The EG4 Chargeverter FIXES the Anker SOLIX F3800! Keep the 240v Powered On!

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Jasonoid - Solar Power, Batteries, and More!

Jasonoid - Solar Power, Batteries, and More!

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@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Ай бұрын
Watch my 'Tips and Tricks' F3800 video HERE: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jnfPg56Dop2lesU
@Huiando
@Huiando 5 күн бұрын
I just ordered a new Chargeverter and will try charging my two Anker Solix F3800s with it at the same time. I will update here if it works or not.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 5 күн бұрын
@Huiando I had a viewer let me know it works just fine. Set the amperage to 55 amps and let er rip.
@Huiando
@Huiando 5 күн бұрын
@@Jasonoid Holy guacamole! Thank you!
@OdessaBill
@OdessaBill 2 ай бұрын
This is the best video of 2024. My prayers have been answered.
@groovetech7972
@groovetech7972 Ай бұрын
I second this. Been trying to figure this out to be able to charge my ev far away from my apartment but still be used to cut electric bill. This + a couple server batteries would virtually eliminate my electric bill in my 1000sq ft apartment. I’m all in!
@Dave-mc3he
@Dave-mc3he 2 ай бұрын
I literally ordered this 2 days ago for the same purpose after doing weeks of research into the topic. This will save people time thank you
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 2 ай бұрын
Nice!
@CRoadwarrior
@CRoadwarrior 23 күн бұрын
@@Jasonoid Thanks so much for providing this video and the parts list. I got 2 Anker Solix F3800 for my home, and I did not realize that I cannot charge them with AC while powering the house with 240V and the power switch. Much appreciated. My only concern is the price of the EG4 Chargeverter. Would you happen to know of a product that can do the same thing (produce over 1,000 watts) at a lower price?
@djrtime1398
@djrtime1398 2 ай бұрын
I have an Anker f3800 and a 51.2v 100amp server battery. I charge both simultaneously with one 120v ac to 51.2v dc 30amp smart charger. I simply hook the charger leads to the cables on the server battery and branch of of that connection to the f3800 via an xt60 connector. Works beautifully and charger shuts down when both units are fully charged.
@OdessaBill
@OdessaBill 2 ай бұрын
This is a fantastic option. I’m so gonna replicate this!! Do you mind sharing the actual products you did this with?
@inworcester
@inworcester 2 ай бұрын
@djrtime1398 will it not work to charge the F3800 if there is no server battery in the mix similar to the one @jasonoid tried?
@JimmyPhones1
@JimmyPhones1 2 ай бұрын
Which charger do you use?
@OdessaBill
@OdessaBill 2 ай бұрын
After a little research, this is still a great option but looks to cost 900 for the battery and another 300 for the charger.
@djrtime1398
@djrtime1398 Ай бұрын
@@OdessaBill I can charge either my f2600, my f3800 and my AOlithium 51.2v 100ah server battery, all via their dc inputs with my LiTime 120v ac to 51.2v dc 30 amp charger.
@dancoyle7697
@dancoyle7697 2 күн бұрын
I’ve been looking at the EG4 Chargeverter to charge my two Pecron 3600LFPs while they are discharging 240v to my house. I really like the dual XT90 pigtails! Exactly what I didn’t know I was looking for!
@BackyardMaine
@BackyardMaine 27 күн бұрын
With the home power panel and an inverter generator you can charge the unit back up similar to the way it charges when power returns after an outage. I found out the hard way that they will not charge at all through the 120v plug when connect through the home power panel. Like you I figured out that you loose 240v when charging through the 120v plug when connected through the power block like you demonstrated in the video. Nice job with your presentation.
@TK-123
@TK-123 2 ай бұрын
You are a natural instructor. You know how to TEACH! Thank you for your channel.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 2 ай бұрын
Thank you! I try to keep things as simple as possible.
@kerryjohnson7364
@kerryjohnson7364 11 күн бұрын
Jason, I watched your video on the chargeverter plugged into the solar input of the anker unit. So would it be possible to use this same setup plugged out of the ac of a delta pro (Edison plug or 30 amp output )to the solar input of the 6000xp inverter as well? As you know, if I were to charge the 6000xp with 110ac from generator port or whatever, it disables one of the legs of the output. I am using just now installing the 6000 xp to supplement my house power but already have a Ecoflow delta pro with 2 batteries I would like to use for extra capacity for the 6000xp. So my question is, can I have the chargerverter plugged into my delta pro ac out and then adapt the other end into the one of the pv inputs of the 6000xp???? Additionally then I could still run solar into the other pv input as well. Thanks.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 11 күн бұрын
Unfortunately the EG4 6000xp requires at least 100vdc input DC to start charging and it prefers at least 120vdc of solar or battery voltage. Connecting the chargeverter up to the 6000xp solar input won't work properly....but that's not how you should connect up the chargeverter anyways. What you could do to use the extra power in your Delta Pro is it take the chargeverter and power it up with your Delta pro inverter with the 30 amp RV port and then connect the DC output of the chargeverter directly to your 48v battery terminals of your 48v system. The chargeverter is designed to charge a 48v battery directly so use it like that.
@kerryjohnson7364
@kerryjohnson7364 11 күн бұрын
@ this is kind of what I figured. Last question, If I have a couple batteries connected together to the 6000xp, Will the chargeverter still charge them together? If the communication port is connected to the inverter, it wouldn’t be connected to the chargeverter so I’m guessing I would set chargeverter parameters on how to charge??
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 11 күн бұрын
@@kerryjohnson7364 if the batteries are connected in parallel to the 6000xp, they will charge together if you connect the chargeverter to them. Set the charging parameters of the chargeverter to the specs of the batteries listed in their owners manual. Then the chargeverter will stop at the proper voltage. No communications cable needed. Also remember that the battery bms will keep the batteries from charging too high if you program something wrong.
@DavidAnderson-se1or
@DavidAnderson-se1or Ай бұрын
What an outstanding video! I was looking at this charger and you answered all of my questions for generator backup. Thank you for posting!
@johntate5284
@johntate5284 2 ай бұрын
EG4 has some really innovative products that are quite affordable. The Anker F3800 is still the king of all in one split phase products even with the qwerky 120 VAC charging problem and this EG4 chargeveter is a great solution. While the EcoFlow Delta 3 Pro is a very capable all in one, the 4KW output is a serious limitation (single unit) when compared to the F3800's 6KW split phase output which can run most 25 amp loads while the Delta Pro 3 cannot even run a 20 amp load (the same for Jackery's upcoming 4000 King product). 6KW is really the sweet spot for 240 split phase and the Anker Solix F3800 is the only reasonable priced single box solution. Thanks for going over all of your wiring adapters for this video! I'm a real nut too for making all kinds of adapters to meet all kinds of different requirements:D
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 2 ай бұрын
The new Jackery 5000 has a 7200w inverter. I'm testing it currently.
@ronbridegroom8428
@ronbridegroom8428 2 ай бұрын
@@Jasonoid I cannot tell from the material on their web site if this unit has a 240 volt split phase output of if you need two units and a combiner box like the original EcoFlow Delta Pro, Buletti AC 300/500 and the Pecron3600
@adriftatlas
@adriftatlas 2 ай бұрын
@@Jasonoid The Jackery 5000 manual suggests that one cannot use 240V outputs while connected to 120V. It appears that one needs the Smart Transfer Switch to charge from 240V and output 240V.
