The elevator shaft was invented before the elevator

[@TomScottGo]

If you're browsing KZbin in English (UK), then the title and description of this video will say "Lift": otherwise "Elevator". Unfortunately, I can't make the same changes to the video.

[@arifhossain9751]

Can confirm. Technology, eh?

[@vaishnavsm]

1 week ago hmmmm

[@ok2431]

Do u even lift? 🤣

[@jfluffydog2110]

Doesn't work for me, title says Elevator and im in UK with no VPN.

[@Benisued]

It turns me off when a video assumes that I know something I don't, a lot of people might also feel the same, so I believe a better title would be: The elevator Shaft Was Invented Before The Elevator, here's why

[@brandonjohnson4121]

I really hope in 5 years someone announces an invention that none of us had any idea could exist, but one guy was like "Yep. Called it. Here's my prep for it." The world is incredible.

[@rachelcookie321]

I mean an elevator wasn’t really a far fetched idea then. Elevators had been a thing for ages it was just about making one safe enough and reliable for humans. Everyone saw it coming, it was just a matter of when.

[@ldr7125]

Can’t wait for my collection of belly button lint to finally have a purpose

[@0xsergy]

@@rachelcookie321 mines definitely had elevators before then

[@staticbuilds7613]

Probably something technology related as that stuff is hard to predict than normal life things

[@rivershen8954]

@@0xsergy but like the video says, probably only used to move the ores and rocks mined

[@fr_ite4679]

“Boss, I invented the elevator shaft!” “What’s it do?” “I dunno.”

[@sirocco2810]

My dude probably held the "iiii" in "wait for iiiiiiit" for around 5 years.

[@ErulianADRaghath]

It holds the promise of a future invention!

[@falxonPSN]

@@sirocco2810 found Shawn Spencer.

[@BarioIDL]

they could try the zero gravity launch like the other tower

[@GeneralChangFromDanang]

"Well, let's throw things down it."

[@dangerouslytalented]

A round shaft would have allowed for a spiral staircase in case the whole safe elevator idea didn't pan out.

[@danelisslow3269]

You can make a rectangle stairway. Ever been in a hotel or office building

[@maxviviani9042]

@@danelisslow3269 rectangle stairways take much more space. A 2m wide 4m long rectangular shaft is a bit too small for a stairway.

[@lucasrem1870]

mining, but how to make doors? Round doors, so it was square Revit, try to make it round? You got skills?

[@dpdfpdffgp]

@@lucasrem1870 what?

[@emerett2409]

@@lucasrem1870 what is wrong with you?

[@trplll100]

This is interesting as a programmer. Sometimes we need a ladder as a solution, but we will spend countless hours in meetings debating whether we need an extension ladder because it's more scalable. Or maybe a stairwell because it's more solid and reliable and we will end up spending 1000x more building an empty, round elevator shaft with a ladder running through it.

[@crushert]

Exactly.

[@rachelcookie321]

Just wanted to let you know you accidentally wrote “weather” instead of “whether”

[@abievelez]

@@rachelcookie321 I liked the idea of "debating weather" though.

[@jonathantan2469]

And then months later, a new renovation is done making the ladder unusable, and it has to be junked. Hundreds of hours of sprint & scrum meetings wasted.

[@trplll100]

@@rachelcookie321 I fixed it 8 months later, I hope it didn't take two long ;)

[@doctorwrm]

There's plenty of round elevators in apartment buildings here in Stockholm. Usually the main staircase in apartment buildings are spiral staircases, so a round elevator fits perfectly in the center of the stairway.

[@donperegrine922]

Oh cool! Here in Australia, we often have an elevator core, and a zig-zag staircase runs behind it, but the staircase is the fire escape, made slightly more nice to be acceptable for daily use (walking up a floor or two).

[@Sgtpeterenis]

My university had a new building added in 2013 or so. The thing must be an enormous faraday cage. Sitting next to a window (or anywhere else), you can't get reception on your phone, and the wifi access points can't handle the mass of people. This seems like such an incredible oversight. I think that we'll have to have wire shafts going through every room everywhere, easily serviceable, too. For everything from ethernet to wireless charging in basically all surfaces.

[@Leo9ine]

Hate to break it to ya, but likely isn't an oversight. Blocking cell reception is hard. But possible. Look at hospitals, they block service even right next to a window. The university likely sees phones as a distraction, and/or wants to force people onto their wifi to charge money and/or harvest data.

