The Economic Decline of Catalonia

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[@Tini_Scrapitti]

And now tourism in Barcelona is being threatened by its own citizens...

[@alexandrejuve1305]

By a loud minority that has lost a-lot in the last elections and now they have to create a new story. It’s extreme left modus operandi.

[@MrCarlinios]

Don't you forget about Canarias and Baleares. Tourism is even more infamous there

[@thenomadcode]

I agree that the way the citizens here in Barcelona are spraying tourists and acted with them on the latest protests is bad. That been said, tourism is actually a problem here. A working couple living here can't afford to have their own flat, even a 1 bedroom. They have to share a flat with others. All this due to rent increase because renting to tourists is more profitable. Some districts became tourist disneyland and don't belong to the citizens anymore. I was leaving nearby the Sagrada Familia before, during Covid that was perfect, but after the pandemic my wife and I decided to move away because of the tourists. Impossible to walk on the street, or even to access our builg because groups of zombie tourists, listening to their guides with headphones, not even caring about you. Impossible to sleep because of drunk people shouting at 3 in the morning, or the AirBNB rooftop in front throwing a party like a night club until 6 in the morning. People living here don't go to the beach, we can't there is no more space to put a towel on the sand. I can't take the metro with my daughter in the stroller, because it is packed with tourists with backpacks and suitcases. Population of Barcelona 1.6M, 32M tourists every year. Plus toursits behave differently. When you go to visit london, you have a picture in front of big bed, you go grab a fish and ships and some beer at the pub.... here in Barcelona, tourists behave like it is burning man festival. They are drunk in plain day, pee in the street or in the metro, act like they own the city, not even making the effort to put a Tshirt on. I agree that tourist bring some money to some business here, restaurants, hotels, etc... AirBNB owners are mostly foreigners investors because no one can afford buying a flat here, again due to tourism price presure so not a lot of locals see the benefits of it. I think that tourist activity should be regulated. I am not against tourism. But when you can't live in the city because of it, it becomes a problem.

[@Khalimdorr]

@@thenomadcode Time for the police to issue fines to all those that can’t behave and break the laws. That being said, what did catalonians expect when they opened that huge airport in Barcelona

[@MartinesGuziczek]

*No man is too rich til you leave the earth you leave with nothing*

[@RoarxBottomly]

well at least the rich achieved something in life before that person dies. his kids will probably inherit the fortunes and pass on to the next generation. cycle of life.

[@BeresDrager]

true.but.i.wont.die.poor

[@StefanyCorral]

We live in this earth, we gotta play our part...He's living life while he is still alive...

[@FegaroScheu]

If you are not in the financial market space right now, you are making a huge mistake. I understand that it could be due to ignorance, but if you want to make your money work for you...prevent inflation

[@PickeringDeets]

​@@FegaroScheuInteresting, This is superb! Information, as a noob it gets quite difficult to handle all of this and staying informed is a major cause, how do you go about this are you a pro Investor?

[@otsoko66]

This is interesting as a Montrealer -- almost everything you describe about Catalunya happened in Quebec starting in the late 70s and accelerating in the 1980s. Canada-wide companies moved to Toronto, and almost all new businesses with a Canada-wide vision set up in Toronto, Alberta or Vancouver. Every industry that was centered in Montreal in 1980 is now centered in Toronto. OTOH, it also means that our housing prices are more reasonable than Toronto or Vancouver since there is little population growth.

[@Kaif08610]

This is exactly what I thought of as well. Great pt.

[@marcosjavieralemangarcia8859]

i would agree in almost everything but the housing price is similar between Madrid and Barcelona....currently.

[@Plasmax-jp6pm]

I keep trying to get my construction company to go to Quebec. They don't want too. Wayyy too much government and bureaucrats

[@chinesesparrows]

No population growth while people age and pass away means it's a declining place with a harsh future unless they innovate alot which I don't see happening due to the bureaucracy

[@Plasmax-jp6pm]

@@chinesesparrows Iunoo Quebecers still have kids compared to the rest of Canada from my experience.

[@PyWPS]

This has been a very, very interesting video. Already alot of people pointed the fact that Catalonia was seriously affect by globalization and industry outsourcing. In Portugal we notice that if an important international company wants to deal with Iberia and South America at the same time, they prefer Madrid (for its central Iberian position???) and then they also hire some staff from Portugal for support with Portuguese/English language. Sincerely I would prefer to live in Madrid than in Barcelona, love Barcelona but Madrid fells more relaxed and more easy going.