@zfontain1975
@zfontain1975 2 ай бұрын
Solar pv is terrible on 3800.
@jake-mv5oi
@jake-mv5oi 27 күн бұрын
​@@zfontain1975I was thinking the same thing. 60V input seems inadequate for its battery capacity
@Forevertrue
@Forevertrue 2 ай бұрын
Thanks again and again Jason always great useful stuff. Love it!
@unwin42
@unwin42 2 ай бұрын
When connecting different gauges of wire like that, it's a really good idea to include a fuse appropriate for the smallest wire.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tip!
@EruditeM
@EruditeM Ай бұрын
I'm confused, is the fuse recommended? I see Jason included a link to a fuse, but I'm lost as to which one to get and how it gets implemented into the wiring.
@EruditeM
@EruditeM Ай бұрын
@@Jasonoid I'm confused, is the fuse recommended? I see Jason included a link to a fuse, but I'm lost as to which one to get and how it gets implemented into the wiring.
@barrymclaughlin794
@barrymclaughlin794 Ай бұрын
I haven’t had the time or figured out how to connect my dual F3880 batteries with the HPP control to my existing Enphase solar array. I did have an old beast of a gas generator that isn’t likely to have a good sine wave output so I thought I would need to junk it and buy a new inverter generator but seeing how the EG4 will cope with less-than-ideal sine wave input and since my generator has the 240 output I think your timely video has shown me why I need to consider buying an EG4 chargeverter. Great video, thanks in advance.
@GordLamb
@GordLamb 2 ай бұрын
I find it pretty astonishing that someone at Anker signed off on this product design. I come from a datacenter background; the idea of a power supply randomly shutting off the output when an input is attached is pretty wild. That you can't charge the unit while maintaining its core functionality is even more wild. Still, the EC4 seems like a pretty solid SMPS.
@testchannelcomments8219
@testchannelcomments8219 2 ай бұрын
It can still supply 120v while charging from AC. However the other 1/2 of the 120 can either charge or be used for 240 just not both at the same time. Wish it could do both.... but then would need a 3rd inverter
@GordLamb
@GordLamb 2 ай бұрын
@@testchannelcomments8219 aye.. and that's just wild to me. :/ It's such an absurd oversight on something that expensive. The Ecoflow Delta Pro Ultra (its main competition) doesn't have that problem.
@testchannelcomments8219
@testchannelcomments8219 2 ай бұрын
@@GordLamb Well for people like me who have older generator its still cheaper to buy a chargeverter then a new generator as I would still need something to clean the sine wave so I dont end up breaking the delta pro
@GordLamb
@GordLamb 2 ай бұрын
@@testchannelcomments8219 oh, yeah it seems like a pretty solid product and a good solution. :)
@fromcitytowild
@fromcitytowild 2 ай бұрын
Cool video idea if you're interested. Off grid setup, using one Anker f3800 with the tranfer switch from them. But instead of using Ankers expansion battery, you get s server rack setup. I'm wanting to go this route and leaning towards the smaller Eg4 solar charge controllers which are $400 I think so I can get more solar up. Basically just charging the f3800 from the server rack battery with one input while the other 1,200w input has solar. Showing the wiring, how to use server rack battery would cool to see.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 2 ай бұрын
I show how to use 48v batteries on the Anker F3800 here in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jnfPg56Dop2lesU It's an excellent way to get more capacity at a great price!
@skipchang
@skipchang 2 ай бұрын
@@JasonoidThat video gave me the idea of creating the following system for when the power goes out during the storm (I live in SW Florida): rack of 48V batteries -> pair of F3800 -> Smart Home panel. I’m planning on using the Chargeverter to charge the batteries when they go low. I’m unable to put permanent solar panels on the roof for many reasons. I’ll have several “portable” panels to pull out when the power goes out. Not being able to have a common ground for the two MPPT charge port will be a big issue for me. I’m hoping your contact with Anker will force them to update the firmware to allow that. Thanks again for continuing this thread.
@AveRage_Joe
@AveRage_Joe 2 ай бұрын
I have 2 F3800's and a chargeverter. I can try when I get back from my trip unless someone tries before I get back.
@testchannelcomments8219
@testchannelcomments8219 2 ай бұрын
You can get the 1150 charge for both 3800's Not sure with the HPP yet.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 2 ай бұрын
Please let me know if you can charge two units with one chargeverter 👍
@EKingJames1288
@EKingJames1288 Ай бұрын
Any updates on if you are able to charge both 3800s with one chargeverter?
@JeffLevy99
@JeffLevy99 Ай бұрын
@@EKingJames1288I have hooked the chargeverter up to two f3800 that are connected to the home power panel and I found that when I do this one of the units starts charging up to 1150W then I plug it into a second one and the second one starts to gain watts but then they both start losing watts. If I leave just one connected it stays at 1150, but as soon as I hook up a second one, the first one starts losing watts and the second one starts gaining, but only to a certain point, that is not even close to 1150w. I’m wondering if it’s a setting on the EG4 charger converter. It would really be great if I could get the EG4 to charge both of them at full watts. Any ideas?
@BeeBeorn
@BeeBeorn 2 ай бұрын
These sb50/Anderson/forklift-connectors are perfect in my opinion. Makes lots of remodeling in the sytems very easy. Sure you maybe loose some amp/voltage but very useful and easy. I like them better than xt-connectors.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 2 ай бұрын
I love these SB50 connectors!
@rpsmith
@rpsmith 2 ай бұрын
@@Jasonoid -- The SB50 Anderson is only rated for 50 amps and the Chargeverter can bet set to output 100 amps. Anderson makes an SB120 connector to can handle the full 100 amps.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 2 ай бұрын
@@rpsmith yeah, for this wiring setup I won't be going over 50 amps. If I ever need more power I'll use different connectors 👍
@rcguymike
@rcguymike 2 ай бұрын
Also I would recommend adding inline circuit breakers and/or fuses to protect the wiring on the adapters. Worst case scenario you can send the full current of the chargeverter through the 8 AWG if there's a short.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 2 ай бұрын
The chargeverter has a circuit breaker built into it.
@rcguymike
@rcguymike 2 ай бұрын
@@Jasonoid rated for how many amps? It's probably much higher than 8AWG wire can handle
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 2 ай бұрын
@@rcguymike ill have to look closer when I get back home from vacation 👍
@rwk1859
@rwk1859 19 күн бұрын
Also, those SB50 connectors are only rated to 50amps. The full power of the Chargeverter going to a 48v battery is 100amps. Dangerous combo without some fail-safes.
@JimEdds
@JimEdds Ай бұрын
Just what I have been looking for. Thank you so much.
@arnoldreiter435
@arnoldreiter435 2 ай бұрын
i updated my Anker last week and now have 3 used 250w panels in parallel connected. Three days now and the f3800 is charged from about 20% to full by 2pm. i have ordered a second solar input cable and have 3 more panels ready to connect. i expect the f3800 to be able to run my garage/workshop mini split, freezer and occasionally the pellet stove 24/7. Now i just have to wait for black friday and see if i can swing an expansion battery for some multi day capacity.
