The Drums of War Thunder Once Again...[Vanilla Fresh]

[@hypedmaniac8444]

Couple extra things: 1. For anyone who wants to play Fresh on EU, we’ve started the same community movement on Zandalar Tribe. Both factions are healthily populated. GET IN HERE 2. Transfers to these realms ARE CLOSED. That means that nobody in Tier 3 gear can transfer over to gank you in Redridge or Stonetalon. Anyone who wants to play HAS to start from Level 1. Hope to see you all in here soon! It’s genuinely been such a blast

[@gtownboi3877]

Im in. I will logg in for the first time since the levelboost in tbc was announced. FOR THE ALLIANCE!

[@Shiirow]

Im sure there will be some in short order, power leveling to hit 60 in a few weeks for the sole purpose of ganking lowbies because its the only way they can feel good about themselves.

[@hesketh7085]

Sounds great, I'm very tempted!

[@shaun2312]

I'm in, Alliance here we go!

[@zerothirty24]

Many 60s already?

[@juliuscaesar1663]

The year is 2040. There are now flying cars and ai robots. What game are you playing? CLASSIC WOW BABY

[@tentomdrummer]

I don't know if I'll still be alive in 2040😅

[@ultraultraultra]

i was here (read it after 2040)

[@fanofcodd]

Cool , hope robots and AI do my work , I have a rank14 to grind

[@mayhemguitar07]

If my smart watch can't play WoW in 2040, technology has failed us. I want to be able to grind fishing by blinking strangely in my Google contact lense

[@iraniansuperhacker4382]

They will be playing The Last Titan: Classic

[@nogum9763]

2004 Wanna see me sink 100s of hours in Vanilla. 2019 Ill fuckin do it again 2021 Ill fuckin do it again 2024 Ill fuckin do it again Me in a nursing home. Ill frickin do it again

[@SometimesIllComment]

instead of "just one more level" look what we have become "one more entire play thru"

[@noname-gp6hk]

Bro I can't wait to be in a retirement home. All the old folks in the past went there to be forgotten by family and rot to death, we gonna be in there forgotten by family to play classic wow.

[@plasticbudgie]

You missed 2012 till 2018 private servers also.

[@anolaf]

So you're just gonna stop cursing when you get to nursing home age? lol

[@nogum9763]

@@anolaf well shucks, im playing with my grandkids, and Nina doesnt want me cussin when im doin BWL runs with the kids

[@SaintZaiya]

Remember when mad season would upload once every few months? Now he’s blessing us constantly. Things change, sometimes for the better 😊

[@formatomi]

"Times change.." - angry scoliosis patient

[@connorpint2920]

Guess rent was due

[@captain-pepper]

remember when he said wow turned to shit and things needed to die ? Yeah, rent is due as the other guy said.

[@Alessandro-hf7pj]

Same concept is going live on EU. Server is named Zandalar Tribe, RPPVP, growing and new people joining everyday

[@grumpypear5888]

I was just about to ask if there was an EU server equivalent

[@n3phalem754]

And Blizzard disabled transfers from and to the server!

[@grumpypear5888]

@@n3phalem754 Locked as in you can’t make any new accounts now?

[@EriSenshur]

Nah, no transfers only. Can still make characters​@@grumpypear5888

[@Alessandro-hf7pj]

@@grumpypear5888 Locked in as you can't transfer from other servers, so no geared 60's can come on the fresh server. A little help from Blizzard

[@Roestone]

Classic WoW gave me one of the best memories of my life and it will always have a place in my heart.

[@noname-gp6hk]

I met my future wife in 2019 classic, met a bunch of new friends across the country in 2019 classic, I moved across the country and bought a house based on friends made in classic. Legit got me through covid and 100% changed the course of my life. Will never forget it.

[@TankingPriestVideos]

My most fondest memory is from Classic WoW as well.

[@wompastompa3692]

You THINK you do...

[@BasicMaffs]

…but do you?

[@GhostOfLorelei]

...and you're right.

[@EJ_Red]

...and we still do

[@TE-eq1dc]

….but you should leave the breast milk alone.

[@Isingyoudie073]

@@TE-eq1dcnice one sperg +1

[@codyhoward1007]

I believe transfers to and from this server are disabled by Blizzard as well.

