The DRAMA Continues…

EA has pushed the community to the breaking point in FC 24, and there IS something we can do about it...
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[@connordurham6827]

I’m just exhausted with this game. Tired of my time being continually disrespected

[@marzipanmonkey]

Yeah, feeling the same. The grind is just tedious now with the awful pack weight and frustrating dupes which are way to prevalent this time around. Having Milestones giving out crappy TIFOs which I'm never going to use rather than packs which would help. To wildly overpriced SBCs to "My packs" which are so called rewards given to us for coming back to the game only to slap a £200k coin price on it.

[@noduj]

If you want a change, don't buy eafc 25.

[@DeepDiver-bh2ex]

Just dont spend money on the game, pay to win . People buy because they are garbage you dont need coins to do good if your good

[@davidwright8453]

​@noduj i swear this one was meant to be free :(

[@SpeithErger]

Just say no. And stop playing.

[@benjamincrew8383]

Big W Nate for leaving SharePlays if they have fc points and actually speaking about ea and the drama with us

[@robfut9954]

Huge W! He scored a lot of love for doing this. More creators need to establish this rule. And WE the viewers need to unsubscribe from creators who don’t do this

[@southshottest1654]

It’s irrelevant because they will still do it again next fifa watch

[@Boxingfan-mg8mf]

Nick rttf is the one putting pressure on Fut Accountant and Auzio to speak up

[@jimmyk1998]

How is that w 😂😂😂 they will still buy and open . Ppl need to stop playing . All get together and say we don't play next weekend.

[@user-ps1qp5dj8q]

😂😂😂😂

[@mehdi33x]

Belgium banned the purchase of FC points years ago. That's the change that need to happen.

[@Cjs.bullies]

Yh becus gambling is banned gambling ain’t banned in the uk so that won’t happen mate

[@mehdi33x]

@@Cjs.bullies gambling is not banned. Loot boxes are banned. It's not the same

[@mrsugar2352]

@@Cjs.bulliesgambling for 3 years + is banned tho isn’t it? If they want the gambling aspect make it an 18+ see what that does for the sales.

[@Cjs.bullies]

@@mrsugar2352 true mr sugar

[@JoaoFelix-jr2qp]

Every fifa points addict in belgium just made a account in a different country en still buying points

[@liamchapman8693]

Join RTFM. The journey begins now. Together we can do so much more, we are stronger. This needs to change and he's starting something for the people

[@brianboegershausen3263]

Such a trash take. What was his plan, to have all creators quit without asking them or knowing what’s going on in their lives if they could even do it. They don’t even have any power EA only cares about $$. If you wanna make a difference the players have to quit themselves or at least do RTG.

[@liamchapman8693]

@brianboegershausen3263 EA hate negative publicity more than anything... look at the star wars game when it broke out people had to pay to get access to characters. Big creators stop streaming, pros don't enter pro events this all makes it on the big scale. I guarantee these streamers have enough money to go without steaming fifa for 20 days. Il

[@brianboegershausen3263]

@@liamchapman8693 the Star Wars issue was way different lol. People didn’t buy the game because of it and that’s what made them change it. There were no pro Star Wars leagues wtf. Don’t assume you know these peoples lives it’s on us to make a difference not them

[@davidburgoa4397]

@@brianboegershausen3263 players could also collectively take breaks from the game and allow streamers to take a break. What I mean by that is, supporting other type of content they do so that stopping playing this game does not affect their livelihood.

[@COVIDPLAYSOFTHEWEEK12345]

@@brianboegershausen3263you don’t think they’re all at serious risk of losing there jobs anyway? Engagement and viewership on FIFA content and in the FIFA franchise in general is trending down at a rate of knots. If nothing changes these channels will all be dead in a few years.

[@ulisescarrillo3050]

We need countries to ban FC points for purchase, that's what we need

[@mayayonolini2539]

Even if you buy packs with coins, people watching are using the results as justification to go spend money, even if that’s not your intention. People who would normally never spend money see you pack mbappe and think, well I know I have a chance so maybe just 50 dollars one time, and the cycle repeats it’s self. I think promoting the store in general needs to be avoided because it just creates temptation and fomo and people end up caving in and spending. Ea don’t even need to market or try to sell their new packs, because streamers do it for them for free.

[@Cha0s2023]

Excellently put

[@MrPcashmoney]

Yep, totally. Store itself needs avoiding, not just FP.

[@nazwakontaa1]

If you spend money you should pack something good. I don't say Mbabe or other Top player but decent cards, not foder.

[@fariedfetzzo6652]

​@@nazwakontaa1hell na.. Store is the source of the fraud lol

[@Mr.Sickomode06]

@@fariedfetzzo6652 what I think they should do if they want to sell sell us mbappe by coins or points just him

[@traafnchinh5896]

Hi Nate, I was one of the guy who criticized your mbapbe tweet under the EA's tweet. I take that back, glad to see you are one of the few creators who is still on our side.