@SgtSweatySac
@SgtSweatySac 2 ай бұрын
Out of curiosity, which panels are you using?
@fromcitytowild
@fromcitytowild 2 ай бұрын
He's talked about, and other channels too, about using a server rack battery instead of Anker's expansion battery is not only cheaper but way more capacity. That's the route I'm going towards. I understand I could've went straight to server rack batteries for our cabin but I wanted something mobile to take in our bus conversion for camping.
@JosephLeRoy-i7d
@JosephLeRoy-i7d Ай бұрын
Thank you for the video! I have a similar problem, but I have two Jackery Explorer 2000 Plus generators (with 4 expansion batteries) connected to two Jackery 200W Solar Panels each (4 total). I combine the two solar generators using the "Jackery Connector" (I know, terrible name for the connector) to get 240V output to supply the necessary voltage for my water well. Similar to the solar generator in your video, the Jackery Explorer 2000 Plus Solar Generators disable the 240V output when charging them from AC power. The 240V stays on when charging from Solar Panels. This isn't at my home, but out at my ranch (offgrid/rugged) - So, to charge the units when the sun is blocked or it is night, I purchased a Champion 11,000W gas/propane generator. I then discovered (when trying to charge the Jackery Solar Generators) that the Jackery Solar Generators will not charge from a dirty power source (they shut off AC power input). So I purchased a WEN 3600W dual fuel pure sinewave inverter generator to charge the two Jackery Solar Generators. I then found that the Jackery Solar Generators do not have a way to throttle the charge rate when connected to AC (there is a quiet mode), which exceed the capacity of the 3600W WEN (I can only charge one solar generator at a time). Its like every solution brings a new problem on and on and on... I have ordered the EG4 based on your video. I hope to connect it to the Champion Dual Fuel Generator so that I can charge both Jackery Solar Generators at the same time (though, for the price of the EG4, I could have bought a second WEN generator, but then I would double my propane use... Well... The Champion generator probably uses 2x the fuel as the efficient WEN already, but at least I will only need to start one generator, instead of two... I hope..). Now, after watching your video on the Jackery Explorer 5000 Plus (5K), I am thinking of buying that, using one of the Jackery Explorer 2000 Plus (2K) units to charge the 5k, using the second 2k to charge the first 2k (or maybe use it somewhere else), tossing out the Jackery Connector completely, using the EG4 to charge the 2k from the Champion 11,000W generator. But, maybe doing it like this, I could just use the WEN 3600. I have wasted SOOO much time, effort, and money learning what the Jackery User Manual should have clearly stated right at the start.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Ай бұрын
Thats a huge whole process to find out they don't charge! Frustrating!
@jeremytaylor2365
@jeremytaylor2365 Ай бұрын
Just awesome! Great video!
2 ай бұрын
A 3kW telecom rectifier.....or maybe two of them in parallel.... Maybe try the Huawei R4850G2 or similar... You can get them for like $100. Can be canbus controlled very simply
@rodneyhunt
@rodneyhunt 2 ай бұрын
Man good work! We have to do things different sometimes to reach our goals. Good idea!
@Huiando
@Huiando 16 күн бұрын
Thank you for the video! Is there any update on the parallel charging from Anker?
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 16 күн бұрын
Nothing so far.... 😔
@Huiando
@Huiando 16 күн бұрын
Thank you. I got a pretty sizable Solix set and I guess I can just have two chargeverters to get 2800w but it would be nice to get by with only one. Is there some ticket or customer request we can plus one or you are taking with them purely in private?
@PrestoMoto02
@PrestoMoto02 25 күн бұрын
I was wondering why my f3800 was getting a little more solar input. Thanks man! 17:35
@inworcester
@inworcester 2 ай бұрын
Would it have worked at 240volts if you had left the dog bone adapter with the 240 volt female end on it the way it comes from Amazon? I always thought the purpose for those three prong to four prong adapters was so you could go from TT-30P to L14-30R. I have the Echo Flow Duel Fuel 4000 and was planning on purchasing one of those adapters so I could connect to my Reliance Controls PB30 NEMA 3R Power Inlet Box with a standard L14-30 generator cable.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Ай бұрын
The modifications to the 120v cable are required. It doesn't power up with the Amazon dog bog adapter since it's not wired properly. You'll have to wire it according to the owners manual (the way showed in the video).
@inworcester
@inworcester Ай бұрын
@@Jasonoid Thank you and great video BTW.
@kiberkli
@kiberkli 2 ай бұрын
I tried this on a smaller scale, on a C1000 with two different power supplies. In both cases the power supplies shut down as the C1000 pulled more wattage than the power supplies were rated for. It would be nice to get this to work though.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 2 ай бұрын
The chargeverter is rated for 5000w output, if definitely wouldn't be overloaded by the C1000 or the F3800....even at the same time!
@Thorthedognj
@Thorthedognj 2 ай бұрын
show how u hooked the battery to the eco flow please
@DVLITTLEPILOT
@DVLITTLEPILOT 2 ай бұрын
Quick Question If two F3800's are hooked up with the Anker Smart Panel is there still a charge issue trying to charge the two F3800 with AC with a Gen available ?
@davidparsons5513
@davidparsons5513 2 ай бұрын
I posed this to Anker support. My solution, which they said will work fine as long as the genny has a very low THD or is an inverter type, is to wire up the F3800s with the Home Smart Panel like usual, but also install a generator input and interlock on your main breaker box. When the F3800s are getting low on power, plug in the genny, flip the interlock to genny input. The genny will now supply power to the house, the F3800s will go back into standby and charge from the genny. When fully charged, turn off the genny and the F3800s will come online to provide power. Another advantage to this is when the genny is running, it will power the high demand devices that you did not cut over to the transfer switch.
@michaelsmith2039
@michaelsmith2039 Ай бұрын
@@davidparsons5513 Do you have solar input to the power stations as well? If so, what panels and configuration did you opt to go with?
@davidparsons5513
@davidparsons5513 Ай бұрын
@@michaelsmith2039 Currently no solar input unless I pull the F3800 out for standalone use. For that I have a pair of 200w (400w total) Anker portables.
@DVLITTLEPILOT
@DVLITTLEPILOT Ай бұрын
@@davidparsons5513 I will have a answer in the next few weeks I only have inverter style Gens
@michaelsmith2039
@michaelsmith2039 Ай бұрын
​@@davidparsons5513 Thanks for the reply. I plan to run some fixed BLUESUN panels (BSM460M-72HBD) from 2x outdoor shade structures to my Ankers in addition to the grid tie in with the HPP. I am also adding a lockout switch and external inverter generator for when I need to cover home power and rapidly recharge batteries.
@Scat.original
@Scat.original Ай бұрын
Great Video Tutorial Thank You
@copisetic1104
@copisetic1104 2 ай бұрын
It’s basically a big rectifier
@martyupton6907
@martyupton6907 Ай бұрын
Great video! Thank you for going over the chargeverter and wiring in detail. I have been looking for a solution to take dirty power from a Costco Firman tri fuel generator that only has 1 hour of run time without having to go through the trouble of selling it and getting a inverter generator. Do you think this setup would work for charging the Bluetti AC500 with the correct connections?
