The Dominion War: April 2375

[@Nostripe361]

With Romulans and Federation forces fighting together before being the last two true dominant powers in a Cold War over the quadrant and the war devolving I into grueling advances and battling over salients. This whole war looks a lot like the Western and eastern fronts of the Second World War combined. Almost poetic for the Federation’s worst war to mimic one of the nastiest wars in human history.

[@terrencechilds8984]

Wow you really know what you are doing here thinks and please keep the videos coming

[@ussvoyager8650]

Your videos R amazing i really enjoy watching them & I really liked the pic @ the end of the Romulan D'deridex Warbird the Galaxy class the Sovereign class & the Klingon Negh'var

[@balrighty3523]

One thing I'm wondering in all this: where is Shinzon? We know he and his Reman brothers were in some of the more vicious parts of the war, but we're only told of their involvement after the fact. It'd be neat to have it shown, even if he is still just a footnote in history so far.

[@ChairmanMo]

There is a backstory in the Tales of the Dominion War book.

[@balrighty3523]

I think I've read that one. IIRC, he finds out how to make Thaleron radiation and this is what spurs him towards his ultimate goal of taking over the Star Empire. I meant more in terms of Shinzon showing up in this series.

[@neganrex5693]

@@balrighty3523 His ship was cloaked hiding behind a planet. He has no honor or he does not want to be seen around that ugly ship and crew witch I would fully understand. When his ship and crew are both that ugly they have no place in Star Trek and must report to Star Trek Discovery or would that be to mean?.

[@balrighty3523]

I don't know about all the crew, but I would agree that Ron Perlman would fit in with the Kling-Orcs.

[@occultatumquaestio5226]

_"It is us today. It will be you tomorrow." - Haile Selassie I, 1936_ The Dominion War has at this point slowed down to a snail's pace, in a war of attrition, moral increasingly becomes a factor. And under stress, when two comparable great waves crash against each other the weakest links will soon break. As for Betazed, perhaps the fear to keep the particular entity that resides there planetside outweighed larger strategic planning.

[@shanenolan8252]

Cheers. These are wonderful. Thank to the members also

[@vortega472]

I really enjoy these videos and love the format. I like the concept of tactics and how to build units - and how to apply them in a battle order, and you really show this in a dynamic way. So please keep these up and thank you.

[@lynngreen7978]

Eight months to go! A lot of exciting events ahead.

[@shanenolan8252]

I hope either in these or future regular videos. A Romulan from reman campaign to compliment the popular scimatar wings of romulus . Video. 12 major battles the most violent of the war and surans squadron and reman ships .

[@carolheward6479]

Its an interesting point that romulan ships with cloaking devices and artificial singularities for power being able to operate differently to ships that rely on normal warp cores. Also it makes me wonder about romulan ships with these singularity power sources during the burn event in discovery.

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

Yeah they'd be fine.

[@carolheward6479]

@@venomgeekmedia9886 it was probably a good thing the burn occurred when the romulans had changed and not when they were aggressive and had a decent fleet largely immune to the effects of the burn. they would even cause it if they could have

[@ISAF_Ace]

The Cardassians really bet big on a swift dominion victory, something which is seriously backfiring. The size of Cardassian territory is going to be a blessing and a curse to defend for the dominion, its (comparatively) small size compared to the federation means that its going to be much easier to defend in depth. The much smaller size is going to be a nightmare because even losing a single system is going to be crippling for a defence, losing Chin'Toka puts alliance units in range to hit the shipyard at Monac and in realistic range of Omekla and Torros. Their industry is much more densely packed and the Alliance is going to have an abundance of possible targets and be spoiled for choice with so many targets. The northern Romulan fleets are also tying down vast amounts of Dominion material, if someone could drive out the Romulans, then it would free up enough ships to sally out in large numbers. The Dominion plan may be to use these freed up ships to launch a major offensive through the northern front and take the line of lightly defended systems between Ronara and Tzartak; a massive encirclement like that would hunge on Betazed being the southern tip of the spear. An encirclement of that scale would trap enough fleets to put the Alliance on the defensive once again while possible leaving the Bajoran wormhole up to recapture.

[@gamer24d]

Why don't the cardassians and Dominion Base Delta Zero Federation worlds when they can't hold it, like after the times of operation return? When they were in full retreat. Or am I missing something here? Why would they hold betazed?

