The Doom Turtle - America's Only Super Heavy Tank

[@the_fat_electrician]

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[@Gotthatsauce27]

🐟

[@BoiStudio]

Don’t touch the boats

[@Mets2015WorldSeries]

TUTEL

[@Sgt_Long_Dong]

PleeASE do a video on Léo Major big man

[@Meatloaf_TV]

Did u know that the fastest human object ever was a pothole cover that was shot into space by a nuke in the 1960s called project plumbob. It was an accident but it's funny that if u count this in the space race it sets many firsts and is still the fastest object ever launched

[@LugborG]

“A blue whale with a gun attached to it.” The natural reaction when confronted by sharks with laser beams.

[@the_fat_electrician]

LOL

[@internetzenmaster8952]

@@the_fat_electrician Now this is an arms race I can get behind!

[@SuperDiablo101]

​@@the_fat_electrician unless it was an April fools day joke the U.S. navy actually DID try to mount laser beams onto sharks or dolphins. If you can find anything on this it'd be a great video

[@bigthing75]

Beat me to it, well done. I shouldn't have been in the shower for so long.

[@T95_enjoyer]

​@@the_fat_electrician thanks for making a backstory on this thing

[@GingerBilly]

Ehhh…me and my Shatapillar made a cameo in a fat electrician video…I can die a happy man now.

[@the_fat_electrician]

You cant die til after the collab

[@Upgraydez]

I'll watch that.

[@Medic_Ghost]

Please get this man on the podcast.

[@TheTibMutant]

That Shatapillar is fuckin legendary.

[@julianndavis9415]

Niiiice

[@Oddball_E8]

My favourite "the military lost something" story from Sweden is when they were doing some military exercise in the 80's and a bunch of conscripts were ordered to stow away a howizer. They did so by asking a local farmer if they could put it in his barn. He said sure, and they stuffed it in there and left. They never came back. The exercise ended and nobody noticed that a howizer was missing until months later. By that time, the units had gone back to their respective military bases, the conscripts had gone back to civilian life, nobody knew what happened to the howizer and it was kind of written off as "it has to be here somewhere". And a few years later the farmer rang up the local military base and asked when they were going to pick up their cannon. After some digging around, they figured out that it was the missing howizer from a completely different part of Sweden, and they came and picked it up and paid the farmer for the trouble of storing it for so long :)

[@jacqueshejeije7499]

At least the farmer was paid! Instead of receiving a fine for illegally possessing military ordinance or something.

[@faceless5472]

​@jacqueshejeije7499 they aren't American my friend 🗿

[@selvbilde253]

@@faceless5472 Hey even us Americans will pay someone for that. It just depends on if the officer in charge decides to be ass that day.

[@faceless5472]

@@selvbilde253 pretty much

[@Jawsofdefeat1990]

@@faceless5472Why the hostility? That’s just a reasonable thing to do.

[@rockyboi9360]

The T95 is basically a giant "Fuck your armor and fuck your krupstahls" personified

[@morriswetz834]

Big Turtle, go BOOM

[@panther-nk2hn]

Germany: our defense line is impenetrable! America: nuh-uh *builds doom tutel*

[@jonadabtheunsightly]

@@panther-nk2hn Words like "impenetrable" are pretty consistently inaccurate, just in general. As Bruce Schneier says in _Beyond Fear_ , "The words unbreakable, absolute, unforegeable, and impenetrable have no place when discussing security. If you hear them, you can be sure you're listening to someone who either doesn't understand security, or is trying to hoodwink you. Good security systems are designed in anticipation of possible failure." Now, Schneier is *mainly* a computer security guru, so physical anti-tank fortifications aren't exactly in the center of his area of expertise. But the principle is sufficiently general, that it really does apply. Engineers understand this principle, and they don't design things to be "unbreakable" or "impenetrable" or whatever. They design it to be rated to withstand a certain amount of whatever. Fire doors are rated to withstand certain temperatures for certain amounts of time. Bank vaults are designed to require a certain amount of force (typically in the form of a drill) and a certain amount of time to break into (and then you design intrusion detection systems to go along with it, that will hopefully get the police on-site before that time expires). Fishing line and other tensile-strength materials are rated to withstand certain amounts of force. Bridges are rated to handle a certain amount of weight driving over them, and a certain amount of wind blowing on them, and so on. Password systems are designed to require a certain amount of computing power for a certain amount of time in order to brute force them, and if they're designed well, they're over-engineered to account for things like partial-known-plaintext attacks. Tank armor is designed to withstand a certain caliber of ammunition hitting a certain number of times in the same spot. Buildings in regions that are earthquake-prone are designed to stand up to a certain level of seismic activity. And so on and so forth. In the context of war, you make it so that if the enemy wants to gain control of a particular location or asset, they have to expend a certain amount of resources to do it, which *ideally* should be more than the location or asset is actually worth, strategically speaking.

[@AmeliaRomanov]

If my retrofitted Churchill 1 was added well with a twin 288mm large cruiser gun and 325 tons of heavy black iron armor powered by 3 havoc turbines

[@darbybell4094]

T-28 med tank vs the t-28 tutle lmao

[@Whizperz666]

Casually mentioning 6 missing nuclear weapons while he walks out of the room is a flex only America can do.

[@DjDolHaus86]

* 6 they're admitting to * In all seriousness though, it's kind of pointless continuing to search for those warheads after about 2 years because the primers (incorrect terminology) that start the whole nuclear party inside the warhead are all out of solo cups and jack daniels

[@MisterCellaneous]

Terrifying to think that out of all the "superpowers," we've probably lost the *fewest* nukes and the *least* fissile material, huh? I mean just imagine how many bombs Ivan has "misplaced" to keep borscht on his family's table.

[@JE-MG]

Ultimate flex

[@steves578]

@@DjDolHaus86 after 5 the tritium inside becomes useless and unable to engage the reaction further, basically just a capsule full of nuclear material

[@ImezRuez]

@@steves578 So it won't go boom, you still don't want somebody choppin it up and makin ya snort it.

[@gardnert1]

"How do you misplace a 200,000lbs tank?" Every Army Supply Sergeant: "Oh that's easy..."

[@Larken42]

“We put it over there, and refuse to acknowledge its existence until we forget what and why it is.

[@jppauley9969]

"We tell the e2 Mafia to leave it alone".

[@Larken42]

@@jppauley9969 “and then the good-idea fairy takes it away”

[@aydeeaychdee]

Probably similar way to how they lost 32 nuclear warheads

[@Larken42]

@@aydeeaychdee in all fairness: they’re only short 6 of them now.

