Turning around to look at your team before you dive is the equivalent of looking both ways before crossing the road.
@Unterr2 ай бұрын
this coaching housed me.
@binkltinАй бұрын
@kirbyppg2 ай бұрын
Jesus, managing OW content and med school’s crazy, you’re dedicated asf. Good luck on both!!!
@HomelessCoaching2 ай бұрын
Thank you
@induperator80072 ай бұрын
As reinhardt, when you keep your shield up and hold your attack button, you can look around, which makes the looking back a lot easier. The game never explains this and I don't know a lot of people that know about it!
@itsovermyhead94016 күн бұрын
I have been told this over and over I'm starting to think it's a PC thing I try on the console and it immediately drops my sheild and I swing unless it's also a keybind for the controller
@MrHardAppl32 ай бұрын
I can feel my rank increasing to champ 1 just from watching this video. Truly incredible stuff.
@TomRakewell5272 ай бұрын
I had to turn around just to make sure you weren’t talking to the person behind me. There was no one there. I’m dead.
@mattiagraffe2 ай бұрын
this shits so good i forgot about ksi last song
@Mademesmile632 ай бұрын
lol
@jsrhedgehog99812 ай бұрын
From the screen to the ring to the pen to the KING
@rez9386Ай бұрын
The concept of looking back started disappearing as i won maybe 10 games straight. The rank started testing me and then i lost 12 plus games out of 15 games. But your insight of playing a specific positioning on certain maps with your teammates opened my eyes. Ive had some games where we are up on a fight thats 5v3 and somehow lost it. And its just due to the fact that 2 of our guys were fighting the other 2 enemies alone and then it started to snow ball. Ty for this video!
@Turtlpwr2 ай бұрын
TLDW: as a tank, turn around to check where your team is, use line of sight, be wary of your teams positioning before push a teamfight.
@Gressdeil2 ай бұрын
Thank you for being a homeless man so you can attire true knowledge of being a tank. Thank you for your sacrifice
@notKyoshi2 ай бұрын
0:24 Cant believe the bald man would say that
@Avionnnn2 ай бұрын
That whooshing sfx at 3:01 scared me and its not even halloween yet.
@kamruzzamancanon22792 ай бұрын
8:26 we do see the ram is alone but can we talk about why's the entire team so far behind? what angle is ashe holding? junks angle makes sense, whys juno is that room too? and mercy is just pocketing ashe. yes ram's fault for staying there alone and not staying w his team but i think we should address what the rest of the team was doing too, specially when ashe mercy juno can def have better positioning to help out the ram and not the other way around. if the ram backs up, they just donate that entire space to the enemy team
@Mcqueen265062 ай бұрын
I think it was because of the widowmaker. Ram can't do much except shield her - and she can change position anyway. They also dont have a flanker to contest her.
@saunaaddikti642Ай бұрын
@@Mcqueen26506 Widow can just go forward and then they just back up more? I think that you just cant give space for free all the time. Is backing up to that corner the right choice?
@theinstituteofmonkeygunvio2542Ай бұрын
@@saunaaddikti642 The corner is where the widow loses potency. On the long original LOS she also is playing out of spawn, so you've pretty much got to one-shot her or she just heals up immediately. And of course the fact that the fighting is now in medium range rather than long range.
@marcushowling6552 ай бұрын
Actually such a well produced video
@willhunter2358Ай бұрын
just finished med school in Aus, good on you for making content while grinding, love your vids
@Deathhorse2 ай бұрын
I've had your videos recommened to me many times before, but for some reason i didn't want to watch them (judging a book by it's cover). However, i've watched many coaching videos on tanks or other heroes, however coaches rarely explain what the basic terminology actually means and showing examples of it. I finally understood what peel and holding space actually mean. Thank you for making this video!
@HomelessCoaching2 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching! My goal is to make educational content as accessible as possible for all players and so far it sounds like I'm doing alright. Thanks again for your support, more videos to come.
@acativ99 күн бұрын
thanks coach! before i found your video i was climbing and i didnt realize its because i was looking back at my team to see where they are positioned in. your video helped me see why and how i got better, and now i will do better at looking back knowing that it is the right thing to do before and during every fight
@chip_76772 ай бұрын
THE GOAT RETURNS
@cosmicdorito32822 ай бұрын
homeless coaching imma buy u a house bro this content good
@asianvulcan2 ай бұрын
didnt even watch, already know this is a goat vid
@meta-memes90602 ай бұрын
Very good video. Points are extremely relevant
@noonbunie2 ай бұрын
Very helpful video!
