The DOWNFALL of TMNT 2012!

[@AskAir]

Thanks for watching! What do YOU think of TMNT 2012?

[@praisethesun95]

Best TMNT series so far

[@dee_torch5]

@@praisethesun95facts

[@gavinsiville9969]

I remember watching this show when I was very little, but looking back I gotta say it’s really not that good.

[@dee_torch5]

@@gavinsiville9969 damm that’s crazy

[@gavinsiville9969]

Yeah man. I remember the episode where the turtles were attacked by April’s mother who was actually some lovecraftian monster and the episode where the Krang’s invaded earth.

[@hattoripool1533]

To this day I still wonder what happened to all the past Turtles that went into Space (I feel like the present Turtles basically replacing them should have had some repercussions in the future. There is actually a fanfic that explores this). Also what happened to Timothy?

[@AskAir]

I wonder the same things!

[@Vergileditz]

I'm pretty sure the past turtles went back I'm time just like the present turtles to stop earth from being destroyed again, because without the help of the their other selves they fail

[@ΣμαράγδαΠανανού]

Me to

[@osk1423]

In "Carmageddon" episode in s5 you can actually see sth similar to Timothy's container at the bottom of the water, which can tell us that Donnie didn't rescue him and he stayed freeze forever...

[@unripetheberrby6283]

Do you know the fanfic's name please?

[@ORB1424]

Personally, I like the slower pace of the show. I recently bought the complete sires DVD box and am rewatching seasons 3-5 for the first time in years, and from what I remember about the show its quality stayed pretty consistent throughout the whole thing, which is something other TMNT shows can't say.

[@ORB1424]

If you're not a huge fan of the later seasons tho that's fine.

[@ayyale_]

@@ORB1424I cannot get through season 5😅

[@rickyronny4019]

@@ORB1424idk I liked Season 3 and 4 a lot. Season 5 is fine

[@StevenJones851]

Seasons 1-4 are my favorite

[@Foxy-Mask_Menace]

I loved the series and also recently bought the complete series. But the last few episodes just weren't very good in my opinion :(

[@Nahneezy]

There is no downfall to Tmnt 2012 we just got older and master splinter died💀

[@MilliMac.]

Exactly this guy is a goofy

[@bowserbreaker2515]

I like how this show felt like a long running story that really did have actual stakes and grew up with the audience. Things changed.

[@MilliMac.]

@@bowserbreaker2515 so nostalgic and such a great show decided to rewatch it this year definitely recommend 🙏🏽

[@ShockwaveFPSStudios]

That and Rise of the TMNT was already going to happen by the 2012 Ninja Turtles actually ended… so it’s not really a downfall and more so a tragedy.

[@bowserbreaker2515]

@@ShockwaveFPSStudios How is it a tragedy? The show ended on a high note.

[@midnightfox3157]

I love the tmnt 2012 they’re certainly my fav version of the turtles I’ve ever seen no other turtles beats this for me

[@AoifeMcKay-wc2uv]

Same dude same

[@simplycloud_]

real nothing can replace it

[@ForrestFox626]

Eh

[@UsernameUsername0000]

Bro worried about the wrong downfall

[@oldman5247]

This show didn’t really have a downfall. As much as it just became more mediocre. Season 5 was hit or miss to be completely honest. However, I can say this though about TMNT 2012. At least it didn’t drop in quality as hard as the 2003 show did. The 2003 show is still my favorite version of TMNT. Yet, I can’t really deny the egregious drop of quality. Between seasons 5 and 6.

[@rickyronny4019]

Yeah. I like 2003 series but I agree

[@lylelylecrocodile2538]

When season 5 hit, it hit hard, but when it didn't, it was extremely boring

[@rickyronny4019]

@@lylelylecrocodile2538 fair

[@ashhabimran239]

It's crazy how that show is still remembered fondly despite the drop in quality in later seasons. If it was released in modern day, people would remember it ONLY for the drop in quality

[@jeremystewart1022]

​@lylelylecrocodile2538 well just consider season 5 like an epilogue which it really is

[@d4red3v1l8]

11:48 Honestly Leo’s voice changing makes sense if they wanted them to keep aging up, and it makes sense because he got hurt.

