The E3D Revo VORON - THE rigid mount heatsink for the Revo Ecosystem

[@mr_voron]

Working with E3D on this was a wild joy ride. They are an incredible engineering house with an infectious passion for designing better printing systems. I hope we can collaborate with them further in the future.

[@bernardtarver]

As long as you guys are "volunteering" your time, I'm sure E3D's bottom line would love to further collab.

[@Grimmwoldds]

@@bernardtarver Can I interest you in proprietary nozzles that are incredibly expensive? I feel it's a bit disingenuous that he didn't mention this when he said "Revo ecosystem". Apple, HP, and Dymo say "Hi"

[@E3DOnline]

What a fantastic response to this announcement, it's been an absolute pleasure working with Voron Design team and we hope to collab on more projects in the future. Just a quick note to say that individual heatsinks will be available at launch, you will not need to purchase another complete HotEnd. Thanks, Team E3D

[@tonnyprasetya48]

But the flow rate still maxed out at 15/mm3/s I wonder if e3d revo six will have higher flow rate?

[@KyleBarker]

I was looking for a way to honour Sanjay with my trident build, and now I know how I will do that! As soon as I saw the Sanjay logo on the StealthBurner it brought a tear to my eye, nice one Voron Design team!

[@timlong7289]

It was a nice touch putting a tribute to Sanjay on the print head, I approve of that. It speaks volumes that the little line graphic is instantly recognizable, even to someone who's never owned anything made by e3d.

[@Akegata42]

I'm awating the Stealthburner as much as everyone, but seeing Sanjay there made me absolutely certain I will replace my Afterburner as soon as SB is out of beta. Really a great touch.

[@hartk5353]

ITS HAPPENING!

[@malcolmnorman5237]

That is so exciting! Currently building my V0.1 hot end mount. Definitely going to look at ordering one. Just wish I could hit the smash button multiple times.

[@colinhare4722]

I've modified a voron 2.4 printer head to accept the new revo micro with the M12 thread modelled into the ABS and the orbiter v2.0 direct drive. Took a bit of re-modelling and the revo may take a while to arrive but it's looking good. Happy to share once I've proved it all works of course.

[@jeezusjr]

I can't wait to buy a few of these! Already have my Revo on pre-order, but will pick up another in support of this.

[@thelightspeed3d712]

The Voron is arguably the fastest printer you can build. The revo has a max flow rate of 10mm^3sec? That’s like a top speed of 83mm/second using a 0.4 nozzle and standard layer heights. The revo is going to choke at speed. I’m tryin to understand the interest here. I’m sure the revo has a place, but on a Voron or a delta?

[@TheBasil36]

@@thelightspeed3d712 not everyone is hunting speed. The ability to rapidly add or pull heat from the revo hot end should allow more precise temp when changing speed or direction. It’s a scalpel, if you need an axe get a rapido. Oh and it’s new a different.

[@thelightspeed3d712]

@@TheBasil36 I didn’t say that. But if you get a Voron speed is the main reason to buy one. A Ender 3 can print as good but is ridiculously slow right? The revo is a scalpel? Lol. I would say Revo is a choke point until someone does more tests

[@Ktmfly3r]

Love the nod to Sanjay. That's touching

[@andrewkowalczyk1156]

Is it bad that, although I have a V1.8 the first thought I had was 'Wow this would be an AMAZING update for my delta', grove mount on it is the bane of existence for nozzle changes

[@MLassiLD]

Sneaky sneaky by Stephan. I believe he sent Revo Voron parts in my PIF order since I told him I ordered the V6 just because I was holding off for the Revo. I wondered why there was two heat end mounts in the package.

[@nate7516]

Great video! This is exciting and I think I may have to grab one of these when they are available for my v0.1. Thank you for your work!

[@KennethScharf]

The Revo Creality is also a rigid mount, and is small and light weight. It might fit in the V0 as an option. Note that it comes stock with a different thermister to match the Ender HW, but the heater is physically the same as the other Revo's, so that can be swapped out.

