the early logh episodes weren't bad you guys are just mean

its clear here that they have a deep grasp of the fundamentals of human behavior.

[@ImmaLittlePip]

>Locks doors Infront of his adopted son Julian >Tells him to go back to the hotel >Doesn't elaborate >Leaves him in the middle of the city

[@IAm-zo1bo]

>doesn't give him the keys

[@IAm-zo1bo]

(love this anime btw)

[@bluepaint9923]

to take a watsonian view of it, either yang thought julian would be safer outside (why), or he just forgot (very likely lmao)

[@amefuyuu4983]

@@bluepaint9923Yang forgetting makes a lot of sense 😭😭 he probably had an ‘oh shit’ moment after driving for a few minutes

[@The_CGA]

Keep in mind it’s pretty normal for kids as young as 10 to be sent on errands in Japan even in the night. Subways, very tight control of crime, etc.

[@marcinzysko1653]

I dont know what was more akward. Reinhard's way of making new friends, or Kircheis reaction to his sister.

[@nobodyatall6814]

Reinhard didn't want friends.

[@divinesleeper]

0:52 >gets touched by girl >immediately sprints to his bedroom to "be alone" deep grasp of the fundamentals indeed

[@rahadianaryo5979]

01:05 Looks like both *Reinhard and Annerose* getting so confused about why Kircheis is running away...😳

[@Wolfen443]

I believe that he fell in love with her even, but their relationship never gad a chance to happen.

[@IAm-zo1bo]

Entire /a/ joined

[@polishcosmonaut6324]

​@@Wolfen443Its confirmed thing, remember what Reinhard said to her just after he died?

[@dianasofia5075]

First episodes are actually my favourites. A lot of nostalgia after finishing 110 episodes and learning the fates of the characters.

[@lorefox201]

i agree

[@Waldemarvonanhalt]

Same. I enjoyed the early court intrigue and beating the high nobles the most.

[@nickcher7071]

​@@Waldemarvonanhaltthen you'd probably enjoy watching Gaidens as well

[@Waldemarvonanhalt]

@@nickcher7071 I have already. 👍🏻

[@fullfist]

The cast of Logh is so wide yet well developed, so much life, every character gets his time to shine and you almost feel like he or she could be the star at some point or another. It's a true anime epic.

[@Agnosticuzumaki]

It's truly in a league of its own. My some critique of the show is that everybody's thoughts and intents are so well fleshed out It's unrealistic, but you bring up a good point. What if this was the standard for all media?

[@l6e6i6n]

@@Agnosticuzumaki Those are the fundamentals of creating 3 dimensional characters. Rather than having characters whose purpose is to simply shape the plot as conveniently as possible, the characters in logh define the shape of the plot by having their own ideologies and opinions even if at the end of it all they may be irrelevant.

[@AnakinSkyobiliviator]

Huh, people thought early LotGH as bad? This is news to me.

[@ServantOfOdin]

same here. I loved the old show. It's still great now.

[@BreadSanta]

Honestly, there's not a single bad episode. I agree that the animation got way better in the later seasons, but it was already perfectly fine in the beginning.

[@RePhantomz]

@@ServantOfOdin my friend find early LoGH boring because of his personal taste after i recommend it to him. Yep he is more of action movie/anime person.

[@stevangucu522]

LeNnOn 41 I started watching it recently, and I am fan of old school good animation, like in Cowboy Bebop, but I don’t mind animation here because I know it is a product of its time. The script and music make a good pillars that hold this anime, and maybe the animation is not cutting edge, but it is creative and the environments are consistent, and I like the moderation in character design that fits realistic tone. And I like how faces look mature and have roughness, and even look like many of them have faces like the in American animation. This show is really has calm tone which I like and shows that you can make a political drama without using shocking tropes like in Game of Thrones or House of Cards.

[@WorthlessWinner]

I actually dislike late LotGH because it becomes too much of an action show, I like the slower more character focused stuff :I

[@Havocfang2]

"Siegfried. It's a common name, isn't it?" And then, much later., when deliberating on what to name someone... "Siegfried... Such a common name..."

[@nobodyatall6814]

Siegfried = Common name Alexander = Uncommon one

[@DIEGhostfish]

That part was the sweetest bit.

[@lilyvalentine9294]

All of LoGH was amazing. Sure, it was a little cheesy at times, but that just added to its charm for me.

[@SuperBoyboys]

gotta love yang abandoning julian in the city streets Although I think julian grabbing the gun from the suitcase just makes sense, he's like 15 by that point or something, kid's dad being beat on he's gonna reach for the piece

[@greenshadow131]

Also don't forget that many combat military recruits in the FPA were 15.

