The Dream of the Internet

[@citrusjuicebox]

9:26 I would like to share a story. I wrote a speech for class in 6th grade challenging copyright and defending piracy, specifically questioning publishers' claims to lost profits to themselves and damages to artists. The audience of teachers and parents was not happy to hear it. I was pressed to rewrite it into an essay arguing the opposite or I'd fail the class that semester. The teacher thought she was already being generous and my parents thoroughly chewed me out afterwards. Their collective argument was that "theft is theft," "law is law," and I can't possibly have the faculties to argue against those "facts" as an eleven-year-old. Not a good lesson to try to teach to a child, and especially ironic given the assignment was to write a speech "questioning the status quo." I was very bitter about how this turned out for a few years: that I had to betray myself, wasn't permitted to do more research, not allowed present stronger arguments, or couldn't even just be taken seriously. The lesson I actually learned was the status quo is strong, because those who think it serves them will defend it to their deaths. And that the ideas and institutions that resist questioning are probably worth questioning the most. Thinking back on it, this incident turned out to be a very formative experience for me. I'd always been a curious kid--as most children are--but it was this event that taught me to engage with ideas critically. Thank you, copyright, for showing me first just how wrong things can be.

[@05Matz]

I can't use the words on this platform to describe how hopelessly, violently hateful that anecdote made me feel towards the people who did that to you, especially when your were only a kid and your future seemed (and maybe was) completely beholden to their whims. Thank you for 'questioning the status quo' in exactly the way the authorities in your life didn't want you to. I suppose that's the only real meaningful kind! And thanks for sharing your story.

[@citrusjuicebox]

@@05Matzthank you for the kind words. I'm in my 30's now and I hope to never lose my empathy in the ways that my adults did then.

[@citrusjuicebox]

@@chillbro1010 thank you! I've been called "weird" plenty and I always took it in stride.

[@personnemay2692]

They really just went. "Question the status quo. Wait, no stop, you are actually questioning the status quo that's not cute, you dumb 11 years old. praise it right this second or suffer the consequences of stepping out of line"

[@acetrigger1337]

When the subject is "the status quo" most people think it is all about "fight the power!" when in reality you are just drowning in a sea of denial made of people that profit from it.

[@EggBastion]

_"almost like it wasn't about paying artists fairly in the first place"_

[@Halucygeno]

"Allegedly really awesome" has to be the funniest way to cover your bases while endorsing something illegal. As always, fantastic work. Preach.

[@OlgaZuccati]

"You know that it's illegal to go out there and say something like 'I really think that SciHub is awesome'?"

[@Ellipsis115]

A channel I aspire to feed the attention eccomy like, or at least feed it less than I other wise could much like this channel?

[@Jvirus2]

“Here’s a very good test for whether some idea is just a fictional utopia: does it require everyone to peacefully give up their power? If it does, then you’re doomed.” Very very well said.

[@theeyeofomnipotent]

"A civilization where each member can destroy the whole civilization, but chose not to" from an utilitarian perspective this is a heck of an unstable system, but i think this is a better utopia hehe, It is also questions where utilitarianism is intrinsically good in the first place... theres a reason why psycopaths usually only judge from the utilitarian perspective... their values are lacking, they don't feel bad things, they don't fully comprehend us and only see from what we do with them, they're risk takers but a terrible caster of a fulfilling society hehe CEOs has the most psycophaty out of many jobs i think, the source is in another of his video (he source it from the times), may explain their actions Have a fulfilling day stranger

[@inkdragon3455]

Id 100% rather pay 5$ to an author for a copy of their book than pay 5$ to a publisher for a book.

[@arostwocents]

In reality without half the costs, things should actually be cheaper..instead they're more expensive 🤔🧐

[@vocodedporridge6722]

14:25 „stealing is the first step in making something new” it’s satisfying that you used such strong wording. The schizophrenic denial of the fact that all creative work iterates on prior work, is the foundation of current copyright law and it needs to be rejected. Great video as always!

[@JimmyMcG33]

If copyright was invented before language, nobody would be allowed to talk lol. The law is nuts.

[@jameso2290]

Here's a fun thought. Imagine if if the concept of Fire was privately owned. Lighting one candle using another candle would be considered piracy - illegal fire copying. It's not just that copyright is an absurd concept in relation to computers, but the very notion of "property" can not be applied to ephemeral phenomena. Computers and the Internet are not just the mechanical and tangible parts they inhabit, but also the ever changing continual flow of electrons in increasingly complex systems. If you cut the global electric supply all at once somehow, "the internet" and all digital media itself ceases to exist. But fortunately, much like fire, electricity can be practically summoned from thin air. You can generate it from rubbing your socks on carpet. The notion of trying to put a fence around "ideas" or "patterns of electricity" and calling that "property" is as ridiculous as claiming you "own" the particular shapes of flames bursting from your backyard campfire because you created them. The fire may exist within your property lines, but the fire itself is not your property - you can not own "fire."

