The E-100 in War Thunder is WRONG

Music: Sniper Elite 5 OST - Mission 06 - Tension
Too heavy

[@Bread_tost]

The SE5 ost being featured is smth I did not expect..

[@VictorS.A-d9n]

Thought I was the only one hearing it 😂

[@Orangnus]

What is that

[@gabbythegamer79]

​@@OrangnusThere is a game called Sniper Elite 5. I recommend it.

[@christianmariogreco9330]

@@Orangnus if I’m not mistaken I think they’re talking about Sniper Elite 5(SE). I’m not sure because I like Sniper Elite 4 more so I don’t remember a lot of the soundtracks.

[@Orangnus]

@@christianmariogreco9330 Oki, thanks for telling me.

[@ademoknightmain7238]

i think we need leak some 80 year old documents to fix it...

[@LiterallyTheByn]

The documents don't exist

[@supertrik2829]

Remember to not leak about this why 6milions+few milion of slavs is impossible with reserve resources, bombardmends, hunger and very very short time

[@Pan.pomarancza]

​​​@@LiterallyTheBynJokes for you doesn't exist

[@MrlEmmanuelCinema]

Are you stupid ​@@LiterallyTheByn

[@Ballsitch420]

the documents are most likely burnt or kept somewhere by a private collector

[@marygracetumbaga5309]

there is finally a reason why War thunder is history inaccurate

[@STHV_]

You would be amazed by how many blindingly obvious mistakes there are in this game. The IS-6 for example is modelled on the wooden mock-up not one of the actual prototypes.

[@polishlisek]

i mean every R2Y2 never existed so it's also history inaccurate

[@Chaos_152]

Welp can you find any historically accurate games out there ?

[@henrikt.183]

War thunder at some point wasn't all that concerned about historical accuracy. Later they decided to go for more accuracy and moved fictional tanks like the panther2 out of the tech tree and made them unobtainable.

[@Daegon4626]

​@@henrikt.183 Tiger 2 105 as well

[@ghostwithmp-5]

There were blueprints with E-100 having a Maus turret

[@josericardoruizhernandez5066]

But where rejected because of the weight of the turret

[@CallofDutyBlackOps28]

Blueprints about as useful as a wooden mock up.

[@darthnihiluslordofhunger6314]

Bro works for WOT.

[@ghostwithmp-5]

@@darthnihiluslordofhunger6314 huh

[@STHV_]

The most commonly cited blueprints were drawn post war from memory which is why it depicts a hybrid of Tiger-Maus and E-100

[@lego_kitsune]

Technically it does exist if they called "Tiger Maus". As this was a paper design to put the Maus turret on the E100 hull. This of course never came to fruition irl Source: Tank Encyclopaedia

[@Thehackofzwerg]

Also, this project was the one from Krupp, that was stollen by the Second waffenminister of the Reich (forgot his name)

[@Jake_in_StateFarm]

The maus turret would still crush the hull, and WoT has more physical accurate models more than wt does

[@Thehackofzwerg]

@@Jake_in_StateFarm you know that the turret is not much heavier, than the one the Maus used, as fare as it‘s known to me, it is only 20t more, the real problem is the weight to traction problem, that makes it hard to move

[@STHV_]

They would also need to remodel the suspension as Tiger-Maus used torsion bar not coil spring like the E-100

[@Thehackofzwerg]

@@STHV_ As I sayed, the e-100 was almost a copie

[@WeirdCroc]

I refuse to believe that the maus turret is THAT heavy and the E100 hull (kinda) is THAT not so strong (i dunno what im really saying, though i am suprised to find myself this early on one of your vids, keep it up!) scheisse machine is too hevi

[@Crittergkk]

It is. ConeOfArc made a video about it, where he stated that the E100 in World of Tanks is a more accurate model of what the E100 would look when finished. Search for "The fakes of warthunder | Fake tank friday"

[@STHV_]

The Maus turret weighs 55t, E-100s intended turret was only about 30t. The hull was not the issue, it was the coil spring suspension that physically couldn't support the weight.

[@snek9388]

@@STHV_ This right here is the real answer.

[@DDOD25]

The hull or the turret itself were not the problem. All of the chingamajigs and thingamabobs in-between those two would simply pulverize due to sheer pressure of the turret.

