The Disturbing Elder Scrolls "Iceberg" Conspiracies Explained

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[@critespranberry8872]

"And in skyrim you play as this idiot." I've never heard a more apt description of the Dragonborn

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[@jakecarlson3709]

Vigilant in particular has some incredibly epic boss fights and really cool takes on the daedric realms

[@markoni2536]

@@jakecarlson3709 deadric is the most poverfull in the but i didnt play dlc so i i realy cant know who is the most powerful.

[@Furzkampfbomber]

I really don't know if this question fits here, but your comment provoked it, so I leave it here in hopes you guys can make something of it. Apart from the Dragonborn being an idiot, how is he not bound to destroy or at least subjugate the world? As I understand it, he has the soul of a dragon and he consumed lots of dragon souls on top of it - and dragons are depicted as having this deep, inherent craving and lust for power, destruction and violence. Wasn't there even an especially powerful dragon who removed himself from the world in order to keep it safe from him? So how is he not bound to inevitably get overwhelmed by all of this and turns evil?

[@rabbitcreative]

@@Furzkampfbomber > So how is he not bound to inevitably get overwhelmed by all of this and turns evil? He is bound to do those things. After destroying all of Nirn, he moved to Earth, and changed his name to Klaus Schwab.

[@joshuabillings5108]

One thing I think everyone overlooks is that the Dwemer had the Dragon Elder Scroll in their possession when they vanished. The same Scroll that sent alduin forward in time.

[@darwinbwe4060]

Did the Dwemer get sent forward, or back though, is the question.

[@dirpyturtle69]

@@darwinbwe4060 if they were sent back the race would still be in the games

[@adamkaris]

@@dirpyturtle69 depends on how far back.

[@thalmoragent9344]

@@adamkaris Nah, we have documentation of the Dawn Era so, unless they got tossed into a previous Kalpa, which I'm sure isn't possible as the Kalpa keeps moving forward, well... the past "Kalpa" is now gone and doesn't exist. And if they even did, Dwemer would unravel back to our time regardless, unless they died off as a race at the same time they disappeared at Red Mountain which means... gone either way

[@vetricanthbarrhead3055]

@@thalmoragent9344 maybe they went back to the previous Kalpa, into nonexistence. Or the next, or caused a timeline split

[@RKGrizz]

The Dreugh didn't rule Nirn thousands of years ago, they ruled it in a previous kalpa cycle. In other words they ruled Nirn in a previous cycle of creation and destruction of the universe in a totally different time.

[@nouhorni3229]

...so they still ruled nirn. thousands of years ago. And Molag Baal was their king back then, so it's never complete destruction anyway. Just mixing up the playing field.

[@RKGrizz]

@@nouhorni3229 if time is reset is it even the same time line? You won't be able to find any old dreugh ruins because it all got wiped away in the reset.

[@BonePapi]

Alduin you naughty boy

[@babyfaec]

@@RKGrizz how do the dreugh exist then?

[@RKGrizz]

@@babyfaec They were created again during the new Kalpa?

[@MC3pk]

One thing to note is that The Reaper is fought in the Soul Cairn which itself is a plane of oblivion so its most certainly is a daedric entity, hence the daedric heart it drops.

[@FranklyGaming]

Yep makes total sense good point, thanks for watching by the way means a lot!

[@n.quicke4822]

also you need to have reaper soul gem fragments to get him to spawn you cant just go to the tower

[@yari4046]

on the whole rorikstead thing, it seems to me like bethesda had planned a side quest that deals with the whole daedra thing but it probably got scrapped, which makes sense because rorikstead is one of the few places in the game that has very few quests attached to it

[@Epelpaj]

I think Rorikstead only has like two quests connected to it

[@oomphlagwumpla650]

@@Epelpaj wait Rorikstead have quests?

[@Epelpaj]

@OOMPHLA GWUMPLA Rorikstead gives out only one quest: Erik the Slayer. And I think only involves two other ones: A Night To Remember, In My Time Of Need. So three in total

[@theonlybilge]

It's pretty obvious that there was going to be a quest.

[@lchristen5958]

Lokir the first person that you see die in Skyrim is from Rorikstead

[@olafharlender]

As an obsessive Elder Scrolls deep lore enjoyer it's really refreshing to hear a more straightforward and to the point explanation of these topics. Seems like a really good starting-off point for anyone who's looking to get into TES lore theories w/o all the nitty-gritty details that other creators present.

[@noblebojack]

do you have any channel recomendation to learn more about the lore?

[@olafharlender]

​@@noblebojack I actually do have some I think are worth checking out, here they are: FudgeMuppet, they have a big backlog of lore content, not to mention, they're also hosting a podcast about TES (also character build ideas for Skyrim) TheEpicNate315, videos on theories surrounding more mysterious parts of the lore (semi-active) Camelworks, (VERY) long-form videos about various topics mainly pertaining to Skyrim, "Curating Curious Curiosities" series is a must-watch Imperial Knowledge, focused strictly on documenting Elder Scrolls lore For more casual lore and story tidbits I also recommend checking out LeftoverPat and Avarti Also, also ShoddyCast has a 43 episode long series on TES Lore, as well as a smaller ten part piece on Skyrim

[@noblebojack]

@@olafharlender thanks

[@danielbroome5690]

By far the most deep lore nuts theory is that the towers across Nirn hold reality together like locks and that the high elves want to revert to spirit beings and are slowly trying to destroy the towers to facilitate the destruction of reality. We KNOW several of the towers have stopped working, but we don't know how many are still in operation. Another interesting theory is of course that the ban of Talos worship wasn't a religious disagreement, but rather them trying to make Talos's powers dry up and he would fade from existence through lack of worship.

[@wintertrooper7918]

I think the only 'tower' still in operation is the adamantine spire in high rock

[@_Dovar_]

There is an in-game book "The Book of Dragonborn" in Skyrim, which describes the Prophecy of the Last Dragonborn that speaks of the fall of the four great towers bringing about the return of Alduin.

[@john-doemcalias4759]

Talos was just another shezzarine, even if he is forgotten lorkhan will just be mantled again. Apotheosis is a bitch like that. The tower reset is just a way to undo the work of the aedra and reverse lorkhans trick of creation. Edit: the fact that mundus is basically the realm of lorkhan proves the elves will fail. No mundus no games lol. What would be cool is a subplot where magnus and the magna gi interfere to stop reality unraveling. This could undo their accidental act of allowing magic to flow into the world from the higher planes thereby causing a catastrophe of a different kind. Perhaps stripping the elves of their overwhelming magical advantage. Just an interesting thought

[@thesun5275]

"Dwemer were peaceful" pardon? Dwemer had plenty of wars even among themselves for selfish reasons, biggest example that comes to mind was the etherium wars which started as collaboration but quickly fell apart when different factions wanted to control the entire supply to the entire race. They were far from peaceful. They just didnt often interact with outsiders. Passive in world affairs, but passivity doesn't mean peaceful

[@cpl.geckell6355]

They’re even brutal from a societal standpoint. I wouldn’t exactly say that tricking, blinding and enslaving almost an entire race of refugees constitutes peaceful action

[@MellSayzHi]

Not to mention they enslaved, and experimented on an entire race of Mer to the point their bodies, brains, and souls devolved into borderline animals

[@brodofraggins4688]

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[@lostliberty9913]

True. 👍

[@deuzige8860]

It's true then.... Proof of Stake will cause a war... i knew it! Darned tree hugging hippies whining about a bit of electricity all the time. We should've chopped their tree down and let it fall on top of em huggerz

[@thalmoragent9344]