@TurtleDucki2 ай бұрын
this hit harder than the 2008 housing collapse that left me homeless
@avadanocum64952 ай бұрын
Good video, i myself see most people dont look around on any role, but information is crucial on tank. But i dont play the role anymore bc of oneshots, and simm being busted for 4 seasons straight
@haashim14112 ай бұрын
Great video
@theviewer93632 ай бұрын
I just hate when you want to try a different angle and none of your team follows you
@samuelhughes2 ай бұрын
Great insightful video as always, the goat, keep it up man
@halen78462 ай бұрын
There’s so many advanced concepts that built off of eachother in a competitive game like this and you’re one of those genuinely good coaches that found a way to condense the main points and make them digestible for the less experienced
@HomelessCoaching2 ай бұрын
Thank you, that's my goal
@leogreen61762 ай бұрын
This felt like a personal attack. After i got over the realization ive been flaming support for the past 4 seasons i realized this shit actually really helpful (just going flame dps instead)
@nemesyssss2 ай бұрын
I would love a similar video on the dps role, a common mistake that happens at every rank and how to fix it
@MJ-jd4zc2 ай бұрын
Yet another tip to make me a better player
@501Labsmusic2 ай бұрын
Now all you need is skill 😊
@mattmurray032 ай бұрын
Another great video!! Goated channel
@mattc94092 ай бұрын
Can you show more examples ? I know it seems like common sense but creating a part 2 with more examples and with pro games would really REALLY help. Also I’ve liked and subscribed to your channel. Good stuff !
@HomelessCoaching2 ай бұрын
I'll consider a part 2 definitely
@Burgerboy60122 ай бұрын
lmao such a funny and very informative video
@MollyL52 ай бұрын
Gonna try this. Joined your discord too. I never turn around. Plat 1 rn. Will update commenters if I make significant progress from this one vid
@xXMigue9712Xx2 ай бұрын
Amazing video and great explanations! Could you please make a video on wrecking ball? I know there are some particularities with ball in regard to these tips.
@HomelessCoaching2 ай бұрын
He is a very niche hero, so I would have to do some more research
@animeworldorder2 ай бұрын
I have been saying "turn around, JUST TURN AROUND!" in this game for years, and while I'm still in Gold because nobody will actually do it as Reaper or whoever flanks yet again, at least it makes me feel better to know that it's the right thing to be telling people...though, the fact that this will still be the case even in Master's suggests I should just give up entirely
@Bloubz772 ай бұрын
nope, you shouldn't be telling your teammates anything about the way they play, unless they are your friends/duo and ask for feedback. It's not just to be a nice person, it is because this will almost never actually make you win the game, on the contrary. If some stranger yells at you in a game, you're never going to listen to them, even if they are right. You may throw on purpose though, just to annoy them, or give up that game
@animeworldorder2 ай бұрын
@@Bloubz77 Man, I'm not communicating to teammates. I have chat and voice disabled because the last thing I want to hear or see is other people being wrong or mad (there are zero constructive comms in metal ranks; never has been, never will be). I'm just yelling out loud into the void.
@Bloubz772 ай бұрын
@@animeworldorder lmao sorry, that's perfect then. Let's keep yelling into the void in our precious metal ranks
@undertakerreaper4482 ай бұрын
Bro is healing the ranks and irl🙏
@StarCrow77Gaming2 ай бұрын
WE LEARNING HOME HOW TO RANK WITH THIS ONE BOYS 🗣️ 🔥
@javierramirez22402 ай бұрын
0:15 good song choice
@lemonpancake1106Ай бұрын
I can personally verified this, cuz i just went 51 and 5 on Dva in a bronze silver ish lobby, the enemy tank kept switching but it didnt work
@StaySimpleKevT_T2 ай бұрын
also feel like supports in certain scenarios can help you with "turning around" for instance in that match where it was a 2v5 orisa and ana I feel like in a comp game with coms ana can say stuff like "just me and you" or "come back its just us" so instead of putting your back against the whole team you can back up while maintain focus of minimizing death chances
@StaySimpleKevT_T2 ай бұрын
supports can help you*
@ruaridhgosden36422 ай бұрын
Holy omega based 🔥
@jarskii112 ай бұрын
Realised this sometime ago. Went from plat to master winton 1t
@genericname71632 ай бұрын
GOAT
@CharlieCheeseman-wv1yv2 ай бұрын
I agree being in LOS of your team is extremely important on tank. However I think it's important to clarify with the exception of Dva and specific scenarios where you can capitalise on a out of position flanger, it is not your job as the tank to hard peel for your supports. I see so many times supports dying in the back from a sombra, tracer, ball etc. and complaning for the tank to look behind and help. When the tank does help peel for there supports they lose so much space and the enemy team can push up for free and kill the whole team.