[@Mertens310]

wtf take it like man bro this guys cry about everything when they have everything in the game the best players they have everything and they still bitch about it

[@AlphaAbyss_]

Ngl I think he was really mad but he was just to gassed about packing him not to bring it up

[@alakazamhippity3192]

Idk mate feels more like he saw the backlash and is now backpedaling to keep his subs

[@oliveryoung6845]

Pie face lost his head this year so has auzio so has bateson all they do I open packs they are pathetic little boys and I genuinely have a better team than them 😊I am a better player and enjoy the game more

[@vector2op]

Same ​@@alakazamhippity3192

[@undergroundBirch13]

Brother i just deleted the game, i grinded champs to 14 wins and got nothing same with PL and Bundes champs, got Donnaruma and Golovin. I’m grinding elite rivals and nothing. I just cannot take the disrespect from EA anymore.

[@PerPolar]

? You got 2 good cards! Honestly the fifa community is like a kindergarten, everyone wants the same shiny toy. I have enjoyed this years game more than any since 10-11(I’m a fut founder) I play ONLY with sentimental squads and are having a ton of fun using different players,formations and so forth. The moment you step out from the meta and accept to loose more often you will probably end up having a lot more fun.

[@IZ4DAYZ_]

​@@PerPolaryes brother, as soon as I realised trying to keep up with the "meta" wasn't worth it I just started making teams I like, I've been doing a man city for the past 8 months and it has been very enjoyable

[@pipb07]

@@IZ4DAYZ_man city players have meta cards 😅

[@mattsong7149]

Good for you. My best L1 tots besides Minamino is Bentaleb. Enjoy your Golovin.

[@IZ4DAYZ_]

@@mattsong7149 all I've got since prem tots is bentaleb😭

[@dgxyahiko]

EA is just arrogant at this point in time cause they don’t have any competition for a football video game. If we just have another decent football game that can compete with this company. The community wouldn’t be as toxic as it is rn for general players playing the game as well as streamers.

[@shakh1407]

Fifa said they were going to make a game but idk what happened. The issue is new games will struggle to get the rights to use real team names and likeness of players. Remember how pro evo couldnt use it for ages, just makes it way harder to market the game

[@kyledavis5646]

@@shakh1407 I think they said the goal is to have it by 2030... fuck we cant wait that long!

[@shakh1407]

@@kyledavis5646 yeah thats a while...there was another free to play football game called UFL that was meant to be coming out and cr7 is an investor. I think its coming soon lets hope its good

[@gareth1422]

I'm actually truly disappointed with creators not going to war with nick 😢

[@gourjamz4300]

It’s easy for someone who is very well off and gets good views whatever he streams, for most EAFc streamers they get a massive drop off when they stream anything else, also a lot will have sponsorship deals that mean they have to maintain viewers

[@WolfiPr]

Btw, are ligue 1 tots even in packs? Haven't packed a single decent one. The women from D1 seem to be even more rare.

[@DeeEditor1]

Based on the extrapolated data deduced from the reading of your comment, I have come to the conclusion and can confidently confirm that Ligue 1 ToTS are in packs.

[@romannavarro1178]

I pack only the shit one

[@nilsdemesmaeker8530]

Hi Nate, I'm from Belgium, since a few years our Belgian government has set a law on gambling and micro transactions (like the late night roulette games on tv etc) as a result we can't buy fifa points anymore, also COD mobile falls under this because they also make use of a lot of microtransactions. I think the best way to do something is setting up an organisation against gambling and microtransactions, go to your government and show them how these kind of transactions are the same as illegal gambling. And show how people are getting affected buy this (maybe as far as they loose their mortgage) basically let your government make it illegal to sell coins or points

[@andyhorlez7542]

You can just use a VPN ( I'm Also from Belgium )

[@Sponhexagonal]

Nate is spot on about not buying FC points in accordance to those profit metrics. It’s truly the only way for us to make EA start bleeding. Content creators - if you’re reading this, we need you. We don’t need you to quit or go somewhere else, in fact, we probably need you in this community more than ever. Don’t buy store packs, don’t SharePlay store packs, and don’t promote them. Make it a point. Make them have to change something in order to keep our business.

[@Sponhexagonal]

The UI of the game is a decade old. We are all essentially playing an iteration of the game that came out ten years ago - with even worse core mechanics - watching, streaming, and haplessly grinding away at nothing. I do not know another gaming community on Planet Earth that would be willing to put up with this level of mediocrity. Are we finally, FINALLY at “Enough is Enough”?

[@xmarkedx]

Every game you grind for literal nothing...a digital item that doesnt earn you any status in real life...