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Ай бұрын
Yes, it should also work for that same purpose on the AC500
@nicepark2115
@nicepark2115 20 күн бұрын
I have a similar setup with a Firman tri-fuel generator and AC200MAX. I believe this solution will work. The only question is if we need limit the power out on EG4 Chargevert to charge Bluetti (in my case 900W Max).
@TheSolarLab
@TheSolarLab Ай бұрын
That power station looks hunnnggrrrryyyyy
@danv71678
@danv71678 Ай бұрын
could i use the eg4 charger to charge a couple 48v server rack batteries then have them charge the f3800 so i could run my generator for less time. lile charge 2 server rack batteries then shut off my generator and let those charge my f3800
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Ай бұрын
Yep, that's another way to do it! 👍
@fromcitytowild
@fromcitytowild 2 ай бұрын
That would be awesome if you sold those DIY connectors!
@nicepark2115
@nicepark2115 20 күн бұрын
Hi Jason, thank you for the awesome video again! I have been searching for a solution to charge my Bluetti AC200MAX with a gas generator directly, and this seems to be the best solution. My question is: do I need to adjust any power output settings on the EG4 Chargeverter? The maximum solar input for the AC200MAX is 900W. I apologize for going off-topic here.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 19 күн бұрын
This will work in the same fashion for charging the AC200max. Similar settings should be fine. It will charge a little slower than what is shown in this video. The AC200max has a 15 amp input limit so the charging speed will be around 800 watts around 54v (54v X 15a = 810)
@nicepark2115
@nicepark2115 19 күн бұрын
@@Jasonoid Thank you very much for the confirmation and your calculation is bang on! Are there menu options on the EG4 Chargeverter to set the voltage and the amperage for the AC200max specific?
@AdamDeLayDIY
@AdamDeLayDIY 2 ай бұрын
Interesting idea. While I don't like it, I get why the 240v outlet shuts off because typically when you're on AC IN power, it just passes power through the power station to handle the loads and any excess power goes into the battery. Have you charged the power station up to 100% with the chargeverter? I know that some MPPTs short the positive and negative connections together when the battery gets full and charging is supposed to stop. If that happened in this case, I would assume that the breaker on the chargeverter would just trip, but I would hate for something to short out completely.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 2 ай бұрын
I have never heard of the postive and negative being shorted out when it's finished charging. That would lead to bad things, even with solar panels! The charging process is controlled with a relay to turn it on and off.
@AdamDeLayDIY
@AdamDeLayDIY 2 ай бұрын
@@Jasonoid that’s actually how Victron charge controllers work. It’s not an issue for solar panels but If you try to connect a battery or other charger to the mppt, it can go poof! Since the solar panel is essentially “shorted” to itself, no power is generated or harnessed from the sun. The photovoltaic cells within the panel cannot convert sunlight into electricity because the circuit is closed.
@rpsmith
@rpsmith 2 ай бұрын
@@AdamDeLayDIY -- Please provide a google search string for where you got that Victron information. I think you have been misled.
@AdamDeLayDIY
@AdamDeLayDIY Ай бұрын
@@rpsmith it looks like YT is removing my post because there’s a link in it. While Victron doesn’t detail exactly how their mppts work, there’s been lots of comments on the Victron community forum about this. Also, if you google “Victron mppt troubleshooting” you should be able to look at their troubleshooting guide. Go to section 6.10 on error codes and look at error code 38. It talks about the positive and negative shorting together.
@lamesadave
@lamesadave Ай бұрын
i am a newby here but if you have solar and are getting a 48v battery anyway, a hybrid inverter like the EG4 EVH 3000 might be a better add since it is not that much more than the price of the chargeverter and can accept more solar to charge the system through the 48v battery.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Ай бұрын
This is for people who bought the Anker power station off the Kickstarter not knowing it wouldn't have 240v, or when they purchased it from another review on youtube who didn't disclose the issue. This is a way to get what they have working properly. If you don't already have an Anker F3800, just go with a full DIY 48v system 👍
@lamesadave
@lamesadave Ай бұрын
I am one of those early buyers, trying to make the best of the F3800 in light of the 60v charging limit.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Ай бұрын
@@lamesadave if you connect a 48v battery to the DC charging port, you can use any charge controller to charge that 48v battery. I have a full video on that topic as well from a couple months back.
@lamesadave
@lamesadave Ай бұрын
@@Jasonoid Yes, thank you. I saw that excellent prior video. Is am now trying to decide between the $400 EG4 charger controller and the $764 EG4 EVH3000 which gives me an extra 120v inverter along with a charge controller.
@jameshoien1563
@jameshoien1563 2 ай бұрын
I have one F3800 connected to the Anker Home Power Panel to provide grid failure backup power. It seems to me that when the F3800 is connected to the home power panel it disables any other way to charge it other than through the grid. I am having a very hard time getting questions answered from Anker. My question is, if the F3800 is connected to the home power panel or to the Solix double power hub, are the solar charge inputs enabled?
@hinesmt
@hinesmt 2 ай бұрын
Another vote for this question. This was my plan but now I’m hesitant.
@DVLITTLEPILOT
@DVLITTLEPILOT 2 ай бұрын
I asked same Question : Quick Question If two F3800's are hooked up with the Anker Smart Panel is there still a charge issue trying to charge the two F3800 with AC with a Gen available ?
@jameshoien1563
@jameshoien1563 2 ай бұрын
@@DVLITTLEPILOT In the research I have done it is NOT possible to charge the F3800 with AC when it is hooked up to home power panel
@jameshoien1563
@jameshoien1563 2 ай бұрын
@@hinesmt I originally bought the F3800 and home power panel to provide backup for the short 2 hour power outages we have been having. For that purpose, it works great. However, there seem to be quite a few ,limitations when you hook the F3800 up to home power panel; like it shuts off every other port in or out.
@testchannelcomments8219
@testchannelcomments8219 2 ай бұрын
I believe the solar inputs still work, just not the a/c input. Will try to verify tomorrow
@joemayberry5518
@joemayberry5518 25 күн бұрын
Wondering if my old goal zero Yeti fast charger will solve this issue. Just need an Andersen Power pole adapter to XT60. Should make it think it's getting solar.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 23 күн бұрын
Its best to use something like this instead: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJalqWpmfJeabNU
@oobee8163
@oobee8163 18 күн бұрын
Hi Jason, you recommended 6 gauge quick connectors but the chargeverter wire is 4 gauge what is your suggestion to step down the wire gauge? Since the connectors are 6 gauge and the wires are 4, I'm having trouble making them fit enough to crimp them.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 18 күн бұрын
Trim off some of the 4awg strands so they fit into the smaller 6awg terminals. Since there isn't much amperage flowing through these wires you are safe to make these changes.
@oobee8163
@oobee8163 6 күн бұрын
@@Jasonoid It worked, ty!
@BoDiddly
@BoDiddly 24 күн бұрын
Shouldn't your Neutral have been directly across from your ground to match what you said was in the 240v plug (ground and neutral directly across from each other, two hots directly across from each other)?
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 23 күн бұрын
I wired it exactly as stated in the user manual of the EG4 Chargeverter. Any other wiring the unit wouldn't power up. Its a custom wiring for some reason...
@jasonhitton9149
@jasonhitton9149 8 күн бұрын
looking for lifepo4 battery, powering anker f3800-is there a video of that anywhere?
