The Division | Purple Gear Solo Dark Zone Experiment

Because the build that I created to prove that the Dark Zone wasn't all about gear and player number wasn't bad enough in the eyes of many people watching the video, I decided to do a full run in the Dark Zone with all purple gear equipped and see how well it went.
This video compresses the 6 hours experience into just a few minutes with the conclusion I was able to get from the result. Let me know ur thoughts.
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[@bleedrainbows9522]

But Marco you gotta use all white gear, no weapons, Melee only, and only run into 4 man rogue groups blindfolded. Ya know, like the average player smh...

[@chrisstatic]

It doesn't matter what he does at this point, people are still going to make up shit to argue against it because they're trash and won't take responsibility for their own actions or their ability in the game and would prefer an easy ride over making effort and will come up with every excuse under the sun.

[@alexanderpetrov7116]

+1 :D

[@MrEjj915]

BleedRainbows hahahahahaha

[@OGTKCole]

Well said Chris Static... Becareful their gonna call you a "Toxic Player"

[@MrMOd3RnW4rF4R3]

The Gaming Effect ™ They're* also the toxic players are ones who complain about shock turrets, call others trash repeatedly, clap or jumping jacks on your body after 12 people shot you etc

[@MulbeeryDeer]

When I first went into the dark zone I thought people could rip the gear you had equipped off your dead body so I was terrified.

[@Haldri.]

MulberryDeer lol same

[@Valentin-iq6js]

if this was the case, i would not make one step into that DZ

[@prettyjaysays]

Ha ha, I put literally everything but what I absolutely needed into the stash because I thought the same thing.

[@rynewby3609]

That would actually be insanely fun though

[@senawarlock5343]

@@rynewby3609 Not really but sure buddy

[@zarryc1687]

Well you're not wrong. It's actually nice to see that the division has a higher skill ceiling than I originally imagined.

[@lankey6969]

Too many kids have a Call of Duty attitude in this game. Just showing up doesn't get you kills. Skill is actually required and most people are not skilled, they just use OP gear and cry when they get folded. Marco, you're giving the community WAY too much credit. lol Kids just want EASY kills. They don't want to actually put in effort.

[@whiteghost1980]

that is why the division need arena for just pvp 12 vs 12 like that for any kind of build with any kind of skill use mobile cover shield smart cover sniper shotgun lmg smg pistol playstyle if not all you see in dz is a any build only with pulse + overdose.i start play it on this game start and boring on 1.3 and stop into dz any more

[@phakpashawa9533]

but dz is made like that no honor in dz

[@timdj-bonezzjones1389]

Lankey Bastard running round hip firing takes skill nowadays?cool

[@user-ub4ep7gt1w]

Tenzin Choeden way off the point dumbass

[@tropolite]

Using the tools and capabilities you have available to you in a game to their best advantage and at the best time is 'skill'. Something I've still got to teach myself is to hip fire more in this game. So, yes, hip firing is a skill (esp on console), so is using well placed grenades, using burst fire weapons and knowing to shoot in bursts to ensure the most percentage in hits rather than the weapon recoiling away from the target, etc.

[@sxuld]

I love this man, crushing excuses of people who don't want to progress..

[@widdz]

im gonna copy this and make video Kappa Nice vid duude

[@sufyanmahmood999]

Marcostyle always make nice Vids kid, u dont need to say it, every one knows that

[@kuzeykutupdayisi]

I'm gonna do the same in the next 2 or 3 days and post it to reddit so we can hopefully shut some people up.

[@Morpheus2031]

I´m interested to see Skill Ups answer on this. I expect he is going to rethink his point of view like you did after the too easy PVE vid. Seeing the great discussions about the game on KZbin it is really sad to see how much Massive is taking position in this game. Respect to you all Marco, Skill Up, Like Butter, Widdz, Upper Echolon gamers and soon. Without you the game maybe would really be dead. Thanks guys.

[@SergetovDaRed]

In your first video you took a less bias approach to the DZ problem. However, in this video, you went all out to try and make the argument of a large portion of the gamer base invalid. The sad thing is that through your own admission, in this video none the less, your skill was not able to overcome the gear gap. You then move the goal post by saying "well people should just farm better and get better gear". This video completely takes apart your argument that gear is not a factor in as much as skill. Moreover, without you knowing it, you proved that the gankfest in the DZ is so bad that you had to change DZ servers something like 3 times, just so you can farm alone and not get ganked. You did that so you can then come back and PVP. Brother, this is exactly the same as players asking for a PVE only DZ so they can farm, and then come to the PVP DZ to have a different kind of fun. You just validated this argument in spades, so I thank you for that. Lets get the devs to create that separate PVE DZ and let everyone enjoy this game to the fullest. Finally, you also unwittingly managed to prove Skillups point that those who INITIATE PVP (Rogues) have a massive advantage over those who are looking not to fight, as in your example when you couldn't help yourself and went rogue on the other guy waiting to extract. Your 2-3 second advantage is enough to put someone on the defensive, causing them to have to use their med/heal and begin at the losing end of the cooldown train. Once again though, you move the goal post by claiming that you can take down someone with average gear, but that wasn't the argument to begin with. I appreciate the time you take to make your videos and communicate your ideas to the public. However, I think you got completely sidetracked as to what the real issues are here, and inadvertently managed to prove almost every argument leveled against you by Skill up and the larger majority of this community. It's apparent that you like to PVP, and you don't feel the same amount of frustration from repeatedly getting ganked as do a lot of people. But brother, that's just your feeling, not everyone's. Simple solution is a separate PVE DZ until they fix the Rogue mechanic. Cheers!

