The Division: Critical Hit Chance vs. Critical Damage

[@Waddehaddeduddedaa]

Datto, you are not a failure to me. I do not know you, but still you are very good at what you are doing. This is coming from some guy in Germany, who likes the work you doon KZbin. Thanks.

[@tarabite6280]

Honestly man, you should rephrase your last sentence.

[@volkerschmidt743]

+Tara Bite Dude it's called lost in translation ;)

[@Waddehaddeduddedaa]

haha pun intended :D no seriously next time i´ll read before sending, changed

[@tarabite6280]

:)

[@shiznayYT]

If you weren't a youtuber you would be an excellent math teacher.

[@SkeltonMcGrizzGrizz]

There there Datto, all the effort is appreciated

[@jimmydannenburg6694]

You as Community member of Both The division and destiny you are doing a great job No worry

[@gooner1237]

The division does Datto

[@HZLTV]

Datto Does Math. I'm not bad at math but I struggle to keep up with the pace of the math, but even still I love listening to the videos anyway!! Something new and refreshing

[@luc448]

Don't be discouraged. we love these videos, even if they're not finished. I learned something today from you! Even if the conversation about critical power isn't over, it's still a great start, and something I can now work with. Thanks Datto!

[@jchristmas84]

thank you for not just this video but all the videos you make. I subscribe to this channel because instead of showing highlight clips over and over you show something much more valuable, the mechanics of game.

[@spacedoggo61]

WE STILL LOVE YOU DATTO. I really like how youre one of the only youtubers that is based in numbers and i like that, plus all your videos are so well put together ( i saw your vid on how you make videos). So thank for all the hard work and this is basically a good job, youre doing great and keep it up! Nailed it.

[@koolman313131]

Datto, I love these theory crafting videos. The biggest reason I subscribed to you was that your videos have always been very informative and accurate. It sucks that you wasted a lot of time, but maybe with some additional work, you could zero in on the correct ratio for critical hits.

[@sorooshusa]

man dont get discouraged. despite the fact that i was looking forward to a solid answer, i found this video helpful because it just went to show that my own speculations were true. I am a math major and i deal with numbers theories and ratios all day for the passed 10 years or so. That means i always knew or had a feeling that crit chance and crit damage will have a golden ratio but its affected by other so called hidden variables. Those hidden variables being talents, skills, attribute, gear pieces and mods, weapon and their attachment. Massive truly made a very complicated system were it makes it really hard for people to simply find that positive vector of improvement and exploit it. with all that said, cant you just come up with a confidence interval based on your overall character stats? say no matter what you have, navigate to your character tab, scroll down to your overall crit chance/damage and get a nice linear model of whats being utilized the most. right now i believe i am sitting at 50%chance and 120%damage. just based on those numbers, my inner mathematician wants to pack more damage in place of losing some chance. i rather do 150% (that is one and a half times) more damage even if it meant for my shots to be slightly less often than every other shot (50%). it becomes a linear programming model with two variables and two boundaries. let X=chance, let Y=damage. maximize Z=(X).(Y). your objective function is z and you are trying to maximize the objective function of two variables. im not sure about the boundary conditions at this point.

[@Just_Amatuer]

Hey Datto, if you wanna do more videos that don't take 20 hours to make, may I suggest more "skill review" vids, like the one you did for Smart Cover? I think it'd be a nice watch. :)

[@GeneralGray8]

Datto your not a failure. You are easily the best single youtuber for any destiny or divison content. My friends ask me about various things all the time and I always send them your stuff it's top quality. Thank you Datto for being great

[@Dark_Daedalus]

+Andy Gray Same here datto, you are the only destiny content i still religiously watch, despite having gravitated away from destiny

[@KillShotOne]

I finally understand why Datto's in the Math Class clan...

