The Empire Strikes Back 1 | Why Han/Leia Works But Anakin/Padme Doesn't | Stuff You Like

[@warriorcatskid003]

Young Obi-Wan Kenobi is by far the best thing to come out of the prequel trilogy.

[@paul1780]

I enjoyed everyone but the star crossed lovers tying the Prequel, really the Skywalker Saga...and Jar Jar. I know it's easy to know on Jar Jar. Qui Gon, Mace Windu, Yoda, Bail Organa, Count Dooku, Jango Fett, his Son, R2D2, C3PO, Chewie, everyone but the lead Romance & Jar Jar. What the HELL 😑.

[@coffic]

If only they hadn't shaved his head!

[@crookedmirage9645]

And the Clone Wars Animated Series of course.

[@U2QuoZepplin]

Obi Wan and Young (ish) Sheeve Palpatine (or whatever his first name is?)

[@Richard_Nickerson]

I think John Williams's Duel of the Fates is.

[@no_i_dont_want_no_slugs]

who WOULDN'T have chemistry with Ewan McGregor? that's what i wanna know

[@thomasembleton1467]

The guy has chemistry with coffee in Blackhawk down lol!

[@Danbo22987]

Is it bad that I think Padme would work better in the romance (movie wise at least) if she wasn't such an interesting character outside of it? She is just so cool it's unbelievable she would fall for Anakin

[@tuvelat7302]

That's part of it for sure. He's acting like a whiny kid, not a man. And that she "falls" for him kind of makes you wonder what's wrong with her.

[@blokey8]

I think the sin at the root of all this is that Lucas forgot how he had Obi-Wan describe Anakin. That, and that for a tragic villain's descent to work, you should generally begin with worthy Macbeth or brave Washizu and then go downhill.

[@nurainiarsad7395]

i just assumed it was a result of being ‘professionally’ accomplished but emotionally stunted due to having to be queen while still a child and then senator right after. an extremely sheltered life relationships-wise while simultaneously being formidable in other spheres does make you make weird emotional choices. most people don’t understand this because most people think the accomplishments are harder to achieve so if you have those surely you’re mature and would not make bad relationship choices. but no. there are a minority of people who find the accomplishments easy and relationships really hard. i should know.

[@francesbadger3401]

Also their age gap is seriously creepy. Utterly unbelievable, especially with Anakin acting like a whiny middle-schooler.

[@CleverCover05]

I always imagine if Anakin had been what fanon Revan was, this suave charismatic badass warrior leader that everyone wants to be friends with and/or fuck, it would have made the prequel trilogy so much better. And I bet George thought he was writing that, but he hella wasn't.

[@Valdagast]

On a side note, if you can't get a good performance out of Natalie Portman you're a crappy director. She is such a good actor that it really says a lot about George Lucas as a director.

[@windwalker5765]

Not just Natalie. Liam Neeson. Ewan McGregor. Ian McDiarmid. Samuel L. Motherfucking Jackson. Those movies were stacked with talent, and you had a classic tragic fall story with a massive war as a backdrop. There is no reason that this shouldn't be a terrific movie.

[@Danbo22987]

@@windwalker5765 Ian McDiarmid and McGregor gave good performances still because they understood how to work against Lucas' writing, that's not a criticism of the other actors but those two did well in spite of circumstances really says a lot about how good they are

[@River-pg1uk]

@@Danbo22987 the problem isn’t George wasn’t a good writer just that he didn’t know his own limitations what made the OT so good was how different directors and writers and even the cast would temper George’s vision.

[@MrChickennugget360]

@@River-pg1uk its interesting to look at George Lucas- I think he is good at coming up with grand ideas and concepts but fails in terms of creating people. What helped the Original Trilogy was he had help from Irvine Kershner. In audio commentaries with the two of them Kershner was really good at breaking down humanity in the films- from the Battle of Hoth (showing the soldiers awaiting attack from the walkers) or Han and Leia's scenes. He has a very strong understanding of human emotions, faces and feelings. Lucas always was talking about things like history, mythology or symbolism. Lucas Created Starwars- Kershner helped to make it human

[@River-pg1uk]

@@MrChickennugget360 very true George works best when tempering his vision with others that’s why the OT is so good because people could tell George where’s he went a bit far.

[@zappawoman5183]

Anakin comes across as a moody teenager going through his first crush. He's all angry, edgy and entitled.

[@yoavmor9002]

But that's what he is isn't he?

[@jjbb84x]

True to character. It works for me in that sense. Overall, I like how each trilogy's central romance has a different flavor. Han and Leia were the classic bickering sexual tension. The galaxy's a mess! Of course a princess and a smuggler can fall in love! Anakin and Padme were the more old-fashioned star-crossed lovers. The galaxy is too rigid! Of course it would stand against a Jedi and a Senator falling in love, yes, despite BOTH being in the upper echelons of galactic society! Kylo and Rey, although my least favorite of the set, do represent the more modern trend of favoring dark, edgy bad boys. The FORCE is in such a mess, of course it would stand against a Skywalker(Solo) and a mysterious anomaly(Palpatine) from being together! And while yes, ALL of these moulds are as old as dirt, I think they all correspond well to what's in vogue and what's best for the story each trilogy is trying to tell.

[@Maverick8t88]

Anakin’s character throughout the trilogy is so disturbing it makes Padme look like one of those women who fall in love with serial killers. I spend every moment of watching those two saying to myself “what is she thinking?!”

[@ThotProphet]

He's all rough, coarse, and everywhere.

