The Edgiest Character Cut from Game of Thrones

Hello everyone! Today I'm discussing the coolest and most dangerous and not overly theatrical character #asongoficeandfire, Gerold Dayne. He wasn't in Game of Thrones, but it seems like he'll have an important role in the Winds of Winter.
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Thank you all for watching, I'll be back with more theories next week! Art in the thumbnail is by Bella Bergolts (Darkstar art) and Eddie Mendoza (Starfall art). Character art in this video is by TheMico!
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00:00 Crucial Cuts
00:56 Darkness Falls
01:35 Who Is Gerold Dayne?
02:35 Authorial Intent
03:33 The Watcher
04:24 House Dayne
05:17 Darkstar's Next Moves
05:50 Camera That Rides
06:37 Dawn
07:38 Location and Proximity
08:33 A Potential Puppet
09:38 Becoming a Villain
10:36 Dusk

[@HOTD108_]

It's so funny that David and Dan's Star Wars project was cancelled before we heard a single thing about it lmao.

[@BlackstreetBoys2Men]

This is what gives me peace, the karma

[@Zenmaster_0-0_]

​@@BlackstreetBoys2Men 100%

[@JoshuaKevinPerry]

Star Wars announces new films to convince investors that more money is coming in. Announced and cancelled around 10 films. D/D wrote the 3-body problem and tbh they did a good job at making GOT better than the books...before s5

[@thing_under_the_stairs]

Too bad they were allowed to touch Three Body Problem. The books are great, but I will never watch that series.

[@anonymous-hz2un]

​@@JoshuaKevinPerry better than the books??? Get out of here 😂😂

[@breesway9749]

If Darkstar has 1000 fans I’m one of them. If Darkstar has 1 fan it’s me. If Darkstar has 0 fans it’s because I’m dead.

[@maylabrown4584]

*I will be the reason that Darkstar has 0 fans* - Lord Jay of House Brown.

[@billychops1280]

No brother I stand with in défense of dark star

[@dylanfriese8077]

So Zased

[@rodrigovaccari7547]

Bro is on the verge of his villain arc

[@pyramidion5911]

Thats Dark

[@xtragedgnolf]

- Shows up - "I am Darkstar, and I am Of the Night" - Maims child -Leaves

[@ArjunaR-wt9xe]

The maims child part is questionable, no one ever saw him do it - I think it's a misdirect for sure.

[@jj947]

I think the difference between Gerold and Euron is that we learn about Euron from people that are genuinely scared of him (Asha, Vic, Aeron), while most of the “cool” things about Gerold are said by Gerold

[@davidlewis5312]

Darkstar comes off as someone's first tabletop rpg edgelord baby Euron comes off as the DMs villainous villain

[@jj947]

@@davidlewis5312also Euron has an actual history before we meet him. He’s captained a ship, fought in wars, was banished by his brother, and sailed to all of these exotic places. As opposed to Gerald, who’s just “a good fighter”

[@gokbay3057]

@@jj947 Yeah, he has accomplishments (a whole ship and crew, able to give tons of gifts/bribes in the Kingsmoot) vs Darkstar, who allegedly failed to kill a 10 year old girl.

[@thor30013]

@@gokbay3057 that's basically my thoughts as well. Even without establishing Euron before hand, he comes in with plenty of stuff to prove how accomplished he is. Darkstar, on the other hand, has been all talk so far.

[@cliffordrose4335]

We learned about the perception that others have of Ser Gerold Dayne from others such as Ser Daemon Sand, Prince 🤴 Doran Martell and Princess Arianne Martell who add to his mystery.

[@judeconnor-macintyre9874]

Holy shit, Darkstar only appears in one chapter. I swear to god he was in two at least. We give him shit but he is pretty memorable for being in such a small piece of such a large story.

