The Drydock - Episode 205

[@Drachinifel]

Pinned post for Q&A :)

[@blitzy3244]

Has a warship ever struck its colors to dishonorably gain an advantage over an adversary?

[@leogazebo5290]

Can you tell more about the USS Isabel secret mission to provoke a Japanese attack prior to US entry to WW2, if it went through how successful would it be? And would you make guide about USS Isabel?

[@captainobvious9233]

Did the interiors WW2 ships all have the same basic design or or were they aesthetic to their country of origin like the exteriors were? Could I tell what country's ship I was on just by looking around the lower decks?

[@bryanchong1713]

Had the British possessed greater economic and political support to preserve battleships, did the Fritz X attack doom HMS Warspite anyways, or was the ship way too worn out before that for it to not be worth any kind of substantial effort?

[@JohnRodriguesPhotographer]

My condolences to you and your family Drach, For you grandfather, rest easy.

[@pedenharley6266]

Drach, condolences to you and your family. Please take care of yourself and those around you in the days ahead. Thank you for what you do.

[@ruhnon331]

Seconded

[@thomasmartin8066]

Condolences!

[@johnaustin704]

Hear, hear!!

[@johnlavery3433]

I’m truly sorry for your Loss mate. Remember your well-being is more valuable to us than having a video out every Wednesday and Saturday

[@AnimeSunglasses]

Condolences and hugs regarding your Grandfather! At least he did put in a real good showing at 92. May his memory forever be a blessing.

[@galbert117]

Take your time Drach. Take however long you need & your crew will be waiting for you when you come back.

[@TheFreaker86]

My condolences to you! Take the time you need and take care of your mental health. Loosing a close relative has an impact on mental health quite often and can come with some delay. So again, take care of yourself.

[@Axel0204]

My condolences on your loss Drach. Please, if you need to take some time away from the channel, know that we understand and will still be here whenever you get back. Family should always come first.

[@DavidLopez-nc5pq]

Very sorry to hear of your loss, Drach. Condolences to you and all your family.

[@MayaMediated]

My Condolences to you in the loss of your Grandfather, Drach, and take as long of a pause as you need. Big love to you and your family. But also congratulations to your grandfather for making it to 92.

[@scooterc6412]

Sincere condolences Drach! Take your time and work through your loss. Certainly your family will need you in this sad time. Thoughts and prayers for you!

[@scrumpydrinker]

My condolences Drach, but please mourn his passing, but more importantly celebrate his life.

[@jeffwilliams8066]

Im so sorry for you loss Drach. I lost my grandfather Sunday morning at 80yrs. Its not easy. So, take the time you need. I know the rest of your followers understand. And when you are ready we will be here

[@joshuapasquale11]

My sincerest condolences to you and your family take all the time you need we will be waiting

[@agesflow6815]

Thank you, Drachinifel. Peace to you and your family.

[@dboconnor57]

Please take your time Drach, all the worlds ships will be here when you get back. In the meantime we’ll just watch old Drydocks until we have them memorized. I was planning on doing that anyway. Celebrate his life, remember good times, honor his memory, be with family. Take care of yourself dear man.

[@Matahpi]

Drach, you are good as you are. No apologies required. Please take all the time you need - for yourself and your loved ones.

[@johnaustin704]

My condolences on the loss of your grandfather. I hope you share his longevity!

[@josephravu5039]

Condolences to the family, Sir, and take care of yourself and those around you. We'll be here when you get back.

[@suflanker45]

Sorry for your loss. Take whatever time you need. We will still be here patiently waiting for you.

[@kemarisite]

Drach, I'm afraid you left something huge out of the answer about intelligence during the Guadalcanal campaign. On May 28, 1942, too late to do any good for the Midway operation because the Americans already knew and were deploying their forces, the Japanese Navy finally switched their codes, from JN-25b to JN-25c. It would be six months before the US was able to crack JN-25c and begin reading the Japanese mail again, and this time period encompasses essentially all the significant actions of the campaign outside of the Japanese withdrawal at the end of January, 1943. Local considerations like you mentioned would have hampered the ability to utilize intelligence from radio intercepts, but the change in codes made it physically impossible until the new code was cracked.

[@Drachinifel]

This is true, although not all transmissions relating to naval ops were made in the new codes, so there was some signals Intel available :)

[@colinsdad1]

My Condolences to you in the loss of your Grandfather- God Bless that he lived to 92! Take as much time as you need, as I'm quite sure we'll all be here when you get back.