[@Morpheus2031]

Edwin R just think about a PVE DZ: 24 Agents rushing together through DZ6, pushing to be one of the lucky guys who hit the named ones to get loot befor the named is down (24 x Alpha Bridge!!!) to go to the extraction point and staying in th queue with the 24 agents to extract their Items... awesome... I repeat myself: leave the DZ as unfair as it is and add new content for players like you. Dont change the DZ a big part of the community loves, just add raids, open world events for PVP and ranked arenas for PVP. Why do you want to destroy a awesome expirience for us? I´m not saying the DZ is perfect but please dont make it "fair".

[@Mectrex]

Next dz with full green and white weapons and no skills. I don't even know if that's possible

[@Smokes901]

so basically you just told SkillUP to get his SKILL UP.......;)

[@staticrwb5212]

Marco you forgot to wait for the red flags before you PVP

[@x007hunterx4]

lol

[@weirswebsites]

Excellent points, well made. Other than the tips you touched on in this video, would you consider putting out more Skill Guides rather than Build Guides?

[@Bushido_24]

David Weir yeah that's what he should do, make a skill guide

[@MrStolenpictures]

Great idea!

[@brewking2]

This is what people need to get better. Everything he takes for granted that he knows is what thousands of people haven't learned because it's not like it just jumps out at you. His solo PVP build guide hints at some of what you need to know to be better but a NOOB's guide to PVP would be great. To my knowledge nobody has made one. The skills that you master in PVE need to be thrown out the window in PVP and that's not as easy as some people make it out to be. Being killed over and over doesn't teach you about how to time skills and talents. I'm so sick of being told not to aim down sights when that's all you do in the rest of the game, but it is how it is. Maybe making hipfire do half damage would fix that. LOL

[@erickh555]

thats a really good idea

[@ajdimarucot23]

if you want skills for PVP, watch How to become a PVP God by Widdz. Its 7 months old but still applies in 1.5

[@MrPrice2U]

The complaining people are the ones who actually just want to get into a game and "kick ass". No learning, no approving just being awesome! Hey, they payed for the game so why should they have to do anything extra? INSTA GRATIFICATION CROWDS are the reason most games are shallow and dumbed down these days. There are plenty games out there with instant satisfaction value. There is no need to play a game with complex mechanics if you are not willing to invest some time. By the way: there wouldn't be a game industry these days without the dedicated players that kept the game market alive.

[@Aegis.]

andre p nice thinking

[@tonygables626]

andre p i played this game since it came out and that is not true people get lucky getting god roll weapons and gear and got the best build possible while im still struggling getting what i need to get my build going. its not skill in the dz, its luck

[@Troy13x]

andre p bro it was the same shit in street fighter 4. This character has something that's annoying. Capcom nerf plz! Resulted in a lot of characters getting nerfed when they were fine

[@Solidus-]

Tony Gables rng is luck, everything else applies skill

[@mhoop1]

When I want to just go kill stuff I do the underground on normal. Almost like a "warm up" for a gaming session

[@tonymejia5725]

It's 2020 and this is still one of my favorite videos. Great job Marco.

[@SpragginsDesigns]

"Git Gud" - MarcoStyle. Haha. I honestly agree, in the Dark Zone's current form. Before 1.4, it was impossible, somewhat. But I gotta say, I have a wife of 7 years, a 4 year old son, and a very recently born daughter. And a full time job locally driving a propane truck around my city. But I have over 1700 hours on this game since launch. That's between PS4, and when I switched to PC in June. Like any other game, you do need to get better, and learn the ropes. Learn the maps, the boundaries of what you can do, and what you should do given the certain circumstances. But the high risk/low reward system now is terribly unbalanced. I do everything in this game, even PvP VERY rarely. But I do. It took some time for me to learn how to do it, but I did. And I've always had a min maxed build. From the decked out Golds, to maxed out Sentry, etc. I ran a 2 piece firecrest/4 Predators Mark in 1.3 and 1.4, as well as sentry obviously to stack over million head shot crit hits; but never the less I was always learning from This game, always taking away what worked and what didn't. It has a long and difficult learning curve, which has been drastically cut down by 1.4, but there is still a lot for newer or uninformed players to know. Actually putting a simple but somewhat detailed layout of how all gear works, etc in-game for newer players and ones coming back would go a long way I believe. Whatever 1.6 brings us, I'm ready. Cause after my family and 50-60 hours a week at work, I want to play The Division, and not any other game. Maybe WD2, but not really. Good videos Marco. I can see both sides of the view, and one last thing. I've always known what the DZ is. I've been ganked before, I've been 6v1''d before etc. But eventually like you said, you learn to fight against them, or better yet completely avoid them. I agree the DZ can be MUCH better than it's current form and NEEDS big changes. But I still have fun in the DZ. If you want to loot up really quick with no risk, I have 4 Alts, all looted from the LZ. HVTs, Dailies, UG, Survival, etc. I take my time and do it as time allows.

