The Early Church was the Catholic Church w/Joe Heschmeyer

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Keith Nester

Keith Nester

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Catholic Answers Apologist Joe Heschmeyer joins Keith to discuss his new book "The Early Church was the Catholic Church". This fascinating conversation deal with the misconception many people have that the earliest Christians looked more like modern-day baptists, rather than Roman Catholics.
What does the evidence show and why does it matter for us today? Don't miss this.
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@douglashaugen3931
@douglashaugen3931 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Keith, I became Catholic Saturday night. Thanks for your conversion story, it helped get me started on my journey!
@reginagamboa3499
@reginagamboa3499 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome Home
@jellojenna6
@jellojenna6 2 жыл бұрын
:D Welcome home. I'm glad to hear this.
@marcihf217
@marcihf217 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome Home. Glory to God.
@danp.torreja2777
@danp.torreja2777 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome home brother❤️
@empackmanmueller1725
@empackmanmueller1725 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome home, will pray for you and your family. I am cradle catholic was away from church for over 20 years, going to various denominations. But the holy spirit led me back home. I know go to mass 3 times a week, do eucharistic , and have had God speak to me. My wife who was methodist also came into the catholic church ,after she heard God tell her to come into his church...godbless
@angelahagemeyer698
@angelahagemeyer698 2 жыл бұрын
"Alot of protestants assume it's not the same because they have never looked at the evidence". Yes! It is said, "To read the church father's is to cease to be Protestant". That was my own conversion in a nutshell.
@johnyang1420
@johnyang1420 2 жыл бұрын
Nice!!! Welcome home!!!
@agneskiganda7113
@agneskiganda7113 2 жыл бұрын
Woooooo welcome home
@bobtosi9346
@bobtosi9346 2 жыл бұрын
When I started reading the church fathers it was the same for me.
@kendaugherty3828
@kendaugherty3828 2 жыл бұрын
If you're not Catholic, you assume that that person must be a Protestant. I am a follower of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. I am a Christian. If only Catholics were Christians but they're not. You belong to the Church that says in the Catechism of the Catholic Church (number 841) that the "plan of salvation also includes...in the first place... the Muslims." How can this be? Muslims deny that Jesus is the Son of God they deny His death and resurrection and they do not believe Jesus is the Creator of the universe. Yet, the Catholic Church has granted salvation to the Muslims. Pretty sad isn't!? I'm sure you don't think so. You will believe anything the Catholic Church says. Back in 1985, Pope John Paul II told Muslim youth in Morocco that"Christians and Muslims have many things in common...we believe in the same God." Again that's a lie. Muslims call Jesus Christ a liar in their hearts everyday! Every year your Church sends greetings to the Muslims during Ramadan and to the Hindus and Buddhists during their so-called holy festivals. You belong to the Catholic church that called for "global Government" back in 2011. In the official Vatican document calling for a "World Public Authority," towards the end in the conclusion, it talks about nations giving up their power to the World Public Authority and that it is the "spirit of Babel" to bring humanity together as "one family." Your Church's "mission" is to [restore] and [bear] witness to the unity lost at Babel." Jesus said He didn't come to bring "peace" but a "sword." (i.e. division) And it begins with the family. (Ref. Matthew 10:34- 36) So, your Church is trying to bring worldwide peace which is the plan of the Antichrist!!! You belong to the Church that believes in the "redistribution of wealth" across the planet. This is from the Social Doctrine of the Catholic Church. It also says that "wealth exist to be shared" and "any accumulation of wealth is immoral." This is coming from the Catholic Church that's worth billions. Your Church is working with big business to reframe capitalism with some of the largest companies in the world. Did you know any of this??? You really need to ask yourself, is this the Church that Jesus founded, or is it the Church of the Antichrist? The latter, not the former, is the answer.
@rhwinner
@rhwinner 2 жыл бұрын
Frankly, they could care less about the historic Church. They follow the Protestant religion, and that means interpreting the Bible according to a very narrow and often faulty set of presuppositions.
@lidiamichael3582
@lidiamichael3582 2 жыл бұрын
18:32 "The idea that the Holy Spirit would lead two people to different conclusions is such a mockery of God." Bingo! And yet that is the justification for the the thousands of protestant churches cropping up everyday.
@juans6639
@juans6639 2 жыл бұрын
At present, there are TWO Protestants Religions PER DAY being founded in COMMIE-FORNIA alone.
@docJamesE1318
@docJamesE1318 2 ай бұрын
And you may say to let a human being on earth have the power of absolution and to Crucify Christ at the Eucharist week after week makes a mockery of Jesus single act of Redemption….. why a puppet speaking blasphemous words seeking to change times and Laws is warned against over and over in Revelation. The grace of Our Lord Jesus Christ be upon All the World. Amen
@lidiamichael3582
@lidiamichael3582 2 ай бұрын
​@@docJamesE1318 Jesus Christ himself gave the power of absolution to His apostles and their spiritual descendants (the bishops and priest). It would be a mockery to tell Jesus that He can't do that. Please study more about the Catholic mass. It is obvious by your statement that you do not understand. Catholics do NOT crucify Christ again and again as you accuse.
@docJamesE1318
@docJamesE1318 2 ай бұрын
@@lidiamichael3582 mockery to tell a brother in Christ that your way is the only way to God. “For as the Heavens are higher than earth, My ways are Higher than yor ways and My thoughts than yours” said the Lord God
@wolfthequarrelsome504
@wolfthequarrelsome504 Ай бұрын
@@docJamesE1318 You mock the words of Christ with your blasphemy. Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven; whose sins you shall retain, are retained.”. Christ gave to power to forgive sin to the church which it exercises today. The sacrifice of the Mass is a "CONTINUING SACRIFICE", not every time. Those words are from the rite of Mass.
@danp.torreja2777
@danp.torreja2777 2 жыл бұрын
James 2:18 But someone will say, “You have faith; I have deeds.” Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by my deeds.
@MariaB..
@MariaB.. 2 жыл бұрын
Even John the Baptist taught about deeds/fruits. Luke 3:7-9 ... [Verse 8:] "BEAR FRUITS IN KEEPING WITH REPENTANCE."...
@ritamiria7942
@ritamiria7942 9 ай бұрын
Excellent comment
@albertoascari2542
@albertoascari2542 2 жыл бұрын
A great talk today.. I will have to get that book..As a former Anglican I always wondered about all these English Church of England Churches I visited for Services . They have the Saints Name some of which are local Saints names who came here to Britain to convert people in the early Catholic period 1000 years Pre reformation. I have seen them with the Appostles Creed Displayed, even little Nods to Mary with a Small Marian Figurine, they have Biblical Stained Glass. A lot of these Churches are Pre Reformation such as Norman or even Saxon and I was always left thinking these used to be Catholic Churches. The Reformation stripped them of Frecoes, Saints Statues etc. But the Catholic Church is always present in the shadows of these Churches . I found my faith came fully alive when I prayed the Rosary and intercession of the Saints that's why I became Catholic because God called me there
@KeithNester
@KeithNester 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! God bless you Alberto
@nittowobs8701
@nittowobs8701 Жыл бұрын
@ritamiria7942
@ritamiria7942 9 ай бұрын
Powerful Message
@mairint3975
@mairint3975 9 ай бұрын
Sadly, and in connection with your observation of Church building origins, the two cathedrals in Dublin, Christchurch and, believe it or not, St. Patrick’s Cathedral, have been under Protestant occupation since Ireland was invaded by England. An matter that really disturbed me is the Relic, the heart of St. Lawrence O’Toole, once Archbishop of Dublin (an ancestor or mine) is locked in an iron cage in Christchurch Cathedral. The Church of England, King Henry VIII’s church, knows no shame as they continue possessing those Buildings, and many more.
@ritamiria7942
@ritamiria7942 9 ай бұрын
Wow wow amazing I love your story and God bless your journey home
@douglasdde376
@douglasdde376 2 жыл бұрын
Powerful is an understatement, it’s such a shame we need to defend our place in history, but what you have shared can restore our passion for the truth and living it.
@angelahagemeyer698
@angelahagemeyer698 2 жыл бұрын
"You won't have much of a tree". Exactly!
@danp.torreja2777
@danp.torreja2777 2 жыл бұрын
Acts 2:46 They worshiped together at the Temple each day, met in homes for the Lord’s Supper, and shared their meals with great joy and generosity
@MyJustOpinion
@MyJustOpinion 2 жыл бұрын
I really feel sorry for Protestants who are living and the dead who have not received Jesus Christ through the Eucharist. This opportunity was stolen from them by Martin Luther.
@bgsab7912
@bgsab7912 2 жыл бұрын
Right, Mike. Luther (1517) caused more harm than any other 'reformist.' And reading his books, I was really shocked by his anti semitism. Suppose he was born around 1910 he would be the right hand of Heinrich Himmler.