[@mbryson2899]

Sorry for your loss, Drach. Working through emotions as one is also involved in the practicalities is a challenge. My last surviving grandparent went on in '15. I had to fly across North America to back up my mother while she made arrangements, closed down his home, and dealt with the grieving and well-wishes from a huge number of family plus his friends, peers, and former coworkers. It was stressful but at the same time bittersweetly joyful because at his age and health he was looking forward to it. When I was a kid he was strict, reserved, and scary; he did occasionally tell stories, though. As he aged and especially after retirement he mellowed, he shared more, and he became an absolute gem with the little kids and the wives. He was a rock of support when my better half got cancer (my granny had passed from that scourge), he helped both of us separately and together work through it. On top of him as a person I miss the anecdotes, lessons, and advice he'd share. He was a Marine who saw (too much) frontline conflict in Korea, then he became a police officer then detective. He saw a lot in his life out on the pointy end and he often shared his opinions as to how conflict could be avoided in the first place. He was an absolute trove of living history, that's a huge loss to me. Seven years later I still miss him, I'd trade all he left me for another couple of conversations but that's not how life works. My sibs are still somewhat envious that I got to drive him (in his urn) home from Orlando, FL to Chicago, IL in his Cadillac, transporting his cremated remains as well as heirlooms from him and our granny. I curated the roadtrip to him as we traveled, which strangely helped me work through his passing. Please take the time you need, Uncle Drach. I'm certain we'll all be patient.

[@davidbarton6095]

Sorry to hear about your loss, take care of yourself and take your time. Dealing with all of that is a real time devourer.

[@Thunderous117]

Hey terribly sorry to hear about your loss hope you are doing ok, your family and self come before all of us. Thank you for your tremendous content and professionalism, you are one of the very best historical content creators on this platform and it has been incredible watching the channel grow from the early days of short robo-voice to where you are now! I can’t imagine your grandfather was anything other than incredibly proud to have such a talented, hand working and intelligent grandson as you are.

[@seanmccann8368]

Sincere sympathies to you and all your family, may he rest in peace and may you be consoled by your memories and the love you shared with your grandfather. Take time to remember and recall your times together so that he may be with you every day of your life.

[@scott2836]

Sincerest condolences on your and your family’s loss, sir. Please take your time, mourn and celebrate in turns as appropriate. Your fans are not going anywhere, and while we will miss seeing you and your videos, we will manage. We understand that your status as content creator does not exempt you from the vicissitudes of being a human being. And those that don’t aren’t worth concerning yourself about.

[@unemployed_history_major4795]

So sorry for your loss, Drach. Please take whatever time you need. We can all survive without videos for a while.

[@truethat6890]

He made it to 92 and God Bless Him!!!!!! I can only hope to make it that far. God Bless you and your family and most sincere condolences. It always hurts but we will see them again.

[@Pentagon6519]

Sorry for your loss, Drach. Thank you for keeping us entertained during this time. And take any time you need.

[@DazzleCamo]

Condolences Drach, take a breather if you need to. I lost my grandfather this year too, also at a ripe old age and it SUCKS. Everyone is like "well, he had a good run and he is in a better place now" but it's different when it's YOUR Grandpa and hero. It shifts your perspective on the world because you know that hero isn't in it anymore, it's just a really special relationship. I feel for you on that one, take care of yourself

[@davidlewis9068]

Condolences. losing any family member is rough. Lost my mother in April. Been a long time since I had a grandparent.

[@blackraen]

Appreciate all the work you do. Very sorry to hear about your loss and please take all the time and care you need. My best wishes to you and your family.

[@markbrown4442]

Take care, mate. Well done to your Grandfather. 92 is some achievement. I'm sure you'll celebrate his life in the appropriate fashion.

[@MAAAAAAAAAA123]

31:35 a book about surveying the wrecks of Jutland discussed two “photographs” taken at the exact moment of HMS Invincible’s sinking. They showed slight differences, the first photo just shows the fireball, the second is oh so subtlety different, showing the superstructure starting to be lifted off by the detonation. It surmised that the two frames were in fact likely from now lost footage, and that the sinking of invincible was thereby filmed. Interesting stuff.

[@Drachinifel]

There was a whole film done from the Grand Fleet of the Jutland fighting that failed to either develop or be stored properly depending on which account you believe.

[@jeffholloway3882]

My heartfelt condolences on your loss, we'll be here, whenever you return.

[@animal16365]

Take as much time as you need. Your viewers will always be here and waiting.