[@trashboat5388]

WTF do you mean down fall? The show ended it wasn't canceled

[@micahmx6002]

Not gonna lie going too much of this review is "why not just do with the 2003 show did" or "the 2003 show is better". Talk about your criticisms of the show on its own merits and demerits and not comparing it to some previous version that you like, that's not exactly a good way of reviewing, if reviewing at all

[@rickyronny4019]

Exactly. You can’t criticize one adaptation for not doing exactly what its predecessor did. Adaptations are meant to be different and many changes are intentional.

[@LingeringWont]

@@rickyronny4019if only the ATLA fanbase could see this with the Netflix series

[@rickyronny4019]

@@LingeringWont I guess but that’s a bit different since it’s seems more like a live action remake imo

[@StevenJones851]

Yeah he needed to review this better

[@rickyronny4019]

@@StevenJones851 and he needs to watch the entire thing, doesn’t matter how “boring” some plot lines are; if you want to make a proper review you gotta watch the show from start to finish

[@doczirebeka8312]

I personally love the fact that I can biologically explain the white eyes. We see how leatherhead's eyes turn green when he looses control. I think the green cover on his eyes is the same protection what the turtles get with the white eyes.

[@KairaSuperSayan93]

I always liked the Seth Green voice work for Leonardo

[@hattoripool1533]

I always wondered what Super Shredder would have looked like had Shredder not gotten impatient with the Mutagen

[@starnblack09]

Wdym

[@ybz4dappl]

@@starnblack09 stockman was attempting to fully stabilize the super mutagen, and as time went on shredder got impatient so he forced stockman to give him everything

[@starnblack09]

@ybz4dappl oh so the scene where he tells him do it

[@hattoripool1533]

@@ybz4dappl i always imagined had Shredder been patient he would have looked similar to the Super Shredder of the 90s tmnt games

[@ybz4dappl]

@@starnblack09 bingo

[@comicbookking3446]

A few questions - what do you think of Tiger Claw in this show ? - What’s wrong with Bebop and Rocksteady in this show ? - what do you think of Josh Peck as a voice actor despite you not being a fan of his performance as Casey Jones ?

[@gavinsiville9969]

I kinda liked Rocksteady’s design in this show. I think he looks rad with those golden spikes and I love that Russian accent. Bebop’s design is fine, I do like those purple glasses and Mohawk tho.

[@AskAir]

@@comicbookking3446 I like Tigerclaw. Probably the best of Shredders sidekicks. Bebop and Rocksteady were overused and unfunny for the most part. They had some good appearances though. As much as I hate Casey's voice, I like Josh Peck's performances in other things.

[@IIIISai]

@@AskAir eh i think bepop was fine, xever was wasted

[@rickyronny4019]

@@AskAirdamn. I personality prefer these versions of Bebop and Rocksteady. They’re actually competent and powerful enemies to the Turtles but they’re still goofy and wacky

[@COELACANTHofficial]

​@@IIIISaiXever was so wasted. He had significant potential.

[@ayyale_]

I like how Leo’s katanas changed in season 5 thought it’s showing that he’s growing up to be a good sensei for his brothers.

[@An0nym0usM_0]

Fun fact: thoes are the same katanas Splinter used during the season 4 finale

[@Mister_Don888]

Except he only used them for his solo look

[@log111-nb7me]

I never liked the Space episodes but that's just me.

[@TheRealAlienX]

Babe wake up A.S.K. Air dropped a banger

[@pepitopacquiao]

In 2012: THE WORST SHOW EVER! In 2017: THE BEST SHOW EVER! In 2024: THE WORST SHOW EVER! WTF Happened to the society?!

[@moussacamara0614]

Am I the only who had a crush on Karai in this series

[@ashesGeek]

I know it's subjective, but 2012 Karai is probably the most beautiful of them all with 2007 Karai coming right close to her. Rise Karai is quite a beauty too.

[@shanecorcoran2542]

Nope, pretty sure she was my first cartoon crush

[@catrakitten]

@moussacamara909 You're not. Karai was one of my one of my bi awakenings along with Jasmine, Esmeralda, Zuko, Katara, Mai, Suki, June, Korra, Mako, Asami, Hawkgirl, Black Canary, Huntress, Mercy Graves, Shadow the Hedgehog, Sonic the Hedgehog, Sally Acorn, Infinite, Batgirl (Barbara Gordon), Robin, Raven, Starfire, Slade, Madame Rouge, Catra, Adora, etc

[@IIIISai]

Lol

[@FormalFilmsProductions]

Lol

[@ededdneddy18]

TMNT 2012 is the goat & Leo

[@ashhabimran239]

Fr

[@ForrestFox626]

Sure

[@pepitopacquiao]

I think this show was underrated at the time because, many people, at the time, were talking about adventure time, gravity falls, rick and morty, gumball, star vs the forces of evil, regular show, etc.