[@NoNameAtAll2]

piece or peace?

[@SuperBoyboys]

@@NoNameAtAll2 Piece, as in slang for carried firearm.

[@dpage446]

This is one of the few anime in which while watching it it felt more like a western movie than a japanese production

[@IRUKANJI]

Notably it felt like a "Period Western" with the Empire depicted like a Gilded Age European piece and the FPA side depicted like a 1930s American period piece.

[@TCBYEAHCUZ]

The early episodes are the best on the first time you watch the series but you don't realise it once you reach the end ;_;

[@fullfist]

Logh is good throughout, there's a lot of humanity in it missing from so many hollow 2010s animes. Many current directors don't bother researching the human interactions of history, the wholesomeness and differences in sex, age, class and occupation are cut for generic scenes.

[@esu21productions42]

Oberstein telling Kircheis to shoot him is hilarious for some reason

[@rahadianaryo5979]

03:23 That awkward moment when Paul von Oberstein telling down Siegfried Kircheis to *shoot him* ...🔫😆

[@NoNameAtAll2]

Kircheis: shoots him Oberstein: pikachu face

[@SmugCanadian]

The first like 26 episodes are my favourite, so much happens and we get to know so many characters.

[@Smoothbluehero]

What’s wrong? I for one think early LotGH is better than later. Short haired Reinhard is better than any of the super saiyan versions, he was just sick all the time.

[@SoloQueuer69]

yeah, reinhard was way better in the earlier episodes, he kinda became sick and sassy later on. personally i liked the later eps just because they started really fleshing out side characters, and the antagonists were a bit more interesting imo

[@user-pu1bs9eh7v]

I remmeber watching 3rd arc, and enjoying but at the same time telling myself "oh, those first episodes were more fun and I didnt appreciate them enough".

[@fearedjames]

@@SoloQueuer69 Reinhardt in the later episodes is over emotional and prone to stupid decisions. In the early episodes he's a decisive and effective person whos clearly a cut above his fellows. The problem is that no one ever reflects on his drastic drop in leadership ability.

[@LlamaLopez]

@@fearedjames I think while Reinhard did indeed get worse as the show progressed, the rest of the characters and story only got better. Seasons 3>2>4>1

[@localneo-graphic4647]

@@fearedjames I don't have a problem with that actually, because if only Kircheis was there, he would've been a more effective leader. In all seriousness, I actually think he's the most under appreciated character. I actually think Oberstein is a fucking idiot for what he did, Kircheis was far wiser than he was. Kircheis recognized the need for Machiavellian decisions sometimes, which is why he never spoke against Oberstein, even when he morally disagreed with him. Instead, he put his faith in his friend, believing he was qualified to make the decisions he couldn't. Oberstein was too stupid to see the inverse, he was also pretty useless and inconsequential after the first season.

[@Waldemarvonanhalt]

>King's wife Lmao, that's his concubine, my dude.

[@rahadianaryo5979]

05:02 "Casually eavesdropping the Kaiser's concubine" would be *more accurate description* about this one subtitle yet...

[@joshuabrant3487]

I don't see anything wrong with this tbh

[@rahadianaryo5979]

05:19 "And it was the moment *Commodore Falk* knew it: He f**ked up 😵" (Then try to watch an iteration of this one certain scene on *Die Neue These anime* yet...)

[@liesandvideotape]

@@rahadianaryo5979 this scene literally had the most vibrant facial expression up to that point

[@rahadianaryo5979]

@@liesandvideotape Yeah baby...😉 (A version of that scene from DNT anime is *equally hillarious* too...😱, just *watch it* ...)

[@garitaevz]

5:54 Please yang stop, i can only be endeared so much by you

[@straighter100]

I do agree that the quality of episode increases as the series move on, but the early episode weren't un-watchable!

[@anenemystand5582]

I had never watched the original anime until this year. I had only ever read the books. I have to say the first episodes are not... great. The exposition is painful, The pacing is super weird, and the number of unnecessary flash backs makes me want to die. But I'm sticking with it. After all it's not like this show became a classic for no reason.

[@billsykes2977]

@@anenemystand5582 Have you ever seen Overture to New War? It is much better introduction to story than first 2 OVA episodes.

[@johnsa6453]

"Hiiii"

[@rahadianaryo5979]

02:23 (sees a guy *getting stuck in the rope* ) "Hello there...😘"

[@Games4life2700]

These are great episodes. You learn about the character's personality and where they are coming from.

[@nelsonsmg77]

If the early episodes of LOGH were "bad" then most, if not all, anime are garbage in comparison

[@TheLejonell]

Logh is amazing but the redrawn frames disgust me.