[@occultatumquaestio5226]

The Dominion want to dominate not destroy. They want to maintain some perceived degree of morality so that surrendering doesn't seem like that bad an option. The Star Trek equivalent of BDZ actions would only lead to the members of the UFP-Klingon-Romulan alliance to fight harder as well as risk scaring neutral 3rd parties into joining the UFP-Kling-Rom allies for fear of being next on the chopping block. For Betazed, as others have said, propaganda and Betazoid empath abilities.

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

They do steal and sabotage some essential resources like antimatter and dilithium

[@SamuelJamesNary]

Given what we know of Betazed from TNG, the Dominion sees its people as both a potential threat and a tool against them. The Founders rely on a host of cloned soldiers and administrators who worship the Founders as gods. The problem they have is that none of them have the abilities of the Betazed people. The Vorta might be mentally skilled to engage in diplomacy, but that's more a sense of cunning than anything else... and something that relies on no one knowing exactly what the Vorta is thinking. It's not the sort of telepathy and empathic abilities that the Betazed people are known for. In this, on one side, there would then be the hope among the Founders of genetically engineering a new intelligence and diplomatic agent... or grafting Betazed genetics onto the Vorta and thus enabling them to read minds and note deception. It would be the perfect tool to continue tighten their totalitarian noose over everything. On the other side, and what the Founders would fear is that the Federation takes back Betazed, realizes the weapon they have and then begins militarizing the Betazed people. For much of the Dominion's intelligence gathering and spy craft is handled by the Founders themselves, taking on the form of local politicians and leaders and gaining both intelligence and sending them into chaos. But if suddenly there are a bunch of telepaths out there on every planet... the kind of duplicity their operations rely on won't work. A Founder in Human form might LOOK Human, but there is the potential that a Betazed would know the Founder's intent and duplicity and recognize it. It would kill their games at espionage and then also hurt any attempt to negotiate deals that favor them with the Vorta. But the cloning and genetic mapping process was probably something that hasn't reached an end point and the Dominion knows it can't give the Federation that advantage. Thus, hold the planet and if lost... KILL every last Betazed or inflict so much harm and pain that they won't function and thus protecting the Dominion. Essentially the ultimate, "if I can't have it, NO ONE will."

[@thanqualthehighseer]

I can imagine a Betazoid intelligence officer covertly walking through a Starfleet facility and reaching out for a awareness of surface thoughts, if a telepath can't read a changelings mind the that would act like radar, can't get a reading? Then it's most likely a changeling. The founders probably realised they're biggest threat wasn't technology but telepathic species and that's why they went for betazed, makes me wonder if the dominion didn't kill off any telepathic species in the gamma quadrant just in case.

[@114Riggs]

@@thanqualthehighseer Well Maybe the Betazoid can read a founders mind, smell intent or maybe he can't detect them at all. Which exposes the Founder anyway really.

[@114Riggs]

unless the Founder decides to infiltrate Starfleet by posing as Nog.

[@SamuelJamesNary]

@@114Riggs - I wouldn't think so... As a lot of that action on the part of the Founders is more to gather information, often based on what they know of the person before hand. It's not like some thing in comics where someone assumes the form of someone else and then automatically has everything nailed down regarding the person they're imitating. It's why in cases where the Founders don't know anyone, they just assume the form of a generic individual of that species. That way they're not having to pretend to be someone and anything that might seem "odd" to others without telepathy, would just be written off as something outside the norm for that species. That would be something that the people of Betazed should be able to handle. As by my understanding about all the Founder takes on is the form and appearance, not necessarily the inherent abilities of that come with that species. Thus, even if a Ferengi's mind would be tough for someone from Betazed to read, I wouldn't think that the Founder could actually match all the internal forms that the Ferengi would have or need for protection. Thus the Founder would look like Nog, and with study could act and talk like Nog, but wouldn't be able to hide his/her deception.

[@114Riggs]

My last comment was in jest and purely rethorical. You kind of wasted your time here.

[@thomasvaldez8566]

Romulans using thebtactics they were practising to use against the Fedration.

[@alexanderleach3365]

If I were a Cardassian, I would very optimistic about the war and how it is being run.

[@tullyDT]

Is Batazed going to be this wars's Market Garden

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

For who?