[@mementomori771]

Memorable for the wrong reasons

[@Lumistrocity]

​@@mementomori771average Doran propaganda believer

[@CrusaderChris]

No one can make me hate you, Gerold, my sweet Sword of the Evening

[@mgonzo3881]

You’re the Darkstar of ASOIAF channels

[@tsarcastic3722]

I heard they filmed all of Darkstar's scenes for the show, but when they went to edit the footage it was all pitch black, completely unusable.

[@incitatus953]

Nobody knows this, but Darkstar was visible for a few frames in "The long Night", making the rest of the episode so dark.

[@pyramidion5911]

Keanu Reeves turned down the role around season 3 and George never regained interest in the series.

[@MA-rf6bu]

Didn’t stop them before

[@Captain_Insano_nomercy]

Okay, but let's be honest, Darkstar is an awesome name. That's one of those names that you secretly hope people start calling you, but you probably have to apply it to yourself

[@jj947]

George Costanza ordering t bone steak

[@GreyWasteTim]

"Call me Darkstar." Dude, your name is basically Jerry. Just a total Grateful Dead reference through and through.

[@jj947]

“I mean, what’s the deal with Queenmaking?”

[@bjam27]

Oh come on !

[@Matt-xc6sp]

Drop some shade of the evening and jam out on the harp

[@buxzw1945]

Which makes me worried that GRRM actually thinks Darkstar is a cool badass haha

[@troperhghar9898]

Darkstar: I am of the night Shadow the hedgehog: ... buddy, you need to lighten up

[@yorlanex1270]

Batman: And I am Vengeance. I am the night. I AM BATMAN.

[@OrangeBurgerSC706]

Lmao

[@1998topornik]

XD

[@fpl_djhammer]

"buddy.... u think u look strong? you're wearing purple drapes"

[@sheagaming]

Idk how to explain this but Gerold has to tell everyone how cool he is, while Euron shows it! Also someone else said we don’t have 3 different POVs whose internal monologue expresses how scared they are of Darkstar. Also there’s no Darkstar “Forsaken” chapter as of yet. All bro has done is cut off a little girl’s ear and talk about how cool he is

[@jj947]

Show don’t tell, exactly. The difference between someone Arianne Martell finds “cool” and someone *Victorian Greyjoy* finds scary is taller than the wall

[@status_quo_post]

Dorans goals truly are beyond our understanding.

[@Astromamut]

He neither doing nothing nor plotting, but a secret third thing

[@davidlewis5312]

or his probably, but defintely beyond his reach.

[@davidlewis5312]

@@Astromamut pooping?

[@Lord_Taron_Texas]

Dark stars biggest problem is he is so butthurt that he is not the most famous Dayne and that he does not get to wield Dawn

[@gokbay3057]

Yeah, that part of him + Euron and Daemon having results vs failing to kill a ten year old is probably what makes the difference of the latter two being cool badasses and Darkstar being a wannabe edgelord.

[@Lord_Taron_Texas]

@@gokbay3057 he's so overcome with the just the sheer weight of butthurt that he'll do anything to try to outshine Ser Arthur Dayne, whether it be evil or cruel or anything really I'm sure

[@tk423b]

Dark Star is so cool. He taught me how to ollie off of a curb. It is known.

[@joshtedmanson6078]

This gave me a genuine laugh. Well played sir

[@mr_yoru5834]

I think Darkstar is easy to make fun of because other edgy characters like Euron or Daemon have real accomplishments to back up their claims of badassery. Euron, at least, has his creepy crew and a magic horn to suggest that he really has been places few people have been and is genuinely unhinged. Daemon was famed as one of the last great Targaryen warriors to ride a dragon. Darkstar just attacks a little girl and runs away after spouting nonsense about being "of the night" like he's freaking Batman. Maybe if he had done some things to back up the perception GRRM was going for, then he wouldn't come off as a poser.

[@gokbay3057]

That and he is incredibly obviously jealous of Arthur Dayne. "Why is my cousin the only Dayne people remember"

[@CulinVlau]

I see Darkstar as the Dornish version of Lyn Corbray.

[@Mr.PepeSilvia]

Well said never thought about that. Although Lyn has more feats currently.