[@Ducks23]

The ui this year is something else and is still having issues

[@stonedbeanstv]

yeah, the UI is outdated for years now - you can feel the server state in the UI, when its laggy and delayed, the server are too - the gameplay is another thing, a suprise package.

[@fcbandwagonlona7315]

Hey Nate, I side with your stance and commend you for focusing on offering trading tips and advice on how to play the game without spending money. We understand this is your livelihood and will continue supporting you on the streams. Hopefully the efforts will help teach everybody, especially kids and newcomers, that spending is not necessary at all to have a decent experience. 

A few tips/ideas I have that may have a small but noticeable effect: -Place a message or banner on the livestream that reminds people that only accounts without FC Points will be accepted for sharing. -Reminders about free objective cards to complete to help the squad. This may not help everyone…but definitely for any newcomer or person who took a break. They provide a quick way to get positions up to the curve. -Reminders to take a break from playing if the game is getting to stressful. Or to try other games that are not from EA as a break. Best of luck and keep up the awesome work!

[@BOYMACKAVELI]

FUT was at its best when it was focused on being fun. Low lvl cards like 82 Agbonlahor would be affordable and beasts, so you had a lot of options when it came to squad building. The old tournaments where you win 4 games and win 10K and you could keep replaying meant you could enjoy the game if you didn’t spend money and if you wanted to spend that was your choice. Now it’s just pay to win where ridiculous amounts of money is being spent.

[@jaskaransandhu9483]

Deleted this trash of a game, getting nice rewards is a mistake what a logic by EA

[@brilliantran9808]

Dont come back for 25. You will have mental health issues then, when Take Two Interactive makes this came gambling only. 😂😂😂😂

[@LeeMeehan]

Whats worse for a Content Creator… pissing off EA or pissing off their Viewers/Subscribers? Me personally, im getting more pissed off with some Content Creators who are showing their true colours and I unsubscribed with 5 yesterday due to ignorance or attitude towards these problems. I think some CC loyalties are going to cost them long term and are not realising this.

[@Mdteetz]

Drop those names so I can unfollow also

[@nicholasirioke8499]

What's most frustrating is how EA deliberately make it so you don't get good players. Champs rewards have been horrible for years, EA didn't fix it. But with just a push of a key on a keyboard rewards changes. It feels like you don't have any pack luck, you just a pawn in EA chess game. Keep speaking up Nate. Thanks

[@Jan-fr6zw]

For ea this Game is a finance product, for the Community is part of our lifes, our time. We love Football and this games since we are young. We have to join the movement for change and democratize FIFA. Lets fight for co-determination❤

[@Definitely_Not_Angel]

I understand Nate’s overall job in this game. But the fact that this game has shit gameplay is what makes the trading aspect useless because all those hours spent on menus and the transfer market is wasted when you find out that 92-96 red picks are garbage after 3-5 games. At this point, you might as well become an actual day trader in stocks and ACTUALLY make money.

[@Definitely_Not_Angel]

I’m not trying to come after Nate, I’m just saying that EA have driven this franchise so far to the ground that basic content creators can’t even get consistent content due to the lack of fucks given when it comes to actual quality in gameplay and fixing it.

[@stonedbeanstv]

I play UT since 2013 (FIFA since the SNES games) and we always got bugs, lags, delays and many more problems, but this year is the cherry on the cake. EA don't care, they don't need to be scared or something, cuz there is no other game like FIFA / EA FC out there and EA knows that, EA knows we all play FIFA since our childhood and we always will... the circle is real and we are a part of it. I stopped for 2 years and here I'm, back in the game, but now I just get my 7 wins, go up into Div 3 and stop playing, no WL (no time), no quali for WL, nothing else. When I feel the gameplay is shit, I quit. No time wasting anymore.

[@saptarshiroychowdhury5468]

what I believe would actually unite this community is, if all the big names such as Auzio, Nick, Bateson, You, Inception, AJ3 and eveyone else whom I am forgetting(apologies) come up with a singular idea like in a common shared stream where all of their viewers can see that they are united and they stop or convey the message that they won't be spending money on FC points and won't shareplay for people who are buying and wanting to open store packs with FC points. I agree with you and many other content creators we as a fan base, as a community really want all of you to find a common ground and guys please dont spread hate to any of the content creators, but in my opinion this is what I think will hurt EA the most.

[@robfut9954]

I think creators should also pledge to ALSO make content for the next 2K (or whoever makes it) non-EA FIFA title whenever that comes.

[@huangsteve8117]

2k is the worst

[@Mr_Hummus]

2k is just as bad as ea

[@sensaidoom]

I'm sure they all will dip in to it, just like some dip in to E-Football, especially if it becomes popular. Unfortunately 2K are a pretty terrible company and their micro transaction models are arguably worse, with even more buggy gameplay.. I wouldn't get your hopes up.