[@justinboyd4097]

yep they are

[@TankingPriestVideos]

You are correct

[@nopenope3678]

Blizzard: yeah we can’t we’re very busy The community: fine we’ll do it our selves

[@ctg4818]

They need all 2,000 devs working on $80 mount skins in Diablo 4 ofc

[@theforgeryttv6449]

@@ctg4818 "ThEy'Re OnLy dEsiGn ArTisTs, noT DeVs!" ~ Fanboys

[@GalloPhilips]

F*k it we'll do it live!

[@DioBrando-ln1to]

I don't wanna! I don't, dont make me go back in there! *Create new character*

[@Bleaxz6584]

It's captivating

[@cps3119]

Came back here to offer an update: Joined Refresh Alliance guild on Deviate Delight. Got to level 21 in a week. Been having an absolute blast. Lots of people running dungeons and helping each other with elite quests. It’s been amazing playing the best version of the best MMO ever made. Thanks for promoting this Madseason.

[@grantglow4206]

Update, day 10 and already lvl alliance dwarf hunter

[@mrivan2626]

when I thought I was out, they pull me back in

[@capatej]

yep :D :D somehow, there's no other game that can do that. and i'm not even mad at it, that's the most awesome part

[@TankingPriestVideos]

I was almost about to unsub but this news has me hyped

[@nairav9156]

If you asked me, I could do Vanilla -> TBC over and over again

[@XXXHardcoreCasualXXX]

💯

[@andrewmoluf4299]

yeah I really enjoyed tbc wouldn't mind a tbc era server

[@dmtaboo_truth7052]

Agreed. BC was the peak of WoW. Bascially still Vanilla but with a lot more content, balance and polish. I want a permanent BC Classic that never expands into Wrath.

[@JepJongo]

Same reason I can play Dark Souls, or Halo, or Mass Effect over and over again. Vanilla is just a brilliantly designed game.

[@xmoxipavonispetinus8539]

agree we need tbc hardcore

[@arreislynn9978]

I've been playing on DD for about 2 weeks now and it kind of feels like a less sweaty 2019 Classic. There are a few 60's, but overall, we're just relaxing and enjoying the open world

[@Rangoooooo]

I cannot believe that it's already been 5 years. I almost had a fucking panic attack when you said that, dude.

[@supersaiyanzero386]

Yeah and in that 5 years I got one character to 13 and mostly ignored 2 expansions

[@VS666]

@@supersaiyanzero386 one char to 42 and totally checked out

[@guywithnohouse.6808]

Yeah isn't it fucking crazy how fast time passes? like shit is wildly insane at some points, idk if it's just mass confusion or something but shit just seems to move forward without me sometimes.

[@immagonko4261]

​@@guywithnohouse.6808you're just getting older

[@guywithnohouse.6808]

@@immagonko4261 i am js 22 😭😭

[@teddybrixxg2782]

Your a legend Ty for bringing attention to the server ❤

[@scottgeraci5751]

Best news I’ve heard in a while. I was sure I wasn’t going to resub this year but this’ll bring me back

[@megaoyi1Wins]

Thanks for spreading the word!, this really contributes to the participation.

[@saitama741]

Ah Shit, Here We Go Again.

[@TankingPriestVideos]

Here we go again for the like 5th time...

[@redytarock]

Deviate Delight Alliance needs you champions!

[@mcfarvo]

This phenomenon even brought back Kargoz out of his hiatus

[@mcfarvo]

Was he hiding from the HC/RXP drama of last year or was he simply on a Zyzz-like cut to finally be able to stream in a stringer without shame?

[@miclam00]

who cares

[@alwaysblue6333]

Who?

[@inertiaforce7846]

Who the hell is KARGOZ???

[@TankingPriestVideos]

Did he really come back?

[@roundlakedan]

Have you ever played and/or reviewed Turtle WoW? My buddies and I had a great time playing there and enjoying the horizontally expanded "plus" experience.

[@Marunius]

I'm just worried about the competition with SoD

[@omega1231]

Madseason to my knowledge has never promoted private servers, even back before classic (he might have talked about Nostalrius after it was closed down come to think of it) I think it's a mix of principle and part of his business that he just doesn't promote private servers on his channel. Which should be respected imo

[@GermanLuk]

Amazing. Just what I was looking for!

[@michaelstronghold3550]

This video sealed the deal for me on where and what to play

[@TankingPriestVideos]

I was on the fence and this vid sold it for me!

[@Yas-sx6rm]

Makes a well-informed video on how and why the company Blizzard and their game World of Warcraft has declined into shit and how that trajectory is only to continue. Madseason's WoW Addiction: fuuuck all that

[@J-jizzy_]

I’ve been wanting this but had no idea it was a thing!