[@efnick96]

This thing is simply BEAUTIFUL

[@tomcapon4447]

I can't wait for the LDO V0.2 kits to arrive! Looks like they have made the Revo Voron standard equipment, at least for the preorders.

[@hellterminator]

Wish they didn't. Throwing out a $10 piece of junk (a V6 clone) to replace it with something sensible is fine. Throwing out a $100 piece of junk kinda hurts.

[@koenvanduffel2084]

Yes as indicated in the movie I will design the mount for the Creality CR-6 and add it to the series.

[@MartinSchoenbacher]

Great Video and super cool news about the Revo! My inner Monk just goes haywire with that twisted shoulder strap 😂

[@Toonhenry]

Can't wait for release and for some Canadian vendors to start carrying it.

[@Yuris-3D]

Awesome! Is there a direct link to Revo Voron? Don't see it on E3D page...

[@CodeMonkeX]

The E3D tweet said it will not be "released" until after they have shipped the pre-orders for all the current Revo orders (Micro and V6 style). So I do not think we will be allowed to order yet.

[@DivyesshSivakumar]

where do you get the mini-afterburner cad for the voron 0.1

[@johanjotun1647]

I'm looking to resume my part soarcing journey, I got the PIF parts from 1/21/22... Afterburner I believe, would this hotend work with that version, I have yet to buy the electronic parts beyond the meanwells and the rasburyPi.

[@MD-NWWI]

Very cool! Now I need to do some upgrades!

[@0rbitalxs957]

Just ordered a revo six, once I get my printer up and running I might try and design something for the voron and order that heatsync

[@MichaelSnively]

Damn.. I have a Phaetus Voron HF Edition arriving tomorrow for my 2.4 350 build... ahh. well.. Maybe for a trident later....Good job Voron Design... keep up the good work.

[@hellterminator]

Nah, mate, you lucked out. You get similar (probably a bit higher, actually) performance and you're not locked into overpriced proprietary nozzles.

[@DaveDDD]

Once it’s in red you know it’s the best in class.

[@ldomotorsjason3488]

We want it!

[@honoredtwig3298]

Heck yeah! LDO kits with the Revo Voron included!

[@hellterminator]

Have you guys considered selling kits with a more sensible hotend like the Rapido 2? Feels kinda bad throwing away a hotend that costs $100, but the Revo is just too slow for anything except maybe a Switchwire. And don't get me started on those outrageously priced proprietary nozzles.

[@marsgizmo]

great design of the heatsink! 👏😎

[@krobzzzz]

That hotend looks very cool ironically Probably it will get into other ecosystems outside of Voron, if not because of the looks, then because of the gram chasing

[@gryzman]

I’ve preordered my revo, starts shipping in March - so long way to go still

[@nekowafer]

NGL. I cried a bit when I saw Sanjay modeled into the Stealthburner mount.

[@BladeScraper]

Omg, I didn't even see that at first. Got me tearing up :')

[@DetlevRackow]

Unfortunately you won't see much of the red, but it's there. I love that :)

[@toddcoello6461]

I have the revo micro. I run Klipper but I ma not sure what changes to make. From stock sensor. I couldn't find it on E3d site.

[@Dark_Knightro]

I will say. The camera is extra crispy.

[@joshua43214]

I got all excited for a moment. Then I saw the heatsink design :( All the weight and size savings are mitigated by the curvy (form over function?) fins that require a bulky and heavy fan mount. I would buy this in a heartbeat if I could use the clip on fan than is standard for E3D hotends.

[@joshua43214]

@@WhiteG60 yep, it has been optimized for a design where no simple solution can be used where an overly-complex solution exists. Seriously though, just listen to your excuse for the failing of the Voron team - they could have simply kept the heat sink not curvy and it would fit the Voron toolhead just fine.

[@dragonfist]

can you test if you can print PC on that(those 300 degrees on specs might be a bit lower)

[@alexdubois6585]

Great work. Could anyone reply with the expected flowrate for ABS? Thanks...