[@SchwarzesSchweigen]

Agreed! But it's impossible to find the original laserdisc version anymore. I just come to KZbin when I want to see very specific impactful scenes and put up with the rest.

[@esu21productions42]

TheLejonell some of them were an improvement over the original imo

[@Jinsh1911]

Wait, why there's redrawn frames?

[@SchwarzesSchweigen]

Jin Because, as Mlk pointed out, some of the original scenes were not of very good quality. The colours or the drawings were off, so they were remade. And I would have no problem with that, but I think they kind of overdid it --some were not that bad and didn't need a full redraw. The change in style is often too obvious and some of the characters' features or expressions are lost. Also, their faces, particularly Yang's, can look rather red at times. But that's just my personal opinion.

[@AbystomaMexicanium]

@@SchwarzesSchweigen Not impossible, just hard if you don't have access to private trackers.

[@diegoferreira7642]

All logh episodes are great

[@cyrusol]

Man, the camera angles when Kircheis runs up the stairs... it looks like a Martin Scorcese movie right there. They just don't make something like this in modern anime.

[@sindurgoku8022]

LOGH aged like fine wine, and it is comparable to DS-9 in many regards.

[@DIEGhostfish]

Someone recently pointed out the very start of Gaiden 2's opening sounds a bit like DS9's

[@tengogato]

I don't know what this video is trying to say but i appreciate the clip compilation.

[@alternative915]

Tho crammed with information on the first couple of episodes, but other than that, i really enjoy the early arc's, and make you appreciate Kircheis and Jessica Character more, as their influence is ironically the very straw that going broke the alliances and empire back much like goldenbaum influences.

[@sadol8584]

I think its fine, started to really enjoy it around episode 18 though.

[@starhunterterra9849]

The graphics are not great, but the story and character's plots are worth the watching anyway. Is like any old Anime, graphics are dated but they hold certain magic about them in retrospect.

[@Ice.muffin]

I personally love the late 80s-90s style of anime, was my favorite and certainly loved Lotgh ^^.

[@benjaminstorace6699]

I prefer this animation and art style to the dead feeling animation and art style of the remake.

[@Skadi609]

@@Ice.muffin There's a certain smoothness and realism in 80's-90's animation that I like☺

[@Ice.muffin]

@@Skadi609 Yes, that's exactly it!! Perfectly captured the essence of those years with these words: smoothness and realism.

[@Skadi609]

@@Ice.muffin Angel's egg, Ghost In the Shell, Cowboy Bebop just to name a few 😉

[@user-vh6ue8pi1c]

あの場にアンネローゼ来なければローエングラム朝はなかった？

[@n543576]

*Sniff* Yang at 5:55......

[@rahadianaryo5979]

Julian just telling *Yang Wen-Li* to not go empty handed... "You can't go empty handed."

[@mo7ammad_s242]

Who said that the early episodes were bad?

[@crunkalac]

The whole point of the show is Reinhard fulfilling his promise to Kircheis. ****Spoilers***** Once he does that Reinhard symbolically dies from an inexplicable disease. The early episodes are hugly important to Reinhard's character development because of Kircheis.

[@AshG321M]

actually Reinhard is the one who have dreams and Kircheis was the way to lead Reinhard to it, after hid death it was almost pointless for Reinhard to go forward but thanks to yang he remembered what is goal was

[@rahadianaryo5979]

@@AshG321M 01:23 Reinhard: "You did a good job 👍" Kircheis: "I'm very sorry..."

[@andresamartins26]

It is not an inexplicable disease. It is a genetic disease and they do explain it on the show.

[@user-ey2tp5ef2v]

この命令を彼は死ぬまで守ろうと誓い、また、実際に守り抜きました🫡

[@99jean88]

It's just a polite kid from the master race nobility. Nothing wrong to be see here.

[@localneo-graphic4647]

The early episodes do fall short of S2 and S3, partly because of the lower budget, mostly because of the characters outside the main cast. Most are cartoonish morons for our heroes to walk over on their ascent to power. I mean I get that the civil war is supposed to be meritocracy > aristocracy, but holy shit, if there was a bad idea or a bad trait available to be had, the a aristocracy had it and then some.

[@landbeforetimeee]

It makes sense that they would be, especially on the Imperial side. It's glossed over, but humanity under the Galactic Federation and early empire numbered over 300 billion, and that was confined to Imperial space. By the time of logh, Imperial population was under 25 billion. The empire was in a death spiral of corruption and ineptitude, it's only natural morons with nothing going for them but family pedigree would occupy a majority of powerful positions.