[@VinaylaIce]

I appreciate the attempt; I was scratching my head about this for hours yesterday. I kept trying to see visually how much damage output I was putting out and whatnot at the shooting range and couldn't for the life of me figure it out. So I tried doing it the math way and pulled out my calculator and just ended up stumping myself more about the whole thing. Glad to see someone else also struggling to figure the perfect ratio out. For now, I'm just trying to evenly balance the two because I have self preserved on my vector (3% heal every crit) and my build is almost entirely based around it (low-medium health, high armor, high dps, low skill power). The higher my crit chance, the quicker I'm healing. The higher my crit damage, the more I'm healing. My happy medium so far is about 40-45% crit chance and the rest goes to crit damage. Meaning almost every other bullet, I'll heal. If it was truly every other bullet, it'd probably work out better but I'd be doing less dps more than likely. I'd also survive for longer.

[@r351574nc3]

+Datto these theory crafting videos are actually really helpful regardless of how accurate they are. You spend a lot of time speculating and theorizing on things which saves your viewers a lot of the time doing the same thing. Further, even if you're close to an answer that's a lot better than being completely wrong. Really, it is. It's really huge and important and I actually understood 100% of what you were saying. I appreciate this video and want you to know that. Please do more.

[@GamePath]

Think you're wrong, a lot of us seem to care.

[@phant0mdummy]

Statistician does Division.

[@omegaxtrigun]

More like "anyone who cares about min/maxing and being effective" does division.

[@phant0mdummy]

omegaxtrigun Spreadsheet does Division.

[@discomfort1074]

+Color Bars Datto does Math

[@SuPeRawesomeNinjacow]

You do so much stuff for us, that I'm surprised you haven't failed earlier. It's okay Datto. Everyone messes up every once in a while. We all still love you. No homo. Keep up the good work, bro!

[@SuPeRawesomeNinjacow]

+Bob Philip (Thestudioboy1) Well, no homo for me. It may be different for others, in which case, all homo. Idk, it depends on the person.

[@jerrodh61]

Datto, you may be frustrated with this video but I have learned a lot from this video and ones in the past. You reliably post informative, well reasoned, high quality videos that I enjoy watching. Keep up the good work.

[@simplecircuit]

I appreciate the effort on this one. I've resigned myself to avoiding the theory crafting, min/max of The Division. I have some weapons with higher DPS than others, but they simply aren't as effective due to the huge number of visible stats in combination with some other more mysterious ones - Range, Accuracy, Initial Bullet Accuracy, and so on... Good work on the vids though. As much as I enjoy the math of it all, I've resigned myself to just slapping stuff on and seeing how it works in practical use as opposed to crunching the numbers to determine a theoretically optimal build. Maybe I'm playing it wrong though.

[@brianfyffe8204]

Your videos are very valuable and you should put advertisements on them if you don't. I would support your work. I know this take a lot of time and you should be compensated. Great work, great material, and great video. Thank you sir.

[@dugyfresh92]

Nice vid, I am genuinely curious about this topic, so I appreciate the effort. I try to get my base Crit chance to about 25-30%, whether through gear or weapon mods. I focus on modding my SMGs and Snipers specifically for crit damage. That way my SMG will passively bring my crit chance to around 50%. And I want my marksman rifles to be like the most interesting man in the world. "I don't always crit, but when I do..."

[@Karasin]

Just wanted to say that your theorycrafting are great and those people that care really enjoy then, both in Destiny and in Division. Thank you for doing what you're doing!

[@TimeLordVictrix]

I enjoy this type of videos as it more than not shows that i'm doing something right while trying to get an optimum build. I've been trying to do balance Crit chance and damage to lately, i'm still now sure what to prioritize but i like this video.

[@kalebnieto6593]

datto you work ridiculously hard on these vids for us,and some of us aren't grateful enough for that and are just jerks ,so keep your head up and thanks for the info your doing a great job with all this can't wait for more information

[@Aeradom2000]

You know, you did in fact provide and answer though that I didn't know about. So, I'm happy to have at least that. Thanks.