[@CanuckCreator]

As the heater/nozzle portion is the same as all revo`s, around 16-18mm3/s

[@olorf]

Specs say 10 mm³/s

[@CanuckCreator]

@@olorf Ya, not sure how they got that number, but remember there is no accepted industry standard for "flow rate" marketing 16-18mm3/s is real world numbers of what im running

[@brianwaayenberg3099]

Any advantage “ridged mount” bs the micros large locking nut? Seems to me the large locking bug would have far more surface area to stabilize the assembly long term..? Both look sweet mind you.

[@joshua43214]

You are correct, the micro will be much more rigid and will not have issues with the screws compressing the plastic. The advantage is that the heatsink will not rotate when loosening the nozzle - whish is not a problem on the Revo.

[@AndrewAHayes]

Im holding out for the Long Schlong Dong by Vzbot, I have watched its development and its excellent performance, I like the Revo and would have bought one if the hardened steel nozzles that were promised had materialised but they havent and my money for a new hotend is going on the LSD!

[@daveolson9424]

I liked the smash button.. good review

[@BirdsEyeTech]

@NERO 3D, who makes the filament holder in the background? I need one of those! Thanks!

[@CanuckCreator]

Its called a repbox www.repkord.com/products/repbox-2-the-3d-printing-spool-management-solution

[@BirdsEyeTech]

@@CanuckCreator thanks so much! Ordered!

[@jakubmierzejewski961]

Doesn't prusa mini have integrated lead screw into motor?

[@allanarthur769]

where can i get the stl for this hot end or which one do i use

[@HackMonkey]

Ridged mounted Revo! Bingo!!!!

[@Jandodev]

I neeeeeeeeeeeed it

[@ricardo-iw9sq]

might be a stupid question but why do you need a ptfe tube either make the nozzle longer so it sticks out the top or put some copper or stainless tube in then you dont need to worry about the ptfe melting when pushing the speeds, sorry if it sounds dumb.

[@CanuckCreator]

The ptfe sits about the heatbreak completely so nowhere near the "hot" zone, and you need something to guide the filament between the extruder and the small diameter of the revo heatbreak

[@AndyGJorgensen]

Will there be a way to order just the heat sink if we get the micro first to adapt it?

[@CanuckCreator]

Yes

[@AndyGJorgensen]

@@CanuckCreator thanks that's awesome

[@belenhedderich3330]

Hi thank you! Any news of the max temp it can print? can it print Nylon?

[@antoniobabich3583]

I want one. Even just for my Ender-3. And I couldn't find the Smash Button to like it. So I smashed the Like Button instead. 🤣

[@sidbyron210]

which kind of materials are compatible?

[@CanuckCreator]

Anything sub 300c and non abrasive (until the hardened nozzles come out that is)

[@stevenshizzle]

What kind of filament for the clear stealthburner front plate? That's very attractive.

[@CanuckCreator]

Actually its resin, siraya tech smokey black iirc

[@stevenshizzle]

@@CanuckCreator gosh that's super neat. Thanks for sharing!

[@rmfberry261]

being that much lighter how does that effect is heatsink properties? need more airflow to prevent heat creep?

[@CanuckCreator]

E3D did full thermal validation,they found Revo Voron thermal performance to be better than v6 but not quite as good as Revo Micro, but very close. RevoVoron is smaller, less surface area, but benefits from a larger fan than revo micro. With revo there is a lot less heat to deal with in the first place. You can also nearly double thermal performance by applying thermal grease at the cold side threads, but that should not be necessary unless you run really hot chambers. TL;DR will cool just fine

[@hunterg312]

Will it work with the afterburner?

[@CanuckCreator]

There should be a compatible mount by release yes

[@geoff1740]

So if we already per-ordered a Revo micro, will the cold side be for sale by itself later or do we need to buy a whole new hotend?

[@E3DOnline]

Hi Geoff, sinks will be available :)

[@fwiffo]

The heat sink is smaller than the other Revo versions. How's the cooling performance?

[@CanuckCreator]

E3D did full thermal validation, found Revo Voron thermal performance to be better than v6 but not quite as good as Revo Micro. RevoVoron is smaller, less surface area, but benefits from a larger fan than revo micro. With revo there is a lot less heat to deal with in the first place. You can also nearly double thermal performance by applying thermal grease at the cold side threads, but that should not be necessary unless you run really hot chambers. TL;DR will cool just fine

[@fwiffo]

@@CanuckCreator Cool, that's what I figured. I've got a HF hotend in my V0, and it's been able to cope, so I'm sure it'll be fine.