@joecastillo8798
@joecastillo8798 2 жыл бұрын
@Mike Anderson Mike, Excellent point! The harm this man caused by his disobedience, inspired by the chief disobedient Satan, is inimaginable. So many souls lost forever. Hopefully, the poor ignorant got a reprieve in Purgatory. God bless.
@wolfthequarrelsome504
@wolfthequarrelsome504 2 жыл бұрын
@@joecastillo8798 he was a disturbed individual.
@joecastillo8798
@joecastillo8798 2 жыл бұрын
@@wolfthequarrelsome504 Pat, You are right. His behavior confirms it. God bless.
@ambu6478
@ambu6478 Жыл бұрын
You are right! As a convert to The Church, the first time I was allowed to partake of the Eucharist was the most amazing spiritual experience in my life!! I feel sorry for those that have never had the chance to receive The Body and Blood of our Lord in the Eucharist!!
@debbiekirk2999
@debbiekirk2999 Жыл бұрын
God Bless you Keith and Joe!! 🙏✝️
@EpoRose1
@EpoRose1 2 жыл бұрын
Reading his book now! Along with Bishop Schneider‘s The Catholic Mass. They go together surprisingly well!
@harmonicamikemerrill1715
@harmonicamikemerrill1715 2 жыл бұрын
Saw this on FB so I just had to watch. God Bless you.
@cozyhomemakingvibes
@cozyhomemakingvibes 2 жыл бұрын
So excited for this one. Loved Pope Peter.
@cozyhomemakingvibes
@cozyhomemakingvibes 2 жыл бұрын
@@nightshade99 it’s the name of one of Joe Heschmeyer’s other books on Church history. It’s called Pope Peter. It’s extremely well written.
@cozyhomemakingvibes
@cozyhomemakingvibes 2 жыл бұрын
@@nightshade99 read it and see? God bless❤️
@cozyhomemakingvibes
@cozyhomemakingvibes 2 жыл бұрын
@@nightshade99 I am. ❤️ Jesus used scripture to lead me to His Church.
@cozyhomemakingvibes
@cozyhomemakingvibes 2 жыл бұрын
@@nightshade99 God bless❤️
@julieevanish3601
@julieevanish3601 2 жыл бұрын
@@cozyhomemakingvibes Yes you are In the Church founded by Christ. Joseph Father/Prime Minister to Pharoah: Gen 45:8 "So now it was not you who sent me here, but God; and He has made me a father to Pharaoh, and lord of all his house, and a ruler throughout all the land of Egypt." Succession/Prime Minister/Father/Priest Before First Temple Destroyed: Isaiah 22:19 And I will drive thee from thy station, and from thy state shall he pull thee down. Isaiah 22:20-22 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will call my servant Eliakim the son of Hilkiah: 21 And I will clothe him with thy robe, and trengthen him with thy girdle, and I will commit thy government into his hand: and he shall be a father to the inhabitants of Jerusalem, and to the house of Judah. Keys to the Kingdom 22 And the key of the house of David will I lay upon his shoulder; so he shall open, and none shall shut; and he shall shut, and none shall open Anchored and fixed/before Temple Destroyed: Isaiah22:23 And I will fasten him as a nail in a sure place; and he shall be for a glorious throne to his father's house. 24 And they shall hang upon him all the glory of his father's house, the offspring and the issue, all vessels of small quantity, from the vessels of cups, even to all the vessels of flagons. NT/Anchor/keys/Pope/before Temple Destroyed Mathew 16:18-19 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven Solomons/Ministers/Kings 1Kings 4:7 And Solomon had twelve officers over all Israel, which provided rituals for the king and his household: each man his month in a year made provision. Apostles/Ministers/Kings Mathew 19:28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. Luke 22:29-30 And I appoint unto you a kingdom, as my Father hath appointed unto me;30 That ye may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
@vanzealotbush2244
@vanzealotbush2244 Жыл бұрын
This is mind blowing. Real good stuff Keith. As a cradle Catholic who once converted to Pentecostal, I could relate much to it. That conversion to a protestant church motivated me to research and know more about the Catholic Church. Eventually, I returned home to the Catholic faith with more knowledge and reverence to the one true Church that our Lord Jesus established through St. Peter, the rock. God bless you.
@joselara1945
@joselara1945 Жыл бұрын
Wow!!. That's what happened to me also. As an ignorant catholic I became Mormon, and thanks to that I started reading the Bible and the Apostólic Fathers to find out that the Catholic Church is the Church Jesus established.
@Mikha335
@Mikha335 11 ай бұрын
Biblically speaking, there is no such thing as a “true church. Only true disciples.
@joselara1945
@joselara1945 11 ай бұрын
@Mikael335 No. I don't think so. There is a biblical True Church. The one God established in Pentecost.. Is the ONLY Godly Church established by God in the history of the world
@paulcapaccio9905
@paulcapaccio9905 10 ай бұрын
Wonderful
@ritamiria7942
@ritamiria7942 9 ай бұрын
This is truly a remarkable story... I loved it
@empackmanmueller1725
@empackmanmueller1725 2 жыл бұрын
Another greatshow!!
@aargonza3452
@aargonza3452 4 ай бұрын
Thank you very much! I pray to God to bless and take care of you always.
@danp.torreja2777
@danp.torreja2777 2 жыл бұрын
Matthew 16-18-19 And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.”
@juans6639
@juans6639 2 жыл бұрын
I have mentioned this; Mt.16:18-19 to MANY Protestants that our Lord Jesus Christ DID NOT SAY THIS to ANY Protestant Church (Because they all claim their Church is from God) ONLY to the ONE and ONLY CATHOLIC CHURCH!
@danp.torreja2777
@danp.torreja2777 2 жыл бұрын
@@juans6639 Amen to that Bro. They don't know that Jerusalem on Jesus time is a part of Roman empire. And the church that is erected on Jesus' place of birth in Jerusalem is Nativity church, a Catholic (universal) church.
@bethanyrose2023
@bethanyrose2023 Жыл бұрын
Amen brother. Mathew 16:18-19. I have quoted this when I was laughed at when i said the Catholic Church is Jesus' church.
@danp.torreja2777
@danp.torreja2777 2 жыл бұрын
James 5:16 Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective.
@jacobhamilton4888
@jacobhamilton4888 3 ай бұрын
Incredible discussion. Thank you!
@Gio-ce8ob
@Gio-ce8ob Ай бұрын
I love content on the early Church Fathers! Thanks Keith!
@danp.torreja2777
@danp.torreja2777 2 жыл бұрын
1 Corinthians 1:18 For the message of the cross is FOOLISHNESS to those who are perishing but to us who are being SAVED it is the Power of God.( The message of the cross is CRUCIFIXION, RESURRECTION and REDEEMPTION.)
@elizado2742
@elizado2742 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this awesome talk 😘❤
@karlaquintanilla4091
@karlaquintanilla4091 5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much, I have recently found this chanel and I don´t deny to say that it is super awesome to watch all your episodes, God bless you, greeting from EL Salvador.
@missionarymoments
@missionarymoments 4 ай бұрын
Topnotch guest and conversation!
@keristo3876
@keristo3876 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice podcast episode Mr Keith ❤️❤️❤️
@sajinisunil8495
@sajinisunil8495 2 жыл бұрын
Be same church as Early church! Amen.
@fantasia55
@fantasia55 11 ай бұрын
Each non-denominational church is its own denomination.
@Lola-kv6fx
@Lola-kv6fx 2 жыл бұрын
Great episode! May God Bless the world 🌎
@lidiabarahona2154
@lidiabarahona2154 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Keith God bless you and your family
@epifaniaharriman485
@epifaniaharriman485 2 жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work God bless you all
@sdboyd
@sdboyd Жыл бұрын
Good stuff.
@Patrick0049
@Patrick0049 5 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@KeithNester
@KeithNester 5 ай бұрын
Thank you Patrick!
@kasiaseubert
@kasiaseubert 2 жыл бұрын
This was a great video Keith!
@danp.torreja2777
@danp.torreja2777 2 жыл бұрын
James 2:17 In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.
@thomassharp2719
@thomassharp2719 7 ай бұрын
Do a video on Episcopalian Nuns vs Catholic Nun.
@davidfabien7220
@davidfabien7220 2 ай бұрын
St Paul said let your "yes" be "yes" and let your "no" be "no" The apostles said to Jesus that they had seen a man casting out demons in his name and had tried to prevent him because he was not on their team, but Jesus told them not to do such a thing because "whoever is not against us is for us."
@johnbrion4565
@johnbrion4565 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for all these videos Keith. You’ve helped me and some of my friends and family grow in faith and understanding.
@cindytappe6486
@cindytappe6486 2 жыл бұрын
The roots of.the tree look nothing like the rest of the tree and perform different functions.
@danp.torreja2777
@danp.torreja2777 2 жыл бұрын
2 Thessalonians 2:15 So then, brothers and sisters, stand firm and hold fast to the teachings we passed on to you, whether by WORD OF MOUTH OR BY LETTER.
