The Downward Spiral of South Africa

In this video, I talk about the history as well as the present situation of South Africa, especially in the context of the apartheid regime and the demographic situation of the country.
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00:00 - Introduction
05:45 - The Tribes of South Africa
17:12 - East Germany in South Africa
22:41 - The Disillusionment
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[@MustacheCashStash125]

South Africa’s story is like finally moving out your parent’s house that you hate, but then you become homeless afterwards

[@stevem815]

It's like the rich people from the other side of town heard your parents were asses so they came and set fire to your house, then walked away patting each other on the back and left you standing on the front lawn with your sister.

[@redlionesv]

@@stevem815better said

[@redlionesv]

Well said

[@garrymacphee8328]

No, South Africa's story is more like you gave your house to a group that are clueless about maintaining a house.

[@siroswaldfortitude5346]

spot on

[@Ultizer]

It's been 30 years since apartheid ended and black people were handed a wealthy country. No excuses anymore.

[@richardque4952]

Same happen all over africa.

[@sharonanthonique1255]

Ignorance

[@Malendor]

​@@sharonanthonique1255truth hurts

[@thatoneguy6687]

South Africa wasn’t wealthy only the white minority were rich and lived in big cities meanwhile the black majority still lived in poverty, this system was never sustainable and was doomed to collapse

[@Malendor]

@@thatoneguy6687 that explains why they can't fix the roads, the waterlines or the power lines. Because rich Whites absconded to the magical kingdom of cope with all their money. Strangely, all of the poor oppressed Blacks can't ever seem to generate wealth on their own, even with an entire government behind them.

[@robertthomson1587]

I was in Johannesburg last year: no street lights, no traffic lights, intermittent electricity, caged into the accommodation. I couldn't wait to get home. South Africa is a failed state.

[@MrWolfstar8]

Sounds like Detroit.

[@julieclonan2427]

London, Rotherham

[@kek3908]

Correct.

[@kek3908]

@@julieclonan2427 Non white cities tend to be like that.

[@julieclonan2427]

@@kek3908 Have you been to Rotherham, Birmingham, London and a few other places in The UK?

[@Mayhamsdead]

South Africa: >"fuck the white farmers!" > starves Also South Africa: >"How could this be happening?!" Many such cases.

[@ESPLTD322]

Zimbabwe too. Haiti said they “don’t need no w man help” and look at them

[@california816]

@@ESPLTD322 Oh well.

[@ESPLTD322]

Exactly idk what the US’ obsession is with trying to help people who refuse to help themselves

[@robinstuyvesant7187]

@@ESPLTD322 Zimbabwe ... Zero Income Mainly because All British Workers Emigrated (not my acronym)

[@ESPLTD322]

@@robinstuyvesant7187 that’s a good one actually lmao

[@GenericUsername1388]

As a South African it sucks how bad our country has gotten but to most of us in the younger generation it's all we've known. That's why it was so surreal the first time i went to Europe and discovered working infrastructure and public transport 😂

[@bafanamahlatse1923]

The state was pretty functional up until Zuma and ramaphosa took over .

[@Perrirodan1]

Sorry tor your loss, your countrymen were too idealistic, you should have moved the population in the West of the country to make a majority white country.

[@bafanamahlatse1923]

@@Perrirodan1 whites are not a majority anywaywhere.in the western side of the country whites r only around 12 percent

[@jirislavicek9954]

Europe is going the South African way. You can thank Western "liberals" 🙈

[@DeadSabbath806]

Jews did it

[@incurableromantic4006]

Don't notice the pattern. Don't notice the pattern. Don't notice the pattern. Don't notice the pattern. . . . . . . . .

[@Azrael777_]

what pattern?

[@ziopera9601]

​@@Azrael777_ that's the spirit!

[@JesusMartinez-fy3yf]

Terry A. Davis was right about black peepo

[@MyBelch]

@@JesusMartinez-fy3yf So was Rudyard Kipling.

[@earth9531]

Ah but the great noticing is happening. Soon it will break out of the digital realm and into the real world.

[@henzoko5946]

The fact that SA was better under apartheid says a lot.

[@Hackenschmidt.]

Just more proof, blacks can't govern

[@hellcocktimes154]

it wasnt, it was shit before, it is shit now.

[@ThyCorylus]

Go further back. Life was relatively easy for the Bantu tribes pre-colonisation. Abundant resources, space and a hot climate. Tribal conflict was the major threat and even that isn't unique to Southern Africa, us Europeans found ways to slaughter one another. It was the introduction of European industry, agriculture and commerce that complicated life for the African.

[@SpencerCourtis]

Why are people from the failed ANC governed provinces fleeing to the Western Cape....?

[@reggie24]

Maybe for you white folks

[@johnkeviljr9625]

South Africa is moving rapidly to Haiti status. Hmmm.

[@dantownsend4246]

Haiti received it independence from France 200 years ago. How’s that going ?

[@belvedere92]

France and the USA and all white-run countries ganged up against the slaves of Haiti (who freed themselves from slavery) to show others it is a bad idea to free yourself from slavery. They have punished Haiti from around 1800, and now they have returned to that idea. Whites never want a level playing field, they are always insisting on special terms. And now SA spoke up against genocide by Israel and some will be too happy to drag SA in the mud for that.

[@machovalkarie7896]

@@dantownsend4246france wanted to bring back slavery to Haiti

[@Shinobubu]

@@dantownsend4246 Haiti was fucked by the French , Americans , Canadians, Israelis, Just about everyone.. The only one case where other countries went out of their way to fuck Haiti for no reason at all.

[@acappella1983]

Stop lying

[@galath9242]

Watch and learn Western Europe. This is your future

[@vorpalinferno9711]

Also UK.

[@yortsemloh1156]

There is a truth here no one can admit without being called racist. That doesn’t make it any less true.

[@SouthernFarmingTV]

With a Hard R...

[@chrisperrins8082]

It’s not racist to take note that every black run nation, state or council is a failure.

[@jimhenson7952]

I don’t get it

[@mikebryant614]

The reality is, it's also a truth that can't be argued against by any metric anyone , no matter how motivated , can produce.It's absolute FACT that S.A. is worse off now, in every conceivable way than it was under Apartheid. Now I'm not saying Apartheid was good, or even acceptable , but what i AM saying is the " solution" to it has in every way,been WORSE than it was itself.

[@stevensamuels4041]

The problem is that Migration was going on so fast, maybe uf you teach 3 Generations of Africans modetn Technology thery will lernen adapt. But dont put 10 Millionen primitive people to modern Country

[@SopwithTheCamel]

Tolerance of corruption is fatal. Refusing to recognise that corruption is stupid. The ANC is corrupt.

[@chrishiggins7463]

I lived in South Africa on the 1970's. The biggest fear of the black people of South Africa after aparthied ended, was what their own people where about to do to this country. They had a good reason to be fearsome of their own! The AMC have destroyed the economy of South Africa.

[@JB-yb4wn]

AMC was a car company, ANC are the corrupt grifters I think you meant.

[@danguee1]

"The biggest fear of the black people of South Africa after apartheid ended, was what their own people were about to do to this country". What nonsense! If that were the case, why did they vote for the ANC in droves - repeatedly.....?

[@Jedi_Judo19]

I hate living here. There's no jobs, no electricity, and no safety. Crime, corruption and unemployment have made this country unlivable.

[@sylviamaresca8852]

Head to the border with Mexico.

[@Jedi_Judo19]

@@sylviamaresca8852 Wish I could. Gonna pull a Houdini soon :)

[@anthonymanderson7671]

It's so bizzare that some people in my country think it's developed.

[@ffarmchicken]

Move to North Dakota. Lots of good South Africans here already.

[@Jedi_Judo19]

@@ffarmchicken Wish I could but it's basically impossible to get into the USA without a sponsored work VISA, or getting a greencard lottery.

[@moisetalbert2123]

I'm a South African I know it only gets worse as of now we havent had electricity for the past 18 hrs and I'm afraid one day the electricity will never come back

[@cattysplat]

Blackouts are your culture now.

[@georgeopiyo609]

In the self same South Africa we were once taught in schools had enough electricity to power the whole sub-saharan Africa 😭⁉️

[@samuelseymour7850]

Remember Dr Ian McRae, CEO of Eskom, when he was in charge, South Africa could have supplied the whole of Southern Africa with electricity, Thabo Mbeki replaced him with a political appointees, hence the mess today

[@MANDREW33]

The Water supply is the next catastrophe.