[@donyemcdaniel8908]

Austin Spraggins Jesus man, you just wrote your life story 😂😂

[@whirlywhirly5758]

"this trend of wanting to turn the game into a giant care-bear zone on behalf of the players that are not willing to put the time in, but still want to get all the benefits and the rewards, that has to be shut down." Love it :)

[@M0stHxted]

Honestly Marco, you are the only youtuber that makes me feel confident to go into the dark zone. Keep up the good work.

[@Tubes78]

I got murdered in the beginning because I had no online PvP experience. I never gave up, kept practicing and kept coming. Now I can hold my own and love seeing my efforts pay off. And yes, I've seen my fair share of clapping players before I got better at it. Every player that dropped me thought me something, made me better and I'm thankful for them getting me fired up the keep pushing to kill them. I love DZ and all its unfairness.

[@alidika1168]

michieltoebes man we need more players like you

[@Tubes78]

Ali Dika you grow and learn from defeat. What's the point in an easy game is what I think.

[@alidika1168]

michieltoebes people want easy kills and gameplay you can't get this in the dz this is why the division pvp is unique

[@mrdrebin123]

Whilst that is true pvp is nothing to do with skill it's just having a glitchy, and or god build that you can only beat with the same build- And be the last to pop healing. Division pvp has nothing to do with skill, hell it's basically a different game than pve, as in pve you actually have to take cover. In pvp players just run around eachother.

[@ooDirtyWorkoo]

mrdrebin123 if Division PVP takes no skill, go challenge some of the known better players to a 1v1 and beat them (no skills allowed just guns). Show them it takes no skill. Show them how talented you are and that they are all just good at popping heals and builds. Challenge them to a diversified build 1v1. That is, no 2, 3 or 4 piece sets. No named set pieces. Go beat a popular PVP player in a guns only 1v1 like that and show the world that The Division takes no skill

[@2Telos]

Hehe Great stuff as always Marco!

[@MikeHighstone]

Well done Marco and nicely put.

[@gary259]

Yes Marco! Love the shut down of the Care Bears at the end there too! Top man

[@thisguyisnotable]

this is a great video, and it changed my opinion on the dark zone as a whole. miss you marco!

[@mhoop1]

I've always stayed away from the dark zone until recently. The daily missions have me exploring the areas and learning that I stand a better than average chance in 1 v 1 pvp. It's actually opened up a large bit of "new" experiences for me and I now am quite fond of it. I still get ganked occasionally and steer clear of any groups whether they are rogue or not, but that is part of pvp.

[@doctoreplay]

Wow skillup's video must've hit you really hard for you to put yourself through all of this to prove a point.

[@likahmac]

Salim B. it was widdz's idea to prove his point even further, widdz was folding 256 players with purple gear. I probably will never be as good as Marco and widdz but I do practice when I can

[@mrtee4322]

MarcoStyle I loved the video, and couldn't agree with you more when it comes to the skill gap. I left a pretty lengthy response to skill ups last video about this topic, and you covered all the points beautifully. I just feel that alot of the player base isn't taking skill ups montra to heart, as I read more comments about people crying, rather than getting good. Awesome video man keep it up.

[@OpticalResonator]

Clearly it hit KZbinrs who saw that giant comments section and thought "gotta get in on this".

[@EnlightenedBitFox]

Great Job, great words and great Video. Like the last time you once again bring it to the point, there is nothing left to say. Thx you so much !

[@Fanfictation]

Fantastic video Marco! Excellent explanation!

[@MrSethEdward]

BOOM! Thank god for you Marco! That's why you're the smartest player in the game. Bad players just need to stay away from the Dark Zone if they can't PVP. Or, just play Mass Effect LOL. You have no idea how happy I am about this video dude. Thanks!

[@ogcipher4967]

Oi m8 don't you badmouth mass effect ... At least not the first 3 games

[@MehmetN]

Dude, if I'll ever PvP, that'll be because of this video. Good job.

[@Aurushi83]

Great vid man! Loved those final words! :D

[@garretthunt1598]

Wow. I never comment on videos but this is one of the most thought out and highly educational content I have ever seen. Well done man. That is awesome!

[@PmHoZ]

"This trend of wanting to turn the whole game into a giant care bear zone on behalf of the players that are not willing to put the time in, but still wanting to get all the benefits and the rewards. That has to be shut down." Well put dude, I agree 100%. Good video man, sad that I missed the stream. Props man.

[@plushalfling9971]

I fucking hate hackers!

[@arunnr1259]

i appreciate what your doing man. i enjoy your content. keep the good work Bro

[@tipmn2979]

Great video bro! I wasn't completely on your page till watching this and I completely agree now! Well done. Keep up the great work!!

[@SteelCity14]

they should add "no dz keys lost" to the banshee 4 pc as well imo 😉

[@Mercenary-1914]

I would like to see something like this: Backpack = Keep most items upon death (Ninja Backpack) Chest Piece = Prevents Shock Status Effect Mask = Run and use weapon while on fire (Ferros Mask) Knee Pads = Allows you to run faster while not rouge "Maybe +2 Speed?" Gloves = No lost keys if dies to a rouge Holster = Can still run while on bleed status

[@harambe2650]

Skills matters maybe less than other games but still it's a big factor !! GG Marco

[@drascula3806]

Smeson Yes, but gear is also a big factor in this game.

