The distinction between advaita, dvaita & Vishishtadvaita (May 2017)

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@r.5664
@r.5664 6 жыл бұрын
Yes . Ultimately exploring godliness hidden within us is the aim . Unveiling this truth with conviction is not an easy job . But getting engaged with satsang in different ways like thru bhakti, karma (helping others to rise) and regular guidelines from the work of great saints can lead us to the hidden divinity within us . Thanks for this wonderful discourse.
@srinivasanr7817
@srinivasanr7817 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent illustration of 3 concepts. Pranam🙏🙏🙏
@mad-bhaktimlabhateparam2592
@mad-bhaktimlabhateparam2592 4 жыл бұрын
4:56 - you cannot use the term "Yes we are all God" when speaking about Vishisadvaita, Ramanuja or any genuine follower of Vishishadvaita would recoil upon hearing such a thing 🙏
@Dharmicaction
@Dharmicaction 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Fake interpretation of original Advaitha by non existent Ramanuja (fake back dated creation by colonialists like how they created non existent madhavacharya) to promote blind bakthi movement which can ape blind faith organized religions like Abrahamic religions
@soumitakar1008
@soumitakar1008 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dharmicaction dont speak when u dont know
@geetha.k3484
@geetha.k3484 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dharmicaction Madhvacharya is hanuman himself. You say he is fake so practically your devotion towards god is fake as u clearly say (indirectly) that ramayana and mahabharata are fake...
@rakshit5944
@rakshit5944 2 жыл бұрын
​@@Dharmicaction What if, if i say Adi Shankaracharya was a fake and fictious personality created by the colonists? How would you feel ? What proof you have that Madhvacharya and Ramanuja are fake ? Stop speaking nonsensical baseless arguments without knowing a tinge of history
@bharath.s2565
@bharath.s2565 4 жыл бұрын
We have proud to understand our vedanta
@Shivaaykiduniya
@Shivaaykiduniya 5 жыл бұрын
What a powerful voice...i am fan of u
@31b_saujanyamitra31
@31b_saujanyamitra31 4 жыл бұрын
Brahman and Parabrahman are entirely different. We are Brahman and God( KRSNA) is Parabrahman. We are spiritual sparks of the SUPREME LORD KRISHNA. As we are marginal energy of the LORD, the jiva-atma is very much vulnerable. It is therefore fallible. But it is not the case of Parabrahman. The Parabrahman is infallible, Master of MAYA( material energy) and the spirit-souls(jiva-atma).
@sanadmalhotra8250
@sanadmalhotra8250 4 жыл бұрын
Srabana Mitra you mean krishna is supreriot than brahman? if yes? please let me know more about it.
@31b_saujanyamitra31
@31b_saujanyamitra31 4 жыл бұрын
@@sanadmalhotra8250 of course KRSNA is superior than BRAHMAN. When you refer to KRSNA you refer to PARABRAHMAN
@Dharmicaction
@Dharmicaction 3 жыл бұрын
@@31b_saujanyamitra31 Duality of athma and paramathma can be created only by an egoistic mind just like how monotheistic Abrahamic religions were created. Too many fake interpretations of original Advaitha and Dvaitha were created by the colonizers using non existent figures like Ramanuja and Madhavacharya to promote blind bakthi movement which can mimic blind faith Abrahamic religions. The motive of colonizers was to create an organized religion like Abrahamic religions to control people. The truth is Advaitha (non dual athma= brahman) and Dvaitha (dual shakthi but only in combination with non dual athma) are incomplete without each other. This is Sankhya vedic metaphysics which can be validated by logic, experiment (double slit quantum experiment) and embodied experience (focus + meditation) Why athman = brahman? It is because without the immanent and conscious athma nothing exists or nothing can be perceived in its current form or no duality cycles can happen. Moreover, immanent Athma is NOT the doer even though it is the conscious observer and experiencer. So, athman = brahman.
@geetha.k3484
@geetha.k3484 2 жыл бұрын
The supreme power (i.e., krushna) is addressed as bramha or parabramha. They are synonyms..... Para denotes supremacy.... God and supreme god what's the difference??
@varunv2584
@varunv2584 2 жыл бұрын
Brahman and Parabrahman are the same thing loool
@vegetarianninja
@vegetarianninja 6 жыл бұрын
Ignore the negative comments here... edit... ignore negative people, always. Her explaination is sufficiently adequate for a first understanding. Thank you.