[@tandridm6798]

This actually makes me so happy, i made a toon right as i saw this video

[@absolutefolly2011]

Heads up: Blizzard has "endorsed" this enough to give us - Transfers blocked to the server, and free transfer off is also blocked. This is to keep the server feeling fresh, and then to stop bots from farming here and then taking their goods to whitemane to sell.

[@Neat0Bandito62]

I've been playing on this server for a month now, amd I absolutely adore the community we made. I cannot recommend this server enough to all of you.

[@kos_]

real

[@8milestogo]

Are you playing on Horde side or Alliance?

[@kos_]

@@8milestogo Both me and neato are playing on horde side, although from what I've heard alliance side is still good!

[@scotthoover1568]

I appreciate this update. I don't have time atm to hop back into Classic, but i do want to participate in one of these Fresh servers again someday. Seeing updates like this gives me hope I'll be able to do that and won't miss it lol. Keep these up please!

[@Mr_Jaa]

I joined 4 days ago and so far I really like it. Plenty of activity on alliance

[@Zenjie862]

I just think that Classic Wow is a very specific kind of game that has a lifespan, and it is quite literally designed to be cyclical. The ohase system is designed for specific content, being enjoyed at specific times, and this means the game can kind if be re released constantly. Thats why i always got so hyped when a new vanilla private server launched.

[@kryptikk9716]

Wolf at the Gates is still such a banger

[@KaguyaQuincy]

Warlords had so many issues but the soundtrack was absolutely not one of them

[@nullite4589]

I'm highly considering rolling on this server, but I moreso wanted to say a big thanks to Madseason here for reminding players that it is an RP realm and to not intentionally disrupt people's fun.

[@TankingPriestVideos]

We welcoming you with open arms, hope to see you on the realm

[@0athyTTV]

Lovin' the constant uploads! Great content as always Mads!

[@madseasonshow]

Glad you've been liking them! Thanks 0athy

[@GalloPhilips]

@@madseasonshow ofc you respond to the chick post ya thirstl0rd

[@atmo_dopamine]

Just started on Zandalar EU Alliance. Thanks a lot. 👍🏻👍🏻

[@civicboi96]

I will absolutely play again. I always want to play classic, it’s just a matter of is there a good server or not!

[@empire0]

Where do you live? I play on the East US cluster and it's pretty populated, lots of Naxx clearing going on every week

[@Ujlsr]

There are more guilds than just the two! All the guilds are following the phase plans.

[@regalswede3667]

Zandalar Tribe Alliance on EU here! Very populated so far and lots of friendly folks :)

[@tyeagle28]

Hell yea thank you for this video! I’m coming!!

[@atmo_dopamine]

Same ✌🏻😀

[@gameshow8602]

Wow madseason! Thank you

[@samiam813]

Sweet, life got in the way when Bliz relaunched classic in 2019 so I never got to get into it like I wanted. I've been waiting for something like this so I think I will give it a go. Thanks for the heads up!

[@Jessedaps]

Death, taxes, and Fresh vanilla. 🤣

[@pac-d6f]

the original vanilla wow guild

[@flyingiguana409]

vanilla fresh + arena + rbg + mythic dungeons....go!

[@bordel6121]

Well I know what I'm doing this summer

[@cps3119]

Thanks for promoting this. I'm logging in!

[@BarokaiRein]

Ever heard the definition of insanity?

[@omega1231]

Einstein meant only in cases where the result is undesirable, is it the definition of insanity to do the same things over and over again *expecting different results* if what you're expecting is exactly what happens, then it is the opposite of insanity by that very definition.

[@flambelk4489]

It's crazy how improvements in this game have always gotta be community driven first before Blizz gets to the task

[@tgamediaTV]

My villain arc begins

[@inertiaforce7846]

I will join you. For the HORDE.

[@TankingPriestVideos]

I don't understand what do you mean?

[@conanmcclanahan1069]

Playing this game for the 100000000th time from level 1 is a mental illness... But I love all of you who have it, and don't want to take it away from you for anything!

[@picklechin3061]

I just want permanent TBC and Wrath servers. I’ve already got my Vanilla server.

[@TankingPriestVideos]

That would legit be a good move, a lot of us liked TBC.

[@terminallyonline5296]

Thank you for the publicity!!!