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 8 күн бұрын
I have a couple videos on that topic: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jnfPg56Dop2lesU kzbin.info/www/bejne/b4Cnenloesumi6M
@stevenlilly
@stevenlilly 2 ай бұрын
Even better, get you a 48v Chins/Enjoybot/etc battery for more capacity and use the chargeverter to charge that battery... The chargeverter is quite expensive for a DC charger alone.. You can grab 60v SMPS all day long for $150 or so that are rated to 2000w.. Could have got 2 for less than the Chargeverter.. 😎
@testchannelcomments8219
@testchannelcomments8219 2 ай бұрын
I've heard that a lot of these smaller ones either cannot be fed by a generator or they over heat and cannot run continuously for long periods of time. Please suggest one if you know one that will.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 2 ай бұрын
I suggested using a 48v battery as a DIY expansion battery in this video since you can charge the 48v battery with whatever charging source, not limited to 60v. The chargeverter is even better then as you mentioned! kzbin.info/www/bejne/jnfPg56Dop2lesU
@JimmyPhones1
@JimmyPhones1 2 ай бұрын
The problem with those power supplies is their very low Power Factor. The chargeverter has a very high power factor. When you run the SMPS power supply at 1150W off of 120V AC input, you actually are pulling about 18A instead of the 9-10 you would expect.
@AntneR1
@AntneR1 Ай бұрын
Really enjoy your content. Was hoping you could answer this question? I have the typical HPP and F3800 setup. I removed 15 critical circuits from my main panel and moved them to the Eaton subpanel. Installed 90 amp breaker in main panel to feed Anker HPP with F3800 attached to it. If I isolate the main panel by turning off the 90 amp breaker to the HPP, will I be able to charge my F3800 with its 120V power cord(with clean sine wave power) and still send power to my subpanel? I'm aware that the 240V outlet disconnects if you try to power F3800 with power cord. I ask because I wasn't aware until recently that you need an inverter generator to charge up the F3800 and I only have a Firman 7500W Dual Fuel generator that backfeeds into my main panel. Instead of spending $465 on a chargeverter that will only give me 1150W via solar port I hoping buying a 2000W quiet inverter generator that outputs 1800W thru the F3800 power cord for the same money would be a better move. What do you think?
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Ай бұрын
You can always try it out to see what happens. I'm not sure how every single scenario would work on this product I can't say either it would work or not.
@robertfitch1625
@robertfitch1625 Ай бұрын
Can you use this on a standard 15A 120v circuit/plug with the correct adapter?
@dieselguy440
@dieselguy440 Ай бұрын
I would also like to use a small Honda 2200i inverter to do this.
@joshshroll497
@joshshroll497 18 күн бұрын
I wired this up as you showed in the video. It worked great with just using one of the XT60 pigtails but when I connect to a 2nd F3800 the voltage drops, the chargeverter fans really kick on and it will only draw a few hundred watts a piece. Any thoughts ? Is the cable not large enough ? Or is it something with the chargeverter ?
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 17 күн бұрын
For two F3800s you'll need to set the amperage to 50 amps instead of 25 amps seen in the video. Each power station pulls 25 amps.
@joshshroll497
@joshshroll497 17 күн бұрын
Great thank you 👍
@Ghost_of_Matair
@Ghost_of_Matair Ай бұрын
The Jackery explorer 5000 plus seems to have a similar limitation with the input amperage through a single port. would it be possible to have a test of the jackery's low pv ports done to see if it rejects Y splitting of the input?
@psm2000ut
@psm2000ut Ай бұрын
This is great. I’m going to follow this. Q: where and how do you use the fuse? I do not see it in the video! Also is there a way to just join ring terminals without cutting the provided wire? Thanks.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Ай бұрын
The fuse can be on the positive output wire of the Chargeverter for extra safety if you want. The Chargeverter has a built in DC circuit breaker and the power station has short circuit protection so it's probably not needed.
@robertfitch1625
@robertfitch1625 Ай бұрын
I'm looking at using a smart Nema 14-50 splitter/switch to use one outlet for my Level 2 EV charger as well as the chargeverter. Does the chargeverter switch stay in the "on" position? That way it will turn itself on and start charging as soon as the EV is finished.
@criticalhadlock886
@criticalhadlock886 Ай бұрын
Jason, will you do the same video and show the same process for how to modify the chargeverter’s output to be compatible for the ecoflow delta pro ultra ? Basically, how do you get the chargeverter’s output to go to MC4 cables.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Ай бұрын
The Delta Pro Ultra can just charge straight from a generator and get 240v output at the same time. No chargeverter needed.
@criticalhadlock886
@criticalhadlock886 Ай бұрын
But what about the “dirty” potentially non-pure sine wave energy from a standard generator. Wouldn’t the chargverter make sense there? I can understand skipping the chargverter if I had an inverter generator. But a standard generator makes me a little nervous to charge my DPU directly
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Ай бұрын
@@criticalhadlock886 in that case, yes this would work on the low PV input for about 800 watts charging. I wish the Delta Ultra had a higher amperage input for the low PV, but it's only 15 amps. So it would charge a bit slower than the Anker power station. It might be better instead spending the $500 getting a decent dual fuel pulsar gx400bn inverter generator vs the chargeverter. 800w is pretty slow charging for the Ultra.
@criticalhadlock886
@criticalhadlock886 Ай бұрын
@@Jasonoid That is an excellent point. I don't know why I hadn't considered that 🤪. Sometimes you get so focused in on something that you can't see the forest through the trees.
@JimBarnett-v3z
@JimBarnett-v3z Ай бұрын
To connect Chargeverter to f3800 could I use an XT60 to O Ring Terminal Cable (XT60 Female to M8 O Ring Eyelet Terminal Plug) by replacing the ring terminals with an Anderson connector? It would not have the anti-spark or be able to plug into both XT 60 ports if done this way.
@garriyshteynberg670
@garriyshteynberg670 25 күн бұрын
Where does the online fuse go? And is it necessary?
@testchannelcomments8219
@testchannelcomments8219 2 ай бұрын
I have seen a couple people build this system with 2 bus bars instead of cutting the included cords for new adapters. Just put the chargeverter o-ring onto the bus bars with 2 o-ring to xt60 coming of the bus bar to the 3800's. Would there be any issues with this set up? I think 1 had a 90amp breaker feeding the red lines.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 2 ай бұрын
Even if you used two separate buss bars the grounds would still be the same since they are coming from the chargeverter as a source. If you wanted to charge with double the speed I think you'd have to have two chargeverters, each one connected independently.
@testchannelcomments8219
@testchannelcomments8219 2 ай бұрын
@@Jasonoid Thanks for the reply. I more so meant as a means to not have to cut up all the wires and add the different plug types/adapters.
@adassociates8235
@adassociates8235 Ай бұрын
Look like same setup can be used on Jackery 5000 plus:-)
@rcguymike
@rcguymike 2 ай бұрын
Sad if you consider that a Delta3 plus can charge nearly as fast as that anker setup😅😅😅 I control a 48V relay to feed power to my Delta 2 Max from my 48V server rack battery, I moved all the solar off of the D2M and added it to a Victron 100/20. I can charge my Delta 2 Max with 2 EBs with 4000+watts of solar, I also have another array on a 150/70, the battery absorbs the excess while the D2M takes in 1000W continuously. The relay is controlled based on the battery SOC through a node red script controlling the relay output on the CerboGX, much better than using the built in MPPTs directly with the solar.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 2 ай бұрын
Thats an awesome setup!