[@Hennesg]

@@JimmyMcG33 Yet in your newest video you made copyright a big argument against AI systems. Dont you think its its a bit problematic to switch positions on such a specific topic based on the argument you want to make? I like both videos btw and think you do great content but saying "stealing is the first step in making something new" in one case and "AI only steals to remix stuff into 'new' content thats actually void of anything original" is a bit contradictary?

[@Aaron565]

Its fairly clear digital information had no mechanism to monitor changes, enforce ownership or verify uniqueness before bitcoin, however today it is now technically feasible, which despite the author's opinion is an increase in efficiency. Consensus networks make censorship less feasible overall which enables unrestricted information availability. Crypto is not DRM enabling in the same manner the internet is not DRM enabling. In short, discounting crypto as a solution is avoiding the literal technical solution to consensus.

[@Mitchell_is_smart._You2bs_dumb]

​@@JimmyMcG33I second hennesg. "computers are made for remixing" is another line from this video that seems pertinent. your content is fantastic though, and I can definitely send hours listening

[@Lumenbell]

16:03 An artist I respect a lot said something recently that I thought did a great job articulating how I've always felt about this subject: "i think with indie stuff in particular ppl treat spending money as a gesture of encouragement/goodwill/wanting to see a work continue etc rather than a transaction of product to consumer." A lot of arguments about the supposed immorality of piracy I think come from a pretty flimsy position of consumers attempting to justify their own inability to discern the difference between spending money on independently published art vs art that is owned and distributed by massive, anti-consumer (and anti-artist) publishing corporations. In my mind there's no reason to ever waste $70 on buying a new AAA game knowing that none of the people who actually made the game will see any of my money, but I'll gladly pay above the asking price for an indie game I love knowing that it directly supports the people who created it. Hopefully as corporate greed becomes more and more blatant it will open more people's eyes to the difference, and they can stop feeding their money into a soulless machine and direct it towards their fellow humans instead. Also great video, the visuals were a lot of fun! Despite the pretty depressing subject matter. The Touhou doujin game looked fun.

[@RouxColdMilk]

Part of it too is, no file is worth 70 dollars...

[@GirlypopShotgun]

"This video contains spoilers for Hachette v. Internet Archive" gold

[@JimmyMcG33]

Surprise video! All sources are available at c00lzone.neocities.org. I normally don't do this but I want to beat people to the punch here: AI scraping is not an argument in favour of digital copyright. AI companies already got away with scraping art under current, very restrictive copyright laws. Making it a crime to train AI on data collected non-consensually is the answer to the AI problem, and locking everything down *even more* will not solve anything. edit: I'm trying to come up with an efficient way to subtitle my videos, I hope these are satisfactory or at least better than KZbin's automatic ones. My process is semi-automatic, so there will be mistakes that I miss but I think 99% correct text and proper pacing should make the videos better for those who need or want subtitles.

[@JimmyMcG33]

Oh and if this video makes you want to revisit your old games/Windows XP, get VirtualBox 6.0.x or lower, newer versions don't let you do 3d acceleration and barely anything runs.

[@savyblizzard6481]

I may be stupid and missing it but do you cite the music anywhere? edit: i missed where it was posted in the notepad at the end since I was looking at the link in the post above. Thanks Jimmy!

[@noxxyy]

cool video, cool vm, and cool game choices. 5/5 would subscribe again. keep being cool!

[@Dowlphin]

It is bad enough and underlining the widespread outlawdom that rules the system that 'public' / 'non-profit' science projects using public data can just be converted into business endeavors. That's an illegal transfer of data; a change of licensing base.

[@RemnantCult]

I know what prompted the creation of this video and it's been giving me insane anxiety. What are we gonna do when the internet stops being the information highway? I pray that none of my worst fears comes into fruition, no matter the cynicism I may have in my heart.

[@JimmyMcG33]

All we can do is adapt, really. Or start visiting judges and politicians at their homes and politely asking for them to represent their constituents. In the mean time, IPFS is a recent breakthrough that lets people share files with plausible deniability, and there are some peer-to-peer services that are still good for sharing files. They've tried to stop people from sharing for like three decades now, and I think any solution that ends filesharing would also kill the internet (or at least the internet as a generally popular social space, I'm sure we'd still do online banking or whatever). And if they drive us all offline... well, maybe people will start noticing more of the tangible problems out there.