[@alexandrejuve1305]

I think that is missing that Catalonia was an industrial center since de XIX century and with the coming of globalization and factories going to China it became the rustbelt of Spain. In this regard Barcelona has fear better than Detroit.

[@WolfgangBrehm]

Catalonlia has the right to self determination as we all do. They have the right to run their economy into the ground.

[@edgarrivasrodriguez6524]

Great video! Could you please do one about Québec and Canada?

[@BillHimmel]

Super interesting! Thx for the upload!❤

[@iamscottish5826]

I think Barcelona going down has been a policy by the central givernment since they organized a referendum. I read of pressure for companies to leave Catalonia to Alicante or madrid. The government now makes a lot of companies have double HQ in madrid too. The want the capital like London or Paris, where the capital is disproportionately richer than the rest of country. The rest are now dependent on the capital. I saw another news of the central government cancelling a direct flight from Barcelona to Tokyo but they will be in favour of madrid. They want madrid airport to be number 1 in Pain and i have read of plans to expand it from a national budget, not regional budget like the rest of madrid. So i will say its a delibrate choice by people with political power based in madrid. I have read how Birmingham in the UK stopped and its usually by decision makers in the capital because they can direct resources. Birmingham's economic growth was stalled to favour investment in the north of England and that was done in no other place than the capital london. You can read about them. A city doesn't resist Factories and offices spaces without polical intervention from the capital.

[@abdulremane5557]

Great video.

[@brunoborce8951]

It's not just Barcelona or Catalonia, nor even Spain; it's about the entire Europe and the US facing challenges. Globalization has shifted middle-class factory jobs to Asia and elsewhere, leaving only landlords and CEOs at the top of the pyramid, accumulating wealth while draining it from middle-class people. They invest increasingly in education, yet technology's rapid advancement adds debt and family pressure, reducing birth rates. Simply having a bachelor's degree no longer guarantees upward mobility; it's a myth. The current capitalist system's wealth distribution favors the rich, exacerbating inequalities as China, and increasingly, high-tech products dominate global markets. This intensifies competition, especially in Europe's heavily reliant automobile industry. India will join this competition in the coming decades. We're entering a late-stage capitalist debt crisis, where only redistributive policies and protectionism in local industries can slow inevitable damage. The AI hype further threatens job security. Capitalism's globalist tech-centric approach may prove ineffective as developing countries integrate, intensifying competition. Despite abundant productivity worldwide, human greed persists, rendering money seemingly pointless. This condition is a consequence of our nature; little can be done to change it until pepole can t bare it anymore and as history has show us man times, it ends in unecesary violent Revolution that sometimes lead to utopical idealism that can be dangerous...

[@alexandrejuve1305]

You are right in many things about globalization but the real problem is that in many places in the west there is no more capitalism the state rules more than 50% of the economy, and that can’t be considered capitalism but socialism the problem is is socialism that is creating cast that is eating every thing productive.

[@EskiZagra]

Catalonia seems like a micro-cosm of isolationism, nationalization and protectionism while expecting the money to roll in...

[@HashimyHuseini]

​@@LowenKM Another exception: They are far leftists

[@PunkSinAutor]

If its seems like that to you is because you live in other world.

[@andydondy6444]

They kicking out tourist too 😅😅😅

[@alejandrofilloyrius4694]

As a non-nationalist catalan (born in Bacelona and with catalan as my mother tonge) I always saw things as expressed the point made from 11:45 onward , I am happy to see it is expert-backed. It is indeed a deeply classist society that hides itself under a mantle of cosmopolitism. The raise of independentism is just the last move of the dominating class to make sure they stay on top, and if it has to be at the cost of kicking us to the bottom of Europe, so be it.

[@JordanHammond7]

As a foreigner who has witnessed the independence movement here for the past 12 years, it's been depressing to see families torn apart, businesses leave and a general division among the population rise. Populism politics poisoning the minds of a population with fictions of nirvana, if only self-rule could be self-declared. As you mention, the 100 families that control the region would no doubt lead far greater wealth divide through the plundering of the state's coffers. Lower taxes, less hate of other Spaniards, and a more open culture will be the things that will turn this place around.