[@15liran]

Come on, how can you not love Datto! This kind of videos is what makes him better than most of the other Destiny/Division youtubers, which only share exploits, ask for praise and don't do much other than serve as hype trains. Love you Datto!!!!!!!

[@x-verbolten-x8738]

Yeah now that I think about it that just about sums up every other destiny youtuber other than a rare select few

[@gibberishface]

This video showcases why I love to watch your videos. Great, honest info. Plus ragging on yourself is always fun. Keep 'em coming man. Fail upwards.

[@stormcallerwarlock4590]

Datto you are not a failure! You're super smart, nice, caring and awesome! Your videos are beyond amazing and the effort you put into them is mind blowing, the results really show this as well! Super high quality :) THANK YOU!!!

[@devinm3975]

Great Video IMHO. Regardless of the possible uncertainty. I have a feeling that some of the Division's internal algorithms have similar issues since the DPS screen values seem buggy as hell.

[@DengKevin]

And that's why his clan in Destiny is called Math Class. This is why Division needs guilds or clan integration so Datto can promote math

[@UnBR0k3enAngel]

+Kevin Deng HIISSSS

[@Lilpiktdude]

+UnBR0k3enAngel Fucking degenerate

[@UnBR0k3enAngel]

Eliseo Alilin Only degenerates like math.

[@Lilpiktdude]

+UnBR0k3enAngel lmao

[@KerpaDerpa]

If it means anything, I love these theorycrafting videos. Your insight helps me out a lot. Great video regardless of mistakes!

[@cruzcontrol8717]

Don't be so hard on yourself datto, at the end of the day you still made an entertaining and informative video and I thank you for your effort.

[@melchizedekpsj]

Your efforts are actually much appreciated. Thank you!

[@mikehookham2566]

haha you legend, loved the ending after all that number crunching I totally understand lol, keep up the vids bud

[@OminousWo1f]

I connected my headphones and was about to open youtube but then got a notification of this video... I think Datto is watching me

[@coolkid9901]

This is very informational thank you very much, it helps me make my build because I recently just got into crit DMG and Chance

[@nelsonpeddle8972]

Your efforts are greatly appreciated, because I sure as heck wouldn't have the patience to do it haha

[@tylergraves8244]

it's ok datto we know you go through tons of work and I appreciate all that work you put into all your videos thanks datto

[@thefleetofworlds]

Hey, don't be so hard on yourself Datto. We love your videos and I personally don't care if you made a mistake. Whoop de do, we all do it. I learned valuable information from your video as I'm sure you learned just from the process of trying to figure this stuff all out. I for one would like to see more theory craft videos from you.

[@CallumJBuckley]

Don't stop doing these, informative and funny!

[@tgjaedan]

Thanks for the effort, man. This game has so many variables it is almost like the devs set out to troll min/maxers on purpose.

[@jimmydannenburg6694]

+tgjaedan I second this

[@Darkvoidninja]

don't give up. this was helpful for us all. we can now go and play around and find a balance.

[@prmtme5367]

Keep ur head up! Great vid, even tho we didn't get am answer lol maybe do a vid on weapon/ perk/ talent/ skill combos

[@briansalcedo9295]

Common Datto don't feel bad you put a lot of hard work and thought into this and I think everyone who is watching this appreciates it.

[@johnandritchellemartin5568]

+Datto thank you for the continuous effort you put into the videos to make content like this for us. Its very much appreciated..

[@danielthompson7717]

Thanks for the video. The ending was the best part!

[@mpatterson1410]

Love the video, and esp the spreadsheet. My friends chide me all the time about my spreadsheets. Good to know we are of a kindred spirit!

[@MooseMontana1518]

Datto, don't be so hard on yourself! We all make mistakes. You do a great job with these videos, just keep up the good work :)

[@Wheels84ss]

talk about stress. I can see the frustration of trying to parse these numbers and get definitive answers. All i can say is thank you. Know there are some of us here that do care about your effort even if it feels like you are banging your head agaist the coffee table.