[@davidlewis5312]

@@Mr.PepeSilvia pretty much Badass prick Probably a good swordsman Magic Sword Gerald needs Dawn to complete the checklist

[@Mymmii]

I think a lot of his edginess stems from reading his quotes out of context. I'm not saying he's not an edgelord but the famous "I am of the night" quote is clearly a joke to Myrcella when they were introduced to eachother and Myrcella was being courteous and recognizing the fame of Arthur Dayne and asking whether Gerold was the sword of the morning. I mean it's not like he is barging in to conversations with his epic one-liners.

[@DiviAugusti]

Yeah I never understood the hate for that line either. He is just saying he doesn’t have a lot in common with his “of the morning” cousin.

[@AesirUnlimited]

That’s still really edgy though. Anyone who says they are of the night, even ironically is still edgier than they probably should be.

[@mario167100]

Darkstar is an anime character that was born into the ASOIF world.

[@mementomori771]

ASOIF is super anime lol it has children winning wars against seasoned generals

[@ranfan1820]

​@@mementomori771There were real life people who ruled or waged war at young ages. It was different times where you had to grow up fast and having experienced advisors or older people certainly helped.

[@ingen_nate_kenny6588]

"Why is that my cousin is the only Dayne that anyone remembers?" is actually a funny line though. I don't think Doran Martell is one to try to orchestrate an attack on a little girl under his care. And Areo Hotah is a trusted companion to Doran --- why would he send him off after Darkstar? The Camera That Rides having three chapters makes me think there will be something more than Darkstar in his chapters. Interestingly, the next closet POV character would be Sam in Oldtown, and we know Obara is joining Areo Hotah. Obara knows that Alleras is Sarella. Recall that Sam told *everything* to Sarella, all of stuff about the Others, and Sarella knows about the dragons as well. I think more like that Darkstar flees again (perhaps a recurring theme for this character), joining the Dornish armies of Lord Yronwood and Fowler that may/will help Aegon and the Golden Company. After all, if Dorne is at war with the Lannisters, why wouldn't they want them? I think him being a Kingsguard member, paralleling his cousin, with Dawn in toe seems like a relevant outcome for this character. Do a video on Ronnet Connington!

[@HerbCoswellBornAgain]

Personally, I always thought it he a fun idea of Darkstar was Jon Snows twin and he'd somehow be the key to revealing his true parentage, and maybe Ned had Darkstar sent to be raised by the Daynes to avoid the burden of having to raise to children as bastards or something. But I don't think that'll be the case, for multiple reasons but mainly because I feel like if George was going that route, he'd make Gerold look more like how Jon does, but just with Silver hair instead of Black hair, as well as write him more as a dark reflection/opposite parallel to Jon.

[@gokbay3057]

That would be a hilarious idea ngl, I kinda love it. Someone should write a fanfic with that being a central part of it.

[@realhillkell]

Haha "Showrunners as desperate to work on Star Wars as David and Dan"

[@aleksanderkorecki7887]

They should've worked on Darkstar.

[@KarlKarsnark]

Yes, "Aquiline" sounds like "Aqua + Line"(aka "The Roman Nose"). Means lit has a prominent ridge that then "bend"/turns downward a bit(from Latin "aquillinus"/Eagle-like). Charles Dance(Tywin) is a great example as is the drawing of Darkstar you showed. A sign of "Class" and "proper breeding"(Valyrian), as it were. The whole "Sword of the Morning" becoming the "Sword of the Mourning" is a pun that GRRM can't resist. Makes me think that it will be used to kill one of our favorite characters, hence the "mourning" implication. Doing so would then end the Long Night and allow for the literal "morning"/"Dawn" to break. The only characters I can think of would be Dany or Jon, but that also seems a bit obvious. Maybe it's both!

[@bjam27]

Aquiline is from the latin aquila meaning eagle. 😂 good try so

[@KarlKarsnark]

@@bjam27 I know, That's why I said so ;) I can reading comprehension isn't really your thing, is it?