@shrinathm.g.8183
@shrinathm.g.8183 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Sanjay ji, You need to listen to masters of other philosophy as well, to make a learned opinion.
@sk-tn4gz
@sk-tn4gz 5 жыл бұрын
I am certain she is speaking to people not so well versed in Vedas and has to constrict her delivery in the interest of limited time. Overall Thank you for the Great Content. I am blessed to hear the pravachan.
@shrinathm.g.8183
@shrinathm.g.8183 4 жыл бұрын
Wrong interpretation by the presenter of other philosophies
@TheGuiltsOfUs
@TheGuiltsOfUs 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@samvitpatil6607
@samvitpatil6607 5 жыл бұрын
Dvaitins know that they are one with God?!!! Lol. Have you ever met a Dvaitin? In Dvaita, the soul is not God, never considered to be equal.
@ratipati2007
@ratipati2007 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, Dvaita's position is that Brahman is different (bEdha) from Jiva(s). Brahman is independent reality (svatantra) while all jIvas and Jada-vastu are dependent reality. The speaker of this video is quite uneducated on the things.
@bajrangsingh1149
@bajrangsingh1149 4 жыл бұрын
Ja vyakti ko bodh hota hai apna sahi me to wo dicrminatte nahi Kar pata apne me aur kisi aur cheez me so at that point Brahma satyam jagat mithya.....
@majedargyan2118
@majedargyan2118 4 жыл бұрын
The problem is these don't read anything before presenting. Just present it who cares. First of all Shankara's school is not known as Advaita its name is Mayavada and MADWA's phylogeny is not Dwaita it s name is Tatva Vada . These people should quote the references then we can understand the extent of their knowledge so that we can believe
@thephilosophermma8449
@thephilosophermma8449 4 жыл бұрын
Are there even any Dvaitin Hindu in this world I see none , almost all follow Advaita
@majedargyan2118
@majedargyan2118 4 жыл бұрын
@@thephilosophermma8449 I am Dvaita follower further you can find lakhs of devotees in Karnataka Tamil Nadu and Andra, Telangana..
@learningwithabhinav21
@learningwithabhinav21 4 жыл бұрын
So nice..
@gyaneshwarsahu3143
@gyaneshwarsahu3143 6 жыл бұрын
Radhe Radhe
@sandroneves.domandoamente
@sandroneves.domandoamente 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@yogeswaranand7849
@yogeswaranand7849 6 жыл бұрын
Nice analysis
@Sumit-sp1fr
@Sumit-sp1fr 4 жыл бұрын
◄ Psalm 82:6 ► International Version "I said, 'You are "gods"; you are all sons of the Most High.'
@AxViki
@AxViki 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@HikariLala
@HikariLala 4 жыл бұрын
i dont see big difference ?
@majedargyan2118
@majedargyan2118 4 жыл бұрын
Because you are listening from a person who herself is confused. 😁😁😁
@uddhavmahale3620
@uddhavmahale3620 5 жыл бұрын
Pranam Ma & Swamiji
@gulabjamun6897
@gulabjamun6897 4 жыл бұрын
Vedanta-End of Veda are Upanishads,seen as a essence of Vedas. From Upanishads teaching of vedanta comes,in that teaching Advaita comes,which was taught by shankaracharya.There is one nothing but God.No distinction between devotee and object of devotion.Any sense of distinction is illusion.The wave itself is an illusion.Its maya,there is nothing but God.No form,no names,attributless existence. Vashisht advaita-Ramanuja charya-Oneness with unique qualities,That God is not attributless there are attributes of God. Wave is attributes of ocean. Finite depends upon infinite.Body and soul relation.Devotion Dvaita-Devotion of separateness,Lover of the Beloved.Path rooted in Love of God by devotee.Different paths of loving God.God is different.Its live of distinct divine being.Bhakti yoga.Different ways of devotion. Shankaracharya-Gyan of knowledge,Gyanyoga. What matters is we connect.Gives innumerable different way to connect to God. Know it and leave it. Bhakti and devotion,through devotion God will be Discovered,which is in ourself only.