[@azraelspeaks]

lol Datto, loved the vid man! Great information, even if it is an approximation. Stay good dude.

[@SSamuelR44]

It's math class ;) I just want to say I LOVE your theory crafting videos and I appreciate all the time you put into making them.

[@MTashed]

great video my friend!

[@raymondbartie6897]

Tash...love your vids bruh. Especially the ones with the Scottish accent. Man you have me LMAO.

[@kurtispuls8527]

As someone that doesn't even play Division, this video was interesting. These theory crafting videos are always intriguing to me.

[@noonemaker49]

Trying to figure out how to get higher DPS and better stats in general without the Internet s help was pretty damn exhausting in this game, I feel your pain

[@immortalcbox8769]

Also crit chance has a cap of 60% or so, just like with armor mitigation. So if you're using pulse with a good amount of skill power you can lower your crit chance and stack more crit damage and make up the loss of chance with pulse.

[@Kestral287]

I certainly wouldn't call you a failure when you addressed the key to it in the first two minutes of the video. "Don't stack them because diminishing returns are a thing" is really the most salient point you could make on this subject, and teaching people what the equation is (and it's really not a hard equation to do, so most everybody can get value from learning it) and what its limitations are is pretty much all anyone could ask for anyway. It's not the perfect answer but that doesn't make you a failure by any means.

[@righteousinwrath2526]

Keep that chin up Datto! And keep the vids up, we appreciate the time and effort that you put into your creations. Question: do you think there is a viable PVP/PVE build focused on stamina and tech? I've been trying but ultimately I am overwhelmed/frustrated. Any ideas? Much love my man!

[@AraiShado]

The ending, reminds me of me when I'm trying to balance all the stats but eventually just fail and waste credits...

[@Mugwam]

You can usually stack both of them on the armour pieces that you tend to put your crit stats on, e.g. Gloves

[@destiny4breakfast815]

Ya, this is one serious issue I have with the Division. They have made the numbers too complicated. The average player cannot make sense of how damage works and what to do in order to get it up. The average player base either gets confused and trusts the in-game DPS calculator to make decisions (which we know is flawed) or gives up entirely. I personally have been using the Pulse ratio as a baseline (3-3.5/1). I expect to have pulse up 80-95% during combat, so I add those bonuses to my damage. I adjust my base stats to keep my overall stats around 3-3.5/1. Additionally, we have to factor in variables that are and are not being picked up by the base stats in the character screen. For instance, the Midas has 13% crit chance while full health which is being picked up on the character screen, whereas my gloves have 13% crit chance (I think it means to targets out of cover) are not. I love your theory crafting videos. Could you possibly do one on the gloves that give 13% crit chance? Is the crit chance given to enemies out of cover or when you are out of cover? Or maybe a video that address the crit chance cap? I hear the crit chance cap is 60%... Does that stack with Pulse? Or any other benefit from items? You could also explain to people what scavenging does. I have had to explain it to many times to people. Scavenging doesn't improve the amount of your drops. It improves the quality of the drops, but if the high quality items are not in the loot table, then it doesn't matter what your scavenging is, you will not get high quality items. Anyways. Thanks Datto and keep up the good work!

[@drkrac]

Not sure if someone else has already said this in the comments but here goes. Damage is a function of both crit chance % and crit damage % and so you want to maximize both. There is no golden ratio. However when you are looking at an upgrade, then you need to be aware of what it is more worthwhile to put points into. The DPS calculator should do this for you, but if you want a basic explanation: If, at the time of upgrade, your ratio of critical damage to critical chance is "X" i.e. (critical damage %) / (critical chance %) = X then, a 1% increase in crit chance is the same as an X% increase in crit damage. Make of this what you will. Edit - of course the Division only reports the "additional damage dealt with a critical hit" so you need to add 100% to it to get your crit damage % as used above. Example: My character is currently at 21.5% crit chance and 25% additional crit damage. X = (100 +25) / 21.5 = 5.814. Therefore I would get the same out of a 1% increase in crit chance as a 5.814% increase in crit damage

[@BOBBYdigital31]

thanks for the info datto, looking forward to more of your division vids, my phone notifies me each time you do. was wondering if you were going to do some character build videos and weapons that compliment said builds. for example I once thought a tanks should have really high health but I'm seeing more youtubers now saying high electronics to boost balistic shield health is better. there are just so many avenues right now and need direction. thanks

[@RB92.]