[@RemnantCult]

@@JimmyMcG33 I'd hope that, knock on wood, if the worst comes to worst, people will resist physically. However, I noticed that people tend to just say "oh well" and adapt. I am thinking way too far into the proposed future, though. Right now, we must protect digital libraries.

[@dannadx3840]

Pirate radio stations have existed for as long as radiocommunications did. You would really just have to know where to look and what to do. Unless goverment will physically disconnect you from the content you wish to access, there will always be a way. Look at the great chinese firewall, and look how many people easily bypass it right now. Just remember that law is not some sort of frightening dogma made by people above, but a tool, and if you'll play your cards right, you won't get in trouble.

[@drifter402]

We've basically lost everything good about the social aspect now that it's centralised and fully succumbed to international censorship

[@Dowlphin]

@@JimmyMcG33 No, we can do potentially anything. First we need to identify what addresses the root problem and then act accordingly whenever possible, which it is a lot more often than people claim it is. Technology cannot save us from the control grid, because it is an expression of the very fear driving a troubled system - a power trip of externalized, borrowed power, thus easy to take away, control and centralize.

[@onomi-]

I’m like the sniper from Disco Elysium but with open libraries, my spiteful ass will be archiving shit till the end of time

[@yurifairy2969]

Piracy is a moral duty at this point

[@superbro6413]

You knocked it out of the park with this one The b-roll (or a-roll in this case) is simply ingenious too It's funny how talking while showing off your desktop was viewed as lower effort even back in 2008, but seeing Windows XP (at least I think it's XP) being used in your neat presentation way is really quite impactful Thanks and see you in the next one!

[@AstralDragn]

its freaking crazy to see windows XP, I wonder how functional it is nowadays in our digital biosphere. I recall it being exceptionally robust for me all the way to 2012 when i finally moved on. I can note that its exceptionally old looking programs he's using so I assume not very well supported anymore.

[@jam99]

@@AstralDragn The word "supported" has never been so ambiguous as with software.

[@lulu4882]

just missing the Unregistered Hypercam 2 watermark in the corner

[@JustAnotherSomeDude]

This is the reason I program. Licensing and copyright is unbelievably predatory, the internet is being pushed more heavily with censorship and laws every year. Luckily the Internet Archive has won cases in courts in the past, although somehow when the case is against a major publisher they always lose the case... (suspicious? I think not.) Point being, I learned to program to get around these laws and policies, and to whoever reads this, I can only hope you take those steps to "legally" get around these rules too. Don't just sit and let it happen.

[@05Matz]

I admire your spirit. I became enamoured with computers at an early age and went to university for a Bachelor's in computer science, but as I've learned more about society and the way it interacts with computing I've lost my passion, and can feel nothing but dread for the future -- I can't figure out a way to work with the machines I love without participating in systems of oppression I hate even more -- even as an individual avoiding complicity while enjoying even a little of modern comforts seems impossible, but even more-so looking to find a career without supporting evil. So I've never got a job in the field and just been... adrift since school. I don't know how I'm going to pay off the student loans; find the 'good jobs' my education can supposedly be redeemed for, purchase a house, or all of those things my (of a certain aging generation) parents insist I'm "just inevitably going to do". At least I'm not in the USA, there I'd be truly and permanently screwed. Here in Canada things are much better (so far), even in the furthest-right, most-backward, fastest-backsliding part of it. The one job I had and found greatly satisfying (part time during university) was what many would call 'menial' work for a public library, but I feel even they are being driven to extinction under the onslaught of rent-seeking mega-corporations and the laws they buy; feeling forced to make moral compromises like supporting publisher 'digital lending' systems that ever-more-efficiently extract their limited funding while depleting their collections (as they consume acquisitions budget and give nothing back to the libraries they can actually own and keep into the future) until nothing remains. I understand that maintaining good morale in the face of injustice is important, but I find it extremely difficult. I hope you keep up the good fight and prosper!

[@theeyeofomnipotent]

​@@05Matz wanna try framework? Hehe idk,

[@hadrianmerced]

i've always had trouble reconciling two beliefs i have, which is that i don't think intellectual property should exist but i do think artists should be paid for their work. it's clear that the current structure of IP law exists to benefit rent seeking dipshits above all else, but it's hard to know what a viable solution could look like. anyway, great vid, keep up the good work

[@AstralDragn]

Its like he said in the video, really, though, artists, creators, can be paid for their work and get credit for it, but we don't need copyright law as it currently stands to achieve that. The problem is, so long as creators need another force to broadcast their work, private publishers will always want protections like that. Now imagine if the government could be incentivised to play as publisher. It might be worse, it might be better, but as it currently stands, I think its the most likely path in the current iteration of law that'd make the internet archive survive as it is today.