@ratipati2007
@ratipati2007 4 жыл бұрын
Very wrong idea at the very beginning of the talk. This speaker says 'Vedanta' means 'end of sum of teachings of Veda'. The term 'anta' does not mean 'end'. In Bhagavt Gita, Bhagvan Veda Vyasa was described as 'vEdAnta krit'. If you go by advaitic meaning of 'anta' means 'end, then the Gita's description becomes Vyasa as the 'terminator of Veda'!!! What a joke!! . So, the correct meaning of 'Vedaanta' should be understood as 'essance of Vedas'. Since Brahma Sutras's role is to deterministically fix the meaning Veda (tatva-nischhaya), they are called 'Vedanta shastra'. Since Vyasa is author of B.Sutra, Geeta is describing Him as 'Vedanta-krit'. This is the correct meaning given by One and Only Acharaya Madhva!
@ShubhamThakur-uk5vf
@ShubhamThakur-uk5vf 3 жыл бұрын
🙏🙏
@madhu0755
@madhu0755 3 жыл бұрын
Jeevatma and paramatma are different from.each other.
@anandg.r5548
@anandg.r5548 5 жыл бұрын
Very naive explanation... Complete incorrect narration of Dwaita school of thought !!
@waldwassermann
@waldwassermann 3 жыл бұрын
it's all good
@bennguyen1313
@bennguyen1313 5 жыл бұрын
So the Vedanta (summary of the 4 vedas (Rig, Yajur, Sama and Atharva) / upanishads*) teaches advaita.. not-two, i.e. oneness, no separation between God/Self... VishishtAdvaita is Advaita but adds uniqueness, like the ocean and waves analogy. Dvaita/Bhedavāda, Tattvavāda / Bimbapratibimbavād also recognizes oneness with uniqueness, but emphasizes the devotion of the "ocean" in order to understand Veda? *Each Veda is comprised of 4 parts Samhita/Mantra/Hymns, Brahmana/ritual, Aranyaka/philosophy/Sannyasa and Upanishad/essence. Each Veda part is understood via 6 Vedanga limbs (Jyotisha, Vyakarana, Chhandas, shikShA,kalpa and nirukta)
@ratipati2007
@ratipati2007 4 жыл бұрын
@Ben Nguyen , The speaker of this video is quite uneducated on the things. Dvaita's position is that Brahman is different (bEdha) from Jiva(s). Brahman is independent reality (svatantra sat) while all jIvas and Jada-vastu are dependent reality. See my another reply on the term 'Vedanta'. The speaker is all wrong at the very beginning of video when she says Vedanta means 'end of Vedas'. Quite laughable.
@Dharmicaction
@Dharmicaction 3 жыл бұрын
Ben Nguyen Both Madhvacharya and Ramanuja (and their fake intepretations of original Dvaitha and Advaitha) were fake creations of colonialists to promote blind bakthi movement which can mimic organized Abrahamic religions. Their motive was to control people during colonialism through a blind religion (one more way to control people in addition to discrimination and starvation). Point is Advaitha (non dual athma) and Dvaitha (dual shakthi but only in combination with non dual and immanent athma) are incomplete without each other. This is Sankhya vedic metaphyscis which can be validated by experiment (double slit quantum experiment) and embodied experience (focus + meditation)
@kesavatadipatri9078
@kesavatadipatri9078 3 жыл бұрын
This is perfect ignorance of all the three schools.
@gr9949
@gr9949 4 жыл бұрын
Fully wrongly illustrated and it end with the cheat. It’s fully misappropriation. Even not clear what’s gnyaan is then how go further with science. Very pity on you.
@KarthikGurudewa108
@KarthikGurudewa108 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry u entirely wrong about vishisadvaita n dvaitha, get ur facts RIGHT 🕉🕉🕉🕉🙏
@majedargyan2118
@majedargyan2118 4 жыл бұрын
They don't read things before presenting.. Idiotic explanations, Those Gurus might also laughing listening to her. She made her own vedanta in the name of Ramanuja and Madwacharya.
@Dharmicaction
@Dharmicaction 3 жыл бұрын
@@majedargyan2118 Just like how non existent Ramanuja and Madhvacharya made their own fake metaphysics by misinterpreting original Advaitha and Dvaitha? Point is the whole blind bakthi movement was created by colonialists to promote an organized religion like Abrahamic religions. The motive of colonizers was to control people using organized bakthi cults. The truth is Advaitha (non dual athma) and Dvaitha (dual shakthi but only in combination with non dual athma) are incomplete without each other. This is Sankhya vedic metaphysics.
@shraddhananda733
@shraddhananda733 5 жыл бұрын
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@narayanaswamyrao2695
@narayanaswamyrao2695 2 жыл бұрын
I am a follower of Dwaita vedanta of Madhwa. So to say Ramanujas visishta vedanta nothing but replica of Adi shankaras Advaitha.
