The Emerging EVTOL from China

[@jbrownson]

Your videos are always jam packed of info I didn’t know I wanted to know, thanks

[@ElectricAviation]

Glad you like them!

[@marcv2648]

Absolutely the best channel on KZbin for this topic.

[@willimeier8027]

Danke!

[@ElectricAviation]

Very kind of you. Danke schön

[@acwdronesolutions7418]

Great video , Thanks so much .I really enjoy your shows.

[@ElectricAviation]

Glad you like them!

[@sharvansir5979]

delhi rohini heliport area can be devoloped for evtol aviation . 23 yrs huge experience as air frame technician in military aviation very much interested to work in this field ,now at 57 yrs fighting fit to work project like black fly, Jetson one , orb nomad and xpeng like projects.

[@seanavery7265]

I love the flying car concept .🤔💗🚁

[@samirould-ali7815]

Good video

[@ElectricAviation]

Thanks

[@papparocket]

I love all of the innovative thinking that is resulting in so many different approaches to VTOL electric flight. It reminds me a lot of the Cambrian period of Earth 538 million years ago when there was a massive radiation, often referred to as the "Cambrian Explosion", of multicellular life forms into many different and sometimes bizarre body configurations (phyla) (check out Hallucigenia and Opabinia). Eventually the most successful body forms came to dominate and those which couldn't compete died out. The same evolutionary process will happen with eVTOL as the very different formats (single/multi/many fixed rotor, tilt rotor, lift+cruise, tilt wing, tilt flap, etc.) actually come into service and begin to compete against each other first to find that all important first customer (this is likely to weed out the weaker contenders) and then in service for enough customers to be economically viable. We could see one single format dominate and all other formats disappear, or two or more types might persist for a long time with the different types having different strengths and weakness that allow them to succeed in different niches of the overall market. The "fitness" criteria determining winners and losers in the evolution of eVTOL is likely to be cost per seat-km which will be a major factor in ticket prices. Maybe the relative simplicity of the eHang type might come to dominate the very short range skyscraper to skyscraper hoping in cities with massive urban cores like NYC, and many of the cities in China, or cities where ground transportation is so congested, like Delhi. And maybe one of the lift-cruise configurations will come to dominate the cross-urban and city edge to city core market. And perhaps configurations like the tilt open rotor like the Joby or the tilt ducted rotor like the Lilium with their claimed 250 km range will be able to overcome their likely higher initial cost to make one or more of them superior for regional travel out to 250-300 km. A 250-300 km range would connect city-pairs like the 130 km between Philadelphia and New York City out to the 300 km between NYC and Boston, and London and Paris, and Shanghai and all of the cities surrounding it out as far as Wuhu. Thanks so much for your great videos.

[@whodatcatt]

Wow! Thanks for the great video

[@ElectricAviation]

Glad you liked it!

[@ab.strpk3rang621]

Well Done!

[@dejayrezme8617]

The audio was a bit unpleasant / tinny unlike your usual videos. Otherwise as always super interesting video, thanks!

[@ElectricAviation]

Sorry about that. Yes I felt that, but time was too short to redo it. I will take care in the future. Its the same Rode mic I use, but somehow this one was a bit cracky

[@dadachoski5946]

Can you do a video on Electric AutoGyros? I would think this is the way forward for range and convenience?

[@ElectricAviation]

Yes I have already done a video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a4S9mX6odr6mbLs

[@josega6338]

One of these is close to Lilium Jet machine. I still like the Custer Channel Wing Airplanes. Gesund +

[@headcrab4090]

Sadly Russia chose a dark path. They really had a lot of creative things going on. A true heritage of aeronatics.

[@chubbymoth5810]

Thank you for this extensive report. Would be nice if you could add the names in your introduction of the names of the manufacturers. I was quite impressed with the Pantuo concept as it addresses the elephant in the room of drones, the chopping blades.

[@ElectricAviation]

Noted

[@doglucky1709]

３次元コンピュータフラフィックスの描画技術にZバッファ技法があります、軍用機や旅客機、同等機とのコンフリクトを防止や危険を回避するには時間軸を設けて４次元計算を高速に行う必要があると思います、頑張ってください。

[@jensensean7118]

The Chinese authorities overseeing civilian aviation, rescue, search and fire fighting are not up to spped in adopting new technologies including eVTOL or smaller fixed wing and rotor crafts. Low-alotitude airspace deregulation has been discussed and hyped for so long, but hardly any progress has been made. This has been dampening the growth of the market, if there was a meaningful market at all.

[@martingarrish4082]

I like the E430 fixed wing design, although V-tails can be a red herring. To get the same short period oscillation time and damping as a horizontal stabiliser you normally end up with the same wetted area (boundary layer drag). I'd have to draw a vector diagram, showing how flow impinging on an angled aerofoil reduces the dCL/dAOA to explain. But upshot is there is no real advantage for V-tail. Honestly though I just do not understand the e-VTOL aversion to collective pitch rotor systems. Especially the multi-rotor systems that have similar overall planform dimensions to a rotor design. Can someone explain the logic to me? It just does not make any sense.