[@Darkness890wasd]

christ, beyond the great script, such a incredible presentation

[@subzerox2324]

Publishers finding new ways to make things simultaneously harder to acquire and pay their artists/authors even less than they were previously is a disappointing, but ultimately, predictable outcome. Love your content as always! A surprise to see two uploads from you in quick succession, but a welcome one.

[@Nacalal]

That entire section on software hit the nail on the head. I work with computers for 90% of my day, and have for over a decade. I've never had to pay for software other than video games. Somehow, the software I use still gets written, costs nothing, and does the job just fine.

[@RaceProducer11]

Yeah exactly, one thing I was thinking too while watching the video is how programmers can earn money in a way similar to how commissioned artists make money. It doesn't matter if the end result ends up being free for everyone because there is still value in being paid to create a brand new work in accordance to a non-skilled person's specific instructions. It's why software developers can be paid so much money to produce code that ends up being open source and free for anyone to use without explicit permission, even for commercial purposes (MIT license), because it's writing code to solve a problem in the first place that has the value worth paying for, not the ability to sell the code or result

[@d_yss8461]

Nice to see the Adam Curtis in here. I appreciate what you take from his style and what you bring to it. Coziest videos on the site.

[@DoDo-ve6ef]

I really don't have too much to add as a comment, but I've been following your videos ever since the first rain world guided tour and your videos have always been a delight to see on my subscription tab You definitely deserve infinitely more subscribers for how insanely well polished your content is, and I'm hoping you get the recognition you deserve soon enough!!

[@CiggySnake]

Quality video and coverage as always Jimmy. Recent events/threats to the internet are disconcerting to say the least, another effort in the long string of attempts to stifle/censor the medium. I guess this is something we'll just have to deal with every four or five years where these internet illiterate politicians actively try and make the world more bleak and disappointing. Also Super Monkey Ball 2 music good.

[@JimmyMcG33]

Maybe if things get bad enough we can all larp as cyberpunk matrix guys. Glad to hear your thoughts, as always.

[@CiggySnake]

@@JimmyMcG33 We'll be out here hacking the Gibson left right and center, only the Gibson is just a repository of scientific papers gatekept by Elsevier.

[@ZestyMcLime]

I've watched this and your original Rain World video in full. You provide such concise explanations of things that I spend ages ruminating on and provide sources and context when I'm mostly working off intuition. Blown away by your insight and presentation. Also I cracked up when the Fassad happy box music came on during that speech, hilarious because of the content and relevant because the publishing status of the game itself.

[@real100thfloor]

This is the last video I have to watch on your channel for now, and although I'm not much of a comment-leaver, I need to say your style is amazing. It's rare(er than I would like) for me to find channels with this quality of writing, and that's something that I value a lot. When I started watching I thought maybe it was just your reading voice, but it's more than that. Your style reminds me a lot of David Foster Wallace's essays. It's funny, you even sort of verbally punctuate in the same way, but in-fast forward because it's a youtube video. Thanks for making videos.

[@MarvinRB3]

From the perspective of the author/musician/artist, the problem with open distribution is that it requires blind trust. Bookshops work because, if a person wants to read a book, they need to pay for it. There is an explicit connection between readership and reimbursement. Newspapers and magazines work for the same reason, albeit with different pricing models. Even the greatest open source project in history (Linux) is only able to distribute freely because it has corporate sponsors that fund the core development. Firefox has a donation button, but almost all of its core revenue comes from a deal with Alphabet that pays to make Google the default search engine. I agree with much of what you said about copyright, but I don't think "add a donate button" is sufficient.

[@GNeves302]

Great video and it doesn't even get into the laughable reality of the oligopoly of academic publishers who do basically no work, have close to no cost and then profit out of research, more often than not financed by public funding, which proceeds to be locked behind outrageous pay walls. If democracy is to be anything more than an empty buzzword, access to knowledge must be universal.

[@DroCaMk3]

Found your channel through the AI revolution video and started watching a lot of your older stuff. I can't believe you only have 20k subscribers, you're doing absolutely stellar work! Love the depth and the calm and eloquent presentation. Keep on doing what you're doing!

[@reid4625]

I love the style of the video, just fucking around a Windows XP desktop and bringing up relevant stuff every now and then

[@THEMithrandir09]

The fact that the world runs on open-source software, many of who's developers do make a living off it, shows that sharing everything for free can work in the real world. If you provide value, somebody will be willing to pay you to keep providing that value. Art could be created after getting crowdfunding, then making it available for free for everyone.

[@snaximundar]

When I read "Princess Pitch" I wasn't expecting a Smash TV clone. Solid information despite the dismal subject matter. Here's hoping the appeal gets more attention.