The Story behind the Snow Elves and the tragic neglect of Lore behind/surrounding them had me captivated for so long. What happened that Night of Tears, what happened between the races well before the situation came to blows, as well as the Artifacts of Auriel and Magnus being all in Skyrim. And Skyrim's possible connection to "Altmora, the Elderwood," and how that combats the Nordic claims. As well as the Dawn Era and how the Et'Ada went about the situation before Lorkhan's treachery

[@steveisthecommissar4013]

I think it could be cool to have a game set in the period

[@thalmoragent9344]

@@steveisthecommissar4013 Yep, or a mini-movie series if Bethesda allies with a Studio or something, make animated or CGI films over the story of the Snow Elves in the Merethic Era up to Gelebor in the 4th Era

[@Super50ldier]

@@thalmoragent9344 Get over it already, the Snow Elves demise is not a big deal

[@thalmoragent9344]

@@Super50ldier It is a big deal, the First War between Man and Mer in Tamriel after the Dawn Era is a HUGE big deal. The arrival of Nords into Tamriel is very important, and considering the wars of Man and Mer in the Late Merethic and early First Era's... hell, even against themselves, as we know the Nords slaughtered Reachmen just as they did Snow Elves, and even butchered many Bretons for a time. The Nordic Genocides if Northern Tamrielic is a big deal mate, but ya know....

[@Super50ldier]

@@thalmoragent9344 That was not the first war, the first war between Humans and Elves was the one in the Dawn Era, the War of Manifest Metaphors or Human-Elven War as I like to call it was waged between the Gods of Humans and Wandering Ehlnofey and Humans lead by both Lorkhan and Akatosh and the Gods of Elves and Old Ehlnofey and Elves lead by both Auri-El and Trinimac.

[@MacinteuchPlus]

Hey there, loved the video, but a few points, the dwemer have never really been known for their kindness or benevolence, they're pretty much a group of cold, calculating scientists, for whom ethics are nothing more than a formality at best, also Oblivion really isn't comparable to hell for us, same with the Daedra and demons, as Daedra are a manifestation of chaos/change through the entity known as Padomay, whereas Aedra are a mix of both Padomay and Anu's blood (save for Lorkhan, who is also a force of change), so technically Oblivion isn't necessarily "evil", just represents the original chaos

[@FranklyGaming]

Great points and thanks for the heads up, appreciate the support by the way!

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[@sheogorathprinceofmadness2223]

So... Tartarus? I mean, to say Oblivion is Hell doesn't seem like a far-stretch. I guess it depends on how you view the concept of "Hell".

[@MacinteuchPlus]

@@sheogorathprinceofmadness2223 Oblivion planes aren't necessarily used as endless suffering for their denizens, rather those who inhabit it are followers of various daedric princes, some planes are definitely hellish though, like Dagon or Molag Bal's planes are objectively horrible and straight up a bad time, but others are more grey in nature like Meridia's, Sheogorath's or straight up good (too good maybe since it makes mortals half blind from its beauty) like Azura's

[@FearOfTheDarkS312]

Kinda nuts how Elder Scrolls has the portrait of a high fantasy but that shit is grimdark down to the core in all actuality. Anyone interested in seeing the lore at more face value, I recommend Vicn’s Glenmoril, Unslaad and Vigilant quest mods. They’re obviously not canon design and look-wise but they really do delve into some of the real darker elder scrolls lore, like the real stuff. The mods do take some liberties but all the quests and storylines are based off actual lore.

[@FranklyGaming]

I’ll have to check these out because ya the elder scrolls lore can get really dark and interesting, thanks for supporting my channel!

[@stift9977]

Its not like bethesda doesn't take liberties with the lore

[@selectionn]

this shit is my little pony tier compared to Warhammer 40k or even fantasy. I do hope they take a darker more mature tone with the next elder scrolls though.

[@honeybadger6275]

@@selectionn Nah, they'll continue the trend of every game they've made since morrowind of making it more boring and shallow.

[@lucid_77]

@@honeybadger6275 from what I can understand, they have simplified the rpg sandbox aspect each game since morrowind, but also improved the gameplay aspects, this is done to make the game more attractive to a wider mainstream audience and honestly I don't mind it. I see a lot of people always hating on oblivion and Skyrim for this reason but I enjoyed both the games, it doesn't necessarily have to go that much in depth of rpg to be an enjoyable game. The elders scrolls is a game franchise always surrounded by modders, Bethesda should focus on the quality over quantity, the modders will fill the gap for what the community really wants

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[@SPFLDAngler]

Any channel that does “iceberg” videos usually has very little subscribers and fewer views on videos. They use the iceberg format to try and get more attention.

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@@SPFLDAngler damn right we do lol, thanks for watching rhubartu ❤️

[@corripiocruo]

on one of the first topics, that of the Dreugh and their domain over Nirn, it would have probably helped the entry if you had mentioned the kalpic cycles. the Dreugh ruled over Nirn in a previous kalpa, and it is implied in the 36 Lessons that even wackier shit happened in previous kalpas. that's why their vast civilization has no remnant or memory; the world reset and the parameters for the re-establishment of the domain of the Dreugh were not met in the current kalpa.

[@FranklyGaming]

Totally agree will look to do it in future entries for sure, thanks a ton for the feedback by the way it helps me get better and I appreciate the support!

[@Forbidden_Chocolate]

my favorite bit of elder scrolls lore is CHIM & zero-sum. CHIM is a state of being that grants an individual unlimited access to manipulate the Aurbis or the very fabric of reality however they see fit. To achieve CHIM is to understand that you and everything else is merely a dream of a sleeping god while also retaining your individuality in the process, failing to retain individuality would result in zero summing in other words you pop out of existence.

[@teslashark]

Not a sleeping god, a sleeping Michael Kirkbride

[@OpasgegenLinks]

@@teslashark Finally someone who knows his facts.

[@Forbidden_Chocolate]

@@teslashark so that's what the godhead is called.. How majestic 😂

[@teslashark]

@@Forbidden_Chocolate He's the writer for 1, 3, 4, guest writer of 5, and mission designer for some more.

[@terrelldurocher3330]

​@@teslasharkshit he is lorkhan

[@raitoiro]

51:30 Dagon seems more likely. That town is a very obvious reference to one of Lovecraft's story: "The Shadow over Innsmouth". In that story the town of Innsmouth is in a very similar situation and part of the reason is due to the villagers worshipping an elder being called Dagon.

[@wintertrooper7918]

Sloads are actually in themselves a reference to Lovecraft

[@syphonfillter]

17:50 There are problems with this idea. Most notably, there are argonians we meet in TES iv oblivion who aren't going back to Blackmarsh or who mention or seem concerned about some kind of call - even those we know hail from Blackmarsh. Its not even in the rumours in Oblivion, it only shows up *after* TES iv. That seems like a very weird omission, and suggests that it was an embellishment after the fact, or only applied to select individuals and was small scale enough to have gone unnoticed. The entire known Argonian narrative surrounding the Oblivion crisis should be treated with suspicion; Everything from the supposedly successful invasion of Oblivion to the hist calling everyone home etc finds its origins as a sort of national myth put out by the An-Xileel, who were basically the Argonian Thalmor (They went so far as to desire to purge and exterminate all those 'assimilated' argonians, that is to say argonians with foreign customs, such as those born in other provinces). In that respect its not dissimilar to the claims put out by the Thalmor. Also, other people did foresee the oblivion crisis, we get multiple prophecies about it in MW, and a retroactive one from Skyrim in the form of Alduins wall and the poems.

