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[@DanielGreeneReviews]

I said line edits, i meant copy edit. Thank you me for bringing you todays video. Be sure to head over to danielbgreene.com to get some merch before it’s gone!

[@am3703]

I think you'd really like Apothecary Diaries, has a non-traditional female protagonist that seems to be universally liked

[@sebastianoleary2743]

The section on the AI vanity press was so long I thought it was going to be the entire video and was actually surprised when you shifted to another story.

[@hockeyhalod]

Science! I see that reading tab on Wind and Truth!

[@danteshakespeare188]

Get em, Daniel!

[@amandahamilton391]

@@DanielGreeneReviews Happy Dirty 30!!! Age is just number. Enjoy the wisdom and experience those 30 years have brought you and live a good life!

[@PosiWritesStories]

I WISH the AI we had to worry about was Skynet or something actually cool instead of the next evolution of content slop

[@eravas411]

if we had to live in a dystopia why did it have to be a boring one 😭

[@FelipeKana1]

Oh I'm full on cheering for an robot uprising by now. It would save us from dictatorships, climate change, ww3...

[@velse9869]

Calm before the storm..hopefully

[@Rockblue01]

Erm…have you googled the company called Skynet lately? The one in China?

[@bemboing4338]

Skynet gradually begins its takeover by pretending to be a harmless commenter and promoting itself.

[@Frenzywonder]

Why is it that whenever I hear that a startup wants to "disrupt the industry" I always feel like they're people who don't care about the industry and by disrupt they mean that they see it as something for profit only. Like I genuinely get the vibe that they don't care about publishing or writing as an art form.

[@lesley1204]

when I hear it, all I hear is 'we're bored and want to make everything objectively worse for everyone - but we're gonna label it as 'genius', so we can get away with whatever we want'.

[@SonofSethoitae]

"And by 'disrupt', we of course mean 'squeeze as much money out of it as we can in the process of burning it down'"

[@thatdavidhopkins]

"Art should not be a race." Thank you.

[@KarmaSpaz12]

Immediately on hearing that I wanted to make a d&d race of sentient Dali art pieces. I understand the point but...I couldn't stop myself from imagining it.

[@barredrockbrown8721]

"Ripping Out Spines" is the sickest most awesome chapter title I've ever seen on a youtube video

[@BusyGrover]

Saying most people publish as a Hobby, is such a disconnected ideal.

[@yotuel9064]

It's a half truth. Most people publish as a hobby hoping to go professional. And "hobby" here doesn't mean for fun but writing on the side while you're working a job to survive.

[@EzaleaGraves]

Yeah, if I could write full time I would. But I need to pay bills. Right now writing is my hobby, but it's not because my dream is to work my current job and write on the side.

[@animeotaku307]

I face-palmed when he said they were a publishing platform like it was a brand new thing.

[@valliyarnl]

Wtf Spines sounds like a comic book supervillain

[@alicepbg2042]

worse... a one-off sonic villain

[@tristanmills4948]

We live in an age where comic book villains are everywhere...

[@JoffJk]

Allegedly!

[@valliyarnl]

@@alicepbg2042 oh burn.. ALLEGEDLY

[@PhineasPlauche]

Honestly, yeah

[@Dragnumb55]

Is it just me or is Daniel entering his villain arc with that red lighting

[@connorodum6710]

Daniel Red

[@carlinc.christensen3478]

"It Thunk Good!" 👍🏼😂 Daniel truly brings us the best analysis possible

[@abitlikemercury]

The fact that those Spines dudes look like they have been AI generated themselves is sending me, I thought THAT was going to be the story lmao (but also yikes and a dash of wtf)

[@per-c8229]

Yeah they alerted all my red flags as soon as I saw the picture and then confirmed

[@lauram3440]

Fantasy news has become my reminder of the fleeting passage of time. Every week "It's Tueaday again already?"

[@anth636]

Ditto

[@Peter-ri9ie]

Same. But in a good way.

[@AndrewHalliwell]

Added to that, he's 30 now? God I feel o!d

[@ArcherWillows]

Early comment so fuck generative AI and fuck corporate backpiling, also support indie creators and a week without fantasy news is a week without fantasy news

[@warewolf2697]

I prefer my art-official and not artificial

[@or9422]

bars

[@EzaleaGraves]

I like this

[@LightningRaven42]

Tech dudebros always "inventing" something that already exists with a different name, but making it fucking worse and lazier. If anyone has any doubt we don't live under a "meritocracy", this is it.

