The ECM Lab - The Detroit Diesel Series 60 DDEC IV ECM

Diagnostics, programming and repair for the Detroit Diesel Series 60 DDEC IV and DDEC III ECMs

[@jameskahl9546]

I have had this man fixed several ECM's of my Detroit. He makes a run better. And he has even shipped me one when I was broke down out of town. Here's a great guy good price you cannot beat it nowhere

[@cliby25]

Any info on contacting him?

[@brianhurt3801]

About time , all those connections and circuits finally someone is doing something about it ,great video prepare to get super busy

[@conantdog]

Really interesting set up and work 👍👀

[@AndresAlbertoFC]

awesome work men

[@ViralPulse313]

Great video , saving your info for the future !!!!

[@7thfloorisnomoreq790]

This works right into my saying “Fix it right the first time”

[@michaelgarner4229]

Thanks Fernando my Detroit is pulling like a yellow motor now I am loving it

[@JohnSmith-ff2qn]

Vary interesting video and glad i Ran across your channel and became a subscriber, i sent my DD5 14 L ecm out to get work Done to it for egr Delete and Really didn't know the process but had to send it back to have the VGT& turbo Delete Done on my ecm also became truck just wasn't Running Right but the technician told me i still had to install a Resister to the Wiring harness on the Boost sensor but could not understand why when i paid him to do the egr Delete but unfortunately i lost my engine after 12000 miles and got Ripped off by a different ecm tuner that told me the 1st tuner Ripped me off and charged me to Re program my ecm and when i got the ecm back my engine still did not Run Right so I got back intouch with the 1st tuner and explained the situation to him and i even sent the ecm back to the 1st tuner to check out free of charge and he told me the 2nd tuner Ripped me off because he never touched or Reprogrammed my ecm became his original tune was still in the ecm so after putting $3000 dollars into my ecm i don't no what i got going on with the ecm or if its even programmed for a egr Deleate and 600 hp tune and 2050 torque.

[@williammcgill1062]

I like this guy

[@842qwery]

Fernando from Pittsburgh Power. He is a guru when it comes to ECMs.

[@willmann30]

This is him.

[@jakeresch4332]

You should do a video on the 7.3l powerstroke injectors and the idm

[@dieselcontrolservice5120]

Thanks. DCS is new but I used to write articles for 10-4 and still do for MovinOut. If you've ever heard of a Fernando that worked for Pittsburgh Power from 2007 to 2015. Well...that's me. I prefer DDEC IV's because the EEPROMs are better, the operating systems have more features and most DDEC IVs don't have a circuit board on the bottom of the case that gets submerged if oil/fuel/water gets in. On the other hand DDEC IIIs don't have a battery to worry about. I have a lot more to say but I'll just do another video as soon as I get the hang of Adobe Premiere or Sony Vegas. So your DDEC has no comms huh? Being a 95 you originally had a DDEC III no doubt about that. Besides contaminant damage EEPROM failure is the most common problem with DDEC IIIs. The thing that's funny about your case is once EEPROM failure progresses to the point where comms go down, the truck stops running. The ECM gets "stuck in boot". Think of it like a PC that only shows you the BIOS screen but can't load windows. That said the fact that your truck is still running tells me that your ECM is not stuck in boot and likely has a comms issue. It may need a new multiplexing chip. I can't be sure without looking at it though.

[@marioatrucking]

Diesel Control Service Thanks guys. I'm going to call u tomorrow. I'm having trouble again with my ecm. I told myself if my ecm would fail. I would give u guys a call. So u can check it out. But I love my tune. Well I'll call u guys water on today. 7/ 28/2017 Thanks

[@cherryberry10155]

Fernando I have no comm. To my guages where is a good place to start already checked fuses and wiring next is ecm and ecm wire harness

[@dieselcontrolservice5120]

@@MrManzanaresable You're probably not aware but you're comment is making more work for me and believe me I've already got plenty. The off brand batteries I find in some of these "remanufactured" DDEC IVs are not designed for the vibration and thermal extremes that the original batteries are. They're also not 3.6 volts.