[@anonecki]

As a staunch Telvanni sympathiser, I wholeheartedly support your notion

[@wintertrooper7918]

It's actually explained that argonians born outside of blackmarsh have no connection to the hist and therefore are not called by the hist

[@T3nch1]

I maintain that Yokuda never sank. It's still there and it's still owned by the Sinestral. The redguard came to Tamriel because they were losing their war against the Sinestral and that's why they hate all elves, because they are holding a grudge for getting kicked out of the island. If Sinestral had the power to sink the islands, than logically they also had the power to move them away from sight.

[@iScAre1]

This is the same theory I have with what happened in the Night of Tears. Ain't no way the Atmoran settlers were "peaceful" in the colonization of snow elf territory. I postulate they waged war on them, failed miserably, & road their coat tails back to Atmora with a huge elven grudge. The fact that only Ysgramor & his 2 sons were the ONLY survivors is highly suspect.

[@Evarakeus]

@@iScAre1 If they already lost to them, then how do you figure an even smaller force of Atmorans proceeded to drive those same Snow Elves to near extinction?

[@thesimpleanswer2264]

@@Evarakeus I suppose the colonization group was made up mostly of non warrior colonists. The 500 the Ysgramor brought over were the mightiest warriors of atmora or something like that.

[@kristijanceple6026]

​@@Evarakeus I've read a theory somewhere that, along with the warriors, Ysgramor brought dragons with him on his way back tbh, that's the only way I see a force of 500 nords winning against elves (who are usually masters of magic). For example, much smaller and divided dwemer and dunmer were able to repel the nordic empire, as well as talos' imperial forces (same with altmer actually), so I would guess they needed dragons to win

[@MN-jw7mm]

Your theory doesn't make sense because it doesn't explain the shift in behaviour. They had to be at peace at one point, otherwise a war couldn't break out when the Altmer were already established on the continent, they would've killed off when they were mere fishing villages. There had to have been a period of peace long enough for the Altmer to create a city, and some change that sparked the conflict.@@iScAre1

[@bacd-nn2lg]

There is still more to Elder Scrolls lore like Warlord Gathrik being Konahrik, Solstheim Draugrs, or Arniel Gane quest.

[@FranklyGaming]

Oh ya you could make 100 hours of content on just the lore alone, may make a follow up video eventually gonna to do other games too, thanks for supporting the channel by the way!

[@shadowbanned1999]

Yes but they weren't on the internet list.

[@Dingleberrycrunch36]

I like to think the Hist can recall the history of tamriel, but the only detail they bothered to remember was the weather. “So what really happened in the first age oh great old one??” “Started off pretty warm. Got colder.”

[@phoenixisash]

The quality of this video shows throughout. Thank you for this extremely well written Elder Scrolls doc.

[@FranklyGaming]

Really appreciate that Phoenix! Thanks for supporting the channel

[@JackDeLad]

The deep ones and the daedric prince Dagon are references to HP Lovecraft. Its a good bet that the town is sacrificing to Dagon, as this would fit with the rest of reference. Also the voices were not the only thing coming from the deep caves, there was definitely a wind in that clip you showed. That is straight out of Lovecraft!

[@FranklyGaming]

Oh damn great catch on the clip point out, and ya was great inspiration for the quest, thanks so much for watching!

[@maxgrozema1093]

I believe elder scrolls online implies it are daedra of Molag Bal

[@BYoNexus]

Hear me out, Kagrenac didnt cause the disappearance of the Dwemer. Everything that talks about the event is from second hand account, since no one saw Kagrenac do anything. It was The Tribunal, Dagoth and Nerevar finding the tools next to the heart that led to that account. What if the Dwemer who had the Dragon Elder Scroll in Skyrim not be the ones to do it? According to the lore in skyrim, the Dwemer there were rivals to the Morrowind Dwemer. Learning that Kagrenac was planning to use the Numidium to make the Dwemer gods, they feared that, as rivals, they wouldnt be part of that. So instead of waiting for their rivals to achieve an insurmountable advantage, they used the Elder Scroll to fling the entire race through time. They didnt have enough time to be precise, and only hit their rival cousins, but decided that reseting the field was at least bringing both parties back to parity. A big detail that sticks with me though, would be the thought that Kagrenac, who designed the entire system that the numidium was, somehow screwed up, and then a handful of Chimer walk in, figure it out, and use it properly to become the Tribunal. What? The architect fails, but 6 essential idiots walk in and make it work The Dwemer might just pop back into existance someday with this theory :)

[@morgott13]

I like this theory and it's a possible retcon if they wanted to bring the dwemer back however you are forgetting one thing. The eyewitness account of the last surviving dwemer in Morrowind.

[@twistedvtuber9894]

I mean the theory kinda works. Only issue I see is that the timing is WAAAY to precise. They would have had to use the scroll at the exact time Kagrenac was attempting to use the Heart, without knowing anything about what is happening at Red Mountain. Too coincidental to be plausible, unless a Daedra (*cough* Azura *cough*) fed intel

[@Delete240]

Possibly, but it seems to be too much of a coincidence for the Skyrim Dwemer to use the Dragon Elder Scroll at the exact same time as the Morrowind Dwemer using the Heart of Lorkhan. There is a quest in Skyrim, hidden in plain site, which kinda backs up the Heart of Lorkhan theory though. In the quest, you retrieve the dagger Keening, one of the tools, for some guy at the College of Winterhold. He uses Keening on a soul gem, and then disappears like he was never there, leaving only Keening behind. Very similar to the idea of the Dwemer disappearing and leaving the tools behind when Kagrenac used them on the Heart. Seems too coincidental to not mean anything.

[@MPerez-gj7ck]

The reaper sounds terrifying. Imagine being there all dark and not much to see but his glowing eyes but right before he attacks boom, he summons a Raid Shadow Legends Ad back to back.

[@Royalscriber5633]

Nice. Definitely some details I weren't aware of especially on some of those specific quests. The one about the crab/lobster race at the beginning though has some theory behind that I believe I heard from fudgemuppet but it's been awhile. Anyway, I believe they did rule over all of Nirn in a previous Calpa. I'm sure some of you have heard that term. Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe I heard that Molag Bal was actually the reason behind them ruling all of Nirn as he was their leader of a sort before he was supposedly defeated by Mehrunes Dagon which started the next Calpa with Bal being sent back to Oblivion. Dagon was I believe at the time seen as someone that did good but then proceeded to turn on the other gods as well. A lot of things I left out on Dagons part but it's the gist of what I remember. Oh, it's also believed that the crab race and Hist are both from the previous Calpa so who's to say that certain elves aren't from the previous as well. Elves like to blame man for a lot of stuff so maybe the Altmer know what exactly those changes were when man was born cause they too may have been from the previous Calpa. I believe they said they were immortal but when man was created they lost their immortality. Wouldn't surprise me if crabs lost their intelligence due to the change why couldn't elves lose their ageless lifespan and who knows what the Hist could've lost

[@FranklyGaming]

Ya a lot of people have mentioned this super interesting theories I’ll have to look more into, thanks for supporting the channel by the way!

[@Ro-Ghost]

For the Rorikstead one you forgot to mention the one woman who is alive is infertile (unable to have children of her own)

[@FranklyGaming]

Ya great point I actually almost included that but didn’t want the section to be too long probably should have, thanks a lot for watching by the way!

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@@FranklyGaming thanks for posting quality content, never made anything myself but planning alone looks like it took days

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Nice ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@michaeltelson9798]

Or the shrine of Akatosh with a dragon scale that respawns and is present from the game start.

[@FranklyGaming]

Thanks so much for all the love and support on the recent videos guys! What iceberg do you want to see next? I was thinking either Elden Ring, Fallout, Prey, or Other.