[@cleosynthesis]

Can I change the nozzle one-handed like on the Dragon? Moreover, can I change it while the hotend is cold?

[@Raymond-u8x]

Yes and yes. And even better. Without tools.

[@CubicleCalvary]

Looks cool, any idea on pricing?

[@JohnKlopp]

Awesomeness!

[@victorpricejr]

Anyone know ETA for either to be available?

[@KyleBarker]

the Revo Voron will be available in march at some point, once the Revo pre-orders have been fulfilled

[@3DPrintingFreak]

When will it be availible , and where ?

[@mghumphrey]

Don't see it on the E3D site. When will it be available for pre-order?

[@CanuckCreator]

Unsure if e3d is doing pre-orders at this time, filastruder is taking sign up for notifications when it will be in stock

[@TR7H]

Awesome! Thanks for your great work guys! Ps. What is that glorious transparent material the stealth burner was printed in?

Nero said it was printed with resin on a previous livestream.

[@matthewdolman]

Love this, will definitely buy this if I can get it shipped to china

[@RuslanBalkin]

Wow! Great hotend

[@habitforming11]

Slightly off topic, but what power screwdriver are you using toward the end of the video?

[@CanuckCreator]

Es126

[@Marko62744]

Whole Rapid Change looks like a copy of Protoprint Raptor which was much earlier on market before releasing of E3D. They use even a DLC coating and call it E3DLC, Protoprint stops using DLC and moves to another more suitable coating. And also there might be an IP problem in near future because Raptor is patent pending.

[@Raymond-u8x]

They are completely different designs. Only similar things are the heaterblock being round. The way the heater is made is different. How the nozzles fit are different.

[@Marko62744]

@@Raymond-u8x You are partly right. Some changes have been made. The problem, however, is that IP also completely covers the whole concept of how the E3D nozzle fits.

[@xgeko2]

I love the smash button lol!!

[@rowlandstraylight]

Gotta order a few of these

[@AehreWemAereGebuehrt]

When will the V0.1 toolhead for the Revo become available?

[@CanuckCreator]

It`ll be available by the time the Revo Voron is available for purchase

[@krukhlis]

It looks great! But there is No Revo Voron available on E3D site yet. Even for preoreder. It's micro, regular and Hemera versions only. Is it a bug in a link or E3D is not ready yet?

[@CanuckCreator]

E3D atm is unsure if they`ll do pre-orders for it, its available for notification on filastruder atm

[@Jexinator]

HOT DAMN 🔥🔥🔥

[@jackshett]

Neat!

[@proto_hexagon5649]

5:49 you win 10g with smaller heatsink but 6:45 add so much plastic for blower.

[@BigPapiLoc]

Thank god it uses m3 screws I literally went to 3 different stores just to get m2.5 screws when building my 2.4 I hate those stupid little screws

[@NinjaZX900E]

Is it already known which vendors will provide this in the EU?

[@CanuckCreator]

It will be an official e3d product, so most likely the usual resellers

[@yoni9600]

thanks for the video. do you have an affiliate link for the screw driver with the bits?

[@CanuckCreator]

sure thing, its an es126 www.banggood.com/custlink/KG3d65beOQ

[@yoni9600]

@@CanuckCreator thanks

[@Caiusdestruktus]

Nice Work

[@doa_form]

With an incredible flow capacity of 10 mm3/s!!😅🤣

[@CanuckCreator]

Real world Revo gets 16-18mm3/s least thats what im getting out of it printing ABS

[@DenisOvod]

what's your take on Phaetus Rapido vs E3d Revo?

[@CanuckCreator]

ive had zero issues with flow rates with my profiles with revo with the .4 nozzle, if you want to go dummy fast WITH a large nozzle you need high flow

[@DenisOvod]

@@CanuckCreator and Revo has no hardened steel nozzles yet :/

[@DanKronholm]

Take my money!