[@lukedonnelly2069]

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[@lilililiililliil7277]

gear doesn't matter as much anymore though since it is so easy to come across. Also this game takes a different kind of skill than most shooters. Most shooters you use your twitch reflexes to land a couple of bullets. This game however is based on twitch reflexes, aiming consistency, prediction pathing, and pathing consistency. To kill a player with an ar in the game at the highest level you have to be able to land at least 2-3 full kits into that player's head. I know you can obviously kill players faster than this, but if you ever watch people like widdz and exuhz 1v1 people of equal skill it goes all the way down to 0 medkits because hitting a target who is doing a sprint cancel strafe at the right time is extremely hard even for players with god like aim.

[@Mercenary-1914]

The thing is Skill is not isolated to movement, aiming...and attacking people in the DZ... Skills are ALSO defined by.....How to farm without being engaged by other players. How to extract your loot. How to get out of a 4 man squad trying to jump you....etc etc..

[@lilililiililliil7277]

Mercenary 1914 I don't consider any of those things to be skillful at all because they are so easy my 8 year old little sister can do it. She loves the dark zone and all the salty hate messages that comes with it.

[@BravoSierra]

Marco, you are the LAW! Thank you very much for yours videos. I like it very bloody much. Greetings from Bulgaria!

[@onelazykid20]

Great video Marco! You're the best!

[@fluffs753]

Marco, can you make a "How to PvP" and go through the fundamentals and/ or advance techniques which you can do in PvP? This would help people like me, who do ONLY PvE who are trying to get into PvP without getting our ass kicked

[@thatoneguy050]

Britz Fluffy I'll tell you how to. Learn to hipfire, learn to roll, and learn to use bleed procs to prevent people from running. That's some fundamentals right there.

[@fluffs753]

What advantage does bleed bring to the table? And should I consider predators mark?

[@thatoneguy050]

Bleed makes a target unable to run(only applies to players). Have you never had bleed proc?

[@fluffs753]

ThatOneGuy Barely, I never really noticed it all that much because I mainly play PvE and bleed only really matters when it's on you...

[@thatoneguy050]

Britz Fluffy Well, bleed on players causes damage over time and makes you unable to sprint. Bleed on NPCs just applies DoT.

[@zerofire3172]

I went from gs 185 to 202 in 2 hours playing underground

[@ithinkalways]

MarcoStyle is on point as usual!

[@Neon_EG]

Just yes. Everything you said in this video is spot on!

[@CaliburPANDAs]

For every cry baby rage post about DZ pvp/ganking put up on Reddit or Ubisoft Division forums, I'm going to refer them to this video. Well done Marco, Bravo.

[@Michael-1337]

Really goes to show how wide the skill gap can be in this game. I like skill gap but it has to be reasonable and in the division the skill gap is not reasonable. PvP in the division is odd at best. Face tanking everything at point blank range while waiting for your opponent to run out of heals. Getting that stun grenade hit so you get a free kill. Using a signature to regen back to full health while still taking hits. It all adds up to a strange PvP experience that many players just don't care for. I think kill times are too long right now and there is too much healing and cover based combat is no where in sight. There is no denying that PvP is just a broken mess right now and it needs to be fixed. The devs wanted it to be a complete troll fest which they somewhat succeeded in but this only appeals to a very small minority of the player base and just runs off everyone else.

[@Solidus-]

Michael Vinson use cover if you don't see it often and you're forgetting this a a RPG/Mmo. Things like talents skills and armor come into play

[@thatoneguy050]

Royal Solidus What he's saying is that nobody uses cover. There is a skill gap, but the biggest thing is a gear gap.

[@Solidus-]

ThatOneGuy if that's the case elaborate how this guy just went manhunt purple gear and killed mid maxed players with purple gear. Skill gap is way bigger

[@thatoneguy050]

Royal Solidus He knows the DZ inside and out. But that's what happens when you spend all your time in there. The only skill I can really think of is learning how to hipfire and roll.

[@theman19327]

I would defs agree there is a skill gap (I'm taking a break before I dive back into the DZ, but in no way am I a skilled DZ player) and it's much bigger than the gear gap. However, Michael does have a point about kill times, as long as it takes so long to down a player, there's no incentive to use cover because people can just facetank and rely on aim skill and strafing. It's not necessarily bad, just prioritizes different skills in the game. It's really up to Massive whether or not they want to incentivize cover more, or leave that aspect of PvP as is.

[@TravelandLuxury1]

This is a awesome black and white video!!! THANK YOU!

[@ryanvorobiev3008]

Great job Marco, I have a new respect for you.

[@ricanboul215]

the simple fact that he says skill is the biggest gap not gear but with all his skill and shitty gear he admits it's a struggle is exactly the point people make about the DZ your gear enhances your skill and until then your skill in the game can't overcome that gap

[@paulmasters8666]

This is spot on and i hope Massive never caves in to the horde of entitled whiny children that complain about having no skill in DZ...

[@DJ-up6ft]

Paul Masters what's your problem though with a PvE DZ? It just mean you will know face people who will want to PVP! Or do you NEED unwilling players to gank?