[@SaintKuro]

Fallout would be a great one. There is so much lore in that franchise spans from the original Fallout to the recent Fallout 76, and many dropped concepts and even movie script in-between

[@FranklyGaming]

@@SaintKuro ya honestly probably the one I will do next I’ll put up a poll though to see what everyone thinks, thanks for watching!

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Fallout 🔥🔥🔥

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Probably should have pinned this.

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@@Tattletale-Delta I put up a poll so figured that will be even better

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[@Nomenooooo]

The fate of the snow elves is really sad not gonna lie. If I had known that those guys were formerly snow elves, I would have tried to avoid them so I wouldn’t have to kill them.

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You need more subs man. Opening shots +editing +voicing is solid. Ima send this to a few friends. Big ups

[@FranklyGaming]

Thanks so much for the kind words appreciate it, hopefully you enjoy the fallout video dropping tomorrow too has a cool intro

[@aursunao2817]

I personally feel like the dwemer when awakening the heart ended up making a pact with lorkhan taking them out to ending up making their own realm where the silently wait and prepare for a big final battle with the deadra and gods Edit: thanks for the likes nice to know some people like the theory

[@thepopemichael]

I subbed in hopes that you'll make more Elder Scrolls content, as this is an AWESOME video!

[@grmpynrthmn5371]

With regards to Argonian breasts, my primary theory is that they are calcium stores, which are present on many real reptile species (predominantlyin Geckos), though in the real world they're stored on the animals neck. Perhaps storing this material on the chest became an evolutionary adaptation to increase the mobility of the race.

[@fast1nakus]

The positioning makes no sense to store things so high on the body and in two places. Evolutions makes animals store things close to the centre of the body mass. That's why human females start being fat on the ass, and males on the stomach, makes it easier to moove while hunting as males (or sit on the ass as females) If they were created with breasts, it's probably because boobs are cool and other species like them.

[@yungoldman2823]

I think the more likely scenario is someone at bethesda said “titty lizard” so they put the titties on the lizard

[@FizCap]

Bethesda probably writing this down, argonian females having breasts is the same reason khajit females don’t have 8 breasts, it’s easier to model the armor if everyone has the same frame lol

[@hallyudoinfam5524]

My take, whether your theory is applicable or not, is the Hist "sculpted" them to at least be somewhat more humanoid or manmer-ish. Thus having obvious things for females such as "breasts" even if they wouldn't work like Man or Mer, would look closer to them than entirely alien.

[@johncopenhaver4311]

I just realized. Out of all of the skeletons one comes across in elder scrolls games never once an Argonian skeleton.

[@FranklyGaming]

Oh damn interesting I wonder if there are some examples

[@FranklyGaming]

If not that would be an interesting video

[@johncopenhaver4311]

Yes definitely do a video, also I can't believe I could be the first to realize there are no Argonian skeletal remains.

[@FranklyGaming]

@@johncopenhaver4311 the legend of John Copenhaver haha

[@johncopenhaver4311]

@@FranklyGaming Im already infamous where I'm from I don't need anymore "legends" also no Khajit skelebros either.

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This video definitely took so much work. Thank you for the effort and this will probably be a repeated watch for me :)

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Awesome video. Absolutely loved it. The lore is so rich and vast, it's insane.

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Thanks so much!

[@joannanasiowska-rek1748]

That was a very nice video. I've played TES for about 15 years now and there is never a lack of mysteries, random scraps of history that are so easy to disregard while following the main quests. I didn't expect to end up on quality content at 2 AM. Thanks for making this!

[@FranklyGaming]

Anytime! Thanks for taking the time to support me as well!

[@JLB456]

Honestly I've always played as an Argonian because being able to breathe underwater is just so OP!

[@FranklyGaming]

Love that they add cool traits like that, thanks for supporting my channel!

[@Jnigo]

It’s not you’re barely ever in water

[@Ph0n3numb3r]

@@Jnigo exactly, water breathing is best kept on a piece of gear for if you ever seem to need it.

[@MishaFlower]

@@Jnigo Yeah. It's honestly the most useless trait after the orc one.

[@sirjohnsonthesecondofclanayeni]

​@@MishaFlowerhistskin is pretty useful. Especially on legendary

[@terribleduelist4433]

So wood elves are short and demented NGL that just kind of sounds like short people when they get angry

[@FranklyGaming]

You dog lol, thanks for watching!

[@AC-hj9tv]

Short people be trippin

[@krenbenz6991]

I can't stand when people make these videos and pronounce like 70% of things wrong. I know it's fantasy, but thats hardly an excuse when there's voice acting in the game and infinite content about the game all over the internet. It irks me.

[@ThouguohT]

The Caribs (where we get the word Cannibal and Caribbean from) had a similar tradition where ANYTHING that was killed had to be eaten, which includes Humans killed in war.

[@ThouguohT]

22:35

[@FranklyGaming]

Interesting haven’t heard of this cool backstory, thanks for supporting the channel!

[@JP-jd8wr]

Man it's cool to be so early to a KZbin channel like this. I feel like one day you'll have a HUGE subscriber count. Shocked you don't have one already with this content you've put out!

[@FranklyGaming]

Really appreciate the kind words! Ya it’s been cool to see the crazy support after years of work and no results

[@Raiethstar]

Good video, you may want to brush up on the names that have clear pronunciation though. Vermina was the one that stuck out the worst. It actually took me a moment to realize who you were talking about.

[@FranklyGaming]

Ya that’s one thing I’ll try and focus on in future videos so thanks for the feedback and thanks for supporting the channel!

[@jamesrustle7536]

I've been waiting since the start of the iceberg trend for someone to have the balls to tackle this schizophrenic masterpiece.

[@FranklyGaming]

Thanks for watching!

[@Hero_Of_Old]

TES has the craziest lore in all of fantasy fiction

[@FranklyGaming]

It really does have some amazing lore, thanks for watching!

[@Lightscribe225]

That's what happens when you let a cat fetishist and an elf enthusiast hopped up on meth write your lore.

[@Sonai199]

Damn bro, that was so entertaining. I've watched a lot of fudgemuppet over the years and didn't come across most of the theories in this. Great job

[@FranklyGaming]

Thanks so much for the support!

[@swafty5813]

I don't fall asleep to videos much ever, these days, but this was perfect timing. Lore on a series I've only heard of, just before I go to bed on a whim, just as I searched "iceberg"! I'm sold! Thanks for compiling all of this goofy and creative fantasy writing.

[@FranklyGaming]

Anytime, thanks for watching and supporting the channel swafty!

[@tekdaystar345]

You've still barely scratched the surface. On top of that there were a lot of minor errors, but I'd have to rewatch to list of them off, but the only one that really bugged me was calling the Dwemer peaceful. People like to go on about how "only what's in game" but there are a lot of lore heavy games that have extensive out of game lore that is still part of it. With Elder Scrolls, some of it is more contentious regardless. I get why you wouldn't talk about the weirdest stuff on the iceberd and all. I've got thousands of hours studying the lore both in game and out of game, and still get confused from that image. I imagine that people who just play Skyrim and maybe some Oblivion here or there would probably just put the sweetroll down and walk away.

[@FranklyGaming]

Thanks for watching man really appreciate the support!

[@FranklyGaming]

And ya I just choose theories I find most interesting

[@tekdaystar345]

@@FranklyGaming I mean, this feels like it was meant for people who are more or less not heavily into Elder Scrolls, and more like people in the general gaming community. TES can get really fucked up. And really fucking weird.

