The Doomed Franchise: 20 Years of Misfortune

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[@titanent.6897]

How old are you bro? That franchise is not mid. They piss poor. And their fans are toxic peices of trash. Your basketball knowledge is weak as hell dude. You shouldn't be allowed to make videos about a subject you clearly know nothing about.

[@justaverage4357]

I’ve always felt that despite not winning a championship the Jazz have always done very well at building consistently good teams, considering the small market they operate in. Low-key an underrated franchise in terms of management.

[@darrengordon-hill]

AKA "mid"!! See, what they SHOULD do is trade all their picks for a disgruntled star that wants out 6 months later... then do that all again. But actually building TEAMS and serving THE COMMUNITY?? Fk that shit!

[@augusttierney3199]

The internet has overused mid so much they’ve lost the meaning. Mid means middle. Something like the Hawks would be the definition of mid - always around .500. Half the time missing the playoffs, and besides twice, I don’t believe they’ve made it past the first round in like 15 years.

[@BD-1-And-Only]

They also have the longest playoff streak ever at 25 seasons. I’m a Utahn and lifelong jazz fan and… it’s been rough

[@BD-1-And-Only]

@@augusttierney3199Exactly

[@dionicio24]

In other words mid lol management is decent tho

[@M_11_m41n]

As much as we laugh at Utah, and for good reason at times, they know how to field a competitive product, rebuild a team when they need to, and keep the fans invested. That's more than I can say for some teams.

[@lonewolf2513]

True

[@Ghostkiller__166]

Yes, but after 50 years of existing it's time they win something. Putting duos together time and time again with nothing to show for it Isn't good.

[@Disxreet]

Cool, can we get a chip tho? 50 years of mid is what that sounds like. Just like the Mike Tomlin situation. No losing seasons is an unbelievable achievement, but he has nothing to show for it.

[@M_11_m41n]

@@Disxreet But, Utah does go through losing seasons and do their best to build a winning team.

[@Ghostkiller__166]

@@Disxreet different is Tomlin has a ring

[@brosamjgd]

As a jazz fan, that 2021 clippers series made me throw a controller through the window

[@JuanTonSoupXP]

It genuinely gets to me that the clippers managed to weasel their way into a conference finals smh

[@hansonlangi4347]

Terrance Mann haunts me to this day

[@brosamjgd]

@@hansonlangi4347 come to the Jazz anonymous. Helps the pain

[@LockeDemosthenes2]

Same. Quinn Snyder was either unable or unwilling to make adjustments and just kept playing the same lineups and running the same plays, even after the Clippers obviously figured all of that out after the first 2 games and were able to make proper adjustments to start winning.

[@SuperCozzmic]

@@hansonlangi4347I shutter when I hear his name. Bro is like Voldemort to me.

[@patrickporter4440]

As a Jazz fan who started watching Donovan's rookie year, I didn't really appreciate what we had until it was gone. I loved those Jazz teams. It would bring me so much joy to see Rudy, Donovan, Joe, Bojan, and Royce play together again even if I know it wouldn't result in a championship.

[@kingforte9246]

You’ll be alright

[@LockeDemosthenes2]

Considering how much of a small market Salt Lake City is, they're actually a very impressive franchise, especially compared to teams like Sacramento or Minnesota. Sure they don't have a ring yet, but I could see that changing in the near future if they continue to rebuild and develop talent.

[@THE_BEAR_JEW]

Nothing impressive about the Jazz. They have 1 WCF appearance since 98.

[@LockeDemosthenes2]

@@THE_BEAR_JEW compared to other small market teams that have gone 10+ years without making a playoffs appearance, they absolutely are impressive.

[@Cooe.]

While definitely a small market, Salt Lake City really isn't as small of one as you think it is. The SLC CSA has like ≈2x the population of say the New Orleans or Memphis CSA's. Salt Lake City itself just isn't a massive city population-wise because of the way it was zoned and mostly being a commuter city.