[@joshmullins3044]

This show literally made my childhood, so I have a lot of love for it. With that said, I’m willing to admit that by season 5 the show took a dip in quality compared to its early days. It just felt like a convoluted version of what it originally was.

[@LeopardPizzapizza-cg6bs]

30:09-30:46 lmao brother numbers wise this is not a “downfall.” the show ratings went down because they barely aired the show, the shows story driven so new people or people who don’t keep up with the inconsistent schedule probably won’t watch much, a lot of episodes went on the nick site or got leaked in different countries and online, cable died down, the shows format and title changed, and the last season aired on a difference channel. Despite all of that the show still basically got a million views per episode only dipping to like 900k lmao. Besides from the show itself it stayed relevant having a massively popular mobile game tmnt legends, stayed consistent numbers wise on TikTok and yt, became one of the most popular animated kids shows on Netflix, and the new tmnt channel has a video of 2012 gaining 50 million views 💀 for the actual show quality part u just continue to repeat arguments that u never back up the video and have no objectivity but how are the main characters flanderised? Showing a part of raph angry isn’t enough especially when in the arc and season ur showing raph gets the most character he’s ever had. Also how is the tone inconsistent. Is adventure time and gravity falls inconsistent?

[@spinballproduction9678]

I agree with this comment. Another thing to bring is that the show didn’t get cancelled it ended. I’m sure it could have went for 6 or 7 seasons but they just wanted to stop at 5 and originally wanted 4. Him saying that it didn’t get more because of “seasonal rot” is incorrect. I think I kind’ve understand the flanderization part. After season 1 (my favorite season) a lot of episodes are spent repeating development for the turtles. Like for example season 4 episode 18 where Raph’s whole deal in that episode feels like it’s been taken care of of 3 or 4 times at this point. It’d be great for season 1 but it’s just not very engaging to me at season 4. Though in this case it’s better to say that some of the characters lack development not that they’re being flanderised. Also yeah I never really get the inconsistent tone critique a lot of the time. I don’t see why a show can’t be sometimes serious and sometimes funny. 2003 always gets characterized as the dark one but that show has comedic moments even in some of it’s dark and intense moments. I didn’t even get his complaint with the filler episodes as 2003 has a lot of filler or at least episodes that are less important than others.

[@ayyale_]

The show had many cancelled plans wdym look it up😂

[@spinballproduction9678]

@@ayyale_ i’ve tried searching and can’t find anything for plans for future seasons besides fanon stuff.

[@BenjaminBox-e5o]

R.i.p 😭🙏

[@AskAir]

WHO'S YOUR FAVORITE TURTLE? 🐢👇

[@jackhurston667]

Leonardo!

[@michelangelosplinterson]

Mikey 🟠🟠

[@log111-nb7me]

I love Raphy

[@TheRealAlienX]

I loved Donnie 🟪💜

[@TheTrumpNation]

Raphael

[@jaynyethatmemeguy9384]

Something i want to mention is how much this show is milked on the Official Tmnt KZbin channel, to the literal point that clips from thw show are daily uploaded on it

[@Dumbo09]

Fr, any other iteration of the franchise is basically ignored on the channel that you would genuinely be surprised when they post something from rise or 87, I don’t think I ever seen them ever post 1 03 clip😭

[@jaynyethatmemeguy9384]

@@Dumbo09 like fr When they did the 40th anniversary shorts they left out a lot of iterations of the brothers They left out the 90s Trilogy, 07 movie, IDW comics (I think), and the Bay Movies (I don't blame them lol)

[@Dumbo09]

@@jaynyethatmemeguy9384 Honestly they basically ignore any movie adaptation of the turtles which frankly makes me sad it’s like there not even part of tmnt history even with there varying range of quality😞

[@EisaAkhtar-p4h]

That’s because it’s the best version.