[@negativepinktv423]

We out here on Deviate Delight! Having a wonderful time 😊

[@Hexedbydaylight]

i missed both vanillia og and classic and wanted so bad for the basics after sod... this is sooo cool for a chance now! glad for the video!!!

[@austin.....]

Whoa wait, I'm horde on Grobb.... are you saying there's a chance I might square up aginst the Monotone Menace himself??

[@Siganaga]

Grobb mob represent. I was Ally but definitely a great server. Grobb damn the rest.

[@nerdwhitenerd]

For my EU homies: Zandalar Tribe (RP-PVP) is the "fresh" server currently

[@imraduin]

Like I said on Azamous' vid: The big problem here will be that it's on ERA server. This means GDKPs will be allowed which in turn means there will be bots and swipers. Even before people start raiding there will be a market for gold buying to get ahead in proffessions, mounts, gear... I wish the community wouldn't do it, but that's just not the case. Still I hope for the best and the people that do go for it have fun and don't get railed by swipers at 60 after sinking a couple 100 hours into their character.

[@KAZExNOxSAGA]

Damn, you're right. And I was just about to resub. Thanks for saving several hundred hours of my life, kind stranger!

[@XXXHardcoreCasualXXX]

All hope is not lost as the current community from what I've seen is a group of like minded players that are policing bots and blacklisting GDKP groups/players. It's not against TOS to GDKP but those players will have a harder time doing content with anyone. The idea behind this is that Blizz will take notice and set up an official fresh with this ruleset in place. They have already officially stopped free transfers on and off this server so they are watching this movement for sure.

[@cmoney163]

That’s what I don’t get about the community, they don’t want WoW tokens but will gladly risk a ban to buy gold lmao

[@rafakal9823]

Pathetic really but whatever

[@MrJcock12]

@@cmoney163there’s something fun about talking to a random Chinese person and risk your whole acct for a couple hundred gold…

[@RandyRadium]

we need a new OFFICIAL fresh more than ever

[@anthonysorendino]

Buckle up

[@unknown933]

LETS AFK IN SM MARAUDON AND STRATHOLME AGAIN FOR DAYS TO GET BOOSTED... NO I WONT DO IT AGAIN

[@civicboi96]

Really hoping the gold buyers will cool it this time and actually play the video game

[@martinhensel8737]

No one forces you to get boosted, there are still plenty of people who go the old fashioned route

[@manoftherainshorts9075]

Nobody forces you to.

[@Lmmpeprstepr]

I've been playing for about a month now and I have not seen any boosters, most people are 30 or below with barely any 60s

[@TarregorsSrb2Channel]

if you don't want people ruining the game by doing that, then you'll need to find a private server that bans people for doing it and actively hunts down people that do it, and hope the server doesn't secretly dupe gold and sell accounts & gold

[@Spunky.Streams]

Top 5 what I personally miss the most about Vanilla: #1 Life in 2004/5 #2 The old DYNAMIC hunter pet system (everything was so unique & very fun/intriguing to safari for the best pets) #3 The old PVP ranking system (Warlord I reached) #4 It was all about the journey! #5 People were friendlier and actually enjoyed answering questions and chatted more What helps in retail today is to imagine how much you would have loved to have all these new spells back in 2004. That, and I just returned specifically for RP purposes and if you can use/improve your imagination and fully immerse yourself- the old vibes will come back. Still looking for a solid RP tribe though 👀 p.s. good job calling out the Horde in your last video, we must keep the hatred strong. The separate factions are very important and that separation must not be removed.

[@ricky_pigeon]

The "fresh" people always ask for fresh and then stop playing half way through, only to ask for fresh again.

[@VValkyr]

There's only so many times you can play classic. It's all just classic over and over again. Really wish retail moved towards classic formula, or that classic deviated and followed its own path of development

[@martinhensel8737]

@@VValkyr well, retail going back to the talent system is one step at least. but it would be impossible to just switch back to the "classic-formula" fully.

[@mikeclarke3990]

I love fresh but not paying per month to wait for content releases, it's tricky. Rather play on Turtle.

[@ricky_pigeon]

@@mikeclarke3990 yeah i play turtle myself and it's way better than blizzard can do.

[@lumicka6046]

I started fresh with vanila again few days ago on Steam deck independently of this movement on EU server. And i was suprised od how many people still playing.

[@nuclease2739]

one issue with this is that you will be mixed with endgame geared player in bgs. For pvp player it kinda suck.

[@XXXHardcoreCasualXXX]

The server was completely dead. 1 guild horde side with only a few players on at any given time. AHs were empty. Now it's poppin' like 2004!

