The Electric Outboard We've Been Waiting For | ALL NEW EPROPULSION X-40

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Anthony Jones

Anthony Jones

Күн бұрын

The newest high output / high horsepower electric outboard! Testing the all new electric outboard on a pontoon boat.
The EPROPULSION X-40 ⚡️⚡️⚡️
The HIGH HORSEPOWER electric outboard motor we've been waiting for.
Hey guys, I am grateful to have had the opportunity to get invited down to Ft. Lauderdale Florida to get exclusive access to the new EPROPULSION X-40 electric outboard before they released it at the Ft Lauderdale International Boat Show! I had the chance to try it out in person on a 22ft Northstar pontoon boat and get a hands-on experience with EPROPULSIONs' newest electric outboard.
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In this video, I'm going to cover EVERYTHING I learned about the outboard. Soecs and details, battery, speed, runtime, cost, what we know so far, what we don't know yet, and much, much more! I'll show my on the water experience and even get a chance to sit down with the Cofounder and CEO of EPROPULSION, Danny Tao, for a quick interview. This new 40 kilowatt (50+ horsepower) electric outboard has some interesting technology, performance, and features!!! I hope you enjoy and learn something new about the future of boating.
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Chapters:
0:00 - Intro
1:41 - X-40 Specs
2:55 - Noise Test
3:30 - X-40 Battery Specs
4:43 - X-40 Battery Cost and Comparison
5:38 - Runtime and Speed
7:04 - Charging
7:24 - Cost and Realease Date
8:50 - Demo Boat Used
9:23 - On the Water Testing
11:07 - Final Thoughts
12:07 - Danny Tao Interview

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@DistinctBlood
@DistinctBlood 2 ай бұрын
The battery technology has been the limiting factor for electric outboards, inboards and cars since about 1910. They are still very heavy and expensive per kilowatt hour of capacity compared to gasoline and diesel. The current crop of motors are plenty good in themselves, but the power cells still hold them back. Most of my power tools and my lawn mower are battery electric. I really like them. And prefer them over the older corded electric and gas power. A 30 to 50 kWh outboard would be great on my 14 foot classic fiberglass outboard runabout, but a 400 to 800 pound battery pack to run it is still to heavy for the weight capacity of the boat. 45 to 95 pounds for 1 or 2 individual 6 gallon gas tanks remains the go to configuration and provides plenty of range for the day or two of use between fill ups (or recharges). 1 gallon of gasoline is about the equivalent of 33 kWh of electric battery capacity.
@Simon-dm8zv
@Simon-dm8zv 3 күн бұрын
Except that the combustion engine cosumes 4 times as much of that energy. So the useable energy of a gallon of gasoline is only 9 kWh.
@WayneTheBoatGuy
@WayneTheBoatGuy 8 ай бұрын
Well done! Neat stuff
@coztod
@coztod 15 күн бұрын
Great video and interview. This is just a snapshot of the first iteration of these motors and systems. If I was a billionaire and was designing an unlimited budget 35 footer, I’d consider putting these 40 horse electrics between two big 300+ gas outboards in a trips setup. Having a completely redundant propulsion system would be awesome, and it would be great to use in no wake channels and docking, or fishing to just keep position. Trim the gassers up when on electric, and tilt the electric up when under gas. A bit much maybe, but rich folk do crazier shit than that in custom boats. People are putting in 500 amp hours just for a house battery setup anyway.
@HeartlandMakesAndOutdoors
@HeartlandMakesAndOutdoors Ай бұрын
How fun is that, I think the spot lock will be a game changer being built into this motor. I have some experience with a smaller kayak electric motor and enjoyed it for most of last year. Thanks for taking the time to share this with us all and congrats on this unique invite to be there for the reveal of this motor. Fun times, I agree, you will see a lot of interest if they can produce something for the smaller boats, I think there is probably more of us with the Jon boats then the larger boats, but then again, that is just me, I have not factual idea of that being the case. Again, great video and have a. blessed weekend my friend. Dale
@blacklabel810
@blacklabel810 Ай бұрын
Amazing friend, thanks for the video, very interesting, happy to see your video,👍
@crappiejoebaits1759
@crappiejoebaits1759 6 ай бұрын
I can literally buy a mercury 250 for the cost of something that is only 50 hp rating 😂😂😂 . I think ill stick with the gas motor. But dont get me wrong im sure it has its place for some people just not for me . Not only that but if you are full throttle it you might get a couple of hours on the lake . When i fish we are out for 5 or 6 hours easy and thats not counting tournaments that are 8 hours easy.
@AnthonyJonesBrigadeBoats
@AnthonyJonesBrigadeBoats 6 ай бұрын
I totally get it man. Definitely not for everyone and costly at that.
@BloodCover
@BloodCover 24 күн бұрын
5500 ain’t bad considering its torque is insane, I would build my own battery setup for way less than almost 20grand they charge and I’d love to use it for offshore trolling only
@ScarabChris
@ScarabChris 2 ай бұрын
You're in my neighborhood. I live one canal to the east. The house with the Whaler on the lift are friends of mine. I'm surprised I haven't seen this electric boat yet.