@johnyang1420
@johnyang1420 Жыл бұрын
Amen!!!!
@joecastillo8798
@joecastillo8798 7 ай бұрын
@danp.torreja2777 Torreja, The actual Greek word used in 2Thessalonians 2:15, in the Greek manuscript, is: ▪︎ΠΑΡΑΔΌΣΕΙΣ (Pronunced "Paradoseis") Which means: "TRADITIONS". NOWHERE does it mention ΔΙΔΑΣΚΑΛΊΕΣ, (Pronounced "DIDESKALIA") in Greek. Word that means "TEACHINGS". God bless.
@danp.torreja2777
@danp.torreja2777 7 ай бұрын
@@joecastillo8798 4th Commandment say: Honor your father and your mother. I WAS BORN CATHOLIC AND I WILL DIE CATHOLIC. In the other BIBLE translations of 2 Thessalonians 2:15 Traditions/Teaching is the same. The main point is" Traditions/teachings by MOUTH OR LETTER. SO THERE ARE APOSTOLIC TRADITIONS TAUGHT BY THE APOSTLES HANDED DOWN TO THE TRUE CHURCH FOUNDED BY JESUS CHRIST.
@joecastillo8798
@joecastillo8798 7 ай бұрын
@@danp.torreja2777 Mr. Torreja, I specifically wrote the words in question, in Greek; adding translations as well. Traditions and teachings mean different things. Just to illustrate. English: 2 THESSALONIANS 2:15. 15. Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle. 2 THESSALONIANS 2:15. (Greek) 15. αρα ουν αδελφοι στηκετε και κρατειτε τας ΠΑΡΑΔΟΣΕΙΣ ας εδιδαχθητε ειτε δια λογου ειτε δι επιστολης ημων The actual Greek word used in 2Thessalonians 2:15, in the Greek manuscript, is totally different, because it means those specific doctrines that are handed down orally: ▪︎ΠΑΡΑΔΌΣΕΙΣ (Pronunced "Paradoseis") Which means: "TRADITIONS". NOWHERE does it mention ΔΙΔΑΣΚΑΛΊΕΣ, (Pronounced "DIDESKALIA") in Greek. Word that means "TEACHINGS". Why the difference? Because Traditions were generally handed down orally, therefore acquiring a special distinction by being received as divine inheritance, not as typical teachings adapted for the moment in a community. God bless.
@danp.torreja2777
@danp.torreja2777 7 ай бұрын
@@joecastillo8798 Do you believe that the Apostles handed APOSTOLIC TRADITIONS to the Catholic church?
@HarleyGirl75
@HarleyGirl75 9 ай бұрын
Really great interview!! Going to buy that book!
@CHSCRTE
@CHSCRTE 2 жыл бұрын
The "other" witnesses who speak about Jesus were known to Jesus and his apostles when they walked around the villages n towns. The apostles brought to Jesus' attention about them. Jesus said about the distant followers, that if they speak about him, they are for him. How would Jesus deal with them? It make sense that Jesus want them to be united within the apostolic church communities. So we pray that they open their hearts to join the main body of Christ because WE are the apostolic CHURCH.
@danp.torreja2777
@danp.torreja2777 2 жыл бұрын
The Faith alone and Bible alone doctrines of Protestantism are all Half Truth.
@davido3026
@davido3026 4 ай бұрын
Complete lies!
@danp.torreja2777
@danp.torreja2777 4 ай бұрын
@@davido3026 2 Thessalonians 2:15 So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the TRADITIONS that you were taught by us, either by our SPOKEN WORD or by our LETTER.
@danp.torreja2777
@danp.torreja2777 4 ай бұрын
@@davido3026 James 2:24 Ye see then how that by WORKS a man is JUSTIFIED, and NOT by FAITH ONLY.
@maryvictor1739
@maryvictor1739 2 жыл бұрын
THANK U KEITH FOR DEFENDING OUR CATHOLIC FAITH. FRANKLY, I PRAY FOR YOUR MISSION DAILY. AND I SHARED YOUR POWERFUL ❤️ CONVERSION STORY WITH NEARLY 150 CATHOLICS & SOME PROTESTANTS 2 Years AGO; AND I ENJOYED DEEPLY! By Saba K. Windsor ON Canada.
@KeithNester
@KeithNester 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mary!
@bazzy8376
@bazzy8376 3 ай бұрын
Please, please, please put this book on audiobook
@rc3088
@rc3088 2 жыл бұрын
The oldest longest Kingdom on earth is Christs Church. Our language was Latin with secondary languages Greek and Aramaic or Hebrew. Just my own thoughts. 🥰
@markv1974
@markv1974 2 жыл бұрын
Our maronite and chaldean brothers and sisters still speak in aramaic
@patcandelora8496
@patcandelora8496 Жыл бұрын
But wasn’t Mass in the west celebrated in Greek up until around the 5th or 6th century?
@joecastillo8798
@joecastillo8798 Жыл бұрын
​@@patcandelora8496 Pat, Greek was used during the time when the Roman Empire used it to communicate within its vast Empire. After it's liberation through Emperor Constantine, the language of the vast Roman Empire, Latin, became widely used .
@dave_ecclectic
@dave_ecclectic Жыл бұрын
Imagine if all the other heretics in the past hadn't been stopped what the world would be like today. If they had been called 'reformers' instead of heretics. I still don't understand why we call heretics- reformers; they were all baptized
@marissabuyao2092
@marissabuyao2092 9 ай бұрын
Awesome discussion. Strengthening my faith ❤
@larrymcclain8874
@larrymcclain8874 22 күн бұрын
The Orthodox Church would like a rebuttal. Actually, both began in 1054 AD when each group's head representative excommunicated each other.
@m.chavez4431
@m.chavez4431 2 жыл бұрын
Look at history,, the founder of the Catholic church is Jesus Christ. The became the church before the Bible was written. Jesus appointed the apostles to preach, forgive sin, and to perform baptisms. All the apostles were Catholic. Jesus appointed Peter to run his church on earth and what ever laws he placed on earth were placed in heaven. Jesus and Mary were the new Eve and Adam. Jesus had to perish for the sins of Adam and Eve. Empires had been destroyed and the church has survived it all over 2000 years. The first protestant church was not even thought of until a Catholic priest had fallen in love with a nun and both were excommunicated from the church. Even Martin Luther himself, still believed in the one true church when he died. All the church fathers and early Christians were followed the Catholic way.
@bobtosi9346
@bobtosi9346 2 жыл бұрын
@alanhight St Ignacious used the term Catholic in about 100 ad.
@Siig321
@Siig321 2 жыл бұрын
@@nightshade99 hahaha good argument :) very strong argument :D
@Siig321
@Siig321 2 жыл бұрын
@@nightshade99 I am sarcastic…
@AJ_Jingco
@AJ_Jingco 2 жыл бұрын
@@nightshade99 Because ANTI Catholics ADDED Roman to the Catholic Church.
@joecastillo8798
@joecastillo8798 2 жыл бұрын
@@nightshade99 Alan, Wrong again! The term Catholic originated in late first century. Bishop Ignatius of Antioch showed its use in 107AD while being taken to Rome by orders of Emperor Trajan to be killed in the Roman Circus by lions. Here is a part of his letter to the Church at Smyrna: LETTER TO THE SMYRNEANS (107AD) Ch. 8 excerpt: "Wherever the bishop shall appear, there let the multitude [of the people] also be; even as, wherever JESUS CHRIST is, there is THE CATHOLIC CHURCH". May God bless your discernment.
@bethanyrose2023
@bethanyrose2023 Жыл бұрын
I watched from another video that the early Christians grew massively aftr it became legalised and so structure and heirarchy were needed and that is how the Catholic church became so organised until today yet we are still in unison, our gospel readings, songs, sacraments and the eucharist are the same regardless where you are in the world.
@RumorHazi
@RumorHazi 9 ай бұрын
Once again, Keith gives a great interview in that he listens intently and injects points only when needed. I really enjoy his work and his polite, insightful method. Joe is off the chart smart and Catholic Answers found a gem in him!
@abrahamrocha4763
@abrahamrocha4763 10 ай бұрын
Constantine did not create Catholicism. Catholicism created Constantine. Remember the sign in heaven?
@danp.torreja2777
@danp.torreja2777 2 жыл бұрын
John 3:14 As Moses lifted up the bronze serpent in the wilderness so as the Son of Man must be lifted up. Question: Is this Lifted up Jesus on the cross a False Image?
@kiwi-xl1vl
@kiwi-xl1vl Жыл бұрын
Cross without corpus is incomplete
@danp.torreja2777
@danp.torreja2777 Жыл бұрын
@@kiwi-xl1vl Precisely. 1 Corinthians 1:23 says, but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles,
@Littlemermaid17
@Littlemermaid17 2 жыл бұрын
The book is a brilliant read. So helpful
@st.michaelwhoislikegodquie9521
@st.michaelwhoislikegodquie9521 6 ай бұрын
May God Bless you Keith with the Good Work
@wms72
@wms72 2 жыл бұрын
This guest made very good points.