[@JB-yb4wn]

Just Shocking!

[@elkpants1280]

Why does anyone expect people who have never invented the wheel to have the capacity to run a modern country?

[@harold6863]

No one ever told you they built Stonehenge😂

[@firstcomment749]

Hair raising that the world is approaching the uncharted waters of AI - with SA politicians finding it difficult to comprehend the 2nd industrial revolution, basic economics or functional state administration.

[@robinstuyvesant7187]

@@harold6863 Stonehenge is wheel shaped. Of course they had wheels.

[@lutherheggs]

@@harold6863 And the Golden Gate Bridge. We stole it and brought it over on the Mayflower.

[@longtabsigo]

Or dig a water well…..

[@JamesJames-yd2bo]

The old expression "Made your bed now lie in it" has never been more apt

[@dncarac]

Or as Kelly Bundy said, "You wet your bed, now lie in it."

[@EarthForces]

Time to end the lie of the "Rainbow nation." Go for meritocracy and oust the ANC.

[@rainyvideos3684]

Dude have you looked at countries where black's have ruled themselves? Ethiopia: Shit. Zimbabwe: Took all the land from their most productive members of society (white people) and proceeded to run themselves into the ground. Haiti: Killed all the white people, ran themselves into the ground, tried to invade their neighbor to boost themselves up. Neighbors kicked them out and has remained shit ever since. Sure you may have some like Bostwana that do well. But that's not the rule. The ANC is not being ousted, they are there to stay and they will eventually go after the white population that is in South Africa.

[@alexpotts6520]

I mean, surely the notion of a rainbow nation isn't the problem, it's the corruption, inequality, crime etc.

[@EarthForces]

@alexpotts6520 Of course, I just decisively used the term because the corrupt elements in that country still tout that notion while not exercising actual diversity of thought coupled with competency in governance. Also, I am willing to state that supremacist movements on any side in SA have been so detrimental as of late.

[@bigboyman5743]

​@@rainyvideos3684ethiopia is growing economically well, even despite having had a major conflict, they host the headquarters of the african union and they're a stable compared to its neighbours; haiti's failure had its origins after independence and not because they killed white people, in fact they spared polish people because they helped them with the independence, but rather because france demanded haiti to pay a huge sum of money for the slave owners or risk invasion and that sum of money wasn't paid off fully until 1946, as well as that haiti was sanctioned and isolated, because western powers didn't like the idea of a black republic being the first country to abolish slavery; haiti has also been occupied by the US in the early 20th century which also affected their economy and political situation, because after that, they've gotten coups, assassinations and other disasters, it didn't help that they also haven't recovered from the 2010 earthquake; there are other succesful sub saharan countries like botswana, namibia, ghana, kenya, rwanda, tanzania, gabon; which are more stable compared to south afrca

[@pretty7995]

@@alexpotts6520 Stop spreading your progressive liberal ideology it’s failed everywhere.

[@thomaslanders2073]

Everyone in the comments who are laughing at South Africa should be aware that South Africa is being used as the template for the future of the entire Western world. It has already begun in the major cities of America and Western Europe...

[@tomorrowneverdies567]

And not only in the cities. But I wonder why noone is doing anything against it in this "Western world". Everyone seems to me to be hiding from everyone else. Not even here on the internet do we dare to write what exactly we believe. KZbin's censorship has also contributed to this unfortunately I must say.

[@useodyseeorbitchute9450]

​@@tomorrowneverdies567 Really? At least online, even on yt I see growing number of people while who while careful with wording, were able to name the problem rather bluntly. My most shocking moment when last month normally left leaning TLDR news while discussing permanent misfortunes of one particular Caribbean island, had effectively comment section filled with comments related to estimates of local average IQ. I'd say that we're slowly seeing the shift.

[@tomorrowneverdies567]

@@useodyseeorbitchute9450 Well, I have seen such comment sections since 2016 (when I myself was not aware of the thing(s) I am aware now - which I will not name here because my comment will be removed again, like my very previous comment here was). But I can tell you that my/this account has been shadow banned by KZbin since March 2022, when I used the opposite word than the word "beautiful" quite a few times, without being insulting and/or harmful to anyone at any point, and since then if my comments do not receive at least one like within 10s, they are removed. Which is why I must immediately like all my comments. Needless to say about other platforms, such as Twitter, which froze my account twice in Aug-Oct 2020, Facebook which blocked me from commenting for 10 days, for 8 times, and always for the above reason. So I use KZbin only because it is the least intolerant platform basically, where I can post comments like these, and communicate with others somehow. I also abandoned Bitchute because I found 80-90% of the content there just wrong, mistaken, and misleading, although I partially understand why this is like that, and I myself have very often in the past believed in things that were proven to be wrong. I am greek by the way.

[@useodyseeorbitchute9450]

​@@tomorrowneverdies567 I have seen even wilder comment section but that was the first time where under a mainstream, English language channel it was effectively looking like the truth completely derailed the narrative. Oddly, I was quite careful with wording (or maybe I come from a country that they don't care as under the same topic I was allowed to talk about laptop of prodigal son of one of US president, while Americans were not) but I was never banned here. It's a bit tricky with alt tech as one hand they have even more low quality content and poor algorithm, while on the other ex Jolly Heretic place there stuff that may be too contentious for yt. Or one could finf there well researched Am Ren or Alt Hype. Are you familiar with those?

[@belstar1128]

south Africa is too different because the country always had a lot of black people and i noticed the people in south Africa are different than in other parts of Africa. i wont get in detail about that

[@Atreid3s]

Apartheid was a wall that protected civilization on both sides in South Africa.

[@7th_CAV_Trooper]

I read the main purpose was to prevent the two major tribes from warring with each other.

[@arlenespencer5850]

​@@7th_CAV_Trooperregardless of tribes blacks always just attack & kill each other. I've seen that since a child. 62yrs later nothing has changed.

[@33Donner77]

The same was said of segregation in America, believe it or not. The wealthy ruling southern Whites wanted to keep the poor Whites and Blacks from confronting each other.

[@contrarian8870]

Whatever you say in the comments, don't ever discuss the root cause: cognitive differences which are 60-80% genetic. Any discussion of them will make your comment vanish.

[@jandejong2430]

The elephant in the room must remain unmentioned..

[@briopalumpus8676]

😂😂😂😂 is it the iq or white supremacy question?

[@nont18411]

Then mention it. What is it?

[@anchoragealaska3104]

@@briopalumpus8676ANC and EFF racism coupled with their sub 80 IQ. Oh and btw the mythical so called White supremacy remains what it always was : a Media invented lie.

[@anchoragealaska3104]

@briopalumpus8676 ANC and EFF racism coupled with their sub 80 IQ. Oh and btw the mythical so called White supremacy remains what it always was : a Media invented lie

[@Michael_the_Drunkard]

​@@nont18411Jews

[@martychisnall]

South Africa has gone to shit since the apartheid ended

[@xanderabbey8529]

Things were going pretty well until Mbheki got ousted and later replaced by He Who Shall Not Be Named.

[@user-gz1nv6nw3q]

It was already struggling a bit, right before Apartheid ended. The entire international community imposed sanctions on South Africa.

[@ayakhasokabo8816]

In 1989 SA was being sanctioned and its economy slowed down, so we could say from 1989 that's where the downfall began.

[@danielutriabrooks477]

Apartheid SA had an unsustainable economic model, it would have fallen sooner or later, but the ANC did not help at all

[@visorij3374]

lol this is a lie, the economy was already destroyed under the apartheid government

[@ianlawrie]

As an English speaking White South African, I must commend you on a pretty accurate summation of the SA situation. Reality sometimes sucks, but there's no way of getting away from it.

[@batavia5470]

As a dutch person I welcome every Afrikaner back to their motherland even after all this time.

[@bradleynewall7541]

There mother land is South Africa... they are Africans

[@bradleynewall7541]

There mother land is South Africa

[@dundadunda552]

As a homo sapien we welcome u back to the cradle of manking

[@dickensodhiambo1233]

Exactly. It's their last chance to get out with something

[@MrBahjatt]

@@bradleynewall7541 No, it's the Netherlands. They are not 'Afrikaaners' they are Dutch settlers of Afrika.