[@TomatoFettuccini]

It's not at all uncommon. Every single building with a stucco exterior has a mesh cage to which the stucco is applied, which means every single stucco building has a Faraday cage. It's common among buildings with mostly metal construction too, which many modern universities have.

[@staryoshi06]

does it happen to be UTS?

[@mikemotorbike4283]

Are you there to surf Tik Tok or to study?

[@aldomir]

Fantastic video, as always, Tom. I particularly love the fact you say "Things you MIGHT not know" as apposed to "Things you DIDN'T know" which is a phrase I really hate because it's a presumption and, in almost all instances it is used, must be untrue. So I respect you for choosing those the word "might".

[@thiagoalencar3937]

This. It's even more annoying when it is a fact that you have heard multiple times as not something you are not supposed to know.

[@racookster]

The Colosseum in Rome had 24 elevators almost 2,000 years ago. They were used to raise animals up into the arena, so unlike Otis elevators, they didn't have to be safe. If men were ever transported on them, the Romans presumably didn't care if the elevators were safe or not. They were most likely going up to die in the arena anyway.

[@andrewenderfrost8161]

Oh the Romans didn't want the gladiators to die, they wanted them to get superficial injuries that looked really dramatic but wouldn't be fatal. I don't know if they actually cared about them as individuals; the training costs were more than the upkeep costs so it was just more profitable to keep them alive.

[@Fedack]

There were manual safe elevators through history. The problem is automatic and electric elevators. Those romans elevators were quite safe. The romans made sturdy stuff but they were also moved by men or beasts so they were constantly monitored.

[@OzixiThrill]

One thing you should not forget is that at the end of the day, the Colisseum had a role to fulfill. They very much cared about the animals in those elevators making it through the elevator, at the very least. Because an animal costs a lot of money to import, keep alive and then put on to be part of the show (in which it will get slaughtered, but until then it has to stay alive). So it's not exactly correct to think that they weren't making sure that the elevators were safe.

[@SmallSpoonBrigade]

@@OzixiThrill They were safish. They were only 28 feet tall and probably routinely maintained, but since it was such a short distance, they could overengineer in a way that we can't generally with a modern elevator. The cabling alone for an elevator that goes from the bottom tot he top of a skyscraper is problematic and for the tallest buildings not even possible. It's part of why alternate designs are still of interest even though cable based systems are so well established. A cable based system can't move to the sides and is limited by the linear density of the cabling. Eventually the weight of the cable alone becomes so heavy that it can't support itself, or an elevator car. I do think that cog based elevators are rather interesting and probably will be the way of the future eventually as they can be made as high as you like, and can be powered from the side. The only limitation there is just the throughput on the passengers and freight that you want to put into it as the taller an elevator is the more floors it has to go through and the more wasted space involved with its existence.

[@boodle399]

The Romans did a good job making everyone believe they acutally sent people into arenas to die and not the acutal historical fact that gladiators are just WWE wrestlers in ancient times

[@Kieryboo]

Tom, I love the way you end your videos with questions proposed and say "I don't know, maybe you do." It's always encouraging me to think about new things and explore the world around me. Thank you.

[@Techno-Universal]

However circular elevators would become quite popular in the 1980s with certain types of architecture such as in shopping centres built at the time with Crystal Palace architecture for example! There’s also some elevator shafts that are round because of them being drilled into the ground and built using tunnelling shields such as the elevators in the deep level tube stations for example but a lot of them have new square elevator shafts or have square elevators in the original circular shafts! :)

[@dash8brj]

I think its neat that instead of renovating again and removing the round shaft for a square one, they kept it and put in a round elevator, along with a second more common square one.

[@Fade2GrayOG]

We need to start leaving enough space under the floorboards for anti-grav plating

[@robinhodson9890]

There's already LOADS of space between floors.

[@Novers]

Unfortunately it's gonna have to go into the ceiling

[@rachelcookie321]

@@robinhodson9890 below my floor is just straight up concrete. It’s the carpet and then below that directly is the concrete foundation.

[@IIxIxIv]

For the present it's wifi: 20 years ago we didn't know we want mobile internet reception in every room in a building.

[@deadbolt9019]

I had WiFi 20 years ago.

[@FurnitureFan]

I'm just glad that someone invented dry risers.

[@CainXVII]

I grew up in a house in Stockholm, Sweden where many old elevators use round shafts. The elevators are usually square with cut corners. In my house I was told the shaft was built before the elevator, so it was just an elevator shaft for many years. But it's still running a hundred years later.