[@1967friend]

Prusa has had a Nema17, lead screw shaft stepper motor in the MMU for many years now. Granted not long enough to use practically on a Z axis. No offense, but I don’t think you can take credit for creating that one.

[@Raymond-u8x]

Look. STUFF!

[@Orselonn]

I really hate when the heatsink is loose, that's why I don't like the V6 very much, I also hated dragon because it uses m2.5 that rolls easily, when I saw that it uses a simple M3x8 I immediately thought of changing.

[@DenisOvod]

and we can use Ti screws to save a bit more weight, lol

[@starkastic]

Gah. Time to cancel pre-order for the micro.

[@slimanus8m]

Did you get a new camera? :) UHD

[@CanuckCreator]

couple months back picked up a sony a6400 for the stand alone videos

[@slimanus8m]

@@CanuckCreatorGreat ROI

[@rexxx927]

heats nozzle sises prices thermostat pt100??

[@PedroLamas]

So... where's the source files?

[@Raymond-u8x]

They will be released later under GPLv3

[@PedroLamas]

Awesome, thank you@@Raymond-u8x!! I have an Ender-3 V2 with a Manta MK2 toolhead and would be very interested in designing a mount for this new heatsink, hence why I am asking for the CAD! I already pre-ordered a Revo Micro but I do hope E3D (and maybe others) will also make and sell the heatsink as an accessory!

[@evandelisle]

Nice, was there a little hit in the interview with Sanjay M kzbin.info/www/bejne/f5zIhnimp5Kkq9U

[@thelightspeed3d712]

I have a question. Vorons are fast right? Why are you guys chasing the lowest flow hotend for the Vorons? 10mm^3Sec is less than a V6? I’m confused genuinely on this decision. What’s the attraction?

[@CanuckCreator]

Not sure why they are listing 10mm3/s, thats very conservative, it runs 16-18mm3/s printing abs just fine, and has no issues keeping up with most typical profiles for the voron.

[@thelightspeed3d712]

@@CanuckCreator can you test it? It seems almost for sure wrong right?

[@CanuckCreator]

Someone else on the team did the flow rate tests awhile back, it outperforms most older style Standard flow hotends by a bit, i just checked my slicer profile, i actually have it capped at 19mm3/s which it hits during infil @ 120mm/s with a .4 nozzle with .72mm flow @.2 lh

[@thelightspeed3d712]

@@CanuckCreator Yeah that makes me believe it's actually correct. The reason is that we all know slicer settings are setting "limits" for the print. We need to have some independent tests. Maybe at the next big KZbinr conference, you can get Stephan from CNC kitchen to take it on. I am not sure how to test it myself. But I believe E3D's rating from what I have seen is "average" flow, "sustained" over a set amount of time. So assuming you can get 16mm^3s it probably is 10mm^3s. I am surprised no one is doing the science yet.

[@ryangadz3068]

I was really excited by this until I read "maximum temperature of 300°C" ... thats not going to work for me sadly

[@CanuckCreator]

The hotside is the same as all Revo`s, so limited by thermistor accuracy and the silicon sock max temp

[@darren990]

does that mean you have to have a voron ..to own one lol

[@l3d-3dmaker58]

well, funnily enough I know just the hotend that's smaller, lighter, rigider, more powerful and most importantly, red🤣

[@l3d-3dmaker58]

still, I'm glad to see people evolving products, rigid mount is the way to go!

[@mongini1]

M3 screws?!?! SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEYZ!

[@jakefromstatefarm8545]

I love you 😘

[@ChrisLaudermilk]

I threw money at the screen but nothing happened.

[@Xamy-]

Noice

[@AcrimoniousMirth]

Ummm…. YES PLEASE!!!!

[@SrOw-_-]

Too bad this thing almsot costs the price of my whole printer

[@CephDigital]

I dont need it.... I dont need it...

[@possiblyneil4978]

They built it though...

[@devancochran2947]

We need it.

[@kaihorstmann2783]

A great philospher who wrote on a Chinese fortune cookie said: "The best way to deal with a temptation is to succumb to it". 😁