@danp.torreja2777
@danp.torreja2777 2 жыл бұрын
Acts 16:15 She and her HOUSEHOLD were BAPTIZED, and she asked us to be her guests. “If you agree that I am a true believer in the Lord,” she said, “come and stay at my home.” And she urged us until we agreed. ( If we say household it would include children/infant)
@viviennedunbar3374
@viviennedunbar3374 Жыл бұрын
Especially in a era with no contraception like our current era.
@danp.torreja2777
@danp.torreja2777 Жыл бұрын
@@kevinkane9446 Acts 16:15 Use your logic. Are the whole Household are all old people? No children? Grandchildren?
@danp.torreja2777
@danp.torreja2777 Жыл бұрын
@@kevinkane9446 Would you baptize your child until the age of reason? Is the child don't have soul like you? How about if your child die at an early age? You should not baptize? We live with faith and reason.
@danp.torreja2777
@danp.torreja2777 Жыл бұрын
@@kevinkane9446 Is the Child don't have a soul? What's needed for salvation? Is it not Baptism of water? Is the Fall of Adam & Eve humanity didn't get that original sin?
@danp.torreja2777
@danp.torreja2777 Жыл бұрын
@@kevinkane9446 Romans 5:12 Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned. ( Is this not the original sin?)
@Vtorch
@Vtorch 2 жыл бұрын
If Joe wore a robe, instead of a button down shirt, he would truly look like someone from the early church lol.
@agneskiganda7113
@agneskiganda7113 2 жыл бұрын
😀 you're right
@rebeccalauron103
@rebeccalauron103 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for such an. Elucidating talk It made me love my Catholic Faith . God bless us 🙏
@Wenuraa
@Wenuraa 2 жыл бұрын
great
@tommytanumihardja9415
@tommytanumihardja9415 2 жыл бұрын
Being a Catholic is being a part of One Body, The Body of Christ. As a body, St. Paul taught the concept inline with modern biology...A body has different parts, but still one body, starts with a single cell (conception between sperm and egg), and develop to billions of cells, developing into different organ systems and body parts, but still one body
@marianweigh6411
@marianweigh6411 2 жыл бұрын
Check out Henri De Lubac's _The Church: Paradox and Mystery,_ you might like it!
@tommytanumihardja9415
@tommytanumihardja9415 Жыл бұрын
@@marianweigh6411 thanx sister
@elispena1719
@elispena1719 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you guys for all the clarity, i wish i could send this videos to all my family , who had leave the catholic faith. thank you. Many blessing for you and yours.
@loveisaih2020
@loveisaih2020 2 жыл бұрын
Elis Pana - When Protestants become Catholic - they knew the Bible inside out, they READ their way into Church History/Father. When a Catholic becomes a Protestant - I never read the Bible as a Catholic, we used to Worship Mother Mary n Saints, I wasn't Born Again and now I am Saved. etc, etc. Irony or ironies. Pax Christi
@kathleenirish
@kathleenirish Жыл бұрын
@@loveisaih2020 never worshipped Mary or Saints.
@loveisaih2020
@loveisaih2020 Жыл бұрын
@@kathleenirish im glad you didn't. An informed Catholic never worships theBlessed Mother we give her the high possible Veneration ( Hyper Dulia) to Angels n Saints(Dulia) and to God Alone( Latria). Pax Christi
@peterzinya1
@peterzinya1 5 ай бұрын
@@loveisaih2020 we catholics worship mary. we just tell the prots we dont just to shut them up.
@loveisaih2020
@loveisaih2020 5 ай бұрын
-​@@peterzinya1- that's not true. Only an ignorant catholic would say that. That's blasphemy. St. Thomas Aquinas, Doctor of the Catholic Church, writing in his Summa Theologiae (II-II, q. 103, a. 4; III, q. 25, a. 5), explains the difference in Honor due to God Alone (Latria) Dulia (to Angels and Saints) and Hyper Dulia to (Blessed Virgin Mary) Where in her official teaching does it teach that? Early in church history a group known as the Collyridians offered worship to the Blessed Virgin and the CHURCH rightfully condemn them.
@C-ip2sq
@C-ip2sq 3 ай бұрын
I would be interested in seeing a video series that analyzes and critiques the theological claims of the Christadelphians. There seems to be a lack of critical examination of their beliefs online.
@triconcert
@triconcert 29 күн бұрын
I would speculate that Heaven itself is Catholic according to the authority Christ vested in Peter and the fact that throughout history Peter's authority and that of the Magisterium pertained. That the Reformation occurred some 500 years in the recent past could not alter that authority and structure. I would further speculate that Purgatory is actually made mostly for those who don't currently believe in it when they eventually transition so they can repent of their unwitting disobedience to Christ's command.
@jellojenna6
@jellojenna6 2 жыл бұрын
I love how you already have so many anti-Catholic comments on this video, it's hilarious! XD The willful ignorance of people is truly astounding.
@rosiegirl2485
@rosiegirl2485 2 жыл бұрын
They have no problem reading comments..but wont read Joe's book! I guess they are afraid of the truth!
@rosiegirl2485
@rosiegirl2485 2 жыл бұрын
@@nightshade99 They have been removed.
@joecastillo8798
@joecastillo8798 2 жыл бұрын
@@nightshade99 It's not convenient if it is disrespectful. I just responded to a protestant who had an opinion, expressed respectfully.
@kathleenirish
@kathleenirish Жыл бұрын
@@nightshade99 you haven’t read comments on Catholic pages from Haters , have you
@ddzl6209
@ddzl6209 2 жыл бұрын
my simple understanding of Catholicism is that Jesus is the Jewish Messiah he said that he didn't come to change the law Judaism but to fulfill it obviously he didn't start a new religion either but natural continuation of Judaism under the new covenant of his salvation for entire mankind. His first followers were all Jews and they started this new covenant in their respective synagogues of Jerusalem, Damascus, Antioch, Rome, Corinth, Smyrna, Hippo, Carthage etc. with the basic traditions like Tabernacle, Alter, Menohra, Priesthood etc. intact which can still be found only in Catholic Church. This simple historical facts simply suggest that the church Jesus established under the stewardship of Peter is the Catholic Church, simply there cannot be another.
@KeithNester
@KeithNester 2 жыл бұрын
makes sense to me
@kiwi-xl1vl
@kiwi-xl1vl 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful divine plan of God to bring salvation to mankind through Jews. We ought to pray and thank them...
@joecastillo8798
@joecastillo8798 2 жыл бұрын
@Darong Dazel Darong, Excellent point! Comparing the Old and New Covenant, Roy Schoeman, a Jewish convert says: "The only way to understand the relationship between the two covenants is to see that Judaism is nothing other than Pre-Messianic Catholicism, and that the Catholic Church is nothing other than Post-Messianic Judaism. We know that statement is true because in God there is continuity. The two are one and the same. God does not divorce nor change His Divine Mind about human beings. Men do. Just like Luther who mistrusted God and created the monster of protestantism with its thousands of divisions, in opposition of God's one Church, "the pillar and foundation of the truth", by inventing a new paradigm called "Bible alone", absent in the New Testament. God bless.
@lucillebonds2196
@lucillebonds2196 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus was never a jew. He was a Judean. Word jew was made up in the 19th or 20th century by the Talmudic people who wants to deceive the world thinking that they were part of Jesus patronage and will incite our sentiments for their false pretense that they were.being made a sacrifice because they were God's people.
@joecastillo8798
@joecastillo8798 Жыл бұрын
Great point. In fact, Roy Schoeman, a Jewish convert says: "The only way to understand the relationship between the two covenants is to see Judaism as nothing other than pre-Messianic Catholicism and the Catholic Church as nothing other than post-Messianic Judaism."
@lusttravel1247
@lusttravel1247 2 ай бұрын
New to your channel and your ministry. You are killing it brother! Thank you for being honest and a Catholic.
@williammcenaney1331
@williammcenaney1331 10 ай бұрын
Rev. Mr. Alex Jones appeared on EWTN's program "The Journey Home" to say why he became a Catholic. Since he promised his Baptist congregation that he would explain how members of the early Church. While he learned about its liturgies, he added ancient practices into his services , became a Catholic, and led his parishioners into the Catholic Church. That's wonderful event may happen in other Protestant churches, too. But today's ecumenism, which I reject, does the opposite. The Remnant Newspaper's Editor Michael Matt visited an Anglican Church in Walsingham, England. Naturally, he expected the Anglican liturgy. But a woman there told him that they use the Novus Ordo rite of Mass instead because it's compatible with their, Protestant, theology. Now you know one of many reasons why I always attend the Traditional Latin Mass instead of the Novus Ordo, which an acquaintance of mine calls "the American one." Catholics attend the Novus Ordo. But it's for another religion.