@lukeaustin44652 ай бұрын
Yeah you're right your job isn't really to peel on tank but you should be forcing out cooldowns on the enemy supports yourself when on tank, the best tanks to do that on are doom and ball, more so doom. Doom doesn't have to wait for the poke solution in the neutral fight he can aggress early by slam cycling and building ult so he can use empowered punch in the enemy tanks backline, where he can either get a pick on one of the supports or force out key cooldowns like lamp or suzu.
@Kingjoffrey12Ай бұрын
bro i was hooping and hollering while you were doing that absolutely, GOATED, monologue at the start. #fuckingshitrole
@heavyweather_2 ай бұрын
ur awesum bro
@timothy_b032 ай бұрын
This is why the should add a mini map that shows your team mates 🤫
@HikaruOfficial2 ай бұрын
Watching this got me a home
@lukeaustin44652 ай бұрын
Learn ball and doomfist, they get to bypass the gameplay loop that most of the other tanks have to engage in which is sit on a safe angle in neutral and wait for the poke solution. If you aggress in the neutral phase on the other tanks you end up demanding resources which would be better used on your dps teammates instead (lamp, suzu etc.) On doom you just slam cycle, build ult and use empowered punch on the enemy tanks backline to pick off a support or just bait out there cds. If your team still can't kill the enemy tank when they don't have resources then your team just sucks.
@saucegotti94162 ай бұрын
What about when they go hog sombra cassidy Ana and brig? Then what. Just having a sombra or hog makes it so hard to play doom for me. When I know I can just go dva and farm them
@lukeaustin44652 ай бұрын
@@saucegotti9416 hey man I'm gonna be real with you you're better off not dedicating your time to learning how to play single tank optimally because the optimal way to play single tank is mind numbingly boring.
@saucegotti94162 ай бұрын
@@lukeaustin4465 counter swapping is by far way worst tho
@TSGC162 ай бұрын
Ngl just dont play tank until they bring back 6v6
@lukeaustin44652 ай бұрын
@@TSGC16 I don't blame you, in 6v6 there was an actual meaningful frontline resource trade. Now you are basically incentivised to not do anything in the neutral on tank which is so boring.
@Voodoo31822 күн бұрын
This is ok advice.. but it’s all about how the tank has to adapt to the team… the problem is the team is playing passive and scared and not pushing as needed and causing the tank to die. People don’t know how to play this game as a team. I’m so sick of playing ranked and having to carry just to win games because my teammates are garbage. Blizzard needs to fix their ranking systems to be based upon individual performance, instead of win/loss, especially when solo queuing.
@user-rg9co7dk2r2 ай бұрын
Would you be in support for a mini map so that turning around wasn't necessary and this was more intuitive?
@metaslave55662 ай бұрын
You a console player?
@user-rg9co7dk2r2 ай бұрын
@@metaslave5566 yeah after actually trying to use this advice, and then being on console so turning around takes too much to carry it out to be an option most of the time, I am sad
@ponx_apex2 ай бұрын
A HUD in the lower left hand corner, under your battle tag, that shows your teammates health would be a huge improvement. They already have it in the replays. Why not implement it in the game
@Rob-zq6bh2 ай бұрын
Yeah, it's really weird that tanks and dps camt see friendly health. I get it's less relevant cuz they cant heal, but its still important enough to know. Especially on tank. not so much on dps, as i find myself caring less about it when i play that role. I still think it's a worthwhile update for down the road for all roles
@Turtlpwr2 ай бұрын
As a supp main and tank flex, I’ve wanted this since OG OW
@WunderWulfe2 ай бұрын
for me its not turning around, its my slow hampter brain trying to decide what to do and where to go mid fight 😿
@Thomas-xl8zf2 ай бұрын
COACH I STILL DON'T TURN AROUND ENOUGH! But after watching this video I know I'm going focus on doing that in my games Too often do I go deep on the enemy backline and say "WHERE IS MY TEAM?!?" WHY? BECAUSE I DID NOT TURN TF AROUND 😭
@Dirt_OW2 ай бұрын
This cured me
@remy57902 ай бұрын
@sacha pls take notes
@SolarScreamzКүн бұрын
this has got to be the core of why i stopped climbing on tank... especially as a JQ OT. when i started playing tank it was about being a good teammate, but recently its been about being a good JQ. not as great of a perspective
@funnyhour1012 ай бұрын
For the hog (chedbundy) example, this a case of overconfidence. Pros and top 500 play like this a lot, but it's because they hit their cool downs. If he hooked the tracer, the other 2 would have likely fallen back.