[@peterwall2373]

Where you guys located

[@mikeskidmore6754]

My 1955 Murphy Disels is a real fuel sipper all mechanisal my 3208 Cat is easy on fuel too .. I have IH DT-466 DT-414 DT-360 too .. longing for the Good ole Days .. My 400 Cummins likes fuel 903 V-8 Cummins 350 HP Governed at 2600 RPM's likes fuel too .. Detroit Disel 8-V-92 does pretty well on fuel but I work off road so I don't know it's MPG.. Now getting into OTR Trucking and I know I will need a mordern Electronic controlled engine that does not suck too much fuell

[@marioatrucking]

wow this is awesome . I have never heard of u guys till I picked up a 10 4 magazine for the first time jan 2016 pg 32. so it caught my attention. so what's better? ddec3 or ddec4 I have a 95 kenworth t600 with a 370/430 hp 12.7 with a super 10 trans and 390 rears . (maybe put 410s later on) I want to have like 550 hp or 600 I know that my ecm is not communicating . I took it to a couple of local shops in Houston and they used that data plug. and they said "it's not communicating . it's not holding any memory. cpu is bad. don't know how it's running. get a new one" so I came across this and it's awesome . any help will be great. thanks Fernando

[@dieselcontrolservice5120]

I could have sworn I replied to this post already but for a 95 I'd stick with a DDEC III. I can fix that problem with the DDEC IIIs

[@yaniellmartin4933]

Supper fine

[@alexbill2746]

i have detroit 2008, 60s 14l ddec6, 10 sift automatic transmation. i canceled dpf, egr and turbo’s vgt. i put old style 171702 BorgWarner Turbocharger. i am filing a little bit lost power. must i get new tuning? if necessary is how much money will be cost ? thank you

[@verajavi12]

What about troubleshooting magnetic and piezo injectors.are they as reliable as hui type?

[@sertoduma4381]

I want to ask what's the problem, i changed the ECM detroit series 60 marine it only lives for 30 seconds and imediately stops TKS.

[@sparten1114]

I have a Detroit 6v92 with ddec 2 it recently started dropping all 3 left side injectors and the left side pyro will quite then I would hit a bump and it would start working again so maybe a loose connection how much to test my email or is it ddec? How long will it take to get back? Seeing as this is in a bus conversion where would you think it is mounted? I think it is located on the top of the engine?any thoughts?

[@dieselcontrolservice5120]

So far every DDEC II I've repaired has been a job I lost money on. I do too many of those and I'll be out of business. Until I can find a more efficient way to repair these I suggest converting to DDEC IV.

[@davidmmerenini1475]

Good morning sir, what will cause engine with DCM not to fire ?

[@terrysanders907]

Have 2001 freightliner with 12.7 brand new motor, old Ecm went out. Now have stock ecm on. Looking to turn up to make better performance.

[@dieselcontrolservice5120]

6067BK60 or 6067MK60?

[@willmann30]

@@dieselcontrolservice5120 I have 6067MK60 Factory Rebuild. I'm set at 470hp/1550tq. I would like 550hp/1750tq and a new battery for safe measures. Also want 78 pulse on injectors. Is this something you are willing to do?

[@willmann30]

​@@dieselcontrolservice5120no reply.

[@mythril4]

I have a 3406E CAT from year 2000. It has a fan that does not want to turn on with or without manual override on. long story short, everything has been replaced down to the entire wiring harness for all of the fan circuit. The ECM will run the fan as it should but only is test mode. Once placed back into normal operation, it fails to operate. Any ideas for that?

[@dieselcontrolservice5120]

If you unplug the 2 pin fan solenoid connector does the fan clutch engage or release?

[@dieselcontrolservice5120]

You should plug into it and see what that 70 pin is seeing for temps. Fan clutch engagement temperature is high

[@peterdrent8485]

Hello, the programing we have came from detroit diesel we have friends the worked in the research and development department in the factory we have the actual factory software we asked them the same questions and they were not sure the ecms are programed for high rpm but will only go to about 2600 rpm

[@dieselcontrolservice5120]

and yet here we are...

