father let it happen and why he never did anything among the many times it happened. The son is shit, period, it bothers me that you agree with the son about placing the same amount of blame on the father. Like, WTF. You say you're on the father's side, but nothing you said or how you expressed yourself showed that. NOTHING. You use as a reason the fact that the boy was too young to do it, around 16-17 years old, but a monster like the one shown in the film can come from many ages. The son had feelings for his father and abused him. The father was traumatized to the fact that his OWN SON had touched him in that way, even the mother lets us know that the poor man felt guilty for allowing it, since the poor man was crying inside the bathroom still unable to believe what happened. Really, your reaction this time made me very angry. Very, very angry. Jesus. Edit: I read what you wrote in comments, but I still needed to get this out of my system because it gave me a lot of courage.

[@shooshiMooshi]

no yeah no worries. i apologize! trust me when i’m in private, my brain processes things better. on live i’m kinda hyper and say things jokingly too. like when i said “you’re gonna let a mf who says DIN DINS to that to you?”. that was me basically roasting the cringy son and was rooting for the dad to fight that mf. but i’ve learned now to just be a little more mindful on stream! i’m still new to live reacts tbh

[@penguin22penguin22]

he did NOT blame the father, it's just the fact it's poor parenting in the first place

[@Qishingsome_yellow]

@@penguin22penguin22 I can literally rewind the video and list the moments where he seems to agree and blame the father multiple times for an issue in which he is the victim. Although, the fact that he realizes his mistake makes me see that he is sorry and that he will be careful when reacting problematic videos like this one. It's a great advance, don't be stupid. And, by the way, it's barely been an hour and you already have a like? You liked yourself, didn't you? how sad, get a life.

[@alugirl93]

It was bothering me the whole time

[@BubblyxBri]

@penguin22penguin22 How is it poor parenting your acting like the father knew that he was later gonna become a victim to his own son the father didn’t teach his son to take advantage of him the dad is the victim!!

[@AyumiUzumaki-lz3uk]

You shouldn't say "grow some balls" to a SA victim ngl but that just me idk

[@rainaaes]

fr

[@Kokichi318]

Jesus Christ, I've heard of a father raping his son, but the other way around, I don't even know how to explain it. Edit: How tf did I get a like from shooshi and a 142 likes ;-;

[@Transgender_rebel_freak]

Both of our profile photos are of Kokichi 😭

[@ferns_lake]

I’m shiuchi 🙏

[@Kokichi318]

@@Transgender_rebel_freak lol

[@kentucky_fc]

I think its supposed to be a metaphor of what happens when the roles are inverted

[@maybemints]

Ummm well Chris chan did it sooo idk there's an example I guess

[@ItsMissSarcastrophe]

The whole 'It's the dad's fault' or "dad should have done/said something' that has been going on is not it for me. Also, waaay to many people victim blaming in the comments and chat. Shooshi, i get that you're on the dad's side and all and just 'trying to be funny', but my god, you said some really nasty stuff here that I can't look past as a sa victim. I couldn't even finish the video.

[@EternallyLoved365]

Yeah, nothing about this was funny 😓

[@MYKIEONG]

Instead of the dad saying something, it should've been the mother that should say something. I mean...she literally KNEW what they were doing and still kept quiet

[@aliensexparty]

What were they saying, I couldn’t find any of their chats 😧

[@mwamewri]

this is the first video i watched from this channel and uh... yeah.

[@Stardyn1ght]

ONG ME TOO BRO, this is the first vid I watch of this guy, and this is the first impression I get of him??? Its so wrong wtf ​@@mwamewri

[@DensenbyoOFFC]

I know it's messed up and stuff but Jesus the acting is good. Also in the scene before the dad died he was manipulating him trying to make him feel at fault for his actions. It wasn't love like he said it was, it was just abuse and manipulation so he could live out his disgusting fantasy.