[@LockeDemosthenes2]

@@Cooe. I mean, yeah. I live there, so I'm aware of this. The city has only like 200k people, but the metro population is about 2 million. Even then, it's smaller than the vast majority of NBA markets. It's rated 23rd out of 28 markets (because NY and LA both have 2 teams). Even then, with the exception of San Antonio (which is arguably the best run small market team in pro sports), the Jazz are among the best in terms of success in relatively low populated regions.

[@THE_BEAR_JEW]

​@@LockeDemosthenes2 Still bad though. Impressive only when weighed on a scale of low expectations. Even their drafting is just ok. The best they've drafted since Malone is Mitchell and he's not exactly a top 10 player. Other noteworthy names are Hayward and Deron Williams, who were not top 10 guys either. Maybe Deron Williams was for like 2 seasons.

[@alexlarsen2464]

Despite being a small market and undesirable location, their stadium is the loudest in the NBA and attendance is top 5. Playoffs in Utah are pretty intense.

[@connorflinn4354]

Jazz and Suns are in a race for most “close but not enough” reward

[@DaleRojoDecaf]

The Suns are the winning-est franchise to never win a title.

[@hydrophilichunk1346]

Suns have the funniest history of any team imo. They have 4 of the top 7 teams to miss the playoffs. Kareem coinflip. Horrendous playoff luck. Generally good though

[@ColdHoops]

@connorflinn4354 That award/title applies to Boston for the last 6 seasons😅

[@GarkKahn]

The suns would get more titles than Boston if they give it to the team that worked the hardest to win it

[@user-sd2gv8vz8f]

Lowkey the jimmy butler heat are a sleeper pick for that reward ngl

[@SuperCozzmic]

As a Jazz fan, the most frustrating thing is that these teams were actually good and so fun to watch. I remember prime Steph and the Warriors pulling up in Utah to get blown out by Rudy-Mitch by 30. And it happened more than once. Gordon Hayward hitting a buzzer beater against prime LeBron and the Cavs who would win the chip that year. And sometimes Stockton-Malone would dismantle MJ and the Bulls. The teams could just never do it when it mattered most. But hey, there can only be one champion. We’ll have ours one day, until then, we still continue to have our small moments.

[@micahheyward5342]

2016-17: 5th seed, swept in Conference Semis 2017-18: 5th seed, lost 4-1 in Conference Semis 2018-19: 5th seed, knocked out in Round 1 2019-20: 6th seed, blew 3-1 lead in Round 1 2020-21: 1st seed, blew 2-0 lead in Conference Semis (Blew 25 point lead in Game 6) 2021-22: 5th seed, knocked out in Round 1 2022-23: Started top 4 in the West after 15 games, finished bottom 5 in the West after 82 games.

[@DomKickPicks]

Exactly half as many blown series as the years his baby mothers age was

[@CastawayBench]

i never realized that they were consistently 5-6 seed except 2021. I guess they were never really true contenders.

[@X02Overdose]

@@CastawayBenchIn 2021 they were

[@yea3702]

@@X02Overdosethey were not contenders in 2021 💀

[@sendAJtospace]

@@X02Overdose Everybody and their mother saw that pretender from a mile away

[@WOWZAWOW-qy5zo]

As a jazz fan, ive never been happier and more nervous for a dom2k vid

[@rimgarr]

honestly no matter what i’ll always be a fan and enjoy the team. everyone in the comments is spot on regarding the management being better than most and they consistently give us something to cheer for. even in our “tanking season” last season it still felt fun and meaningful

[@davidmckee586]

As a jazz fan, I love our team. Even though I know the chances of keeping a superstar here are slim to none, it’s just cool to think we have a franchise that does their best to stay competitive amongst the other giant markets. When Denver won this year it gave me a little hope that if we find the right pieces, we might be able to do the same thing.