[@davidflemming6960]

Diesel Control Service ok 10-4

[@PaulCTownsend]

We have a 1997 Detroit 60 series it has been in framed 2 times trying to correct white smoke on startup. You can idle the engine until the cows come home and it still has white smoke. Run the truck down the road light load and the smoke clears up. That is the only drivability complaint we have. It has had all the hard parts thrown at it you can imagine but still has that problem. To me it seems like the ECM thinks its at sea level but its at 3500 ft. We could use some help

[@dieselcontrolservice5120]

Did you check the return line for foam? Also what are you seeing for fuel pressure at idle? Things get tricky with timing and cams once you get into 1998 but sometimes 1998 programs find there way into 1997 Series 60s

[@rolandtamaccio3285]

,,, is this the compression ratio problem ?

[@mikemike0417]

Can I change the horsepower on ddec15

[@acv2634]

Trying to establish CAN network between Woodward Easygen 3500XT and DDEC 4. Please help

[@mikeskidmore6754]

The fact that I went to ITT Eletronics School in 1983.. I think was a bit too early for the Automotive Industry ..

[@_supastarcoley]

Where are you guys located?

[@Bigola]

After rebuild on series 60 am getting 4mpg. But before rebuild am getting 6.5mpg. What do you think is the problem. And also the truck shift gear in 2000 rpm..

[@dieselcontrolservice5120]

I wouldn't take diagnostic advice from anyone who claims to know what the cause of your low fuel mileage is after reading your 26 word message. After the rings seat mileage should come up some. Did they send you low NOx pistons?

[@Bigola]

@@dieselcontrolservice5120 no

[@JFW1]

Can you uptune one? We bought an old freight truck from 90s with series 60. The freight companies got it where it wont run past 60 mph

[@dieselcontrolservice5120]

You want to turn off a 60mph limiter? I can take care of that.

[@JFW1]

Diesel Control Service awesome.

[@amarjyotisaikia857]

Hello We have a series 60 D4 DD engine with two throttle controls(accelerator paddle and operation panel tc), m having problem with accelerator paddle throttling (unable to drive anywhere), also operational throttle is still working we could carry out our operations smoothly. How could we resolve this, we tried changing acc paddle??

[@dieselcontrolservice5120]

If the TPS is new test the wires that connect the throttle to the DDEC. Visual inspections of the wiring harness won't find wires with ripped strands under the wire jacket. continuity tests find bad wires

[@chrischillin6085]

How long does it take after you receive it does it take to get it back?

[@dieselcontrolservice5120]

That depends on what you want done to your ECM, how much work that will take and how busy I am.

[@sifarcher]

Can I send you our ecm for testing and repair it?

[@nadgilsonricardo134]

Eu estou com problem no sensor do acelerador do motor detroit serie 60 ddecc 4 . fica as vezes cortando a aceleraçao . nao e toda. Vez !!! Sensor fica localizado na parte esquerda do motor proximo da admissao do motor . ele fica ligado a um regulador de ar . me ajude por favor

[@marceloevera2009]

tenta em ingles da proxima

[@bouchrarehich1513]

hi, i have a problem with shifting, i have a smart shift detroit engin,problem shifting from 6 to 7,we wanted to update the computer ,stays all the time on neutral,then wont start,can you help me resolve the issue ,please

[@dieselcontrolservice5120]

I'd suggest checking the datalink connection. Also verifying that the transmission controller has a good read on it's input shaft and tail shaft sensors. Sometimes the X-Y Shifter is failing.

[@regeneregala2824]

Sir have a good day..,sir what kind of scan tools to compatible this truck. DETROIT 60 SERIES 1998 MODEL.

[@dieselcontrolservice5120]

Anything that reads J1708

[@vjm6238]

Hi ! I just found you on KZbin now, hope you’re still here, let me know please I need your help. Thank you.Vj

[@gckuisch]

Do you still fix ddec III ecm? I have a nonvolatile memory data incorrect fault code. Do you want me to send my ecm? Looking forward to hear from you.

[@dieselcontrolservice5120]

As long as there's no physical damage I fix those for $500 plus whatever the return shipping is.

[@Taughtsee]

DDEC III 60 Series: No cruise control, oil pressure and coolant sensor lights come on intermittently. I've done all obvious tests. ECM is recognizing engine speed, all switches, oil pressure and coolant temp. I switched out the Kysor warning light display, the EDM and both sensors to no avail. I have a fault code 53 and a couple others involving nonvolatile memory. I have gone right down to the ECM but I have no way of truly knowing what the issue is without testing the ECM somehow. What would your next step be in determining if the ECM is the problem?