[@Dumbo09]

@@EisaAkhtar-p4h it’s might be the best version to you personally (which is completely fine) but not so much to many others as we all have different preferences on what versions we enjoy.

[@ashesGeek]

Ok, it's a good review, but a time for quite a number of disagreements: 1. While 2012 Casey becomes obnoxious and useless in the last seasons, but I'd say him having explosives, electric glove and overall is much more crafty than 03 series. If it wasn't for tiresome love triangle and being second comic relief he would've been the best version of Casey out there. I still enjoy him than 2003 one to be honest. 2. Disagree, I'd say 2012 Triceratons are not only much more dangerous than 03 ones but they also seem much smarter. I mean, despite all setbacks they still completed their mission while 2003 Triceratons were easily sabotaged by a bunch of rebels which made Zanramon look stupid. Also, David Tennant is the best Fugitoid ever, no debate, 2003 Fugitoid got nothing on him. 3. Nah, 2012 Bebop, Rocksteady, Renet and Savanti Romero are literally the best versions of these characters in the franchise. At least, they were actually presented as characters instead of cheap comic reliefs. 4. idk, having Turtles deal with magic and ancient stuff is awesome, it's just season 5 of 2003 series that screwed that topic with Turtles turning into dragons and the show relying too much on Shredder instead of creating original villian(which is why 2003 series screwed up Shredder the moment they revealed the first time to be an Utrom) Which is why I'd say 2012 Shredder is overall much better than 2003 one. No amount of abs on the armor or forced voice acting from Scottie Ray wouldn't save Shredder from being an edgy boring wooden plank, 2012 Shredder was just much more interesting to watch and unlike C'hrell he actually fought, a lot, and won most of the battles instead of being defeated by water tower or delusional Triceraton.

[@AskAir]

@@ashesGeek Wow, many great points here! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment!

[@ArcTrooperRod-269]

​@@AskAirnone of those were good, he is just a blind fanboy of this show who refuses to take any criticism You can tell because all of his arguments can be summarized in *THE ONE I LIKE IS BETTER THAN THE ONE THAT YOU LIKE*, which is honestly pathethic

[@ArcTrooperRod-269]

Why do you hate so much TMNT 2003? The inmende flaws of the 2012 series are not his fault 🤐

[@iraford5788]

​@@ArcTrooperRod-269Just because you disagree with his point doesn't make him a blind fanboy.

[@ArcTrooperRod-269]

@@iraford5788 in the moment you insult SCOTTIE RAY'S PERFORMANCE, that's when you cross the line That's like saying Mark Hamill's joker sucks ONLY BECAUSE your favorite is Joaquín Phoenix

[@latviandragon2718]

cockroach terminator, was pretty good

[@endamcnabola]

I honestly despise how they practically used the Season 3's Farmhouse arc and Season 4's Space arc to simply prolong the Saving Karai arc, that's been happening since Season 2.

[@IIIISai]

Only issue is donnies unresolved love, raphs anger control, mikeys focus, S tier otherwise

[@zeospark9715]

One thing I was disappointed they never did was having Donnie cure Timothy. Like he was already able to make Retromutagen and kept saying how he was going to cure Timothy, but he never did. It's baffling since Donnie keeps him in his room/lab in a constant frozen state so I don't know how he'd forget.

[@unripetheberrby6283]

Hey! I once watched another guys review if the show a couple years ago, and you said the same thing as him about the 'irony' of the theme song, pretty much the Same sentences(that's why it came back to me) lol! ...

[@yapyapthedestroyer2562]

My favorite tmnt era and the one I grew up with. Never watched tales or whatever was going on for its final season, but did love the show and especially the death of shredder.

[@EisaAkhtar-p4h]

You should definitely watch Tales.