[@Dcanks32]

Or have them play efootball

[@robfut9954]

@@Dcanks32 I feel like eFootball’s day is coming, just hasn’t hit mainstream yet

[@fuadhusni8660]

Let's do our best to make the change. Nice move from you Nate to stop sharing play with fc points!

[@brandondavid7532]

The thing about the new devs just building on top of old code is definitely true, go into friendly matches and the idiots still have fifa 21 flags in the crowd

[@KennethRobinson-rf9wj]

Really digging your videos, keep it real!

[@RitvarsJakobijs]

Love that Nate is sticking up for Nick. I would love having Nate, Nick & Matt doing a KZbin session discussing this EA Sports fiasco between themselves.

[@Mr.Sickomode06]

Dude this is exactly what we wanted in very happy with your stance and respect it! Like I told you before I’d support you with anything you do we just needed a voice and this was it thank you brother

[@JJBGaming__YT]

We all appreciate big content creators speaking out with all the issues with this game ! We are all very passionate for this game to be GREAT again ❤

[@ajm19691]

Thanks for being real Nat! I’ve struggled with opening packs with fc points, because of this I will not spend another penny on this game and it’s going to be my last FIFA!

[@larrylindblom5926]

Yeah did anybody else see that ea is going to experiment with putting ads inside of their game

[@MrSimkus]

If they do that, i delete game

[@erikkharris5061]

You’re already getting hit with one when you load into ult tm

[@octivazquez]

Bringing in the EA financial reports was such an important angle that you’re uniquely qualified to provide insight to. Bravo Nate, hit them in the wallet where it hurts

[@jinace6538]

It didnt start friday. Its been garbage all year. Friday was just the tipping point

[@caal8663]

ea: we didn’t want you getting those kind of rewards unless you spend $50 in the store

[@calinmuscalu5912]

Dude you can spend 1000 and you won’t get those rewards

[@keenangan6047]

Spent 200 bucks got nth so fuck that

[@aurelienhomann6372]

Can we just hold on one second and appreciate the streamer who was created the biggest dent into those 5.5b year after year, king of RTGs and one and only Nate TFA? If someone can not and must not stop creating EA FC content, it's gonna be him.

[@llamalandYT]

I must say (after being critical) that fair play for deciding to demonise FC Points. Leaving any share plays with users who have bought FC points is appreciated. Hopefully this sensible approach will be more amenable to streamers and more will get on board. Kudos to @nickrtfm for having the balls to start the ball rolling...

[@Phr3shAjayy]

even as a game changer i appreciate you staying honest. You're not saying anything bad so i hope theres no issues in the long run, but the way you broke the finances was exceptional. only way to make change is to go F2p. they are making money so they see the formula working. but truly, its absurd

[@Nocular]

I'm so sorry I doubted you Nate. You're doing the best thing here standing against FC points, and being honest. Thanks 🙏

[@Boxingfan-mg8mf]

Nick rttf is putting pressure on Nate and Auzio to speak up and stop acting like EA employees

[@InTheNameOfOman]

I left the game and deleted it two days ago .. since I usually watch your videos it appeared in my youtube channel and the title attracted me to watch the video

[@scottyboy9141]

Nate I’m 40 still play the game always been a gamer since I was a kid been brought up on video games, I still touch grass go gym go out with the family work full time etc but I believe the key is a balanced lifestyle, I know so many people that literally live in their bedroom on eafc spend their disposable income on fc points and it affects mental health and their future. I play 2 hours a day in the week and maybe 5 hours sat and 5 hours Sunday I grind the menus watch videos to learn moves and plays etc I’m Div 1 and an 11-14 win champs player. I trade a little and only do sbcs that fit my team and I see longevity in. I have a sick untradeable team and 4 mil liquid coins. Boycott fc points u don’t need them it’s killing the game

[@omardevonlittle3817]

You play 20 hrs a week. Nothing balanced about that lol

[@scottyboy9141]

@@omardevonlittle3817 I work I train I eat out I do a lot more than u believe me and still manage to play the game so keep ur opinions about my life to yourself when u know nothing and wouldn’t say anything to my face lad

[@cristiout]

from my point of view, you and Nick are the most honest and moral content creators of FC24 and you have the most non-toxic communities. At the same time, I think that many of the other creators are "addicted" to opening packages from the store and create and maintain this addiction. The only solution is that those who are moral and want to protest is for the store to be "banned" and to stop opening packs even with coins because those who see this and don't have coins will open with fcpoints. respect nate and nick.

[@jorge9069]

thanks to eafc he has a new house

[@WalouZhar]

First Messi and now this.. the problems with evos it saying you already have a evolved version of the card while that’s not true… ( if you ever had a evo of the same card and quicksold it / put it in a sbc it would give you this error ) been going on for such a long time but never got patched.. to many mistakes 😔

[@mc2864]

Nate don't listen to the hate at the end of the day you need to do what is best for you and you're family. As you said the better way to hurt their pockets is to not buy points anyway. But ya anyone saying you're not doing enough or attempts to make you feel bad about this decision can fuck off.