[@tekdaystar345]

@@FranklyGaming Also I remembered the other one that bothered me. Dreughs and Vivec. (Seperating the reply for ease of reading) Vivec is a known liar, and the player caught him in a huge web of lies in Morrowind. And the 36 Lessons are implied to be a mix of half-truths, mythologized history, metaphor, and outright lies with bits of truth sprinkled in. And some theories even suggest that Vivec completely rewrote history to hide the evidence of his crimes. Then with the Dreughs, Mankar Cameron claims that Merhunes Dagon wiped out their civilization, but in what is called a parallel place, specifically Lyg, neither of which we know much about. But this suggests they may have even been interplanar, not just world-dominating. There is a lot to the Vivec and the Dreughs stuff that could have made for a great full theory video.

[@tekdaystar345]

by "rewrote history" I also mean altered the fabric of time. He was more than powerful enough to do so.

[@coleneer3351]

This is really awesome! Love you approach and the details you brought up (many I hadn't heard of before). However some of the slaughtered names (Adamus Phillada, Hieronymus Lex, etc) throws me off a bit haha

[@FranklyGaming]

Oh ya I butchered some LOL, working on it for the next one appreciate them feedback helps me improve, and thanks for supporting what I do!

[@jvce4610]

As an Elder Scrolls Nerd you have made my day with this. Thank you for all the work you put into this!

[@FranklyGaming]

anytime! Thank you for supporting what I do

[@danielvictor3262]

Elder Scrolls is so chock full of lore that it isn't even a piece of fiction anymore it's literally another living, breathing world. Tolkien could only dream of this kind of world-building.

[@FreightmareFTW]

This world is rapidly passing away and I hope that you repent and take time to change before all out disaster occurs! Belief in messiah alone is not enough to grant you salvation - Matthew 7:21-23, John 3:3, John 3:36 (ESV is the best translation for John 3:36) if you believed in Messiah you would be following His commands as best as you could. If you are not a follower of Messiah I would highly recommend becoming one. Call on the name of Jesus and pray for Him to intervene in your life - Revelation 3:20. Contemplate how the Roman Empire fulfilled the role of the beast from the sea in Revelation 13. Revelation 17 confirms that it is in fact Rome. From this we can conclude that A) Jesus is the Son of God and can predict the future or make it happen, B) The world leaders/nations/governments etc have been conspiring together for the last 3000+ years going back to Babylon and before, C) History as we know it is fake. You don't really need to speculate once you start a relationship with God. Can't get a response from God? Fasting can help increase your perception and prayer can help initiate events. God will ignore you if your prayer does not align with His purpose (James 4:3) or if you are approaching Him when "unclean" (Isaiah 1:15, Isaiah 59:2, Micah 3:4). Stop eating food sacrificed to idols (McDonald's, Wendy's etc) stop glorifying yourself on social media or making other images of yourself (Second Commandment), stop gossiping about other people, stop watching obscene content etc. Have a blessed day!

[@vivianavalentin6292]

Hey there! I'm a huge Elder Scrolls fan so it was amazing to see a video that you clearly put so much research, time, and dedication to. The video was fantastic and the production quality is great! Earned a sub from me and I'll be sharing and following your content!

[@FranklyGaming]

Thank you so much for the kind words and support means a lot! ❤️

[@gamingxmachina6718]

This popped up in my recomendations about an hour ago. Clicked it and have not been dissapointed. As an elder scrolls fan i have learned more theories then i knew about its why i love iceberg vids like this. Keep up the great job the quality is spectacular and your deliverance is engaging.

[@FranklyGaming]

Really appreciate that thanks for watching!

[@patchwilliamson]

The village that's sacrificing people sounds like a reference to the Shadow over Innsmouth, so it feels safe to say that they're worshipping Dagon

[@FranklyGaming]

Yep that’s actually what the quest was based on! And thanks for supporting the channel by the way!

[@patchwilliamson]

@@FranklyGaming Gotchu, fam ✊

[@iranianvoodoodoctor6778]

Cool video! What software did you use to edit and make this vid? I’ve been looking to do an iceberg myself on another topic

[@FranklyGaming]

I use premiere pro! Thanks for supporting by the way

[@DustinKrizan]

Underrated channel. You deserve way more subs!! Love these icebergs

[@jeremybassett9424]

As an ES lore adept, I really expected to be wowed by this video. Instead, nearly everything was very surface level. Even some conspiracies that were touched on, failed to actually go as deep as they truly are. No disrespect, just recommend hitting some of these points harder. Imperial knowledge and Lady of Scrolls would be a better example to mimic instead of the normieeness of epicnate

[@FranklyGaming]

Ya I get that and thanks for the feedback I just started doing these and have kept them a little more surface level especially for elder scrolls so much more. Kinda want the videos for be under and hour and touch on a lot of stuff just cause I want a general video for everything one day I might dive into individual things more deeply. Either way though thanks for the support on the channel!

[@zootedandstoopid]

@@FranklyGaming keep doing what you're doing! Give a broad explanation, and then you can dive deeper with videos dedicated to each one separately. That way people will see all of these and if any really piques their interest, you'll have videos for those specifically.

[@xBINARYGODx]

what an odd thing to expect from ANY iceberg video. they are deep dives, but always of a shallow kind - not deep about any one thing.

[@SaintKuro]

Man this channel pumps out some pretty good video with high quality production and yet still so little view and subs? I love your vids man, I'm gonna sub

[@FranklyGaming]

Really appreciate that man! Ya it’s been a struggle for years lol but recently we have been doing well

[@Night-Lord]

I actually started theorizing about the Argonian origins during this video. I had the thought that rather than being born of the Hist or just reshaped from existing life, what if the Argonians stem from a threoretical fourth group of wandering Ehlnofey that encountered the Hist before they encountered the elves. That would make the Argonians the only race that is both Anuic and Padomaic (I think, I could be wrong about that), and it would make it so the two main beast races both stem from the Ehnofey, albeit different groups which I like

[@daydreamdirty]

That’s pretty cool honestly

[@-UnchartedSky-]

Great video to grow the channel. I commend you for the hard work!

[@FranklyGaming]

Really appreciate that! Thanks for taking the time to support what I do

[@kylekrommendijk4797]

Okay, I didn’t notice that until now, but now I am geeking out! The Elder scolls’ very own “Skyrim grandma” endorsed this video! That’s so wholesome and awesmazing!

[@kylekrommendijk4797]

@Shirley Curry, I think it’s epic that you like this game! Also when I saw that the modding community modded you into the game, that just touched my heart! Never before have I been prouder to be of a community than this!(except maybe for my church community!)

[@impishrebel5969]