[@edwardloomis887]

I can say from first hand experience it sat outside for years at Fort Knox. I'm glad the museum floor at Fort Benning/Moore is strong enough for her to be brought in out of the elements.

[@greggollaher5053]

That's definitely a government operation.

[@wcurtin1962]

I sat by it while on break when I was taking AIT at Fort Knox.

[@Pavewy]

9:13 "Puh! Those aren't Shermans, those are M10 Wolverines, a tank destroyer built on the chassis of a Sherman! Puh!"

[@colincipriani4753]

*slaps helmet* There are Shermans in the background

[@thelion7210]

This is a great comment!

[@ChittyPA]

It's Buh.... Not Puh....

[@thelion7210]

@ChittyPA "Buh! It's "Buh!", not "Puh!" Buh!" Close enough, don't be a nerd.

[@montarakid1943]

@@thelion7210 "...Don't be a nerd." You do realize the KZbin channel we're all watching, right? 🤓

[@Furluge]

0:36 - Your favorite tank should obviously be the tank top. Com'n, you know you love them.

[@1BeGe]

Literally my first thought when you described all the tank traps: "just put a bunch of dirt over them and drive over the dirt." It never ceases to amaze me how many tactical situations throughout human history are solved through either the addition or removal of dirt.

[@protorhinocerator142]

Also the hedgerows in France were solved by a couple of bored tankers. They welded big forklift stabby things on the front of some of the tanks and they could uproot the hedges and plow right through the hedgerows in seconds. Then 30 tanks followed them through the hole. The Germans were trying to defend but tanks were basically teleporting into view in front of them. They couldn't defend against that.

[@Reblwitoutacause]

Digging a hole. Diggy diggy hole.

[@miilkbone990]

turbine....

[@LordHoth_90]

See, this why the American military is better at solving problems over others. It’s not cause we come up with over complicated solutions, it’s cause we have the simplest solutions.

[@ryanmauldin4890]

Do you think you could just shoot by the cones and blow them away?

[@DancingOfDoom]

Every WT player: ‘TUTEL!’

[@DayNoodler]

First thing I thought of lmfao

[@jacques5279]

Tutel : )

[@jeremiahkivi4256]

I play with both loaded, T28 and T95. I will not not tutel.

[@BVSH7881]

Doom Turtle? Nah, TUTEL!!!

[@CrusaderLegFoot]

TUTEL!

[@falco5150]

"Hold my defense budget and watch this shit" 🤣🤣🤣 Fuckin gold

[@greggollaher5053]

Yep, that was the best line.

[@Direwolf13PS3]

'They lost the T95 in a bush' sounds like the mechanics who worked on it decided 'fuck no' when they were told it was getting scrapped. Incredibly based.

[@CanadianFitted]

5 years from now it’s gonna pop up in someones barn 😂👍

[@ACEGAMER120]

​@@CanadianFittedThat'll be a hell of a barn find video 😂

[@diamond_tango]

They lost it in a tragic fishing accident, right next to their spare rifles

[@CanadianFitted]

@@ACEGAMER120 “Still has the mounted 50 and…. Wait are these live rounds?” 😂

[@protorhinocerator142]

You two soldiers, move that tank out of there. Um yeah... or we could just cover it in branches and stuff and let the weeds grow up over it in a fee months.

[@angryginger791]

When the hunter called to report that he'd found a tank, I really hope the actual verbatim response was, "Oh, shit, we've been looking for that."

[@NapalmIguana]

Bro picked up the phone and was like "Yo is this the army base?" "Yes." "I found a funking tank in bush." "What?" "I found a motherfucking tank in bush." "what does it look like?" "A turtle with gun." "Oh shit we've been looking for that." "How the fuck did you lose this thing?"

[@KnawedOne]

😂🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

[@TheChieftainsHatch]

Apparently there was some confusion as the people in the other end weren't tracking the existence of a 4-track tank until they started digging.

[@WarpigA23]

How many other hunters might have seen it but never mentioned it because... "It's an army base, of course there's a tank parked in the bushes."?

[@mikedicewrites]

The Doom Turtle has to be the most American sounding tank name I've ever heard and I love it😂

[@BullDeerAryu_]

I think the name came from War Thunder forums

[@rusaccord]

​@@BullDeerAryu_I think the name came from world of tanks players before WT even had ground forces.

[@vincentbergman4451]

British has a similar tank called the tortoise, it’s another massive SPG

[@78tag]

...and Dragons Tooth is the typical description the Germans would use.

[@KiltPatrick]

Not to derail, but didn't Korea have an ancient ship called the Boom Turtle or something?

[@RandallFrequentFlyerFlagg]

My favorite tank? The Killdozer. Of course, it wasn’t a military tank. My favorite tanks actually built for military use were the Bob Semple tank and the KhTZ-16. Those designs were both tractors converted into improvised military tanks. The KhTZ-16 actually saw combat but those few that went into battle were quickly destroyed.

[@cabledad65]

Don't forget, they lost Atomic Annie for awhile. The Army has a history of losing big things of historical value. But God forbid, you can't find that random grenade pouch they issued you or some other small CIF item.

[@BayouBoy2443]

Well I mean they are bullies

[@brigidtheirish]

Or a *freaking pen* that probably ran out of ink *years* ago.

[@kokomo74149]

A long history of losing everything they can. Some on purpose some because the military doesn't know how to function in peace times. Lol

[@joehefner7529]

“CIF”?? Sorry, I’m not a vet/ex-military… can you please tell me what “CIF” means? Thank you!

[@floridalivin77]

How are we ever surprised at the incompetence? The same government that decided to dismantle the infrastructure for building Saturn 5 rockets which were amazing heavy lift space vehicles to build space shuttles which were super expensive and didn’t have the same payload capability

[@JohnPawlowski-b9v]

The T28 also has its original speedometer which goes all the way to 80 miles per hour. The running joke at the tank museum is that its purpose is to tell you how fast you're not going.

[@SStarry_Days]

“In the case of being dropped from a plane, please use the other 80% of the speedometer.”

[@trailblazer632]

​@SStarry_Days could you imagine the size of a plane that could air drop this thing😂

[@MarkoDash]

​@@trailblazer632it's not that much heavier than an Abrams, so a C-17 or C-5 could. The trick would be the parachutes.