[@viviway]

Thank you SOOO much for this video!!!! The EU Community is thriiiiiiiving because of this!!! You're the best

[@juiceboxxtm9848]

Classic WOW should be free to play. Would infuse new and returning players it badly needs imho.

[@googleandsusansucks]

Dude, bots are already a huge issue. Now imagine if they game was free...

[@MrKkthx]

soo true

[@Nishinga.]

In regards to you mentioning being on a break, I’ve also been on a break from WoW entirely for almost a month, I just hit a point where I realized I need to level up irl for the time being. However, It’s awesome seeing you use your platform to help grow the community man. Hope you’re doing well these days

[@HCG95]

Sorry but 50-60 people online per faction is not “thriving”…

[@smurf10fs38]

THRIVING I TELL YOU THRIVING!!!!! FRESH

[@JimothyTheGreen]

WOW never really dies. It goes away for a bit. But it always returns.

[@wigg1987]

Mad season pumping out that content. Rent must be due soon

[@codysing1223]

SOD was my last time playing, Now I'll take my place amongst the legends of the past. I'll miss wow, but I can't keep reliving the same experience over and over for a sub

[@darnassius92]

See you soon in Azeroth! 😂👍

[@codysing1223]

@@darnassius92 eh, it's been fun. But that's what makes it beautiful, knowing you can let it go.

[@Dutchmaster_88]

@@codysing1223No one can truly let go.

[@codysing1223]

@@Dutchmaster_88 it's a shadow what it once was, when you realize how much your missing out on in life. The choice makes itself. Genuinely better and more interesting things to do than grind a character (again) only to do it on another (again) in the same zones (again) The grind becomes meaningless once you think (what if I had all the things I was grinding for right now?) Turns out, it feels like a huge waste of time, when IRL friends, relationships and family have so much to experience. Seeing all the people you watch play it, quit. Your friends quit, so it becomes meaningless.

[@codysing1223]

Genuinely feels like one of the best choices I ever made, I have no regrets.

[@prototype9904]

"You think you do but you don't" :D

[@Mugetsu1212]

Cataclysm was the beginning of the end...and then the pandas came.

[@porkins8340]

They bring pandamonium

[@professionalhater3929]

mop was the second best expansion you cant prove me otherwise

[@immagonko4261]

​@professionalhater3929 MoP happened out of nowhere tho. It's like if they would do the whole expansion about kobolds or tuskarr

[@jointser1008]

​@@immagonko4261Faction war between horde and alliance played a large role during pandaria and is better executed than bfa

[@immagonko4261]

@@jointser1008 Yes, but it had pandas and pandaria which was super lame.

[@Most1ted]

Nice to see interest for fresh vanilla is strong. I would love to play with you. Unfortunately I’m in the EU so I won’t be able to join you. Currently playing classic HC. Cataclysm isn’t really my jam either atm. Can’t really bring myself to login. Classic HC in the other hand keeps being interesting with a lot of fun open world interactions.

[@Mighty_Talos]

Theres also everlook 2 fresh coming by the end of June

[@chasedecottignies8444]

A week before this vid I started a fresh mage on whitemane and got to lvl 13. Totally dead leveling, good for my farming but couldn't get a RFC at all. Was sad to throw away the 8 hours or so but TOTALLY worth it to move to deviate delight. There's now 4 horde leveling guilds all merged with greenwall add on so about 3,000 people. Easy groups, some lvl 25 even gave me a free 6 slot bag and lesser magic wand! Definitely worth it.

[@chasedecottignies8444]

Btw I don't like rp but it seems like everyone on there isn't rp at all. It is being treated like a normal pvp realm with names and the way people talk. Just FYI whether you like that or not

[@Azza_JR]

Also were on Zandalar Tribe EU!

[@SafronMegotron]

Zandalar Tribe lesgoooooo

[@saitama741]

hell yeah baby

[@Wakakoko74]

King. Thanks for the promo

[@caliber5383]

[@jonathanculler2706]

Might just do this. Thanks for PSA.

[@CornBredSnakes]

The drums of "war thunder" oh no... ohhhhh ok nvm.

[@dreenarmookington2240]

Attack the D point!

[@LilPinkFuzzyMonster]

Well, after saying I wouldn't do it again, here I am, doing it again.

[@narhwallord6985]

I kept commenting about Deviate on your videos, I like to think that's how you got hooked lmao. But you probably came from a reddit post advertising our great community lol

[@XXXHardcoreCasualXXX]

Hah same!