@abelincoln3261
@abelincoln3261 2 ай бұрын
The battery bank is setup according to the need.. that type hull has major drag not efficient a all. Put that motor on an efficient hull and you longer need as many batteries.
@Jax0238
@Jax0238 2 ай бұрын
Or put a third pontoon on
@cjmac4408
@cjmac4408 Ай бұрын
You can't put it in a more efficient hull. It requires 800 lbs of battery. It makes 50 hp. Lol. It's absolutely useless
@SeanOHanlon
@SeanOHanlon 14 күн бұрын
​@@Jax0238 Right, because adding a third hull wouldn't increase drag at all...
@royrunyon1286
@royrunyon1286 8 ай бұрын
What I like: heading hold, position hold, steering range which appears to reach 45 deg. left and right, integration, torque, noise level. What I'm concerned about: cost of batteries, weight of batteries, relative low energy density of batteries, outboard motor and electronics below the waterline which could make them vulnerable to leaks and damage, cost of the batteries...
@fredflintstone1428
@fredflintstone1428 7 ай бұрын
We've been making submarines for a long time now, I would have thought there must be a way to really minimise the risk of leaks but I get your point. With everything electric, it's a balance between capital cost versus the savings of fuel.
@zz7824
@zz7824 15 күн бұрын
800lbs for 10kwh of LFP batteries?!?! Anyone who knows BEV's, know that a Tesla Model 3 SR has a 55kwh LFP that weighs "only" around 1200lbs. That means if someone can integrate the battery into the hull, a 25kwh battery (2.5x the runtime) would be possible for less than 600lbs! There's still a HUGE amount of improvement available out there!
@DanWangFilms
@DanWangFilms 7 ай бұрын
I know pricing isn't available yet, but what would you guesstimate the price of the X40 or X20 package (no batteries)?
@whitetail54
@whitetail54 Ай бұрын
With all the technology we have there got to be a way to cut down on the weight maybe start thinking out of the box like maybe using the water and the sun to run the motor, there is a lot of high technology out there we just got to get a hold of it.
@OGchickentnt
@OGchickentnt 15 күн бұрын
Super cool, love to get one on a whaler
@machew2009
@machew2009 Ай бұрын
I wish I could try one of these on my 16 foot runabout fishing boat
@timlong1462
@timlong1462 2 ай бұрын
800lbs of batteries is kinda nuts. That really limits what setup you can put this on. It's a catch 22 of needing more batteries to get range, the. You have so much weight you can't plane and need a bigger motor. I bet that x40 would push a small boat fast, but you'd almost have to pick between speed and range. Even half those batteries would make it so I could only take myself and limited to 1 passenger.
@ericklein5097
@ericklein5097 Ай бұрын
Cobalt based lithium would be nearly half the weight. I'd like to see a teardown of their LiFePO4 battery. There are cobalt based lithium batteries that can get 2000+ cycles and even more if you don't cycle in the top or bottom 10%
@timlong1462
@timlong1462 Ай бұрын
@@ericklein5097that would be nice, but what is the financial cost and environmental cost of all these batteries. To me electric makes a lot of sense for cars we use daily, but a pontoon might only be taken on a small cruise once a week or even month for the majority of users. Is the amount of battery worth the small amount of gasoline that it's replacing? I just see all these batteries and materials going into something that's not going to get enough use to justify.
@snookmeister55
@snookmeister55 Ай бұрын
Great lake boat. Plug it in upon completion of trip just like always.
@BryantFarris
@BryantFarris 10 күн бұрын
​@timlong1462 gas use in lakes isn't good for the environment, oil leaks , gas leaks, gear case leaks ect. Electric motors are really efficient, and would eliminate maintenance, no need to worry about the oil changes on 4 strokes that rarely are taken out, no need to worry about plugs, or carbs, clogged fuel injectors, bad fuel from setting just slightly to long ect. Just charge and go ... simple simple as can be
@BryantFarris
@BryantFarris 10 күн бұрын
​@timlong1462 gas use in lakes isn't good for the environment, oil leaks , gas leaks, gear case leaks ect. Electric motors are really efficient, and would eliminate maintenance, no need to worry about the oil changes on 4 strokes that rarely are taken out, no need to worry about plugs, or carbs, clogged fuel injectors, bad fuel from setting just slightly to long ect. Just charge and go ... simple simple as can be
@tbnationoutdoors-nateeckhold
@tbnationoutdoors-nateeckhold 8 ай бұрын
Wink. Wink 😊
@valerianteritron4424
@valerianteritron4424 14 күн бұрын
G r e a t !!! We longed for electric motors at boats !!!