[@yapyapthedestroyer2562]

@@EisaAkhtar-p4h I’ll check it out

[@franciso-y3241]

The Miyamoto usagi trilogy, turtle origins and mutant apocalypse were the highlights of season 5

[@shanecorcoran2542]

really great video! I think you made a lot of great points even if I don’t really agree with some of them. Some of them I think just come down to personal preference, or at least how I see it. The main one for me is your issue with the farmhouse arc. To me, I thought eight episodes was fine as it came as a breather after the bombshell that was The Invasion. I think we needed to see the characters take a step back and regroup. Admittedly, some of the episodes weren’t good (Bigfoot and Frogs mainly), but Vision Quest honestly makes it all worth it, that episode is so damn good. For me, it was actually the space arc that dragged on way too long and was the only time as a kid (until the monsters arc in Season 5) where I felt super uninvested in the show. Luckily I think the Super Shredder arc is one of the best the show has to offer, and was just so insane to watch live. Again, great video man

[@TheTrumpNation]

I miss my childhood 🔵🔴🟣🟠

[@bowserbreaker2515]

The 2012 TMNT show is my favorite version of the turtles. I love it so much. And I don't think it ever went downhill. It had a great ending that I loved. Sure, some episodes were pretty bad, but overall, it was really good. But if it lasted longer, it would've gotten bad.

[@Abner-gu3ve]

I won’t lie to you this review didn’t hit for me for many reasons

[@InfinityandBeyondEdd]

tell us

[@Abner-gu3ve]

@@InfinityandBeyondEdd from what I got he didn’t try going into the review of this show with an open mind, feel free to express your opinions yeah but he came across as way too nitpicky for me, at least give the benefit of the doubt. Also if I ain’t mistaken he said some episodes was too slow or boring for him to neither watching so that already makes his review fall flat for me. Regardless of how boring or bad a show is to you, if you wanna give a full legitimate review of a show, watch the whole damn thing so you can catch all the details. How tf am I supposed to take this review seriously if he ain’t bother watching the entire thing. Lastly he’s judging this show for things the 2003 series did, 2003 and 2012 TMNT were created with different objectives, the former was made to be a mostly comic accurate tv depiction of the Mirage comics. The 2012 series is meant to celebrate many various adaptations of TMNT that came before it by adapting their lore and characters into its show with a new reimagining. He’s basically criticizing the show for being what it isn’t meant to be

[@InfinityandBeyondEdd]

I highly agree

[@alexanderthegreat-mx5zu]

​@@Abner-gu3veYou tuber moment,man.

[@LegendXD00]

So then you’re mad because he doesn’t like what do

[@ayyale_]

Honestly, I feel like the first 3 seasons were good and there still nostalgic to this day I don’t know if it’s just me but the animation had a really rough change compared to season 1 it’s no biggie though.Season 4 was alright the ending was great the space saga is cool and the whole super shredder story is amazing, but season 5 wasn’t really necessary it’s not bad but it’s just not really necessary the finale is alright I wish they could have brought the 2003 turtles in but they didn’t overall the show did good but its downfall sorta affected the toy sales and people not being interested in it anymore

[@ashhabimran239]

Disagree with the series having a "downfall". Season 5 may not have been my favourite, and yeah the show isn't perfect overall, but I'd hardly call it a downfall or even a seasonal rot considering its 5 year run. It, along with TMNT03, still remains one of the most popular and beloved iterations of the franchise

[@kidmods]

This show never had a downfall 😂

[@cinderefell1399]

I rewatched it recently. The show was great. Honestly, nearly perfect and hit all the best moments. The worst part-- everyone brings it up --is Donatello. Just take out all of that. Or, ya know, write a relationship better. Because I don't mind good written relationships. That said, one is a turtle and the other is a human. So, maybe relationship stuff with Casey or someone else.

[@MatteoBartholin-zq9ih]

Put the fries in the bag

[@joy4themightydonutchainsaw620]

Literally no downfall a bunch of great episodes each season

[@horizon8618]

Season 3 is the best season in the 2012 great storying telling fights and development for the characters as they return to New York

[@LovethedemonWolf2.0]

2012 version was ok but the 2003 verson will always be the best to me yes i wacted both in full

[@saiyan4414]

also April was voiced by May Whitman who voiced Katara in avatar.

[@cam-edy1294]

More like the downfall of ask air

[@LoneDawg-tg5kf]

Growing up donnie was my favorite turtle

[@Darki3dumb]

Damn sad to know there was a downfall to my childhood show

[@EisaAkhtar-p4h]

There wasn’t, it gets better each season. This guys points are terrible and don’t make sense.