[@Anyrandomnamewilldo]

As a Jazz fan, I seriously feel like we consistently get dealt bad hands. Our two best ever players are a pedo and an anti-vaxxer, we "contended" in the Jordan era, we consistently managed to rebuild and field competitive teams, but always seemed to catch some sort of all time player. Kobe dogged us for years, and even as an old man he dropped 60 on us. Then Hayward betrayed us to go to Boston, but we managed to draft a star in Mitchell, and things were looking up. But then we gave too much money to Ingles, Royce, Bojan and a few others. If we just had a few perimeter defenders and a backup big, I think the Mitchell and Gobert core would still be together. It annoys me how unfortunate we've been. Even the strain between Mitchell and Gobert was caused by the pandemic. Im especially pissed off because I became a Jazz fan over a game that I watched in 2011. Jazz @ Heat. I decided to root for whoever won, and Paul Millsap's stupid ass had to become fucking Tmac and condemn me to this shit. Here's hoping Lauri can turn our fortunes around, but idk

[@johndebono1870]

I'm a Raptors fan, but I'll occasionally root for Utah cause you guys deserve a better GOAT than Karl Malone.

[@atlien1988]

Any team that makes it to several Conference Finals & consecutive Finals is definitely a contender.

[@Anyrandomnamewilldo]

@atlien1988 for sure, but it's just the fact that we came up against what is the greatest player and dynasty of all time to many. That was our biggest period of title contention and we ran into those mfs lol

[@prlysis]

Who the hell cares what John Stockton's stance on vaccines is? He's entitled to his opinion. Karl, on the other hand...

[@BOnYTB]

Lauri is rly good, and yall have a bunch of picks, Ainge at the helm, and young guys like Ochai, Keyonte, Hendricks, Kessler, Sensabaugh, Fonteccio, etc. The John Collins thing was a bad idea with hindsight, but he’s only got 2 more years after this one so w/e. Also the West is stacked, so even with a really good HC (forgot to mention that) and some good players, you should be able to keep your T10 protected 1st for this year at least. I mean you’re at the 10 spot rn, and Lauri is healthy…but some teams below you should start winning more. MEM is only a few games back. TOR should be a bit better with the fit of IQ and they have no incentive to tank bc they’re not gonna be bad enough to keep a T6 protected pick without crazy lotto luck, then maybe ATL makes a trade or something. You shouldn’t be higher than the 11 seed ever really, and as long as MEM passes you you’ll be 12. And all you need to basically guarantee keeping T10 protected pick is the 9th best odds. 9th odds is a T10 pick like 97%. Even 10th is around 80%. So if you’re around the 11th spot with like 8-10g to go, just gotta sit a couple guys and get that 9 spot and you’ll have a T10 pick 97%. ‘25 is T10 protected too, but ideally at that point you’re too good to keep it idk. Even tho this draft is weaker than normal, you never know…and it always helps to add one more T10 pick. Plus if you keep this pick this year, giving it up in 2025 isn’t so bad since that’s when the picks start coming in. CLE/MIN picks are in ‘25 so after this year you’re good. GL

[@gabedabling7894]

Like, i get it. But theyre a wayyy tiny market, bojan bogdanovic was probably their biggest free agent signing in like 15 years. But theyve stayed competitive, rebuild at the right time, and havent really ever commited to a tank which i can respect. Edit: changed Bogdan to Bojan

[@donavonzerbest9530]

Straight up. This video made me laugh, comedy gold. Well done amigo. Subscription earned.

[@alexlarsen2464]

My dad is 73 and has been a jazz fan since day 1 . All I want is for them to win one title before he is gone.

[@HaHa-gy5vg]

Tell pops he still has time to switch to a team that will win one before he is gone.

[@Ghostkiller__166]

At least the Dwill jazz you can make the argument that they had a chance in another universe, no one ever believed in Mitchell's jazz.

[@ZayWilson-v8l]

16 years no triple double is absolute insanity

[@Augustp08]

Been loving these franchise retrospective videos, would be great to see more teams modern history

[@JuanTonSoupXP]

I was so angry whenever they lost to Denver in the bubble lmfao. The core they had in the Donovan Mitchell era could’ve won it all, but every season something happened in the playoffs. I really wanted to see that team succeed. Don’t gotta be a fan to appreciate their run.