@adaminjp
@adaminjp 7 ай бұрын
Awesome video Anthony. If you end up getting one to test here in Georgia I would love to meet up with you to test it out. Keep up the great work you are the one channel that helped me make my decision to buy an epropulsion motor for my current boat. I am currently pushing a 24’ pontoon boat with a single spirit evo. I can get up to 5.5mph on the boat by myself on a calm lake here in Georgia. I would love to see what the X series can do. It would also be great if epropulsion released the screen and the electric steering for their other lines. I love my spirit evo and top mount throttle but the new screen and the electric steering have me stoked.
@KurtQuad
@KurtQuad 2 ай бұрын
Give the technology around another 5-10 years and by then you'll have solid state batteries with 2-3 times the capacity with less weight and volume and much faster charging. Throw in a Sharrow propeller and you'll have some serious range and even less noise.
@martinsv9183
@martinsv9183 20 күн бұрын
Believe it when I see it.
@Revenant_Knight
@Revenant_Knight 8 ай бұрын
I have an ePropulsion Spirit for my jon boat. It’s great but I wish they made a model like it with about twice the power, that could still use portable batteries.
@WayneTheBoatGuy
@WayneTheBoatGuy 8 ай бұрын
The “Navy” series covers that pretty well.
@Revenant_Knight
@Revenant_Knight 8 ай бұрын
@@WayneTheBoatGuy Navy series are nice, but don't use those portable batteries on the Spirit.
@JohnBraman413
@JohnBraman413 6 ай бұрын
not sure if i missed it in the video. but do these new motors have regen?
@robertheinkel6225
@robertheinkel6225 28 күн бұрын
Boats don’t coast downhill like a car. Cut the throttle and it stops.
@lumberdog198
@lumberdog198 22 күн бұрын
fish are stunned by 96 volts
@aaronparys1750
@aaronparys1750 6 күн бұрын
Cool .. just need to replace that Canopy with some Solar panels for recharging on the go !
@fredflintstone1428
@fredflintstone1428 7 ай бұрын
Great video. I'm probably in the market for an X20 or X25, preferably running at 48V, though it seems everything will be based around the 96V packs. 96V is probably a good mid-point, though 48V is favoured because of the number of solar inverters / inverters that can then power the house electrics of modern yachts and catamarans. Having the steering capabilities via a motor on the outboard and a communications cable seems so simple an idea, I'm not sure why other outboards (especially petrol ones) haven't come up with it before.
@FAKE-NAME
@FAKE-NAME 28 күн бұрын
Plastic prop on 50hp they need a metal prop. The Plastic props on the smaller outboards isn't as bad (less power to flex the prop). Even though I see performance loss with the Plastic I've seen videos of guys absolutely abusing one(lower power electric) while clearing fallen trees and branches out of their local "river/creek" and they hit stuff alot..they had to replace prop a few times but it's from chiping type damage they didn't loose a full blade like you would expect. I wonder if the higher hp/kw motor props would survive or just explode when they hit something.
@carterjohnson25
@carterjohnson25 3 ай бұрын
96v at at 40kw would be 400+ amps. How do they make that work? Anybody have insight? (Google says the Power Delivery cables would need to be 3/4 inch thick for just a 2 meter run) So stoked for this motor.
@mrsilverghost83
@mrsilverghost83 4 ай бұрын
Y cuanto vale el motor?
@dj2000lbs
@dj2000lbs 20 күн бұрын
My concern with electric boats is how do you keep the batteries at a safe temperature I mean boats can get really hot under the sun
@ericklein5097
@ericklein5097 Ай бұрын
96V @ 100A is 9.6kW. So how are we powering the 40kW motor?
@juliandrake7862
@juliandrake7862 Ай бұрын
I think it has four batteries because he said a battery weighs 220 lbs and then said 880 lbs of battery on board.
@johncarlsen3467
@johncarlsen3467 Ай бұрын
I want to know what happens when the boat capsizes? Do the batteries turn the boat into a huge tiki torch like the Tesla’s that burst into flames after flooding with salt water?
@AnthonyJonesBrigadeBoats
@AnthonyJonesBrigadeBoats Ай бұрын
Man I honestly have no idea at all. Great question though. I know most batteries are ip67 rated. I even have one lithium that can be submerged. Not sure the specs on the ones in the video.
@Obshowersyndicate
@Obshowersyndicate 14 күн бұрын
Can they make a 2stroke oil smell come outta them ? It wont feel like being on the water without it😊
@therealjasonseidel
@therealjasonseidel 2 ай бұрын
Seems like the added weight will reduce seating capacity and negatively effect handling dynamics, the cost is high, lithium ion doesn’t work well with salt water the run times are horrible. Then there’s the where to charge issues?
@AnthonyJonesBrigadeBoats
@AnthonyJonesBrigadeBoats 2 ай бұрын
Yeah man I don't make or sell them, just covering them in content. It's pretty cool from an engineering and technical stance but definitely not cost effective enough yet. Time will tell if they can get weight down, run time up, and cost down. There's definitely a lot to criticize, and true at that, but everyone has to start somewhere. It will be interesting to see where they are in 10 years, win or lose.