@colindixon2353
@colindixon2353 2 ай бұрын
so my plan was to use the EG4 chargeverter to charge on one dc input and have another eg4 chargeverter pluged in on the other input and running off another generator that way they dont share the same ground
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 2 ай бұрын
I mean that might work....but that's like $1000 worth of chargers! It all depends on how much money you want to spend
@colindixon2353
@colindixon2353 Ай бұрын
@@Jasonoid I decided to buy 2 EG4 48v server rack batteries and run through the solar inputs ,Thank You Jason
@rambocall9300
@rambocall9300 21 күн бұрын
if i connect the f3800 with the eg4 to a hot tub and charge it at the same time in a home wall outlet
@metea8271
@metea8271 Ай бұрын
Expensive Band Aid.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Ай бұрын
Agreed, but many people bought these without knowing this was a problem.
@davidgeorge7443
@davidgeorge7443 Ай бұрын
Found this on Amazon: NEMA 5-15P to L14-30R Power Adapter Cord, 5-15 Male Plug to 4 Prong Female Receptacle Twist Lock, Generator to House Inlet Box. Would that work instead of building your own?
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Ай бұрын
You could test it, if it doesn't work you could return it and build your own. The off the shelf adapters I tried didn't work. The wiring is not a traditional setup
@JuanRodriguez-bv8pd
@JuanRodriguez-bv8pd Ай бұрын
Can you make a video for the solar panel
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Ай бұрын
Here's the video you want! kzbin.info/www/bejne/jnfPg56Dop2lesU
@LamoidZombieDog
@LamoidZombieDog 2 ай бұрын
Ive been looking for a while at AC to 48V DC Power supplies so that i could do this, and i knew that id have to have two isolated inputs for both XT60 Ports, But i have an update to my F3800 which says Updated MPPT Charging Strategy. not sure if its what i think it is, but i hope they made it so i can use the same DC Source on both XT60 Inputs. that would be great since this Chargeverter supports 5KW, so id be able to hit 4800W of input between both of my F3800's on a single Chargeverter.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 2 ай бұрын
@@LamoidZombieDog I'm working with them to make a firmware update, we will see! Looks promising 👍👍
@shelley131
@shelley131 2 ай бұрын
I have the eg4 server rack battery and inverter and am lacking solar panels and space needed to require the 120V needed for charging. So I purchased the Victron PPT 150/35 to charge and maintain the battery with 400W of solar. I had been thinking of buying the EG4 chargeverter to use with my Honda 2200 companion but also want to do other projects using lighter and smaller 12v batteries instead 48v more for portability . Do you know if the charverter is strictly for 48V only? If not my other choice would be the BeeBad charger which I can select 12V or 48. I love the adapters you made. I need to break down and buy tools required for cutting and crimping. As always a great great video. Thank you.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 2 ай бұрын
It's only supports 45-58 volts output. Check the manual for the exact voltage.
@shelley131
@shelley131 2 ай бұрын
@@Jasonoid Thank you.
@maksymmoros555
@maksymmoros555 Ай бұрын
Crazy idea... Can you wire the two XT60 inputs in series and charge the F3800 at 120V DC with one Chargeverter? If this is possible then it would also allow you to use a 120V solar array (gamechanger)
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Ай бұрын
Nah, the solar ports only take 60v input limit and the chargeverters don't accept a series wiring. Would have been sweet though!
@maksymmoros555
@maksymmoros555 Ай бұрын
@Jasonoid I reached out to Anker asking the same thing. Their response was... Interesting. They said they "don't recommend wiring the XT60 ports in series". Definitely not a flat no... Out of curiosity, what does the chargeverter have to do with my question? Maybe I didn't explain myself well. What I meant is, hypothetically: chargeverter set to 120v output over one cable. That single cable connects to both XT60 ports in series. I.e. distributing 60v to each XT60 port (ideally). Obviously the impedance across both XT60 ports would have to be identical to each other, otherwise you could get, for example, 50v and 70v. I assume behind the curtains the XT60 ports should have the same impedance, I just don't have an F3800 handy to test the theory.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Ай бұрын
@maksymmoros555 chargeverter only goes to 58v Anker will fry if you put more than 60v on a DC solar port.
@jimquitshowingmyname962
@jimquitshowingmyname962 Ай бұрын
Can you connect in non-anker batteries into the battery expansion ports?
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Ай бұрын
No, it only supports Anker batteries. However, you can use standalone batteries to extend the runtime like shown in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qnyXe36jm9OXnpo
@timolando
@timolando Ай бұрын
Does the EcoFlow delta pro 3 also need this? I was under the impression that it would charge at 120v while outputting 240v?
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Ай бұрын
Delta Pro 3 doesn't need this 👍
@JimBarnett-v3z
@JimBarnett-v3z Ай бұрын
I assume you need to set the voltage and amps to the 32-60 v and max 25 amp required on the Anker f3800. Is that correct? I would be inputting 120 volt a/c.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Ай бұрын
I'd recommend setting the voltage to the setting in the video. The amperage can be set to 27 amps (upgrading the firmware on your Anker F3800 allows for 27 amps, vs the previous 25 amps).
@JimEdds
@JimEdds Ай бұрын
So with AC charging the 3800 AC outputs still work? Just the 240 out that doesn't work?
@testchannelcomments8219
@testchannelcomments8219 Ай бұрын
Correct
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Ай бұрын
Correct, the 240v outlets shut off with AC charging.
@JimEdds
@JimEdds Ай бұрын
@@testchannelcomments8219 thanks! That saved me a lot of money & time. We can live without the 240 with fans and hanging clothes out to dry like the 60s. 2400 watts of solar is almost 5K!!
@rubena6388
@rubena6388 Ай бұрын
When AC charging, does it also shut off the 120V output?
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Ай бұрын
No, but it's limited to 1440w.
@jimfields9491
@jimfields9491 2 ай бұрын
So can the EG4 be plugged into a standard 120 outlet? Like a 200-400 watt outlet in the bed of a Tacoma?
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 2 ай бұрын
Nah, it's not meant for such a low power plug. Something like this would work way better connected to your battery: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJalqWpmfJeabNU
@Moes_Prep_and_Tech
@Moes_Prep_and_Tech 2 ай бұрын
Would the Setup for using the Chargeverter to the Delta Pro Ultra be somewhat the same? A friend of mine wants to use a Generator (with modified Sine wave) to charge the DPU on Cloudy days.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 2 ай бұрын
Yes, it would be similar to the Anker, but the Delta Pro Ultra will only charge around 800 watts (not 1150w) input since it's limited to 15 amps on the low PV input.
@Moes_Prep_and_Tech
@Moes_Prep_and_Tech 2 ай бұрын
@@Jasonoid From a Gas Generator??? Are you Serious? If that's the case dc to dc would be better
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 2 ай бұрын
@@Moes_Prep_and_Tech yep, just do the math. 56v x 15 amps is 840w. You'd get the same charging speed with a 48v battery. I connect a 48v battery every night to my low PV charging port on my Ultra and I get 800w charging. I wish it was 20 amps, not 15...