27:19 You're mixing up some terms here. The original Elves were the Aldmer (Elder, or First). The Altmer (High) are (supposedly) their direct descendants. The other mer races were descended from the Aldmer as were the Altmer. The original Proto-Aldmer (descendants of Ehlnofey) had settled in Aldmeris and then migrated to Summerset Isles and then spread out over Tamriel forming the Altmer, Bosmer(Wood), Chimer(Changed), Falmer(Snow), Dwemer(Deep), et ctr. It's entirely conceivable that a group from Aldmeris or the Ehlnofey themselves had broken off early and settled on the continent of Yokuda. The Ehlnofey were said to be the ancestors of both Mer and Men and were supposedly descedants of the Aedra. I mean you could look this up on the wikis with the source material from the games. Also re: HIst, it's been implied in lore in various books you find that the Hist and Ehlnofey were races of beings that had pre-dated Nirn and existed on the previous worlds that had been destroyed and combined to create Nirn, so the eldest Hist themselves may have predated the creation of Nirn, as were several other races that were intelligent and at previous points ruled vast civilizations. Personally I think the Aedra (Ancestors) were worlds/realms themselves with the ability to take a smaller physical form (think like Ego from Marvel) because the creation myths go that they gave up their physical forms and energy to form Nirn, while the Daedra (Not Ancestors) didn't want any part of it, which would make sense given that Oblivion are realms one can actually visit and the most powerful Daedra rule those realms and have physical presences as well as godlike abilities and power but the Aedra have no known realms and can't be visited. Daedric beings were supposedly created in those realms to populate and inhabit them, it stands to reason something similar happened with "Aedric realms" and races, with the Aedric-born races losing their ability to be reborn like Daedra when the Aedra created Nirn and lost their connection to both realm and gods/creators. It would also explain why some races claim to be desdenants of the Aedra. The Daedra lords have the ability to take different forms or no form at all, and appear in multiple forms, create artifacts of immense power, all things the Aedra were supposed to have done before the creation of Nirn. Akatosh is probably the most telling this is the case as he took the form of a dragon and created the race of dragons, and dialog with Paarthurnax and Alduin imply they had known Akatosh personally, so the Dragons could be one of the races that predate Nirn. The Hist take on an even more interesting role in that light and may have been close to the Aedra. The Heart of Lorkhan sort of plays into the "once having a physicality" idea and the Shezarrine idea, but it may go further than that with the Aedra also having opportunities to affect history the same way as the Nerevarine (who Azura promised to resurrect in retaliation for the Tribunal's betrayals) and the Shezarrine. The Aedra don't appear in person or seem to interfere directly but they do seem to have influence and power on the world still.

[@TheMetastasia]

Didn´t you forget the shitelves (Orsimer)?

[@pierreguay3576]

Was gonna make the same comment about Aldmer and Ehlnofey. Great explanation, btw :)

[@Super50ldier]

@@TheMetastasia Orcs are not Elves, they're beastfolk.

[@kylekrommendijk4797]

Nice try, but Septimus signus directly refers to the orcs as elves in the transcending the mundane quest line.

[@Super50ldier]

@@kylekrommendijk4797 They're still beastfolk, they have both elven blood and beast blood.

[@totallytubular618]

"Aurbis" is the universe, not the galaxy. There is no galaxy

[@adamusprime403]

So I think there's an important part of the text you ignored involving the Falmer, it states something about their souls being seperated from them and that they'd live amongst the music for eternity. I believe the Falmer are soulless husks and their ancestors souls are actually trapped within the automatons, as it's proven that they cannot function without access to soul gems and thus cannot function without souls

[@FranklyGaming]

This is some great insight thanks for that, and thanks for taking the time to support my channel too

[@kisa4748]

But Falmer fill empty gems when you end them, don't they?

[@Schultz3]

@@kisa4748 Yeah, and automatons don't drop black soul gems, the only ones capable of holding men/mer souls.

[@MishaFlower]

@@Schultz3 Debunks the theory then.

[@Schultz3]

@@MishaFlower I mean, we still don't know why falmers fill empty regular soul gems instead of black soul gems, maybe the dwemer found a way to slice their souls or modify them somehow? Anyway, it's not a full debunk.

[@aboriginalalex]

This was really good, hope your channel goes well

[@FranklyGaming]

Thanks so much ❤️

[@CaseyWeaver22]

I just finished this video and you gained a new subscriber. Very well done

[@FranklyGaming]

Thanks so much for the support!

[@savirianwinter1656]

I like the Deep ones quest. It's basically Eldritch mythology put into Elder Scrolls.

[@abandonall]

I must have beaten this game 100 times, 100% achievements on xbox without even intending to. Never head of this till just now, oblivion is a masterpiece

[@savirianwinter1656]

@@abandonall yeah, it is a masterpiece.

[@raitoiro]

True, that quest is basically just a land version of The shadow over Innsmouth.

[@jonreff4138]

Thank you so much for not doing the shitty water noise and like two sentences, followed by a shitty water noise and two more sentences. Love the idea of iceberg videos but a lot of them piss me off. You nailed it

[@FranklyGaming]

Really appreciate the kind words! Thanks for supporting me

[@santiagocampanupton9344]

Rorikstead is the Hackdirt of Skyrim

[@FranklyGaming]

100% haha had to include both love them so much, thanks for watching and supporting the channel!

[@santiagocampanupton9344]

@@FranklyGaming I commented that without having seen the video until the end. I always had a theory that the reason why Septimus Signus and From-Deepest-Fathoms are completely insane is because the Dwemers designed the Lexicons to punish those who steal them, but at the same time it's what they wanted. That's why the dwemer machines didn't attack From-Deepest-Fathoms' companions UNLESS they tried to escape, or in the leader's case, he died falling into a trap. The machines awaited them. Those same voices that drove Septimus and the Argonian mad are perhaps the same voices that drove Voryn Dagoth mad. Just as Karliah says, the dwemer were cruel

[@FranklyGaming]

@@santiagocampanupton9344 awesome theory I’ll have to hit you up if I do a follow up you would have some great stuff lol

[@mrD518]

every time he pronounces a name horribly incorrectly it takes a year off my lifespan. im going to be dead within a week.

[@FranklyGaming]

Forgive me for I have sinned lol, thanks for watching Andrew haha

[@01BLSP4Y]

There's definitely some errors in this video...The Arkved orb quest isn't this ambiguous unclear ending you make it out to be, it is very straightforward, there is no real mystery that you alluded to. He steals the orb because its a powerful artifact, and he wants to use it to explore the limitless dream world where he can do anything, the first note you find reflects this, and his motivation is clear, a terrible idea, but clear. But if you had bothered to actually research any more, you'd know there are 2 crumpled pieces of paper you also find that essentially consist of him begging for death because the dreams became nightmares. Make no mistake, he was not happy in the nightmares, he just thought he could cheat the system and failed. The quest concludes with taking the orb back and leaving him to suffer the nightmares indefinitely, or putting him out of his misery. I don't understand how this wasn't clear and kind of makes me think you just made things up.

[@FranklyGaming]

Oh ya I know haha I think it’s more my writing style I want to expose each theory I’m as “sinister” a way as possible like I mention in the video he wanted to go to his own torment but that’s kinda the crazy theory part in my head, thanks for supporting by the way I appreciate the feedback too a lot

[@01BLSP4Y]

@@FranklyGaming Its nice that you take these comments onboard, its a good video, and I understand ES has a lot of convoluted and contradictory lore so its not easy content to get everything right.

[@FranklyGaming]

@@01BLSP4Y appreciate the feedback as always too it really helps me get better and it means a lot you are willing to help!

[@ryanabrahams8061]

@@01BLSP4Y some feedback for you too mate is maybe try not to come across as so aggressive and condescending when giving peoole feedback. Alot of people, like thos guy, are willing to learn, correct their mistakes or at very least exain themselves. Save that kind of attitude for people who actually earn it. Otherwise try to go in assuming we're all on the same side 🙂

[@michaellimone224]

Really excellent visuals in this video on top of the info.

[@FranklyGaming]

Thanks for the kind words!

[@egilsilfvenius6926]

Absolutely love this deep dive! You deserve way more subs, keep up the great work!

[@FranklyGaming]

Thanks so much for the support! Really appreciate it

[@JoshJr98]

I used to be obsessed with skyrim lore

[@FranklyGaming]

It’s some good stuff for sure, thanks for watching!

[@branoss04]

If anyone was wondering the dreugh ruled nirn in a previous kelpa vivec remembers them from. That kelpa and I guess wrote about them

[@FranklyGaming]

Ya I saw some other comments about this too thanks for pointing it out! Appreciate the support on the channel!