[@mesa9724]

Slavoj Zizek asked an ANC politican what did she think about her country. She responded that even among the black population there was a nostalgia for the apartheid days.

[@kel8026]

I've heard this from locals about British rule in India and Sri Lanka....

[@Nope_handlesaretrash]

A 5,000% increase in murders and being the world's rape capital will do that to you

[@MrClockw3rk]

And why do you think that is?

[@christopher5846]

It's like how Iraq is ruled by foreign multinational companies now, yet all Iraqis miss Saddam. Same for Yugoslavia, East Germany, etc. It's really strange.

[@jdamsel8212]

​@@kel8026Sure you have

[@michaelsutton4205]

South Africa was doomed to fail since 1994 when Nelson Mandela was elected president because the ANC was filled with people who had no practical experience governing. The ANC was not filled with businessman, or administrators, or experts in the field, it was filled with poetical activists and ideologues, who suddenly took a major role in actually deciding policy and holding complex administrative roles, which they were not prepared to do. Even though Nelson Mandela is long gone, the ANC at the national level is still filled with activists rather than experts. I think this is a good explanation as to why public services have failed in the country. What South Africa needs more than ever is for the next generation of educated citizens to take the reins of government. But the ANC has done a good job of quashing them, which is why all the top top young political talent is in other parties. The sad thing is that this was more or less inevitable, Nelson Mandela had to become president in 1994 and political activist had to become the next governor. It won’t be until at least 2029 that the ANC finally loses power. Until then South Africa will continue to stagnate or backslide.

[@andrewrogers3067]

South Africa was ALWAYS doomed to fail, even if apartheid stayed with no sanctions, the black population would outbreed the whites.

[@SoteksChunkyProphet-dg7io]

The simpler answer is blacks are incapable of sustaining western civilization.

[@KingMinos316]

When people who believe all wealth is stolen rather than created take power, you can't expect them to create.

[@jacobmatthews7524]

of course when the ANC falls it will be replaced with those guys who wear the red jumpsuits whose platform includes actual gene-o-cide

[@jesseking9254]

The ANC is full of communists, not activists

[@garymalone547]

As Thomas Sowell said, poverty arises not from failure to redistribute wealth, but from failure to produce.

[@sonjadidyk-tn4cc]

I love Mr Sowell. What a man...Marvellous

[@sabrinatscha2554]

We all know exactly why things have gone downhill.

[@ffarmchicken]

You will get banned on many social media for saying why.

[@jfkst1]

Yes, it is basic science. But you must be scientifically illiterate when convenient.

[@TimSerras]

It’s not only South Africa. It’s the whole of subsaharan Africa, better known as Black Africa. Corruption, tribalism, racism, incompetence, lack of initiative, these are among other things, the main factors of the African disaster. Not one African country can compare to any European country when it comes to infraestructures, human affairs (hospitals, schools, etc.) no matter how rich the African country is (eg. Equatorial Guinea) or how poor the European country is (eg. Albania) the result is always the same. Africa is doomed because Africans do not admit their failures and rather blame colonialism, western interference or whatever comes to their minds. When I first visited South Africa in 1986, I couldn’t believe my eyes. I thought I was in some American city. Magnificent highways, Johannesburg’s city center a thriving cosmopolitan and clean tourist attraction (today it is a crime infested dirty slum), few European countries could boast what South Africa (apartheid regime) had. That was long ago. Today, under black majority rule, it is yet another black African country.

[@NatalieMartin-oy7ni]

Well said. These leaders were n Africa are incompetent and opportunistic.

[@Kalfie-yv2ni]

to be honest, SA is fast becoming a shithole. 25000 murders per year, 40% unemployment, thousands of teenage pregnancies ( below 14 years of age) rape capital of the world

[@kiuk_kiks]

You expect black Africans to get to where the Europeans got to within 30-60 years while y’all got there 1600 years after the collapse of the Roman Empire???

[@user-xu4kr6nw7o]

​@kiuk_kiks you can't turn 75IQ Africans into 130IQ Europeans. Give Africa 10,000 years they don't give the intellectual capacity of Europeans and North Asians

[@paulodendaal9670]

​@@kiuk_kiksno One just expects themto at least maintain what got given. Instead of stripping it all for scrap.😅

[@jesseking9254]

South Africa = Rhodesia 2.0

[@jackakakreanxx5587]

Still missing a name change since Rhodesia is now known as Zimbabwe, a Robert Mugabe style dictator who led the country for decades and down the shitter even more with hyperinflation while South Africa didn’t have hyperinflation to the extent of Zimbabwe and they still had more than one leader in the decades since independence. And those are the two points I can immediately think of

[@jesseking9254]

@@jackakakreanxx5587 Zimbabwe = communist occupied Rhodesia

[@thembastoep733]

I doubt things can go that bad

[@jackakakreanxx5587]

@@thembastoep733 Murphy’s law. Anything that can go wrong will go wrong and in a place as chaotic as South Africa and the world for that matter, don’t be too shocked.

[@thembastoep733]

@@jackakakreanxx5587 I am telling if people resisted apartheid the way they did, we're tolerate a dictatoriship like that of Zimbabwe, we'll fight back like there's no tomorrow I'm telling you, we're not like most people in africa who fear their governments, here we put pressure

[@skywalkerneoblade]

I am a white Afrikaaner South African. Good job on the video. I appreciate people who actually do some research instead of making kneejerk reactions. Best of luck, sir.

[@MrJeffcoley1]

TFW you protested to end Apartheid because it’s ignorant and raaaaa-cist,but then you realize it actually was a rational policy with sound justification

[@marccamp6376]

Who know 'muh racism' was actually on the right... Now lets do the Germany of the 30s :D

[@MrJeffcoley1]

@@marccamp6376 Merely pointing out that after Apartheid was abolished South Africa has entered the downward spiral of so many other African countries in the post colonial era. Exactly what Apartheid was meant to stop, and precisely what happened when it was abolished

[@jostnamane3951]

16:54 😂 Yet the Indian textbooks portray Gandhi as some anti-racist universalist.

[@hiruzenmonofuke7344]

Because Indian history books were written by gandhi faction communists/socialists who wanted to spread thier own propoganda

[@jirislavicek9954]

Yes, it always amazes me how Indians lecture westerners about racism and yet their caste system, pretty much in place till today, is based on racial discrimination and segregation.🙈 Get real guys!

[@Moonuuu]

He also hate hindus and love Islamist that's why he was against Israel too.

[@ShubhamMishrabro]

He is more known for his non violence movement. Most indians didn't even know he was in south africa. He was known for indian independence movement. And if they know about south africa they don't know he had racist views there

[@Moonuuu]

Indian see him as freedom fighters who free India from colonialism that's why same like uk see pm who is pure evil but see him as fight against another evil hitler.

[@andreyhempburn]

An Afrikaaner once told me an analogy of what South Africa is: "ZA is like a latte macchiato: a large dark lower layer, then a small white upper layer, and the chocolatte sprinkles on top are the Politicians"

[@christopher5846]

wut

[@andreyhempburn]

This is supposed to be a purely economic analogy, not a Hirarchy of any kind

[@hydoffdhagaweyne1037]

Can you believe it? Like, seriously, who'd have thought that folks who can't even handle running a freakin' company could somehow magically steer a whole dang industrial nation like South Africa? It's a disaster waiting to happen. South Africa's screwed, man.

[@Mark-gd2ti]

Look for what Malema and friends sings.... What do you expect? All white people should leave and move to Europe so Malema and friends are happier, Elon musk alone is worth more than the entire country.

[@rtmclean484]

The levels of racism on here are out of control, the fact your comment has 150 upvotes, jesus christ.

[@ALObtuse]

They trashed it? Didn’t see that coming.

[@simonbagel]

Just be thankful that SA ended its nuclear weapons program long ago. Be scary to think if they had them now. Imagine Haiti with nukes.

[@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606]

Sad to look back because SA had an incredible military and industrial capacity, it was a nation that built nukes with no help from either the Soviets or the US. Building a nuclear weapon from scratch is obviously extremely difficult. Sad that a nation with such ability has crumbled to nothing, but yes it’s good they no longer have any WMDs

[@steven3837]

As a South African, I am impressed with how much you have gotten right about our history and the different groups in the country. I appreciate it.