[@winter9242]

I honestly find it hard to see though clippers or lakers will knock utah out since they have the defenders capable of stopping mitchell

[@mike04574]

Wcf at best, maybe the finals. They never had a core that could win it all

[@ColdHoops]

@JuanTon How can you have a 'run' if you've never made the conference finals or finals? That's like saying Lob City had a run. Don't be ridiculous 😂

[@JuanTonSoupXP]

@@ColdHoops you obviously fucking read my comment so don’t ask me what I mean you waste of oxygen

[@ajwalker8804]

That game 6 vs the Clippers was the perfect representation of the Jazz. Shows great to elite talent and then badly getting exposed by major weaknesses in the playoffs. Watching Terrance Mann hit corner 3 after 3 and the Jazz making absolutely no adjustments. So many hapless loses in the playoffs

[@alphabah6094]

The Jazz story: always good, never good enough

[@sponko]

bruh the hawks are wayyy more mid and they have like 50+ seasons on the jazz of being mid

[@mike04574]

Agreed. Surprised no one ever talks about how average the hawks are. Dominique wilkins, a fluke “big 4”, and trae young is everything they’ve had notable in the last 4 decades. only 2 conference finals in 50 years?

[@yea3702]

constant mid

[@brentw0681]

Clearly. And the hawks are in the east, much easier than the west.. hawks only 1 ecf in 40 years and got swept

[@RonnieG]

Some of those elbows Malone landed may be considered his 2nd worse offenses over "the hug".

[@superiorgaming9399]

As a Jazz fan, I'm glad they traded Mitchell and Gobert. We were never going to win a championship with that duo, and we got great pieces out of those trades while we still could.

[@urbaindelva7869]

The Jazz organization really went all in on the guard-(semi)big man combo 3 TIMES. They were the definition of insanity. Now I'm that they kept Hayward while drafting Mitchell to play with Gobert. That would have been a solid trio that would not have changed much, but it's funt to think about. Hopefully, this current rebuild is more fruitful.

[@iam2119]

You know gonna be a good night when Dom2k uploads at night!

[@eastxsidexswagg]

Utah was so fun to use in 2K11. Those Deron Williams vs CP3 debates got HEATED

[@Adog00]

This is crazy😂 8 minutes of jazz history

[@jordanjenkins1671]

Got really hopeful during that 2020-2021 season when we were the #1 seed in the West. Absolutely sucked to exit in the 2nd round like we've always done. But we always seem to rebuild pretty well enough to be a playoff seed when we need to, that's why we went from the Stockton/Malone era to the D Will / Boozer era to the Hayward era to the D Mitchell / Gobert era. So now I'm just being patient until the front office and coaching staff can develop our next really good team and hopefully Finals contender.

[@THE_BEAR_JEW]

The Jazz have these good regular season guys who get exposed in the playoffs. Stockton and Malone included. It’s why they didn’t make the Finals until Drexler, Kemp, Barkley, and Olajuwon were over the hill. They got lucky to make it before Kobe and Duncan became superstars.

[@prlysis]

They reached the conference finals 5 times in 7 seasons and the NBA Finals in back-to-back seasons. That doesn't happen by accident.

[@THE_BEAR_JEW]

@@prlysis I stated their barriers throughout the 90s and nothing you said disputes that.

[@brentw0681]

They had to beat the rockets spurs and Lakers just to make the finals. And beat the sonics in 98..

[@prlysis]

@THE_BEAR_JEW with your logic, Stockton and Malone were both "over the hill" as well when they reached the Finals. In '97, Stockton was 35, and Malone was a month shy of 34. In '98, Stockton was 36 (and on a minutes restriction while coming off knee surgery), while Malone was a month shy of 35. The 90s Bulls were "lucky" before Kobe and Shaq peaked. The Bad Boys Pistons were "lucky" before MJ and Pippen peaked. Etc. Etc.

[@THE_BEAR_JEW]

@@brentw0681 They didn't beat the Sonics in 98. As I said, the Rockets stars had hit the cliff. Duncan was a rookie, Robinson was post-injury. Lakers were really just Shaq and Eddie Jones (Horry, D-Fish, and Kobe weren't really part of the starting lineup).

[@drivewaylegend9917]

As an older Jazz fan who literally watched every one of these eras, all I can say is …..it’s all true.

[@CasterShellz]

The Mitchell-Gobert Jazz losing to the Kawhi-less Clippers and the Luka-less Mavs in back to back postseasons is ridiculous.