[@dieselcontrolservice5120]

I'd put it in my test bench and see if I'm seeing the same thing on my dashboard. If I did I'd open up the case and go from there.

[@Gcal1956]

Well ....? How do we get ahold of u???

[@dieselcontrolservice5120]

[e-mail]

[@TheRoadhammer379]

This amazing invention called Google. Are people actually this lazy?

[@peterdrent8485]

Hello, I program detroit ddec 3,4,5 and some of the ddec3 ecm I can get the engine to run 4000 rpm and others will not even if they are the same part number and software level what is the difference? these are for competition only.

[@dieselcontrolservice5120]

I really don't know how to put this nicely...Let me just say this...The Series 60 DDECIII 4000 rpm program has been around for almost 20 years and the guy who made it was a former DMR employee and never made a version of it that runs on DDEC IVs because he retired before the DDEC IVs came out. His program among many others got on the internet and is now downloaded by Detroit "programmers" who know little more about programming then how to click the "Program ECM" tab from their library of stolen work and hold out their hand to get paid. I've made my own version that turns well over 5000 rpm, produces over 120 degrees of injector pulsewidth, has three switchable stages, runs on DDEC IV hardware and any software version I want. (See my video's intro) I even demonstrated the program on my mobile test bench at the 2016 Mid America Trucking show. I have the only copy, it's dangerous and will never be used on a live engine. If you commit yourself to truly understanding how this technology works you'll find the DDEC part number and software versions don't matter anymore.

[@melken4607]

hello..i have 1991 detroit S60 400hp..i dont know what ddec it is how to identify the ddec number?thanks for your rply. my engine problem is lowpower.

[@dieselcontrolservice5120]

6067GU60 DDEC II. I'm not servicing any DDEC II ecms at this time.

[@timhill3534]

@@dieselcontrolservice5120 SAME PROBLEM HERE 1999 FREIGHTLINER FLD 120 .. ONLY CAN SEE O6RO AN NOTHING ELSE ... SO WHERE CAN I GET TRUCK SERIES # 2 PROGRAM ECM ??

[@mjbalderas70]

Can you rebuild 2012 Freightliner DD15 ECM?

[@eloygarcia966]

Either I got a 12.7 Detroit 60 and is heaven issues that backfired I change all injectors wire her in it and Anna still can’t figure it out how can I get a hold of you

[@piyushkumarsurti4245]

Pls send me ecm internal diagram if u have(Detroit 60 series diesel engine)

[@siminialayiubani9925]

please let me have your contact so that i can send my ECM for repairs. from nigeria

[@bobbywilliams5881]

I have a 2005 14Lt sitting in a 2004 Frightliner that use to run a 12.7. I would love to have 500hp and 1800lds of torque. Is that possible? Looking for more pulling power.

[@kman9448]

Bobby Williams Me too. I have a 1998 freightliner 12.7. 500 + please and 7 mph?

[@vkmslav]

Hey I’m looking to get my ddec 5 ecm tuned

[@dieselcontrolservice5120]

I'm not offering any programming or hardware work for the DDEC V at this time

[@peterdrent8485]

Hello, I have 2 ecm that will run over 4000 rpm. they are only used for competition pulling and racing and never on highway maybe you can call me if that is ok.

[@vincentjarvey635]

So you can not check any DDEC 2 ECM? I've been told a waste of time. I should just update to ddec 4 ecm but costs too much money for me.

[@dieselcontrolservice5120]

I could check it out but if I want to stay in business I also need to make money. To make money I need to make repairs and for repairs I need good parts. Try finding good parts for a 30 year old computer. Parts suppliers just aren't interested in making those parts anymore unless you throw $150,000 at them. If you feel your DDEC II series 60 isn't worth the time and investment of doing a DDEC IV conversion then you should look at getting rid of it.

[@martinsantillan2538]

What about dd15 engines??

[@dieselcontrolservice5120]

I am unable to test or service DD15 MCMs or CPCs at this time.