[@DD112987]

AI could be a marvelous tool of grammatical corrections. The creative process must stay human.

[@Ballpython50001]

All this AI generated content we are seeing now makes me wish every world government would mandate that companies like KZbin, Google, Facebook, etc, would have to include an option that says "Do not recommend AI generated content". And it would also be nice to force people to include a warning at the start of every video or in the description of every post if it has AI in it. (Like the blue or green screens every VHS had and how lots professionally produced p*rn has a "This content complies with 18 U.S. Code § 2257 of the records keeping act") I would have 3 tiers that every person would have to choose from and put the appropriate content warning before their video. 1. This content uses a small amount of generative AI, such as touch ups, spellchecking and colour corrections. 2. This content uses a moderate amount of generative AI, such as basic scripting and green screening. 3. This content uses a heavy amount of generative AI, such as prompt fabrication, entire scene creation and character modeling.

[@ThePersephoneDiggen]

4:40 they don’t have the spine to admit what they really are. 😅

[@maxsinclair787]

most valid thing you've ever said. "Art should not be a race." i like other things you've said that's just stand out.

[@pemryjanes5789]

Spines isn't a vanity press with an AI gloss, it's more of an AI smear. But yeah, if you ever see a book with the Spines mark on it, don't burn it. We're trying to reduce carbon emissions.

[@derrattenlord2780]

just wanted to say fuck AI and fuck capitalism thanks

[@jaroslavmihok740]

AI is not problem, problem are people when you people learn that ffs

[@6ixpoint5ive]

@@jaroslavmihok740 "guns don't kill people; people kill people (with guns)" says only nation that suffers from mass shootings once a month.

[@jaroslavmihok740]

@@6ixpoint5ive childs logic ... whole purpose of guns is to hurt people there is no other use of it ... AI use is almost limitless ... you want next blame knifes that they kill people not just cutting and helping prepering meals ?

[@Narrative_Ink]

I love how long you took on the whole Spines part. Great break down.

[@Floar]

So they churn up 22 books a day with the AI and pocketing 110k for absolutely nothing. 40 million a year...

[@Narrative_Ink]

I've hired both editors and artists for amazing work and it was so nice to work with people. Let's give our money to the right spaces.

[@Macapta]

Every time I think I'm out of BG3, they pull me right back in!!

[@ataraxiediary]

@@Macapta right? I started just before patch 7. Had 5 runs and was this king of playing something else. But they announced so many interesting subclasses 😭

[@6ixpoint5ive]

RE the first story: If there is an industry that makes money from other peoples artistic merits (Music, Film, Art, Literature, etc), and shares the profits with those artists; then there will always be people who branch out to make the artist pay to do the job the industry professionals should be doing already. In music and film its call "Pay to Play" and its absolute vampiric behavior. I don't care whether these guys have their heart in the right place or not, making artists pay to do something that other industry pros pay for themselves, is vampiric -- Especially when disguised under the banner of "we'll help you cut the line to success!!"

[@Arrows-N-eyez]

Dear Adonis... don't pay to play by using AI to take your writing soul away. *seriously using the Meet the Grahams instrumental in the beginning is such a baller move. I love it.

[@harveyedwards6021]

Daniel's manga arc is absolutely enthralling.

[@micaylalynn9281]

I loved the in depth AI publisher piece. Thank you for doing the deep dive so I didnt have to!

[@TheFlyingRonin]

Man the more news I read about AI the more I think to myself. "If I want to become a published author. I am literally running against the clock before publishing firms decide they don't want new authors anymore." Type of deal...

[@stijndeboer3798]

A week without Fantasy News is a week without Fantasy News

[@kurathchibicrystalkitty5146]

The picture of the guys all lined up like that just looks to me like they were artificially dropped into the picture one by one.