[@alexandrejuve1305]

I’m Catalan and that is right, it’s really sad and what is said in this video too but it’s a lot more for both sides.

[@ptamog]

The hate issue has grown both sides, feed by populist politicians

[@Gewehr_3]

Of course, it's very fun being a guiri here in Barcelona. I moved here because of family, but I get caught in the middle of this just by existing. Sorry I learned Spanish over Catalan first, jobs here and nationality require Spanish. Also people assume I'm a tourist just by the way I look so I get nasty looks and sometimes comments even when I am just trying to go to work. I can't wait to leave this country, I only regret not trying to live in Madrid because it is a far, far better place with kinder people.

[@alexandrejuve1305]

@@Gewehr_3I’m sorry, the left in our country is getting too toxic, anything that is not a match to their ideology is a threat to them, it’s destroying us. Hope you can reconsider you leaving, I’m sure that the majority is happy with you living with us. Where I live every day are more and more foreigners with families and is really refreshing, but I live in the least left neighborhood in Barcelona. Have a nice day.

[@alexandrejuve1305]

@@Gewehr_3 I'm sorry to hear that, the left is incredibly toxic in our region hope you can rethink you leaving and stay with us, in my neighbourhood is the most right wing in Barcelona and things are really different, come here that every day more families are coming here.

[@navajyotichetia8968]

0:38 say-at you said it great man!

[@GabbyMcGabberson]

Thank you!

[@ycplum7062]

Counter-productive infighting has destroyed nations so hampering the economic development of a region is not unexpected.

[@masonm600]

Hm... do I show this to the Catalans I just met traveling NY?

[@robertofernandez7773]

Don't. Lol. They're truly in denial for the most part. So sad to see the most prosperous region go down at such alarming rate. I'm from a rural region in Spain and we used to look at Catalunya as the region we wanted to become. Now they're the pariah of the country. Truly devastating. I live in the US now and it is similar to what California is going trough. California being like Catalunya and Texas being like madrid. They both, Catalunya and California, need to get their shit together and it starts by getting rid of their current leaders. Stay away from the far left, they are economy destroyers. Don't listen? It's OK, but accept the inevitable, total economic havoc. Don't cry later when it is too late.

[@CatSounds-u9f]

@@robertofernandez7773 Never thought of that but the parallels between California and Catalonia are huge, from climate to economy, to taxes, to left wing politicians, to crime

[@LowenKM]

Interesting stuff... thx! BTW, what is it about countries with Spanish cultures that so many of 'em seem to have such 'dysfunctional' politics and economies?

[@artemk8639]

Haven't seen second guy for a while(... i wonder what happened?

[@betweenprojects]

Great vid.

[@arnautorrasraya4014]

12:09 "People descended from Catalan culture tend to marry disproportionately other people of Catalan culture" Oh, you mean like people descended from every other culture?

[@doujinflip]

The picky exclusiveness is markedly stronger.

[@graham1034]

I took that line to mean when compared to other similar cultures

[@ptamog]

With less polarisation, mixing families would be much more convenient

[@Equilibrium-Manifesto]

Doesn’t the word “disproportionately” inherently, mathematically, imply a comparative differential

[@arnautorrasraya4014]

​@@Equilibrium-Manifesto It's very clear what he says. And what's more insane is the conclusion he makes right afterwards: "So much so that it is common knowledge that 100 families of Catalan origin control the city of Barcelona" Apparently, the reason why first and second generation immigrants fleeing from poverty do not reach a city's elite class in 60 years is because Catalans (as a whole) "disproportionately marry other Catalans". The flagrant bias in this video is baffling to me.

[@felixestevez8458]

You nailed it. It hasn’t always been like that, but since the last few years a Spaniard looking to start a career will more likely move to Madrid than Barcelona. In Madrid they make you feel as a local from day one. In Barcelona you will be feeling that you don’t belong. It wasn’t always like that (look at the times of the Olympic Games), but since a few years back the atmosphere is really toxic there . Companies understand that, and prefer to invest in Madrid. Same thing is happening in the Basque Country autonomous region, with now little “Spaniards” willing to move there (as opposed to the old times, when they were attracting lots of talented and hard working Spaniards).