[@HEDGE1011]

Drach: Like so many others here, I want to express my deepest condolences on the loss of your grandfather. This is always difficult: I have no parents or grandparents left and well understand the loss. I will be thinking of you in the coming weeks and echo the sentiments of so many others here that you should take whatever time you need in this difficult time. We will all be waiting for you when you return.

[@thunderhead180]

You produce a colossal amount of content. I doubt anyone would begrudge your taking some personal time.

[@Aelxi]

Sorry for your loss Drach

[@jamess7576]

Just outside your channel's scope, but the US Navy did trials of landing/takeoff of C130 on the USS Forrestal in the 1960's. No arrestor hooks or catapults, but Navy pilots so not sure it counts. Edit: condolences to your family, take care of your family and yourself we will be here when you get back.

[@myparceltape1169]

Captain Eric (Winkle) Brown landed a mosquito on 25th March 1944 on a carrier. This was the heaviest 'plane landed on a British carrier at that time. It had been adapted by giving it more powerful engines and 4-bladed propellers. As they were not intended for general usage, he was testing the practicality, the pitch was fixed. The only adaptation to the fuselage was an arrester hook from a Barracuda and two longerons.

[@CharlesStearman]

@@myparceltape1169 Brown also landed a captured German Fieseler Storch on a carrier but that was a special case as it was a small and slow-flying STOL aircraft.

[@WALTERBROADDUS]

@@CharlesStearman exactly. The difference between land aircraft and naval aircraft besides the whole hook thing are things like approach speeds, stall speed, visibility, Etc.

[@nichtvorhanden5928]

Thanks for your videos. Please take all the time you need to rest and organize things.

[@davidrobinson4553]

Take Care Drach and remember the good times you shared, Just do what you feel like doing 👍

[@cannonfodder4376]

My condolences for you and your family. Take the time you need, we will be waiting when you get back.

[@robandcheryls]

Love your stuff, I learn something every week. 🇨🇦

[@keppersdesignarchitecture6717]

Sorry for the loss of your grandfather. Honestly, I don’t understand how you are able to keep up your amazing pace of detailed and informative content week after week. So if you feel the need, take a break. As others have said, we’ll still be here!

[@SuperMinecraftgamer-yr4cx]

First off, my condolences are with you and you're family, Drach. Having just lost my Mother's Father (the first of my grandparent's to go), I can understand how you feel right now, mate. It is a coincidence that one of my grandfather's died not too long before your grandfather came to the end of his life as well, and that is something that is eerily sad and terrifying at the same time if you think of it. Second. you have my support no matter what happens to ya anywhere, anytime. So if you feel like you'd need to take a break for some time, whether it be a week or a month or two, just know, I'll be ready here waitin' for ya'll to come back after your well deserved break. Take your time and recover, we'll all be waiting!

[@stevevalley7835]

wrt the question about Hood. The USN had very detailed information. An Admiralty engineer named Goodall had been seconded to USN Bureau of Construction and Repair. where he both provided information on Hood, and advised on the redesign of the Lexingtons. The US SecNav and members of the General Board had gone on a European junket in the spring of 1919, which included a stop to look over Hood. As soon as they came back from the trip, they redesigned the Lexingtons based on their examination of Hood. Yes, everything the Americans were shown on Hood, and everything Goodall said could have been disinformation, but the information appears to be fairly accurate. Goodall's input on the Lexingtons included decent armor, which the USN declined in favor of more speed. I have read that, during the treaty negotiations, the British were open to an individual ship displacement limit of some 43,000 tons, the same as Hood. I give the Brits points for intellectual honesty on that point. The US declined, and insisted on the 35,000 ton limit.

[@smokinjoe4488]

My condolences to you and your family I hope you’re doing okay mate.

[@Knight6831]

My condolences Drach, take all the time you need

[@JohnRodriguesPhotographer]

There were a few U-Boat collisions during convoy battles in WWII. It is not conclusive, but inferred. Subs dropped of the grid without corresponding Allied kill claims. There was at least one instance, again inferred, that a U-Boat was killed when it's target exploded. The target was an ammunition ship. The resulting water hammer caught her submerged, either near or passing under.

[@Edax_Royeaux]

Battle of May Island during WWI, 5 British submarines were involved in sub-on-sub collisions, K4 was sunk. K22 hit K14. K6 hit K4 cutting it in half, while K4 was going down with all hands, she was also hit by K7.

[@35Cypher]

You give so much of yourself to this channel already. Take some time, give yourself the ability to grieve, take a break, spend time with your family. We will be here with open arms when you come back.