[@sophierobinson2738]

If I'm not mistaken, the Salt Lake Temple had shafts built in, now used for elevators.

[@Wkmor]

I’ve heard that too.

[@richardjones1699]

Yep And they tried to claim it was 'insprired' to use as a faith promoting false story

[@camronthackeray9654]

@@richardjones1699 I've heard that

[@richardjones1699]

@@camronthackeray9654 keep digging if you dare

[@gdutfulkbhh7537]

Cults is as cults does.

[@elgoog-the-third]

In my hometown, there is a store with two round glass elevator shafts and round elevator cabs that go upwards using a spiral below. The shaft wall has a lot of wheels, and the cab mechanism "screws itself upward" through the shaft.

[@noneofyourbusiness3288]

The thing that makes me insane is when in old buildings they did not think about cables at all and just enclosed them in the wall and mortar. Cable-shafts, cable-shafts, cable-shafts! Build more cable-shafts! If you build a house now, please do cable-shafts. They are very handy. It is super nice to be able to replace or add cables easily and having wired-LAN in the rooms you need it is also really nice.

[@AaronOfMpls]

On a related note, in the house I grew up in, Dad intentionally put office-style suspended ceilings in the basement and below the bedrooms, because he wanted the access to run new wires as needed. It came in handy several times, to hook up TVs, a phone and a (dial-up) modem, and eventually ethernet. And it helped with fixing a pipe or two. 😎

[@sallymoen6371]

The round elevator is certainly a good choice for use as a freight elevator, moving oversize computer servers and refrigerators and furniture can be a pain in a regular elevator

[@TnT_F0X]

0:53 the magestic panning... to a pidgeon

[@bobrussell3602]

What amazes me about elevators, or lifts, as we call them in the U.K. is that they are amazingly safe. I am 77 years of age. I have NEVER seen a news report of say, a snapped cable and a elevator / lift plunging down the lift shaft, with consequences better imagined than described. How come they are SO safe, compared with other modes of travel ?

[@旭球]

There are lots of design redundancies, to the point where failure requires gross negligence, some simultaneous disaster, or deliberate sabotage.

[@havcola6983]

For a typical elevator even if the multiple sets of steel ropes broke at once (which is already crazy unlikely) or went into freefall somehow there are built-in safety break wheels on the cab itself that engage when the elevator is moving too fast. Then there are electromagnetic breaks that engage when you stop the car, that actually function by holding the brakes in the open position, not closed, which means that if the elevator loses power the brakes engage. Then there's an additional breaking system at the top and bottom of the elevator shaft if the car moves too far in either direction. THEN, if all else fails there's a shock absorber system at the bottom of the shaft. This is why they never fall but everyone has a story of being stuck in an elevator. They're designed to stick at the slightest provocation.

[@gerardacronin334]

I heard about a distant relative who suffered several crushed vertebrae when the elevator he was in dropped several floors. This was about 50 years ago.

[@beneveritt2720]

What buildings need to have that'll be considered obvious in the future is a roof that can support the weight of soil so they can be retrofitted with a rooftop garden or solar panels without having to reconstruct the entire roof.

[@vrrrrrr-uwu]

if your building doesn’t have a roof that can support solar panels or soil I wouldn’t recommend spending much time under that roof.

[@crazy8sdrums]

The elevator shaft is always built before the elevator.

[@jasonwalding9402]

The thing of future, a society built on the principles of Tom Scott videos. Awesome.

[@themoofboof]

I work at cooper union (former student) It's crazy riding this elevator every day. Unfortunately it's often breaking down- and as you may imagine, it takes a while to get replacement parts.

[@sportsfix6975]

We still have many old historic buildings in Winnipeg where the horse and buggy both used to go up the old freight elevators

[@RoundingThird]

Title - Elevator shaft invented before elevator. Content - Elevators had been around for centuries.

[@markfeldhaus1]

A little pedantic, no? Obviously this refers to a practical, safe elevator appropriate for m

[@shandiemann6934]

4:46 was more inspirational than any and every inspirational speech/video that has ever been played in my years at school

[@donbruce8234]

Just the fact that there is a circular cab elevator in that spot shows just how forward thinking Cooper was.