[@thecounterpoint9125]

Not to mention the stuburmess of speaking catalan e en eith spanish speaker. At school catalan is mandatory not representing the real situation of society which is almost 50% Spanish speaking . This policy affects pupils that are from other countries diminishing their performance while be forced to assist classes in a language totally imposed

[@mbathroom1]

what happened to grant?

[@kalifatokata]

I got mugged in Barcelona the last 3 times I visited, no more for me.

[@thecomment9489]

The only Olympics held in Spain were in the secessionist region of Catalonia. The only Olympics held in Canada were in the secessionist province of Quebec.

[@rafaelwanderlust3783]

In Catalonia and Barcelona, the regional and local governments have been unstable for years. And it looks like they will keep unstable for years to come. In this region, the only thing that all parties agree is raising regional / local taxes and more interventionist policies. It is becoming a tax hell.

[@potatioo]

This video is the perfect example of using statistics to lie... Taking data to the specific year to match your thesis, Puting things out of context, not talking about investment execution...

[@noahflare6825]

Corruption is the problem really

[@micaeloliveira2727]

Catalonia asked for independence 😂😂 now Spain is decentralizing their investments.

[@roux8671]

Very interesting video to get an outsider's perspective. Apart from many companies and foreign investment stopping because of the whole independence movement, the Barcelona-Madrid relationship has always been kind of hostile (notice I said Madrid, not the rest of Spain). As an example, my uncle used to work in the marketing branch of one of the main TV stations in the country, and one day they received a call from HQ in Madrid saying they needed to fire 40% of their staff because the personnel costs were too high. My uncle responded that the offices in Barcelona were managing X% of the clients in that company (can't recall the exact number but it was around 80% more than the clients that were being managed in Madrid) so if anyone had to fire staff it should be them. Their response? "Well we'll just take more than half of your clients and we'll be managing them from now on. So again, since you're now generating less money than the Madrid office, we please ask you to fire 40% of your staff". The same thing kind of happened with both airports when Barcelona's was the one with more affluence, and AENA redirected a lot of flights to Madrid. There is also the popular belief all around Spain that in Madrid they can "bend the law" to cater to foreign deals, while the other communities cannot (just look at the "Mbappe Law" as an example!). To make it as short as possible, the roads and rails division is due to the fact that when Catalonia needed roads and railroads because of the industrial revolution, most of Spain didn't need them since they weren't at that stage yet, so the government said if you want them you'll have to build them. Illegal immigration is also a factor in higher crime and the region feeling way unsafer than before, but I would say the main problem is one of mentality. In the past, Catalans would just wake up and get to work, not caring about wether we were the best or not. When the independence movement started, one of the main arguments repeated by the politicians went along the line of "we're better than the rest, we're in fact the best, we don't need Spain" and once people started believing they were the best, our hard-working mentality kind of died down. "Since we're the best, why put more effort if Spain is gonna steal from us anyway?" And these many factors all together are sinking our nation. TLDR: We're kinda fucked here but hey at least we'll always have siesta. Sorry for the long text!

[@vladibarrosa6206]

The „Mershians“? I suppose, he means Murcia. 😂

[@letsdoitforjohnny5066]

I was in Barcelona in April and seeing signs like “immigrants yes, tourist no!” and watching Catalonian local news report “Italian government continues ant-diversity measures by intercepting Africans in the Mediterranean” told me me a lot. I’m a mixed bag of Basque/Spaniard descent and speak Spanish from the USA and the only place I didn’t feel at home was in Barcelona while the rest of Spain made me feel like I was at home.

[@egg174]

Hola amics!

[@LA90598]

Telling tourists to go home... that'll helo

[@senefelder]

2:51 Esperanza Aguirre jumpscare!

[@TheLordFrog]

Each time the AI voice appears, I can’t listen to what it says because I’m constantly thinking how much I hate AI voices.

[@carbo73]

then, at 8:43 you are completely right. We have an awful government and almost every decision it takes is idiotic, mostly more and more taxes and controls that make no sense

[@carbo73]

5:52 you are wrong, because Madrid is the capital and this has HUGE benefits.

[@visualeconomiken]

It was also the capital in the 60s and Catalonia was even better than Madrid.