[@trailblazer632]

@@MarkoDash its significantly larger in footprint though. Idk if it would fit through the door lol

[@frankotto83]

​@@MarkoDash "Not that much heavier ..." 🤣🤣🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ Dude, approximately 25ton heavier is nothing to joke about!🤣🤣

[@stockcarracer333]

After seeing the photo of the Doom Turtle in the ditch I have a new theroy on how it was "Lost", It wasn't lost it went and hid because it knew it was only a matter of time before being at the testing grounds that someone was going to start testing missles, artilery, or atomic bombs at it. Then even though it had been at a musium for a period of time it was still so worried about it that it tried a "last ditch effort" to hide back in the bushes when it came off the trailer. Honestly the fact that it was lost probably saved it from being turned into a target.

[@ozan1234561]

Yeah i can see how ''can it pen doom turtle frontally'' potentially being a benchmark for every new ap round

[@reventon4547]

I had that same thought as I was watching. With all the Javelins, and Tomahawks and such, it would be shattered in a test field on Ft. Sill or somewhere.

[@Buzz-rh4dz]

For sure, DoD wanted to nuke that Uboat the Navy jacked fair and square.

[@TheAnnoyingBoss]

You guys will hate me for this but its actually a doom tortoise. Needs w16 turbo diesel hybrid. Two v8 duesels stuck together, with a hybrid

[@ryakkikiojyn-ji3382]

I mean... I have fired a SAW at a target tank on an Army range before... and how could you not be curious if X or Y could take the turtle so... yeah, it'd almost certainly be Swiss cheese.

[@MicahT-l7p]

The doom turtle, according to my calculations, weighs roughly as much as your mom.

[@Randoman]

That's a good one

[@theNoviceGuardian]

That may be good sir. However according to my calculations it still loves me unlike your father

[@6.0charleston843]

@@theNoviceGuardianshesshh

[@tempgamefreakgaming]

​@@theNoviceGuardian Stop... he's already dead...

[@beloved7.62]

Don’t forget to mention just like your mom the tank can have multiple men inside

[@urkince26]

Nick is really flexing those "I'll make hisory myself, and nobody can stop me" muscles trying to uncover lost historical photos using nothing but Dad energy.

[@jasonmiller7219]

“This tank was designed to be a massive middle finger” and it even kinda looks like a hand giving a middle finger

[@Jeff.78]

PsyOps has entered the chat...

[@dietervonhellstrom9164]

I knew an American tanker that had the 'pleasure' of driving the T95. They messed up an Airforce base's tarmac because they took it for a joy ride. He passed away from cancer recently. RIP Mike.

[@hanswurst2189]

Glass of whiskey to Mike

[@RealBelisariusCawl]

🥃

[@boozmixr1413]

🍺

[@becominghero9754]

The way you wrote this, it seems like there is a straight line from him messing up the Airforce tarmac and getting cancer. 0_0 I didn't know the Airforce was that hardcore, I thought they still allowed their officers to use umbrellas Whisky to Mike

[@cptmiller132]

It's always fun to mess with airforce. Although I bet that dd200 turned around on him quick lol. Whiskey to Mike

[@NerrawGnap]

8:02 and this is why you install antitank mines in the top of the “dragon’s teeth”, so that when they drive over, the tank gets blown up, and hopefully takes some of the dirt with it, meaning they have to start over.

[@soulnvictus]

The M10 TD is my favorite. It's not *technically* a tank but its basically a tank. Audie Murphy, the shortest US soldier in WW2, also used it to get a medal of honor by driving back an entire German batalion with the mounted 50cal.

[@V2011F]

How close are they? Give them a sec and you'll be able to talk to them!

[@lookoutowen]

I've always preffered the ID 10 T. Never fails

[@arkhaan7066]

@@lookoutowen Makes sense, I assume it reminds you of yourself?

[@OcculiMortis]

@@lookoutowen love it.

[@shino933]

I talk in video game terms, is that the tank destroyer from company of heroes?

[@andrewdubose9968]

My favorite is the Killdozer. Use Case: Cause as much damage as possible with no want of self-preservation Base Vehicle: Komatsu D355A Bulldozer Weight: Estimated over 60 tons when armored Engine: 410 horsepower Armor Modifications: Composite Construction: Layers of steel (up to 1-foot thick in areas) and concrete sandwich. Vision Ports: Small weapon ports and multiple cameras linked to internal monitors, giving the driver enhanced visibility while being protected. Offensive Capability: Multiple Firearms: Equipped with a .50 caliber rifle, a .308 semi-automatic rifle, and a .223 semi-automatic rifle. Maneuverability: Designed for sheer power and pushing through obstacles. Power Plant: diesel, long-standing grudge, vendetta

[@ripn929707]

That guy was suffering from paranoid delusions. Even his own friends said he was off his rocker. No one wants to ruin their hero with the truth.

[@quintonsayres]

If I could go back in time, I'd let him know the hardware store had a basement

[@andrewdubose9968]

@@ripn929707 that doesn’t mean he didn’t build a badass tank.

[@andrewdubose9968]

@@quintonsayres and a beefier cooling system.

[@cousinzeke4888]

Not only were the cameras all behind bulletproof glass, they had air nozzles to blow debris away from them so he could still see.

[@bravo-popov]

Imagine how disappointed they'd have been after being told "Hey, the line really isn't as strong as they said so you can stop building that really cool tank now"

[@TJ_Loves2fish]

That memo would get "lost in the mail".

[@justanothergmailaccount1353]

I mean that’s exactly what happened when we built the F 15. Super Russian fighter plane turns out to be a shit.

[@gobs379]

A despot's imaginary superweapons, and America's production-grade counters to them. Name a more iconic duo.

[@Inertia888]

@@gobs379 It would not surprise me if most of America's best weaponry, was in reaction to someone else's bs. America has designed and built, so many advanced technologies & mind-bending war machines, because some adversary, claimed to have had success with a made-up, or extremely exaggerated military capability.

[@johnthew5798]

Climbed around on the doom turtle at Ft Knox when I became a tanker, it became my favorite that day too.

[@rsrt6910]

What's absolutely insane is that the Abrams tank weights 2/3 of the Doom Turtle, has a gun that's 20% larger, has armour that can shrug off 88's and can move at highway speeds.

[@jameskirk3]

With a turbine engine, a 3ft exhaust port that will melt the paint on German cars who get too close... But still manual loading lol

[@Ty-sq7yi]

​@@jameskirk3 Manual loading is superior

[@zyeborm]

@@Ty-sq7yi you could replace that manual loader with a robot arm and it'd do a faster job cheaper and not wind up married to a stripper with an 18% loan on a mustang in the second year you're calculating ROI for. Don't judge the concept of auto loaders by the Russian implementation.