@SeanOHanlon
@SeanOHanlon 14 күн бұрын
Seriously??? Like there aren't electric outlets on virtually every damn dock today.
@DatBlueHusky
@DatBlueHusky 19 күн бұрын
What i noticed is with boats in general, electric is not efficient enough for them and we still need gas engines. I can only see electric be efficient for land use currently because not alot of energy is required to move on land compared to pushing water.
@jeremysims4838
@jeremysims4838 2 ай бұрын
I would run this on my reservoir boat I don’t think I’d do it on anything else.
@user-zf4qs2jy3n
@user-zf4qs2jy3n Ай бұрын
I'd like to see a hybrid set up like Edison. Smaller battery with an onboard generator.
@BKGjerdrum
@BKGjerdrum Ай бұрын
A total of 43000$ here in sweden 😅😅
@enoynaert
@enoynaert 2 ай бұрын
It seems like maintenance should be much easier than an ICE outboard.
@coolandmellow
@coolandmellow Ай бұрын
So you can get 7 x6kw ecoflow batteries with 2 inverters for a total of 42kw of power for 20854$ making it slightly cheaper with 2kw more 👍
@Leblueskee
@Leblueskee 3 ай бұрын
How is this even remotely competitive in terms of cost 😂
@dt9094
@dt9094 2 ай бұрын
What’s the range?
@MrLeorodriquez
@MrLeorodriquez Ай бұрын
It’s all nice and good BUT NONE OF THESE GUYS ARE ACTUALLY DELIVERING 😁😁😁😁
@ePropulsionUK
@ePropulsionUK Ай бұрын
We have delivered lots of these!
@Clint3571
@Clint3571 Ай бұрын
I made it past the price. I did not make it past the one hour full throttle runtime with the $20k in batteries. They need a full solar roof so you could limp home on 800 watts directly from the panels.
@RobertSkene-qw3ob
@RobertSkene-qw3ob Ай бұрын
Where's the long extension cord for charging? Oops me BAD 🇨🇦😂
@user-gk1nt6sm2z
@user-gk1nt6sm2z Ай бұрын
Oh darling I misjudged the power consumption and a storm is headed our way. Pass me the extension cord please. 😙wonderful.
@bwalker4194
@bwalker4194 Ай бұрын
Motor - very cool technology Battery - same old same old heavy, expensive, sucky crap that can play the thermal runaway game when you least expect or want it.
@jmsmikey
@jmsmikey 6 ай бұрын
Ahhh poo! I would have loved to have a tiller model
@AnthonyJonesBrigadeBoats
@AnthonyJonesBrigadeBoats 6 ай бұрын
You and I both
@drjekelmrhyde
@drjekelmrhyde 2 ай бұрын
Bring a portable generator with you just in case.
@alienone6854
@alienone6854 2 ай бұрын
Put a Sharrow toroidal prop on it and make the hole shot much better....i
@AAE-cg1il
@AAE-cg1il Ай бұрын
Still not ready for prime time.
@user-ct4im4nd6r
@user-ct4im4nd6r Ай бұрын
Y’all go try that I wouldn’t get out on the water with just an electric motor You better have a backup
@Goodellsam
@Goodellsam 2 ай бұрын
Let me guess, lithium batteries that explode when lithium is exposed to water.
@AnthonyJonesBrigadeBoats
@AnthonyJonesBrigadeBoats 2 ай бұрын
No. Your confusing Li-Ion w/ LiFePo4, the marine gold standard. Some cheaper ones run nickel manganese internally and are subject to thermal runaway.
@mattkukla1073
@mattkukla1073 18 күн бұрын
want electric jet ski
@DrEd-th2lu
@DrEd-th2lu 2 ай бұрын
Nice gimmick, but I never will change over from gas. Salt water and long distance travel is common for us. Cute for a little CA liberal lake… Real men use gas or diesel. I run 3 twin 454’s. Nothing will ever replace that in my lifetime…
@AnthonyJonesBrigadeBoats
@AnthonyJonesBrigadeBoats 2 ай бұрын
That's great, Dr. Ed. It's not a gimmick. It is, in fact, an outboard. Nobody asked you to change over from gas. Don't make it political because I live in Georgia, not a liberal state, and we have TONS of electric only lakes and reservoirs. Real men aren't closed-minded. They can understand there are tons of different vessels out there and different ways to power them. There's not a one size fits all. Whether you like it or not, there is a very large market for electric outboards. These companies are doing well. It's just a different market, man. Nobody is coming for your gas outboards. No need to flex and feel triggered enough to comment that you're a real man 🤣 In fact, why are you even watching this video? Shouldn't you be tuning in to some twin 454 content opposed to a first look video of a pre launch electric outboard???
@jprobillard
@jprobillard 2 ай бұрын
I know, right. That's why I'm still using my horse and buggy.