[@andrewgoldberg5742]

Great video Nate. Dreleotis here! Big W video, don’t late the (especially bc you’ve done nothing wrong) get to you.

[@vv-ec4cw]

Ok Nate I appreciate your video. Ultimately it's just sad that our love for football is in the hands of such a predatory company. They genuinely have hurt many people (often children) whether it be through the relentless pushing and peddling of gambling and store packs, or just by creating such pressure to log in every day and do objectives for fear of missing out. Combine that with greedy / lack of decency decision making (such as taking away those good red picks) and often neglected and bug filled gameplay, well we have frustration at new highs. At the end of the day I think we need the store packs to be more regulated. We need the addictive tricks they use to be lessened. We need EA to start behaving like decent human beings. I have quit the game as I have to stick to what I believe in, but I wish you all the best. 👍

[@feliperibeirofolgosi5622]

They know what are they doing. They know how the brain/mind works and they do all sorts of tricks, so you comeback for every drop of dopamine the game gives to you. You’re willing to suffer while playing this piece of garbage, just because of rewards and packs, because of dopamine drops. The game is unrewarding and the market does not feel natural anymore. They control the market totally. The best way is to find something better to do. This game only messes with your mind.

[@jeremyk3670]

Nate you and nick might have some pull with EA. You should compile a list of gameplay fixes ie 72 depth, constant pressure. They might be open to making fixes if comes from you

[@Contang0]

So happy I never spent money this year on packs. I think it's likely this was my last EA FC. It costs too much time and effort to get anywhere with UT, there's no reward for that especially if you're not that good at the game like me. I've grinded so much on this market and I accept responsibility for that wastage, but having practically given up the last several weeks, I'm not missing it. Feel quite bad for your business, because you do such a brilliant job covering this game, so I hope EA listen to criticism and take steps to make this game more fun, more rewarding and less like a complete scam.

[@MurtaMac]

Glad I gave this crap up in December. Still log in from time to time to check out your videos Nate! All the best!

[@AngyNags]

Good call Nate joining the right side (ie the community)! Any game should be ‘all’ about the community and fans instead of creators

[@robertommmin5]

First year since 2015 I didn't play FUT, haven't been happier, not frustrations on the weekends :)

[@jorgegallardo6779]

I’ve been playing red dead and having a blast hahah fuck game never again

[@adambeardown]

Cold thumbnail AGAIN

[@RolandoHamblin]

Keep it going, Nate. I became a regular viewer about half a year ago, and I personally regret not knowing these contents earlier. I myself have spent quite some money on both FIFA23 (my first fifa since 11 and the first I started playing online and be serious into trading). I truly love collecting my favorite players, the sbc and pack grinding, but at times I feel it's not enough, which pushed me into getting FC points on a regular basis. This doesn't improve my overall gameplay; my pack luck is also crap, and I feel so frustrated often times because of the gambling issues and my low playing skills. Even though money is not a problem at the moment, it can become seriously worse later on. In this regard, I decided to stop spending real money and try to improve my playing skills (so far, I've only managed to control the spending). One final note: regarding the game boycott movement, I personally think it would greatly increase the odds if professional players are involved in this. Of course, they get paid by the company, but amongst all of them at least one or two can endorse the movement, for better gaming experience and to stop the gambling. Peace out.

[@autodefence1230]

Exactly! Not spending money helps so much. Since last year (FIFA 23), I've literally only spent $10 on FIFA Points. This year I spent no money and still got 97 VVD out of an 80+pp (when prem TOTS week was out) and 96 CR7 in an 87 exchange pack yesterday! Its very very very easy to get good players if you know the right way to grind.

[@omardevonlittle3817]

You sound dumb

[@ChevyFan079]

No points and no shareplays involving points is a good compromise. I don't expect anyone to give up the bulk of their income and quit entirely.

[@mattsong7149]

I contacted my Ministry about blocking microtransactions, if they are intrested in doing this, but I havent received an answer. Nobody cares, it is a big business. The one thing that got me here was, that they dont want you to get good stuff for sacrificing your life, time and money. With one click of a button they can do it. This shows how manipulative they are, what their incentives are. In other games you buy stuff too, but younknow you give 5$ for a skin, for a gun, rifle, car or whatever. Here you give money for a casino type pack. You dont know what is inside. That is f....g shit. As for the gameplay. I was a NBA2K player. But i stopped playing because the gameplay is same for years. Zero changes. They put more emphasys on UT type mode and packs. It is the same. If you think 2K will save fifa, dont bother. They will fight with content and pack.prices, not with gameplay.