[@CorundumDevil]

​@zyeborm Oh look, the robot arm built by lowest bidder on a military contract is broken. What now?

[@ZuluGamingSeries]

@@Ty-sq7yitill it gets hit with an rpg and implodes from the inside blowing the turret off and killing the crew

[@SteeleWilliams]

You should do a video on James Earl Rudder. He was a WW2 veteran that served in the pacific theatre, he arguably had one of the hardest missions in military history, he was instructed to get to Omaha beach before all other landings with a small party, scale the almost 200 foot cliffs with grappling hooks covered in hot tar and cargo nets, and then destroy German defenses in 35 minutes. This would be a great story of how the truth can be stranger than fiction. I know some stuff about him because he was the head of Texas A&M in the 1960’s when my grandfather attended it and it was an all military school.

[@troybaxter]

🫡 James Earl Rudder. One of the most bad ass Aggies to ever live. A-WHOOP!

[@creid7537]

Wow, that would be a hard mission - getting from the pacific to Omaha beach in 35 minutes alone would be tough; having to climb and destroy stuff within that timeline as well would be incredible!

[@txoilfield]

@@creid7537 Especially since the Pacific is on the other side of the globe...

[@thegamingjuicebox2608]

I love two men and a mower

[@illegalclown]

My favorite tank has always been the M60. It's got that gorgeous Cold War aesthetic. Even better, my local VFW has one outside. My youngest kid would shout "Tank!" every time he saw it when he was 4. I taught him that it was an M60, and after that he would shout "M60 tank!" and it was adorable.

[@ICECAPPEDSKY]

M60 and M48 really are unsung heroes of American tank history. They were successful enough to serve in almost any country even slightly connected to the US and serve to this day. Kind of similar to the T55/62 in that way, they serve everywhere and still do.

[@Pavewy]

The M48 and M60 are both great looking tanks.

[@heuhen]

I like Leopard 1 (I'm Norwegian), small light tank, with a good gun and funny to drive, like strapping a Hemi on a Beach buggy, ridiculous fun but also quiet... so many times we have surprised our opponents by suddenly being on top of them..

[@carlmorris7775]

1976 2/37 armor 1AD I drove a 1960 M60 with A1 upgrade. The only line company to defeat Munich Delta Force

[@rodneyvburnett]

I was an M60 A3 crew man from 87 to 90. I transitioned to the M1. Loved the 60

[@Fr33zy159]

9:20 The Army did the same thing with one of the only surviving M4 Sherman Jumbos in the world. They just found it sitting in a target field and now it's on display at Camp Ripley MN after the outside was restored.

[@michaelmmcintyre]

In the early 1990’s a Farmer called Ft. Stewart Division staff duty and asked us to come pick up our tanks. Apparently, there were two railheaded tanks on abandoned train cars on his back forty that had been left on an unused rail spur since the Korean War. He was expanding his farmland and needed the rail cars and contents removed, but the local scrap guy who was clearing old pile barns and railroad detritus wouldn’t take the tanks without paperwork showing ownership.

[@backtoback6213]

Smart scrapyard guy.

[@shockwave6213]

Well, don't leave us hanging. Did the army let him keep them after demilling the guns?

[@roguegen5536]

​@shockwave6213 No, he wanted it removed and I believe it's at an army museum in Georgia now. There is a photo of the lost T28 super heavy in the field that can be found online.

[@shockwave6213]

@@roguegen5536 I already knew about the picture of the T95/T28 (I prefer T95, sue me) in the field. I was referring to the tanks abandoned on the rail cars that OP of THIS particular comment was talking about. He said there were 2 abandoned tanks on rail cars that seemed to have been forgotten on the track since the Korean War.

[@Klaaism]

Unsure if military tanks/federal vehicles count differently; however, in alot of US states abandoned vehicles and w/e can be sold after so many years. Property owner provides a bill of sale with the details, so buyer can get a title if they need to, granted the exact steps vary per state.

[@Vhailor2003]

"The Doom turtle is my favorite tank in the world!" M50 Ontos bazooka tank: *standing outside the window in the rain* Why don't you love me any more? What did I do wrong?!?

[@NickTzilla]

Tutel

[@wrathshorts2894]

Sad, wet, Ontos Chan.

[@joehefner7529]

Lol! Yeah, those tanks were cool as fuck!

[@bullet10002]

THE "THING"! Didn't he do a video on the m50 awhile ago?

[@kyledabearsfan]

oh man the Ontos, i think its HLC that does a good video on that one

[@DarkKnightofIT]

Scariest thing: Grunts that are told to "get it done by the time I look back, I don't care how" by command.

[@abcdef-qk6jf]

I can't argue with your reasoning - I never knew I needed a favorite tank. But the story is just so crazy - it's my new favorite... Until you find a misplaced B3 stealth bomber or a stash of nukes and other things gone missing from the inventory....

[@DavidRichardson153]

I feel like Nick should have named his Doom Turtle in War Thunder "Couchus Yeetus" or something like that, in the spirit of trying to be more like Wile E. Coyote.

[@aeritiangraham3494]

Marxist Impregnation Device is clearly Superior

[@FrozenLionsFan]

I called mine "late for dinner"

[@ricks5756]

"Dragon's Teeth" where commonly defeated by a bulldozer pushing dirt over the obstacles. If the army had some extra time, specific areas where blown open using satchel charges ( M37 ) or generic demolition charges. Edit - 7:54 ... ha, I was correct :)

[@DKPseude]

"I would understand if you misplaced a Sherman tank because America made like 50,000 of them..." British here and I once heard an anecdote which I can't confirm as true but sounds plausible. During the 1960s a review was being conducted of the British railway system. As part of this under-used lines were being examined to see what state they were in and how often they were used. One siding clearly wasn't being used because it was blocked by old trailers that had just been abandoned there. Nobody seemed to know where they'd come from or to recall ever not seeing them as they passed. On physically inspecting the trailers they looked under the tarps and found rusting Sherman tanks. As best they could work out in the chaos of D-Day preparations someone had shunted a dozen Shermans into a disused siding (presumably so a train could pass the other way) and then just... Forgotten about them. Edit: The nearby residents knew about the tanks though, as their kids would regularly go to "Play in the tanks" which at this point they'd concluded the government must not care about so stopped trying to prevent it happening.

[@ericdierolf8929]

I heard that was a common British complaint during WW2......"Oye you YANKS leave a messy battlefield!"