[@mehrdadzand386]

Why not use hard wire during take off to reduce battery demand by 25%, plus use of hydrogen containers under the batteries to reduce the weight of the batteries by keeping them afloat and for safety reason on a tow arrangement attached to airplane

[@keltonfoster]

That's weird it sure looks like a Boeing 737-300 400 but I'm sure that is just a coincidence. It's not like they hacked into and stole that intellectual property.

[@ElectricAviation]

It is a narrow body airliner. While there are other narrow body airliners too, like the A320 etc, but what caught my eye was the engine and the same flat bottom surface of the Engine Nacelle as the 737. Other than that I dont think they stole intellectual property.

[@us-tuontilohja6146]

😎👍 Stock symbols??

[@algung2522]

This video was re-loaded from the original "CHANG: 12航"

[@aaronb8698]

Sadly insurance is likely to be very expensive becase all these designs are extremely dangerous and are likely to have industry restructured fatalities. The faa needs to reqire all props to be inclosed so they can run into another bird or evtol. Rapid bolistic parachute should be required on all evtols in the event of full power failure. And I think designs realy should land flat to ground so wheelchair can roll on from parking spot on street on inclement weather.

[@chazguy8723]

Smart Man!

[@DarthDuress]

I’m not a fan of exposed propellers, although the TF-X might be an exception since it’s also a flying car. My preference for a strictly aerial vehicle would be the Jetoptera or the Lilium jet.

[@TeslaBulldotcom]

Hi, any chance you could take a look at sky fly for us, concept simplicity looks great, could this be scaled? Into say a 5 seater, it’s expensive! What’s to stop the Chinese copying the design and turning them out at half the price or less. 👍 big fan of your work by the way

[@ElectricAviation]

I did mention Skyfly in the video I did in January. They have successfully tested a small scale model. I would be more comfortable if they dont have just tip rotors. The reason is if one tip rotor fails its very difficult to control the aircraft. Chinese companies have already copied several designs. This might be copied too.

[@TecnamTwin]

Xpeng is in serious financial trouble dude.

[@hasanchoudhurymd]

JOBY

[@Didar.Kussain]

👍

[@PhazonSouffle]

I don't understand why these aircraft have to be completely electric. If they had an internal combustion generator instead of a Lithium ion battery then they could easily double the feeble, half-hour flight time.

[@sssbob]

This issue has already been addressed by electric aviation.

[@destinywhitehouse8247]

Video please

[@samirould-ali7815]

Jooo finally

[@cabledrone9348]

This power line powered passenger drone (a.k.a cable drone ) could be another alternative: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q5-ukohre953qNk

[@Exodus26.13Pi]

Not for long

[@Greggspies]

More cartoons

[@pingnick]

🤯

[@JoeyBlogs007]

China loves to copy western designs.

[@olpkol]

haha...

[@ABC-rh7zc]

Never ever fly in a Chinese aircraft. You've been warned :)

[@sleeplessstu]

Almost every one of these designs bares a striking resemblance to EVTOLS designed in the West. Hmmm… Chinese business as usual.

[@lucydon1313]

Most eVTOL designs fall into four categories: Multicopter, Lift+Cruise, Tiltrotor, and Tilting. All designs in each category look similar anyway.

[@sssbob]

China is unable to create an original design for ANYTHING on their own.

[@ElectricAviation]

Well by the same token, Jetson One would be a knock off version of Ehang 184 and the Xpeng X2, which have been around for over 8 years. But I agree, some of the Chinese ones are really similar. The Pantuo is almost a complete Lilium knock off

[@jensensean7118]

@@ElectricAviation Why not copy from and improve on one design which is the most promising? Lilium is beautiful and efficient. No need to meke an angular wheel for originality's sake.

[@lancethrustworthy]

Much of this video has been ruined by Room Reverb. YOU MESSED UP AGAIN! READ AND MAKE CHANGES! - How very sad, that you would present facts with ROOM REVERB that messes up your voice. How funny, that you can't hear it or don't care enough to do it right. 'The funny man who messes up his own videos.' That's who you are. ROOM REVERB distorts your PLOSIVES and FRICATIVES, making what you say harder to understand. Do you understand NOW? IS IT GETTING THROUGH TO YOU??? ROOM REVERB IS SOMETHING YOU SHOULD BE AVOIDING BECAUSE IT RUINS YOUR VIDEO - 'BAD AUDIO RUINS GOOD VIDEO EVERY TIME'. WAKE UP. GROW UP. ASK SOMEONE TO HELP YOU. BECOME A FULL ADULT AND CARE ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING. SHEESH!