[@nicholasguerra2498]

You know you like a content creator, especially and educative one, when you see the topic and say "oh I know all about that" and still watch the whole thing

[@Jeagles]

Actually round lift shafts are reasonably common. On the Underground, lifts were originally trapezium shaped and paired back to back in round lift shafts. (They’ve since been replaced in most places by square lifts

[@stephenspackman5573]

I like the positive impact the round cab has on the door clearances. These decisions are not always so obvious!

[@zlerner716]

My dad went and worked at this school. It truly an amazing institution…

[@effyleven]

I rode in a circular elevator when I was 14. It was in the central tube of the "Atomium" in Brussels. The car had no cables. Compressed air forced it up and down at high speed. It really was quick.. quite tummy-wrenching when starting descent. And you didn't just feel the speed. You could see the interior of the shaft whistling towards you and away, through glass panels in the ceiling and floor. That was all 60 years ago. I remember it as if it was last week.

[@rachelcookie321]

That seems a lot less safe.

[@effyleven]

@@rachelcookie321 Latest pictures suggest it is now cable hauled. Maybe the compressed- air/suction method didn't stand the test of time. I don't know what speed it attains now, but in the 50s it was 5 metres per second (18 kph).

[@rachelcookie321]

@@effyleven thank god. If there had been an emergency that elevator would of plummeted to the ground killing or severely injuring everyone inside.

[@istankimjong-unbutcantstan3398]

@@rachelcookie321 Gotta love assumptive people. Perhaps it had breaks on the car....

[@rachelcookie321]

@@istankimjong-unbutcantstan3398 even with breaks it’s definitely less safe than a regular elevator. But I don’t think there’s a point in arguing with someone with a username like that, i doubt you can see to reason.

[@VEE727]

Peter Cooper: Boy, couldn't you have taken a shot of me without a pigeon pooping on my head?

[@simplystreeptacular]

Elijah Otis: "i want my elevator to be safe" Paternosters: "hold my endlessly circling beer"

[@FurnitureFan]

Thank you, that's what I expected to see.

[@doglover334]

“What’s the thing that is gonna seem obvious in 20 or 30 years that no one can see coming now” I’ll answer that in 2040 or 2050

[@Flaidan]

I constantly forget those are real years I'm gonna live to.

[@stlelevators]

This is really cool. I’ve been on thousands of elevators but only a couple round ones like this.

[@olneymaryland77]

Tom, I can just binge the hell out of your videos. Thanks for all the dedication.

[@mpernstein]

So cool to see this. My grandparents met as students at Cooper Union in the late 40s

[@kacey4k]

I know you may not read this comment, but I love and appreciate your short to the point maximum information with minimum words and wasted time style of videos. I see so often these videos that take 10-15min. to answer, often, a simple question and they take forever to present the concept, cover the bases of the answer, and then eventually at some point maybe answer the question. But your videos are just to the point, keep on the point, and answer the question throughout the entire video.

[@guillaumejoop6437]

Cylindrical elevator looks so awesome ! Got a retro vibe to it.

[@robodelux]

I used to use a hydraulic lift at the Royal institute in London (when I worked there as an electrician) - I think it was invented by Faraday - it had a rope that travelled through the corner of the lift from top to bottom of the shaft that had two knots designed to stop the lift by shutting the water valves that drove the lift

[@livinglettuce1545]

I love watching these types of videos just as background noise, so relaxing and interesting

[@pangea1now]

Tom Scott there is another build you might find interesting is the Temple in Salt Lake City. Good history and interesting story behind it's design.

[@austo2010]

This is the second tom Scott video I've seen today that is years old that I've never seen! I could have sworn I'd watched very main chanel video ever published at least once!

[@iTube2772]

That ending of the video. You are wholsomeness personified. Thank you for what you do.

[@JohnJBrowne11209]

Amazing video Tom. I'm a New Yorker and I have passed Cooper Union numerous times but never knew this until today.

[@MonaichFother]

Okay, okay I'll watch this then. Will it please come off my recommended list now, please?

[@Rookie_Rockounding]

“I don’t know… maybe you do.” Best line EVER!

[@seanarmstrong6435]

I love the floors made of access panels in Sheridan college, the thought of being able to run anything above or below is amazing

[@Blackholebirb]

My university has a bunch of panels in the floor which can be lifted up to access plug sockets underneath, lets the uni have larger rooms without any worry about not having plug socket access in the centre of the room!