[@prototypeinheritance515]

The Music playing during the first scene is Wagner's Siegfried idyll.

[@christiannewaye7306]

Only thing I don’t like is the art style changing back and forth

[@billsykes2977]

That's the issue with remmastered version. Original didn't have that.

[@Kei-im9yh]

@@billsykes2977 Where can i watch the original version ??

[@billsykes2977]

@@Kei-im9yh There is laserdisk torrent on Pirate Bay.

[@billsykes2977]

@@Kei-im9yh It is on youtube also. I ll leave link later.

[@billsykes2977]

@@Kei-im9yh kzbin.info/www/bejne/j3LaeJhvjaiobtE

[@user-gi8hh4el7e]

アンネローゼはきっと「分かってる」

[@EdMcStinko]

I love how Walters provocations bounce off Yang like they dont mean anything

[@irishcream9004]

Season one is my favorite

[@liesandvideotape]

The facial expressions are a little off in the early episodes, no other complaints

[@billsykes2977]

I finsihed season 1 two weeks ago, and I think it was good, but I was expecting better. Is it getting better?

[@SoloQueuer69]

i think the first season for the most part has a reputation for being the worst part of the show. you might enjoy what comes after :^) i sure did

[@billsykes2977]

Distraction Everyone was talking it is: Masterpeace above all masterpeaces. So I was little bit disapointed :) I will start watching season 2 in few days or sooner. If what I saw is worst part, then the rest muts be really good.

[@vulfreyde]

It gets better with each season.

[@geradgerardus4073]

I am almost at the end but do not have the heart to finish it. I really got sad when my favorite character dissapeared... I have now set my sights on Dusty!

[@leeworley6727]

bill sykes you now have yang wenli as your profile pic so im guessing you finished it lol

[@dimmorashuvant3784]

old version is better,,, except 'pretty women' just looks like beautiful guy with long hair

[@LoveFor298Yen]

1:00 zoomin

[@leonenjoyer]

Compared to the 6 billionth battle of Iserlohn this is a treat

[@qianhongxiang8385]

how... i loved the early eps, cuz all the characters were still alive

[@edgarr8339]

I finished the original 110 episodes in 4 months. I like it better than the new 2018 remake. Only the battles look better the character designs are not so good.

[@SoloQueuer69]

i couldnt stand watching the remake past 2-3 episodes; the character designs were so generic and unrealistic :^( old logh is so good bc 150+ characters and all of them managed to look unique despite all of them having practical, non-covering haircuts

[@danieltsiprun8080]

just finished the show yesterday and i loved but, I swear some of the writing is worse than George Lucas writing romance in the prequls.

[@user-eu2dl7ck9r]

ラインハルト凄い上から目線で最初このシーン見たとき少しイラっときた。まぁ子供だしこういうのも可愛げがあるといえばあるけどさ笑。

[@Spicywolf-yn1gt]

ラインハルトも日本で言えば太郎とか一郎だからジークフリードを上回る俗っぽさｗ

[@YoshiCookie]

They’re all good.

[@RunicRhino22]

1:00 sieg probs got a stiffy from that xD

[@gunblast268]

Ryan Nicholson shut up freak

[@SoloQueuer69]

that's exactly what i thought too! running as soon as you see that hot older sister is proof of kircheis' tactical genius

[@RunicRhino22]

@@SoloQueuer69 lol

[@Ice.muffin]

Ryan Nicholson So _that_ was the explanation all along ahah😅... Foolish me believing 10 year olds are still innocent cupcakes 😮😰.

[@jonstfrancis]

I got a stiffy from that xD

[@Wolfen443]

3:09, that Game of Thrones scene between Littlefinger and Cersei, Power Is Power is well very relatable to that one.

[@HTA80390]

アンネローゼは巨乳

[@shapiropyiannopoulos8724]

Season 1 > Season 4

[@thean1896]

I mean, i lost interest after Astrate after all that happen because early eps is just superb Those who said early episode bad just coping for being too edgy

[@jomariangelborja5036]

Hi!

[@sharp52092]

I wish this one had an English dub.

[@aster4jaden]

Apparently it does on Hidive but I haven't seen it.

[@Pan_Z]

Why? I can't imagine a better cast for Reinhard, Yang, Reuenthal, and many other characters.

[@theoutsider8031]

It does have a dub, but it’s horrendous.

[@nazaren45]

👍👍

[@TogameRosecraft]

lol 🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹

[@dimmorashuvant3784]

I prefer white subtitles. (What the hell)

[@fearedjames]

Usually I'd agree, but this translations choice of yellow during ground and generally brighter lit scenes and blue in space and darker scenes was really effective IMO.