1:5 has been doing well for me. I know it's demoralising but when it clicks, being able to deliver the correct information is going to be much more satisfying.

[@doitordie13]

Hey dude I care for this hang on it ;) I am an Diablo 3 beta player and still play it and I also play the division, it isn't easy but hey even when you know you don't have an correct answer you still help the people out there to understand how CC and CD works great job datto keep it going Sorry for my bad English xD Greetings doitordie

[@derekspackman2852]

honestly i feel that anyone that is trying to run a CC/CD build just needs to try it out for themselves, start with CC then one you get to a point where you feel your weapon is hitting crits as often as you feel it should, then move on to CD. that being said, talents on your weapon will change this thought process for some people, for example; Self-Preserved talents heals you for a percentage of crit hits. so in those cases(which there are a few) going with a slightly higher crit chance than you may need may be beneficial if your running a ST/EL tank build. so many options keeps this game viable.

[@chaz21b]

Relax Datto, its not like this math is written in Crayola. Plus you just made a video for me to win an argument with one of my buddies, so thanks. Keep up the good work, may not be for everybody, but is perfect for us min maxers. One question if I may, currently I am trying to create as closely as I can a "general" mostly for the purpose of not only being adaptable to any situation and not forcing my self to switch out gear, but also to capitalize on most weapon perks. Do you think this is a good thing to focus for in this game, or should I pick a certain play style I'm good with and focus on that?

[@DemosthenesLok]

This made my head hurt...Thanks for the awesomeness Datto!

[@multidinero]

I appreciate all of your nerdy actions, good sir.

[@mrwaddles22]

I never comment on videos...but I just wanted to say that I appreciate your work even if it turned out the way it did

[@610jw]

I feel like crit damage is moot if those crits aren't proccing so i just aim for crit chance. That said, i think crit chance is capped at 60 or 65% so don't spec past that. Great vid as always Datto.

[@williamjohnson8749]

Basically trying to number crunch in this game (as of right now) is a pain instead of looking at the numbers you need to base your gear selection/recalibration off of the talents/attributes that best suit your role or play style hence multiple sets of gear

[@williamjohnson8749]

Also having just overall damage on gear you are losing out on potential DPS with certain weapon types

[@f0zz0]

this is awesome extremely helpful video I didn't even realize. I just looked at my stats and I'm at 53.50% crit chance and +83% crit damage.

[@jasonc1996]

Im at 49.50% crit chance and 120% crit damage

[@Drawica]

We still love you Datto

[@bartzzz16]

Keep going buddy. You're a legend.

[@hpgamez407]

you are an amazing dude keep the good work

[@Aponte55]

I've been building both on my vector and it's gotten to the point where every other shot is a crit and they're criting for atleast 35k

[@JoshuaWilliams-xq2td]

Your awesome dude. Keep up the good work.

[@1jzcelicasupra]

Crit chance vs crit damage really just depends on the build. Its an issue Ive been around for years. In STO, a cruiser wanted more crit chance, while a DPS focused ship wanted crit damage. And when you have perks/skills that nearly garuntee a crit, the only thing that matters then is damage. Its really just a complicated mess. I think going off of per bullet damage would be the way to go, since a higher damage per bullet would want crit damage to hugely boost an already high damage, while a lower damage per bullet would want crit chance to make up for not having harder hitting rounds.

[@davidodea5881]

+Datto You're NOT a failure . People like me who give up or never even try are failures. You never give up and you give ur best. You deserve full respect for what you do.