[@johnestupido1418]

In 1965 Otis and the Elevators had the number one hit with "Baby, we've had our ups and downs"

[@JoseMorales-lw5nt]

Let's not forget the song that only got to #2 because of Otis and The Elevators. That classic single: NO MATTER WHAT SHAPE YOUR STOMACH'S IN by Pepto and The Bismols!

[@antonn1608]

4 minutes into the interview, Tom Scott just jumps in completely out of nowhere. I completely forgot that I was watching his channel.

[@ThePoxun]

What do we need built into buildings now? Outer walls and other structural material that has better radio insulation on frequencies that are used for personal/local things such as Wi-Fi to reduce interference between individual property units but also better at passing long range/public signals like mobile phone/5G broadband etc.

[@PaulG.x]

Otis actually invented the elevator safety mechanism for a heavy goods elevator at the factory he was employed at,not a passenger elevator. "In 1845 he moved to Albany, New York, where he worked as a master mechanic in a bedstead factory. During this period he invented a railway safety brake. By 1852 he had moved to Yonkers, New York to work at the Maize & Burns bedstead factory installing machinery. The factory needed a hoist to lift heavy equipment to the upper floor, but this posed serious safety issues. In response, Otis invented the safety elevator, which automatically comes to a halt if the hoisting rope breaks. The following year he left the factory and started his own company, the Otis Elevator Company."

[@InventorZahran]

The modern equivalent to this would be a café with free Wi-Fi in 2006 or earlier - before smartphones became ubiquitous.

[@BonaparteBardithion]

I wanna say Starbucks and McDonalds both had free wifi by then. For sure they did by 2010.

[@randyean]

The pigeon on the statue was living it's best life.

[@janinipizzicato]

That circular elevator gave me some portal vibes tbh

[@rogerbarton497]

A round lift cab could have the advantage of providing multiple entrances & exits around the circumference. The door would be a cylinder with a port (or ports) in it which would align with ports on the shaft. The cylinder would be rotated so one or more sets of ports line up at each floor. A bit like sleeve valves in an engine.

[@Shadow_Hawk_Streaming]

a square room would have been easier to build, that's why square has become the standard, especially when you have multiple, only tend to see round ones when it's free standing like some large shopping malls with a big glass tube

[@DoubtlessCar0]

I was expecting it to be "oh well duh how can you build an elevator without a shaft" but this even more interesting!

[@danielweisman496]

Tom, I live in Los Angeles, California. I’ve not traveled much…yet. Thank you very much for all of your exploring!

[@qpwodkgh2010]

Otis didn't invent the elevator. But he did invent the safety system that all elevators use ever since. A safety system makes elevators possible.

[@NaySayersRanch]

The SLC LDS temple had small rooms that no one understood why they were shaped like they were but this is where the elevators were placed

[@oliversissonphone6143]

The ability to get to the office without catching corona virus would be a handy design feature nobody thought of..

[@WhiteCheddar.]

This effer has the most interesting videos of the most everyday things. Concise and full of information in a short vid. Well deserved the 5.5m subs.

[@prisondude]

Every building should have a solitary confinement jail cell

[@Wherearemyfingers]

round elevators feel so futuristic. would be really cool if we actually did go with the round ones instead

[@kairon156]

I do love when tech or any invention tries to jump ahead of current times like this.

[@maszlagma]

Very interesting although I would argue that the building interior wasn't "renovated" but "destroyed/demolished and re-designed". Renovation would mean the interior was preserved but it seems to only be the elevator shaft that was spared destruction sadly. I'm sure there would have been other elements of the building interior worth keeping.

[@samuels1123]

Round elevator seems like it would definitely work as a tourist attraction in any building that attracts tourists, especially a round glass elevator type thing

[@audreydoyle5268]

Especially one that rotates to different sections on each floor

[@olivergs9840]

This is like looking at buildings with cableruns all through them, since they only had little to no electrification when they were built

[@TheSneezingAnouki]

I could listen to Professor O'Donnell for hours!

[@gregd806]

Peter Cooper Sounded like a Visionary... God Bless his soul..

[@icanhaslike1358]

My dad went to Cooper Union Architecture School in the 90s. RIP dad.

[@ianoliver3879]

Excellent stuff. And good research to find the right interviewee. Thank you.

[@c.ocadizg.4127]

Such columns at 1:03 in a space intended to be an auditorium seems like a design fail.

[@D3Vlicious]

Probably didn't have the technology/capability to do hall without those columns to hold the floors above up.