[@trailblazer632]

​@@ericdierolf8929 sure but when youre beating the enemy with volume a little spillage is to be expected 😂

[@troybaxter]

​@@trailblazer632 And yet if that spillage is my grenade pouch or not pick up one spent casing at the range, then God be damned...

[@trailblazer632]

​@troybaxter well that stuff is YOUR responsibility not theirs😂

[@troybaxter]

@@trailblazer632 yeah, yeah, yeah. I know. Still doesn't make me any less infuriated over the bs.

[@FrozenLionsFan]

WOT player here. My absolute favorite tank in the game. Used to squad up with 2 friends in mediums and they would help "push kinda" my tank to the front or up hills the they would hide behind me and protect my flanks. Lots of fun

[@addisonherbert6686]

You should definetly do a video about how america managed to pump out 52,000 shermans in 3 years, which is over 70 brand new shermans a day, even while producing hundreds of thousands of other vehicles for the war effort.

[@the_fat_electrician]

America manufacturing was on another level

[@Pavewy]

There's a video on KZbin that goes over American manufacturing during WW2. When it's put in graph format, the US was an absolute juggernaut as far as manufacturing goes. No other nation even came close.

[@joshuaputman8307]

But could we replicate those results today? Sadly, I think not.

[@dalekarrick8588]

​@joshuaputman8307 the Caterpillar plant in Decatur, IL, back in the day, could go from making mining equipment to tanks in 48 hours. Not sure if it still could today. If a big enough war broke out Cat, Komatsu, Deere, CaseIH, and others would probably go full war effort (either voluntarily or not).

[@justinchamberlin4195]

@@joshuaputman8307 Hell no...American manufacturing is a hollow shell of what it used to be. Part of that is reasonable competition from other nations developing their industrial bases, part of it is the Chinese government bending their entire economy for thirty or forty years to be the world's lowest-cost manufacturing center, part of it is obscenely excessive and stifling regulations, part of it is union greed, and part of it is a slow collapse of the domestic skilled-but-not-college-educated workforce. If it weren't for immigrants filling so many hourly positions in heavy manufacturing, we'd be a whole lot worse off - such as the Wisconsin foundry I work at, where at least 2/3 of the hourly workforce is made up of people born in Mexico or Puerto Rico, including one of the best welders in the state who has saved more than a few castings nobody else thought would be fixable.

[@louthinator]

"Only the government could lose a 200,000 lb tank for 27 years, still be missing 6 nuclear warheads, and then tell me how dark I'm allowed to tint the windows on MY car" Don't forget they also lost an F35

[@SYKRAL1]

To be fair, they lost that f35 because the f35 is too good. You don’t have a puppet anymore? No problem, you can glide for a bunch more miles. You want to spot it with radar? Absolutely not, if we can spot it, the enemy probably can too.

[@t-yoonit]

20% on the rear and sides, and a 6-8" 5% brow.

[@roddecker1900]

Obama lost a drone that was reverse engineerd

[@magmat0585]

don't forget about an entire small nations worth of equipment that was lost in Afghanistan

[@louthinator]

@@magmat0585 I refuse to believe that stuff was "lost" I'm very much in the camp that it was intentionally left there to allow the provocation of more tensions and to go back to the defense contractors to be like "well we don't have our old equipment guess we have to shovel more money into making new equipment"

[@larrypelrine1799]

Doesn't surprise me that they lost the Doom Turtle, since the DoD is the same group that lost Atomic Annie for 10 years....

[@the_fat_electrician]

True

[@julianpobog-pagowski5662]

​@@the_fat_electrician can we have a episode about it?

[@christianwilson5956]

​@@julianpobog-pagowski5662there already is

[@Big_Loo]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/gKDEZ6WMgraZrZYsi=zAYriTDt6BN-5zF9​@@julianpobog-pagowski5662

[@stevenfabian297]

​@@the_fat_electricianI second this would love an atomic Annie episode

[@marke8323]

I took Basic at Ft Knox years ago and have been to the Patton Museum (and had General Patton Jr Jr storm in to our Field Hospital during Reforger '79). Loved Ft Sam...

[@TheXXIIIrdVet]

Me, eating dinner while learning about history from my boy F.E. "This tank weighs the same as a Blue Whale!" Going back to the Whale as a measurement over Metric. Love it. *I nod approvingly, and continue eating.* "And they strap a Howitzer onto the front of it." *Nodding... Chewing..."* "If you're not picking up what I'm putting down, I'm trying to tell you that this is the NARWAL of tanks!" *I spit my dinner all over the screen, sputtering and laughing maniacally.*

[@Darkinu2]

RIP screen 😂😂

[@HannahBakker-yj8jd]

Hello

[@ghoulbuster1]

Well that just happened!

[@justinbruck9602]

Not sure if he realizes it, but design philosophy of the "Doom Turtle" is basically the American Battleship doctrine of the early 20th century, "We are going to sail right into their harbor like bad asses, lay waste, and go home."

[@Nyet-Zdyes]

Which is pretty much what we did, in the Spanish-American War... at Manila.

[@stonybridge6]

chubby electron man using a ginger billy clip makes my fucking day, holy shit

[@the_fat_electrician]

Hes so cool in person

[@clink-at-war2]

Just went to Fort Benning today, and I got to see the Turtle in person, it was an enlightening experience

[@vikingbraid7515]

My uncle was a former tank commander. He took me and my brothers to Fort Knox when we were kids to see the tank museum. The “Doom Turtle” used to be parked outside so we actually got to climb up on it. I used to have a picture of me straddling the main gun, great memory. R.I.P. Uncle Tim🌹🫡🇺🇸

[@stuchris]

9:18 thats an M22 locust in front of it there, not a sherman... though the M22 is absolutely worth talking about too

[@matthew8925]

Ummmm AcTuAlLy jk love the Locust

[@DarkEmperorRay13]

Long have I waited for this one. I will never forget back in 2010 seeing a silly little bumper sticker that said "My other ride is: " and a silhouette of a T-95.

[@MistaOppritunity]

As a former aircraft mechanic in the US Air Force, I am not surprised at all that the army managed to lose an entire giant tank. To explain why, I need to explain about documentation in aircraft maintenance. You see, whenever we do a job, we needed to write up what was wrong in the aircraft forms, and there would be a little symbol next to the job that denoted how bad the situation was on the aircraft, with an X being loosely the worst one you typically saw. So we would take a panel off, put all its screws with it, and write up the panel on an X because the plane can't fly with a panel removed, that would be dangerous. Well, the Army, they trust them SO LITTLE, that they have write up each individual screw from that panel on a separate job from the panel for each of them. And if that doesn't explain why I am not shocked whatsoever that they lost the doom turtle, I don't know what will.