[@kemarisite]

My condolences on your grandfather's passing as well. I did, in fact, grow up with only one set of grandparents because, on dad's side, one died the year my parents married and the other flaked out on the family several years before that.

[@jckluckhohn]

So sorry for your loss, prayers for you and yours!

[@KentuckyAk101guy]

Incredibly sorry to hear about your loss Drach please do take as much time as you need to mourn......

[@aebirkbeck2693]

Sorry to hear about your loss, remember all you can do is keep your head up and keep going to going ahead. Take care mucker!!

[@metaknight115]

There is a 25.5 inch Yamato armor with a 16 inch hole in it in a museum somewhere. There were two shots taken by an Iowa class battleship from 400 feet away. The first shot was of reduced power to simulate a reasonable battle range, and this shot was only a partial penetration that failed to punch through. Because the US navy was feeling a bit trigger happy and wanted to see a hole through that armor, the second shot was just a normal shot that punched through the armor. To this day, Yamato’s 25.5 inch armor and 22 inch armor is the only armor ever equipped on a battleship that is impenetrable to easy and every naval guns from reasonable battle ranges.

[@FltCaptAlan]

Sorry for you loss Drach, I'll keep you and your family in my prayers, Keep well, we can wait if you need to take the time

[@sprret]

On Books about HMS Tiger. There is a memoir of Tiger's chief medical officer. He goes into great detail describing life aboard the ship as well as the battle of Jutland. The book's title is "Years of Endurance" by Muir. It's available on Amazon. It's really worth a read in my opinion.

[@timengineman2nd714]

About the Flowers: Part of the rise in 1943 was probably mainly because not only the crews got better trained/experienced, but also >>> Hedgehog was introduced!! This was a major game changer all by itself and with the majority first going to the Corvettes.....

[@schwacked226]

I am sorry to hear of your loss, my condolences to your and your family

[@rodneymccoy8108]

My deepest condolences Drach. Take care of your family first. We, your “extended family” are here to support you. Take all the time you need.

[@kylestickley8096]

Sorry for your loss. Love your channel, love your vids.

[@papajohnloki]

Cannot express any better than other comments posted. Best wishes to you and your family

[@The_Hissing_Fool]

My deepest and sincere condolences Drach.

[@thomasmcgraw6629]

So sorry for your loss. Take all the time you need - we'll be here.

[@paladamashkin8981]

Condolences on your grandfather sir. I remember when I was studying about the USS Colorado that she was originally designed for 25 knots. The Navy stated that did not fit in the modern battle line. So they took the engines down in power in order to cut the cost down and bring it down to 21 knots. I read in her Battle Log on a couple of occasions she exceeded 22 knots. The whole form was there all they had to do was replace the engines.

[@coreystockdale6287]

Sending love from Canada I am sorry to hear of your loss, I shall see if I can get it to HCMS Algonquin this weekend and shall send pictures to hopefully lift your spirits

[@jayjohnson9996]

Drach I’m sorry for your lost. Please keep up the good work I’ve Been following for awhile and I love your work!!!!

[@RhulkActual]

Sorry for your loss, thanks for the amazing content 🙏🏼

[@andrewcox4386]

Sorry to hear of your loss, take the time to process it and we'll all be here when you're ready again

[@Nerezza1]

I'm sorry for your loss Drach. ❤️ Also lost my last surviving grand parent earlier this year, my grandmother. It is never easy even if you sort of expect it to happen soon. Take all the time you need to grieve ❤️

[@nco_gets_it]

Sorry to hear about your loss, Drach. I hope all is well for you.

[@michaelpiatkowskijr1045]

I'm sorry for your loss. I was close to my grandpa and lost him when I was 8. He served in the Army in WWII as a rifle trainer. He was really good with guns so they had him spend the war teaching others how to fight.

[@rackstraw]

Sincere condolences for your loss. Do what you need to do - we'll still be here.

[@nauticalwolf6649]

Ah man. My condolences to you and your family. Take whatever time you need.

[@Fuse1990]

My condolences for your loss! Take as long as you need, your health/happiness is far more important than us nerds getting our fix. Look after yourself and your family and my thoughts are with you

[@jims4539]

As always, thank you for your videos. Sorry for your loss.

[@scottmason2557]

condolences to you and your family drach take your time we will survive without you until you are ready.

[@SuperchargedSupercharged]

Time will take the harshness out of most things, please accept my condolences.

[@Onceayoungidiot]

Condolences for your loss Drach. As others have said, celebrate the life lived!