[@hellisia-celeste-evangelin8925]

​@@STHV_E-100 original turret was 45T so it can clearly supporte the maus turret especialy knowing this tank mas more stable and had better ground pressure compared to maus

[@edgychico9311]

They instead uses a King Tiger 2 turret on with the same gun.

[@matejcyranek1481]

E-100 Henschel

[@Kalashnikov413]

Nope

[@potassiumcyanide3857]

That moment when world of tanks e100 is more historically accurate

[@wotdragonracer5624]

In the early days of wot (I'm talking more than 10 years ago), you could use either the Maus turret or the E100 turret on the E100, but the Maus turret was later removed as it didn't give players much of a reason to grind the Maus line in the first place

[@AdamHimter]

​@@wotdragonracer5624 Was the Maus turret on E100 in official game of WOT or just Dev testing ?

[@Вовачкинканал]

E-100 in war tander: case from e-100 mouse tower Е-100 In the world of tanks: turret from E-100 and hull from E-100

[@NY4anko]

*coughs coughs* Tanks with HP how ironic.

[@Skyhigh_905]

@@NY4anko Ironic?

[@boruru9987]

​@NY4anko I don't see how there's a problem. WoT is more like CoD, and Warthunder is more like Rainbow. At the end of the day, both are games and one of them is more accurate.

[@Skyhigh_905]

@@boruru9987 EXACTLY

[@odyga8330]

​@@boruru9987I see wot as a more fun, casual game, where you can hit enemy couple times and don't get blown up in second (unless your ammo goes boom) in war thunder one shot nie kill is more used.

[@mikaeltw]

in Tank Company there's a premium tank called Maus II, the hulls is normal Maus hull, but the turret is WOT E100 Turret. Yeah IDK.

[@propellerknight6334]

TBF it makes sense since the WoT E-100 turret holds a 15cm gun which is an upgrade to the firepower of the Maus. Still weird and wouldn't have happened, but to some extent it makes a little sense.

[@STHV_]

The Maus II turret is the original. The E-100 turret was a lightweight version of the Maus II turret that meant it wouldn't overload the suspension.

[@baxternieto833]

Warthunder (w/e100): 🤡🤡 World of Tanks: 🚬🗿🤌🏻

[@RandomGoofyProductions_1]

Some people don’t realize that the E100 and the Maus are different

[@blitzwolfe7875]

The one that picked it in World of Tanks is the one that's historically accurate, there are actual blueprints for it, and Spookston (wt youtuber with 400k) made a video on it

[@ciaranReal]

And they say the game isn't historicaly accurate

[@JEFFNoTClick]

@@ciaranReal they cant handle the existence of HP bars and Prototypes in game lmao.

[@War_Thunder_Cat]

@@ciaranReal1 tank doesn’t make up for all the rest

[@dominusinmortuorum6954]

​@@ciaranReal Mhm, the historically accurate realism of hit points and a double barrelled IS-2...fuck off

[@davisdf3064]

​@@ciaranReal World of Tanks isn't supposed to be historically accurate, as far as I know

[@porucznikborewitz8609]

"And this is why" i gave you hand down.

[@Kalashnikov413]

?

[@phoenixpingu]

​@@Kalashnikov413he can't handle that WoT is more realistic in some cases

[@tinycockjock1967]

@@phoenixpinguno just the lazy loop

[@tinycockjock1967]

@@phoenixpinguno just the lazy loop

[@zee_terminator2850]

@@phoenixpinguWOT isnt more realistic, it just adds paper designs

[@coso2.0]

Wow, an E-100 in War Thunder I don't have even the Tiger II ahahahaha

[@Kalashnikov413]

Don't worry, you ain't gonna get the E-100 in WT

[@coso2.0]

@@Kalashnikov413 yea I know that E-100 was an event vehicle

[@philippnagel6259]

@@coso2.0you can still buy it for more than 1000 bucks in gayin marketplace 💀

[@dmitrykhvostik5975]

Everyone's gangsta until player from Argentina starts confirming German paper tanks actually existed in metal by leaking the docs with ⚡⚡ on it

[@scrubsrc4084]

There were two proposals, the maus turret was to go on the prototype.