[@samael335]

Siege ramps have been used for thousands of years. There is no mountain or valley that can't be crossed by simply moving enough dirt.

[@Cold_Cactus]

Grand canyon , Mt everest Theres 2 right off hand , it's not impossible but there's a point of diminishing returns where it would take more time and effort to dig than it would to just build a bridge or go around

[@HappyDragneels_page]

@@Cold_Cactus he never claimed it to be efficient, he said "There is no mountain or valley that can't be crossed by simply moving enough dirt."

[@ChadCarney-hu3du]

​@@Cold_Cactus it's a simple statement. You can absolutely cross the grand canyon, and mount Everest if you move enough dirt.

[@protorhinocerator142]

@@HappyDragneels_page Now get rid of the word "simply" and you've described the Everest/Grand project.

[@HappyDragneels_page]

​@@protorhinocerator142 just because youd have to move A LOT of dirt that doesnt make it complex, it makes it difficult. not the same thing.

[@tylerlowder2338]

Check out: -Renault FT, first tank to have its armament inside a fully rotating turret. -M56 Scorpion, unarmored, airmobile self-propelled tank destroye. M60A1, a tank designed in the late 50s that the USMC used until the 90s!

[@lairdcummings9092]

If you're any familiar at all with military practice ranges, you'd know that losing the Doom Turtle in field is insanely easy. The fields aren't just like some athletic complex - they're MANY miles across. There are no roads, only trails made by armored vehicles. No signposts. Plus, there are a LOT of giant divots and hillocks, and the shrubs & brambles grow both big, and fast. Aside from that, whilst big and heavy, it's not THAT big; just heavy. Hell, 53-foot truck trailers and Conex boxes are known to go missing under those conditions.

[@vacrawlers5436]

That’s actually the craziest part about the tank imo. It weighs as much as a blue whale and is only 36ft long

[@kamron_thurmond]

Was a legit good ad read for War Thunder. I'm not really a fan of "free to play" games, but the break down of the X-ray function, customization, and hit zones on enemies was actually interesting.

[@M4A3Sherman]

I love this tank, I love this video, and I absolutely lost it laughing when you said “It’s like an entire parking lot got a gun strapped to it and now it’s coming to kill the enemy!” Imagine Hans and Fritz absolutely losing it seeing this thing rolling up on them and nothing kills it!

[@78tag]

The Germans actually a "tank killer" that I think was even bigger but they also didn't know how to get it where it was needed. They couldn't run over most fields.

[@blake-81]

I mean, that's kinda what happened in WWI when the Brits deployed their Mark I tanks. At that point, no one had invented the Anti-Tank gun yet; there were no Panzerschrecks to schreck them panzers... And unless one artilleryman got lucky and managed to hit them, there was really nothing Hans and Fritz could kill a tank with..... unless the crew decided it was BLOODY TEATIME and stepped out of the tank for their tea break and the German Snipers had other ideas. And that's why the British WWII Crusader Tanks came with a built-in electric teapot inside...

[@Myomer104]

One of my favorites is the T30. A contemporary of the Doom Turtle, it was a project to fit an even bigger gun (155mm) in a heavy tank, with a turret... and it worked.

[@dummmonke4269]

Personally, my favorite tank (concept) is the Chrysler TV-8. It is literally a tank powered by a mini nuclear powerplant inside of the engine compartment, which was apparently inside of the GIGANTIC turret. If you hit this thing, it had the chance to take EVERYONE in the immediate area right out of the game.

[@MaliciousGrim05]

It never made it past the design stage, which probably was a good thing tbh, but the idea did kind of give off "shoot me, I dare you" vibes lol

[@mikescherrer4923]

Yeah, after a lengthy period of suffering. Nuclear reactors are not nuclear bombs.

[@dummmonke4269]

@@mikescherrer4923 I never said it would kill them *quickly* 🤷‍♂

[@seanwatts8342]

I did TDY at Ft. A.P. Hill VA in 1994. It was there for several years. You could NOT miss it.

[@JLiT_B]

Introduced my 11 year old son to your channel he loves history and your videos provide factual information delivered in a way that captures the attention of anyone who overhears you. Congrats on all you’ve achieved thus far and here’s to the achievements waiting to be reached in the future.

[@sshep7119]

Anyone that has spent a significant amount of time stationed at ANY base in the NE, wheter it be Active Army, National Guard, etc. Knows a fat 100% what it is like to "find" lost treasures from WW2 and before. The stories I have heard from first hand accounts of stuff found are bananas. Not just the NE but pretty much the entire East Coast, all the bases with history. There are still reports of supplies and other large play-things being found that were long forgotten. The story of the hunter finding this tank don't suprise me, not even the slightest. Missing nikes, no prob. Missing tank, it happens. A barrel of M60s that are otherwise allocated, no sweat. Can't find the obscure M9 mag pouch from your supply roster....report to S3 so they can take it out of your next two pay periods.

[@LexLootHoe]

Doomturtle was hide and seek champ for 27 years. Damn, remember to dump out your boots before putting em on, in case there's bugs, snakes, or tanks lurking in there.

[@TarahMatson-zz2hj]

My husband (who served with the 101st) and I absolutely love your channel! Thank you for your hard work and dedication in giving us the best military history channel there is. Love from Minnesota.

[@CaptainRudy4021]

Greetings from Minnesota!

[@Charlieswirld]

I remember that tank! I climbed all over that thing at the Patton Museum in Fort Knox in the mid eighties. It's my favorite tank, too.

[@dcbadger2]

"They made it take all day," is the most real military statement eve made.

[@kozy41]

private was THE best rank, zero accountability

[@kingirl3901]

Playing War Thunder, playing my USA line up with the Doom Turtle, while listening to Nick talk about the Doom Turtle is how God would want me to spend my Sunday. Blessed be me lmao

[@johnswanson2600]

I don't know what the equivalent to E4 was in 1944/45 but someone absolutely told them "You can go home after the work is done" and defined "work" in part as taking out the Seigfriend line.

[@donoimdono2702]

there is *no such entity* as the E-4 mafia. and if you ever mention it again, you will not kill yourself in a parking lot 🤨

[@vrause7956]

12:22 dont even get me started on seatbelt laws💀

[@indepthauto2367]

By the way, the tank (and hundreds of others) are NOT on display at the Infantry Museum at Benning/Moore. This is a common misconception to people who hear tanks are being moved to Moore. They are actually being stored in the US Cavalry and Armor Collection ON BASE, and the collection is not open to the public except for open house days at least once or twice a year. I went a month ago (I live nearby). FYI this just took the #1 spot for largest tank collection in the world due to a new influx of incoming tanks.