[@carbo73]

@@visualeconomiken because even back then was kind of a share of power. And Madrid was nothing in the industrial sector (imagine in early XX Century), only a political power, so obviously Catalonia was better . Economy for Catalonia, politics for Madrid. But political power calls economic decision centers, specially banking and large companies, which went close to that power to have "contacts" and buy favors, so increasing this balance towards Madrid. But since the 90's there has been an effort to have EVERYTHING in Madrid (and indeed a lot of economic decision by leftist Catalan governments have been pathetic, with a HUGE NIMBY movement (now, with energetical issues specially). This is not going to end well.

[@gilberttello08]

👍👍

[@Bobsicle3]

The information provided is outdated... In the past 4 years the city has changed a lot

[@Meisio]

There is another interesting thing I've noticed: the Catalan communities are less open in learning other languages because they already learn 2 languages: Catalan and Castellano. So, learning a third language is somehow difficult. Yes, almost everyone in our 'pueblo' talks mostly in Catalan and there are little signs that this will change with the new generations.

[@enricmm85]

Catalan speakers referring to their hometown as 'pueblo'? Yeah, right. Next you want me to believe you are Catalan.

[@Meisio]

@@enricmm85 I never said I am a Catalan. I'm an expat living in a pueblo predominantly inhabited by Catalans near the city of Barcelona.

[@magdaw3123]

Barcelona? why work when you can airbnb your apartment and live in suburbia. Tourism killed the drive/need to work. People in Madrid don't enjoy this tourism $ as much as Barcelonians do.

[@T00Busy113]

Sounds like how Hong Konger burnt down their house and blame Beijing for it, metaphorical speaking

[@rosabernal3148]

Catalonia has the 16% of the population in Spain but represents de 25 % of the exportations and 30% of industry. The first region in Spain in both sectors

[@bogdandra]

Sure, awesome! So what you are saying is, Catalonia cares very much about money, and less about other problems the money grabbing are generating, like high housing prices, high living costs, focus on making money for the youth instead of rising children, and of course in your mind probably this means All catalans are rich and the wealth distribution is fair. Great thinking!

[@snackplissken8192]

Don't forget that, before these modern nation-states were gobbling up lands in Asia, Africa, and the Near East, they gobbled up their neighbors in Europe. Even if politicians cynically blame the capital for their own local mismanagement, you don't have to be a person of color to resent being ruled by distant people with a different language, history, and culture, particularly when you aren't rich. Unless the weaker economies of the EU turn around, I think we can expect growing calls for independence from various European ethnic groups. That the separation might just cause more problems than it solves will be a problem for future politicians.

[@vashonm]

The central government plays no games

[@EthMysyq]

gl on euro-2024 btw

[@brunogomes1458]

the estate is the problem of both Spain and Catakunia

[@zico739]

So, when the going gets tough, the separatists shut up. What a bunch of hacks.

[@ianstarkm]

I haven’t watched the video yet, but I will take a wild guess that the reason is that Catalonia votes for left wing politicians and Madrid votes for right wing politicians.

[@Rubricatus]

Politicians did not promote independence well. Money and self government matter, but Catalonia is a nation, and this is the most powerful argument. However, one of the main Catalans's flaws is the fear of judgement, as nationalism is a dirty word for many, even for pro-independence people. Before 2010 it was often claimed that Catalonia was a nation, but this concept gradually faded away from the speeches despite the surge of independence sentiment; probably due to the emergence of (far right) populist-nationalist movements across Europe. Most Catalans define themself as "leftist" therefore politicians found crucial not to be associated with those other nationalist movements elsewhere.

[@williambranch4283]

Strangled by Madrid for 500 years?

[@user-qt8ow7yl8i]

В этом видео говорится о спаде экономики Каталонии, Испания. В видео утверждается, что спад экономики вызван не самим стремлением к независимости, а скорее совокупностью факторов, включая: * Политическая нестабильность, вызванная движением за независимость * Рост национализма и разделения в каталонском обществе * Снижение инвестиций в Каталонию по сравнению с Мадридом * Проблемы безопасности из-за терактов * Более низкий уровень образования в Каталонии по сравнению с Мадридом В видео говорится, что эти факторы в совокупности делают Каталонию менее привлекательным местом для инвестиций и жизни для бизнеса и талантливых людей, что привело к экономическому спаду.