[@paulmasters8666]

My problem is it's not necessary you can gear up way easier with the other forms of PvE but it takes players out of the only real form of PvP depopulating the DZ. The Dark Zone is meant to be for PvP not another loot grind/farm...

[@CSquared092]

getting ganged up on is part of the DZ. dont like it? dont go in there. dont know why this concept is so hard for you pve carebears to understand

[@angelo.3463]

DJ1234 SR PvP is allowed ONLY in the DZ. You have 80% of the map to PvE, get out the DZ then. You dont even get the best gear in the DZ.

[@tropolite]

+Paul Masters +DJ1234 SR I think the essential point here is players want a more challenging PVE experience, and seeing this in the DZ i.e. saturated with more challenging NPCs that respawn quickly instead of daily, weekly or 4 hourly, chests that can be looted over and over, caches that can be looted from cases around the DZ with no real limitation. If the LZ was more like the DZ in this respect there would be no need for a dedicated PVE DZ (maybe the need to include Hard mode on the Tier levels for those wanting more of a challenge?). Those that like the DZ the way it is (me included), can still farm if we wish to find that piece we are seeking but we also have the excitement of PVP action around the corner. There will always be those that enter the DZ and it will not disappear, but adding more elements of a PVE DZ to the LZ would encourage those that have left the game 'because it is getting boring in the open world' something to do and enjoy till a story expansion etc.

[@TheEquilibrum007]

really nice vid man, one of the best for a while, subbed you for almost a year =)

[@Jowcke]

Good video dude, I really enjoy your streams as well. They are verry informative which is verry rare on twitch. Keep up the good work Marco! :)

[@kingwafer209]

You gotta understand Marco that everybody now a days is going to be hurt or offended if it's not their way. No matter how much you try to tell them "this is the way it is" they will not listen even if it is fact. I'm not trying to be mean or anything but it is the truth no matter how you look at it.

[@ValkyrieLightwing]

The ending of this video was kinda all over the place. The original video was just you disagreeing with SkillUp's idea of going into the DZ with set gear so everyone is equal, however at the end of this you also threw in the idea of making the DZ a carebear arena needs to go. Some people that want PvE DZ aren't necessarily carebears. The LZ is just too big with too little mob density to efficiently farm it and still have fun. The DZ is the opposite. The mob density is just perfect, and the environment itself is just way better and more atmospheric than the LZ. I seriously can't see how the PvE DZ is a bad idea. It's the same as getting look in the PvE area, and if you want to try out your build in PvP, then you go do PvP DZ. There is a pretty big skill gap, yes, but there is also a huge build gap. Certain compositions of builds can make a team unstoppable, whether they are garbage players or not. As a mix player, I'd rather fight players of my skill level, because I'd rather not get shit on, or shit on other players because it just doesn't feel fun. With the PvE DZ, that most likely would be solved. PvE DZ would give all the lesser geared or PvE oriented players a place to go when their buddies aren't online, or when they just want a place to burn time, and the people in the PvP DZ would be more willing to actually do PvP, making the battles much more enjoyable and much more worth it. The amount of people I see get shit on in the DZ when trying to solo farm is unbelievable. It's no fun for anyone, and if you get fun out of killing solo farmers while in a group, you're awful. I can only see positives out of getting a PvE DZ.

[@perun988]

Epic points of view... absolutely 100% correct about everything you said in this video without a single comment too argue over. Excellent work Marco!

[@ericclarkva]

OMG Marco the way you ended this video had me in stitches!!!

[@clemleborgne5336]

Widdz did some 1vs1 with purple gear (204GS) against 256GS and won... LUL

[@lllCTHULHUlll]

So, let me see if I understand this video properly. You decked yourself out in purples with the intent of soloing the Dark Zone. Then, when you ran into trouble, you opted to match-make into an alternate Dark Zone where you were no longer experiencing the caustic PVP which was preventing you from extraction. You just proved the point of many of the people you're railing against. You' act as though queueing for an alternate Dark Zone is a genius maneuver no solo player has ever thought of. But first things first, people have to be able to escape the Dark Zone WITH the loot they had for changing instances to be worthwhile. There's an infinite number of factors (your position, rogue positions, land obstacles, knowledge of map, etc; etc;) that will contribute to whether or not another player can successfully escape an engagement. And, if those players outnumber and outgear you - forget it. What you proved was that you had to sneak out in order for your extraction to even be possible. Your escape had nothing to do with you being skilled or the other players being skilled. You were forced to use the game in a way that was not necessarily intended to avoid losing everything you had received during that play session. Was this the wise choice? Yes. Is it good game play? Hell no. Being forced into a specific play-style (hiding in the shadows and praying no one is behind you) isn't PVP. That's PVE with a bunch of people PVPing around you.

[@thetute59]

While this holds truth, he wanted to show that you can do it alone with shitty gear. And in a geargame you're not really supposed to beat players who are better geared than you let alone outnumber you. If you play solo with shitty gear he showed a fair way to still get loot and survuve.

[@fishjoe1651]

Thats exactly what the dark zone is its a pve place with people pvping around u, thats the point its a different experience and a break from all the call of duty multiplayer normal pvp games

[@kappatalism6969]

I guess you missed the part where it only takes 5-10 minutes to rack up a full bag of loot.