[@matt3rd647]

Condolences to you and your family for the loss of your grandfather. A wonderful innings but it still doesn’t make it any easier when they go. RIP

[@Graham-ce2yk]

Re: 00:30:22, the French 'Mers-El Kebir' footage shows at the very least 15 inch shells hitting the Bretagne, and one fairly major detonation which if wikipedia is to be believed is the ready ammunition for No. 3 turret exploding. Sadly all the copies of the footage available on KZbin were prepared for newsreels, I've no idea what happened to the original film those clips came from. Similarly there was a crewman on the IJN cruiser Tone who filmed the sinking of the USS Edsall, a single frame from that footage ended up in a Japanese propaganda magazine during WWII and the footage itself survived to at least the 1950s, again I have no idea what happened after that point.

[@Eric_Hutton.1980]

My condolences to you and your family.

[@ferallion3546]

My deepest condolences Drac. I lost my last Grandparent in 18. As with you he was my Grandfather and fellow Navy vet. Take your time. We’ll be here.

[@beaker126]

My condolences Drach, take whatever time you need.

[@georgewnewman3201]

Drach,k condolences to the clan Drachinifel. I know where you are coming from though as all my grandparents have been gone for 20 years. You and your family are in my thoughts and prayers.

[@12jazion]

I am sorry for your loss, take as much time off as you need and let us know if you need anything. We can get someone to fly over to the UK and give you a hug if you need one.

[@vikkimcdonough6153]

13:00 - Also, taildraggers tend to sit with a considerable nose-up angle on the ground, which both makes it harder to see what's in front of you (which is a problem in the limited space and crowded environment of a carrier's flight deck) and results in the generation of considerable lift during your ground roll (which lifts some of the aircraft's weight off its wheels and reduces braking effectiveness), whereas trike-gears sit more-or-less level.

[@seanmalloy7249]

11:18 The other option for land-based aircraft landing on carriers is to go into the barrier that is raised to catch aircraft that fail to snag a wire with their arresting hook. Like braking once the wheels hit the deck, this is pretty much guaranteed to leave the plane in a non-flyable condition due to propellor and/or engine damage, to a somewhat lesser extent than nosing over from braking, but the result will be largely similar, so your point stands.

[@robinstevenson6690]

I love your standard drydock segments, like these and absolutely hate the live version.

[@nonna_sof5889]

o7 For your grandpa. Don't worry about us, we'll be here when your ready.

[@fouraces9137]

Do what's good for you and yours Drach, we'll still be here, oh and as long as they're in your heart n thoughts are they truly ever gone.

[@TheIamfrustrated]

I’m sorry to hear about your lost. We’ll be here when you have things sorted.

[@Edax_Royeaux]

"Was the sinking of the soviet submarine ShCh-305 by finnish submarine Vetehinen by ramming, the only time in history when one submarine sank another by ramming? Or did this happen more than once in history?" Battle of May Island during WWI, 5 British submarines were involved in sub-on-sub collisions, K4 was sunk. K22 hit K14. K6 hit K4 cutting it in half, while K4 was sinking with all hands, she was also hit by K7.

[@johnfairhurstReviews]

I think they meant enemy submarines, not a super blue-on-blue 🙄

[@JoshuaC923]

Condolences to your family 🌹🌹 Keep up the good work

[@donaldrobertson117]

Well done, in the face of personal loss.

[@TomM-jh8lx]

Re land based aircraft landing in carriers, there’s the C-130 trials on the Forrestal in the early 1960s. The design work on the Herc started in early 1951, so with rounding errors this is almost within the channel’s timeframe :)

[@myparceltape1169]

Captain Eric (Winkle) Brown got a telephone call in January 1944 and before the end of March he was able to land his mosquito on a carrier. Adaptations were: arrester hook from a Barracuda, two extra longerons, more powerful engines (possibly for the mission planned?) and 4-bladed propellers. He regretted that they were fixed pitch. (I would have wanted reverse thrust!) This was about a few thousand pounds heavier than the Avenger which was the heaviest plane to land on a British carrier so far. This was before adaptations. It also had a landing speed 30+ knots higher than the ship's gear could cope with. In the end however, the operation was not necessary.

[@1waffleiron]

Condolences. Take all the time you need

[@ismetyalimalatli7581]

My condolences. Coincidentally we lost my mother's Uncle this week, at the also ripe age of 94. I share your grief...well, more or less.

[@johnm6642]

So to hear of your loss. Take your time. Family first. I wish you well