[@davidburgoa4397]

Hi Nate! Thank you for speaking up and actually addressing Nick's tweet. We all know every streamer's circumstances are different, but the fact that you actually responded with a thoughtful and clear statement, speaks volumes! My two cents to the community, and as Nick has mentioned,: let's support our streamers for who they are and what they have done to make this game bearable for the last few years. I personally had my favorite streamers as my background noise during futchamps to keep me calmed during sweaty games. I appreciate these streamers for who they are more so than for the game they play. If us, as a FIFA Community, decide to support streamers like Nate through any other game/content, they would not feel the pressure they do to play a game they probably don't enjoy all the time or as much as they did before. If Nate decides to stream a different game once a week, we could all support him with the same passion so that maybe he can also take breaks from FIFA like I believe some of us do to enjoy spending time outside with friends/family. Let's support our streamers so that their livelihood is not attached to something as negative as this game can be. Liking this video, sharing, subscribing and watching Nate's content is the easiest way to do it. Joining his streams and engaging even when the content is not EA FC related, should not be this hard. That collective effort on OUR END, as regular players, will impact positively our content creators, which in turn will have a bigger impact on EA FC 25, and that could hopefully lead to a game we can all enjoy! Let's keep it positive y'all, and THANK YOU NATE for the content!

[@ricardoesntcare]

As a European, hearing Nate, American, refer to football as football fills me with unexplainable joy.

[@whymiss3312]

It’s just a word bro same sport

[@LawlessRaafay]

I saw ur clip where you left the SharePlay coz the guy had fifa points made my day. It was nice to see you doing that man, we got to hit EA hard and we can only do that by not buying fps, all that Boycott EA wont work.

[@cisse92]

Just when I want to delete it I got blue Dembele from a pack in the season pass wasn’t even happy it because of the bug with the red picks.

[@MrCraigyou]

Last night decided to see how much it would cost to buy EVERYTHING yes EVERYTHING from the store. 150000 points needed at over £1000. With EA play £950 all figures are approximate. But very very close.

[@jay-qw5df]

Normally I spend £100/£200 every year on packs and point not a huge amount but on top of the £100 spent for the game it's still a fair amount for a game... This year I have refused to spend a single penny on points or packs this company this game is a joke the game is genuinely just not fun anymore. I don't understand how they are allowed to essentially run an online casino with no fixed odds or returns they can just change drop rates or whatever they want whenever they want without even so much as informing the person who is basically gambling at their casino... and they do all this with no independent oversight or government rules or regulations real casinos have to follow somehow they get away with it because it's packaged as a "football game" blows my mind how it's allowed to continue and get worse year after year

[@TroyAshley]

When you realize this game is an incomplete mess of a game it’s easy to not spend your money on points . I haven’t spent in months and I’m still competing at my skill level , I’m still beating teams with the best cards

[@ired2956]

Ea are literally holding peoples love for football ransom for profit. You grind all year and can’t get any of the cards you actually want, hopefully a new decent football game comes soon

[@coop9191]

Love not sharing anything with FC points, that’s the right way to do it🎉. Before we even talk about “gameplay” we should be fixing the gameplay environment, stable online gameplay and getting all the DC / in-game quitting fixed. If we aren’t playing the game online the way it’s intended we can’t start talking about what’s wrong with actual gameplay

[@hambino8611]

Massive W you are big enough to make a difference. Love your content and your message I will stand with you and Nick

[@hambino8611]

Share the message from our region! Kentucky for once stands with Indiana

[@joeythielen7698]

I’m crippling addicted to buying fifa points and I’m 23 years old. We all need to make the change by not spending money and come together as a group to push and support eachother while not buying fifa points

[@ryanengland5571]

Nice one Nate. A stand against fifa points / gambling with real life coins is a great starting point. If all content creators discourage this it can only be a positive thing. I do not spend real money on this game & I never will. You have my full support with this message to EA. Gameplay needs to be tackled as a separate issue.

[@robertmcdermott7978]

Nate your integrity is intact you are helping people not spend money on game that's why guys like me who came back to the fifa series in fifa 22 I played pro evolution since 2003 till then.we can male the change by definitely not buying fc points and learning from the best like yourself we need to work together as a community as a whole .communication is key to promote a collective response to enhance everyone's views towards fc24 and new titles moving forwards.i will help you no problem my friend I played all fifa games from the start so I've got a lot of views to improve things with help from creators to bring new fc games working for everyone involved in a more positive position.GREED IS ISSUE IRRADIATE THIS ISSUE TOGETHER POSITIVELY.