@DrEd-th2lu
@DrEd-th2lu 2 ай бұрын
@@jprobillard EV’s are so 1900’s and failed…
@daddski1
@daddski1 Ай бұрын
@@AnthonyJonesBrigadeBoats nobody coming for gas outboards? wow, blind. Ask anyone from california if they can still run their two strokes... you do realize right? it takes earth movers and heavy equipment to mine even one battery. The environmental cost in pollution to mine ONE battery makes more pollution than my ram 3500 dually truck spits out in its entire lifetime. Go green? you also realize right? the electricity to recharge these comes from coal fired plants..... but sure lol. pretend its healthy alternative. not to mention what happens to these batteries when a pinhole happens and air hits that lithium and starts it on fire.... or the cost to then replace them every 5 to 10 years or less.
@motorv8N
@motorv8N Ай бұрын
With longer range I’d be afraid of running off the edge of the earth!
@ktmjay9920
@ktmjay9920 2 ай бұрын
Battery tech just not there yet
@ExpertMass
@ExpertMass 2 ай бұрын
yah man, true
@DrEd-th2lu
@DrEd-th2lu 2 ай бұрын
It never will be. As an engineer, we call it Physics…. 😀
@skyfly51
@skyfly51 5 ай бұрын
No tiller? No way
@AnthonyJonesBrigadeBoats
@AnthonyJonesBrigadeBoats 5 ай бұрын
They released a tiller on the smaller units but not on the x40
@lorencolt
@lorencolt 2 ай бұрын
Man, if you can't charge with solar it is no good in the Dakotas on the Missouri River. We have Electrical outlets every where. NOT! I would build a 30' plus barge stile aluminum hull houseboat "less than 12" draft" and put 2 of these on it and do the Great Loop to prove how good it is. But if you have to use shore based recharging it is a no go.
@AnthonyJonesBrigadeBoats
@AnthonyJonesBrigadeBoats 2 ай бұрын
Any lithium battery system can be charged with solar. That's no issue. The issue is how many panels you'd need to efficiently charge and the cost of said panels.
@stevehansen6552
@stevehansen6552 Ай бұрын
Who is this WE you speak of?
@TheGreenBoater
@TheGreenBoater 8 ай бұрын
These new gas alternative outboards are a welcome option to the boat conversion market! The new world of eco friendly, quiet, low maintenance outboard electric motors has arrived. Kudos on this excellent review.
@AnthonyJonesBrigadeBoats
@AnthonyJonesBrigadeBoats 8 ай бұрын
Thank you. Much appreciated. The X-40 is an awesome addition to the electric outboard world.
@MoneyPitBoating
@MoneyPitBoating 4 ай бұрын
Couldn't have said it better ourselves!
@user-ox2xu1nd2m
@user-ox2xu1nd2m Ай бұрын
also why not make a hydrogen gas operated engine with its own water to hydrogen converter, salt water is a great electrical conductor, then you wouldn't have to worry about buying heavy batteries, or gas and diesel.
@primsolllineguy8689
@primsolllineguy8689 22 күн бұрын
I have been a boater my entire life. If you add up all of the weight, cost of batteries, interfaces, disposal of batteries as well as all fo the associated costs, You are a long way from market acceptance. Perhaps a small tiller unit will be acceptable. I believe in the ecology as with The EV. Perhaps that is a direction to go. With respect to a 300 hp electric motor on a bass boat, how can you justify the expense and weight. My interest would to develop better battery technology the motors will soon follow. As an aside that lower unit as well as the huge umbilical looks out of place. Five blade prop screams of torque, not speed or efficiency. Subaru is working a clean technology for the marketplace. It could possibly disrupt the EV market. One thing for sure, the next five years will be moving us into the future. DONT FORGET: MAKE IT IN AMERICA INNOVATE HERE. WE HAVE THE BEST MINDS AN WORK FORCE. 🇺🇸⚓️
@ZoneTelevision
@ZoneTelevision Ай бұрын
They need Micro Nuclear Cells in order for electric to be viable. Electric stuff is ok for short range stuff. BUT is prone to overheat very easily and once battery fires start you are not putting it out and they're toxic asF.
@jobsearch5871
@jobsearch5871 8 ай бұрын
1000 lbs is a lot of weight
@AnthonyJonesBrigadeBoats
@AnthonyJonesBrigadeBoats 8 ай бұрын
I mean it is but ive seen guys put 1,000 pds in a jon boat. A gas 50hp is about 275 pds, plus 25 gallon tank times 6 pds per gallon. So about 425 pds not including steering cable or hydraulic. Let's call it 450. So yes, this package is about 500 pds more. It is what it is, it needs batteries. Good news is as time and technology increase hopefully that weight can be cut down. Pros and cons to everything though.
@donovanpautz
@donovanpautz 2 ай бұрын
Has it got enough power to push through the Surf Zone? 1hr of riding is not Safe.