[@AmericanPoliceState]

To be honest most of the fights are ability, medkit, grenade and roll spams. Then after that you are allowed to get a kill so long as you have the right OP gear, team mates, and the hit detection doesnt decide to fuck you.

[@jBownz]

Well said AND demonstrated Marco!

[@olfer8451]

great video Marco!!! you know the numbers

[@Kicekicikol]

I don't pvp much, but I 100% agree with you : don't make the DZ a pve zone !

[@YOGGaming]

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[@spawntarget1587]

Marco, I appreciate your efforts, and I really enjoy your build videos ,I am sure many others do as well, they are very informative. All of your video`s on the use of skills are second to none. I really like the reclaimer/medic build, No one on the internet that I could find, has done the testing that you and your friends have, concerning how the skills work (or don`t ) and recorded it for everyone`s benefit, all of the players that have watched your videos on how the medic skills work ect. owe you (and your friends) a thank you, for spending your time testing these skills and making videos for all of us to benefit from. So Thanks Marco and Friend`s. Believe it or not, this kind of help or really in depth information is actually, pretty rare. Most of the other channels that I have watched about The Division, are videos of DZ game play where the protagonist, is just trash talking or yelling into the microphone at people he killed, or people that killed him and there is no information to be gained by listening to that , so pretty much a waste of time to even go back to that channel because what can you learn about the game by watching some dude run around in a circle and call people bitches for an hour, I have played PvP in many , many games but sometimes when 4 of my best friends are all online, and on Teamspeak at the same time, we would rather coordinate our builds and take on a Heroic mission, as a group and have a ton of fun, instead of going into the DZ, Does this make us "Care Bears"? , IClubCareBears must be directed at PvE players and that`s fine Marco, except that the majority of players that may watch or use one of your builds other than Alpha Bridge, just might be PvE CareBears, so you could be shooting yourself in the foot by disrespecting half of your viewers by naming yourself, IClubCareBears, I dont really care but I think (please dont Gank Me)was a much better all around choice. No matter what you do, No matter how much purple only gear is used, the fact is, you can never enter the DZ and have no Idea where you are like a new player with purple gear, and no idea where to find caches, vendors or named elites, you can not erase your memory of the map, or the time that you put in playing many hard fought hours in PvP, and the ways to escape a group that you figured out by yourself, you did very well with purple gear in this example, there is no doubt that you know exactly what you are doing, this is not going to happen with someone who just bought the game, more than likely they would post a complaint on the steam forums that they ran into this guy name Iclubcarebears that was the same rank as them and he killed us all with a spoon he had in his back pocket so please.. don`t do this anymore Marco, because we all know you can overcome most situations , What we really need is a very good video of you soloing Clear Sky with one of your builds, you can turn it down to When it comes down to it, the 1.6 update will change PvP, we dont know how things will change just yet but.... I encourage you all who play The Division to have more respect for each other, because it does not cost you anything to say "Sorry Dude"

[@skip_rossetti1003]

I watched the stream the other day. and the vid was even better good job

[@honestdude]

Congrats, you proved someone with 1000+ hours in darkzone can gear up in darkzone on a new character.

[@Solidus-]

honestdude I mean he even showed you how to exactly, essentially this is what solo plebs who have no skill in pvp have been complaining about. The fact of the matter, the indisputable truth is; you need actual player to player positioning and skill to play the darkzone.

[@thatoneguy050]

Royal Solidus You have to learn how to spray and pray, and how to roll. That's not skill, that's shitty design.

[@karara5532]

+ThatOneGuy lol and the lag is pretty bad

[@MDWavemaster]

honestdude this yes

[@ooDirtyWorkoo]

So your suggesting that when a player hip fires they are not aiming their shot? See, that might be why you get folded.

[@warcloudwu5698]

I've always said the division biggest problem is not jus the bugs, rng, metas, DZ mechanism. ..its the egos of the community that play it no none ever ready to admit they got beat alway oh lag, oh mpc , oh my heals not working .

[@SupremeKai_Omniverse]

WarCloud Wu You Are Do True, My Only Problem With The Division Now Is Tactical Link In The DZ & Everything Comes Down To Hip Fire. But Also The Lack Of Build Diversity Cause Everything Gets Nerfed

[@theantisystemdreamer2385]

WarCloud Wu I agree but 99% of the DZ issues are still the bugs and laggy servers (consoles) ruining player's experience (casual and hardcore).

[@MDWavemaster]

WarCloud Wu yes dude. Did you see Marco go nuts when he killed a guy? He's done that probably 10 thousand times. And he still goes nuts over it.

[@warcloudwu5698]

Kai Lofton Yeah build diversity is the most important thing for them to focus on now .

[@warcloudwu5698]

MDWavemaster yeah hr gets hype ....but I like Marco tho, yeah he gankes but he gankes groups solo ..

[@xXstrAnGeR0usXx]

Great straight up and truthful video. One of the best content creators because of the vast knowledge and understanding you have of this game. Why massive doesn't take your videos and info more into consideration is beyond me? GGs Marco

[@knightmare716]

Great video Marco keep it coming

[@kevinstyle1107]

Marco, your video means that if people play in dark zone for hundreds and thousands of time like hard core players like you, they will not die even with wearing purple gears. It does not make sense for average players. If you put one of your friends who can play The Division for 2 - 3 hours per day because of working and show if he can play like you, It would be better and more persuasive. I'm not saying you are totally "wrong." I agree that there is no huge problem in DZ at all. but its just your video tells that " just become hard core player " like you.