[@colderthanbefore]

love your vids - don't know what makes me stank-face worse, the crazy based D&B backing tracks, or my unfiltered rage against modern bureaucratic structures

[@bzizman4648]

Dude, you playing those old game maker games on windows xp took me so far back, i cant believe someone else rembers those, they were so fun and a significant part of my being into games and gamedev and i didnt know you could even get your hands on those anymore

[@hubee2407]

9:36 "What I want to give you instead is an argument to the end of Copyright has we know it" I thought this video was just going to be a rehash of Uniquenameosaurus's copyright video (Really good btw). But upon hearing that line I got fucking chills man. This is what I've been saying for years but artists keep on blinding themselves to who copyright is really built for. I haven't seen the rest of the video yet but I just know its going to be a treat. Great work as always

[@hubee2407]

Honestly I just realized how far the internet has regressed. Kinda just makes me wanna curl up and die. But I guess "Fighting for things you want" works as well. the hard part is finding out how

[@05Matz]

Similar feelings here, and similar feelings of dread and defeat over the issue. @@hubee2407 I guess all I can say is, stay strong. Where there's life there's hope. I don't see a lot of promise in the future, but I guess that just means I've got to outlive the period I can foresee, right? And maybe my despair-addled catastrophising about the current trends _isn't_ even an accurate picture of the downfall or crisis or... just maybe even _reform?_ to be seen in the near future, and I can try to hold on to that uncertainty as a form of hope? I dunno what I'm trying to say. I just want to find a way to move out of the 'curl up and die' and towards the 'fighting' mindset, myself. I guess it's a constant struggle, one day at a time. I hope you're doing well, yourself!

[@bingoccolon]

the use of The Peddler's Grand Speech here was artfully done. another wonderfully dreary yet hopeful classic from you. many thanks for all you do!!

[@auslegungssache]

this video was incredibly good and im so happy someone finally said this in such a well formulated video!

[@Yoshiyosh]

good video. you put a lot of what I was thinking into a nice easily sharable video presented in a funnily unique way. It's like looking at a vocal mirror of my mind. I've been using and uploading to the internet archive for a few years now, and while I fear for its long-term future, I remain hopeful myself. p.s. naked flames in the playlist that's my goat

[@lordofzooprog]

Genuinely the greatest videos on modern YT never stop

[@ollyyyyyyyyy1352]

love the music choice for this one, recognised several that either sample copyrighted stuff or are heavily associated with copyright-flaunting works (barkley gaiden in particular stood out)

[@kylebuffington7673]

Genuinely one of the best video essays I’ve ever seen. Would love to see you revisit this in the future!

[@elnegromatapacos162]

This video is joining my canon on important critique of copyright, together with Patricia Taxxon's the Golden Calf series.

[@badassserbboy7135]

I love argument where companies say they are losing money with internet piracy, but forget i wouldnt even buy a product cuz i had no money for it in first place

[@grahamnaismith1791]

Well it's over for the archive now sadly...

[@rezganger]

i watched hypernormalization on the archive,my self! the archive is very important,but i dont like that courts can charge them to take stuff down. and some of the links in my library,on the archive,were removed by the archive. but it contributes more good than bad,by a long shot. thanks for sharing.

[@grejsancoprative]

Another interesting thing to consider; sites like Netflix could open up their entire libary world wide for everyone to view anywhere, but I bet VPN companies would push heavily against that cause that would go against 70% of their selling point if you listen to the people promoting that. A tragic irony to say the least.

[@Malrodin]

If you think about it the random game footage in the background serves the same purpose as subway surfers does in a tiktok

[@tukushtacos2518]

omg this reminds me of when radioheads contract w their record label was over and for about 2 or 3 weeks they pre released their new album in rainbows for digital download at any price you wished to pay even if it was nothing. the whole industry at the time from artists to magazine publications all said how dumb and that even though fans couldve downloaded it legally 60 to 70 percent still chose illegal downloads claiming it backfired. in a few weeks at the time the pay as you wish offer was over that album had became so popular it hit uk billboard charts 1 album and was already their most profitable album all this before the actual release date where people could now purchase physical and digital copies at set prices

[@dietpravd4]

Incredible work Jimmy! Your research is so thorough and you're such a compelling speaker. So excited to see you make more stuff.

[@nonbuddy]

Excellent and extremely thoughtful piece as always, Jimmy. Unrelated to the topic at hand, it tickled me to see Naked Flames on the playlist. I love his stuff

[@CaboosePootis]

Dropping everything. Jimmy McGee episode

[@thatmanjames1647]

Was super excited to see a new video so soon! Too bad it filled me with dread lol I hope the researching for your next video is going well.