[@LegendXD00]

@Eisa You are in every thread hating this guy simply because he criticized something you worship. It’s not that deep

[@Darki3dumb]

@@LegendXD00yea it’s not that deep It’s a 12 year old show

[@jamestolbert1856]

17:52 with David Tennant, he’s basically Doctor Who

[@vinkennest3274]

Hey, ill have you know that the pizza episode is amazing instead of the season 3 filler

[@supermariofan6547]

No such thing as a 2012 tmnt downfall🗣️

[@chesterfaust754]

It makes sense that donnie to have a crush on April because first she was the first human he seen and he is a nerd and some nerds in others projects have crush on a beautiful girl this is nothing new and he is beefing with Casey and is the cool kid of course there would be nerd vs cool kid in a kid show

[@entertainmentpowerfuchs5744]

Most Nickelodeon shows have 0 plotlines. This show had in the later seasons to many plotlines.

[@micheallynch-fk1iv]

TMNT 2012 Never Had A Bad Episode In My Opinion

[@ForrestFox626]

😂

[@jakebailey5834]

I Grew up on both TMNT 2003 Series and TMNT 2012 Series.

[@AskAir]

Me too!

[@ArcTrooperRod-269]

Seriously, did you even like stuff? Because most of the time I just see you complaining about Nitpicks?

[@tanishamuntslag6369]

Donnie's obsession with April made me cringe every time

[@-mjthecatdogfan-]

Idk why but I feel like Donatello would always be the tallest but younger than Leonardo and Raphael

[@godzillalegendary4200]

Me and my brother grew up with 2012 Ninja turtles

[@gimmeyourrights8292]

TMNT 012 was golden.

[@-mjthecatdogfan-]

I think it's perfect although I was born in 2013 so obviously it was still airing so it's my in 2013 so I watched it on Nick for a very long time

[@Iliketurtles1984]

Season 5 intro gotta be my favorite ngl

[@cro-magnoncarol4017]

TMNT 2012 is overrated... Fight me!

[@casanovawickens589]

So is 03 because yall 🍆 🚲 fans!

[@ZPaul_]

There wasn’t really a downfall, the show just became mid. It has its flaws but they weren’t enough to completely ruin it

[@EisaAkhtar-p4h]

It got better each season.

[@pattymelt5825]

What are you on about? This show was amazing. By far my favorite version of the tmnt

[@clavisolemgbe4124]

I love this show ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@matthewphillipsbetts8470]

I kind of liked kavaxas since he did give me vibes of onaga from mortal kombat games

[@erikbihari3625]

Why animation critics diss filler? Their there for fun diversions and character development(not mutually exclusive), while today's shows are lucky to make it past 10 episodes! Olds we're 13 or 26!

[@Valio-wf2ox]

why did tmnt 2012 end like it has a lot of potential

[@Chriso22]

Bruh what downfall lmao it was good all the way till the end

[@AskAir]

@@Chriso22 I explain in the video by the end!

[@caidenthecat]

W vid

[@AskAir]

@@caidenthecat Thank you!

[@KingTrap-g1o]

This shit was good yall complain to much the 2003 turtles was lame af to me tmnt 2012 more charters better turtles more real more dominant shredder and the first real good splinter and the story perfect they got mutated amd grew up and spliter raised them and the backstory spliter stole spliter daughter is amazing yall complain SpongeBob was bad ever season 1-3 yall say nickelodeon fell off after drake and josh yall say sam and cat bad all yall do is complain for nun

[@cyrutae]

Im blocking this channel

[@yourpookiescrapmetal]

real

[@FGGAMER7899]

I remeber my kindergarten let me watch this and tmnt team up

[@Brocat935]

Up 19:57

[@ArcTrooperRod-269]

At this point I wouldn't be surprised if you make video ranting on G.I. Joe Renegades because Coba Commande doesn't scream COBRA every 2 seconds Nostalgia Faging can br a very blindfully weapon

[@marknagorski1686]

Personaly, i like most of the show. Like take Shredder here, this is possibly the best version.

[@Vilgax00]

Tmnt 2003 ver is way better.

[@michelangelosplinterson]

Nice vid mate! Booyakasha! 🟠

[@AskAir]

It's actually Cowabunga Mikey

[@InfinityandBeyondEdd]

why did you make this half of your points are “this sucks, 2003 did this better” like i respect your opinion but pls take your nostalgia goggles off

[@Madboygamer.]

the other 2 shows dont do anything better 2003 is the only tmnt show to better than 2012 so thats all he has to work with for examples

[@InfinityandBeyondEdd]

I just want him to take his nostalgia goggles off and watch the show with a open mindset

[@Madboygamer.]