[@57thorns]

Sometime in the 1990s out computer club at the university helped rip out the old cabling for serial terminals (VT100) that went through the cellar with individual line from the central computer(s) to every terminal. The computer network was changed to a coax network, with work stations (SUN mostly) replace the text terminals. Just a few years later, the common carrier coaxial network was replaced again with twisted pair, the cable able we know associate with computer networks. The thing is, you have to see both the need and a possible solution to "plan" like this. What we do see is flexible heating and cooling, using central heating and mechanical ventilation. Systems that efficiently distribute fresh air (warm or cool) where needed, but using different kinds of sources for heat or cold. There are also a much higher number of electrical outlets installed than earlier, but that need is current, not future. Having cabling channels routed to every room (for computer networks) is also a current need, but depending on how it is done it could be used for future technologies as well as current.

[@mmasque2052]

“What will we have in 20 years that seems obvious but not now?” Full accessibility regardless of a person’s mobility or lack thereof.

[@jadklafjkejalka]

I would hope that self sufficient buildings will be standard in the future, They might gather all of the rain water, process the sewer and have renewable energy or small Thorium reactors installed so there will be less need for infrastructure like wires and pipes connecting all places and needing to be updated?

[@GunSpyEnthusiast]

" Hey look at this nice hole in the building I've made. " " cool what's it for? " " uuuuuhhhh evading payments you owe. "

[@chuckleberryfinn1992]

If the lift concept had never panned out, they could have put a pole inside the shaft ; using that as the path to return to ground floor would reduce stairway usage by nearly half. Not to mention, adding some comedic relief at the end of a long work day.

[@nomusicrc]

0:49 why are the U's V's instead of U's

[@aaron6178]

How brilliant was Cooper. So rare to see that kind of longsightedness.

[@Driftlife36]

I love this channel so much one of my favorites on KZbin

[@msamour]

Teleporters Tom! They should start putting rooms in buildings that go nowhere, and pretend they will one day. X)

[@thecoolaxolotlnova8523]

A circular elevator would be so aesthetically pleasing

[@bigsmall246]

Reserving spots in things for future upgrades to be installed at a later time is now everywhere - laptops, PCs, ships They tried to build a modular phone but sadly it didn't take off :(

[@Kisai_Yuki]

The "most efficient" shape is going to always be "round" (or rather "cylinder"), however this runs into the "cheapest" which is always square. Like the entire reason buildings are not round (which would then not have to worry about wind resistance) is because building materials are not round. Shipping containers likewise, aren't round. Ultimately when we switch to some elaborate version of a building-scale 3D printer, the most efficient building will be round because that's the only way to ensure a continuous-pour for the concrete using a center axis, otherwise you have to pause and re-align (like an inkjet.) Thus that center axis can then be the elevator shaft.

[@keith800]

Brilliant bit of obscure elevator history.

[@neon-kitty]

I'm not so sure about the premise of this video. They did have manually powered lifts in Hellenistic and ancient Roman times, though I'm not sure whether any of the ones transporting living creatures were installed in proper lift shafts. But by Prof. O'Donnell's definition, we also need to include cargo lifts and there are, for example, descriptions indicating that the ancient Lighthouse of Alexandria had a central shaft used to lift firewood (and presumably building materials during construction) to the top. But it was an interesting watch regardless :).

[@bryanglass6701]

I miss the old method of using catapults to sling people up to the higher elevations of buildings and castles.

[@dckatyx9577]

Built before the elevator, which had “been around for centuries.”

[@chrisfenn3189]

Tom keep up the good work, love your vids.

[@SkashTheKitsune]

I am going to have to say this before a 10 year old steals my idea, we need to be designing capabilities for rocket boots and accessibility options for rocket boots.

[@23Scadu]

4:40 airlocks and decontamination chambers.

[@humanhuman5024]

No that game is dead

[@dcsensui]

"Dang! They promised an elevator and we got the shaft . . . "

[@minsky482]

i think in 20 years pedestrians are gonna walk not only on ground floor but also levels above it and bridges between the catwalks are gonna be the cross walks

[@Leo9ine]

That already exists in a lot of places, but it's extremely expensive for minimal gain, except in a few very high traffic areas where it can be justified. Those sky bridges are almost never publicly funded either. They usually only get built to increase productivity (profits) when one company has two buildings on either side of a street.

[@TakeS_itApart]

Your closing statement is powerful.

[@zeineb8870]

It seems like Tom never ages