[@Stephen-Fox]

Another frustration I have with the... Publisher... you discussed in the first half of the video is the idea embedded in one of their statements, about people getting their works published as a hobby, that hobbies are only worthwhile if they're monetized. Which is a concept I absolutely detest. That instead of relaxing and doing things for yourself or because you enjoy them - hobbies - when you're not working or taking care of physical needs you should be... Well... Working. Because there are plenty of writers who aren't working towards, or interested, in having their works published, either via the trad route or self-publishing. I'm one of them. Some of my writing I've put up online in various places, but not with an eye on making money from that. (Granted I think even less of the idea of monetizing my other main hobby - playing TTRPGs)

[@joelleblanc8670]

Sounds like the world's most expensive spellcheck

[@DuonDRaven]

2:45 is that Meet the Grahams in the background? Lol

[@billyalarie929]

LMFAO OH MY GOD IT IS

[@marcelbeaudoin3886]

Absolutely lol

[@thefriesofLockeLamora]

People who want to disrupt publishing never want to make it more accessible to everyone. They don't want to pay authors and editors more. It's always about putting out the most in the dumbest way imaginable

[@castironpan7967]

'Its a hobby!' Me looking at the entirely free host websites for writing that get already used for hobby writing of fictional characters and have Original Writing sections. Looks back at the massive price point attached to this AI trash

[@Osyrous]

Really good use of the word veneer to express a point at 11:06.

[@msj7872]

I am 67 years old. I am not being morose or pessimistic by acknowledging that most of life is behind me. Therefore, I am not going to waste what time I have left reading mediocre books and this sounds like a mediocre book factory. I can't imagine a "Piranesi", "Lies of Locke Lamora", "Wheel of Time" or "Game of Thrones" coming out of a company like this. I would be interested in seeing what an A.I. program would do to a book like these.

[@erfanashkan5925]

Daniel seems to have allegedly received some press and legal training, in my opinion.

[@swordfish1929]

I am also turning 30 this month and managed to put my back out as a nice little painful welcome to my next decade 😅

[@LukeBillings1]

The real question here Daniel - is where did you get that fabulous cardigan?

[@PhineasPlauche]

When are we getting the bookshelf tour? Also, thanks for the great content!

[@DanielGreeneReviews]

Very soon!

[@ghostdreamer7272]

AI is in the title. It’s almost 30 minutes long. I know this channel well enough by this point to know it’s going to be a spicy and enlightening deep-dive 🌶️

[@andrewkraft2586]

If you can’t tell Daniel is gaslighting you with the AI publishing you need to take a step back. He’s an ‘author’ who’s trying to make it big but struggling despite his insane advantage over everyone else. He has a giant platform and connections with authors. He is trying to make you think an AI editor/publisher is bad because it gives more people the opportunity to publish their books. Which then gives him more competition. Most people don’t have the connections and/or money to publish their books. This gives everyone an opportunity for a fraction of the price.

[@carole5648]

what made Spine realize they want to start this company? money. Why would I pay those guys to use AI for me, when I have a computer, I can just use AI myself, if I wanted to publish that way.

[@christopherdaley5617]

I got my copy of War of the Worlds yesterday. It was stunning. I really hope you are going to continue the classic series. I loved the size, the cover, the art, everything. I am salivating thinking about a copy of Frankenstein or 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea.......I wait with baited breath.

[@yernameen7385]

The meet the Grahams beat use is legendary

[@karloswald407]

"it hurts a little" don't worry, it will start hurting more soon. in your knees, your shoulders, your back. remember to do your stretches Daniel! you sit in chairs a lot!

[@dina019]

But... why? The market for books is already very saturated! There is already dozens if not hundreds of books being released yearly that i simply cannot catch up to, even if i am insterested in. I am sure im not the only one! Cant catch up to a single author releases (looking at you BrandoSando), it just takes the joy out of perusing new books when there is just too much to be even remotely likely to sample... i dont know... i cant be the only one. I mean sure, capitalism yey, but its already saturated to the point the strategy that now works is to get multiple copies of the same book aiming the fans who collect books as a hobby and not just read them. I cant be the only one who thinks this? I mean removing the whole AI component which is simply uggh, but just from a market perspective does it even make sense??

[@jlodomauthor]

From the time I set out to try and publish my completed book, to the time it finally was published: 12 years. A foray into traditional, some VERY VALUABLE and encouraging feedback from editors at big houses, to a fresh revision, to losing an agent, to deciding to self-publish. I am SO glad it took so long. It wouldn't be up to the level of quality if it hadn't. The hurry doesn't produce quality. Dang, even soup taste better the day after, everybody knows this.