[@MMMORPGPVPPLAYER]

You nailed it

[@Alex-ze2ii]

Exceptionally well researched. Couldn’t believe how many of the topics he hit correctly. Almost unheard of from someone who is not South African.

[@robertpearce4316]

It's well know in America

[@Alex-ze2ii]

@@robertpearce4316 it’s not unfortunately

[@albionnika]

Last time I was this early Rhodesia was still around.

[@baronvonjo1929]

I found a old book printed in Rhodesia and I had no idea what I was looking at

[@jeremybertz796]

@@baronvonjo1929whats it called?

[@RafaquaQuetta]

Rhodesia was a baddie in my sophomore class

[@belstar1128]

@@baronvonjo1929 reminds me of my maps some of them had Rhodesia and some of them had Zimbabwe quite confusing

[@alexsmith-ob3lu]

Rhodesia is on life support thanks to the injection of Chinese currency and goods. That won’t be the case with South Africa.

[@GTX1123]

Way back in 1989 a South African friend of mine explained the situation there. He was all for ending aparteid (he is white) and predicted it would come to an end in the near future - which it did 5 yrs later. But he was far more concerned about what would replace the system based on the ideology of the political activists who would ascend to power. The tragedy is S Africa has essentially become another aparteid state but w/out the prosperity of the former state.

[@BladeTheWatcher]

"it took European civilizations centuries from dirt-floor shacks to light switches. Behind those advances stood revolutions in science, industry, religion, and social interaction. Those cultural prerequisites were invisible to many black South Africans, but they turned out to be essential." I think this sums it up perfectly, and is true to many other African and Asian countries who want to take the shortcut to wealth and power. Yeah, some post-Soviet European countries too.

[@Tusk-ruk]

Very well put indeed

[@arjund.4817]

Asian countries are not taking a "shortcut" to wealth and power. Asia was an epicenter of innovation and civilization for years, and made advancements that Europe wouldn't match until industrial times in some cases. Exactly what asian countries have become "failed states" post-colonialism? The "cultural prequisites" had always been there.

[@railyatra8879]

@@arjund.4817 also many of the problems in the Asian countries have been inherited from the so called “European civilisation”

[@12SPASTIC12]

​@@arjund.4817 Arguably countries like Burma, Pakistan and Afghanistan are part of this club.

[@halfdome4158]

​@@arjund.4817😂😂😂Utter nonsense.

[@jamieevans3666]

robert sepehr said that before europeans arrived in SA the tallest structures were built by termites

[@peekaboo1575]

Brutal.

[@marccamp6376]

Hey, easy on the bugs Wasps and ants are quite cunning architects :D

[@Threemore650]

They can see it, they can hear it and they can smell it, but when they touch it, it turns to dust.

[@peekaboo1575]

Well said.

[@user-hn7my8ow4s]

When Europeans arrived in sub-Saharan Africa black Africans had not yet invented a written language, the wheel, the sail or the plow. Europeans developed sub-Saharan Africa towards an industrial economy. Since independence, every single African country has become poorer and more socially chaotic. That is just a fact. Personally, I oppose colonialism and favor Liberty via Natural Rights, free trade and free markets.

[@longandshort6639]

South Africa is fast following the path of Zimbabwe.

[@hasinabegum1038]

Haiti

[@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606]

@@hasinabegum1038learn some African history

[@nicholisfourie8971]

Finally!! Someone who actually comments about how European society went through so much hardship to understand modern civilization, which the tribes had not and could not have been able to be easily integrated. Thank you so much for getting it.

[@KingMinos316]

There's no easy way.

[@FOLIPE]

Also they got to learn by doing instead of having modernity appear ready made on their face usually on the shape of guns brought by boats

[@zander8347]

I'm from a small eastern european country and i had relatives living there until a few years ago. I always wanted to visit but couldn't for various reasons . When i was finally able to they had to flee back to Europe after the big riots a few years ago and they think it's extremely unsafe now

[@manyulgarprsch]

Where's that country?

[@danielbruceagra9022]

At least the money you saves is still with you

[@pinkmann8399]

@@manyulgarprschprobably belarus

[@janvanaardt3773]

De Klerk is a traitor

[@user-no1nj9ji1d]

@@manyulgarprsch ukraine probably or some other failed state like Latvia or Lithuania

[@havocgr1976]

A woman from Senegal has the correct answer for Africa (and a book), and it starts with stop playing the victim.Then you build businesses, but because Africa is so socialist and bureaucratic and its almost impossible, she wants to build small business areas in countries that are excluded from that.She says 2 countries have already said yes.

[@johnm7267]

Sth Africa is not socialist. Where might I ask where is the socialism

[@yesec9]

@johnm7267 Agreed. Racist (on all sides), bureaucraric, corrupt? Absolutely. Socialist though...maybe nominally (as in they may call themselves that), but realistically there isn't much in terms of socialism, hardly any worker-owned cooperatives exist.

[@TheMysteryDriver]

Most African countries have super high debt and loan payments so they tax the crap out of everyone and businesses. That's why people don't go start businesses there. You get almost no profit.

[@gerhardvaneeden5615]

​@@johnm7267There are multiples more people on welfare than people paying tax. Sounds pretty socialist to me. They're just too useless to have enough work for everyone.

[@ffarmchicken]

We have a lot of South African farm workers in NorthDakota. I’d welcome them all to immigrate here. Lots of Afrikaans spoken in my small town.

[@kalliste23]

The only thing that guarantees huge levels of immigration into Europe is the European governments facilitating it instead of preventing it. In particular Britain is an island that could very easily have secure borders and zero net inward migration, especially in this day and age of AI and drones.

[@cattysplat]

Mass immigration has been part of British government policy for almost 3 decades now.

[@jeffbrunswick5511]

Exactly. If Russia was planning on invading Britain with a sea borne army, they sure as hell would find a way to stop them arriving. The truth is that the politicians want to grow the population, as it increases GDP and hides the fact that the UK economy has been either stagnant or contracting for the past several decades.

[@TaLeng2023]

They're shipping them in en masse. I've seen people from the UK complain that when they went out after lockdowns, the entire town has changed into POC majority, as if the gov't brought them all in when no one was looking. 🤔

[@Baron_Friedrich_von_Steuben]

I feel bad for the brits in particular, their government is pushing the immigration while the natives have no real weapons to stop it. Atleast here in the US if SHTF you can fall back on militias and all that but in Britain not so much

[@ryeguy7941]

It's the great replacement

[@rexmann1984]

Remember when SA was wealthy? Pepe remembers..

[@tiaanbasson9092]

SA use to pay like 80 cents for a dollar in the late 70's

[@christopher5846]

Before or after it collapsed?

[@guilhermesavoya2366]

You mean "remember when White people in SA were wealthy and Black people were confined to Bantustans?"

[@rexmann1984]

@@guilhermesavoya2366 now the whole country is turning into bantustans. 🤷

[@tiaanbasson9092]

@@guilhermesavoya2366 Many of the elderly black people will say they had better lives then, because they had homes and jobs, as long as they followed the rules. The crime was also a lot lower. Today many are confined to townships and squatter camps which looks like rubbish dumps. They have murder rates which rivals that of most current wars and have cases of people starving to death under ANC rules, so much for their freedoms. Only 7% of the population pays tax, while 47% of the population lives on social grants. Majority of the youth is unemployed and many will never see employment since the government made the pass requirement for grades 30% just so they can lie about education. Their fate in country now is much worse off now as before and there is much doubt whether or not they'll ever use their freedoms to improve themselves and their communities. The country is not a failed state with a terrible rating on the worlds largest financial institutions. This is what happens when people are allowed into power with no experience in economics and proper political decision making. Hell they barely scraped the surface of the bronze age when Europeans arrived by ship. Gone are the days when SA paid 87 cents for a dollar. Now it's closer to R20. Compare the state of SA now to a tiny country like Singapore. Anyone that thinks SA is better of now under black governance is a delusional fool.

[@larrenventer5524]

Am of Boer descent . You have summed it up very nicely. We are playing a long game here .400 years we will persevere and be here anothwr 400.