[@philippnagel6259]

It was proposed on the tigermaus wich wasnt bulit

[@scrubsrc4084]

@philippnagel6259 thats a different concept thay in reality got no further than a name and requirements with no set plans

[@Veanixonn_]

Fun fact: On War Thunder official wikipedia, you can find the E100 with the upgraded Maus 2 turret and a 150mm gun on the Premium category icon when choosing filters for ground vehicles

[@AllMightyKingBowser]

Always have found this incredibly funny and infuriating at the same time.

[@AmericanCarrierVesselUSSRanger]

Its on premium category buddy

[@titan_tanker]

There is no such thing 😂 why are you lying

[@Veanixonn_]

@@AmericanCarrierVesselUSSRanger My bad

[@Veanixonn_]

@@titan_tanker Check again

[@snow_42]

bro shut up this is german engineering everything possible

[@voodooonevipersonstation663]

They didn’t just “decide” many media and models depict it like this because in the blueprints it was expected that the E-100 should be able to mount the Maus turret if it’s own designated turret was never completed on time for battle

[@Kalashnikov413]

The Maus turret was from the Tiger-Maus project and as some kind of "stopgap" design before the actual turret was decided

[@voodooonevipersonstation663]

@@Kalashnikov413 at the same time it never had its own turret design. And I know damn well the E100 could never feasibly support the Maus turret but considering it was on the blue print i feel like it’s the best thing we could put in that empty spot. It looks good too, and that’s the kind of models I collect anyways. The kind with a maus turret. I think it’s fine cuz it’s not like these tanks had a chance to exist anyways, so you can’t call it innacurate if it was never finished

[@redrazorjp]

casual lazy gaijin just throw whatever at the at a tank and called it a new tank

[@Patrik1342yt]

and wants us to pay 2 k for it

[@elboycollado9095]

WOT has been doing it for years 😂

[@Patrik1342yt]

@@elboycollado9095 dont even talk aboit that game double barell tanks

[@Patrik1342yt]

@@elboycollado9095 my friend plays wot and he is so stupid he has a shit ton of op tanks but uses low toer shit bc they are faster💀💀

[@daxie__3210]

It's an event vehicle, you either have to be one of the best players in the world or insanely rich to get an E100.

[@victinim2512]

"War thunder is wrong because this." "Why is that wrong? Just trust me bro"

[@Remnantov]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzerkampfwagen_E-100 panzerworld.com/e-100 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZXaoaB3dq-Zlbc

[@victinim2512]

​@@Remnantov Wait geniune question cause sources say things like "The turret was planned to be the same as that of the Maus." -panzerworld "But many sources also suggest that a Maus turret could be mounted." -wikipedia (e-100) but at the same time they say "Krupp designed a new turret in 1944, closely resembling the Maus turret, the only difference being somewhat thinner armor." -panzerworld "The only substantive differences between the 130-tonne Tiger-Maus and the E 100 was the suspension" -tanks-encyclopedia (when talking about the tiger-maus which in itself was a concept for a E-100 with a Maus turret) but then they say "That turret weighed in excess of 50 tonnes and was abandoned long before the E100 started. It was later found that the E100 hull (with its lighter suspension), in fact, could not mount such a heavy turret" -tanks-encyclopedia. what is with this prototype tank shenanigans? does anyone actually agree on something?

[@Remnantov]

@@victinim2512 Due to this never being tested there is no 100% guarantee that it would not hold its turret but theoretically even if it could hold the turrets weight, it would be so unstable, slow or unreliable that it would be completely useless in any situation, not to mention it would most likely not be able to properly turn the turret either. For me, even if there is a chance it won’t immediately collapse on itself, if it would be this dangerous that it would constantly run the risk of collapsing at any moment that counts as an impossible in my book. ConeofArc, does though say that it would collapse on it self without even moving.

[@STHV_]

The only reliable source there is TE. Tiger-Maus is the original Krupp design with torsion bar suspension which was designed for what would become the Maus turret. The Tiger-Maus design was cancelled and given to Adler without Krupps knowledge who swapped the suspension to coil spring and was incorporated into the E-series as E-100. This new suspension could not support the 55t Maus turret so a new turret was designed by Krupp (they were not very happy their design had been stolen) based on the Maus II turret design (think WoT E-100) but with thinner and thus lighter armour plates, this E-100 turret was around 35t but due to the cancellation of all super heavy projects the turret was never built just like the heavier Maus II turret.