[@izlit3599]

I’m so happy I hope this makes a change I drop EA 24 months ago every time I played it broke a controller but this EA 24 is absolutely hands down the worst game I have ever touched in my life taking $100 for the ultimate pre order was actual robbery

[@samueloxley8545]

Ye how they made the hero cards so OP in 23 then got everyone to pre order for that garantee & then made them rubbish I got Beasley 😂

[@drh3584]

Glad you made this video and clarified your thoughts Nate, I was considering my long term subscription with you but ggs… you keep my respect 👍🏽

[@876NERDGEEK]

Thanks Nate for being one of the ones who’s speaking to EA

[@eancafaro5315]

Thank you for actually speaking out and using your platform to fight for change… I always knew you were the goat Nate!

[@UTxTheArchangel]

The thing seemingly a number of ppl don't understand is its not easy for content creators to just stop making content around a given game. For the viewers their tunnel vision tells them its easy. But whats being asked if for someone to stop working. Imagine just not going to work for a 9 to 5 job...you won't be able to pay your bills, feed your family, keep a roof over your head. And you'd be fired. Can content creators be fired? Not in the literal sense. But by not playing the game, not making content around it, you can't pay your bills, can't feed your family, etc. And to a degree it won't even matter bc a lot of viewers will move onto someone else who is still streaming the game or making content. Not every creator can just make content for a different game.

[@connorembretson2368]

Totally agree that people should not spend money on FC points. Its never worth it. They are such a scam. It’s maybe worse then going to an actual casino! It’s far more enjoyable to do an RTG or to do trading, like yourself. if you really want to, just use coins on some store packs, if you see a pack you really want to open. Exchange packs, season progress rewards, and cup rewards have made it pretty easy to grind the game this year. The biggest thing I’ve been disappointed with EA this year, is that they’ve turned down the pack weight on promo cards so much and tried to focus so much on store packs, instead of gameplay

[@bruin313]

Like they say you can’t please everybody. Keep doing what you’re doing, from the time I started watching you, you’ve always been clear, you praise the game when it does something right and you call the crap when they f up. People are just at the breaking point and looking for anything to just point their frustrations at and unfortunately content creators and random people are taking the hits. Honesty wins out, so just keep being you. Thanks for all the content creators.

[@bresoccercards6461]

Nate: EA don’t tell us what to say. MattHD: EA told me not to post anything critical about the game. I know who I believe.

[@jamminmonkey100]

I got tired of passing the ball to the opponent 😔 i get so upset for no reason, I am just too competitive. I hope one day everything gets fixed

[@rehanalam5302]

The main problem is we are spending in fifa points. I am a jobholder & playing this game for 7 years spending 0 penny. Creates my RTG team which is weak & wins only 6 games in champs. But I never ever had spent rather I spent on my family. We need to be content what team we are making. They are whole lot of skillful players in our community so we dont need to get the top players all the time. Ea is taking this advantage from us & we need to understand that. Please stop spending 🙏

[@craigwilliams6049]

Tbf Nate’s got it right the ONLY way change can be made, is hitting EAs pocket directly. The single greatest way that’s possible is to not purchase FC Points. Hit their margins directly, they’ll only stand up and be counted provided their quarterly returns dip….. but they need to dip massively. This is one of those ‘sliding doors’ moments, if we don’t collectively take it, it’ll will pass and we’ll likely not get the chance again. Here’s to hoping we can all move forward together. May the odds be in our favour 👌

[@tobygrantham7215]

Nate I know you’re an EA partner or were an EA partner but I truly believe you’re a good guy. I hope we can at least try to get some change from EA because we are and have been treated like literal trash for years by this company.

[@Paul-hc2zj]

I packed 96 chawinga tots from 80 + player pick last night . Alfonso Davies from guarantee tots pack last week .and declan rice from guaranteed tots pack no complaints here

[@martinmamone7553]

the one and only one thing that will fix this is a new game from a competitor. They have the monopoly of football video games. Fifa and 2K need to come ultra strong and hire some of those EA folks that got cut and deliver a game soon

[@FutFut12345]

If we made a dent in the points buying aspect they would just make the packs in the store even better. I’m not sure it can be stopped tbh

[@kam8599]

Much respect Nate, we can’t expect you to give up the way that you provide for your family

[@Joseme1061]

" Unintended results " really took away the excitement of playing.

[@ErranDrone]

Thank you TFA for committing to stop showing store packs with FC points. I’ve always purchased the game with Microsoft points and have never spent a real dollar on EA. We can do this!!!

[@Boxingfan-mg8mf]

Too late he juat showed is he pulled a tots Mbappe out of a store pack. Most of us don't have 11 million coins off of trading like him so we have to buy fc points to get a chance of packing the tots Mbappe he flexes in our face every chance he can get. He is promoting store packs

[@lukalili17]

Bravo Nate for calling out these EA scammers! And totally understandable that you can't just quit the game. This is central for you and you definitely deserve better!

