Though not for everyone or every situation, Evertune is a cheat code for this concept. It taught me to notice and be aware of transient tuning variation. Now it drives me crazy but is worth the time on standard bridges to get it right. Great vid!
@alrecks6196 ай бұрын
Evertune is one of the things that we did not deserve but clearly needed.
@mandubien6 ай бұрын
That was EYE OPENING! Thank you for this concept!
@MixReady6 ай бұрын
I agree 100%! If you‘re serious about your recordings, you will want to check the tuning a lot. Or get a guitar with Evertune ❤️
@Christian.Means.5 ай бұрын
Random question, do you guys plan on doing a mix ready preset pack for the new GGD Brutal using stock plugins for Studio One anytime soon?? 🤔
@AngeloMerte6 ай бұрын
The simplest thing would be a working Smash&Grab compressor, but you'd rather not fix it and sell it anyway, even though it has none of its core functions lol For those who don't know: At least on macOS, the different modes for kick, snare etc don't work because they all have the same settings. About a year ago it was said in the Facebook group that there would be a fix. Turns out there still isn't a fix and they are still selling the non-functioning plugin for $100. Well done...
@GetGoodDrums6 ай бұрын
Keep an eye out in the next couple of days!
@dtrmnts6 ай бұрын
Glad someone said this. I've been eyeing it for a long time but waiting for it to go on sale but drumforge seems to have the same thing.
@theperiidot6 ай бұрын
Reading this comment after they released the patch confused me for a second lmao
@edwardrummer6 ай бұрын
Brilliant! Will definitely be trying this out , thanks Joe 🙏 Ps 8:53 handles on cups are overrated 😅
@BeHeardStudio6 ай бұрын
As far as I like the tip and what not, It's such a sly brilliant way to promote hot GGD products and affiliate. Rock on GGD!
@MichaelSheaAudio6 ай бұрын
I wouldn't say that chopping up the performance and changing the tuning for each chord or riff is "easy". It's more tedious and surgical, and kinda takes the fun out of recording. Sure, it sounds more in tune, but does it actually matter? If your guitar is intonated, it's in tune, and you play it well, then people won't know or care that some notes are slightly out of tune, because that's what guitars sound like and we've heard them that way since their inception. We accept that our tuning system is imperfect. And I believe that you can still make a clean, modern production without trying to perfect the performances, it's not just for raw, noisy styles. If you want your metal music to sound like MIDI, then go for it, but it's not easy and at least from my point of view, is undesirable.
@sebastianviuf6 ай бұрын
I am all for modern productions. But keep the human element alive
@sebrura6 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly. In general, perfect is boring.
@YeahButStilll6 ай бұрын
I don’t think perfect tuning is boring or that it removes the human element, I just have never heard of any producers record guitar that way. I’m sure they’re out there but I’d bet less than 1% of records I listen to are tuned chord by chord and I’ve never noticed a guitar being out of tune (on a professional release). What’s important is having a decent guitar that’s properly set up, intonated, and doesn’t fall out of tune every five seconds. If you’re having tuning issues or can’t seem to get the intonation right yourself, take your guitar to the shop and have a professional look at it. Pay them whatever they ask lol it’s worth it.
@MichaelSheaAudio6 ай бұрын
@@YeahButStilll Can confirm, a pro setup is a must. Found a local guy who had been a luthier for a very long time, he was basically the only one left in the area. My guitars don't look like much but they play amazing. Even cheap imports can become serious players. My 15 year old Schecter Omen 6 is probably the best feeling guitar I've ever played.
@remochiun2666 ай бұрын
@@YeahButStilll Being silly here but Mutt Lange did shit like that on parts of Def Leppard's stuff. Recording chords one string at a time even lol
@robertjones95986 ай бұрын
Cheers for this. I didn’t know the pros went to this extent but it makes sense, especially when you want that perfect power chord to hit bang on. Is Melodyne able to separate transients from sustains? Or would you need something like Split-EQ?