[@xpertcraft]

I think the reason people like Euron more than Darkstar is because Euron can back up all his talk with actual feats. Darkstar kinda just talks a big game then fails to kill a 10 year old girl

[@pyramidion5911]

Euron is gay

[@Lord_Taron_Texas]

Finally I've been waiting for a video dedicated to just Set Gerald Dayne

[@cliffordrose4335]

So have we all 😮

[@Lord_Taron_Texas]

@@cliffordrose4335 Hazaah

[@johnnye87]

Darkstar as a catspaw has the same vibe as Lyn Corbray being the agent of Littlefinger. The Dornish plot also demonstrates why it's so crucial to have plausibly deniable false-flag operators - their entire vendetta against Tywin is rooted in the fact that everyone knows Gregor Clegane acts on his orders. Clegane would be the PERFECT "hey you can't expect me to control that guy, he's wild" agent, except that Tywin makes such a huge show of how he crushes all disloyalty that he can't possibly make that excuse ring true.

[@tommythecat4961]

Love the voice crack at 00:58 because that's exactly how I imagine Gerold Dayne's voice to sound when he introduces himself!

[@eversor10]

Darkstar was framed

[@thanos_karagiannhs5320]

Honestly the the, I am of the night line is peak dialogue compared to the average exchange between characters in season 8

[@BenMedia7]

I think Darkstar will join up with fAegon as part of his Kingsguard. JonCon would see it as good propaganda (the new Sword of the Morning and the son of Rhaegar) and this would create some interesting drama since Arianne will likely marry fAegon.

[@aprilmae274]

1 minute in and already you got me rolling-'...he prolly gave himself THAT name' o MAN the pure SMARM with which you say that is in perfect tone.

[@sawyeraik]

Gerold's entire... everything... plays very well into my thesis that Arthur Dayne also wasn't shit, actually, and Jaime's rose-tinted memories of him are very much similar to a kid who peaked in high school dickriding his football coach who was nice to him before dying in drunk driving accident. Ned and Howland are very cool and sexy and valid for stuffing Arthur full of poison darts and stabbing him in the back or whatever else "dishonorable" thing they did at the Tower Of Backstory. Hope Gerold end up like that also. Ashara and Little Ned are the only valid Daynes. (this thesis is borne entirely out of my desire to ruin knight powerscaling circlejerks lmao, its not serious)

[@DrBusiness9]

Lol you don’t need the disclaimer. It’s rather obvious

[@pyramidion5911]

"Everyone's into powerscaling until they get punched in the face" -Gerry Darkstar

[@MA-rf6bu]

Arthur is the real shit, Barristan fought with him and acknowledged that he was the finest knight he ever saw.

[@fenixchief7]

DnDnD is a combination we are lucky to have missed. With what they turned Euron into, I can only imagine the kind of edge lord they would have turned a guy named "Darkstar" into.

[@Seelenverheizer]

a finger in the bum!

[@Lord_Taron_Texas]

Honestly I feel almost like in some way or another Dark Star is working with Prince doran. He may very well be the one that is full name of the princesses plot

[@gokbay3057]

IIRC you are following Preston's fanfiction Winds project. What do you think of what was done with him in that (and to Areo "Camera that rides" Hotah)?

[@QuinnTheGM]

Those chapters are tied with Alayne II as my favorites, I think they've done a fantastic job capturing the central conflict in Areo moving forward - the difficulty of putting morality aside and living only by one's vows.

[@cliffordrose4335]