[@johnvif]

Yes

[@renewklear]

The blame Spain, the blame the tourists

[@kirannnnnn]

Preserving culture,traditions, languages and customs should not be seen as Nationalism point of view or Non inclusiveness. If we lose our identity of our ancestors then it's going to be the nightmare for our future generations.

[@3x157]

Agree. Culture is beautiful and should be preserve. Especially those in Spain. Everything single one is beautiful. We all come from the same seed. I got to witness the madness of 2014-2020. I left Barcelona in 2020 as opportunities where scares and the coast of living was going up. I hope the people in Madrid and Barcelona can see that we all come from the same seed.

[@eustasiocontreras8755]

I agree that protecting culture is important, but how you go about it is also important and boy do the catalans go the worst way possible short of violence to do so. Hatred, insults, lies and even violence are not the way to go.

[@santostv.]

Most spaniards are very protective of their identity and rightly so although they over do it to poc and Latin Americans unfortunately is starting to happen in my country aswell because we have a aging population they are more closed minded. But we iberians kicked the moors and jews, so it isn’t out of character for us. Our cities been turned like sl*ts into ways to please foreigners turist, with mostly English menus and non native workers doesn’t help, selling a bastardized version of our culture, Americans don’t mind it doingit with their culture but we do. We have influences and influenced every continent,we together divided the world.

[@thecomment9489]

Catalonia wants to be independent of Spain.

[@Liamduffers2]

@13:16 What language barrier divides us in Scotland?!

[@kupecxa9843]

scots? scottish gaelic?

[@Liamduffers2]

@@kupecxa9843 a tiny fraction of people speak Gaelic - mostly confined to the western isles. There is no tension or division whatsoever between those who do and don't speak it.

[@Sayitlikitiz101]

@@Liamduffers2 I've been to Scotland and tbh they do speak another language! 😉 I had to constantly ask people to repeat themselves and the worse was that they had no problem understanding me. I kept on giggling many times just listening to people having casual conversation amongst themselves. Also nothing prepared me for how much they swore. My mom is French and she was scandalized by the language of a group of school kids on a train. By the time we arrived in Inverness, she wrote a lengthy message on FB saying that Scots are even more vulgar than Australians! 🤣

[@DaniOlivan]

It feels to me that you guys decided how to view a complex subject and only bring sources of information that confirm your point of view, I think the best approach would be try to be more impartial and research both sides of the argument, and if I may, there are plenty of ways to listen for local pronunciation, just some effort avoiding butchering names will go a long way

[@welshtoro3256]

Excellent video which really does highlight the issues of Barcelona. I first visited Barcelona in 1982 which was when it was still fairly rough but far less tourists than today. My Spanish wife and I often visit Madrid as her family come from Valladolid. Madrid is a powerhouse and it's no surprise that it's the number one financial city of Southern Europe. I don't really have anything to add because I think you explained very clearly what the issues are.

[@nicbahtin4774]

looks like separatism has a cost

[@doujinflip]

It wasn't separatism, but their institutional weakness and selfish attitudes that's dragging themselves down and making separatism apparently attractive.

[@locosgcv9522]

Going ? It has been for the last 10 years 😂😂😂😂

[@finndurannothacker7194]

This is a video against Catalan independence. It is full of biases and not objective at all. Only very specific information has been shown, and the explanations are very simplified and poor. A shame.

[@CEB_80]

What about the centralist project being applied by Madrid central government since Aznar? What about the real investment in Madrid vs Catalunya?? Catalunya see year after year only around 30-40% execution from the approved budget. Madrid gets consistently 180% execution from the approved budget. So why do you think there are more taxes here in Catalunya? We need them to run our economy. Madrid doesn’t need any taxes, they get all infrastructure they need and they later apply those investments to the rest of the Spanish regions. For example, investing in Barajas airport counts as an investment for ALL Spain regions, but mostly Madrid people benefit from it. So it’s a matter of the policy the Spanish government is endorsing the last 20 years. It’s not only affecting Catalunya it’s affecting the rest of Spanish regions. If you compare all regional economies, all are being overrun by Madrid. So stop misinformating people, it’s a national project that has turned Madrid into an economic black hole…

[@luiscabrera7600]

La división no ayuda

[@BillHimmel]

Oh,please, not Catalonia! Visited Barcelona this winter, loved it!