@mylespetruskavich15536 ай бұрын
A great example of this is Pete Thorn's video on Eddie Van Halen tuning one of his strings slightly sharp or flat (can't recall which) specifically for the chords in the main intro/chorus riff of Runnin with the Devil
@jordanliubenov6 ай бұрын
Thank you Joe 🙏🍞
@dtrmnts6 ай бұрын
I think this tuning to the part is less important than having all the instruments be in tune with each other. Some riffs are so dynamic you would be retuning and punching in all day long for a single riff.
@GetGoodDrums6 ай бұрын
True, but this starts to fall apart when introducing synths or tuned vocals!
@Schpacky6 ай бұрын
Brilliant Joe thanks for this!
@buzzledoll5 ай бұрын
Congrats a lot of KZbin appear after yours to explain your tuning point. What a shame. Nice, GGD definitely best advices and tuto channel
@jeremyroberthickey6 ай бұрын
I haven't actually measured this, but do you find string gauge makes a difference when it comes to this particular issue? I choose heavier gauges (nothing crazy) for several reasons, but one reason is that I find tuning more consistent, at least for how I play.
@vladimirbrezgunov6 ай бұрын
For those who says that on Evertune you can't bend - here is my approach. Get to the edge of the zone 3 where the pushing the string will change the note. On any fret hold the string very light, play a note and start to push the string hard. Tune your guitar until the pushing will stop affecting the note. Here you go, the sweet spot. At this moment you will be able to do bends and vibratos and will stay in tune due to regular playing. I find it's way better to understand than - go to zone 3 then little bit back to 2...
@Whizzinby7776 ай бұрын
I’ve always taken the approach that if I’m tuning all my guitars and bass in the same way (sustained note) then it all sort of evens out in a unified way. But I have on a few occasions tuned for a specific part where maybe a guitars intonation wasn’t perfect and it was audibly noticeable higher up the neck.
@GetGoodDrums6 ай бұрын
This is very true but starts to get difficult if you start adding in things like synthesisers or tuned vocals!
@YeahButStilll6 ай бұрын
I always program a midi bass before i start recording anything (even if I’m recording actual bass). I know the midi bass is in tune so as I record guitar, vocals, etc., I make sure everything is in tune with the bass. That way you know you’re good and can add any midi instruments without worry.
@aangovan6 ай бұрын
nice information btw moral of this video always check in tune, take care of your string guitar, and set up your guitar bridge saddle.
@riptideL6 ай бұрын
does an ever-tune hold the note when in chord position too so no need to tune the chord? or does it go sharp too and only hold the open note tuning?
@jeremiahculver27766 ай бұрын
If your intonation is right it should. And if you have it set so you can’t do bends, even if you bend the string it will stay perfect. When doing stuff I don’t have to utilize bends I just set it so I can’t do them so I never have to worry.
@riptideL6 ай бұрын
@@jeremiahculver2776 on the video i think the tuned chords sound way better, was going to pick up an esp 1000 deluxe with an evertune, and if the chords stay in tune its for me, how easy is it to set up to allow you to do bends? is it super fiddly to switch back and forth? Thanks for the reply!
@jeremiahculver27766 ай бұрын
It’s a tiny bit fiddly. Cause when you move within zone two it changes like 10-15cents. But it’s a matter of getting the zone position tweaked, fine tweaking with evertune key, and you’re good. Right where it was in the other zone positioning cause the intonation should remain the same.
@joeyvpoisonfree6 ай бұрын
I cannot be bothered to do this, I got an Evertune in 2018 and I never went back
@MintMunch6 ай бұрын
Guitar from '06 with a Floyd Rose tremolo system... It's so over...
@Jaymetal956 ай бұрын
*Laughs in evertune bridge*
@KaiDown6 ай бұрын
I’m almost annoyed that the chord-by-chord tuning sounds a lot better.. because I KNOW I won’t be doing that
@ferri03536 ай бұрын
That’s why i have an evertune
@doum6 ай бұрын
Go see your tuner evertune don't get rid of all that problem i got one and even if im in tune with a 7 string ou 8 string the lower note suffer from that too with evertune. Yes its less but not 0
@cassio_zambotto6 ай бұрын
First of all, this phenomenon happens a lot more to down tuned metal stuff, evertune is the ultimate solution. But let me tell you, never do this to bluesy or raw stuff, it will destroy the record. The main tip here in this video is not exactly "tune for the part", it is: learn to listen to pitch and tuning relationships in your orchestrations. What I always do is to set the guitar tuning, then set everything else around it. The bass almost always ends up a little flat in the lowest string, the synths sometimes a little sharp and vocals tuned to the part if desired.