My favorite aSoI&F alternative theory is that Ser Gerold Dayne aka the Knight of High Hermitage shares the three physical traits "that bespoke the Valyrian blood" of Ser Laenor Velaryon as recognized by ArchMaester Gyldayn on page 📄 374 in "Fire and Blood": 1) Silvery-White hair 2) Aquiline nose 3) Purple eyes. Laenor Velaryon has these three Valyrian blood traits and so does Gerold Dayne curiously 🤔. I submit that just as Ser Laenor Velaryon was born from a royal Targaryen womb via Princess Rhaenys Targaryen . . . Ser Gerold Dayne was born from a royal Targaryen womb via Queen Rhaella Targaryen. That streak of midnight black in his Platinum head of hair is very likely to be dye ala Prince 🤴 Aegon Targaryen VI in his false identity of Young Griff with Blue hair. Gerold Dayne has no father or mother . . . no sisters or brothers . . . no birthday or year of exact birth rather. He could be the boy 👑 Viserys Targaryen III formerly crowned by her Grace 👑 Rhaella Targaryen at Dragonstone Castle 🏰 after the sack of King's Landing as his father the Mad King was slain by Ser Jamie Lannister. High Hermitage sounds like a really remote and reclusive (royal?) residence in the Red Mountains of Dorne. The word hermitage translates to "the disinherited" curiously enough 🤔. Could High Hermitage have been financed and constructed by the Lords of Tourantine at the direction of her Grace Queen Rhaella Targaryen to serve as a secret stronghold sanctuary for her last living son after the horrific slaughter of her beloved Targaryen grandbabies Princess Rhaenys and Prince Aegon VI?!? 👑 Viserys Targaryen III was the Great-great-grandson of Prince Maekar Targaryen and Lady Dyanna Dayne afterall!! Where else would her Grace turn to for help after she had been so brutally betrayed by close family friends in House Lannister but her noble cousins of House Dayne!?! There were certainly a good supply of proper prospects at Dragonstone village for a royal decoy to rhe newly crowned boy 👑 Viserys III as Dragonseed children were known for having Valyrian blood traits of Purple eyes and Platinum hair and some surely had Aquiline noses too. Princess Myrcella Baratheon was appointed a royal decoy in her cousin Rosamund for her security protocol down at Dorne waa she not?!? Why wouldn't King Viserys III be afforded the same precautionary protocol . . . there was mo question that he was the legitimate last living male heir to House Targaryen rather than a false Baratheon princess right!?! Targaryen royal babies have been slaughtered . . . not taken hostage . . . BUTCHERED!! What 🤯 was the likely fate of Targaryen royal boy then . . . last living son of her Grace 😭 👑 Rhaella Targaryen?!? She got him the hell out of there!!!!! 👑 Viserys III lives and may reveal himself in the epilogue of "The Winds of Winter" as he rallies the Anti-Martell Dornish nobels in a bloody coup of Sunspear while weilding the legendary sword 🗡️ "Dawn" after washing out that midnight black streak of dye from his Silvery-White scalp.

[@sophiaisbased9621]

Jerry Dorkstar my beloved edgy emo boy

[@connors9597]

5:18 this is the moment that Darkstar became ‘Derold’

[@Seelenverheizer]

I think the true key to our edgelord over here is the fact that GRRM was building little Ned Dayne up to wield Dawn after the 5 year skip. Then as he realised the 5 year skip is not happening Darkstar has been included and poor Ned stoped beeing mentioned in the background. We dont know what Ned Dayne was ment to do then likely wield Dawn at some point but i am pretty sure Darkstar is his replacement and at one point will do what little Ned was ment to do. Sure he has his own story and his involvement will the queenmaking incident but i feel confident that will be left behind for him. Good chance that the camara that rides will become buddy with Dankstar and go on a journey to do what GRRM needs them to do. Both of them feel very much like tools born of a narrative problem GRRM ran into to fix that problem. GRRM beeing a good writter did build them in a way like they do seem like actual characters not just as replacement and fixes and therefore they get involved into the Dorn stuff.

[@gangstapenguin2773]

Darkstar - the most blatant Grateful Dead reference GRRM put in. Once I read that, I started picking up on a shit ton more, starting with the hilltribes Mountains of the Moon

[@iRob-tr2oj]

I wish I could like all your videos twice. Keep up the great work I love your videos.

[@Sir_Gerald_Nosehairs.]

With what we've seen of Doran, I would be very surprised if he told Darkstar to harm Myrcella. Doesn't seem his style to me, his whole vibe is that he doesn't want the innocent to suffer, and he seems genuinely distraught over Myrcella being hurt. But maybe t here's some wishful thinking there, I like Doran.