[@michaelmayhem350]

Don't worry the world revolves around you since you went there once and don't want anything to happen to the region nothing will happen to it.

[@robertofernandez7773]

Barcelona is a terrible place. I'm glad you liked it, but unfortunately it is a shit hole to live in.

[@JordanHammond7]

@@robertofernandez7773 Feel free to leave.

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[@mrlover4310]

If Madrid invests in Catalonia then there will be a higher chance they will take independence just like the UK government doesn't invest in Scotland much so quality of life life expectancy lack off job = people want to stay with the UK the catalonian government needs to stop their corruption so people's quality of life improves then focus on Independence I hope they getting independence just like I hope Scotland gains independence but not under the Scottish National Party.

[@polbragulat8012]

Laziest reasoning possible, again showing no interest to look under the rug and just doing copycat from Madrid's newspapers discourse. Look at the budget implementation from the last 20 years where in Madrid has been of 184% and around 40% in Catalonia. Spanish government has even admited an acumulated lack of investment in Catalonia of 40k Milion €, equivalent of almost 20% of Catalan GDP. Madrid enjoys the amount of economic boost of being capital by artificially inflating the financial activity, that's why they pay more taxes, not because they are "cleverer". Look at the crony capitalism done in Madrid using public budget from the state government to streamline Ibex-35 companies's dividends. Last, catalan is not by far the language of the rich class in Catalonia, in fact the incredible majority of Barcelona elits speak since many years only spanish and are strongly supporters of spanish nationalism. Catalonia's economic problem stems from the impossibility to retain an industrial economy from the integration into EU and gobalization, especially when the state structure is clealry unwilling to provide support for such transition/adaptation.

[@davidlim5]

We don't need liar here !!!

[@hungo7720]

The autonomy of Catolonia has been worrisome for the Spanish central government as separatist movements beset the stability and economy of this region. To certain extents, the Spanish state has hindered and impeded the economy of Catalonia, incentivizing them to seek out independence.

[@maxwalker1159]

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[@JanjayTrollface]

I think an important factor missed in this report is divulging where the writer(s) of it are from.....

[@tarrinpun3798]

I have been to both Madrid and Barcelona and i can tell you that Barcelona airport is miles better than Madrid.

[@crytek111]

Barcelona is the capital of Spain same as NY is capital of USA. There is a plethora of examples

[@aldys92]

I think Barcelona is better than Madrid... but people of Madrid don't agree with that.

[@elibolton6235]

If Basque as a language dies I will cry. Protect it at all costs. Catalan I couldn’t care less about.

[@vaneriklucasan8365]

I can say the same for my own hometown Iligan City, when it comes to politics in business and business in politics. In other words, we have our own "Regressive Business Mafia"

[@marti3710]

Intersting. Either you’re ignorant of the fact or chose to neglect that relations have been poisoned by the Spanish government. A key point that you failed to notice is that while it is true that Catalonia has a remarkable freedom in ruling its local infrastructure, health and education systems, it does not have a say in what budget it will use. So deciding to invest in maintenance and further teachers and healthcare workers is pointless if Madrid decides that you’re not getting the money to pay for them. Money that, as you correctly point out, goes out of Catalonia to subsidise other regions in Spain (which I am fine with), most of which will go to Madrid. Yet another point that you got completely wrong, is that Catalan parties are pushing for the use of Catalan language exclusively in public spaces, particularly in education. This is wrong to the point of dangerous malinformation. While it is true that to occupy many public servant jobs you are required to master Catalan at a C1 level in the european language framework (which is the next thing to native speaker level, so very high), it is not true that catalan parties try to make catalan the only language in either schools or public spaces. In fact, it is perfectly possible and very common to live in Catalonia without knowing any catalan as long as you know some spanish. Indeed, Catalan society is more closed than society in Madrid, but what you fail to understand is that this difference comes from the fact that Spanish citizens can be comfortable in knowing that their language and culture are safe (yes, even in Catalonia), while catalans have over centuries learned that their language and culture is not welcome in their own country, and will be chipped away at, and removed entirely if they don’t actively support it. All in all, you raise some good points, but there are some fatal errors in your premises. However, I cannot fault you too much. From what I can see, your understanding of Spanish regional governments workings and history is rather limited. I suggest finding an expert for the next project. Whoever worked on this has considerable holes in their understanding of this topic.

