The Do's and Don'ts of Error Handling • Joe Armstrong • GOTO 2018

[@SahinKupusoglu]

RIP, Joe Armstrong; I learned about you too late, but will certainly study your work.

[@valethemajor]

"Kubernetes--" Joe: 'Who? Who's that?' LOL

[@esdrasmayrink9057]

What a fantastic mind. Sad to hear about your parting, Joe. The world was better with you here.

[@JeremyAndersonBoise]

Esdras Mayrink oh no! I am so sad to hear this news. The world is darker without him, surely. Rest in peace, Joe.

[@manujbhallaindia]

RIP Joe Armstrong your work made significant impact on software industry

[@koredeaderele1666]

the emphasis on "messaging" in OOP, makes it seem like there's a lot more inherent similarity between FP and fundamental OOP

[@JeremyAndersonBoise]

Korede Aderele; I believe that’s because almost everyone misapprehends the historical essence of OOP as described by Alan Kay. OOP is about messaging between objects, not about instantiating Classes.

[@AlNewkirk]

Fwiw, OOP doesn’t prescribe encapsulating state. That’s just how most people do it.

[@nolan412]

Smalltalk actually did Erlang style message passing. (Joe says I was wrong.)

[@thelonearchitect]

Amazing talk, a shame the sound is so bad...

[@JeremyAndersonBoise]

If Joe isn’t among your heroes then you’re still a junior dev.

[@Zhuinden]

Joseph Leslie Armstrong (27 December 1950 - 20 April 2019) was a computer scientist working in the area of fault-tolerant distributed systems. He is best known as one of the co-designers of the Erlang programming language. Died‎: ‎20 April 2019 (aged 68) :/

[@D4no00]

if the concepts he is talking about here are foreign for you, then you are a failed developer, enjoy your salary and don't make the community a toxic place.

[@ME0WMERE]

@@D4no00 that's to say nothing of experience .-.

[@venkatrajanala6841]

Rip Joe!

[@CottidaeSEA]

Wrap your main/entry point in a try-catch and pretend like nothing bad is happening.

[@alibarznji2000]

Hahahahahaha, that's what JS devs do lol

[@CottidaeSEA]

@@alibarznji2000 JS devs don't even know what will throw because the language is damn awful at telling them. try-catch the world almost makes sense at that point.

[@alibarznji2000]

@@CottidaeSEA lol, I've been a JS dev myself for the past 6 years and I would have to agree, the error handling is so awful that I wanna puke. Not just that, documentation is like cancer in JS code, also writing tests is nowhere near the level of support it has for a language like Elixir. I've been learning it for a while now and I cannot believe that I've spent so many years in the wrong stack, it's a shame that it doesn't have many jobs tho, I'm forced to write JS for a living and that's not fun

[@ximalas]

16:51 Does anyone know what happened to the Bluetail Mail Robustifier?

[@altanozlu8268]

Requescat in pace

[@albertofunk1167]

I call silent and deadly errors "ninja errors" 😀

[@ujin981]

"You can program in Rust and things like that or whatever and maybe you can prove it to be correct" and then get hit by lightning =)

[@eyaswoo1483]

What if Michael Palin was a computer scientist.

[@stevestorck4788]

The word "do's" is not correct. If it was, why isn't its counterpart written as "don't's"? The answer is that an apostrophe is not punctuation to denote plurality.

[@ДимитърДимитров-с2з]

Interesting but too abstract.

[@robchr]

You can read more detail in Joe's dissertation "Making reliable distributed systems in the presence of software errors".

[@JeremyAndersonBoise]

Because your thinking is, as of yet, insufficiently abstract to derive value from it. Best wishes for the future!

[@jaythomas3180]

@@JeremyAndersonBoise I looked up pompous in the dictionary and it linked me to your comment.

[@williamrusnack6829]

@@jaythomas3180 Jeremy is pompous but correct

[@alibarznji2000]

I recommend looking into a language like Elixir and you'll understand almost all of this presentation, as he says

[@christopherstamp9716]

Concurrency is the execution of independently executable tasks. It doesn't mean they all are executing at once...

[@JeremyAndersonBoise]

Christopher Stamp a fact not lost on Mr. Armstrong. Was your comment a shallow criticism, or did you have a deeper observation to make?

[@nobodygone1763]

If you want to get pedantic even if you neglect the fact that the model and runtime he's promoting satisfy both properties because concurrent tasks are performed on multiple cores. Even if he's using a single threaded event loop on a runtime with a GIL because he's running the code on multiple machines it is still both concurrent and parallel. Honestly in general when it comes to nerds the ones who are super invested in pedantry and jargon are full of shit or are just OCD and hard to work with.

[@ImaginaryNumb3r]

What a nice person. The talk was delightful, albeit useless.

[@alialrahahleh676]

ImaginaryNumb3r why though ?