[@judeconnor-macintyre9874]

No actor could handle Darkstar.

[@jj947]

To channel his inner darkness, you’d have to live in Bulgaria for 36 hours

[@DrBusiness9]

Oh totally, it would be almost impossible to play a mysterious dark character in a show full of… mysterious…. dark characters…. Hmmmmm

[@thing_under_the_stairs]

@@jj947 Or maybe spend a winter at the Arctic Circle. Iqaluit anyone?

[@samuelleask1132]

Great video mate!

[@josephpotter7776]

Great video. Keep up the great work

[@thehalfmanTL]

7:11 took me back to the show when you said " Dorne's sigil " 😂😂

[@Bewbscueser]

It beaks my heart that videos like this are the closest we will ever get to a finished story. George hasn't worked on the main series for years and will never finish Winds let alone ADoS. My best friend and the person who gave me my first copy of AGoT passed away unexpectedly. I wonder how many people who love these books will never know how the story ends.

[@oofwa9823]

"smash that like button like you're darkstar and its an unarmed 10 year old girl" is so wild i had to give it a like

[@tyr4489]

I always thought Darkstar was a straight ahead version of the brooding, sneering anti-hero grimdark protagonist from the 90s that Jon seems to be subverting. George seems the type to simultaneously appreciate something (Darkstar) while also wanting to move beyond it (Jon)

[@whyareyoureadingmynickname8158]

I'm currently rereading whole series and I finished "Feast" yesterday. I almost forgot how much of an edgy piece of 💩 Darkstar is and how much I loved him because of it. He and Euron are definitely standouts among the newcomers in the book.

[@thepunisher6674]

I don’t know why darkstar wants dawn he doesn’t need a sword with all the edge he has

[@AstaraBrightwing]

5:17 "We learn of *Deeerrrrrald's* next movements.

[@joshuamagee2272]

“He probably gave himself that name” made me laugh so hard I woke up my dog

[@merengueatang4]

Personally, I think the funniest thing for his character is for him to be a legitimate badass, but also super edgy. I love him.

[@sophiaisbased9621]

Wait wtf I made the meme at 1:18 lol

[@error-err-1016]

My head canon is that I was the inspiration for this video (I'm the guy who's been commenting about Darkstar on the other videos)

[@error-err-1016]

Btw Darkstar is going to resurrect Twin, and they're going to give birth to a time traveling fetus (who is Jon Connington)

[@QuarterRican04]

Great vid! Still don't understand at all how this plot line helps George wrap up the story in 2 books tho 😂

[@MeetThaNewDealer]

Westeros' every own edgelord

[@billberndtson]

I see the Darkstar stans in the comments; I think he's ridiculous. Other Vampire the Masquerade players think he's a bit much. He wants to cosplay Batman but can't imagine covering his face. He eats Hot Topic Hot Pockets. He's a clove cigarette wearing a knock-off Korn tee-shirt.

[@samuelschonenberger]

Coincidengally, I named my iPad Gerold specifically because it sounds like a really uncool and like an old person name, how fitting that it's Mr Edgelord himself

[@handlethesenutz]

>rolls into the story apropos of nothing >gets people to start calling him darkstar >fails to kill a little girl >flees into the desert >never heard from again unfathomably based, lord jerry

[@Slender_Man_186]

Euron is an eldrich Pirate lord clad in Valyrian Steel armor about to turn a naval battle into a blood sacrifice Daemon is the mother fucking Rogue Prince, wielder of Dark Sister, rider of the Blood Wyrm, he won a war out of spite. Gerald “Darkstar” failed to kill a 10 year old and isn’t worthy of his family sword. Two of these characters earned their edginess, the other did not.