[@GG-un7hj]

Why can’t the Boor form a political group to press for independence, getting the land from a small portion of South Africa, like Israel vs Arabs.

[@pgstdb]

when I left South Africa in 1980, many people thought I was foolish to leave. Quote: "there are none so blind as those who will not see"

[@TheJosman]

It was never your forefather's homeland. Good to know you're know living amid your kinsfolk.

[@pgstdb]

@@TheJosman my forefathers lived in South Africa from 1656.

[@TheJosman]

@@pgstdb Your forefathers lived in Europe since time immemorial until the mid-17th century. If you took a DNA test, it would highlight Europe as your homeland.

[@Dionaea_floridensis]

My godfather is a Boer. He was a violin luthier and singer, now retired. He speaks Afrikaans, English, and Russian. He tried to teach my brother and I only the good parts about South Africa, because he'd get way too depressed talking about the bad

[@sebsebski2829]

What would be the bad things? Awful treatment of black people? Violence? Or destruction of a country? I'm not attacking you or anything, I genuinely want to know.

[@literatureconnoisseur]

@@sebsebski2829 no, the awful parts are the systematic decay of a country due to incompetent management

[@dixonhill1108]

@@sebsebski2829 "Awful treatment of black people?" this is such a misleading narrative. ZA isn't the US. It's africa. There was no underground railroad so blacks could go north to Zimbabwe. It was more like modern day dubai where the locals get a far higher standard of living than the laborers coming from south asia. Still unfair and brutal, but it isn't at all like what happened in the states.

[@sebsebski2829]

@@dixonhill1108 I'm not American.

[@tpower1912]

​@@sebsebski2829 Spiritually you are

[@jeffnic3116]

There were black people during Apartheid who became millionaires. They had a number of advantages over East Germans at the time (I had been to the DDR a number of times) a black person could walk into a Mercedes dealership and buy a car just like a white person while an East German had to wait 10+ years to get his Trabant. He could buy a mansion for a home, he was free to travel internationally on his South African passport, privilege's East Germans did not have.

[@damionkeeling3103]

Nelson Mandela went to university and became a lawyer under apartheid. I get that the ANC was opposed to what they saw as colonial education which is why they encouraged black people to boycott schools, but they could have set up their own native schooling system and countries like the Soviet Union would have jumped at the chance to help - but the ANC didn't do this and they'll still a trainwreck when it comes to doing things that keep a modern civilisation functioning.

[@jeffnic3116]

@@damionkeeling3103 Yes, Mandela was an educated man, shows blacks were not stopped from going threw university. From my observation, dictators (Stalin a good example) feared educated people, if you are well educated, you can think things threw, and see BS threw reasoning. Chaos is also a good tool to cause disruption and take control.

[@simbamartens7192]

Lol blacks were not even free to travel within their own homeland. They had to carry special passes which regulated whether they could move out of native reserves or not. Even communist countries didn't have as extensive a system of internal passports. Great that blacks could buy Mercedes, except that most could not even afford them. Also your stat on there being more black millionaires during Apartheid is false and requires a citation.

[@simphiwem9674]

One black millionaire doesn't reflect the reality of most black people in South Africa. I have a living uncle who lost an eye during the Sharpville massacre, I live with neighbors who were injected with unknown substances by the apartheid government. Their reality is not a far cry from the East Germans you speak of.

[@jeffnic3116]

@@simphiwem9674 I noticed your spelling, you are American. Tens of millions of black South Africans owned houses, not possible in the DDR.

[@JohannY3]

As a South African I can say this is one of the most accurate and unbiased videos about South Africa. The biggest, but not the only, reason for the income inequality is the massively different cultures between the different groups. You also allude to it near the end.

[@ixirion]

culture is part of the problem but I think population growth is probably the biggest problem in many countries. a family have a house they have 6 children in 20 years they need 5 more houses but does the productivity, GDP etc grew 5 times? at some point math leads to wars/famine and poverty. it happens in India/Asia/Africa/SAmerica so its not race related

[@JohannY3]

@@ixirion In the African context even overpopulation is a result of culture: The traditional African view is that number of children is your retirement planning. Yes, that is a pre-industrial belief, but that is the problem with (any) culture that doesn't adapt fast enough.

[@ixirion]

@@JohannY3 you can say that. you can say its also part of law system, education, religion etc. they all can force behaviours

[@JohannY3]

@@ixirion Actually all those things also have an effect on culture, but in this case, it is as simple as traditions and beliefs from the past. It seems to me you are deliberately trying to make the issue nebulous.

[@ixirion]

@@JohannY3 I dont think so. If you think it trough that is the essence of the problem or at least major part of it. think logicaly - issue - main reasons -. solutions. Culture is much broader concept but dont encomapas all reasons or most importantly all solutions. For example forced sterilization is not culture related solution, reducing the food will lead to death trough starvation, you can entact laws that are forced troug police like abortions after the second child etc. None of this is culture related

[@ressljs]

He touched on this in the video, but I spent some time in South Africa, and the "are they racist?" question of the Afrikaaners was one thing that puzzled me. I heard them talk, and it's like they have no filter. They would say things that to my ears as an American, sounded shockingly racist. But they also were almost always kind in their interactions with the blacks and when they talked about their country going downhill, it was clear they were worried about the fates of all South Africans, not just the whites. Just an example of this kind of behavior, we went to a market where all the shop keepers were black and you had to haggle over the prices. Before we went in, my Afrikaaner friend told me that while I should negotiate the price down, don't push it because these people really needed the money and I could afford to let them have a little extra.

[@pikapi6993]

lol, it's because they are African as well. Non Western people have no filter in general. It doesn't necessarily mean that they are bad people.

[@christopherpekel6096]

Sounds like us non-city Australians

[@user-eb7wv5wt3j]

How did you understand the Language ?

[@ressljs]

@@user-eb7wv5wt3j They went back and forth between English and Afrikaans. And sometimes when they were speaking in Afrikaans and they'd all burst out laughing, my friend would explain what was being said.

[@juulclark2651]

So glad people are revealing the bad state South Africa has become! From a once thriving first world country to a destroyed, over populated cesspool!

[@Andre_XX]

I always appreciate mention of overpopulation in discussions of human misery. It is a taboo subject that is rarely mentioned, and yet it is perhaps the ultimate cause of so much misery.

[@peterwulff469]

- no one could have predicted this would happen😊

[@peterwulff469]

@@Andre_XX - agree 100%. By and large the mother of all human misery.

[@Andre_XX]

@@peterwulff469 Yes, but nobody can mention it!

[@peterwulff469]

@@Andre_XX - we are living in the age of willed stupidity and stupidity.

[@scottanno8861]

"Africa Addio" is a great documentary that talks about what happens when "decolonization" happens in subsharan Africa.

[@christopher5846]

Does it talk about how the first democratically elected leader of the Congo was overthrown by a Belgium company who wanted to keep exploiting the country?

[@teftandlight]

does it mention all the coups in SSA as well? Does it mention France/UK/USA installing dictators that would do whatever was in line with Western interests? Even if it meant brutalizing local populations? Child labour? Or does it just give - in a myopic a view as possible what will sound good to white conservative ears?

[@anon2034]

@@christopher5846 You watched the move "The Siege of Jadotville". No. It was a about the Cold War influence games. Better "our democracy" then being under Red influence.

[@christopher5846]

​@@anon2034'our democracy' ah, so a neoliberal military dictatorship. I like how honest most westerners are when it comes le "democratic" values they yap about all day. I have not watched whatever that movie you mentioned is. I happen to not get my eduction and history from movies.

[@anon2034]

@@christopher5846 "so a neoliberal military dictatorship" I agree with your statement. I was making the arguement that it wasn't mining interests but rather a political strugle between USA and USSR. Mercenary Mike Hoare was financed by the CIA for example.

[@LukasMarbella]

Hey man would love to see a video on the UK. I was born in 1994 and can barely recognise the country I grew up in. The UK is a very interesting case because we have very high immigration of low skill workers from Pakistan and Nigeria, whilst at the same time increasing emmigration of the native population to Australia, US and Dubai. Australia in particular is very popular and I know many people who have moved there.

[@MrWolfstar8]

Modern UK resembles Roman Britain. Fertility collapse and inviting in the Angles and Saxons. I’m sure that will end well.