[@necromech_]

i love this video so much, your reasoning, delivery, and editing is amazing. "the marketplace at work." is such an amazingly succinct line. i'll be sure to rewatch this for the hundredth time next week.

[@kennethhymes9734]

I have started putting all my music on the archive. The player and art layout are very flexible once you get the hang of it. The view counters are basically broken, but whatevs. It has worked well for me, giving people QR cards with the page art, and being able to change the mixes, add new material, whenever and however.

[@martyp7401]

Awesome, thankyou!❤ This deserves way more views. I'm terrible with words and struggle to articulate myself often. But can i say that i feel this in a deeper, more meaningful way? It is very comforting.

[@leftovernoise]

The second about drm and needing a physical manual to access the game. I remember on the original xwing you needed to decode some star wars letters using the manual. Well, I was 7 and fucking stupid and even running games through dos was a bit much for me at that point. Once I finally got the game to run, if I couldn't find the manual, I just couldn't play that day. Twice, I couldn't play because the pages I needed had been ripped out by our dog. Good times

[@fearlesspotato3429]

Thanks for make me feel better for the 1100 songs, 53 games, 30 books and 2000 artworks I've pirated... So far.

[@noriringtail7428]

Copyright has never helped the creators of anything, even physical. The reality of copyright is that whoever has the most money can ultimately do what they want- so if somebody got rich off your creation, you have absolutely no recourse within this system.

[@paydaygh9388]

The problem piracy piracy fixes is not just free stuff, but access to stuff. AKA, convenience. When ITunes allowed you to buy just one song so you didn’t need to buy a whole album, and later Spotify letting you listen to anything, music piracy nearly ceased because of how easy (and cheap) it is to obtain music legally now.

[@splattie_]

Amazing, really educational-- genuinely improved my outlook on copyright and media in general. Thanks so much again, Jimmy.

[@PCGamer1732]

This live presentation format/style using Win XP is cool af

[@TheELASESINADOR]

For thousands of years, humanity has been progressing at slow pace on both fields of technology and society, which has allowed for long periods of static economic and power hierarchies. Some could even say that this is part of our DNA due to how long it could be traced back. However, these last three centuries have broken the norm with faster and faster technology discovery and development, making apparent that society ruling, morals and everything that composes the masses lack the speed to addapt to the new technologies. When a worker can be substituted by a machine that works faster at lower cost, the company doesn't think twice to execute the change since the world we live in is a capitalistic competition of "who makes more money?". Don't get me wrong, we should change workers by machines due to increased efficience and that's what tecnology is for, to allow everyone lifes to be easier and better. But then, what happens when the technology not only can replace the worker, but also the company? They make the rules to defend their power and to maintain the status quo, change the narrative to control the masses, and who knows to what extend some may go (conflict, wars, nothing good). On the same line, workers can unionize to defend their position, since the individual also lives in competition to survive but at the end, technology breaks through no matter what. Whether it may be worker or company, technology seem to prevail and continue to strive not matter how slow society addapts. But, why does society go so slow compared to technology? Easy answer, technology only needs one person to discover or invent something, others will steal, learn, replicate, and there you have rapid expansion, thanks in part due to the competitive nature of society. Society in contrast, masses are slow in learning and are easily manipulated by those that are in the top of society, be it governments or companies due to their long reach. All these patches in form of legislation and continuous confrontation against that 0.01% in power is costly game, making evident that a change on society foundations is on due. Competitive capitalism brings greatness if power increase is limited to those most rich, otherwise situations like this one with copyright will repeat again and again, and that's the next thing we need to find a solution to. Guarantee that the best outcome can be achieved over those in power and without stepping on those in need. Sorry for the thesis. Videos like these always set me to think too much and always thought in sharing it if anyone finds it compelling. Hope the best for the archive sector but those against it will never stop. It is in their nature, as it is in ours.

[@Wagon_Lord]

Good comment

[@toriitoraa]

The presentation on this is top notch. Amazing video as always

[@Caffeinedemons]

You’re easily my new favorite KZbin channel! Thank you for these videos I hope to see more before the internet becomes prison

[@moliomotiejus6412]

Daddy Jimmy is back again! Here to give us existential dread with his soothing voice

[@SnakeTheHat]

Haven't watched but I have been going through another round of binging your videos so this was nice to see.

[@jacksonvonpfostl6978]

I am so grateful for these videos and the effort and the style and the sly humor within. Thanks man. Really truly great shit.

[@AlexRango]

Unrelated to the actual things being discussed in the video, but the visuals are really well done, I usually listen to these kinds of videos on the background while doing other stuff, but I made sure to actually WATCH this one.

[@rowan9020]

just discovered ur channel!! you reeeeeeally scratched the itch for these kinda videos for a while!!!