[@aprilmae274]

I didn't mean to post that-I was typing in segments as your video played out, sorry. Euron isn't going to take Starfall by land-he is going to go by water. LOOK at how Euron is taking ALL of the land BY river/causeways. lol I know, nobody really believes me, but all I am doing is reading the story in the books. The Daynes ARE going to be attacked by Euron. Period. Euron wants their sword. I love that you can tell what has to be coming-and it has to be right. Dark Star and Euron almost HAVE to come together in some way. And Eddric Dayne. SOMETHING HAS to happen between these 3 somehow in text going forward, regarding Dawn.

[@ashleyofnaath]

Darkstar is of Oberyn Martell. It is known. This is why he attacked Myrcella, and why Doran considers him dangerous. He wants what all the sand snakes want- vengeance for their father.

[@spadinnerxylaphone2622]

I think Euron earned his spot as a horrifying monster; Darkstar just kinda shows up and we're expected to give it to him.

[@joshuaevans6295]

I half-thought this was going to be about Euron Greyjoy then remembered that a character of that name does appear in the show

[@jf_kein_k8590]

That TWOW cover made me overthink for a moment that I missed the release.

[@ThommyofThenn]

It's so interesting how grrm, a writer so gifted, he's made me laugh, weep, cry with joy, hate and hope; wrote a character like Gerald. We know obviously that grrm can write very fully realised, complex characters, so the inclusion of such a seemingly "basic" edgelord seems very deliberate to me. I suppose it could just be filler he busted out to meet a deadline? What game is grrm playing at?

[@jamiecarr7372]

Raspberry. There's only one person who would give me the raspberry. Darkstar!

[@blackop013]

George gave him that nickname to call him asshole without actually saying it.

[@attackhelicopterjr4481]

I'll tell you one thing and I'm not ashamed to say it, my estimation of D and D as a producer just facking plummeted.

[@jazzycat8917]

I think the Euron vs Darkstar disparity that we know what Euron's done enough for the edge to be backed up. Euron has committed crimes against the gods themselves and seems to be getting away with it like an absolute champion. Darkstar failed to kill a child, and then ran away. His edgelordery isn't yet validated or surpassed by enough legitimately intimidating action.

[@johnnye87]

I think the issue with Darkstar is that (Arianne aside, and she already seems like an unreliable narrator on the subject of hot boys), he's the ONLY character who talks about himself in those terms. We've never heard of him before and he shows up thinking he's hot shit. Euron's a giant narcissist, but based on other characters' opinions of him and his on-page achievements, he does have something the brag about; he is, in fact, dangerous and powerful and wealthy. If Darkstar had been previously mentioned as someone Doran was respectfully wary of, or who Arys or Areo considered a worthy opponent, then we'd be cued up to think he was something special and his high opinion of himself would feel at least a little earned. In fact his on-page achievements *contribute* to the image of him as a paper tiger; he tries to kill a little girl and fails, then he's reported to have killed a knight when he actually didn't. Those events might be inconsequential if we already thought he was a capable warrior, but when they're all the information we have to go on, he looks incompetent and overhyped.

[@hardlo7146]

Wasnt his edgy quote told to Myrcella though? I always thought he was being cute/teasing, the way adults do to small children, not trying to be edgy

[@Seelenverheizer]

GRRM mentioning the fact someone sold the queenmakers out is a strong indication that Darkstar is actually working for Doran or at least they have a mutually beneficial partnership. Darkstar can become famous and powefull while Doran can partially cover him but also has enought stratigic deniablity for having any influence on him. Makes a lot of sense. To me Darkstar always felt like someone who is on his journey to becoming a badass but is trying really hard to already be a complete badass and thefore does come actually as an emo edgelord. Also this does unfortunatly date the books. Darkstar was absolutely written in a time where edgy dudes were percieved much more favorably as they are now. The series is taking so long the character archtype and audiences perspective on that changed since he first appeared on page.