@johnm.speight7983
@johnm.speight7983 6 ай бұрын
William, do you follow the language or do you follow the pope ? IF the protestants had their services in Latin, would that make them kind of Catholic ? I am a 86 year old Catholic, baptized on Aug 30th 1938, I lived thru the Latin era - I memorized Latin to be an alter boy but, I don't speak or understand Latin - - God sent me to an English speaking country. ! I Thank God he did !
@joecastillo8798
@joecastillo8798 5 ай бұрын
@williammcenaney1331 William, The Church is one, regardless of Rites, whether Novus Ordo, Latin, Oriental, Coptic, etc.
@imherwerdio6852
@imherwerdio6852 10 ай бұрын
Wow....14:28 through 14:44 was actually a great point, and argument I've never heard before. Thank you for that. I've been noticing all sorts of proofs, supports, including things in scripture in recent days that defend so many Catholic doctrines, practices, and dogmas. These have been things that have helped shore up the defenses of my "reconversion" to the Catholic Faith. So thank you for that, Joe.
@tailuafalemana913
@tailuafalemana913 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely Right the Catholic Church is the first Church...In the Bible...Acts : 23: 11.. The following night the Lord stood near Paul and said, Take courage As you have testified about me in Jerusalem, so you must also testify in Rome 🇻🇦🇻🇦..Acts:22:27.. Then the Commander went to Paul and asked, Tell me, are you a Roman citizen?. Yes l am, " he answered... etc.. Apostle Paul to his Letter to Romans: 1: 6: And you also are among those who are called to belong to Jesus Christ.7: To all in Rome who are loved by God and called to be saints... etc...🇻🇦🗝️🇻🇦🗝️🇻🇦🗝️🇻🇦🗝️🇻🇦🗝️🇻🇦🗝️🇻🇦
@Paulthored
@Paulthored 11 ай бұрын
I remember when taking my Biblical Christianity 101 Class... We got to talking about both how the various Books of the Bible & the Bible as a whole, and even how it related to the Quran. Specifically, how the early Christians would Copy, Preserve, and Pass on the Scriptures. Essentially, if someone reading this is unaware, there would be the drafting phase of the New Testament books... Then the final draft, would get Copied out some Twenty Times. And then, each copy would be checked against the orginal and all the Copies. Any errors would usually be Burned. This would happen when making new Standard copies were created. That is, new copies of the Bible's used as sources for new books. The originals would then, after making Certain that they had copied every letter properly, the original would be Destroyed. And destroyed, so that someone couldn't come along later, and say that They had the true orginal Bible books! And thusly lead followers astray. We compared it with the Quran. The history of which, basically demonstrated why what the early Christians did, was the correct call. Long story short, within a couple centuries of Muhammad.. There's one (Sultan?) who declares that his copy is the one true copy, and destroys virtually every other copy that might gainsay him. _(They didn't really spread the Quran around prior to that time, as it was supposedly a restricted book beforehand)_ ...... In relation to the video.... This looks like one could think that the Catholic Church is attempting to claim that They're the Only True Christian Church. Or something similarly like that Quran debacle.
@iggyantioch
@iggyantioch 8 ай бұрын
Do you not accept the 31.5 books of the new testament?
@Paulthored
@Paulthored 8 ай бұрын
@@iggyantioch 🤨 _Number off the top of your head there?_ Even if the Number given was a joke, I can't exactly say that I'd accept the 4.5 books that said Number Adds to the New Testament.
@iggyantioch
@iggyantioch 8 ай бұрын
Yes humor. I didn't know about that history. Thanks I'll check it out. Hopefully We're not claiming that the Holy Spirit didn't Guide the Catholics into all truth protecting them from error or sinister manipulation of said scripture s. I will say this Infallibly Get 1.5 lb Gulf shrimp peel and de vien Some hickory smoked peppered bacon. Yellow rice. Grease a broiler pan and wrap the shrimp in the bacon. Broil medium turn over equal time Cook the rice Chill the Coronas Just before you take out the shrimp hit them with your favorite bbq sauce let it caramelize Serve over the rice. And have a great weekend! Paul.
@karenbartlett1307
@karenbartlett1307 11 ай бұрын
What about the Orthodox Church?
@Spiritof76Catholic
@Spiritof76Catholic 9 ай бұрын
Excellent video. The Bible and history prove the Catholic Church is the Church Jesus established and preserved to this day 2,000 years later.
@HillbillyBlack
@HillbillyBlack 7 ай бұрын
It absolutely was the Catholic Church. It absolutely was NOT the Roman Catholic Church. Not to be upsetting to others but Thank God for that. The early Church affirmed Scripture as the single infallible source of Faith. They believed in Faith ALONE ( i can defend this) They did NOT affirm real carnal presence or transformation of the bread and wine( though to me this is less of a problem in any case given its seriousness regardless) And the early Church was NOT unanimous with Peter as the foundation of the Church. Many people do not read church history and sum up their theology to hit point links and snippet readings of Father quotes or scripture snippets well out of Context.
@Spiritof76Catholic
@Spiritof76Catholic 7 ай бұрын
@@HillbillyBlack The video backed up what was said with Biblical and historical context. Did you even watch. Without context your string of negative assertions about the Catholic Church in your comment is nothing more than a noisy gong or a clanging symbol. If all that "proof" means is bare assertion with no documentation, then anyone could prove anything. I stand by my original comment, “The Bible and history prove the Catholic Church is the Church Jesus established and preserved to this day 2,000 years later.
@HillbillyBlack
@HillbillyBlack 7 ай бұрын
@@Spiritof76Catholic Papacy Jerome- ​​⁠ “It is therefore the very same priest, who is a bishop, and before there existed men who are slanderers by instinct, [before] factions in the religion, and [before] it was said to the people, " am of Paul, I am of Apollos, but I am of Cephas," the churches were governed by a common council of the priests. But after each one began think that those whom he had baptized were his own and not Christ's, it was decreed for the whole world that one of the priests should be elected to preside over the others, to whom the entire care of the church should pertain, and the seeds of schism would be removed. If someone thinks that this is our opinion, but not that of the Scriptures-that bishop and priest are one, and that one is the title of age, the other of his duty-let him reread the apostle's words to the Philippians when he says, "Paul and Timothy, slaves of Jesus Christ, to all the saints in Christ Jesus who are in Philippi, with the bishops and deacons, grace to you and peace," and so on. Philippi is a single city in Macedonia, and at least in one city several were not able to be bishops, as they are now thought. But because at that time they called the same men bishops whom they also called priests, therefore he has spoken indifferently of bishops as if of priests. This may still seem doubtful to someone unless it is proven by another testimony. In the Acts of the Apostles it is written that when the apostle came to Miletus, he sent to Ephesus and summoned the priests of that church to whom later he said among other things, "Watch yourselves, and the whole flock in which the Holy Spirit appointed you bishops to feed the church of God, which he acquired through his own blood." And observe here very carefully how, by summoning the priests of the single city of Ephesus, later he has spoken of the same men as bishops. If anyone wants to receive that epistle which is written in Paul's name to the Hebrews, even there care for the church is shared equally by many. For indeed he writes to the people, "Obey your leaders, and be in subjection; for they are the ones who watch over your souls, as those who will give a reckoning. Let them not do this with sighing; for indeed this is advantageous to you." And Peter, who received his name from the firmness of his faith, speaks in his own epistle and says, "As a fellow priest, then, I plead with the priests among you, and as a witness of Christ's sufferings, I who am a companion also of his glory that is to be revealed in the future, tend the Lord's flock that is among you, not as though by compulsion but voluntarily." These things [have been said] in order to show that to the men of old the same men who were the priests were also the bishops; but gradually, as the seed beds of dissensions were eradicated, all solicitude was conferred on one man. Therefore, just as the priests know that by the custom of the church they are subject to the one who was previously appointed over them, so the bishops know that they, more by custom than by the truth of the Lord's arrangement, are greater than the priests. And they ought to rule the Church commonly, in imitation of Moses who, when he had under his authority to preside alone over the people of Israel, he chose the seventy by whom he could judge the people. Augustine- "Peter, called after this rock, represented the person of the Church which is built upon this rock, and has received the keys of the kingdom of heaven.' For, Thou art Peter and not Thou art the rock' was said to him. But 'the rock was Christ, in confessing whom, as also the whole Church confesses, Simon was called Peter." John Chrysostom - "Thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church'; that is, on the faith of his confession." Isidore of Seville - "The other apostles also became equal sharers with Peter in honor and authority." Cyprian - "The remaining apostles were necessarily also that which Peter was, endowed with an equal partnership both in honor and of power."