@joshshroll497
@joshshroll497 25 күн бұрын
It was mentioned but did not see any specifics. Has anyone tried using this with O rings and bus bar ? Any issues with that ?
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 23 күн бұрын
I don't see an issue with using a busbar.
@Deagle367
@Deagle367 Ай бұрын
Can you limit the current to 20 amps, my power station solar input has a max of 20 amps only?
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Ай бұрын
Yes, the output is adjustable. Your power station probably doesn't need this though.... This is meant to fix the Anker F3800 only.
@k7cfo
@k7cfo Ай бұрын
Is there an all in one unit to supply my garage with 240 and 110, charged by solar and grid?
@robertfitch1625
@robertfitch1625 Ай бұрын
Can you make an adapter to allow it to plug into a nema 14-50 plug?
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Ай бұрын
I don't see why that wouldn't work, you can probably find that adapter on Amazon too!
@deeveloper2567
@deeveloper2567 10 күн бұрын
So is there a system out there that does everthing the Anker SOLIX F3800 does and doesn't have this 120v recharge problem ?
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 10 күн бұрын
The Ecoflow Delta Pro Ultra is the only option right now. Is the best system available but it's more pricey. I've used my DPU non stop for about 1 year straight, no issues. Just chugs along!
@deeveloper2567
@deeveloper2567 10 күн бұрын
@@Jasonoid I did some research on the EFDPU and came across this answer from the ECOflow team on the Home Depot website "Yes, you can charge the Delta Pro Ultra (DPU) using a non-inverter equipped Honda 6500 ES gasoline generator. Connect the generator to the DPU using the AC Generator Charging Adapter at the 5+8 interface for 120V or 240V input. Please note that when using 120V input from the generator, the AC OUTPUT of the DPU will be closed. Jul 1, 2024" This says it has the same problem as the F3800........
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 10 күн бұрын
@@deeveloper2567 nah, I do it all the time. That's outdated information. I have a review video where I show it working. I wouldn't trust homedepot for power station information. I also use my DPU everyday so I have experience with it.
@deeveloper2567
@deeveloper2567 10 күн бұрын
@@Jasonoid Since it was from the ECOflow team just last July, I took their word. I believe you're doing what you say, but it would be nice to see some documentation from them as well. I will contact them through their website. Thanks
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 10 күн бұрын
@@deeveloper2567 of just watch it in action here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sGaUlqF3e9t6l5Ysi=m3sgDiSWhh7sOJhJ
@OdessaBill
@OdessaBill Ай бұрын
Just to be clear, are you jamming 4awg into the 6awg terminals? I’m a bit confused.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Ай бұрын
Yep, because they don't offer 4awg terminals with the SB50 connection. It will be fine with the loads I'm running. As long as you are aware of your wiring and it's ampacity it will be safe.
@OdessaBill
@OdessaBill Ай бұрын
On that same note: are you jamming two 10 gauge wires (from the XT-90) into a single 8 gauge terminal? The SB50 only accepts a single terminal, right?
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Ай бұрын
@@OdessaBillyes, they fit well, I wouldn't consider it jamming them in there.
@ArthriticAngler
@ArthriticAngler 2 ай бұрын
Great video. A lot of folks will use this for emergency backup, possibly with an additional 48v battery. I wonder the pros and cons of just using a standard inverter for a dit setup? Looking to start a 1-1/2 hp well. Will have to measure amps first.
@Sylvan_dB
@Sylvan_dB 2 ай бұрын
Does the solar input wattage accept the maximum from the EG4 Chargeverter? Sounds like no. Does the solar input wattage accept as many watts as the inverter can supply or what percentage of the output can it charge? Sounds like a small fraction.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 2 ай бұрын
Solar port is 1200w per port, you can get 1150 watts into the port with the chargeverter. They said they are looking into a firmware update to allow charging on both ports for around 2400w input.
@footmantheman
@footmantheman Ай бұрын
How do I purchase the cables for 120v standard input and xt90 or xt60 output? You have the skills necessary to do the DIY.
@TristenHernandez
@TristenHernandez 4 күн бұрын
Is there a cheaper alternative?
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 4 күн бұрын
Not that I can find right now.
@superspeeder
@superspeeder 2 ай бұрын
Can this EG4 charger be programmed to charge EG4 batteries overnight (TOU) and to a specific state of charge? If so, it’s what I’m looking for to run my house on a UPS style setup, only using grid power to top up my batteries overnight on days when solar couldn’t keep up.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 2 ай бұрын
You set the voltage to exactly what you want so if you have the battery voltage you want I'd say so 👍
@superspeeder
@superspeeder 2 ай бұрын
@@Jasonoid nice! Any insight on whether you can set the desired time of charging to come on automatically? I had a peek at the spec sheet and there was no mention of that.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 2 ай бұрын
No, it's pretty much an 'on or off' type of thing. No advanced settings.
@JimEdds
@JimEdds Ай бұрын
So you can get 2400 watts charging with this setup?
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Ай бұрын
Not currently, can't charge on the XT60 ports with the same source.
@JimEdds
@JimEdds Ай бұрын
@ but two LiFePO battery chargers connected to a Honda Generator would work or is that considered a common ground? Next time I'm at CES in Vegas I'll stop by the Anker booth and ask them what they recommend
@unijabnx2000
@unijabnx2000 2 ай бұрын
Surprised you didnt get two chargeverters to test both inputs on the one anker that you have.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 2 ай бұрын
Might be worth a shot...But that's like $1000 worth of chargers!
@unijabnx2000
@unijabnx2000 2 ай бұрын
oh thats crazy, but in theory if you ever got a 2nd anker you might be able to charge both port on both ankers
@stephanandrade4812
@stephanandrade4812 2 ай бұрын
Can you do this with the old school Delta Pro?
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 2 ай бұрын
You'd just plug in a generator into the Delta Pro and it will charge and allow AC out. No chargeverter needed.
@stevenlilly
@stevenlilly 2 ай бұрын
Yes you can, and it is preferred.. You can connect the Delta Pro directly via AC input to a generator as Jason stated, but you are then limited to 1800w and quite a few people had issues with frying their DP when a fridge or something with a high inrush turned on... Poof.. You can get 2000w power supplies that will work just the same for around $150..
@stephanandrade4812
@stephanandrade4812 Ай бұрын
@@stevenlilly Can you provide an example of the power supplies that would work?
@OptimalTraining
@OptimalTraining 2 ай бұрын
That's a fantastic idea! Please continue sharing these instructional videos.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! I'm glad you liked it.
@spicethewolf8694
@spicethewolf8694 2 ай бұрын
This seems like a really cool idea to me. but honestly id rather you use a power supply from meanwell with variable voltage to do the same thing for a lot less but this is a very nice pre packaged form of charging. for really big power stations it makes a bit of sense but for smaller ones not so much. more excuses to own more chargeverters :P
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Ай бұрын
You are going to have to spend $400+ on a converter that will handle 1200w continously without burning up. High amps = high cost.
@dannydivine7699
@dannydivine7699 2 ай бұрын
To bad EG4 doesn't supply the 120 volt adapter, I have a plasma cutter that will run on either voltage, and it had the necessary adapter in the box with it! The EG4 chargeverter would actually be a better investment than say a 30A 48 Volt charger from the LiFePo4 battery mfg, when their 30A charger is $300 bucks, Right?