[@blainelashley2120]

i had so much fun in 2019, idk if i have the time anymore i truly love this game

[@NatoRadeX]

Just a reminder for anyone who is rolling on this server. It was once filled and has sleeper accounts, bots and gold in it. It's not entirely fresh and there is a power struggle in the guilds as of this month.

[@haileysweet]

A power struggle in what way?

[@immagonko4261]

LMAO 😂 "Fresh" my ass

[@fardrives]

SoD breaks my immersion. Hardcore is just not sustainable. Fresh has always been the answer.

[@Spectre1Gaming]

Sounds like a really good idea even to this day Vanilla WOW is still the best MMO in the world with one of the best communities.

[@xezberzs96]

Did this on Arcanite Reaper couple of years ago and it sadly died a few months in. Everyone transferred off.

[@silentrouge]

What's funny is that Blizzard continues to ignore the players so they try and find ways to do things themselves all while continuing to give Blizzard money. There is literally no incentive for Blizzard to do anything about anything

[@sephrinx4958]

There are three things I want in life, and both of them are Fresh Classic.

[@Mito383]

It would always be embarrassing to die to madseason because he plays the filthy alliance. Dying to such a cowardly lot is nothing short of shameful. FOR THE HORDE

[@Christian-hz2ms]

So excited! Just started my character. For the horde!

[@TankingPriestVideos]

hope to see you!

[@DiviAugusti]

Vanilla to tbc fresh would be amazing.

[@Fruza123]

OH yes please!

[@BiSFeralDruid]

Please, fresh progression servers! Classic population is dropping fast between SoD and Cata while private servers are booming again. Content is already made, bug checked, and stress tested by us for 5 years. It would cost Blizzard nearly nothing to launch these servers.

[@DiviAugusti]

@@BiSFeralDruid I bet they would be worried about its impact on the cata servers.

[@BiSFeralDruid]

@@DiviAugusti Cata will be dead by the end of the year once Dragon Soul drops. Raid counts for the first two weeks already show a pretty big population loss from WotLK. Couple that with SoD floundering a bit I see the overall classic population dropping a lot by the start of 2025, and blizz won't let those subs slip away that easily. Not saying cata is bad, but a loss of players each expansion is to be expected as people meet their "I'll play till X expansion" is reached. Eventually we will hit player counts that aren't worth continuing. Also I'm wondering what Blizz' plan is with MoP as they just dropped remix in less than a year of Classic reaching MoP, very odd timing. Some of my guild tinfoil hat Cata will be the last classic expansion and Remix is a beta test for how they will transfer classic characters to retail.

[@iCubicable]

“Arise, arise, riders of Rohan! Fell deeds awake, fire and slaughter! Spear shall be shaken, shield be splintered! A sword-day, a red day, ere the sun rises! Ride now, ride now, ride to Azeroth!”

[@tactfulrogue]

Plz blizzard plz reset everything I've done so I can do it again and pay you for it.

[@Sildemion]

You're goddamn right

[@MTB8896]

JUST WHEN I THOUGHT I WAS OUT…. THEY PULLED ME BACK IN!

[@SNAKE2500]

Zandalar Tribe for EU is also doing the same thing :) Join us brothers and sisters

[@neverbeen5691]

i heard that too. how's the faction balance so far? :)

[@SNAKE2500]

@@neverbeen5691 id say its pretty much 50:50 maybe 60:40 alliance :)

[@ncwordman]

@@SNAKE2500 Tell me it's not pvp, even if you have to lie to me. :)

[@SNAKE2500]

@@ncwordman im sorry but its RPPVP :D

[@neverbeen5691]

@@SNAKE2500 sounds good to me. i'll give it a try ^^

[@Thehardout]

Your out here doing God's work my friend. More power to you I say!

[@brelshar4968]

Sooner or later someone at Blizzard will cotton on to the fact that all they need to do is have a couple dedicated Vanilla servers that run a cycle for a year/eighteen months, and then the slate is just wiped clean (maybe they could character copy your data and dump them onto the say "eternal" realms).

[@Mammel248]

Exactly! Private servers have been doing this format for years and it's pretty successful, don't know why Blizzard hasn't figured this out yet :P

[@xpl2008]

I really hope this game will still be available in 30 years when I retire and lose my responsibilities. Perhaps is the nostalgia talking, but I really miss the feeling of playing wow without worries.