@HillbillyBlack
@HillbillyBlack 7 ай бұрын
@@Spiritof76Catholic scripture, sufficiency - Irenaeus (AD 180): We have learned from none others the plan of our salvation, than from those through whom the gospel has come down to us, which they did at one time proclaim in public, and, at a later period, by the will of God, handed down to us in the Scriptures, to be the ground and pillar of our faith. (Against Heresies, 3:1.1) - Athanasius (AD 296-373): The holy and inspired Scriptures are fully sufficient for the proclamation of the truth. (Against the Heathen, 1:3) - Augustine (AD 354-430): It is to the canonical Scriptures alone that I am bound to yield such implicit subjection as to follow their teaching, without admitting the slightest suspicion that in them any mistake or any statement intended to mislead could find a place. (Letters, 82.3) - Augustine (AD 354-430): He [God] also inspired the Scripture, which is regarded as canonical and of supreme authority and to which we give credence concerning all the truths we ought to know and yet, of ourselves, are unable to learn. (City of God, 11.3) - Cyril of Jerusalem (AD 310-386): For concerning the divine and holy mysteries of the Faith, not even a casual statement must be delivered without the Holy Scriptures; nor must we be drawn aside by mere plausibility and artifices of speech. Even to me, who tell you these things, give not absolute credence, unless you receive the proof of the things which I announce from the Divine Scriptures. For this salvation which we believe depends not on ingenious reasoning, but on demonstration of the Holy Scriptures. (Catechetical Lectures, IV:17 in The Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers) - Gregory of Nyssa (AD 330-395): We are not entitled to such license, namely, of affirming whatever we please. For we make Sacred Scripture the rule and the norm of every doctrine. Upon that we are obliged to fix our eyes, and we approve only whatever can be brought into harmony with the intent of these writings. (On the Soul and the Resurrection, quoted in Jaroslav Pelikan, The Emergence of the Catholic Tradition [Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 1971], p. 50.) - Augustine of Hippo (AD 354-430): Let them show their church if they can, not by the speeches and mumblings of the Africans, not by the councils of their bishops, not by the writings of any of their champions, not by fraudulent signs and wonders, because we have been prepared and made cautious also against these things by the Word of the Lord. (On the Unity of the Church, 16) - John Chrysostom (AD 347-407): Wherefore I exhort and entreat you all, disregard what this man and that man thinks about these things, and inquire from the Scriptures all these things; and having learned what are the true riches, let us pursue after them that we may obtain also the eternal good things. (Homily 13 on 2 Corinthians) - Basil the Great (AD 329-379): Therefore let God-inspired Scripture decide between us; and on whichever side be found doctrines in harmony with the Word of God, in favor of that side will be cast the vote of truth. (Letter 189 to Eustathius the physician)
@HillbillyBlack
@HillbillyBlack 7 ай бұрын
@@Spiritof76Catholic the Eucharist Didache 9.1 - (AD 100) Now, concerning the Eucharist, practice it as follows. " First, concerning the cup: We give thanks to you, our Father, for the holy vine of David your son, which you made known to us through Jesus your son, glory to you forever a Next, concerning the broken bread: We give thanks to you, our Father, for the life and knowledge which you made known to us through Jesus your son, glory to you forever b4 Just as this broken bread was being scattered over the mountains and being brought together it became one; likewise bring together your church from the ends of the earth into your kingdom, so that yours is the glory and the power through Jesus Christ forever cs But none shall eat or shall drink from your Eucharist but those baptized in the name of the Lord; for also concerning this the Lord has said, "Do give not what is holy to the dogs." The Didache (AD 100): “On the Lord’s day assemble and break bread and give thanks, having first confessed your sins, that your sacrifice may be pure. If any have a dispute with his fellow, let him not come to the assembly till they be reconciled, that your sacrifice be not polluted. For this is the sacrifice spoken of by the Lord; ‘In every place and at every time offer to me a pure sacrifice; for I am a great king, said the Lord, and my name is wonderful among the Gentiles; (Mal. i. 11, 14).” This doesn’t refer to Jesus’ sacrifice, but to “your sacrifice.” The same Greek word for “sacrifice” (thusia) is used of Jesus’ sacrifice (Heb. 5:1), but it is also used of doing good deeds, praise, and financial giving (Heb. 13:15-16; Phil. 4:18). The same book also refers to the supper as the “cup” and the “bread,” and a means of remembering Jesus’ sacrifice in thanksgiving (Didache, 9). Irenaeus of Lyons (AD 180) stated that the elements do not lose the nature of bread and wine (Against Heresies, 4.18.4-5; 5.2.2). Tertullian (AD 200) said Jesus’ statement was figurative (Against Marcion, 3.19). Clement of Alexandria (AD 200) called the bread and wine symbols of Jesus’ body (The Instructor, I.6). Origen (AD 250) held his typical allegorical and spiritual view when referring to the elements in the Last Supper. Eusebius of Caesarea (AD 340) called the elements the body and blood of Christ, but also referred to them as symbolic of spiritual realities (On the Theology of the Church, 3.2.12). Augustine (AD 350) believed that John 6:53 should be understood spiritually and symbolically-not literalistically (On Christian Doctrine 3.16.2). Gelasius I (5th century pope): “The sacrament which we receive of the body and blood of Christ is a divine thing. Wherefore also by means of it we are made partakers of the divine nature. Yet the substance or nature of the bread and wine does not cease to be… Thus, as the elements pass into this, that is, the divine substance by the Holy Ghost, and none the less remain in their own proper nature.”
@JayRedding12_12
@JayRedding12_12 Жыл бұрын
What was the name of his podcast? Shameless Potpourri? I'd like to check that out. I love how Keith said How can studying the Church Fathers help us grow in holiness, because that just about all I do is study Christianity and sometimes it even cuts into my prayer time. Analysis Paralysis.
@johnyang1420
@johnyang1420 Жыл бұрын
Shameless Popery
@peterzinya1
@peterzinya1 5 ай бұрын
you cant study your way into heaven.
@lenormand4967
@lenormand4967 4 ай бұрын
​@@peterzinya1 So wrong. Joe hears the authority established by Christ. He has studied to show himself approved. What does approved mean? GHow many souls do you guess he has won by hearing and studying the truth, then sharing it?
@peterzinya1
@peterzinya1 4 ай бұрын
@@lenormand4967 The devil know more about the bible than anyone, and he lived in heaven and knows god. Is he saved? The unsaved religious folks dont know the difference so they think knowledge will save them. What if you die befor getting that last bit of information?
@donaldcooley897
@donaldcooley897 2 ай бұрын
@@peterzinya1 If Join studied to show him self approved then he would that there is no salvation in the apostate catholic church , there is no salvation in the sacraments or in any teachings of the CC. and catholics have fabricated a lie about salvation is found only in the CC and any one on the outside is lost so if Joe is telling them about the apostate catholic church he is tell them deceptive unbiblical lies . ,
@user-eq3ll7vb3u
@user-eq3ll7vb3u Ай бұрын
The early church is that the one that started hearing confessions instead of confessing to God
@docJamesE1318
@docJamesE1318 2 ай бұрын
Yes not too many comments are allowed this Chanel deletes comments!
@VO_JayRedding
@VO_JayRedding Жыл бұрын
You said they laugh when you explain Catholics were the first Christians. I tried explaining how Sola Scriptoria is unbiblical to a prot friend. I sent him several videos containing facts and he said "I think he's full of sh*t" It's like they just don't want to hear the Truth. I've been there, it's like I had blinders on.
@debralittle1341
@debralittle1341 Жыл бұрын
The earl Church was the New Testament Church and was not the same as Catholic or Protestant. And no way was Peter a pope.
@johnyang1420
@johnyang1420 Жыл бұрын
Read books Pope Peter and The Early Church Was Catholic by Heschmeyer…..he proves the papacy and more
@Catholiclady3
@Catholiclady3 6 ай бұрын
Are you calling Jesus a liar? He absolutely made Peter the leader, aka the Pope. It's right there. Try to reason it out, but you're just calling Jesus a liar here.
@IamAnIdiot35
@IamAnIdiot35 10 күн бұрын
The early church absolutely did not have the doctrine of Papal Infallibility when the pope speaks Ex Cathedra. St Gregory of Nyssa was a Universalist (later condemned as heresy), St Cyril was a Monophysite (later condemned as heresy), and basically everyone around 100 AD was a subordinationist (later condemned as heresy. The early chuch was autocephalous according to most scholars: the roman pontiff was highly respected, but he didn't have the supreme authority that was a later development. So no, the early church absolutely was not the same as the modern catholic church. Anyone claiming this is either ignorant or spreading misinformation.
@tonyazizi7709
@tonyazizi7709 Жыл бұрын
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@Sheilamarie2
@Sheilamarie2 Жыл бұрын
We have the Apostles Creed (70 AD) to clarify Christ's church (Catholics) from the heretics. Then the Nicene Creed to expand our beliefs for the same reasons. The language "Catholic and Apostolic Church" is in the Creeds. Done with arguement.
@danp.torreja2777
@danp.torreja2777 2 жыл бұрын
Revelation 7:9 After this I looked, and there before me was a GREAT MULTITUDE that no one could count, from EVERY NATION, TRIBE, PEOPLE and LANGUAGE, standing before the throne and before the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding PALM BRANCHES in their hands.( The Sacred tradition of Catholic church holding PALM BRANCHES in their hands during Palm Sunday.)