[@TalenGryphon]

Okay, but WHEN is this Museum open to the public? Like Veteran's Day or something? I'm sure I'm not the only one who NEEDS to see this

[@JacobSearles-t9g]

You sir are the taint rash that Nick describes in the beginning of every video

[@rogerdickerson6390]

9:00 "If you've ever mowed your lawn and found a car..." -Jeff Foxworthy

[@Casualbootguy]

Welp look like it’s my highlight of the day

[@skollmemes9960]

It's all downhill from here lmao

[@Casualbootguy]

@@skollmemes9960youre not wrong

[@jro341]

Mr. Ballen will have a story out today. Check it out. He is another great storyteller.

[@macewindow149]

I'm watching this at a wedding, so same XD

[@Casualbootguy]

@@macewindow149 bros got his priorities straight

[@ShapeshifterOS]

I have the T95 super heavy gun carriage "Doom Turtle" (T28 with the T95 track addition) in both Warthunder and World of Tanks. One of my favorite tanks to eat lead with. More fun in WoT since you can equip a 155mm gun, the T28/95 had only the 105mm which WT limits you to.

[@Bigrago1]

11:19 I just Googled T28 in a ditch and found the picture on Reddit

[@prayagkrishna]

Woah this deserves more upvotes

[@donnamlake6303]

Coast Guard veteran and husband just discovered F. E. Love your delivery, your style, and, especially, the research evident in your content. My father got into military aviation in the '30's, retired from North American/Rockwell in '87. He saw service as a tech rep on carriers in the Pacific WWII, Korea & Viet Nam. The Greatest Generation!

[@AstralqueEpoch]

Now i'm not suggesting a new favourite tank but I think you'll like the sheer ridiculousness of the New Zealand Home Grown Tank during WW2 The glorious Bob Semple. A tractor with corrugated steel welded onto it with multiple machine gun openings for the Brens. No anti tank to speak of. The tank was so effective it had 0 losses to speak of.

[@dasnyds00]

The Bob Semple might be the single most glorious thing that NZ ever produced. And they made Karl Urban.

[@kozy41]

I'm a retired Canadian armour crewman, I had to google the Bob Semple, that is red neck hillbilly home defence at its best 🤣

[@Mr.Finklebottom]

Back when I was a huge War Thunder player, my name on every account; Discord, Steam, Gaijin, all of them, was T-28 "Doom Turtle" before I eventually moved to Lesbian KA-50 Black Shark. All of my friends changed their names with me, so we had a whole War Thunder team in our server list.

[@the_last_spartan1386]

11:39 “Hold my defense budget” 🦅🦅🦅

[@TheXLink]

One of my favorite tanks are the TOG 2. It is what happens when you ask a bunch of old WW1 veterans to build a tank. It looks absolutely ridiculous and awesome at the same time.

[@JohnSmith-kg2rt]

That’s mine

[@ELCADAROSA]

Ahhh ... Jingles and his TOG videos come to mind! 😄

[@darkman30200]

*US Unzips defense budget* Siegfried Line "Is that it?" *Tractor spills out* Siegfried line "Oh shit"

[@the_fat_electrician]

This is the funniest comment ive read in awhile!

[@OGSontar]

Earlier today I watched a mini-documentary on this tank. However, your delivery is second to none, so I watched yours, and damn if I didn't learn a few new things about the turtle of deathly deadly dooooooom.

[@Kumquat_Lord]

Two video ideas: The battle off Samar. Taffy 3's fight was absolutely incredible. General Billy Mitchell: the man they named the B25 after, who showed the world aircraft would be VITAL in naval warfare.

[@Orion_Jaeger]

This man's take on Samar will be glorious

[@wetwillyis_1881]

I’d love a video from Nick about Taffy Thee.

[@urkince26]

I'm pretty sure to be a crew member on a WWII destroyer you had to be clinically tested, and found to have absolutely zero fucks to give.

[@Krieg-ch8ot]

As a sailor this opinion won't be all that surprising but General Mitchell's test is overrated. He gave the bombers the least realistic but best chance to sink the target ship. Left all the bulkhead doors open and it was a sitting target. Plus their not shooting back nor was there any on board DC crews. If anything his test did more to harm the Navies preparation for threats from the air then it did to help. They look at all the ways he "cheated" and basically said had it been a realistic test the ship wouldn't have been sunk or seriously damaged really. On a side note would love to see his take on Samar. He already hates the Yamato the story of how a bunch of destroyers and destroyer escorts made it and all its friends turn tale and run would be a hilarious video.

[@sierramike0913]

@@Krieg-ch8ot I mean, I want to see his description of the USS Johnston giving the Yamato a quick swat, get full-on decked in the face in return, only to come back a little while later screaming "I didn't hear no damn bell!"

[@Foxtrap731]

I saw it at Fort Knox. I asked the guy running the museum about it. He said, 'have you ever seen crap piled that high?' It's freaking huge.

[@billalumni7760]

The Sherman engine and corresponding slow speed was another weapon for the Doom Turtle. "When they see us coming (several hours) we will kill them with anticipation!!!"

[@haydenstewart8247]

Id just like to say that I e watched about 10-20 of your videos. Now I have a very VERY short attention span. So if you can keep my attention for more than like 2 minutes then I'd say your an incredible story teller. Thank you for teaching history in an interesting way.

[@bilinasmini3480]

'They lost the T95 in a bush' suggests that the mechanics who serviced it said 'fuck no' upon learning it was to be trashed. astonishingly grounded.

[@mattkelly2004]

Yeah this screams "hold my beer and watch this shit!"

[@danderson123]

Given some recent videos when I saw the title “Doom Turtle” I was fully expecting that the Marines brought a turtle to warfare and possibly gave it a gun

[@lyingbastard]

Not gonna lie, I wouldn't be entirely surprised if Marines "acquired" a giant Galapagos tortoise and slapped a Mk 19 on the shell.

[@wrathshorts2894]

Don't give them ideas.

[@bsowers22]

@@wrathshorts2894we’ve already seen what they can do with a Duck and a Horse! I don’t wanna know what they could get up to with a turtle!