@maxhugen
@maxhugen Ай бұрын
Electricity plus salt water. What could possibly go wrong? 🤣
@JohnLee-im7iu
@JohnLee-im7iu Ай бұрын
How much for 5 electric 450 hp units on the boat……lol
@killa_gram
@killa_gram Ай бұрын
Buy Dtorque 111 and you will have happiness and savings, good luck😏
@treavy-n1d
@treavy-n1d 2 ай бұрын
I love everything electric and I already support the electric idea let’s make the planet green
@daddski1
@daddski1 Ай бұрын
you do realize right? it takes earth movers and heavy equipment to mine even one battery. The environmental cost in pollution to mine ONE battery makes more pollution than my ram 3500 dually truck spits out in its entire lifetime. Go green? you also realize right? the electricity to recharge these comes from coal fired plants..... but sure lol. pretend its healthy alternative. not to mention what happens to these batteries when a pinhole happens and air hits that lithium and starts it on fire.... or the cost to then replace them every 5 to 10 years or less.
@brucemitchell5637
@brucemitchell5637 Ай бұрын
And where do you think the electricity comes from that charges the battery, little fella? 😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡
@electrake2063
@electrake2063 Ай бұрын
Yeah - Totally silly money for the performance. I'd say this only makes sense for a location where fuel is difficult to deliver or overly cost prohibitive - like on an island possibly with a decent solar array to charge it. Otherwise - silly money.
@JP-ec9rl
@JP-ec9rl 5 ай бұрын
It had 2.5 hours charge time left at 85% charge! Not good!
@williamrussell3811
@williamrussell3811 Ай бұрын
sure hope they work on the price 🥴🥴
@kebotrans
@kebotrans 28 күн бұрын
So the weight saved on the motor is gone 800 lbs of battery. Wth man.
@silversharkc4666
@silversharkc4666 4 ай бұрын
Technology not there yet to make it economical and dependable. I'll stick with my gas Merc.
@AnthonyJonesBrigadeBoats
@AnthonyJonesBrigadeBoats 4 ай бұрын
They have to start somewhere though. My small electric outboards are much more dependable than my 4 stroke but I definitely get what your saying and don't disagree
@codemang3635
@codemang3635 Ай бұрын
Waaay too much weight for only 50hp
@shane8915
@shane8915 2 ай бұрын
50hp Mercury outboard with 100 gallons of fuel - 880 pounds. EPropulsion X-40 with 4 electric batteries 1,098 pounds. Not including additional electronics required to charge and operate. The last time that I checked.... A pontoon boat would only hold an average of 35 gallons of fuel. 100 gallons of fuel is a lot of wide open all day trips on the lake. With tons less weight. If you people are considering this electric motor option... You need your heads examined!
@chechnya
@chechnya 2 ай бұрын
People have different needs and not all do what you do.
@shane8915
@shane8915 2 ай бұрын
@@chechnya Sounds like an excuse to me. An excuse to still be able to sleep at night. After grossly overspending on a boat that won't be out on a body of water but just a fraction of the time that a conventional boat will be. Sounds like a perfect way to get rid of excess money to me. While staying on the bank. Watching other boaters passing by. You're not a financial manager are you? God, I hope not. But, you do you. Your money... Not mine.
@AnthonyJonesBrigadeBoats
@AnthonyJonesBrigadeBoats 2 ай бұрын
Shane, don't let electric outboards live rent-free in your head, man. Don't be so triggered to leave responses like this. Keep in mind, there are many electric only lakes with houses on them that these boats are going to. Just like the man told you, not everyone is using their boat the same way you use yours. You are making a bunch of assumptions. And your right, it's their money, not yours. I've been in the marine industry long enough to know this- People that have the money to buy expensive boats and parts are never the ones in the KZbin comments section complaining about the cost and functionality of things. And I'm not just talking electric outboards, anything in general. But, if it makes YOU sleep better at night by taking the time to leave your opinion on here, I'm glad I can provide the content for you to hate on.
@shane8915
@shane8915 2 ай бұрын
@@AnthonyJonesBrigadeBoats The only two things that live rent-free in my head are common sense and the innate ability to trigger self righteous "marine industry folk". You know, the ones who over value themselves after they've built/customized just a handful of Jon Boats. Those garbage cans that I couldn't possibly afford. Since I've lived on, and owned lakefront property, for 43 years. How many years did you say that you've you been in the "marine industry" again? Lmao! I've worn-out more boats than you've ever laid eyes on punk! Now! You go to sleep tonight knowing that nobody was talking to you. Or, asked for your inept opinion of mine. You really aren't that important. On here. Or, in real life.
@kerrytodd3753
@kerrytodd3753 2 ай бұрын
No way this is economically feasible……😂
@ykwit637
@ykwit637 Ай бұрын
What are the enviromental risks with a boat going under maybe lost following a hurricane. On a confined lake even. The other thing is California has rolling blackouts and are already asking people during hot months not to charge their cars. We simply don't have enough electricity in many places to support electric cars let alone adding boats to the equation. More nuclear, more of the eye soar wind and solar???