@donaldcooley897
@donaldcooley897 2 ай бұрын
@danp.torreja2777 , Like a most catholics ignorant of Gods word . Rev. 7 : 9 the The Great multitude talked about in Rev. 7 : 9 have nothing to do with the Church age or the catholic church it is the 70th week of Daniel , which is the 7 years of tribulation . The Great multitude are those that have come out of the Grate tribulation . Stop commenting about something you know nothing about .and stop adding garbage to the word of God .
@danp.torreja2777
@danp.torreja2777 2 ай бұрын
Don't be ignorant to the TRUE CHURCH FOUNDED BY JESUS CHRIST. This is the CHURCH PROCLAIMED IN THE WHOLE WORLD JUST LIKE THE COMMAND OF JESUS TO PREACH THE GOSPEL TO ALL NATIONS AND BAPTIZED THEM IN THE NAME OF FATHER, SON AND HOLY SPIRIT and today there are 1.378 Billion members in all nations and counting. Read: Romans 1:8 First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for all of you, because your FAITH is PROCLAIMED IN ALL THE WORLD.
@danp.torreja2777
@danp.torreja2777 2 ай бұрын
@donaldcooley897 Don't be ignorant to the religions founded by men. Martin Luther the FATHER of PROTESTANTISM was a former Catholic priest who rebelled the church and established doctrines of SOLA SCRIPTURA AND SOLA FIDE are ALL HALF TRUTH. Read 2 Thessalonians 2:15 So then, brothers, STAND FIRM and HOLD to the TRADITIONS that you were TAUGHT by US, either by our SPOKEN WORD or by our LETTER. James 2:24 says A man is justified by WORKS and NOT BY FAITH ALONE.
@donaldcooley897
@donaldcooley897 2 ай бұрын
@@danp.torreja2777 I am a saved believer , I was saved 75 years ago at 16 . and in my 20s I become an Evangelist , after school I was ordain and preached and taught on Radio and in Churches in the south . that has been 60 years ago I am 91, and the word of God and it`s meaning has never changed . I am not interested in what Luther says or what he did to the catholic cult . fact ! 80% of the catholic dogmas and doctrines and the Catechism are not Biblical . and with its fabricated deceptive lies about salvation is in the catholic church and it sacraments and out side of the Church there is no salvation . Salvation is by faith believing on Christ and his Gospel .
@danp.torreja2777
@danp.torreja2777 2 ай бұрын
@@donaldcooley897 1 John 2:19 They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us. (PROTESTANTISM IS NOT EVEN REFORMATION BUT REBELLION)
@hglundahl
@hglundahl Ай бұрын
8:22 An enormous religion, international, but at the same time also the national religion of nations. Ideally all of them. This also means peoples of all walks, including military and judges wielding death penalty, as well as kings.
@normmcinnis4102
@normmcinnis4102 2 ай бұрын
Acts 11:26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.
@iggyantioch
@iggyantioch 2 ай бұрын
Yes. And St. Ignatius of Antioch was the Bishop there. He was the first to use the word Catholic to describe the Church. Around 150 ad.
@lucillebonds2196
@lucillebonds2196 2 жыл бұрын
The Early Church is the Roman Catholic Church. The earthly church is still present on us it never went away. Jesus is the same yesterday, today, and forever. And that the Church follows His founder.
@mapaz555
@mapaz555 2 жыл бұрын
How I know they are Catholic is because they are all my family. All the way back then. Those are our saints, our martyrs, our people, our popes, our heroes, our wise men and women, our traditions, our history. Our family is eternal. They exist now, today. We all belong to the same body of Christ. We All Love Our Mother Mary, present tense. We ask them to intercede for us. For our church. We not only have personal relationships with God the Father, with Jesus Christ Our Lord, with The Holy Spirit, with Our Blessed Queen of the Heavens Mary, mother of God. We have personal relationships with all our saints and special people of the faith. It’s like Pope John Paul II, he’s no longer on earth physically with us but he’s just as present, maybe even more, in our hearts. We all share the same heart, with every Pope, every father, every sister, we all talk to each other. We are the Catholic Church, All for one and one for all, always.
@marianweigh6411
@marianweigh6411 2 жыл бұрын
Yes 🙏 If Protestants would open themselves to _this_ reality, they would understand why Catholics _love_ being Catholic! St John Paul II, pray for us
@markv1974
@markv1974 2 жыл бұрын
We are the communion of saints. The branches grafted to the vine of Christ. The church ascendant and the church militant. One above praying for us, one below fighting still the good fight.
@TommyGunzzz
@TommyGunzzz 7 ай бұрын
Just by reading the title, I am already thinking of the two recent encyclicals from the Vatican (Chieti and Alexandria) that say the church for the first thousand years was synodal and not papal (not even getting into how that contradicts Vatican 1), but whats the argument after the Vatican itself clarifies the Papacy position is not true for the early church and Synodality was? Alexandria document is really explicit here, not ambiguous.
@silveriorebelo2920
@silveriorebelo2920 4 ай бұрын
why do you invent things? - that is called lying - the authority of the bishop of Rome is already clear in the second century, in some few revealing texts that remain - you can read Ireneaus of Lyon, writting around 170-180: see the work Against the Heresies, Book III, 3: he explains that all churches must follow the teachings of the Church of Rome
@TommyGunzzz
@TommyGunzzz 4 ай бұрын
@@silveriorebelo2920 so you are going to fully ignore what I wrote lol. not sure you read my comment, your own church says it was only the case lol. Have you read Chieti and Alexandria encyclicals? They very plainly teach there was no universal supremacy for the first thousand years. Also Constantinople 2 says Constantinople is the new Rome. Nicea 1 says that Rome is not to go beyond it's regions boundaries and has no authority outside of them, just like the other patriarchs and lays out the same. Not one mention of the supremacy in any council. This can go on and on, but I'm assuming you'll not address anything since you rely on quote mining and not your own churches teaching.
@workinpromo
@workinpromo 4 ай бұрын
This is a quote from the most recent agreement : *Similarly, it is clear that for Roman Catholics synodality is not merely consultative, and for Orthodox primacy is not merely honorific.” Stop trying to misrepresent these documents for your own self pride. We need charity.
@Darth_Vader258
@Darth_Vader258 2 жыл бұрын
The Catholic Church is the Church of the Apostles.
@KeithNester
@KeithNester 2 жыл бұрын
Amen!
@rochelleperry2242
@rochelleperry2242 Жыл бұрын
Keep letting Satan trick and lie to you 🤷
@rochelleperry2242
@rochelleperry2242 Жыл бұрын
@@KeithNester notice you all are THE ONLY ONES WHO HAVE TO CONTINUE saying this to yourselves We all KNOW YOU ARE NOT........a man doesn't have to go around claiming HE IS A MAN. 😳
@johnyang1420
@johnyang1420 Жыл бұрын
@@rochelleperry2242Go and read the book The Early Church Was Catholic
@johnyang1420
@johnyang1420 Жыл бұрын
@@rochelleperry2242Are you calling Jesus Satan? Mmmmk
@roylereg22
@roylereg22 Жыл бұрын
It is so hard for the astray protestants to accept that what they have now is just a poor imitation of the original and only TRUE Church of Christ with an unbroken line of 266 popes until this day. Naturally they will refuse to accept this and will villify this Catholic claim at every opportunity.
@peterzinya1
@peterzinya1 5 ай бұрын
unbroken line of popes. one pope was killed by a husbands of a wife the pope was caught in bed with. the papacy was bought and sold, a couple of popes were run out of town for being extra wicked above the standard wickedness. there were 3 popes at one time. and the chair of peter was vacant for 2 yrs because nobody cared. lets not forget the reign of the harlots. far from unbroken line, but catholics like repeating it. keeps them from waking up in the night screaming.
@batmanmatrix741
@batmanmatrix741 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Keith,many months ago I asked and was searching for can the diabolical use the holy cross to deceive in apportions. A: He cannot show the Master Christ Himself, nor Holy Communion, but he lies and presents the image of some man and simple bread; but the holy Cross he cannot show, for he does not find means of depicting it in another form. Inasmuch as we know the true sign and image of the Cross, the devil does not dare to use it (for our deception); for on the Cross his power was destroyed, and by the Cross a fatal wound was given him. The Master Christ we cannot recognize by the flesh, which is why the devil tries to convince us by lying that it is He, so that having believed the deception as if it were truth, we might perish. And thus, when you see in a dream the image of the Cross, know that this dream is true and from God; but strive to receive an interpretation of its significance from the Saints, and do not believe your own idea. May the lord enlighten the thoughts of your mind, O brother, so that you might escape every deception of the enemy. "Saints Barsanuphius and John: Guidance Toward Spiritual Life," trans. by Fr. Seraphim Rose, (Platina, California: St. Herman of Alaska Brotherhood, 1990)
@brendacarabba2752
@brendacarabba2752 2 ай бұрын
I am a Eastern Melkite Catholic
@tailuafalemana913
@tailuafalemana913 2 жыл бұрын
Martin Luther the Catholic Priest he stepped out from the Church against, rejected all Sacrament of the Church and he started his own denomination his useless all those new denomination was started from 1500 till 2022 was Established by Men and Wemen..