[@BARelement]

@@RemnantovSo he kinda ate..? The tank isn’t real to begin with lol. The Maus turret being the weight up just negates the P/W ratio that would make either more appealing to the MAUS adding the Maus turret just makes you have to go “well why not just have the Maus at this point”. I’m sure the hull roof wouldn’t just “collapse” as you said. But yes reliability, and mobility would suffer more than they would if they went with a lighter slightly less effective turret. But again. Speculation. We don’t even know if the hull alone could move in reality. It never did. So with that being said. If they truly went historical, it would have American markings, wouldn’t be with a turret, and wouldn’t have an engine in it powering it lol.

[@Garrison-nh4rh]

I hate the fact that Ijen will go to such large lungs to put a itsy bitsy Stalin poster in the back of a Russian plane and make a perfect design of the M22 Locust but they don’t want to model the e100 turret

[@turfymarlin1143]

Gaijin making impossible German tanks: mmm fek it why not Gaijin deciding whether or not to put depleted uranium on abrams which is actually used irl: well we don’t know the statistics

[@renatoxmine]

because of this I prefer wot's e100 as it is more correct

[@MrTefe]

They should make an update to change the turret or make a grindable E-100 with the right turret

[@ghostik8858]

It's historically accurate turret. Author just scamming people

[@MrTefe]

@@ghostik8858 It was a plan to put the MAUS turret on the E-100 but it was too heavy.

[@AdamHimter]

Maus turret is too heavy pal, you even watched video ? ​@@ghostik8858

[@Mimic346]

It wasn't finished but they did say in documents that the maus turret was too heavy and needed a better solution

[@Soul_Acolyte]

Isreal germany italy and japan VS usa ussr france britain and china in the middle east and ppl say war thunder is unrealistic

[@Noobixm]

I think there was one blueprint of it having a Maus turret, it was never used though.

[@philippnagel6259]

That was the Tigermaus you're referring to

[@ichguhnter513]

We'll talk about every second object

[@nemisous83]

Honestly i think people forget how heavy the E-100 was, the hull alone without an engine, tracks, sideskirts, drive train, and hull interior was almost 90 tonnes. With all that assembled the hull would have been well north of 110 tonne. To put that into context the maus' hull is about 120 tonnes.

[@wotgamerz9212]

The first thing World of Tanks get right (technically)

[@thehackking4419]

"Thank you for pointing this out. We will head to Germany and find those documents."

[@AmmarAlshomali]

People spent 2000$ on a f***ing tank that doesn't even have a turret yet.

[@luka-e7u]

Bias t54 with Stalinium is also impossible too.

[@bananaok6194]

Panzer 3 j/50 mm

[@the_cheddar_knight]

What do you mean?

[@marckronemeyer8001]

One of my favourite tanks what do you want to say Nobody asked but why I love the Tank the 50 mm cannon can pen ( if you have a bit skill) most Tanks at its battel rating. It wont kill them but due to its speed easy 40kmh you can aproach from the side and destory the enemy. And if you angle and nobody shoots the right spots on your turret you can take some shots

[@S0me-rand0mguy1]

Maus: YOU COPIED ME

[@carlocalo3364]

World of tanks: hold my turret

[@BudgieBall743]

Ever heard of steel?

[@roastedsand5917]

After Tiger-Maus lose to Maus for production, Ernst Kniekampf from Panzer Kommission take the blueprint without Krupp knowing to Adler Ernst order Adler to built single experimental tank, Adler change the suspension from Torsion-Bar to Helical-Spring to ease production and call it a new design E-100 Tiger-Maus already deem cannot handle the Maus Turret, let alone E-100 that use weaker suspension So they redesign Maus II turret to be used on E-100, Maus II wich already lighter than original Maus Turret got it armor reduce even more to make it more lighter So yeah... WoT got the E-100 turret right, also Krupp send complaint about their design get copy but it seem get ignore 😅

[@AydenGibbons]

Wot E100 supremacy

[@MegaloTnt]

If i remember correctly, there were like 4 official blueprints One with maus turret - rejected The WOT one One thats similar to an enlarged tiger turret (trumpeter model) Amd one more

[@Kaizen-Drastic]

I wouldn't say its impossible, or incorrect to be honest. The Hull was partially produced but the turret never was. However the E-100 was stated by multiple sources that it could be fitted with the Maus turret.