[@TheRealFamespear]

In every country that was once a British or European colony, as soon as they forced the colonists out, the countries turned to shit. India, South Africa, Haiti, Congo, etc. Too many to mention.

[@zell863]

But not every. Singapore, Hong Kong. Depending on the genetics of locals.

[@TheRealFamespear]

@@zell863, Singapore maybe, but how is Hong Kong better now? I think most Hong Kongers would disagree. I know a lot of them.

[@Avantika005]

India ? Talk about your country our country is doing well as of now

[@TheRealFamespear]

@@Avantika005 Seriously? Are you blind, deaf and dumb? India is one of the most corrupt countries on earth and has one of the highest poverty rates known to man. Not to mention the caste system, the enormous rates of rape, thievery, pestilence, poor education and graft.

[@TheJosman]

Haiti wasn't a British colony, it used to be French. Also, Haiti had to deal with American-backed coup-de-état throughout the 20th century.

[@MonsieurDean]

All liberal roads lead to South Africa.

[@TheoOosthuizen-xs2nq]

Very simplistic reasoning. What precisely in South Africa does it lead to? Is there any indication that your Western liberal societies (which together with the Soviet and Islamic world pushed this on South Africa) will have European groups like the Solidariteit movement, Orania or Kleinfontein? Not as of yet. You haven't said much, unless the only reality you observe is that of the state, and not the nations that make up the state, in which case you're very liberal yourself little boy.

[@porcine83]

@@TheoOosthuizen-xs2nq It may be simplistic, it's still entirely correct.

[@TheoOosthuizen-xs2nq]

@@porcine83 Not really, maybe in your strange fantasies. The reality is you're too individualistic to build the kind of institutions I referred to.

[@Leonidas300SP]

​​@@TheoOosthuizen-xs2nqCome now Theotjie, neither of those groups you mentioned are European. Also telling someone that their reasoning is "very simplistic" but then calling them a "little boy" is ridiculously stupid.

[@user-fs8yh3ob7b]

Aye, straight to Hell.

[@schalitz1]

Africa is the only continent that screamed "we want our independence," got it, then turned around and blamed their "overlords" when they (the Africans) screwed up. Most other places can at least acknowledge some of the good colonialism brought, infrastructure, education, healthcare, religion, etc... except Africa and they debatably needed colonialism more than anywhere else on the planet.

[@useodyseeorbitchute9450]

To be fair local elites were especially interested in independence and based on what ended in Swiss Banks they kind of may consider themselves as kind of successful...

[@visorij3374]

lol, you acting like Europe just left Africa alone, are we just going to ignore the Neo colonial projects countries like France have in Africa, the fact that France controls like 13 African countries currencies is enough to demolish your argument. The fact I pull up like 50 declassified documents showing the US directly causing and funding rebellions, coups, wars is Africa is proof enough.

[@anthonymanderson7671]

The blaming of the colonisers for their downfall which they created continues to be passed on to this day which is really sad and some africans just don't want to take responsibility and solve the mess their fellow citizens created.

[@speggeri90]

Im not sure its proper to say they needed colonialism, maybe rather that they needed to open up and learn from outside world. Colonialism after all is about exploitation.

[@jgw9990]

​@@speggeri90Nothing is "needed" really. But if colonialism didn't happen, what do you think would happen instead. The answer is that European merchants would have just sold machine guns to whoever happened to live on the coastlines, and then they'd have conquered inland using those weapons. Europe would fundamentally change Africa either way.

[@crazyralph6386]

This, and Empire of Dust, should be shown in every school in the West. Unfortunately, they’re making the exact same mistake by inserting D E I in every institution

[@justsmashing4628]

I left SA with my family in 2017, so sad to see how quickly the Bantu destroyed a successful economy and society

[@thunderwing2124]

As a Rwandan, I think the problem in Sub-Sahara might be "inheriting the country" VS "building the country". In Rwanda, we had to build the country from scratch after the Genocide, and there was an incentive to be competent(we had no natural resources). I think the Ethiopia and Botswana people also had to build their own institutions and infrastructure too. So, like you said, Rhodesia/Zimbabwe and SA might not have the cultural experience of building up from scratch. Edit: Wow! Thanks for the likes and support.

[@Mark-gd2ti]

Not having natural resources is usually a bless more than anything, people build more functional societies and economies that are way more resilient and expect everyone to be responsible, adults don't expect gold from the sky and childrens don't build any functional society that last crysis.

[@thunderwing2124]

@Mark-gd2ti Hahah that's true, but I also feel a bit jealous of the Emiratis' wealth. We are also landlocked, so everything is expensive (relative to the average salary here). But we also have a good climate, a clean city and security. So there is much to be grateful for.

[@dannyarcher6370]

The thing that utterly amazes me about Rwanda is how the hell you Hutus and Tutsis are able to even talk to each other after that, let alone build together. There was never anything close to that in South Africa (though some blacks like Malema will have you believe otherwise), and I would say racial tensions are higher today than they ever were during apartheid because, as the video mentioned, whites get blamed for everything.

[@thunderwing2124]

@dannyarcher6370 I'd say that there are 2 reasons: 1) We were never originally different tribes. Hutus and Tutsis were a class separation imposed by the Europeans to help them rule. We had clans, but we had the same culture and language. 2) Leadership. Our president has tried to make the country move forward, by force if necessary. Both allies and opposition have been chased out for trying to sow division. I remember last year some officials tried to reinstate an old clan, and there was a slew of firings and arrests. Besides, we, the younger generation, grew up in a stable country and get along with each other. It's not the most "democratic" or perfect system, but it's working so far.

[@dannyarcher6370]

@@thunderwing2124 Well, good luck to you. I have given up on a positive future for SA. Blacks just can't seem to move on from the past or be grateful for inheriting the most advanced economy on the continent by far. This year's elections are going to be very dangerous indeed because they are not abandoning the ANC for forward-thinking parties. They're going to ANC splinters with even louder black nationalist parties. I mean, you've seen what they do to even their fellow Bantus from across the continent!

[@sas_za6305]

The Afrikaaners only fought the British because the Brits would not leave them alone. The Afrikaaners fled the British controlled Cape, then ... the Brits followed them. They wanted the gold that was discovered where the Afrikaaners settled. The Brits were also responsible for setting up the early foundations of Apartheid. Along with sending Afrikaaners to concentration camps in Sri Lanka / Ceylon. Best to see the Brits for what they are.

[@sans_hw187]

The British doomed white South Africans by persecuting the Boers. They should have given them a piece of land for their republic. By wanting it all they created hatred and division which eventually destroyed the country.

[@Rowlph8888]

they were the only empire to have positive and negative. They absolutely are the reason for the end of the international slave trade.

[@kevinstevens2120]

What smart energetic people who built one of the largest empires ever? Laughable

[@sans_hw187]

@@kevinstevens2120 the Brits were anything but smart in South Africa, greedy is a better term. They could have let the Afrikaneers have their own piece of land for their republic, but instead they wanted everything for themselves and it backfired badly

[@joyholtzhausen8976]

The world likes to forget British concentration camps making believe that they are a Nazi invention. My ouma was herded into one at age 9 so I heard first hand what that was like

[@aprilsmith3683]

Our beautiful broken country...🇿🇦

[@dead_or_alive2649]

It’s not like they had to reinvent the wheel, all they had to do was maintain it..... 🙄🙄

[@CosmicHyperborean]

They did it to themselves.

[@anthonymanderson7671]

Yet they continue to blame white people for their own failures.

[@a-dutch-z7351]

Nope, they were pressured into it.

[@chico9805]

​@@a-dutch-z7351By who? The same people every time.

[@DeadSabbath806]

J E W S

[@10hawell]

Rhymes with gru and also relies on mindles minions concerned about bananas.

[@pacifistidentitarian549]

I was born in Argentina but grew up in SA , I now live in Uruguay, I grew up in a great time ,Apartied had ended but the country had not fallen due to corruption, I am lucky to have great memories and have SA culture but equal lucky to have left when I did in 2009

[@JamesDBlanc]

How do you like Uruguay? I hear its safe and the standard of living is good even by Western standards.