[@_oaktree_]

I am a librarian. This video is so good, thank you for making this. I hope millions of people see it.

[@MathiasMahieu]

Curtis' HyperNormalisation changed my life. Awesome seeing you quoting it

[@benhillman8384]

15:00 Writers/developers being gaslit into working for tips just isn’t it either. Not everyone wants to be an influencer with extra steps. Even Placensia’s People of Paper (whose author contract famously forbade the *publisher* a digital iteration) are already in multiple lending archives.

[@JimmyMcG33]

You're absolutely right. What I'm saying is that within the bounds of this system, the internet has been generally better for creative people than the old publisher-dominated model. I do want to address the larger system at some point, but that video will be a lot longer lol.

[@Dowlphin]

@@JimmyMcG33 The belief that the internet has been generally better for creative people than the old model might be short-sighted, not taking many corollary factors into account, and also not what we could have had instead, if the internet didn't distract/focus all our minds on that new power tool. We can make the mistake of judging the upsides and not the downsides by ignoring how a new thing changed the world. This is kinda like the principle of something solving problems that we wouldn't have without it.

[@nekoeko500]

This already happen in Alexandria, except this time the angry mob wears suits.

[@Oliver-ty7xu]

As always, your videos are fantastic. Thanks for everything

[@dragonridertechnologies]

I wasn't aware there was a petition. Signing now...

[@Sarahstearsdandelionseeds]

i love the wonderful structure of your videos

[@WrestlingColin]

Every year I donate to Internet Archive. Money well spent, they’re a godsend.

[@TheBoneZoneDeluxe]

dude your video's speak to my friggin soul, man

[@Haps_q]

Gave this one a thumbs up before I even realized it was a video arguing against IP... How do I give another thumbs up?

[@Mr.Lanternn]

This comment will likely be lost, but i feel like what happened to wendigoon will happen to you at some point, the quality of your content is amazing and everything that is lacking on charisma (given that you don't appear in videos wich makes it harder for the big general public to get attached to you) is overshot in production, and I mean it, you have some of the best video edition on essay channels I've ever seen. I wish you well and hope the next video comes out soon :D

[@05Matz]

I can't stay KZbin-safe while describing my feelings towards DRM and its defenders. That's... barely hyperbole. Anything watered-down enough to be safe here doesn't really resemble the original thought. The legacy of humanity and the ability of us to advance human knowledge is greater than any corporation or law, and it MUST be protected, at any cost. I refuse to use any sort of DRM-encumbered 'digital lending' systems in general on principle, but I'll consider CDL if forced to in the future. Anything the RIAA or their ilk hate gets my support, after all.

[@Bushmannerino]

"Stealing is the first step in making something new" is an epiphany I needed

[@Ashalmawia]

famous quote of dubious origin from Picaso: "good artists borrow, great artists steal"

[@melc311]

So we agree that AI training on stolen data is good.

[@Bushmannerino]

@@melc311 AI doesn't create anything new, silly billy

[@melc311]

@@Bushmannerino It doesn't, but what it creates is based entirely on already existing data which someone has created. If one monetizes AI work, they take advantage of the work someone else has done without compensation. You see the problem?

[@Bushmannerino]

​@@melc311 Congratulations we agreed that it does not create anything new, super AI regurgitates, and the fact you DARE imply these are one in the same tells me a lot about your dumbfuck redditbrained character

[@-snek.]

I need to ask you to stop putting out videos that consistently make me think "This is the best video I've ever seen". I'm starting to sound like a broken record and I'm getting self-conscious.

[@JRCP144]

As a writer, I'm a bit dubious - the idea that something "will hurt writers initially, but publishers don't really care about writers" and thus we shouldn't care about hurting writers either comes across as pretty shitty. While I don't work with any of the big publishers, I can say that there are a lot of things that need to be paid for in order for a book to come out - editors, cover artists, designers, translators. Assuming that taking on those costs is realistic for writers (especially those from markets outside the US and UK) is ridiculous. Not to mention, if all creative works are paid for directly by the audience, then if I die then I don't leave anything behind for my family. Suddenly spending money on putting out a book, rather than spending money on something like buying a house or another appreciable asset feels not just risky, but irresponsible. Yeah, it's bullshit that writers have to worry about Amazon dictating the terms by which they sell your books. But it's also bullshit for writers to have to worry about patreon or whatever parasocial payment platform comes next deciding that you shouldn't be able to earn any money anymore. Basically, my problem with the copyright-free vision that a lot of visionaries have isn't that no one will pay for my work. It's that I'll no longer be able to afford to produce work in the first place.

[@StripesThaDj]

i fucking love your videos man keep up the good work

[@shitpostingsandwhich]

The internet poses an interesting question: are your generic lo-fi furry hip hop beats actually worth money?