[@rileyneff1889]

You summarize the Jazz as 3 duos that kept coming up short. I summarize them as the Spurs, but with zero draft lottery wins instead of three.

[@jdog1729]

2:33 thats just wild bro lmfao

[@ImKarl]

I was about to go off as a non Jazz fans how you can call them as mid when they were pretty decent fridge contenders in many eras, then I watched the video, and it just made sense.

[@macnsteez3938]

2:13 you make a good case about that Malone screen being their curse, but let's be real here: they're always going to be cursed while they still call themselves the Jazz.. give it back to NOLA already, maybe the voodoo doctors will lift the curse lol

[@maricvicfreyg.argonza1302]

The Pacers right now after getting Spicy P sort of remind me of that Deron Williams and Carlos Boozer Jazz squads.

[@kingdeedee]

Crazy to think we were 1 missed call (and a hypothetical overtime) from having MJ vs Hakeem in the 97 Finals. Olajuwon was having a crazy playoff run that year too

[@ZeusAmun-pt9dc]

I really wanted this topic to be talked about. I loved the Boozer Williams teams.

[@everythingsporting]

As a jazz fan i can’t agree more with this video

[@AdamKlownzinger]

It sucks because I knew how good Donovan Mitchell was going to be the moment we drafted him. I remember being absolutely convinced that rookie late-lottery pick Donovan Mitchell would be all it would take to convince Hayward to resign. Fast forward a few years and we’re the #1 seed in the NBA…and we just could not make any serious playoff runs. I don’t really get why. In the Hayward era, fine, we just were never that great to begin with, but we had the ability I thought to win it all in the last few seasons but never even really came close.

[@Damian.flennigan]

It’s wild being with a KZbinr since a small amount of followers and then seeing them come up😭😭

[@Steelo832]

You do the Rockets wrong and eventually you get what’s coming to you. Look at everybody who’s ever done the Rockets wrong or went off against them. Really think about it.

[@L1LJ0K3R26]

Ever since that 98’ finals, the Bulls n Jazz have been in similar paths as franchises it feels like lol

[@ColdHoops]

Not even a Utah fan, but I was rooting for them hard in 2022. When they beat Dallas in game 4, I thought they were winning the series Even post-game when Gobert said, "F* the talk," got me hyped as hell😭😭

[@nocturne311]

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[@GarkKahn]

Considering the desert isn't a big market is actually impressive how Utah got all that, Phoenix went to the finals or at least fans feel they deserved it more and Denver managed to win last year

[@spencer6738]

yeah its been tough to be a fan, man. god damn.

[@chandlerrich9786]

Born and raised in Utah in the early 90s I didn’t experience the Finals versus Jordan’s bulls. I can say that it feels like that was the only real chance of simply sniffing a championship for the franchise. Since then, can’t say I’m surprised they made it to the WCF to get clapped by the Spurs with Duncan. No one wants to play in Utah, that’s the reality.

[@Spider-Complexion]

I never heard anyone say I’m going to Utah for vacation Iykyk

[@javendarci]

the dr briefs pop up is fireeeee

[@nevenpatrk9661]

Ngl Atlanta has been the Jazz of the East for a while now. They have mostly been a middle of the road team with a couple deep playoff runs with little to no success otherwise.

[@thxlopez]

Do one on the Indiana pacer cause 1994-2004 they made finals once and eastern finals like 6or 7 times

[@evolutiontail5697]

God bless Lauri Markenann and Colin Sexton. Let's see what NBA has in store for this Duo.

[@Greenglower2012]

This confuses me, im not even remotely a jazz fan but this team has been one of the most successful teams of the last 20 years. Always in the thick of the west, really good late 2000s and late 2010s teams, theyre not even remotely a failure. Reaching the finals is insanely difficult

[@KootenaiKing]

"Mail-man don't deliver on Sundays...."

[@johndebono1870]

The Jazz actually bring up an interesting philosophical dilemma for fans of non-destination markets, would you rather have their consistent "good, but not great" status over 20 years or the pain of being absolute trash for 10-15 years knowing you might get a title out of it (Think like Toronto, Milwaukee and Denver).