[@pacifistidentitarian549]

@@JamesDBlanc It's great , Truly Grateful to be here , It's safe (Especially outside of Montevideo), great beaches , Great beef 🍖 ,love Maté . It is expensive but think that is the price you pay for a good quality of life

[@SatoshiTajiri]

@@JamesDBlanc It's not "safe" as people romanticize it. While it's mostly empty, 70% of the country intersects with the borders of Argentina and Brazil, those areas are quite dangerous as they have become a hotspot for narcos moving drugs due to crappy government policies and lack of border patrolling.

[@samuelseymour7850]

Did you and your brother own the Pizza shop in Johannesburg north ?

[@pacifistidentitarian549]

@@samuelseymour7850 hahaha nope , I am from Durban

[@jollyjohnthepirate3168]

Remember what happened in Zimbabwe. They went from the food basket of Africa to a food desert that teeters on the edge of starvation.

[@jeffnic3116]

During Apartheid, when white kids went to school, their parents had to pay school fees and pay for their books. Black kids did not have to pay, as the Apartheid government decided it was too much of a financial burden on the have nots and may end up causing them to not go to school. Getting blacks a school education was a benefit for the economy. There was also a program to get blacks out of tin shacks and into proper structure homes, 99 year mortgage and 0% interest, financed by the state. I think that was a very good idea even though the whites who paid the taxes did not benefit from it. We had to try and uplift them from the squalor, try and make life better. The problem was the reproductive rate outstripped what the state could do.

[@simbamartens7192]

You forgot to mention the part where blacks received inferior "Bantu education" that only trained them for menial labour and the Apartheid government spent 10 times more per child on white education than black education, with slightly smaller ratios for coloureds and Indians. Don't try to whitewash Apartheid.

[@treasuretshabalala132]

I am a black young South African and if this is really true, then I was not aware of it. I'm interested in learning how our country functioned politically and economically during the Apartheid regime. Do you have any sources of information that you recommend I should check out? Every "intellectual" is so biased nowadays. I have a professor at UCT of all places subtly preaching socialism in our lectures. It's sad.

[@arlenespencer5850]

Facts... Yes we were forced monthly to contribute to " their " benefits & needs even if you could not afford to. They just kept on destroying everything. I remember clearly on TV them burning & trashing their school. VERY NEXT DAY.... same fella whom spearheaded the chaos was on TV AGAIN ... CRYING and we don't have schools for our people. I was floored. GREAT mindset GOING FORWARD 🤦‍♀️ you can't help those whom are NOT willing to help themselves.

[@BladeTrain3r]

The idea that direct redistribution is supposed to somehow lead to an uptick in quality of life is the key fallacy in terms of South Africa's downfall. Taking resources directly away from the more affluent classes in any country is rarely going to improve things, a better approach is to force-multiply opportunity through proper policy, wise incentives, and a very gentle corrective touch on the markets to disentangle the biggest messes. Instead the ANC ham-handed unrealistic and overreaching projects, siphoned all the tax money into graft, and repeatedly blamed history for the problems thus arising. To cease favouring one class does not mean to take what it already has, and to do so will result in sour feelings at least, and a slippery slope at worst. Unfortunately, South Africa's far more worst than best case scenario.

[@christopher5846]

If only they had followed the US example, they would end up with boom and bust every few years, no social services and crippling inequality. Oh wait SA economy is already liberalised. Perhaps that's the problem.

[@teftandlight]

100%.

[@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115]

@@christopher5846 Hey, college communist, daily reminder that USA people is paying 40%+ of their income in taxation due to liberal/Dems policies.

[@dogdog2635]

And the ANC is already beating the “land restitution without compensation” drum going into elections

[@ElectronFieldPulse]

@@christopher5846- They would do much better with the US model, but they just can’t get anything right. Socialism and its offshoots have brought nothing but pain, some people are just too dumb to see it

[@SuperVolsung]

Whats the difference between a tourist and a racist in South Africa? 2 weeks

[@Codysdab]

My family from SA left in the 90s,they saw the collapse coming back then.

[@tyvamakes5226]

Serpentza (known for his China videos) has covered quite a lot with South Africa. I recommend people to check him out as a primary source.

[@crusader2112]

I saw one video of his many years ago where he was complaining that the Chinese seemed to not accept him as Chinese despite living there for a while and assimilating. And I was like buddy you’re some western white boy of course they’re not gonna except you. You’re not Chinese no matter how much you “assimilate.” But maybe I’ll give him a second chance. P.S. Obviously racism against any people is wrong, I just don’t have a high opinion of expats.

[@iscuit]

I know he has lived in china, I used to subscribe to him, but he seems like an anti china propagandist or something. I saw his new video about "murder season in china" and it's such a joke

[@fredrikchristmansson3700]

​@@crusader2112so what you're saying is racism against white people is ok. 🙄

[@crusader2112]

@@fredrikchristmansson3700 No obviously not. I’m saying that he wasn’t Chinese no matter how hard he tries to assimilate. The Chinese seem to have an in group preference and honestly whites need to rediscover that in ourselves as well. Also, I just don’t have a high opinion of American expats. I find them kind of cringe.

[@Wartensteiin]

​@@fredrikchristmansson3700Yes

[@macosx10.7lion4]

24:58 obsolete chart. Murder rates in El Salvador are down to US-esque levels since Bukele took power and fixed the gang problem using dictatorial methods. Meanwhile, Ecuadorean murder rates are massively up due to gang violence (not sure if they're top ten level though). BTW, please make an analysis of the Baltic states next! (I'm Latvian)

[@erengk2566]

They had US levels of murder in 2022, they were way below the US in 2023. It now competes with Canada for the title of safest country in the western hemisphere. It's geniunely insane what bukele did

[@captainvanisher988]

It's lower than the Us. Us is 4-6 per 100k in homicide rate. El Salvador has dropped at 2.4. It's officially the country with the lowest murder and crime rates in the Americas.

[@macosx10.7lion4]

@@captainvanisher988 there are allegations that it's fudging the number, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's true because it's basically a police state. It needs to finish the crackdown and get the deficit under control. Gangs being destroyed will cause an economic boom.

[@RonanHarkins-xk5zz]

​@@captainvanisher988who knew arresting people for commiting crimes coyld be so good at keeping crime rates low? 😮

[@captainvanisher988]

@@RonanHarkins-xk5zz that and the fact that there is no common denominator (🥷🏾) in the country helps a lot too.

[@Scott.Silburn]

I must congratulate you on a very good, well balanced documentary on South Africa. You've captured many of the subtleties that characterise our country. I never dreamed that things would get as bad as they have in this country, and it seems to me that the ANC has in fact been working towards full blown socialism all along. I look forward to positive changes after the forthcoming elections, please God...

[@mfallen2023]

Great video essay. I just happened to have this recommended & I'm glad I checked it out

[@Mabena430]

South Africa went from nuclear generated electricity to no electricity

[@thetigerking2613]

You should do a video about Lebanon. Textbook demographic example of war, emigration, immigration. And different TFRs among different ethno-religious groups.

[@fjtpersian6566]

Lebanon is even in a more worst state .

[@ryeguy7941]

Lebanon took many refugees in and paid the ultimate price in the end.

[@NoOneInParticular88]

TRFs?

[@SWCMNP523]

8:41 reminds me of the movie "ideocracy" where the low IQ people had a lot of offspring and the high IQ had little to none.

[@timlewis5096]

I found this very informative. Thanks for the time and effort in making this video

[@MadBroStudio]

Gandhi did not free India. A certain Austrian fellow waged war against their British oppressors for 6 years and bankrupted them. Post WWII, The British could not have held onto India even if they wanted to.

[@Colin-ut6cm]

They couldnt have held even without ww2. India's independence movement had already picked up so much steam preww2 that independence was almost surely going to happen. The only question was how it would happen

[@Smileton]

If anything Gandhi's actions probably delayed India's independence by atleast 10-15 years.

[@savagegtalks5912]

@@Colin-ut6cm correction, they was gonna drop it no matter what. India was just a waste bin of resources, compared to what they got in return. As India had nothing to offer then, stagnated, no need to improve, hot climate no need to worry.

[@cattysplat]

@@savagegtalks5912 Britain probably still kicking themselves to this day not holding onto USA instead keeping India.

[@kordellswoffer1520]

Nonsense they totally could’ve it just would’ve been a massive and undesired expense.