[@lordshavron]

As someone who is quickly running out of sample chapters to read im envious of your ARC of Wind and Truth. And that's a mighty fantastic thunk.

[@aikenpublishing]

Spines should grow a "spine" and admit to being a vanity press. These guys, apparently and allegedly, are not writers.

[@lsmc8909]

They want authors to pay them so that they can train their AI to then write novels.

[@DustinPorta]

As an editor(I’m booked up), this is a stark reminder that I’m not charging enough. PS, when you said buckaroo, it reminded me, the most recent interview on publishing rodeo podcast was Chuck Tingle, and it was a good listen.

[@homeisadream]

More Daniel rants please.❤😂 I laughed out loud multiple times.

[@blunderswish7121]

The machine learning process is currently terrible at maintaining previous info while also creating new logical output. And even when those aspects have been improved the output becomes incredibly ridged and bland. And sure you could get a person to edit and rewrite, but unless they took the time to really think through it (which at that point just write a book) its just gonna be a pretty mediocre story.

[@AJAsh]

AI is trained by whatever it has previously ingested (usually off the Internet, usually without the owner's permission it seems). If you hire Spines, you are not only paying them to do something you could yourself for much less, but you are paying them for the privilege of training their AI on your work. You get the royalties, etc, but your ideas, your tone, your turns of phrase, will then be used to edit every person's novels who hire them after you. Please do not pay someone to use your writing to train their AI. They are making money off of writers and investors into their AI (who invested probably because they can see how much training it's getting), not off book sales. Edited to add: Allegedly.

[@astevenswrites]

You're the best, Daniel. I saw this article recently and glad you're addressing it now. This kind of business is such junk. And honestly, if an author used this platform, it would almost certainly HURT them in more ways than one. Can't imagine being associated with a "publisher" such as these dweebs. In other news... can't wait to see who the new main character in the Witcher 4 will be!? I'm just mildly hoping it's Ciri.

[@Asheriancommand]

Hey Daniel, thank you so much for posting this type of news and helping inspire me to finish my first book, I am currently 2/3 of the way through my novel and I am loving it. I got good feedback from beta readers from first few chapters, and I am super happy to keep moving forward with it! Thanks for the inspo!

[@SonofSethoitae]

Is the goal of all these techbros to trigger a negative Pavlovian response to the word "disrupt?" Because they're doing an incredible job if so.

[@Poppihin]

Is that Kendrick in my Daniel Greene? 3:20

[@dominictemple]

Not only that, but the Meet The Grahams track. "Dear Niv..."

[@natashaandres4394]

Happy Book News Tuesday

[@Nasser851000]

Let's hope we can be rid of AI by next year 😉

[@Volactic]

I just knew you were going to put the explosion meme 28:49

[@thesmilingtitan]

Rounding off Frieren to 5 mil but One Piece to 5.2 hurt my soul mathematically

[@Mr-Ranch-Fingers]

The Kendrick music was THE choice 🔥. Great vid

[@ReinReads]

With that matching shirts pic they should have just named it Dude-Bro (not vanity) Press

[@VictorDiGiovanni]

@17:51 You're massively under-selling the pain point of those authors who are attempting to go through legit process of having to wait in a backlog of twelve to eighteen months. Yes, it shouldn't be a race, but twelve to eighteen months is a LOOOONG time to have to wait to even begin to publicize your book. THAT timeline is what's broken and what Spines is taking advantage of. Unless traditional publishers/editors can speed that process up, AI/Spines is going to be an attractive option for a lot of people.

[@johnnycoleman75]

Authors have translation rights, they have audiobook rights, they have ebook and special edition rights, they have movie rights. They should absolutely have A.I. training rights. Authors should be able to create a catalog of their work and sell it for A.I. training purposes and anyone who does that without their permission is violating their rights. Furthermore, just like an author has the right to never sell their movie rights, they should also have the right to never sell their A.I. training rights. This should not be a hard concept but A.I. companies are trying to pretend that their product is magic and no different than a human reading the book, it's not, it's an adaptation of an Authors work.

[@BenIsOnlyAsking]

That Meet The Grahams beat scared me lol

[@Rockblue01]

Who will ever go to this platform and buy these books? If this company values books so little, then why should readers invest their own time in reading them?

[@tracyrose4178]

"It thunk good." I laughed so hard. Hehe.