[@yea3702]

‼️ milwaukee mentioned ‼️

[@BOnYTB]

Minus Karl Malone Utah has done super well. With Ainge they got rid of DMitch and Gobert at the right time, so this rebuild will be short. You already have Lauri, a ton of picks, and they’ll prolly add a T10 pick this year also. So they won’t even be trash long at all. I’d much rather that existence than a lot of teams. Grass is always greener tho ig

[@johndebono1870]

@@BOnYTB Once again, its not to say the Jazz are a bad organization and it is impressive in it's own right they seem to always build good teams purely through the draft and development. I just don't know at what point in the last 40 years have the Jazz been seen as favourites to win it all.

[@alexlarsen2464]

I’d trade 1 title for 50 years bad team.

[@gmon3y46]

Jordan Clarkson got the first triple double for them some days ago…..

[@brentw0681]

Jazz are a great regular season franchise, but always come up short. 3rd highest win% since 1984 and 4th highest since 2000 and no rings :(

[@alphabah6094]

I think a Bulls timeline after Jordan or the absolute misfortune of the blazers would be appropriate if you continue this series

[@Adrian-uq4yb]

Second most egregious act is crazy LMAO.

[@aupaub1168]

Now John Collins needs a true PG, so they can test this theory one more time lol 😂

[@Epic2kartworks]

They should trade Collins lol, he's been awful

[@jackbanks23]

Rubio had a triple double in the playoffs but first in the regular season, yes

[@kennethmartinez3709]

You forgot how in the years b4 Mitchell, Hayward took them to the playoffs in 16 and 17 which is pretty hard in the west and in 17 they beat the clippers and that was cp3 last game on the clippers and interestingly enough the jazzs teams led by Hayward both years lost to the warriors

[@LetsTalkAbout1125]

Utah Jazz can be summed up as 90s: Jordan and Malone is a playoff choker 2000s: Mediocre but still there, most known for beating the We Believe Warriors and losing to the Spurs the next round 2010s: Known for blowing huge leads and being mediocre One thing I will give Utah credit for is, they know how to produce QUALITY all star level Point Guards; Stockton, DWill, Mike Conley, Ricky Rubio

[@Apexskyborn]

Im just waiting on the cavs one here 😂

[@greybatch07]

i need this for the atlanta hawks

[@dionysise5008]

For some reason it's always "Stockton and Malone" and never "Malone and Stockton"

[@GoodyearSimp]

Another banger!!

[@DaBearsFanYT]

great video would love a bulls one

[@slimypickle19]

Sucks they're a small market in the middle of nowhere USA. Relocate that team to a coast & their history would show more titles & bigger free agent signings.

[@raheem201231]

Karl said it was the pick he’s set in his life 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@eduardooneal]

Are they or the thunder the most incompetent?

[@andrewf9322]

Snuck in some Joe Ingles footage. That my makes this video a win for me 😁

[@conorwatchvidz]

They did get knocked out by a goat - Jalen Brunson

[@iansanchez966]

The Deron Williams and Mitchell/Gobert era Jazz are both what I would call "fake contenders". Good regular seasons, maybe even a good playoff seed, but never realistically close to winning a chip. Jazz only made the WCF in '07 bc they faced an 8 seed in round 2. Mitchell/Gobert, meanwhile, after getting the no. 1 seed in 2021, blew a 2-0 lead to perhaps the most cursed franchise in NBA history w/no Kawhi. Wild. Even so, I was still foolish enough to think they'd be favorites with Luka hurt in 2022, but somehow they got themselves down 2-1 before Luka even played. Fake contenders, no way around it

[@davyunwashington3613]

Funny enough what t wolves should was all Rudy need was help on the defensive side cuz he was the only defender they had with that core

[@rowen4989]

U forgot Deron Williams forcing Jerry Sloan into retirement

[@alecrabuse9955]

Not the same. The Stock and Mailman is the greatest duo and individuals to never win...

[@THE_BEAR_JEW]

They had longevity but not greatness. Their heights were never as good as the best of their era, so they failed. There was always someone better, when it wasn’t Drexler, it was Payton and Kemp, or Olajuwon or MJ and Pippen.