@mariop8576
@mariop8576 Ай бұрын
Something about electricity and salt water just doesn't seem right 😀
@jd-it4on
@jd-it4on Ай бұрын
Thats alot of money and weight i mise well just buy a used merc 400
@bigjimar77
@bigjimar77 2 ай бұрын
Too expensive for the lack of speed and run time. Batteries are way too high. Good luck selling that.
@AnthonyJonesBrigadeBoats
@AnthonyJonesBrigadeBoats 2 ай бұрын
It's definitely expensive. It's a small market aimed at a particular use, not necessarily for everyone or a replacement for gas at this point. Only time will tell.
@user-ox2xu1nd2m
@user-ox2xu1nd2m Ай бұрын
The'll be looking at around 60,000.00 ++ too much money just for a 40hp for pontoon boats I like the idea of an electric motor, but for people that make 25 to 60,000.00 a year, your going to be losing allot of customers. or used on a 22' or longer especially when gas is cheaper and lighter and will be able to go farther, they're not going to be selling very many.
@krowbar23
@krowbar23 2 ай бұрын
Oh no more fires breaking out on boats now. 😮😮😮
@AnthonyJonesBrigadeBoats
@AnthonyJonesBrigadeBoats 2 ай бұрын
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@charlesk46563
@charlesk46563 Ай бұрын
With the batterys, motor, bms and controller, cockpit controls , installation its is going to be around $50,000, add a hard top and solar system another $20,000, pluss the boat $30,000 + . So for around $100,000 you will have a boat that does 20 mph for one hour, then can sit around for 8 hours to recharge. No thanks could find other ways to spend that kind of money. Plus it's a boat so you are just flushing your money down the toilet anyway.
@TheSoloAsylum
@TheSoloAsylum Ай бұрын
22K and 800lbs just for the battery, that's a wrap. I don't even need to know the cost and weight of the motor.
@DavidJSamko
@DavidJSamko 26 күн бұрын
Nope. Battery for this has got to be huge with a limited range. Maybe if you put solar panels on top of the boat but that’s even more weight. So no go.
@brucemitchell5637
@brucemitchell5637 Ай бұрын
Electricity and water. What could POSSIBLY go wrong? LOL! 😂😂😂
@AnthonyJonesBrigadeBoats
@AnthonyJonesBrigadeBoats Ай бұрын
Batteries on boats are nothing new. Bass fishermen have been using electric trolling motors since 1934, the year Minn Kota was created.
@direstrait5418
@direstrait5418 23 күн бұрын
The power draw will destroy the batteries so fast it's not worth even building the thing with their RnD.
@danielcapo1991
@danielcapo1991 2 ай бұрын
Water don’t go well with electricity
@AnthonyJonesBrigadeBoats
@AnthonyJonesBrigadeBoats 2 ай бұрын
Bass boats have been running electric trolling motors for 40 years now, and not one person harmed.
@brucemitchell5637
@brucemitchell5637 Ай бұрын
​@AnthonyJonesBrigadeBoats do bass boats usually have 900-pound , 96 volt lithium ion batteries to run their trolling motors? LOL! 😂
@AnthonyJonesBrigadeBoats
@AnthonyJonesBrigadeBoats Ай бұрын
​@brucemitchell5637 what does the weight or voltage matter? The man said water and electricity don't go well. Not water and weight or water and 96v go well. Look at an actual bass boat. 36v (3 lithiums) for trolling motor, 1 lithium for graphs/sonar accessories, sometimes 2 depending in set up, another for starting. Most new bass boats for serious anglers are running 5 or 6 lithiums. It's just crazy how so many guys are jumping on here saying "WaatUr AN EleCtriccIty DoNNT MiX". Well, the electric trolling motor was invented by Minn Kota almost 90 years ago and people have been running electric battery poweredtrolling motors ever since. This is nothing new. Just scaled up for more power and primary source of propolsion. You guys are acting like this thing runs on an extention cord through the water. For the boat in the video, if weight is your issue, it doesn't matter if it weighed 1800lbs so long as the boat it goes on is rated for that weight capacity. I know these outboards live rent free in a lot of heads out there, I'm sure the battery powered drill triggered a lot of dinosaurs that swore by their plug in corded drill. They probably had the same arguments. Not enough power, run time, too expensive. Well go to Home Depot now. I'm not saying electric outboards will replace gas, nor do I care one way or another. I just cover the content and respect the engineering behind new marine equipment. Time will tell if these will ever take root.
@MikeLJ-ku7ov
@MikeLJ-ku7ov Ай бұрын
You can piss on any electric outboard in my book and have better luck
@Foxtucky
@Foxtucky 2 ай бұрын
For the price of this you could buy 3 or 4 50hp gas engines that run longer and are way more reliable
@knowledgeandmultiskilled
@knowledgeandmultiskilled 8 ай бұрын
Electric is only one option, for powering boats, but there are other options. I seen a total of 3 different options, for powering vehicles, and it might work, for boats as well. Electric is shown on this video, so that is only 1 option.