[@Judokast36]

Finally someone that posts something exactly how I was thinking. How is a guy who plays the Division for fun, and not to be on youtube or Twitch and plays 2-4 hours a day supposed to even compete with people that play 8-12 hours a day? That is what is a bit frustrating with alot of these vids, they keep saying "Noob build", but they seem to forget what a real Noob build is or would be and have items no noob would have. A shame DZ is mainly gank, but will stick to the PvE areas myself since I am a total solo player.

[@someaussiekidd]

Just don't gear up in the dark zone if you aren't good at pvp, it's really not that complicated, come back when you have better gear

[@Viper3220]

I don't want the DZ to be some kind of care bear zone. I'm good at pve but suck at pvp. Even watching you pvp makes me cringe. I love your videos they're very informative but the crazy high sensitivity zig zagging, the ridiculous close quarters hip fire dance you do... Playing like that does not interest me. Even if I could kill everyone doing that shit I never would. The problem is the DZ isn't JUST a pvp zone. It has pve content and it's abundantly clear a big chunk of development time was spent on it. That's a problem because the overwhelming majority hate it as well. It's a big chunk of the game that most of the player base hates. That's an issue they need to take seriously going forward for the division 2.

[@blancodiablo8788]

Diggin your videos and your gameplay. As much as this game can get on my last nerve, still one of my favs and I've sunk almost 40 logged days into my first character

[@iLiKeEnRiX]

I really like this idea. Good job Marco, really well done. Really appreciated. Everyone who is crying about PvP and the dark zone should watch this video and learn!

[@fredfuchs5600]

7:53 is the exact moment, why ppl want a PvE DZ. This isn't fun.

[@austinker6922]

Lmao dont play DZ then, that is exactly the point of the DZ, to fuck people.

[@briancruz1267]

Fuchs Fred be observant and stay away from that area, I run into solo players daily and just avoid them or wait for them to pass

[@Mercenary-1914]

+Fuchs Fred the point of the DZ is exactly what you dont like. That's why they made the PVE area drop gear like Candy. It was to appease people like you who don't like the fuckery in the DZ.... In all honesty....you can avoid all those things by avoiding people.. If you are in the DZ to farm...farm places like contaminated zones and underground....if you see rogues pinging in south, go farm up north..if there are rogues all over your map. Just server transfer. Call fake extractions... Play the DZ like it's end game...don't go in there half assing it. The DZ was supposed to be our end game along with incursions....but people cried so much...the DZ has become only a place to commit fuckery.

[@marksmanxvx]

Fuchs Fred you really think a pve darkzone would be fun that sounds so boring why would someone ever want that

[@liamjenkins82]

Kingserpent 101 I'm guessing because not everyone is really into PvP. I'm not really. but I still go in the dz just for laughs. I always enjoy the appreciation I get when someone kills me!!! ha ha. but luckily for me I have the cruisey attitude. you die in the dark zone rogue or not rogue you don't really lose anything. but I understand not everyone has a care free attitude so would like to just farm the dark zone without the grief. higher enemy density. different darker atmosphere. I'd kind of like the idea of a dark zone ( or another large area) with really hard enemies, a bit like in 1.3 where it was a real challenge.

[@siwakeman6410]

Your point is just a 10 minute video with the whole point basically being "get good bro" not everyone is good at games, not everyone has the capacity to learn and improve, not everyone has youtube channel showcasing skills on games. whether you like it or not you are in the 1% the dark zone is not fun, and needs fixing, it is not enjoyable when you are solo, and have medium gear or high end gear, the division community is the worst online gaming community I have ever been involved with and I'm 40 and have been around snce the first CODS. The toxic community has ruined the experience let's face it even rival division uploaders hate each other, troll each other, and make response videos, so when the community "leaders" don't get along what hope does the game have. It's full of cheaters hackers and gankers, that will than troll you with messages and clapping over your corpse, the %of pvp encounters where you lose and think "that was close gg" is low,which is a shame, I like the dark zone because it is not monotonous I'm facing elite enemies and danger at every turn,and to earn my rewards I have to face more danger by extracting, I don't want to grind out the same mission for 3 days straight, I'm a pve player, but I like pvp encounters, it is sadly not balanced, there should be a matchmaking option. PVE and PVP dark zone, a team based matchmaking option and a solo option,.

[@clm652]

" 1% " is an excuse that entitled marxist millennial cunts throw around bc they suck, in game and at life.....and they suck precisely bc of that mindset. I assure you they stomp their feet and scream at anyone who has had more success than them in life, crying " lucky 1%...wahhhhhhh". You're 40, you should be ashamed of yourself. It's a disgusting parasitic mindset and it destroys entire nations. And BULLSHIT, everyone has the capacity to learn and improve, it's literally the engine of evolution, it's inherent to the design of life you miserable failure. Quit spreading your cancer.

[@henrymonroy9533]

Love the attitude and points made

[@danielo1444]

You and SkillUp have such wonderful points of view on the DZ. both very convincing. I'm both subscribers to you guys. And seeing the diversity in opinions and things that need to be done about the DZ are excellent. I absolutely can't wait to see what Massive has planned. I may not be the "one percent" but I definitely enjoy pvp like anyone else and I know it needs improvements

[@joshuamcclellan4942]

Stop trying to stroke your ego.