[@treehann]

Hyper Princess Pitch, that’s obscure! You must have been deep into the PC indie scene. A fellow Underside fan perhaps?

[@necrolavigne]

excellent video, more people need to be aware that copyright has never been to benefit artists

[@biiggestorange]

Loved you in the tetris effect stream

[@pyrousred8298]

Second video I've seen from this guy and I just KNEW he'd cite Curtis eventually. I was just thinking about that guy earlier today lol

[@jctrowbridge]

Great video and content, keep up the good work!

[@ilkerkesal1145]

No punches pulled with this one, bump for the algorithm 🎉

[@NoraNoita]

I might watch anime for free, but buying the anime means I can't watch the show I may or may not even enjoy and want to support for an undetermined amount of time. Like how I watched the movie Suzume last week, and I really want to buy it in 4k special edition yada yada, but it won't be out for another couple year maybe 2024, who know. I'm yet to see a few anime I really enjoyed 7 years ago get releases here. It's not really me who's stopping me from buying the product. I try to buy everything I enjoy, I buy every video I'm playing, or putting on my endless list to be played, but certain things, especially stuff no longer support or sold by publishers, i.e. very old video games, it's a hard ask to like you know, acquire a copy of say Ocarina of Time for the N64 these days "new" to play on, I still have my OG copy of it which I bought new at the time, but Majora's Mask I got on the Flee market for 5 bucks, they want me to pay 90+ bucks for a copy of Twilight princess on the 2nd hand market for the gamecube, where the worse version the Wii one goes for 10 bucks on the 2nd hand market, but Nintendo and other companies don't want the 2nd hand market to exist, I guess. If these companies would still produce older games, I'd still buy them to this day, because I know they will work probably 99% of the time right of the gate, but they aren't, so they should not worry about the money they are missing out on.

[@dimak134]

Woah, that's fast! XP theme is gooooooooooooood btw, this early 2000s vibe, when everything was less shitty (or it was cuz we got blessed by our obliviousness idk)! Well, my folk faced the problems of renting systems (and current services in general) in 2022. I mean thew total shutdown of services like Spotify and Paypal etc in Russia. I do not argue here the credibility of this actions and stuff, do russians deserve it or not - that a discussion is not for now and not for this channel. The point i wanna make here that now services may literally cross you out of your content. First concerning signs were when Trump got banned out of everything (again, i put crimson person out of equation here to point the problem). The service environment now looks pretty monolithic and able to make some coordinated moves against people. Russians (Rossiyanians to be precise) got out of this not so hard - local analogs (Yandex Music, VK music instead of Spotify) and (Boosty instead of Paypal-Patreon), traditionally weak copyright policy (our analog of the pirate bay got blocked, but this block can be evaded by every free browser VPN extension), long-going culture of piracy (we usually use it in stuff we have issues to buy (and Windows)) and parallel import. But that was possible because Russia has never intrinsically bound to western corpo ravel in law-vise (Officials wanted that really bad, but - F, I guess) The question here - how can American (western) citizen which got bamboozled "of the Internet" for some reason get back to it or get some alternative way to operate in the web, which is now represented by consolidated group of monopolistic apps? Of course using my examples now for a public figure is self-cancelling, but i guess these points of these questions may be analysed when they got less toxic.

[@MegaTang1234]

17:09 never heard of Anna's archive....thanks!

[@Krog32]

"The Internet is slicker than snail snot" -Dr. Porray

[@monnicamii]

Excellent video Jim

[@Wart1076]

I always think of Serial Experiments Lain when it comes to topics like these.

[@BlisaBLisa]

i think there would still need to be some kind of protections for independant artists/writers/etc for their work to not be stolen by big corporations. i dont think the system we have now is good and i have the same beliefs about sharing art and knowlege as you do in this vid, but since we live in a world where powerful people/companies/orgs etc exist who can easily take advantage of regular people, those people should have some kind of protection from them. idk how it would look, it would have to be different than what we currently have

[@series9234]

Kept trying to close winamp through this vid. Remember winamp TV? Learned some crazy shit on there.

[@sphinxtheeminx]

17:28 Good to see Adam Curtis clip used here. Anyone with a brain should seek out his work and study it - all of it - and some of the fog will clear.

[@JimmyMcG33]

He rocks

[@sphinxtheeminx]

@@JimmyMcG33 As do you, sir. Keep it coming.

[@Tacom4ster]

As an anarchist, I really like this essay, corporations are the real thieves

[@isaacckre741]

Surely make a discord so I can share the best podcast ever made with everyone else here

[@tsp1999]

BoJack's pilot portraying Penguin as struggling humble businesspenguins aged very poorly