[@branoss04]

@@FranklyGaming u are very welcome always love seeing new channels pop up talking about the elder scrolls

[@gandalf_thegrey]

Hey lad, just discovered you. I plan on staying and watching a few :D Keep up the great work, wholeheartedly enjoyed it

[@FranklyGaming]

Thanks so much for the kind words means a lot ❤️

[@gandalf_thegrey]

@@FranklyGaming Quality needs encouragement!

[@FunkyDeleriousPriest]

One reason the dwemer may have blinded the snow elves is that it helped to keep secret the knowledge of how to travel to another dimension. I expect the falmer might be the blinded snow elves who were left behind after the dwemer left.

[@Pufferfish1805]

That’s exactly what falmer are

[@reidleblanc3140]

That's explicitly canon, lol. The one Snow Elf you meet tells you exactly what the falmer enemy type is.

[@FreightmareFTW]

This world is rapidly passing away and I hope that you repent and take time to change before all out disaster occurs! Belief in messiah alone is not enough to grant you salvation - Matthew 7:21-23, John 3:3, John 3:36 (ESV is the best translation for John 3:36) if you believed in Messiah you would be following His commands as best as you could. If you are not a follower of Messiah I would highly recommend becoming one. Call on the name of Jesus and pray for Him to intervene in your life - Revelation 3:20. Contemplate how the Roman Empire fulfilled the role of the beast from the sea in Revelation 13. Revelation 17 confirms that it is in fact Rome. From this we can conclude that A) Jesus is the Son of God and can predict the future or make it happen, B) The world leaders/nations/governments etc have been conspiring together for the last 3000+ years going back to Babylon and before, C) History as we know it is fake. You don't really need to speculate once you start a relationship with God. Can't get a response from God? Fasting can help increase your perception and prayer can help initiate events. God will ignore you if your prayer does not align with His purpose (James 4:3) or if you are approaching Him when "unclean" (Isaiah 1:15, Isaiah 59:2, Micah 3:4). Stop eating food sacrificed to idols (McDonald's, Wendy's etc) stop glorifying yourself on social media or making other images of yourself (Second Commandment), stop gossiping about other people, stop watching obscene content etc. Have a blessed day!

[@MariusThePaladin]

The Dreugh civilization was destroyed by either Alduin ( as a part of the end of one of the previous world/timeline cycle) or by Mehrune Dagon. Can't remember the exact lore but Dagon was either created or summoned onto Nirn to fight Molag Bal (the ruler of the Dreugh) by the other Daedra, and he probably ended up destroying the world then while kicking Bal's ass out of Nirn. Youkuda was said to actually got sunk by the Redguard (Youkudan) themselves since they possessed some anime-like power called "Sword Singing" and they used this power to fight the Left Handed Elves so hard they cleaved the continent and caused it to sunk.

[@pancakes8670]

I've been saying for a while now that the Hist are up to some spooky shit, and that Argonians are probably just sleeper agents/drones for this hivemind of trees. A lot of other Argonian players ignore this tho, because Argonians have been an underdog race in the lore with all the enslavement and abuse they suffer. It's easy for people to overlook that Argonians aren't squeaky clean either

[@FranklyGaming]

Ya super very interesting lore behind the whole thing I imagine we won’t have a mainline game there though for some time if ever, thanks for supporting my channel!

[@brandonprendiz4506]

The lorcon theory could explain how in game you can become the leader of all these guilds at once, like you're part of lorcon so you're able to see all the outcomes of dragon breaks, and every game is just another dragon break

[@G-7-G]

Holy crap, this guy going somewhere I wonder how long before them collabs start 👌

[@FranklyGaming]

Really appreciate the support!

[@anemptyspace]

Love your name dude

[@NAWWMANNN]

Saw the length of this video and immediately liked. Heard the quality of your audio and immediately subbed. Good show sir! 👏👏👏

[@nicknamel9413]

This game is 10+years ago and still able to learn something new.

[@FranklyGaming]

It really is a classic, thanks so much for supporting my channel!

[@sheogorathprinceofmadness2223]

Try 40+ years... but you're talking about Skyrim... This video is about The Elder Scrolls as a whole.

[@KittyKeypurr]

How have I not seen you here before 🤔 ?? Mistake resolved. Great video and well narrated, very engaging. Subbed!

[@FranklyGaming]

Really appreciate the support Channen! And ya been working hard for a while the channel just recently started doing really well though so cool to see!

[@LiterallyScarecrow]

For the last one, as the quest is based around the H.P. Lovecraft story, The Shadow Over Innsmouth, it makes it probable that the Deep Ones in Oblivion are Sload since the homonym creatures in the original story were fish men. Great work!! I'm definitely subscribing, this video has such a great quality!!! are you continuing the series? or is this the last time you delve into TES??

[@FranklyGaming]

Thanks so much for the kind words! And I will be doing more in elder scrolls for sure in the future so much lore, doing other games too next iceberg is gonna be fallout

[@LiterallyScarecrow]

@@FranklyGaming nice!! I'm a huge TES fan ao I'll be looking forward to it!! Keep up the good work, and I hope your channel grows a lot!

[@sheogorathprinceofmadness2223]

I think you're right, Raistlin Bright! Seems the Deep Ones are Sloads, worshipping a Daedra or Daedras.

[@nazarenocordero9587]

Epic video, i hope you get the recognition you deserve

[@Steve-1269]

A witcher iceberg would be a good one too

[@FranklyGaming]

Ya so many potential icebergs I’m working on a fallout one right now but Witcher is a future great idea, thanks !

[@landonrice5894]

There's a whole sacrificial chamber in rorikstead too, played for years without ever finding it. Great video as always

[@BoogeymanThe]

Interesting video and your hard work is appreciated. As an old school gamer i remember myself taking the time on reading most of the books in-game (except Skyrim, have not bothered playing that one after seing the intro) and was well puzzled at most of times. One of the greatest game universes i have ever experienced and your effort is truly worth my appreciation even with its few flaws...buuuuuut f.....ing great work mate! I would love to see more content on this...part2 maybe?

[@FranklyGaming]

Thanks so much for the kind words Christos! And ya would love to do more parts elder scrolls has so much cool lore I didn’t even speak to, have some other games to do first though (fallout next)

[@BoogeymanThe]

@@FranklyGaming you do you,wich is great!

[@DaddyDagoth]

Imagine not playing Skyrim.

[@sheogorathprinceofmadness2223]

Skyrim is not like the ones before... but if you like TES at all, it is worth it! Do yourself a favor!!

[@hntr_official]

Elder scrolls lore is wild. I'm glad I got into this unique franchise that isn't your generic fantasy series.

[@franklygamingextra]

another banger video me

[@FranklyGaming]

Thanks me

[@GamersAreAtFault]

Hi

[@universome511]

This is edited and presented so much better then the average read off list drone of iceberg videos

[@FranklyGaming]

Really appreciate it, thanks for the support!

[@universome511]

@@FranklyGaming you're welcome man

[@mikeywatson1862]

The left handed elves probably came from the previous kulpa, like the redguards did.

[@FranklyGaming]

Ya that would 100% be the most likely theory, thanks for supporting the channel by the way!

[@vtheman1850]

Great vid! Just cause it's an Iceberg I'd add. The Daedra aren't really... evil, for the purposes of the story, sure they are often antagonists, but within the cosmology sort of think of them as, Catalysts of Change, VS the Aedra that are representations of order.