@rajasrinivasan
@rajasrinivasan 2 жыл бұрын
She is basically talking about Advaita only. Advaita is basically modified Buddhism. Lord Buddha disowned the Vedas, and Adi Sankara wanted people to realize the true nature of Knowledge. He had to be careful when he preached the greatness of Veda, since 95% of Indians were Buddhists at that time. Remember Ramanuja came 200 years after Adi Sankara and he took Vedanta a little bit further. Then came Madhvacarya and Chaitanya and others. This journey from Advaita to Vishishitadvaita to Dvaita reflects the progress of Vedantic philosophy. Without this understanding of history comparing the three philosophies is meaningless.
@indra1489
@indra1489 4 жыл бұрын
Advaita is nonsense buddism, only dvaita is the real truth...or vaishnavism...
@Dharmicaction
@Dharmicaction 3 жыл бұрын
If u say advaitha is nonsense then you say Shiva which is immanent (athma), transcendent and omnipresent is nonsense. I am sure your confusion is caused by the wrong interpretation of Maya by some ADVAITHA followers who say that that it is the illusion through which Brahman falsely appears as the universe. Original Advaitha does not say that. it just says the illusion (false identification with thoughts and body by immanent shiva is caused by Maya but it does NOT mean Maya = illusion. What is Maya? Maya is the creative shakthi of shiva. So, it is absolutely real. It means the material realm is also real. Original Dvaitha also does not say that athman is different from brahman. It just talks about duality of Shakthi (but only in combination with non dual shvia). Point is without the immanent athma nothing exists or nothing can be perceived in its current form or no duality cycles can happen. So, the immanent athma is the conscious observer, experiencer even though not the doer. So, athman = Brahman This is SANKHYA vedic metaphysics which combines Advaitha and Dvaitha. Advaitha and Dvaitha are incomplete without each other. In other words, Shiva and Shakthi always exist together for the perpetual duality cycles to happen. Sankhya vedic metaphysics can be validated by logic, experiment (double slit quantum experiment) and embodied experience (focus + meditation)
@lokeshgowrishofficial6154
@lokeshgowrishofficial6154 3 жыл бұрын
Dvaitha no 1
@leolion9155
@leolion9155 Жыл бұрын
Philosophies were made by darshanas, If the human flow like yugas life death etc laws were seen by visionaries ,if it is true if we felt visions are nothing but life,There is no perfect Philosophy ever to save mankind,here nothing stops for something like friendship relations death life anything,every selfish human concious is black magic,definition of god is taking grave faults of others not making business with ignorance this is the only law we have to realize if we want to see the God.politics are evergreen blackmagic,selfish friend also blackmagic, who left someone by feared to death also black magic,even hell heaven may cheat with magic the pain that always try to change both good and bad that is infinite wisdom .
@aayushagarwal9276
@aayushagarwal9276 4 жыл бұрын
Pointless propaganda
@siddarthmahajan8857
@siddarthmahajan8857 3 жыл бұрын
त्रैतवाद पर विचार रखे जो की सत्य वैदिक सिद्धांत है
@endlessuniverse9312
@endlessuniverse9312 3 жыл бұрын
क्रीप्या आप विवरण कर बता ने की कृपा करे।🙏
@siddarthmahajan8857
@siddarthmahajan8857 3 жыл бұрын
@@endlessuniverse9312 नमस्ते, ईश्वर, जीव और प्रकृती ये तीनो सृष्टीके अनादी सत्ताए है इसिको त्रैतवाद कहते है कृपया इसपर विचार रखे 🙏
@endlessuniverse9312
@endlessuniverse9312 3 жыл бұрын
@@siddarthmahajan8857 पृकृति क्या हे? ये रहस्य से क्यू भरी हुई हे? प्रकृती को केसे समज सकते हे? पृकृति की व्याख्या क्या हे? प्रकृती क्या अनंत हे?
@sanny2k2
@sanny2k2 6 жыл бұрын
She hasn't understood the three schools of thought, but only pretending to know. Very incorrect explanation.
@maryreilly9926
@maryreilly9926 5 жыл бұрын
respect!
@treatseaweed
@treatseaweed 6 жыл бұрын
These people cannot understand Vishistadvaita. These are mundane useless talks.
@Dharmicaction
@Dharmicaction 3 жыл бұрын
No sensible and logical person who look for validation can because it is fake. Ramanuja was a fake backdated creation of colonialists just like how they created Madhvacharya and his fake interpretation of original Dvaitha out of thin air. Colonizers wanted to create blind bakthi movement to mimic organized Abrahamic religions and control people.