@johnyang1420
@johnyang1420 Жыл бұрын
Yes and amen!!!
@azulnadamdamin7515
@azulnadamdamin7515 Жыл бұрын
RCC who killed all apostle...
@tryingnottobeasmartass757
@tryingnottobeasmartass757 Жыл бұрын
No, they didn't. How is it that so many Evangelicals and Fundamentalists are so stupid as to believe this pseudo-historical nonsense? Why don't you vet your sources? Sheesh!
@danp.torreja2777
@danp.torreja2777 2 жыл бұрын
1 Corinthians 1:23 but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles,
@rejipaul2185
@rejipaul2185 Ай бұрын
Does it makes it better ? what theology or doctrine is required for anyone to believe in Lord Yeshua and to obey Lord Yeshua ? Do you need to be Jewish, Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant, Evangelical, Pentecostal for keeping the commandments of God and to believe and obey Lord Yeshua? >>> Do you require Pope, Patriarch,Bishops,priests, pastors for keeping the commandments of God and for believing and obeying the Gospel of Lord Yeshua Messiah and for observing all that Lord Yeshua commanded us to observe? Is it not all the whole duty of man?
@dannyboy6598
@dannyboy6598 2 жыл бұрын
If the rom cath church is not divinely ordained, there is no need to obey any of its teachings. On the contrary most catholic teachings like the immaculate conception n assumption of mary cannot even be proven yet they are days of obligation. Viewers. The hundreds of teachings n doctrines of the catholic church were not taught by jesus n the apostles so they are irrelevant. I believe all of them
@juans6639
@juans6639 2 жыл бұрын
The majority of Protestants have NO COMMON SENSE and the existence of over 66,000 Reformed, Protestant, Religions and Churches PROVE IT beyond a shadow of a doubt, WHILE claiming that THEIR MAN MADE RELIGIONS ARE FROM GOD. Common sense should tell you that Our Lord Jesus Christ COULD NOT HAVE BEEN BORN FROM A SINFUL WOMAN! ALL of us are born with Original Sin; Ps.51:5-7, Rom.5:12-19, 1Cor.15:21-22 AND NOTHING DEFILED, Rev.21:27 CAN ENTER INTO THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN....Therefore Our Most Blessed Virgin Mary WAS PRESERVED FROM ORIGINAL SIN BY ALMIGHTY GOD! The greeting from Almighty God himself sent through the Archangel Gabriel, Lk.1:28, "Hail (Mary) Full of Grace, THE LORD IS WITH THEE, "FULL OF GRACE MEANS; WITHOUT SIN," flowed in Lk.1:42 BLESSED ARE YOU AMONG WOMEN AND BLESSED IS THE FRUIT OF THY WOMB (JESUS) Lk.1:43,....THAT THE MOTHER of my Lord....AND NOW, WHAT ALL PROTESTANTS DENY, (JUST LIKE SATAN) Lk.1:48, FROM NOW ON, ALL GENERATIONS TO COME SHALL CALL ME BLESSED...
@robertstone9342
@robertstone9342 2 ай бұрын
*EDIT* i have to go back through my youtube comments and correct myself. My apologies that I did not get to this one already. While researching into this very thing looking for more talking points, i found out that i was mislead, and that instead of doing due diligence before i opened my mouth, as i would normally do, i did not on this one. i ended up bearing false witness against the roman catholic church here and i apologize. For anyone else who might fall for exactly what I did. It is true the Roman Catholic church changed the 10 commandments. But, they did not remove the essence of them. So, in the protestant book where our 2nd commandment says not to make graven images. In the roman catholic bible it was combined into the first commandment. The early church was catholic. But not roman catholic. The early church still used the original 10 commandments because God forbid any man to edit his word. 300 years later, roman catholicism was born when they figured out a way to combine roman paganism with christianity. Again read the original 10 commandments and then read this, “Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you.” (Deut. 4:2.)
@georgepierson4920
@georgepierson4920 2 ай бұрын
Lying is a still a sin.
@robertstone9342
@robertstone9342 2 ай бұрын
@@georgepierson4920 Where is the lie?
@georgepierson4920
@georgepierson4920 2 ай бұрын
@@robertstone9342 Really? OK. The early church was catholic. *That's right. Bishop Ignatius of Antioch (80 - 110 A. D. was the first to call the Church Catholic in his letters.) * But not roman catholic. (The Catholic Church has never called itself the Roman Catholic Church simply because there subsists seven Rites within the Church.)* The early church still used the original 10 commandments because God forbid any man to edit his word. *And the Catholic Church still has all ten commandments. It never removed the second commandment despite what you Protestants desperately need to believe.* 300 years later, roman Catholicism was born *Wrong* when they figured out a way to combine roman paganism with Christianity. *Again wrong. How many contradictory Reformation and Post Reformation groups exist today since October 31, 1517? None of you can even agree on Baptism.* Again read the original 10 commandments and then read this, “Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you.” (Deut. 4:2.) *Actually, that is referring to all of the rules and regulations that God told Moses, not just the Ten Commandments. Tell me something; do you keep all of the rules and regulations that God commanded Moses? Did you get circumcised? Do you follow the Jewish dietary Laws to the letter? I bet you never did.*
@robertstone9342
@robertstone9342 2 ай бұрын
@@georgepierson4920 Before I respond to this. I want to tell you what I do agree with Roman Catholics on. I would prefer we keep this productive. And steer away from attacking each other. And I will apologize up front if my comments come off as that. I love the concept of confession. Iron sharpens iron. And our spiritual leaders would be the best place to go with matters of sin. But confessing and then being forgiven by a man is where we fall away. The man, no man, has the right to forgive sin. Only Christ. I've never in my life ever met a Roman Catholic that I did not like. You guys on the ground floor are the salt of the earth. I'm not questioning your Salvation in any way. I consider us on equal grounds as Christians go. Again, iron sharpens iron. And, I am not claiming that I'm doing it right either. I know I have so much to learn still. God willing I learn everyday. Many Roman Catholics claim that they are the only church and they are the only ones doing it right. This again is where we disagree Can we agree on this? If so, I would be happy to continue our debate. God bless.
@robertstone9342
@robertstone9342 2 ай бұрын
@@georgepierson4920 I was doing some more research into the commandments to have some talking points with you about it and ended up proving myself to be wrong. It seems that I was mislead on this topic. I am apologizing to you and your Faith in general for this one. I did not mean to bear false witness. But I did and I apologize. God bless you and yours.
@balkenkreuz2063
@balkenkreuz2063 10 ай бұрын
How would you respond to the criticism made by the easter orthodox churches and from those ex-catholics how have gone eastwards?
@KeithNester
@KeithNester 10 ай бұрын
That depends on the specific criticism.
@hglundahl
@hglundahl Ай бұрын
9:11 House Churches are not un-Catholic. Lots of cardinal titles in Rome are house churches from the persecution period. It's still practised today, SSPX had what amounted to a house church in Copenhagen for a while.
@edithhewson7208
@edithhewson7208 2 ай бұрын
Universal didn't start till after 300+ A.D.
@Spiritof76Catholic
@Spiritof76Catholic Ай бұрын
Actually the term "Catholic" was derived from the Greek word ка0олк (katholikos), which means "universal" or "general" The term katholikos is equivalent to Ka®óou (katholou), a contraction of the phrase kal' öou (kath' holou) meaning "according to the whole" Thus the full name Catholic Church roughly means "universal" or "whole" church. Acts 9:31 (Greek Bible), "ai men oun ekklesiai kath olēs tes ioudaias kai galilaias kai samareias eichon eirenen oikodomoumenai kai poreuomenai to phobo tou kuriou kai tē paraklēsei tou agiou pneumatos eplēthunonto" EKKLESIA KATH'OLES. Acts 9:31 RSV: So the Church throughout all Judea and Galilee and Samaria had peace and was built up; and walking in the fear of the Lord and in the comfort of the Holy Spirit it was multiplied. Historically around the year A.D. 107, a bishop, St. Ignatius of Antioch in the Near East, was arrested, brought to Rome by armed guards and eventually martyred there in the arena. In a farewell letter Historically around the year A.D. 107, a bishop, St. Ignatius of Antioch in the Near East, was arrested, brought to Rome to be martyred in Rome. In a farewell letter which this early bishop and martyr wrote to his fellow Christians in Smyrna made the first written mention in history of "the Catholic Church." He wrote, "Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" (To the Smyrnaeans 8:2). Thus, the second century of Christianity had scarcely begun when the name of the Catholic Church was already in use.
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