[@user-bz8re7nz8j]

I mean I wouldn’t quit if I had pulled Mbappe as well 😒, I got freaking rank 2 and got the freaking gk, and the 94 rated cf that is being constantly thrown at us. Honestly I am truly getting the feeling that all the content creators are being given cards that are never given to others because they are at the center of attention

[@13guns87]

I love this fifa. I've been playing since 1995. I needed a break, played some cracking games for once. Game so bad I left not long after tots. I still play some games every week, but took a break for a few months. I'm gone from hard-core to casual lol.

[@Noeliam85]

My biggest frustration about this weekends situation is that not all players were afforded the same odds and opportunities on their rewards. I can take getting more wins than someone and getting worse picks as it's the luck of the draw. I woke up Saturday to see this issue and only got Donarumma and Medina. The night before free wins were being given away left right and centre whilst rewards were cracked. Ea should have just taken the L and left it for all players as now future champs are impacted with loads of people running Dembele, Zaire Emery and Mbappe.

[@stevey666666]

Full respect Nate, EA need to be held accountable. How in the world do EA get away with providing the servers they do, given people actually spent large money to buy the product ? Fortnite get it right, COD, even old H1Z1 got it right, why why why can EA not provide servers that work, enough servers, 120 fps, quality control by stopping these errors, modern NetCode for connection protocols, it’s just incredible, jaw dropping that somehow this product exists in the broken beta that is clear to all who play daily. Consumer accords across the world protect people who purchase products that should work as advertised and this game is SO far short of that minimum standard, leaves me incredulous. It’s 2024 where other companies instantly respond to user feedback to improve their game, ethically other companies take pride in their product and their player experience, these charlatans must be held to account. Cheers Nate Steve from Australia

[@AFC.1886]

They need to fix the game to make it similar to how it was in previous years in 3 areas - - Glitches - Gameplay - Store packs/ pay to win aspect Then they need to improve the game with things like - Better compensation for things like downtimes - Make the game more community based where it feels like we have a choice in things like who gets an sbc using votes - They need to change everything about duplicates and make a duplicate pile sort of thing where we can store a certain amount of duplicates in the actual game rather than having to quick sell players and go onto a separate app to get them back - They should add a thing where we can decide who goes into the box at corners and who comes short rather than it being random - some more stuff I can’t think of atm

[@balkanequestrian8780]

One thing needs to be addressed as well and that is the fact that the community has never been so horrible like this year. Yes, EA is giving us rat mechanics, but people are abusing it more than ever. I don't remember when I played a game against a normal opponent. I am a DIV1 player and God it was sweaty to get there without the controlled sprint and cutbacks and glitched passes and greedy... on top of that, many pro players, streamers, youtubers are promoting this behavior even in their content. EA IS JUST CREATING WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS LOOKING FOR

[@asma7065]

I would like to blame the community too but the problem is abusing those mechanics are like 90% the only way to score in this trash game ! The game is so broken and AI so powerful people can do nothing

[@Davion474]

I pre ordered FC24 and only played it once. After fifa 23 I was done. This pay to win model had put me off dealing with EA as a company. Last year i spent nearly £800 on in game content. Never again.

[@Neko-cf1po]

Please don’t buy FC 25 presale so they can feel it as a protest from the community and may be they will work on server if they feel a bit of heat.

[@lolmeercatz10]

Honestly Nate i've stayed subbed to your channel for the day I hopefully come back to FIFA but this is the first FIFA since 2007 that I haven't bought (I was pes before that lol), even last year I caved into the sales, but no this year I stayed true and haven't bought the game, it's one of the only games I can think of that has strayed so far from the one I used to love, just not like it used to be and it's been a steady decline since about 2018/19 I'd say. It's just become too complexed and focused on grinding out challenges (which there are too many of), and it's too easy to have a ridiculous team, do you remember how insane it was to pack a special card 8 or 9 years ago, it was something you would literally share with people online it was that insane, now everyone has every card from the beginning of the game and it's boring, completely killed it in my opinion. You shouldn't regularly see insane 90+ teams until TOTS at least, we now see them before Christmas. Such a shame honestly it kills me. The worst thing is that I don't see how they can go back to how it was now, it's too far gone, we need a real rival game really. I think in a dream world where EA came out and marketed the next game as "back to basics" and that it would be harder to get a good team and you'd have to play games and save coins to get that one player for a position that you want or buy packs to boost and speed up the process with WAYYYYY lower pack weights like they were in 2015 for example, I think such news would be received well, but they won't do that.

[@user-xb9nf3bx5o]

Nate the games pack weight is very bad and its on purpose so you open store packs. personally i grind the menus for fodder i am not that good at trading not that good at champs but with the fodder i gain from grinding squad battles objectives i expect sth good from sbc upgrade packs but no EA is so greedy the dont want you to have fun at all . Its all about spending money in the store in order for you to pack a decent player.

[@thatoneguyadrian7242]

W video and perspective Nate very well said and hope we can actually bring upon a change just for the better 💯