@@InfinityandBeyondEdd well he has to put them on before he can take them off

[@casanovawickens589]

2003 did this 2003 did that is really all he said 😂😂

[@anthonygarcia8749]

The muh "nOsTalGiA" card can be used for 2012 as well now lmao

[@charlesthomas2221]

Okay i do understand sure the later seasons may have got boring but for me I honestly didn't really care how bad the seasons got or how bad the characters are the 2012 Ninja turtle show is my childhood it was my introduction to the entire franchise if it wasn't for this show I would have become a Ninja turtle fan I love all five seasons yes all five I really did love all of them equally especially season 5 I don't know why I like that season so much but I do but I really do love all the seasons and I love this show and if someone talks bad about it I will understand completely but the show was my childhood I love this show I love the 2012 Ninja turtles and I love love being a turtle fan 💙❤️🧡💜

[@erikbihari3625]

Can see your points, not agree with everything, but you explained them understandably. How come turtles and ben 10 fans are more civil and smart than sonic(except the game apologist)?

[@tfordham13]

The og crossover was way better than 03s crossover

[@user-bz2vx3zo1t]

Loved this video

[@sneakydeechey7210]

No mention of blast from the past. Very disappointed.

[@ProbablySoon-pv6ee]

@@sneakydeechey7210 glaze

[@sneakydeechey7210]

@@ProbablySoon-pv6ee how is this glazing?

[@ProbablySoon-pv6ee]

@@sneakydeechey7210 all you do is glaze ask ajr

[@DisneyFan2008]

How is it a downfall I love TMNT 2012 don't be disrespecting the greatest show ever man how dare you

[@cartoon-freak13]

God the Downfall of everything with you people.

[@rayuchiha6233]

Oh nah, this review is bad he is glad that Jason Biggs was removed from the show? Nah, he was the best Leonardo voice for this series.

[@ayyale_]

For real 😂

[@sneakydeechey7210]

It’s only because of the cancel culture sht even though he said he’s not for it

[@mastermgt1201]

He favours 2003 way too much

[@Maswartz226]

Honestly my biggest issue with this series is Donnie's obsession with April. It could have been a great story where Splinter saw one of his sons becoming the crazed stalker like Shredder was but nope, they treat it as a joke.

[@JamesHowlett-qy3yq]

@@Maswartz226 come on man. Whats so serious about it?it was a joke from the beginning a running gag

[@Scrimmers]

@@JamesHowlett-qy3yq Because it ended up harming 3 different characters. Donnie for nearly 3 seasons straight was crushing over April to an inappropriate level to the point he would stalk her and memorize her exact coordinates. Now it's not like it's this disgusting vile thing that Donnie ended gaining a crush on April, he's a teenage boy who's been isolated from the entire world his whole life so it makes sense that he would gain a crush on the first girl he meets.If this was just simple crush like "she's so pretty:)" kinda like how it was with Mikey in 90's movies this would be okay, but it's not as I just explained earlier. April on the other hand is just a mess of character in this show. The writers couldn't really decided how they wanted her to respond to Donnie's crush, sometimes she appear's uncomfortable with Donnie's obsession with her but doesn't wanna tell cause she doesn't want to hurt his feelings (this being shown in the season 2 finale), but other times she appears fine with it and likes it (the most notorious example of this being the shitfest that was a foot to big).Not to mention she has no other significant bonds with the turtles besides Donnie because the writers were to busy playing the world's most annoying game of "will they won't they" with Donnie, April,and Casey. The two never get proper closure as she just unexpectedly kisses Donnie at the end of a foot too big and they LITERALLY never address this ever again. Now Casey is quite literally a nothing burger in this show. Yeah he's a fun and silly guy but that's as far as he goes.Not even five episodes after his appearance he gets dragged into a love triangle because Donnie spots Casey and April hanging out a PARK of all places and he decides that Casey is a threat to him and April's relationship despite the fact he had no context at all who he is to April. We never get any depth to him, hell we couldn't even at least have an episode where we meet the supposed little sister he cares so much about. He just stays a joke character for the entire show with little complexity whatsoever. This subplot never gained any proper conclusion and it clearly failed at being a joke cause speak to any 2012 fan today and they'll tell you about how damn annoying it was.