[@vkblue3409]

I don't think the suspension that was neat to support around 30 tons would support 55 tons

[@ItsDavieman]

@@vkblue3409 uh, where are you getting these figures from, do you mean per torsion bar or something wacky cause the hull alone is more than that?

[@vkblue3409]

@@ItsDavieman when I said I don't think the suspension would handle the weight of the turret I meant that it was supposed to support the weight of the hull and the original turret adding up to around 130-145 tons if I remember correctly, a 55 ton turret would add 25 more tons making it 155-170 tons, but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong

[@vkblue3409]

@@ItsDaviemanhere are my sources: Tank Archive The National Interest Panzerworld Tanks Encyclopedia

[@vkblue3409]

@@ItsDavieman oh my bad I just re-checked and the turret was supposed to weigh 45.5 tons and the hull was supposed to weigh 86 tons... I was far off geez, anyway I hope I cleared my mistake, if I'm wrong anywhere you can still go ahead and correct me

[@average_war_thunderplayer]

I agree. You are right

[@wzr3293]

bro pulled out a source from wikipedia

[@nelsonsham2368]

Literally WoT has a more accurate depiction of E100 than WT...

[@anant-chan]

Tiger maus project

[@xbeastofoldxgaming3820]

This dude is wrong. The E-100 was going to have a heavier turret with a 150mm cannon. Which effectively would have been heavier but stronger. Dude's giving half baked facts and a really ridiculous end comment.

[@philippnagel6259]

Bro the e 100 had a much lighter but probably angled turret wich would have made it stronger else the turret would be way to heavy

[@SimonSenaviev]

Fun fact, the Maus's turret weight more thaj a fully crewed Tiger 1

[@rhenyll_posadas]

E 100 in wot is original

[@Forgottenkiller9621]

Thats wrong. they Had a turret planned for the E100 but there were many flaws so they planned to Just use the Maus turret since they got one in production😂😂 but nice try

[@Kalashnikov413]

The Maus turret was from the Tiger-Maus project and as some kind of "stopgap" design before the actual turret was decided

[@gpubenchmarks7905]

M1A2 Abrams: peace of cake 1 shot 1 kill

[@vkblue3409]

That's just about any tank with more that 280mm pen

[@exoticdachoo007]

... The Abrams came out like 30 years later though...

[@gpubenchmarks7905]

@@vkblue3409 how much can abrams penetrate

[@gpubenchmarks7905]

@@vkblue3409 and I think heat is not for penetration its like panzerfraust effect maybe

[@HappysMarshmallows]

@@gpubenchmarks7905 why are you comparing a late ww2 tank to a modern mbt

[@KenAgaro]

This is why i use Wot's E-100 and not WT's E-100

[@Dark_Knight101]

Idk, I heard the WOT turret was made up. To my knowledge the E100 was supposed to have something that looked like a big King Tiger turret

[@almightytwinkie2171]

Believe it or not, the World of Tanks version is more historically accurate, despite using a nonexistent turret. They based their turret on one of the 3 surviving prototype turrets

[@vitaminbleach1217]

I can’t believe world of tanks is more historically accurate for once

[@Antwuantheone]

Sigh* time to leak more documents

[@nizalmuhammad9689]

The turret it self have weight 50 ton, that's why they redesign maus turret with flat armor on the front to reduce weight

[@peashooter5495]

In wot E100 with turret E100

[@trulysushi]

Ok no one cares it's a game

[@VitaliiVoloshyn-m6r]

Bias explained

[@blitzsturm5614]

WT will never be as good as WOT, WT doesnt even donate to history or musuems. Pathetic game. Play WOT, your premium made the FV4007 working again

[@Kalashnikov413]

WT better than WoT

[@zee_terminator2850]

Of course a degenerate furry would say something so stupid, WT is vastly superior. WOT is completely P2W and garbage.