@AnthonyJonesBrigadeBoats
@AnthonyJonesBrigadeBoats 8 ай бұрын
Yes. This video is about an electric outboard in particular. Interesting to see other options come to market.
@knowledgeandmultiskilled
@knowledgeandmultiskilled 8 ай бұрын
@@AnthonyJonesBrigadeBoats Coming to market might not happen with all of the options that currently exist, but perhaps I could be wrong. I seen 1 option only on the internet, and I never saw it anywhere else to power vehicles. I have yet to see it power boats. I think it can though! I know there are people who are inspired, and I believe this is the point you would have to become to figure out what all of the options are to power boats. I understand this video is about electric outboards, and I hope other people can explore other options if they don't like electric outboards.
@tmalone121
@tmalone121 22 күн бұрын
Ant no way! The weight and price is such a down fall. Just go buy a 60 merc for 6,500
@MR1977.
@MR1977. Ай бұрын
That dudes name is not Danny.
@universaltravellershostel3402
@universaltravellershostel3402 16 күн бұрын
20000+ dollars for a motor that you can run for an hour and the battery goes dead?
@markcole6475
@markcole6475 2 ай бұрын
Yeah….lets mix water with lithium Batteries ….especially salt water
@AnthonyJonesBrigadeBoats
@AnthonyJonesBrigadeBoats 2 ай бұрын
Almost every new boat on the market comes with lithium batteries for accessory, starting, and trolling motor batteries. I've thrown lithium batteries in the lake on my channel. There are many types of lithiums from Lithium Ion , to Lithium Iron Phosphate, to Nickel Manganese, to Cobalt. Also different rating on environment. That's like saying good luck driving a car because gas is flammable. lol. No difference here.
@markcole6475
@markcole6475 2 ай бұрын
@@AnthonyJonesBrigadeBoats vehicles do catch fire but can be put out if caught early enough….once a lithium battery starts on fires there’s no putting it out….it has to burn out and it’ll take everything with it..
@AnthonyJonesBrigadeBoats
@AnthonyJonesBrigadeBoats Ай бұрын
Yes, I'm aware. We ship lithiums. UPS has to put a decal on the side indicating there are lithiums on board. My point is, everything is lithium now. Your phone. Drill batteries. Heck, my new bait aerator from Engel is lithium. Every bass boat on the BASS tour has 5 or 6 lithiums. It's standard regardless of how they can potentially burn. I've never seen a lithium marine battery catch on fire. Not saying it hasn't happened, just never seen it. You'd probably have better odds of getting in a car crash than your lithium catching on fire. But I don't go around telling people driving cars is a bad idea.
@JonDoe-cg4mr
@JonDoe-cg4mr Ай бұрын
800 lb battery. Ok
@AnthonyJonesBrigadeBoats
@AnthonyJonesBrigadeBoats Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@OLIVER_NIPPLE
@OLIVER_NIPPLE 4 ай бұрын
That’s nowhere near enough run time.
@ExpertMass
@ExpertMass 2 ай бұрын
yes
@tomfowler8389
@tomfowler8389 7 ай бұрын
The technology isn’t there yet I see no advantage to this at all.
@AnthonyJonesBrigadeBoats
@AnthonyJonesBrigadeBoats 7 ай бұрын
Ok. Thanks for checking it out and leaving feedback.
@Frustrated_Hippy
@Frustrated_Hippy 17 күн бұрын
New technology is interesting but but based on the cost and weight this is stupid.
@daddski1
@daddski1 Ай бұрын
made me laugh... 11 hours run time LMAO... FORD has that f150 truck with similar claims, so they tested it. In reality that truck with a 350 mile plus range on a full charge... ACTUALLY made it 83 miles before needing recharged for 2 plus hours. THey are all lying. THe sad thing here, the f150 you can get out and walk if you need to./ When this boat dies in the middle of nowhere... you are screwed and if a storm hits like every afternoon in florida.... can be deadly. Maybe 50 years from now something will actually work as claimed but electric is not there. ...cool idea though.
@AnthonyJonesBrigadeBoats
@AnthonyJonesBrigadeBoats Ай бұрын
Idk man. I'm not a electric only advocate guy. I appreciate all advancements in the electric world and in technology in general. I can say this- My brother in law has had a lightning f150 for over a year. He drives it from Roswell GA to visit us in Athens GA. About a 150 mile trip. He's never ran out of battery. Always had plenty. As far as this outboard, I'm glad it made you laugh. Everything starts somewhere though. I'm not defending the cost, run time or weight, but I'm smart enough to know these things can't come straight out the gate perfect in every way. Eventually the cost and weight will come down, run time go up. Or not. Then you can still laugh. Thanks for watching though.
@Peter-wc4kr
@Peter-wc4kr 16 күн бұрын
It will be a ridiculous price.
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