[@Maybemaybexyz]

Are you sure it isn’t tourist and airbnbs ? That’s their main issue J.k 😂

[@iamnachoj]

As much as I love this city, nobody ever considered Barcelona as the "Capital" of Spain. What a wrong beginning of a video 😂 seriously giving a movie as an example of it's importance... no wonder it's in English and not many Spanish people will watch this. I agree Madrid and BCN both compete in economic terms but the economic growth of BCN has been planned centrally (by the dictatorship) in terms of investment in the past. And politically and socially BCN has never competed as capital. WRONG DATA!!! Now reply all you want to but you will be misinforming. The reason why I don't like this is because separatists of my city want to hear these wrong statements to boost their purposeless motivation to divide a land that's been old together and has many more things in common than differences.

[@bipl8989]

A victim of the the conservative's PP party's continuing unfair treatment. Why else would they change their stance and seek independence. It was the PP gov that did not make investments forcing Cat to do for themselves. You say that yourselves.

[@michaelmayhem350]

It's going down

[@aleixgalvany]

Jesus, this is one of the worst informed videos you've ever made. I wonder where the narratives you used come from.

[@aleixgalvany]

Lol, I like how you use Spanish sources as if they are neutral xD

[@carlk3989]

Such a nice video. Here you can see effects of nationalism, anti immigration and close societies. Same will happen in the rest of Europe. Inalways say see the UK for the next decade of Europe. Interestingly Catalonia is another good example. They had everyting to be better than a city in the midlle of nowhere and yet they lost it

[@mirelchirila]

oh yes, populism, false superiority and ethnocentrism are always a fun mix

[@Tini_Scrapitti]

The buck stops at the top: National Government must take responsibility.

[@ramonsole2909]

Madrid decide to compite with Paris, and London and take all invesment for them.... no other city in Spain could grow

[@alejandrorodriguez3771]

Socialism. period.

[@Dudenier]

Like I said many years ago, smaller countries will always be weaker. China would be happy with more smaller countries they can negotiate directly with

[@perfectallycromulent]

if smaller countries are so weak, why are small nations like Switzerland and Luxembourg so rich and not conquered by their much more powerful neighbors? Switzerland has a GDP almost 4 times that of giant Nigeria, and far more influence in international politics.

[@Shimra8888]

As long as Catalonia is connected to Spain, it will decline.

[@joaquimbento9406]

That's seriously biased. Catalonia allways fought for their independence since, at least, the 30 years war. But alas, unlike Portugal they had neither soft morals, disregard for religion or a alliance wiht England.

[@senefelder]

Not that much under Pujol though

[@Armin.2627]

First

[@michaelmayhem350]

First to cry for the attention mommy didn't give you because she doesn't love you

[@Armin.2627]

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[@michaelmayhem350]

@@Armin.2627 I always thought the people who wrote first were too brain dead to write anything more coherent than a single word. You just confirmed it with your reply.

[@Armin.2627]

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[@T00Busy113]

4:55 The collective west, especially America points to China, Russia and Iran

[@peterpanini96]

I agree with you... ccatalans always look at you as if youre wrre a dman immigrant even when you own their independetist dni... 😢😢😢

[@frmcf]

6:00 What is the point that you're trying to make about the Rodalies de Catalunya trains and FGC ones? Rodalies is owned jointly by the Spanish state and the Generalitat de Catalunya and is the main operator of local/commuter services in Catalonia. It runs hundreds of services on the public railways (i.e. owned by Adif) and must carry millions of passengers a day. FGC is wholly owned by the Generalitat and is a much much smaller operator running mostly short-distance services on closed, isolated lines, like the Sant Joan Funicular (Montserrat) that you've shown here. To transpose it to the UK, it would be like comparing TFL with the little tourist train that goes up Snowdon. To anyone who has any idea of the subject, it's so plainly absurd to say that they are "basically the same" that you can't continue with any credibility.

[@i.p2088]

Main reason - Siesta culture.

[@Mortarion-xt9wp]

Definitely not. Even as somebody not living in Spain I do know that midday there is way too hot to do productive work. That being said the length of the siesta might need adjustment.

[@luongo7886]

As an American, I'm 150% for CATALONIAN INDEPENDENCE!!!