[@PologramotnyVidlak]

"Americas´s only super Heavy" sure, buddy

[@Remnantov]

The USA has more super heavies? Could you please give me their names that would be helpful, as I can’t find anything about another US super heavy except the T28, thanks.

[@PologramotnyVidlak]

@@Remnantov T29,T1,T30,T95... BUT THATS NOT THE POINT. E-100 is not american.

[@Remnantov]

The tanks you named here are heavy tanks not super heavy tanks. (Except for the T95 but that is the same vehicle as the T28) but of course the E-100 is not American, did I maybe accidentally say that somewhere?

[@PologramotnyVidlak]

@@Remnantov in the title bud

[@hansvonflammenwerfer2817]

@@PologramotnyVidlak That's a link to a different video Einstein

[@xAndrzej42]

I bet that proper turret would be more sloped, as e100 shows clear signs that Germans were going more into spaced armor and slopes to Def more from heat rounds.

[@prvt.harumi6821]

yeah no shit. But there's no E100 turret , only blueprints

[@philippnagel6259]

Fr

[@danmystro]

"Trust me bro"

[@HanatsukaSang_5281]

E100 tanks come in several Heavy tank, Tank destroyer, Artillery.

[@philippnagel6259]

Nah thats wot fantasy

[@Kalashnikov413]

Well at least an assault gun based on E-100 was proposed, though it would have similar appearance to the Jagdtiger and carried 15 cm L/63 cannon i believe

[@SN0BALL_]

I mean it’s better then WOT depiction of the e-100 and honestly it doesn’t seep so impossible that the e-100 could have had something very similar to the Maus turret and since the maus was only a prototype who knows maybe the maus turret was very unfinished and could have fit into the e-100 then

[@cruiseships_fan]

people look for the smallest thing to complain about like its perfectly fine how it is

[@immortal_lee2651]

Dude, did you even get involved in this story? The German designers only created the hull and planned to put the turret from the Maus, that's why it's like this in the War Thunder

[@hansvonflammenwerfer2817]

Nah, the turret would have broken the hull

[@Kalashnikov413]

The Maus turret was from the Tiger-Maus project and as some kind of "stopgap" design before the actual turret was decided

[@makdourmakdour4503]

Wow E-100 was wrong in WT CARRO ARMATO L3/33 was wrong in WOT

[@calamitist]

I would love to see the entire Entwicklung series tanks in war thunder, Such beasts ( E-50, E-75, E-100 could be br 7 to 8) but they will be harassed by heat

[@phoenixpingu]

The gun is accurate too in WoT too. I think they intended to use a 15 or 16 cm gun for E-100. But for example IS-6 is inaccurate in w WT too. They used IS-6 wooden mock-up instead of the real IS-6

[@dun8dunmelonplayground1]

for anybody asking, the song is Cephei MC's Summer 1941

[@kfpakd5428]

So wot is actually correct with its information for once? FINALLY!

[@TurbotheFurbo]

This is an instance i would be fine with a paper design so E-100 can have accurate turret

[@cookiekiler032cook5]

It was because the Russians found the Hull and the turrets at the same factory and decided that that's how the machine was going to be built-in the end so they just stuck them together

[@Kalashnikov413]

That's the Maus, not the E-100

[@frankstump62]

$2000 for something that aint historically accurate even though there was no way of finding out probaly

[@MarkStillPlays]

idk about you guys but I don't care about paper tanks, the more interesting vehicles we get, the better nuclear powered tv-8 when btw

[@landonstockton4016]

Also, the reason why Wunder put the mouse on it was because in the plans that were building the E100 there was it drawing that looks exactly like the mouses turret so well you know they could’ve been putting a mouse on the E100

[@philippnagel6259]

That was the Tigermaus not the E 100

[@FishingWithSails]

If they're adding blueprint tanks, they should've added the Pz. VII Löwe. Tho there are many different variants and blueprints, all shared the same hull and turret design. Iirc, the most popular design Germany would've gone with was probably the 80t version, featuring the 10.5cm KwK 46 gun and the DB 602 diesel engine, putting out around 1100bhp. I would think it would be around 7.0-7.3 and it would probably be played similarly to an IS tank with a long reload, but had decent armor to most shells in it's BR bracket, except for HEAT. Sorry, I nerded out cause I really like the Löwe.