[@Solidus-]

Joshua McClellan elaborate, do you feel you can say that because despite what he was wearing he accomplished thing where your skill level cannot?

[@joshuamcclellan4942]

Royal Solidus It just seems like he's just saying hey look at how good I am at the game. Don't just assume someone can't play the game just cause they make a comment it seemed like he was just stroking his ego. And I wasn't speaking to you so shut the fuck up.

[@Solidus-]

Joshua McClellan coming from some kid who says "it just seems" you literally hold zero merit here, because "what it seems" like is you can't wrap your head around anything he is saying. Get Good.

[@rngzus4537]

sir this whole video was made to prove the argument that skill actually provides a bigger gap between players than gear does, and if you are not comfortable with yourself enough to watch him use only his own skill to prove this point then you should not watch this video. simple as that.

[@AKSBSU]

+Joshua mcClellan Stop trying to deceitfully dismiss legitimate positions while contributing nothing yourself.

[@dragonfox402]

Thank you for making this video I now completely understand how to take the dark zone now.

[@mysticspawn]

I like ur videos man. Keep it on :)

[@visdomr738]

Great vid brother. this is why i sub you man. i am that solo player who doesnt understand build mechanics and plays on console. its hard at times sure. but i always leave your vids knowing a little more to help keep me alive that little bit longer dude. Thank you man

[@yihong5379]

Can't agree more. Finally a videos making sense of the DZ about what it should be and what player should do with it.

[@resistro]

YOU ARE STUPENDOUS, BRO. THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN. A good Dark Zone is a dirty, challenging and obscure Dark Zone.

[@Luica1]

First of all thank you Marco for going through all this hard work to prove a point with the ultimate goal of making "our" game and community better! No matter what game I play that envolves PVP people always find excuses other than "I am not that good!" "I didn't play that well" , "I still have a lot to learn". 0% accountability, always blame something else. It's so nice to have guys like you, widdz and Disturbedgaming f.e. to help us get better and to enjoy ourselves through your content. Keep up the great work.

[@aarrow23]

hey @Marcostyle I'm enjoying your videos and it really is helping me get better just wondering tho, what main weapons do you run with when you are solo, on your main character?? just trying to get a gun that fits for me.

[@furlyghost]

experience is the sole reason you progressed as far as you did so quickly. i just got back into it since i bought at launch and ran the same route you did with an experienced player i met at an extraction. got to were i mow npcs but lack pvp experience. but I'm workin on it!

[@yaelcarrasquillo1675]

long live king Marco! ! great vid! like always.

[@kiranearitachi]

i dont get how you do so well with builds like this i just get instantly melted

[@traviscantero6158]

Great video! Your hard work and dedication to the game is admirable.

[@dhiggins]

I respect your ideas and everything and ik ur done with the division for a while but how would u recommend practicing ??

[@davesobani9565]

Good vid man , i'm impressed.

[@tomtancredi9617]

THANK YOU! Perfect this is what I been DYING TO SEE!!!! How it is done. I would love to see more vids by the 'others' out there doing the same thing, showing the moves and differences. Hmmmm. Okay, you have convinced me of what your saying, and your end statement makes alot of sense. Now I understand the "get good" comments by you 1% players whom do put in the honest effort for honest gain and why your viewing it that way. That there is 'tricks' to the game you have to skill into to gain the higher reward.

[@squiredan1435]

I don't even play the division nor do I watch it on KZbin and yet I still find your videos entertaining. Bravo.

[@GedTV]

You just watched it on KZbin.

[@squiredan1435]

True

[@ROGUE_ZER0]

awesome job man! 👏👏👏

[@mattshields6705]

As a casual-core player, was really interested to see this video. Thanks for putting this together, Marco!

[@AWPtical800]

My god marco, going for the jugular with that ending. Well done.

[@jerkoff06]

CobaltRose249 but still missed if you consider the PvP to be fucking dire in this game and it's nothing to do with rewards, killing, dying, griefing etc. It's just fucking rubbish to play! Also, while he was 'going for the jugular' the video showed him zigzagging, spamming grenades at his own feet, circling, hip firing, waiting for cooldowns while doing all this for skills to come back up. Not knocking Marco, it's how the game must be played and he's exceedingly good at it, but that doesn't change the whole mechanics of it being shit.

[@JustinMarkwalter]

Man.... I was blown away with the hip fire kills and was so excited to get on and try it more than realized this was old. Oh how i miss the old hip fire =[

[@baltasargamingshow3205]

you gave me hope again!!! thanks!!! I will commit to my personal skills!!!

[@fossthehoss]

You are pretty rad bro. Gave me a new perspective on the game. Thanks dude.

[@mi8ky2006]

Awesome video and awesome work, love it wen Sumone proves a point :)

[@rain0173]

I miss marco's division videos. Hands down the best division KZbinr there is.

[@eligomez5650]

Loved the wall reference Marco

[@dannymack7310]

man aiming on PC looks fucking amazing!! great video man - love it

[@recode8453]

LOVE IT MARCO!!!

[@igornvidal]

Well done!