[@tullyDT]

@@venomgeekmedia9886 the Allies aka Federation & Co

[@Cauin450]

With any other species, I'd say holding on to Betazed is for the hot women. However, you just showed two Jem'hadar fleets come from Cardassian Space to New Helena & Pacifica without mentioning them, kicking lose two Cardassian (Cheeseburger) Orders?

[@neganrex5693]

If they had caption Kirk this war would be over by now.

[@45580677]

We've hurt the Dominion good nulling around 50 percent of there shipbuilding in this conflict with the actions taken by the Allies so far were wearing them down as the UFP gone to full war mode finally as more ships then crews start to pop in and young officers rush to the fronts to meet demands I always wonder why the Romulans not take the long way around where Dominion not cover attack small targets force them to spread out more and more and this will lead them to fall back and regroup in proper defense I can't wait to see the USS Prometheus and Phalanx classes in action

[@yardhunter4209]

Epic video

[@FrakkinGaiusBaltar]

The Dominion insistence in holding Betazed might just be for propaganda reasons. It's the only true *big* Federation member world they have managed to capture, losing it would break the morale of the Cardassian troops and galvanize the Federation in return.

[@shanenolan8252]

Them and banzar . The others were not core worlds.

[@bills5098]

Betazed has telepaths, the only people who can identify a founder quickly

[@Wedgekree]

Telepaths can quickly reveal who are Changelings.

[@FrakkinGaiusBaltar]

Controlling Betazed doesn't mean controlling the whole betazoid population in the Federation. Plus, Betazoids aren't the only ones with telepathic abilities. I'm still going for the propaganda explanation.

[@archivis]

This war is pointless and meaningless. Cisko should have asked his allies in the wormhole to close their end as soon as the federation figured out they were being attacked through the wormhole rather waiting for whole war to happen instead waiting for end of DS9 to finally say no. None of blood and lives needed to happen. Really loath DS9 mostly. Though the defiant is a pretty ship. Should not have to go through this stupidity to get her.

[@occultatumquaestio5226]

The Dominion haven't had Wormhole access since month 4 of the Dominion War in March 2374 & April 2375 is month 17 of the war. The Dominion have plenty of military production in the Alpha Quadrant. Also, this is the 'reactive passive' UFP being discussed, who in the Cardassian Border Wars, instead of wiping the floor with the Cardies in months with superior tech, had a 19 yearlong slugfest from 2347 to 2366 that ended in a statement due to bureaucratic pacifism. Which was a TNG plot point.

[@jhallam2011]

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[@carolheward6479]

Betazed is important to the dominion because it is a well known federation member home world. The way the people they handle the locals and the perception of how the dominion treats its allies is vital to the founders. They want to be a genuine alternative to the federation and look friendly. I think you mentioned it being like a show piece for dominion occupation which bajor was an obvious example. No gem hadar on the streets and help with machinery etc. Because of this the founders are concerned with the alpha quadrants perception of them and they are never going to accept the federation taking back such a high profile member world. As long as the dominion hold betazed and memeber worlds like it there are crew memebers on federation ships very depressed because their world is occupied and reminding everyone of the situation. Its all about perception the founders will hold betazed at any cost they would sacrifice every soldier they had to keep it. The military cost and situation and being vulnerable wont effect the objectives of the founders. The fed flagship itself has a betazoid as a Councillor so she sees most of the crew so it reminds people like i said- Peter dvoid.

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

The founders are kinda done with playing soft-ball. There must be something there that they want... Or need.

[@earlwallace2015]

They are experimenting on the population in an attempt to give the vortas the ability to read minds.

[@carolheward6479]

@@earlwallace2015 vortas have very well designed psionic abilities already dont they? Not all but the ones chosen to have them. There would not be many because it could lead to problems like a vorta reading a changelings mind although i bet not all telepathic races in trek could do that. What ever method they use to read minds might not work on a shape shifter. The vorta woman planted to spy on sisko while he and quark were prisoner in that cave had telekenetic / psionic powers. That means she was designed and created with them. I suppose it does not mean the dominion does have mind readers or that they wouldnt study the empathuc traits of the betazoids. I dont know about that reason being believable they could have abducted lots of betazoids before the war or while they occupied it and experimented to find their secrets they wouldnt need to hold the world for that. They may as well be there to abduct trois mum

[@earlwallace2015]

@@carolheward6479 no, some vortas have telekinetic abilities. They can't read minds like the Betazoids. It's stated in the canon.

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

@@earlwallace2015 the vorta? Or the founders?