[@jamiecarr7372]

The sword would be known as "The Sword of Sparkly Vampires (Twilight)"

[@NYCfrankie]

I think darkstar stealing dawn and ending up in faegons kingsguard makes sense the "son" of Rhaegar putting a Dayne on his kingsguard just fits because arthur dayne was rhaegars best friend and a knight of house Dayne with dawn would give faegon legitimacy

[@emersonpage5384]

Getting real "of the night" vibes from this guy

[@TheStoneTargaryen]

Your voice is. Very easy on the ears 🫠

[@GreyWasteTim]

Dark star crashes, pouring it's light into ashes Reason tatters, the forces tear loose from the axis Searchlight casting for faults in the clouds of delusion Shall we go, you and I while we can Through the transitive nightfall of diamonds? Mirror shatters in formless reflections of matter Glass hand dissolving in ice petal flowers revolving Lady in velvet recedes in the nights of good bye Shall we go, you and I while we can Through the transitive nightfall of diamonds

[@AndrewRisitano]

I would love it if he could end a few sentences with "per se" in his next appearance. Nothing edgier than those south park vampire kids lol

[@booyakuhsha24]

Was dark star potentially Arthur Dayne’s squire during the events at the tower of Joy? Maybe that’s why he is the most dangerous man in Dorne?

[@QuinnTheGM]

I think he’s too young for the timing to work out on that.

[@jrsam21]

God D&D butchered the Dorne plot so bad. They had a great actor for Doran, I so wanted to see the “I was the grass” scene in live action.

[@gabrielcanejo187]

3:18 i Mean it's Beyond Obvious why! I Really can't see how could anyone not understand and fully agree why people are scared of Euron and not of... Gerold (he doesn't derseve the Darkstar Nickname), Author Intention Be Dammed!

[@worldstar2235]

At the pace we’re going, we getting Armageddon first than Winds of winter

[@stephengrant4841]

Euron gives us reasons to take him seriously and earns that edginess. While Darkstar has a few moments, it's nowhere near as earned.

[@mrdarkstar3756]

Im a big Darkstar fan

[@ChuJungyin]

Gerold Dayne Men call me Darkstar, and I am of the night. Deadpool: You're so dark. Are you sure you're not from the DC universe?

[@billychops1280]

I’m pretty sure Gerold is gonna manage to kill Obara and maybe would Areo or Baelor but I doubt they’ll kill him

[@queenxx1690]

Daynes are not Valyrians they come from Empire of the Dawn and probably had the same ancestors as Valyrians(that's why purple eyes and some may have silver hair just like Hightowers minus purple eyes).Dayne used to be fighting for power in Dorne with Martells as they used to be Kings there Daynes are more of a Dornishmen of the highlands so they are different more pale skinned while Martells are living on deserts and come from Rayners so they skin is darker and they eyes are dark

[@quoc-nam6286]

everyone calls darkstar an edgy teenager but the guy has actually given all the clues to guess he's as roguish and competent a fighter as Bronn

[@JoshuaKevinPerry]

He likes it in the Darkstar. He and Euron would get along well.

[@gabrielcanejo187]

3:00 then Martin does NOT know how to write this Type of Characters.

[@itsmainelyyou5541]

Ack-quill-lyn. Most people say ack-quill-line which is also correct.

[@theyoungknight.3119]

Euron has shown us his evil,Power,Madness and success while Darkstar says similar things with nothing to back it up so far.

[@squidysquid9687]

I’m trying to find this vid, it’s about how possibly Darkstar didn’t cut myrcella. If anyone finds it can you send me the link

[@danny_oliver]

I remember Preston Jacobs saying that on his Dornish Master Plan series I think, not so sure, don't know if that's what you're looking for

[@squidysquid9687]

@@danny_oliver I will check one out, thank you

[@outsidein9809]

Darkstar is a G!

[@jewels6944]

well at the end of the day, what's the point GRRM will never release The wind 😅

[@gabrielcanejo187]

The Most Dangerous Man in Dorne... How long did you last reading this before Laughing?

[@j3fr0uk]

Did he slash her face tho?

[@travismcnasty4239]

Someone should have shown GRRM all the Shadow the Hedgehog cutscenes before publishing Feast.

[@QuinnTheGM]

Was that out in 2005? I’d figured it was later