[@Lilpiktdude]

Video game. Let it sink in

[@davidodea5881]

Eliseo Alilin I mean, he is a humble guy who does not give himself enuf credit for spending so much time entertaining ungrateful fucks like you who can't appreciate it and got nothing positive to say. So there you go. Fuck off

[@Lilpiktdude]

Fucking degenerate

[@davidodea5881]

Eliseo Alilin Don't comment on things that don't concern you fucking idiot piece of shit

[@thadrog6180]

Really enjoy these videos and you should make more of them! I came over to The Division from Destiny, and The Division is the first game were I am really getting in to stats (and there is a lot of them...). Have been curious about crit chance and crit damage, and the golden ratio of these, for a while.. One comment/question: wouldn't the golden ratio also be dependent on your weapon of choice? if you are landing many shots per second or just a few? SMG vs Sniper for instance?

[@Dynamode8]

Dude you're not a failure, you put in work/research on your content, and besides you gave a us heads up.

[@thechanman707]

Hey I have been working on something very similar. I think an easier way to look at this is to compare the slots where crit chance and crit damage compete against each other and other damage stats. Which is only the magazine and muzzle. All other sources are a damage vs defense comparison, and the answer to that is always: are you dying? If yes go for defense, if no for damage. I'd love to share with you my finds sometime if you're interested!

[@527JonCody]

Basic dps in The Division I believe is regulated by white numbers. When I calculate my vectors 56% crit chance, 190% crit damage with 60% headshot damage, my theoretical TRUE dps is somewhere around 2.5 million per 25 rounds I release doing 100k damage a shot with no buffs; per second. In game my dps is 180k, which I calculated to be right with only white numbers (aka, weapon damage). Kind of wish they factored in the whole crit chance/damage into your dps, but I digress. Other factors are rolling godly on your weapons. Like my High-End Vector has Brutal (headshot damage), Deadly (crit damage) and another one that increases damage by 13% when within 10m, forgot the name. But these also play a factor. It's also aggrivating when the DPS stat on marksman riffles is low. This, again, only accounts for body shots and your clip size with your rate of fire. Completely discounts the crit/ crit damage/ headshot damage. Like, I have 5 rounds, but each round gets 1M headshot crits literally every shot, but only shows as 145k DPS, and I can fire 3 shots a second. Essentially, I'm saying that the DPS stat feels false from what you truly are dishing out, especially with that Talent that has a 50% chance to return a headshot round to the clip. Once had a 13 return streak going with my sniper, was super sexy.

[@pigslayer275]

Wait, what about the headshot damage? That should have been an attribute mentioned.. Though, it is CC vs CD, so i should probably think more.. I'm just wondering this because of weapons like marksman rifles & assult rifles.

[@DattoDoesDestiny]

+pigslayer275 It's difficult to put headshot damage into the equation because headshots aren't something that can be calculated easily. It all depends on player skill. If I could include more variables easily, I would, but this video was made to show JUST the relationship between crit chance and damage and nothing else. Headshots are part of the reason it is so hard to do a DPS simulation because headshot chance is a constantly changing number based on skill, positioning, etc.

[@Serrovin]

+Datto I find the best way to test any gear I use or as i swap out pieces, is to go to the firing range in the basement of the Base of operations. The targets, as best I can tell, use your own stats as a place holder, ie. I'm level 30 with x armor rating and y dps/damage so I could average this much damage per shot and see how often I crit or what I get for damage drop off against the farther target, up close head shots etc etc. Makes for a good test but then "real world" action is varied, lower level enemies or high tier bosses.

[@StayPunk-nn3jw]

+Datto SkillUp's DPS calculator www.divisiondps.com/; Gear cheat sheet: www.reddit.com/r/thedivision/comments/4asqe3/gearing_cheat_sheet/; CHC/CHD bonus on gear: www.reddit.com/r/thedivision/comments/4bran9/gear_optimization_the_list_of_items_with_critical/; On items that can roll both bonuses, the "rate" stays between a 4.8 (magazine) and 5.7 (gloves) CHD for each point of CHC. If you go and match the gear rolls you can achieve with 6 bonuses (gear + weapon mod + weapon talent) you'd see you can max at around 202% CHD and 43.5% CHC, which is 4.6% CHD every 1% of CHC. That brings us close to the "1 in 5" value that you also refined, but it sounds kinda high indeed.