[@JamesHowlett-qy3yq]

@@Scrimmers because it was never a subplot. It was a running joke. You just took it seriously

[@Scrimmers]

@@JamesHowlett-qy3yq As I mentioned before if it was like something simple like it was in the 90's movies I wouldn't care but since they dragged out the joke to even get it's own episodes focused on it the whole thing just becomes annoying.The very least they could've done was give it a proper conclusion if they wanted to can it.

[@JamesHowlett-qy3yq]

@@Scrimmers then it wouldn’t be a running joke

[@gavinsiville9969]

Donatello constantly trying to get with April to me is kinda annoying and creepy.

[@JamesHowlett-qy3yq]

From his perspective,its just an innocent love. Its not his fault that he is an humanoid turtle

[@Zap_Master99]

Another reason why I prefer the 2003 version there are like treated like work friends

[@JamesHowlett-qy3yq]

@@Zap_Master99 you know they have to make it different somehow. In fact April Didn't really play a big part in 2003 version,it was rather casey

[@gavinsiville9969]

Still, I view April as more of a sister to the turtles

[@LittleGoblinJR]

The creators confirmed that April x Donnie was never going to be a real thing either way.

[@austinmcneil8775]

I love the 2003 and 2012 turtles.

[@jamestolbert1856]

I REALLY don’t like that this Leo is hitting on his sister, Karai. I don’t care if they’re adopted. You don’t do that to your own dad’s daughter!!

[@jamestolbert1856]

And they never confront them on this

[@chesterfaust754]

Bro Leo didn't know they are not blood related And it's a joke

[@jamestolbert1856]

@@chesterfaust754 but then he did and he still kept hitting on her

[@chesterfaust754]

@@jamestolbert1856 it's a joke and she likes him back (I think)

[@jamestolbert1856]

@@chesterfaust754 no she doesn’t and I’m sick of this joke being overused.

[@jackhurston667]

Great video man! Loved it all the way thru! 🔥

[@COELACANTHofficial]

For many years, I really thought the apocalypse arc was the final one of the series. When I was younger, I only thought the episodes that came after it were re-runs. I only recently found out that this wasn't true. I wasn't a fan of the apocalypse arc as a kid, and I still remain that way, but the final nod to Eastman and Laird would have been the perfect end to the series.

[@rickyronny4019]

What downfall? Lol. 2012 never had a legitimate downfall. Season 5 was basically just an extra season of filler. The show was meant to end after the fourth season, Nickelodeon just preferred a fifth season. Season 5’s is not bad but it has different adventures rather than having an ongoing narrative. That’s why it’s called “Tales of the TMNT”

[@ghostthug4846]

Cool never knew that

[@rickyronny4019]

@@ghostthug4846 yeah that’s why season 5 doesn’t have any narrative continuity of the past seasons

[@EisaAkhtar-p4h]

Completely agree with you, this is what I have also been saying.

[@ForrestFox626]

I thought season 4 was kind of overrated

[@nottheprettybestfriend885]

Coming back from your latest video I should’ve know it was you 🤦‍♀️ I was fine with this video for the most part but you definitely had some questionable takes…

[@NoCreepersPeepers]

The downfall between the tmnt 2012 is unbelievable. Noting bad happened to it.

[@Arshia258]

2012 didn’t have a proper ending and why did they kill splinter after they brought him back just why? Also it seems that their skills never improve they struggle in fights a lot even in the last season

[@xoof24]

Skills didn't improve? Nah, they did for sure. They went from struggling with Bradford and xever in their human forms. To take them down in their mutant forms. And even taking down razar. And for other proof, they were nearly killed by the shredder. I'm his normal form, but then later, they had the ability to fight super shredder.

[@LegendXD00]

Agreed their skills were super inconsistent and beholden to the plot

[@ahaha272]

I love season 1 and 2 but after s3 it becomes a bit all over the place, I especially hate the farmhouse arc not just bc it's slow and has a lot of filler, but also bc it contradicts the whole time passes faster in dimension X thing. 3 months is decades in dimension X yet they go back to New York and still haven't produced enough mutagen‼️ Also city at war was so disappointing

[@ayyale_]

Lowkey the animation quality after season 1 changes in a bad way😂

[@rickyronny4019]

@@ayyale_that is objectively wrong. This show gets much better animation over the seasons