@treatseaweed
@treatseaweed 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dharmicaction You are insane.
@VarunSharma-pp5rg
@VarunSharma-pp5rg 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dharmicaction the most insane thing that I have ever heard. All the three acaraya's philosophies are deeply rooted in the vedas/ upanishads and the bhagvad geeta. You can choose to follow whichever path you like. Are you saying bhagavad Geeta was also created by colonialists? Are you saying Krishna Himself is wrong? Don't forget sanatan dharma is a living "tradition" and not a stagnant one. So if you are still stuck in your same old pond, by the looks of it, it has started collecting dirt. Needs some cleaning.
@ganesansankarraman5638
@ganesansankarraman5638 5 жыл бұрын
These foreigners are selfish people having the pretensions of knowing Vedanta. It is a dull lecture meant for money making.
@SethRamesh
@SethRamesh 4 жыл бұрын
Main steam is advaita (Most followers) and Vishishtadvaita. Dvaita is followed by very few - Mainly the cult of ISKCON
@Sumit-sp1fr
@Sumit-sp1fr 4 жыл бұрын
Christanity, Judaism and Islam is all about devaita means dualism they say you are God but not almighty God
@sandipmitra9574
@sandipmitra9574 4 жыл бұрын
Btw iskcon is a gaudiya Vaishnava institution and it follows achintya bheda bhed
@sandipmitra9574
@sandipmitra9574 4 жыл бұрын
@@Sumit-sp1fr dvaita of madhvacharya is Vedic and dvaita of Abrahamics is avedic
@Dharmicaction
@Dharmicaction 3 жыл бұрын
@@sandipmitra9574 Madhavacharya and Ramanuja were just back dated creations of colonialists to promote blind bakthi movement which can mimic Abrahamic religions. The motive of colonizers was to create an organized religion (like Abrahamic religions) to control people. Original Dvaitha does not say duality of athma and original Advaitha does not say maya = illusion. Point is Advaitha (non dual athma) and Dvaitha (dual shakthi but only in combination with non dual athma) are INCOMPLETE without each other. This is Sankhya vedic metaphysics. Sankhya can be validated by logic, experiment (double slit quantum experiment) and embodied experience (focus + meditation).
@Dharmicaction
@Dharmicaction 3 жыл бұрын
@ Seth Ramesh Vishishadvaitha by non existent Ramanuja was just a fake interpretation of original Advaitha just like non existent madhavacharya's fake intepretation of original Dvaitha to promote blind bakthi movement which can mimic blind faith Abrahamic religions. Colonialists wanted it so that they can control people like organized religions.
@jaynelamangala5666
@jaynelamangala5666 5 жыл бұрын
This is a very rudimentary talk. This is what happens when one talks about God, without talking Veda first. God is a concept that belongs to Veda and hence comes from Veda . So, before talking anything related to 'God' one should present Veda which taught it to him/her. Otherwise, it will all be human speculations on what philosophy should be. If Veda is lost, Brahman is lost. It is as simple as that. If Veda is ignored, Brahman is ignored. To talk about God without Veda, is like a blind man talking about green color, which is a mere word for him. Vedaanta is the final meaning that comes out of a study of Veda. When Veda itself is missing, what 'vedAnta' are we talking about anyways ?. JayakrishNa Nelamangala
@shrinathm.g.8183
@shrinathm.g.8183 4 жыл бұрын
Appreciate your intent, but incorrect brief about Dvaita philosophy.
@shrinathm.g.8183
@shrinathm.g.8183 4 жыл бұрын
Adviata uses " Vedanta" but bases philosophy on Upanishats and not Vedas?
@Dharmicaction
@Dharmicaction 3 жыл бұрын
@@shrinathm.g.8183 Madhavacharya did not exist
@shrinathm.g.8183
@shrinathm.g.8183 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dharmicaction haha, haha, who else doesn't exist??
@vijayasimhan.s.8483
@vijayasimhan.s.8483 5 жыл бұрын
Advaita is the only relevant way, GOD, creation and real self.merge at a point only then we know the truth ,but to know this truth we should be ready to risk everything even personality.unless we have 100% of vairagya and Viveka,we can never know the truth, only when boon and curse becomes equal we never realise.
@rupahegde1
@rupahegde1 2 жыл бұрын
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