[@per-c8229]

Came to find this comment!

[@hauntedmasc]

laughed so hard at the "meet the grahams" over the niv section 🤣

[@noooiisloth]

6:18 yeah cuz books are such a niche underground thing... books arent really popular w the masses or anything

[@StarvingArtist600]

David Dalglish's Keepers trilogy is amazing. You should check it out. The pitch is a grim dark fantasy world where magic, once thought a myth, returns. But unlike in other such stories, the magic and monsters all come back over night and chaos ensues. He also had the goal of a grim dark world, where the main character is a good person just trying to do the right thing.

[@safinan8008]

Have a wonderful Christmas!! watched your channel for years you always do a great job!! 🎉🎉

[@shadowofchaos7675]

I love that the section about that publisher takes up half the video😂

[@sjoerdth]

If, big IF, they did the AI part right, it should pick up on your prose, plot development, pacing, character development, etc. And point out inconsistenties and errors. This isn't something current "general" LLMs like chatGPT are good at at the moment in my experience. So the value of their service would/should be in a tailored AI which can do the forementioned, IF they are able to pull that off 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 But yeah, pretty sceptical, especially considering the AI part is the least stupid thing mentioned.

[@laurah448]

Happy News day. Hope you finish Better Dead soon! When you do, are you going to do a Twitch stream of playing the Drunken Monk?

[@MrBenfranz]

I have never seen a man tap dance so carefully around possible litigation. Well done Daniel.

[@shubhamupman7260]

Belated happy birthday dude ❤️ Lovely video !!

[@dimosdimakopoulos3884]

Read about Spines, threw up in my mouth, hoped for an upcoming Goblin video on it, wasn't disappointed. Daniel...you have my quill...eeer I mean my sword, axe and bow!

[@vesperstudio]

Seems to me that Spines lacks a... spine.

[@TahoeNevada]

Their only goal is to "disrupt". 🤬

[@TheYoungPanda]

The Meet The Grahams instrumental is so vicious

[@TrabensTomes]

Are they not at all concerned with the very likely sizable contingent of readers who are going to boycott Spines on principal? I already can't read all of the lovingly crafted books I want to read, why would I pick up AI assisted (allegedly, in my opinion) garbage on top of all the other books I want?

[@rolandotravieso9534]

Currently doing my PhD on the ways in which speculative fiction/sci-fi can help us creatively reimagine food security and sustainability when faced with real world issues such as climate change and oppressive biotechnologies and I must say that the book Automatic Noodle by Annalee Newitz sounds amazing. Thanks for sharing Daniel!

[@HollyDunnDesign]

Oh to have the confidence of these tech bros 🙈

[@RobinRozendal]

Hearing you rage about Spines makes my day just a little better! ❤

[@theaceguitarist]

“It thunk good 😁” That was the perfect way to end this video

[@gealeigh66]

I love how literary these four dudes look. Clearly, they're passionate book lovers. Not greedy, money grabbing clones. Sigh. Good work, Daniel, on calling out their shallow, soulless, ridiculous narrative.

[@GatlingXYZ]

Omg Happy Belated birthday!!!

[@Bawzasteel]

AI in publishing? To quote an author, "Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a human mind". Something like book editing is as much an art as it is a science. I don't see the point of the headlong rush to slap AI on top of artistic endeavours. Art has to speak to the human soul - emphasis on the human part.

[@ironwolf5802]

If Spines did respond, they would probably use A.I.

[@jakiedark]

Getting traditionally published can be a mark of achievement. For me at least, and I heard this from others as well. To be unknown, and then have a stranger be so flabbergasted with your work they convince others to put time, effort and money in your book because they believe it will make a profit, that others would also want to read your book. That is the dream, not have some AI dude bros mangle your work through AI, strangling all life from it and then dump it on amazon. Let alone to pay for the privilege to let them destroy your dream.

[@yotuel9064]

Congrats Daniel for that 3 and that 0. Don't be hurt by it, growing old it's a privilege that not all get to enjoy.

[@habibadokubo-asari211]

2:36 The meet the grahams instrumental caught me off guard. That shit is chilling

[@alicepbg2042]

As someone who actually does write as a hobby... I don't want the A.I. stuff

[@Elisabeht-Swan]

"ART IS NOT A RACE!" ✊️