[@saitamasakamoto1373]

+Datto I know this message is not about division but hear me out. I HAVE A CHALLENGE FOR YOU...THE HANDCANON RUN...go through kings fall only using a handcanon but every encounter you have to change your weapon and no one on your fire team can have the same weapon as someone else is for the encounter. E.g. someone using hawk moon...no one else can use hawk moon until the next encounter where veryone swaps.Effectively everyone is using a different primary ALL THE TIME. ADDITIONAL INFO: if anyone on your firetrap runs out of primary ammo that person is aloud to use a special or heavy hover cannot be OP. Swords and sidearms are a perfect t example. Having any of these statements broken results in a wipe. Thank you for taking the time to read this DATTO and I hope you will do this challenge in the future and if so post it on KZbin. Ciao DATTO😀😀😀😀

[@-rayzer--wolf-6474]

headshots don't natively count as Crit but headshots and Crit can stack

[@michaelcrenshaw1703]

I care bro. I always enjoy and appreciate the effort you put out.

[@wagnertr3]

On this video alone I will subscribe. Tell it like it is, even if you don't know. I feel your pain!!

[@TheMike91393]

Stuff like this is why I'm really glad they added the shooting range. Just try different gear and mod combinations, see which gives you the highest numbers. Thanks for the effort though.

[@lewinmg]

still love the videos..keep 'em coming!

[@trey2823]

Love the spreadsheet!

[@TheDraven81]

Well, thank you for trying! This is the kind of stuff I am just not willing to torture myself over... that's why I have Datto!

[@polydivision]

Totally care. Keep them coming. Thanks for the content.

[@Schokokorny]

Thank you for the video dato!

[@nl626c5]

The face-desk slam was certainly deserving of a "Like".

[@BryanLim]

Chin up Datto! All the effort is appreciated nonetheless :)

[@williamb458]

Nice video datto, your salvaged it well ;)

[@skyking3210]

Hi Datoo, I have a crit chance currently between 30 and 37% (apologies I am at work), my crit damage is 130%. My firearms was at 3900+ and is now around 3400+, currently using a wreckless chest piece (13% plus damage) and my DPS and damage is even higher and this seems hidden and not reflected in the actually firearms stat which is now 3400 plus yet it seems to display in DPS, running at least 6 firearms mode, probably at least 4 above 140.Currently doing primary 88k plus headshot damage on the dummy in the BoO. My Vector has Brutal +23%, Responsive +13% damage, and Unforgiving, 10.5% 1st segment, 26% 2nd segment to my memoryMy M1A has had a DPS of 224k, not sure what it is now. I am still a level 31 holster and glove short and couple of gold attachments for both weapons. Also could use more than 1 slot on my chest piece. Damn those Div Techs.

[@yhird]

Great video. Thanks Datto.

[@FoxLift]

Datto, have you experimented with Electronics builds for damage (sticky bomb, turret, smart ball bomb)? I have been wanting to know if it is usable, but at the moment I haven't reached a point where it feels that much useful. It's ok if its not viable, as I can still salvage my build as a medic or team buffer, but still I am interested in knowing if it can be done.

[@glenzennio7256]

+FoxLift There are suddenly some videos about that build, the most important thing is to reduce the cooldowns of the bfb which is most easily done by healing allies with a skill and using triage for 15% cdr per heal which also reduces the allies' cdr as well, so a whole team healing each other instantly can heal or use any other skill again. Max dmg for bfb is 250.000 (or 300.000?) plus 40% from hitting multiple enemies plus 40% when you exploded an enemy in the last 15 seconds plus bomb dmg stats on your gear.