@jackdaniel47212 ай бұрын
Hoping to get out of plat this season. I hit Diamond 4 on dps just to go on an insane loss streak 😞
@HomelessCoaching2 ай бұрын
Good luck with that!
@danishboi35832 ай бұрын
Hoping to get to plat this season. My peak so far is gold 2.
@HomelessCoaching2 ай бұрын
Good luck with that! Remember to maintain a small hero pool, focus on yourself and check out my other videos
@TheRaktorАй бұрын
Wow just tried it. I didn't know I had so many teamates
@ComeoutwithyourhandsupАй бұрын
Turning around is my biggest problem as a console player. I cant flick. To look completely behind me and back its almost a full second
@juliosilva230127 күн бұрын
R.I.P. McCree.
@officialregirock40212 ай бұрын
It really is as shrimple as that
@aaronphipps3035Ай бұрын
Nice
@pyb8216Ай бұрын
as a tank i turn around to see 3 people emoting on payload and it depress me
@urmamge2 ай бұрын
winton
@Regen_2 ай бұрын
Winton
@amrogaming92612 ай бұрын
Welp- guess whos out of gold tank because of this
@Frogga_UFO2 ай бұрын
Tanking is not about 1v5, it's about your entire team. You have to think AND play for all 5 players on your team, not just for yourself. The moment I realized this is the moment I stopped having a "playstyle". Now when I play tank I do exactly what has to be done, and it includes EVERYTHING from trying my best to help my DPS with their job, helping my supports with being safe, and only then I think about my on own play and my tanking responsibilities. Started doing all that and reached t500 by one tricking Orisa SO EASILY that Im not even sure there's anything cool about it
@Kayun-2 ай бұрын
speak for yourself lmao, you prob play orisa, every other tank has a playstyle (i typed orisa before i even read your whole comment)
@Frogga_UFO2 ай бұрын
@@Kayun- in overwatch there's no such thing as "I do this because this is my play style". If u do that you might end up diving on Doom into Sombra+cass+orisa+ana+zen. You can't have a playstyle because all games are different. I mean sure u can, but you just gonna fail half of the time. The only playstyle there is in Overwatch is constantly adjusting to what's happening
@Frogga_UFO2 ай бұрын
@@Kayun- it applies to all tanks and to all roles. If u think otherwise ur probably just autopiloting
@apexkirbs16422 ай бұрын
A lot of this could be solved if they just gave us a minimap with team icons
@thailandmalcolm25 күн бұрын
I am aiming to get out of Bronze. I am 61. I think I am going to just start playing tank. Maybe that will help. I like playing mei. I think a tank play and mei player (with mics) would greatly help one another. I am working on my tank play.
@osrsgold25472 ай бұрын
Why team not push up 🤔
@Just_Asking_601Ай бұрын
This is great info, but sad at the same time. It puts more work on the tank when the majority of the responsibility was already on the tank. Also, there is less responsibility on blizzard to fix the SR system.
@godofthebeat35172 ай бұрын
Monke
@genesisnineteen95793 күн бұрын
I’m watching this vid to get better at marvel rivals lol
@shaikkygames28002 ай бұрын
Tank is my worst role I need this
@kiddyoshii6419 күн бұрын
fuck this game and everything it has going for it… i’m still gonna play it tho
@timosith98142 ай бұрын
If i turn around on concole i lose the point lmao
@metrius98Ай бұрын
Tbh tank is the only role that has the health and time to just TURN AROUND AND OBSERVE.
@echomain-gm9nr2 ай бұрын
yea, but when I watch replay, I have line of sight, I have 4 enemy players in front of me, but my team dies to a single genji, what? they lost 4v1? so I checked pov, oh, the widow is off by herself, dies to genji, then genji one shot the hanzo as well, who is out of LOS of his healers ofc, then genji blades our ana, and dies to kiriko..that is just me, I can't be fked peeling a 4v1, if I lose, I lose.
@owolord-xm7ss2 ай бұрын
Pushing for Champ 1 (im plat)
@GrecianGoat20 күн бұрын
Tank diff(icult)
@corbinallen45622 ай бұрын
I have my own guide for you guys. How to carry on tank and have fun. Step 1 wait until 6v6 comes back or play a custom 6v6 games. Step 2 get good. Congratulations you did it your on your way to being the best overwatch player ever.
@natahx2787Ай бұрын
This isn’t the easiest on console when it takes 3-5 business days to turn around…
@MaskedDespair2 ай бұрын
Who are you
@smolpener7430Ай бұрын
Spinning around on a 100 rpm swivel seems like pretty poor advice, compared to the team just saying what they need. If widow can't get a line of sight and knows exactly why, they should open their mouth, or accept the accusations of uselessness.