[@peterdrent8485]

imagine that

[@charlieabbot3649]

Can you up the HP and Torque on a 2006 DDEC 5 Series 60? Stock engine, no deletes

[@dieselcontrolservice5120]

Not at this time

[@dennism103]

I'm getting ready to buy a new ecm for my 98 kw t600 12.7 detroit

[@dieselcontrolservice5120]

If your Series 60 is an early 98 it could have DDEC III controls, otherwise the 23519307 DDEC IVs are hard to find these days. I've been sold out for months.

[@theshahriya4809]

good lack,, good technology,,

[@starsstripes990]

Hello I got a 12.7 60 series it's missing at 1600 rpm not sure if it is the ecm thanks

[@rickfranck9111]

I have the same problem. Did you find out the problem?

[@starsstripes990]

@@rickfranck9111 yes I did it was my evil family members put plastic in my fuel tank and block the brand new. Splitter I had put on the truck to level the fuel in each tank it took me awhile to figure it out after replacing it with a new one while separating the male fittings from it I discovered the plastics in it put the new one on and a set of fuel tank covers with locks the truck runs fine no more problems the plastics was blocking the fuel starving the truck from getting fuel hope this help best of luck to you

[@rickfranck9111]

Mine throws a code . Check engine light comes on. Says it's low voltage on throttle sensor replaced it still same problem.

[@kimberlygreen5153]

can anyone tell me what this code is 128s214-01 on a60 series Detroit 430 help please somebody anybody.thx.

[@dieselcontrolservice5120]

I'm not finding an exact match to that code and it may be passing through an OEM side chassis controller. s214-01 could relate to SID 214 FMI 1 which is triggered by low internal ecm battery voltage. If the DDEC is more than 10 years old there is a good chance the battery in the DDEC could have low voltage.

[@hprider01]

What's the cost Of A Tune UP To EMC of a 2006 Freightliner colombia?

[@dieselcontrolservice5120]

The DDEC Vs that are on those don't usually have the contamination issues that older and newer (DDECVIs) have. Your internal battery might be getting low but I don't like changing them on a DDEC V unless RTC voltage is less than half a volt or you need to make a write to memory. If your talking about programming...well...in 2010 I was very proud of the work I had done with the DDEC V. In 2013 things changed and since then I can no longer do the kind of DDEC V programming everyone has grown to want. I can improve your horsepower with your current setup but I can't delete anything.

[@LoTso_The_HuggingBear]

What type of degree is required to repair and work with the ECMS specifically. I've currently been working in the field for 5 years .

[@dieselcontrolservice5120]

The degree I have hasn't been as useful as my experience and experience isn't half as useful as having real passion for this sort of work. If you've got the passion and put the time in rest will come regardless of what kind of degree or former trailing you have.

[@singhharman3023]

I have 60 series 1999 peterbrilt with motor fully redone but some time on the it produce unwant power which i dont need on the plain road but not always, turbo boost to full force and the speed guage will dance from 110 km to back 90 km only does when the speed guage is not stable i have changed speed sensor can you help i will pay for ur service

[@dieselcontrolservice5120]

Try unplugging the transmission tailshaft sensor. If after you unplug the sensor the problem gets worse then get someone to disable your vehicle speed limiter. If your problem goes away then you need to run some fresh wires between the DDEC and the tailshaft sensor. If not get progressive shift disabled.

[@gabyarguellescolorado9622]

Lokiero en español

[@henrybarthelemy3406]

Leave your info

[@balanthsbarkas118]

Hello can I gain fuel economy and increase horsepower and torque

[@peterdrent8485]

as far as 5000 rpm being dangerous NTPA super semies run up to 6500 rpm. I had a 8v92 running 5200 rpm that i ran for a few years.

[@dieselcontrolservice5120]

Have fun with all that, and best of luck

[@haulingfuel4759]

I wouldn’t want to be around a Detroit doing 5000rpm. 🧨💣💥💥🧯🚒

[@andyvaldez7714]

Where are you guys located?

[@dieselcontrolservice5120]

Just north of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania

[@siminialayiubani9925]

please let me have your contact so that i can send my ECM for repairs. from nigeria