[@danieldavis9348]

Tanks had their day for sure. They are obsolete equipment now but make an awesome guard if you set them in a place they don't need to move in. But. A crop drone with a few changes can take the tracks off and leave the rest intact. So a coffin if you don't get out fast

[@TheJ0kerOg]

You should make a video about Jack Lucas , I just learned about him and he joined in the marines at the age of 14 by forging his mother’s signature and saying he was 17, he later sacrificed himself and jumped on one grenade and pulled in another grenade survived it. He then went on to become a army paratrooper were both his parachutes failed and fell 3,500 and survived that, then his then-wife tried to kill him by setting fire too his house.

[@HappyDragneels_page]

how the fuck do you jump on 2 grenades and live, i second this episode request

[@Raven-Crest]

@TheJOkerOg Holy shit bro that's insane. I would love to see a video like that.

[@theknickerbocker5808]

​@HappyDragneels_page German potato mashers were not powerful. They acted more like stun grenades. Hence he was lucky enough to survive.

[@murphyncfd]

Yep, need a video for sure!

[@Sean-rc1hy]

had the funniest game with my friend when he was using the t28 in Warthunder. He was facing agasint a Jagdtiger and they kept bouncing off/ricocheted, then suddenly asks "Yo boys how do I deal with your t28" and then proceeds to get bombed by ally CAS. Still one of the funniest moments I know with this tank!

[@lilfattcatt7758]

“We need a big tank” *makes T28* “Nah bigger” *adds two extra tracks and some armor over them*

[@tanker1668]

I did my OSUT 19K training at Ft Knox. In 1982. I remember seeing it at the museum. Our DI marched us over from the Disney barracks. He wanted our candy asses to appreciate how good we had it in our new M1 Abrams

[@noneedtoknow07]

Germany: We have the most fortified line in the world! US: We got dirt!

[@davidkingman1684]

My favorite tank is the Centurion. It was powered by a V12 Rolls-Royce engine similar to the ones in Spitfires and Mustangs. Still being repaired an ran today.

[@Kliest3]

Need to start a Go fund to build a fully functional T28 and the Porsche Maus and have them go toe to toe, for academic purposes of course. America needs a Tankfest.

[@jasonlemoine5483]

Hey Fat Electrician, I know I'm way behind the power curve on commenting on this video, but better late than never. I was a Combat Engineer, and we had a tank, the M728 CEV (Combat Engineer Vehicle) it had a 165mm snub nose barrel that was used to bust bunkers. Could you possibly do a video on this. Would love to see that! Thank you for your time and content, love everything you do. 🤘😎

[@staceygruver1969]

My wife and myself are both veterans and absolutely love your channel and podcast events. I was a Gunner’s Mate First Class in the Navy certitude as a “G” as in GMG for “Naval Guns, and “M” for GMM for missiles. So I was certified in everything that Navy used from 9mm handgun to Nuclear Tipped Missiles, plus all types of Torpedoes. I mainly worked on the MK45 MOD 2 5” 54 caliber Gun Weapons System and the MK41 Vertical Launch Missile System for both Cruisers and Destroyers, plus Ships Armorer with accountability of all handguns, assault rifles, shotguns, night vision, and other special optics. Plus on my spare time was authorized to attempt to become “Surface Warfare Officer” (SWO) pin , on top,of the “Enlisted Surface Warefare Specialist” (ESWS) which I completed certification, I was the only enlisted service member that was certified as the every possible position from the Commanding Officer position with true to life assigned authority by a Atlantic Fleet Commander. But, before all of the while attending Gunner’s Mate “A” School it served in the Great Lakes Training Command - Main Side. / NTC. Th als to my best friend, whom we went to boot camp together, also with “c” schools and fine took me over to the USO on The NTC side of command more near to the Corpsman “A” School Hospital. My friend Cody Jordon took me there to get my opinion on an attractive wome, as he liked my advice most of the time. This time we walked into the Great Lakes USO up the stairway into the open long hallway for playing Pool, Videos, Music and Board Games. I only got a quick peek of her face and without a second thought I knew she was the one woman to marry but be the mother to my child. Jordan looked completely was blind sides as I never interjected my own personal feelings in to a war combat zone. The moment of a saw her, i knew witho even a single set of wordiness or our future. She’s was a recently dropped,out of Horpsmam “A” School” and I knew she was the only woman I would ever fall in love for. We met around October 12th or so 1992 and within months were married by a private church in Illinois.our wedding consisted with 2 fellow sailors , that my wife’s bride’s maid and my wife, trying to find the small courthouse. Since that October day we have been married for 35 years. We both were born and educated in Pennsylvania and as our families (The Rest Belt”. She was a 10/10 as compared to any other women or sight

[@PatrickKQ4HBD]

With that grammar in spelling? Sure you were.

[@leecarlson9713]

I had the largest station wagon built in the US- a Mercury, and I named it Sherry, because it drove like a -wait for it- Sherman tank! Took my Minnesota driver’s license test with that car. The instructor was very impressed when I parallel parked in 2 moves, when I backed in, and pulled forward to straighten, and was only 10 inches from the curb (maximum distance allowed was 12 inches). He didn’t think I could do it. (Did I mention I was only 5’2” tall, and sat on a cushion?). Loved that vehicle, felt I was impervious to almost any car or light truck on the road.

[@robertthomas5906]

Chevy Suburban is the largest station wagon ever built. Built on a full sized 1500 truck chassis. It was sold as a station wagon. Next in line is the Chrysler.

[@jamesseidl3661]

Technically its classified as a super heavy assault gun. what's the difference between an assault gun and a tank you might ask? tanks have turrets and are usually used in a more offensive role, an assault gun trades the turret for a bigger gun and is therefore better at taking out static targets or used defensively.

[@the_fat_electrician]

Except it literally classified as a super heavy tank. You can disagree or think thats wrong. But that is what it is.

[@internetzenmaster8952]

@@the_fat_electrician In other words, America went: "Screw your definitions! If I say it's a tank, it's a tank!!"

[@the_fat_electrician]

@@internetzenmaster8952 no really the notion that “it has to have a turret” is a weird seemingly irrelevant point. It protects the crew while attacking the enemy. Its a tank. None of the ww1 tanks had turrets yet everyone acknowledges them as tanks.

[@Billypajamas838]

​@@the_fat_electricianWhy did they classify it as a tank if it fulfills the role of an assault gun

[@JesterMotley]

@@internetzenmaster8952 America is the same asshole that made a turreted, tall, thin armored _tank_ _destroyer_, because America, AND it had the highest kill-to-loss ration of any other tank destroyer AND tank fielded by America in WW2. If we don't read our own manuals and feel any obligation or follow our doctrine, are we going to pay attention to naming shit?