@BasketballHellMember6 ай бұрын
At this point why not just switch to keytar, or better yet, a keytar laid on its back that you can put on a stand or a desk... sort of like a digital piano or synth? Trying to artificially take away all of the imperfections inherit to these instruments defeats the purpose of us imperfect humans playing the instruments in the first place. I can see the merit for things like modern pop music where in most cases the guitar is not featured, and is merely used as an accompanying instrument to an otherwise orchestra of digital instruments and tools, but in any guitar-centered production, just let the imperfections be. Those imperfections make things better musically, not less.
@maxalaintwo35786 ай бұрын
You say that, but when guitars with variable tunings clash with vocals that are autotuned and synths that are equal temperament, it sounds like a mess. You compose for the ideal end product, we already edit guitars and drums to death so that they’re perfectly in time. Having a “natural feel” might be something one can get away with live, as the reverbs, echoes and absorptions of the space mask imperfection, but recordings don’t lie
@BasketballHellMember6 ай бұрын
@@maxalaintwo3578 You didn't fully read or didn't fully comprehend what I wrote then, because I clearly stated that there was merit for this tuning process in non-guitar-centric music, where guitar was merely an accompanying instrument to an otherwise "digital orchestra", but that otherwise, (meaning guitar-centric music), I think it lacks merit for the reasons I stated above.
@maxalaintwo35786 ай бұрын
@@BasketballHellMember metal is guitar-centric music and it still needs this practice. I know exactly what you’re saying man, but I’m afraid I disagree
@LimitlessPotential126 ай бұрын
Jokes on you I am using a midi guitar as well!
@YeahButStilll6 ай бұрын
I’d take a slightly out of tune guitar over a perfectly tuned midi guitar every day
@LimitlessPotential126 ай бұрын
@@YeahButStilll ok
@maxalaintwo35786 ай бұрын
Lol same. One day I’ll learn guitar when I have the money to get one 😭
@LimitlessPotential126 ай бұрын
@@maxalaintwo3578 I have a guitar. I use midi because it helps me write ideas faster. We can have both real and midi, no need to compromise!
@jeremiahculver27766 ай бұрын
Punching in? No way. Lose all the tonewood bro. Don’t even tune your guitar period
@TheCookieSpice6 ай бұрын
100% invest in evertune to stop messing around with tunings
@zlodr93696 ай бұрын
Я борюсь с этой проблемой обычным автотюном(благо мелодайн аккорды тоже считывает), меньше времени тратишь, чем постоянная подстройка
@sadoromi6 ай бұрын
Блин, как ты это делаешь? Только сегодня вот попробовал кинуть автотюн первым в чейне на DI гиторки, поставил "инструмент" в типе голоса, и он криво все равно тюнит как-то. Все разы что я пробовал раньше тоже не получалось
@zlodr93696 ай бұрын
@@sadoromi а у тебя свежая версия ?
@sadoromi6 ай бұрын
@@zlodr9369 ПРОшка с 22-го, кажется. У меня всегда только чуть больше половины нормально ловит и втюнивает, остальное как-то рандомно. Это я кстати если что про сингл ноты говорю - аккорды и квинты автотюн не понимает, естественно
@GetGoodDrums6 ай бұрын
Using melodyne is definitely an option but will inevitably leave artefacts!
@danymalsound6 ай бұрын
At this point, it's no longer a performance... just record it and melodyne where necessary
@GetGoodDrums6 ай бұрын
I think it depends on your desired end result! If you're going for a more natural sound, as I stated in the video, then maybe not a good idea!
@boristubeti67766 ай бұрын
And then people will wonder why it sound so shit live. Or I’m I wrong?