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 2 ай бұрын
I tried a standard 48v battery charger on the Anker and it didn't work. It wouldn't start charging. A standard battery charger relies on a voltage to tell when to charge and it doesn't see that on the solar port. The chargeverter just puts out a set voltage, kinda like a large power supply and that's why it works.
@dannydivine7699
@dannydivine7699 2 ай бұрын
@@Jasonoid So you don't think it would work as a battery charger then?? I was planning to expand the capacity of my C1000 using a 48v 30aH battery then maybe paralleling another on if it turned out I need that much battery capacity, but I need an efficient way to recharge the batts if solar isn't available, and figured the chargeverter would minimize the run time on a generator
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 2 ай бұрын
@@dannydivine7699 the chargeverter is a 48v battery charger so yes it will work for that. It also works when connected to the F3800. Just don't try to do the same thing seen in the video with a standard 48v battery charger.
@dannydivine7699
@dannydivine7699 2 ай бұрын
@@Jasonoid Excellent, Thanks for the clarification, I thought maybe I had misunderstood. Great Video as ALWAYS! Have a great weekend, Happy Halloween!!
@AskIveSolar
@AskIveSolar 2 ай бұрын
Man, did job finding a solution but this went over my head and that's ok. Haha
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 2 ай бұрын
@@AskIveSolar just think of it as a large AC to DC converter. Takes AC power and connects to the DC input. Like a huge solar panel array.
@michaelsmith2039
@michaelsmith2039 Ай бұрын
I picked up a 2nd F3800 with expansion battery and a HPP that I will be installing to replace my current manual cutover using the 240V outlet. Additionally, looking to install solar input via fixed panel mounted to a pergola. Regarding the solar input what type of panels and configuration is recommended via the xt60 ports? Did the panel recommendations change from this earlier video? kzbin.info/www/bejne/jnfPg56Dop2lesUsi=u1P_PilLwSdKnIyl Unsure as to whether I should get bi/mono facial, wattage, etc. If I have understood correctly, if using the HPP and a generator cutover switch it will charge the unit and supply power via the standby generator during times when F3800 batteries are exhausted in lieu of using the chargeverter. What about the HPP needing power to run and regulate when only using the F3800's during the cutover to external standby generator? I assume this will be supplied from the portable stations as well as providing power to the home loads.
@markclark692
@markclark692 Ай бұрын
OR you could just plug your generator into your house panel and charge the Anker from 120v outlet
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Ай бұрын
That would also work, but it would require shutting off all the loads in your house during the swap.
@MinhNguyen87556
@MinhNguyen87556 Ай бұрын
you simply trick the unit to make it think itis being charge by solar. Why don't you get a PS200 solar panel or two. How much do the chargeverter and a generator cost compare to 2 PS400 panels?
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Ай бұрын
Those Anker PS400 panels are $1000 each.... OUCH....do not buy them! I always recommend charging with solar panels first, however, when solar is not available you still need another way to charge it up. That's why I made this video. Using the Chargeverter will allow you to charge the power station at night or during a storm when solar isn't available. This video will show you how to find affordable 400w panels in your area: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pn21fJ-gn8akg6M
@davidparsons5513
@davidparsons5513 2 ай бұрын
Thanx! I saw the voltage charge levels changed with the latest upgrades, but missed that it was now as low as 15 volts. Makes non-Anker solar panel hookups easier. On the note of charging: I had my Anker set for max charge (1800w) for the 120VAC input, and plugged it in to charge. After a while, the ends of the charge cord were really hot, so I lowered the charge rate to around 800 watts. After some checking, realized the supplied charge cord only uses 14 gauge wire and I was plugged into a 15A wall outlet. At 1800 watts, you're right at the 15 amp max of both the outlet and the cord. Too close. Today I'm building a beefier cord with 12 gauge wire and 20 amp connectors to be used only on a 20 amp outlet. At 1800 watts (15A), it's now charging at 75% of the circuit rating rather than 100%.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 2 ай бұрын
I'm bummed when I see these companies saving pennies by including slightly underrated charging cables.
@Redneck_Ed
@Redneck_Ed Ай бұрын
I'm still not understanding why you couldn't just unplug the 240V line from the F3800 and run it from 240V output on the gas generator to the transfer switch. You can then charge the F3800 and power the house simultaneously, only caveat is that you need to be careful not to overload the gas generator.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Ай бұрын
You could do that, but those huge generators cost twice as much as the chargeverter. If you already have a small generator, the chargeverter will work as well.
@psm2000ut
@psm2000ut 9 күн бұрын
I was thinking of that, but can Anker F3800 take power from a regular generator w/o issues? That's the reason I am thinking of going with this solution and reading almost all the comments.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 9 күн бұрын
@@psm2000ut most power stations don't charge with non inverter generators since they output dirty power the voltage is less regulated.
@TobyCostaRica
@TobyCostaRica 2 ай бұрын
If EG4 can make a silent all in one I wouldn’t need to go to these Anker/Ecoflow stations.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 2 ай бұрын
I wish these inverter companies would care about fan noise! Maybe in the next few years.... These power stations are getting silent with their fans.
@kincheng
@kincheng 2 ай бұрын
@@Jasonoidyou can do a video swapping noctua fans into a C1000 and F2000. I’ll definitely watch it 😊
@garymcgowan4057
@garymcgowan4057 2 ай бұрын
Great idea and execution, thanks for showing and explaining it all out well. Hopefully Anker comes out with a new version that solves this issue soon.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 2 ай бұрын
I'm hoping for that!
@andrewr05
@andrewr05 2 ай бұрын
Those Chargeverters are extremely stout. 👌 I use one as the battery charger in my cabin to charge up my external DIY batteries that feed into my Bluetti.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 2 ай бұрын
That's good to hear! The thing is an absolute brick and feels super high quality. I've been impressed with my purchase for sure 👍
@criticalhadlock886
@criticalhadlock886 2 ай бұрын
Does the Ecoflow Delta Pro Ultra have the same issue? Will it still output 240 volt when AC charging ?
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 2 ай бұрын
The Delta Pro Ultra allows 120v charging and 240v output at the same time! 👍 No issues at all.
@criticalhadlock886
@criticalhadlock886 2 ай бұрын
@@Jasonoid Awesome! Thank you for confirming that with me. I thought this was the case.
@criticalhadlock886
@criticalhadlock886 2 ай бұрын
@@Jasonoid Also regarding the EF DPU, would there be a use-case scenario for the Chargeverter to "clean up" the "dirty electricity" from a gas generator? Is it worth getting the Chargeverter for that reason alone? Or is it fine to just charge the DPU directly from the gas generator?
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 2 ай бұрын
@@criticalhadlock886 I haven't seen an issue charging with my inverter generator. It might be an issue with an old school genny.
@criticalhadlock886
@criticalhadlock886 2 ай бұрын
@@Jasonoid Thank you.......Yeah, that's my point. I'm considering buying one of these instead of replacing my old school generator with an inverter generator. Excellent video by the way. I love your content and thank you for your service.
@anthonygorrell1343
@anthonygorrell1343 2 ай бұрын
Can you uncommon the ground on chargeverter ?
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 2 ай бұрын
The ports inside the F3800 would need to be ungrounded.
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