@Shifft-This2 ай бұрын
3:32 I fundamentally disagree with this. There's a reason why the term "tank privilege" (basically "adjust") is used in most MMORPG's nowadays. It's because there's some things tanks will ignore because it's not their job and they have enough stuff to track in encounters as is. Having to worry about whether or not your Widow has proper line of sight is not a tank's job. Just... IN GENERAL it's not the tanks job to position around his team. The team should be positioning around the tank. Otherwise, why even let the tank choose encounters? He should just hang back in safe areas near his team and die and let his team blame him for not taking space because the tank needs to be positioning around his team instead of the enemy team. When you play a tank... you HAVE to assume that your team will follow you and position around you. Because if you assume that your team REFUSES to position around you... then all you can do is play safe, and most of those matches will be losses because that will free up space for the enemy tank to get into better positions to wipe out your team. It's really quite simple: If you ARE the tank, positioning is your number 1 goal and your position should almost always remove space for the enemy tank to position into. If you AREN'T the tank you need to be positioning around the player that is. End of discussion. Edit: I should clarify that I still agree with the commenter at the time that I linked that the better play would have been to be positioned in a way that benefits the Widowmaker; I simply think it's the Widowmaker's job to position herself in a place that she can get LoS during a fight in which her tank is actively engaged in battle. That's not to say that being aware of your healers LoS isn't important, it's just in heated fights as a tank (assuming your healer is still alive) you have to assume that your healer is at least trying to keep up with their tank's movements. With that said... yea turning around and knowing where your team is located is great advice and should be done before every fight.
@samuelhughes2 ай бұрын
I think the OWL coach might have more of an idea about what a player should be doing
@einfachanwesend2 ай бұрын
Sadly these videos are useless no matter what role you play... Best example the last ranking reset, I platinum 4 support am now thrown together with bronze silver teammates. Those who can't get anything done, point out something in a friendly manner and are immediately flamed. In the end my teammates have 5 kills despite pocket heal. I always try to learn something new from such videos but in the end they are useless if you have teammates who can do absolutely nothing🥴🙏🏼 And no, I'm definitely not the best player but when I'm put together with Bronze Silver players, I get so damn pissed And I would love to turn the head of the Blizzard employee who came up with this idea of wide Q 🤝🏽
@OW2LEARNING2 ай бұрын
Well actually, this just means you are a client.
@einfachanwesend2 ай бұрын
@@OW2LEARNING Well with all due respect I'm not the best as I said but if my m8's are holding me back what can I do, then I can do what I want if they don't even get kills 😭
@OW2LEARNING2 ай бұрын
@@einfachanwesend There is always something you could have done better. There is usually a way to carry the game (with some exceptions). I guarantee you are making major mistakes in your games that are holding you back. This victim mindset of "oh my teammates are bad" is what will hold you back for as long as you play.
@IamPhishizzle22 ай бұрын
So basically: Babysit your dumb teammates and don't feed. The yapping during the Junkertown examples missed the mark but the other examples were fine. It's like 2 different people made the script for this video. 1 knew what he was talking about and the other was just padding the script.
@samuelhughes2 ай бұрын
I think you ought to rewatch the video if that’s your only take away from it… very much not what he said to do
@lukeaustin44652 ай бұрын
You don't feed by not aggressing in the neutral fight because if you aggress in the neutral you just end up demanding resources from your supports. just hold a safe angle and wait for the poke solution. You only aggress if your team is up by one or if your team has both an angle advantage and a resource advantage. Unfortunately this is the optimal way of playing single tank unless you're playing ball or doomfist who can bypass that. There's no meaningful frontline trade anymore, there was one when there were two tanks.
@Mcqueen265062 ай бұрын
The junkertown examples were clear as day lol, the orisa took a 2v5 angle and the hog walked into a 1v3 because they both didn't pay attention to their teams position. I would love to know what rank you are because you seem clueless
@IamPhishizzle22 ай бұрын
@@Mcqueen26506 Both Junkertown examples were just feeders doing everything wrong. Nothing to learn there. Picking an Orisa vs Hog game and talking about game sense is also a joke. Maybe it makes sense in low mmr or for people considering coaching from this guy.
@Mcqueen265062 ай бұрын
@@IamPhishizzle2 Still waiting for your rank. The junkertown examples and the ram example were masters, which is in the top decile of all ranked players. I wonder how they got there if they're doing EVERYTHING wrong. Surely you must be really high mmr and way better than these guys, why don't you drop us a replay code too?