[@94umkilla]

Nah, they should add the Panzer IV with the schmalturm

[@SediAgameRbaD]

The p43 had a wooden mockup and several blueprints too, but i dont see that in game 🤔

[@GabrielBoeri]

Ironic that WoT actually has something more historically accurate than WT

[@mj4iq792]

I remember seen picture the the gun turret should look somthing like tiger 2 I dont know how real its

[@STHV_]

That turret is fictional and was created by model makers, it then got picked up by several model kit companies that then produced kits of it that came packaged with some nonsense fake history of the turret.

[@BoatIsBoat]

I guess, you can say that this depiction is more of an accurate depiction of Krupp's Tiger Maus rather than being E-100. Make it 130 tons, and add a muzzle breaker on the 128mm, and you got a lore accurate Tiger Maus. If u really want the closest to what we would have gotten to an E-100, take a look at World Of Tanks's depiction of E-100. Its the most accurate in terms of looks.

[@philippnagel6259]

The tigermaus transmission and turret differd from the E 100

[@berserkermaniac8697]

It's not Impossible. They could've just shaved down some of the armor I. The turret or making the suspension better. Something the Germans loved to do

[@my_name_lucas]

In history, there is "Maus" and "Maus II" they had same guns but turrets are different Maus had well known turret but Maus II had square shaped turret that prevent shot trap and Maus II's turret is same one with warthunder E-100's turret also E-100 had 2 types of turret like Maus at the beginning of E-100 Project there will be maus turret (this is warthunder one) but changed to square turret (this is WoT one) warthunder used early E-100 model and WoT used late E-100 model so thats why warthunder and WoT E-100 are different the only thing warthunder E-100's inaccurate thing is main gun there will be one 15cm kwk will be be mounted like WoTb but in warthunder E-100 have 2 guns

[@leopardone2386]

Finally someone says it! You mention this amongst most people who play, and it's just 🦗. Then those same people tought Warthunder as "Historical."

[@T-34-85M]

I've seen in I don't remember where, that there were 4 E 100 turret designs, Posrche's Maus Turret, Krupp turret used in WOT, a Henschel turret and a Adler Turret, I repeat, I don't remember where I saw it

[@TheWingedBarrel]

Are we really talking about war thunder’s realism? No offense, but WoT almost added a Sherman with a T-34 turret ffs

[@Runic_Dwarf]

You're right and wrong. WoT used the actual turret design of the tank with false armor values, while the early E-100 blueprints used the Maus turret as a placeholder. Hence why WT uses the Maus turret as it is based of early blueprints

[@RussyRassy-xi7ll]

i mean, they can make changes so the turret has only 100mm for the sides and back, but its the german's fault for even creating the maus...

[@LeandroHeyres]

This is why Wt players are leaking classified documents for having unrealistic tanks

[@realist0642]

I wouldnt call it wrong. Its an early design, which shows the first planed version of the E 100. The final turret we can see in WoT and WoT Blitz is just made after the final blueprints. Ofc none of these versions were ever completed.

[@rojemon5785]

But there are plans for it

[@DemiurgicDreamer69]

I hate to be this guy because I love the e100 but only world of tanks got it right but yes the turret didn't exist but it existed on blueprints so we know exactly how much it would have weighed and what it would have looked like and yes it would not have had the maus turret. It would of had a flat face boxy turret with a 128mm to 150-8ish mm with 75mm coax.

[@normanarmslave5144]

ALSO its been missed to be pointed out that the World of Tanks E100 turret will not be easy to be penetrated due to its flat armor and easy to be angled

[@professionalredneck7920]

Yeah. I just wish Gaijin would actually let you earn it again! So stupid they only have one event to earn it which was like 10 years ago and never had it again so new players don't get a chance to play it unless they have deep pockets. The game is so broken right now anyways the E100 being a researchable tank wouldn't really change much anyways.

[@dennisweiser8961]

maybe it could rather have the turret of the panzer VII Löwe, it would make *some * sense and wouldnt be too heavy I think

[@Mamaulli18]

Bro using world of tanks as a source of information for models is the same as using wikipedia for an school essay 💀