[@wintertrooper7918]

Molar bal is very much pure evil

[@MediumChungus223]

First off - I love the video! I havent seen many good icebergs on TES, so I really enjoyed this. Keep rocking it Second, there actually is an explanation of what happened to the Dreugh! It can be found in Oblivion, in Mankar Camoran's Commentaries on the Mysterium Xarxes, Volume 4: "May the holder of the fourth key know the heart thereby: the Mundex Terrene was once ruled over solely by the tyrant dreugh-kings, each to their own dominion, and borderwars fought between their slave oceans. They were akin to the time-totems of old, yet evil, and full of mockery and profane powers. No one that lived did so outside of the sufferance of the dreughs. I give my soul to the Magna Ge, sayeth the joyous in Paradise, for they created Mehrunes the Razor in secret, in the very bowels of Lyg, the domain of the Upstart who vanishes. Though they came from diverse waters, each Get shared sole purpose: to artifice a prince of good, spinning his likeness in random swath, and imbuing him with Oblivion's most precious and scarce asset: hope. Deathlessly I intone from Paradise: Mehrunes the Thieftaker, Mehrunes Godsbody, Mehrunes the Red Arms That Went Up! Nu-Mantia! Liberty! Deny not that these days shall come again, my novitiates! For as Mehrunes threw down Lyg and cracked his face, declaring each of the nineteen and nine and nine oceans Free, so shall he crack the serpent crown of the Cyrodiils and make federation! All will change in these days as it was changed in those, for with by the magic word Nu-Mantia a great rebellion rose up and pulled down the towers of CHIM-EL GHARJYG, and the templars of the Upstart were slaughtered, and blood fell like dew from the upper wards down to the lowest pits, where the slaves with maniacal faces took chains and teeth to their jailers and all hope was brush-fire. Your Dawn listens, my Lord! Let all the Aurbis know itself to be Free! Mehrunes is come! There is no dominion save free will! Suns were riven as your red legions moved from Lyg to the hinterlands of chill, a legion for each Get, and Kuri was thrown down and Djaf was thrown down and Horma-Gile was crushed with coldsalt and forevermore called Hor and so shall it be again under the time of Gates. Under the mires, Malbioge was thrown down, that old City of Chains, slaked in newbone-warmth and set Free. Galg and Mor-Galg were thrown down together in a single night of day and shall it be again under the time of Gates. Nothing but woe for NRN which has become The Pit and seven curses on its Dreugh, the Vermae NI-MOHK! But for it the Crusades would be as my lord's Creation, Get by the Ge and do as thou wilt, of no fetters but your own conscience! Know that your Hell is Broken, people of the Aurbis, and praise the Nu-Mantia which is Liberty!" Okay, so heres the tl;dr: Lyg was an ancient land ruled over by the tyrant Dreugh Kings. The Magna-Ge, ancient spirits, created Mehrunes Dagon as a force of change, and Mehrunes Dagon destroyed Lyg and everyone in it. Some people think Lyg was Tamriel in a previous time cycle, some people think it is a far away continent we have not seen. Then Mankar Camoran wanted to use Mehrunes Dagon as a force of change again, this time to destroy the empire.

[@FranklyGaming]

Oh wwow this is an amazing insight thanks might include it in a future video, and thanks so much for supporting my channel!

[@eddardstark6554]

I’m a huge Elder Scrolls lore junkie (like, I’ve read and consolidated my own essays on the matter of deep lore topics for fun in my free time - yes I’m that nerdy haha). I can confirm that Mehrunes Dagon was created by the Magne Ge (the beings known as Et’Ada who followed in the footsteps of Magnus [an Aedric Et’Ada] and became the Stars) to wipe out the Dreugh Empire. What’s interesting is that this was very likely the FIRST ever Kalpa cycle in the Elder Scrolls universe in the early parts of the Dawn Era (after Anu’s battles with Padomay). So before they became the Stars, and while Magnus was still working with Lorkhan to design Mundus, I like to think that while Auriel/Akatosh was still “inventing” Time, the Magne Ge were bored with the Dreugh who currently ruled Nirn (the Amalgamation of the 12 Worlds of Creation - one of which was likely the birthplace of the Dreugh before Anu amalgamated them before his last grapple with Padomay and disappearance outside of the Aurbis) and wanted to create their own being to end the Kalpa before Akatosh could do so by creating/sending Alduin because they were growing impatient. But in their folly, they created a being so terrible that he would go on to become a Daedric Prince. Perhaps after their retreat to the Aetherial Realm, Mehrunes Dagon tried to follow them, as they were his parents/creators after all and perhaps he loved them in a way, but tragically he could only go as far as Oblivion, because he wasn’t perfect and had some evil in him (which is interesting considering that the Magne Ge are aspects of Anu, aka perfection, but that doesn’t make them exempt from creating imperfection themselves. This is possibly what made them so easily give up on aiding Magnus and Lorkhan along with the other Et’Ada in the creation of Mundus since they were afraid of creating more imperfect things). Thus Mehrunes created his home there. His invasion of Tamriel/Nirn in the Third Era is possibly his attempt to finally return to destroy the place that he was originally created to destroy - perhaps to gain the favor of the Magne Ge in case they were still watching from Aetherius, but it was obviously to no avail - as Akatosh was now stronger and could prevent Mehrunes’ destruction this time. I also like to think that it’s no coincidence Dagon showed up in the Imperial City because he wants to activate the Tower to possibly contact the Magne Ge in Aetherius to communicate with them. Again, maybe because Mehrunes misses his creators. Something I’ve learned in Elder Scrolls (and history - my major) is that nothing is black or white. Everything is grey, therefore Mehrunes Dagon isn’t purely evil, even though the citizens of Tamriel may think he is. What’s also fun is this could be anyone’s personal head canon, as so much of the lore is open to interpretation since many of the in-game lore contradicts even itself.

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[@eddardstark6554]

@@sheogorathprinceofmadness2223 I love you too Sheo! Cheese for everyone! Wait, scratch that! Cheese for no one. That can be just as much of a celebration.

[@reffa2858]

This is like a culmination of all the elder scrolls lore videos Ive watched over the past 10 years. Rorikstead was always a popular one.....

[@FranklyGaming]

Ya that is kinda what I am going for with my initial iceberg videos and then I can branch out into more deep dives eventually, thanks for watching!

[@SanMaster17]

You've got spirit, but the video is lacking. Not only did you pick and choose just a few theories from the iceberg without telling the audience (when the usual is to take on all of them), leaving most of them unexplained, but you also stole footage from LeftoverPat's video on argonians. Don't be mistaken, your video wasn't bad, your voice is soothing, and the footage and music are fitting. But please, do keep this in mind.

[@SanMaster17]

Listen, I know icerberg explanations are long and hard to do. I've done my fair share, but if you're already commited to doing an hour of content, why not keep going? Maybe split it in parts, so it's easier to digest, but skipping so much is a shame

[@FranklyGaming]

Hey man thanks a lot for the feedback I really appreciate it! And ya I think explaining my process in the beginning is a good idea cause the videos are really just about my favorite lore and theories, thanks for supporting the channel by the way!

[@SanMaster17]

No problem, thanks for taking the time to read the comments. Good luck!

[@lockedon8953]

I've always believed they're telling a story on a franchise basis not a single story per game

[@FranklyGaming]

Ya those kind of stories are the best for lore too makes it so interesting, thanks for watching!

[@josephconnell5101]

Disturbing Skyrim iceberg: oh sounds creepy and interesting Video: So why do female argonians have boobs?

[@FranklyGaming]

A man of culture I see lol

[@AC-hj9tv]

So clickbait. Stayed for the lizard boobs tho

[@ViktorBlaskov]

Not two weeks ago I saw that image and was thinking "damn I wish someone bothered to dissect it". Thanks for that!

[@FranklyGaming]

Thanks for watching viktor!