[@BananaWorm]

Ever since I moved to Utah, I’ve loved to make fun of the jazz fans. I was a little disappointed to see them be bad tbh though.

[@stealthiscool]

I ain't been this early in a hot minute

[@hahafreeman]

did you just say rudy gobert is a future hall of famer

[@alexlarsen2464]

You’re and idiot if you don’t think so.

[@TheSiemek]

Story of my life…

[@drakesmith4857]

We gotta get rid of mid so so mediocre anything but mid also if a team isn't elite doesn't mean there avg there's above average good really good i say those late 2000 teams were really good ... those michell rudy teams were borderline great beat my thunder russ and pg then were legit contenders in the bubble

[@Izm_Skizm]

Wow. I almost thought the Jazz were mid but this is just sad.

[@jeremythelegend5020]

pls do a russ career story

[@CrazyxEnigma]

The Indiana Pacers are the Utah Jazz East. Or is it the Utah Jazz are the Indiana Pacers West?

[@succumbtosorrow]

6:33

[@darrengordon-hill]

Sorry... but what was the ending about?? You went from "mid duos" to (apparently) "solo accomplishment", but I've no idea what that might be

[@darrengordon-hill]

It's okay, I missed the first few seconds... Who the fuck cares about "triple doubles"?? Meaningless arbitrary "catchphrase" isn't how games are won!! MJ didn't average a triple-double... so I guess he's trash... 20pts 8rbs 12 assts is arguably better than 20/10/10 9pts 17asst 7tbs arguably better than 20/10/10

[@mike04574]

Is gobert really a sure fire hall of famer?

[@alexlarsen2464]

Basketball hall of fame is easier to get into compared to like baseball or football. With multiple dpoy and another one this year he will get in.

[@eyebelieve3]

You got Stockton and Malone featured in a thumb of a Mid vid. Nah bro, gonna be hitting that 'dont recommend channel' button. Peace!

[@jakeepperson7760]

Anyone who thinks Rudy was the reason the Jazz lost don’t know basketball

[@Richxwolf]

Utah 😂😂😂😂😂

[@Ssjgeek]

Future hall of fame… Rudy …???

[@Chris-ql2ih]

I could be wrong but aren’t they the winningest franchise without a ring?

[@ikedatike2533]

That goes to the suns actually 🤣

[@noyce.]

93-94 no Jordan = Lost NBA Western Conference Finals (1-4) versus Houston Rockets Fair, Hakeem. 94-95 Jordan came back = Lost NBA Western Conference First Round (2-3) versus Houston Rockets Fair, Hakeem. 98-99 no Jordan = Lost NBA Western Conference Semifinals (2-4) versus Portland Trail Blazers Malone 35 yo, Stockton 36 yo 99-00 no Jordan = Lost NBA Western Conference Semifinals (1-4) versus Portland Trail Blazers Felt like they underachieved here this 2 years or the 90s competition really isn't there. MJ, Hakeem, Shaq+Kobe really gate-keep the sh** out of them. 90s Jazz probably had the best odds to win a chip - - - - - Deron+Boozer+AK just doesn't feel like a real contender Hayward's meh Mitchell+Gobert's meh (Totally forgot about this stint somehow) Lauri+Clarkson's meh Man they're like the Hawks of the West. Which technically isn't that bad of a team for fans.

[@itszirvah]

i always really enjoyed watching those mitchell - gobert jazz teams in the playoffs

[@noyce.]

@@itszirvah Mitchell in playoff is fun to watch! I enjoyed watching the Al Jefferson's UTAH for some reason haha

[@BOnYTB]

I’m not a UTA or ATL fan, but I’d def rather be an Utah fan especially now. ATL is in purgatory basically.

[@brentw0681]

You say "no Jordan" but Stockton and Malone were like 36 years old in 1999 lol

[@brentw0681]

Jazz have made 7 wcf hawks have only made 1.. in the last 45 years Compare win% and playoff appearances and the West is much better than the east usually. Unfair comparison imo

[@nymade4130]

Damn I’m mad early lmao

[@squaaaaad]

Nah this is Covid's fault. Our chemistry was strong until the incident