[@Dionaea_floridensis]

Ian Smith is weeping in heaven

[@user-lq7nq1dg8u]

hes burning in hell. also he was the leader of rhodesia not south africa

[@vortigan9068]

Ian Smith in heaven watching blacks steal copper

[@christopher5846]

Why do you always glorify losers? He lost and no one remembers him.

[@vortigan9068]

@@christopher5846 because the good guys won every war right guys?

[@SenkkoAnon]

@@christopher5846 You don't deserve your name. You should change it to an African name.

[@salomemalherbe677]

EXCELLENT VIDEO ❤ .. Baie Dankie !! As an Afrikaner I appreciate the positive light thrown on the role of my people as the founding Fathers of modern SA. However you missed the devastating role of the English towards Afrikaner since they came to our shores 200 years ago. As a conquering world empire of 5 continents using their language as a WMD ... The Boer War Concentration Camps Scorched Earth policy of 36000 farms go unmentioned. so, too, the aggressive verEngelsing of our Afrikaans Universities Towns in a full scale language cultural war!! Global Britain has worked behind the scenes with the ANC to destroy the Afrikaner since 1913 .. Soros Kissenger Mi6 CIA created civil unrest from within amongst the Black and Coloured people whilst we were fighting a 30 year war against Communism Today the Cape Province is earmarked for independence to give Global Britain free access to its harbour ... the Afrikaner volk has been deeply wounded by the English 3rde TAALOORLOG against in our own country . They, the BLACK SASH are still the enemy

[@nicky3748]

Greedy black leaders - that's the problem!!!

[@David-cj8wv]

Mandela ruined SA yet he’s treated like a god by the history books

[@jesseking9254]

He was a black communist, exactly what the West loved in the 80's and 90's

[@rainyvideos3684]

That's because we're so close to all the people who love him are writing about him, Give it a 100 years or so.

[@recurrenTopology]

With out Mandela, or a figure like him, white South Africans would have had all their property confiscated at best and been massacred en masse at worst. Apartheid ZA was not sustainable, and Mandela made its deconstruction as peaceful as could reasonably have been hoped. That isn't to say he is above criticism, or that the ANC isn't responsible for the country's subsequent mismanagement, but I think its hard to argue that he wasn't crucial in preventing what could have been a humanitarian disaster and possibly genocide.

[@tiaanbasson9092]

​@@recurrenTopologyNever underestimate the strategic capabilities of the whites. They may have less numbers, but they can design and build weapons that can wipe out an entire population. Hell even I've made a 100% accurate headshot targetting system using a cheap webcam, some motors and computer vision.

[@user-gz1nv6nw3q]

His wife was quite literally the devil. No, perhaps worse than the devil. Somehow, NO ONE mentions her.

[@constantinethecataphract5949]

Why can't the Netherlands give boers Dutch citizenship already?

[@jesseking9254]

Because the Netherlands only wants to import non-Dutch speaking, non-Christian black people.

[@martychisnall]

Why should they have to leave South Africa?

[@constantinethecataphract5949]

@@martychisnall Because whites living there was always doomed to fail. Let the natives build up and destroy themselves. They don't want you in S.A. Also ango South Africans should have gotten citizenship from the UK but sadly no they give it to anyone else.

[@DenUitvreter]

We give far too many citizenships to people who let their countries be messed up. The Boers might have been an unlikable bunch, people that just settled to farm on uncultivated land are the least of problem or colonial heritage.

[@constantinethecataphract5949]

@@DenUitvreter i have made 2 comments. Both got deleted.

[@ebennieuwoudt9588]

Spot on, you captured the nuances perfectly, well done with your research. Even your pronunciations.

[@Alex-ze2ii]

Excellent video, very well researched, unbiased and broad. You have managed to dissect it in a manner that most people outside South Africa cannot. Thank you for shinning a light on the struggles we face.

[@shian652]

Being on Twitter during the events of July 2021 was quite an experience to say the least.

[@ashebox]

Well researched, accurate and articulate without bias, great video!

[@oliverschubert8242]

That’s why I moved to Europe from South Africa, as a white South African.

[@gups4963]

maybe you mention this is the end of the video, the Zulu are not native they invaded as much as the Brits did. They ended apartheid to hand the country over to another invader, that said the Khoi apparently have an ok relationship with them now after both going through aparthied

[@nekhumonta]

Oh, are only Zulu people in power? Are they the only ones who can vote? Or are you just mad they got equal rights to white people now?

[@nikosgreek352]

They're native by this point. I think "natives" in any land are just the latest bunch of invaders occupying the land. Natives, countries, peoples...they all come and go as the millenia steadily march on.

[@DenUitvreter]

Many of the Cape coloured feel discriminated against for not being black enough.

[@nellym46664]

@@DenUitvreter How come, when they are beneficiaries of the same policies meant to address the historical injustices faced by all non-whites. Also, they make up the majority of the DA-governed Western Cape, so you cant blame the black man for their troubles.

[@captainvanisher988]

@@nikosgreek352 Yes and no. As a Greek person you should know that the illegal immigrant from mainland Turkey to Northern Cyprus are not natives and if a union was ever to happen, they'd be deported en masse. That's just one example. Another example is how jews repopulated their ancestral lands. For someone to be considered a native they must have at least a few centuries of existence in the lands and be part of the culture of the region.

[@Larry-Livermore]

The South African people will cheer when the ANC nightmare is over and Law and Order is restored.

[@SuperVolsung]

we have a saying here regarding that : Hope in one hand and sh*t in the other and see which fills up first

[@janrabie1890]

100 years from now the history books on South Africa will simply read: “European colonists first settled on a permanent basis in 1652 and established a society based on a European model. However, unlike other settlements in America, Australia and New Zealand, the colonists always remained a minority and their government was eventually overthrown in 1994 by the majority of indigenous people. Subsequent to that transition, the country quickly regained the system of governance it had prior to colonisation. In such a system, tribal regional strongmen rule without accountability amassing large personal wealth with no tolerance for opposition. Consequently, development stalled and life expectancy, per capita income, and literacy levels all declined for the broader population.” Somewhere in there, you and I lived our lives. The rest is just detail.

[@MrLemonbaby]

What an incredible over view and all done in a fascinating 30 minutes. Thank you, I've sub'd'

[@pacoramon9468]

Funny how the racist guy from Invictus was right about the downfall of the country.

[@Embassy_of_Jupiter]

Everyone today knows every bad thing that ever happened under colonialism and has heard it a million times. That's why it would be interesting to have a video about what good colonialism has done. It's kind of like sentencing poor uneducated people to a forced apprenticeship. It sounds bad if you phrase it like that, but that's basically the same as our mandatory school system. Yet you don't hear anyone in the mainstream ever complain about mandatory schooling, because they recognize it as a universial good. Really the only reason why all these countries are so much worse off today is because colonialism stopped prematurely. You didn't see Hong Kong or Singapore descend into chaos. The opposite in fact, they are better off than their former colonial masters.

[@jacobmatthews7524]

its benefits are so subtantial and ubiquitous that they're invisible because without them there is nothing. everyone wears our clothes, speaks our languages, uses our political systems, drives our cars, talks on our phones, communicates with our internet, trades with our money, heals with our medicine, functions with our infrastructure, discovers with our science. the wealth, HDI, and life expectancy of every country on Earth has exploded under that system. In ending it, the West made a grave mistake.

[@Nope_handlesaretrash]

This is an interesting idea but the problem is many colonial powers went out of their way not to train the local talent.

[@evangelosvasiliades1204]

This not at all the same. Singapore and Hong Kong are Chinese cultural entities, the Chinese had societal stability and a functioning mercantile and beaurocratic class before colonizers ever showed up. The only gap to overcome for them against the west was purely technological. Sub Saharan Africa is a very different story.

[@mezzodoppio58]

Hong Kong and Singapore are special cases since they were city-states that were almost entirely created by British colonialism from the ground up, without the burden of a large hinterland and the associated baggage of deeply rooted rural societies. As such the state had a freer hand to mold the country as economic conditions demanded, while having the benefit of being a mostly urbanized society with a cadre of skilled professionals and civil servants to carry out those plans. The point is, they should not be included in a fair comparison of postcolonial states.

[@tpower1912]

​@@Nope_handlesaretrash What local talent?