[@jetblack99]

Jill, I love everything you're saying here and I don't mean to take away from your eloquent observation, but I must say how amazing it is that you took the time to recreate Leia's braided crown hairstyle from Empire. That's true fandom right there. Respect. :)

[@Thetasigmaalpha]

To lose one hand may be considered bad luck, two looks like carelessness.

[@romanlegionhare2262]

I have just learned the importance of being Solo. (At least your hands are safe.)

[@dawn8293]

I understood that reference

[@rose_thyme1254]

When Anakin and Padme meet in Ep2 for the first time in years and Anakin has his crush it feels like Padme isn't interested at all! And honestly feels like Anakin is disrespecting Padme's wishes by going after her as opposed to Leia and Han who have chemistry but outside conflict causes it not to be their first intention

[@Richard_Nickerson]

You don't see Han going against Leia's very outspoken wishes?

[@Richard_Nickerson]

@Sushiirull Han does everything you're *not* supposed to do if you don't want to be accused of the R word. It's a very 1950s and earlier approach to getting a woman. All those stories of men being pushy and not giving up changed from being romantic to creepy and stalkerish years ago.

[@SatyaVenugopal]

Hmm... actually, I have a problem with the writing even in the Han-Leia love story from Empire. It's really only the genuine chemistry between the leads (and the real-life friendship that chemistry comes from) that makes it work. It's incredibly, "Yes, I know your lips say no, but your eyes say yes," rapey on Han's part, especially the bit leading up to their first kiss

[@timy9197]

Her lips don’t say no in that scene

[@SatyaVenugopal]

​@@timy9197 When Han starts massaging her fingers, she says: "Stop that." She says it twice, and then adds, "My hands are dirty." grasping for any reason to say no. He disregards her repeated verbal "Nos" and continues. Then a couple of lines later, he says: "You like me because I'm a scoundrel. There are no scoundrels in your life. To which she replies, "I happen to like nice men." She keeps verbally contradicting him or rejecting what he says. And it continues right up until the moment they kiss: Han: "I'm a nice man." Leia: "No, you're not." Read the dialogue without looking at the body language. Her lips are very much saying no. It's only the body language / chemistry that changes this from a scene where Han forces himself on her to a romantic one.

[@Richard_Nickerson]

Agreed

[@ДмитрийЗеленский-ж7х]

Why can't I upvote this several times? Han is outright creepy.

[@shadowscall7758]

@@SatyaVenugopal Except Body Language is a vital part of communication and the more important part. The words we say actually don't make up most of communication. That is why we have such issues on the internet and over email. Body language and inflection of HOW you say what you say are more important and both of those clearly didn't agree with what she was saying. It does change the scene and rightfully so. Now, you could argue that they shouldn't have had her saying that when she obviously didn't agree, but thats a culture thing (remember, its been almost 40 years since that movie came out) and our culture has changed a lot since it came out.

[@Maverick8t88]

5:02 That. That right there. You just nailed every single problem with the prequels. “All tell and no show”. Irvin Kirshner knew that an audience could make intuitive leaps and understand subtext. GL does not, and the Prequels are full of insults to the audiences intelligence. GL apparently feels like we’re all drooling idiots who have to be spoon fed through a movie. Thus why, in the Not So Special Editions, George feels like he has to add a scene of Vader parking his shuttle and disembarking onto Executor in the middle of a climactic chase from Cloud City disrupting the timing and destroying the climax. 😤

[@Maverick8t88]

As an aside, I would’ve loved to see a big part of Anakin/Obiwan’s fight in ROTS be fueled by jealousy over a love triangle, even just a perceived one on Anakin’s part. The tension you mentioned between Obi and Padme could definitely have been capitalized on for fight fuel.

[@blokey8]

Trish of the Lessons from the Screenplay team makes a good point on the subtext front: there is NO subtext to Anakin and Padme's romance. All they talk about is how they're in love, but they can't be in love because their love is forbidden, but they don't care, however forbidden it may be...

[@nathanglover8938]

I like the theory that Anakin uses the force to manipulate Padme into falling in love with him. That totally fixes this problem of her falling for him in spite of his creepy behavour. Admittedly Padme is always shown to be strong willed, so it doesn't mesh with force suggestion only working on the weak minded (but then again, Anakin spends an awful lot of time around her, including when she's sleeping, dreaming... maybe Star Wars is in a shared universe with Inception!)

[@blokey8]

For me, that just doesn't fly because everything else in the film is trying to... various extents to sell this as A Romance For The Ages. John Williams most of all. Grah. This doesn't deserve Across the Stars!

[@nathanglover8938]

@@blokey8 You're right, and I don't think that's what they were actully going for. But it's a fun theory to kick around :)

[@blokey8]

@@nathanglover8938 Matt Stover's RotS novel doesn't go quite that way, but it does a lot of work to make you believe that Anakin could feel properly betrayed

[@goofyiest]

Have you read Carrie Fisher's book that includes her time with Harrison Ford? It is quite a difficult read, and while it does give background for the chemistry you see on screen, it is not all that you might think.

[@jesscomishen1749]

Oh?

[@darthhodges]

Hayden's screen test with Natalie looks better than anything in the final cut of Episode 2. But it's up to the director and editor which takes end up in the final edit and, being people, they can choose poorly. It's possible a better movie was left on the cutting room floor.

[@electraheart7745]

Carrie Fisher was also a teenager in A New Hope so I don’t think it had to do with Natalie and Hayden being teenagers they just mesh like at all. But we *all* know why Carrie and Harrison had better chemistry....

[@Blendercage]

Cocaine is a hell of a drug

[@atticstattic]

Fisher was 20 when _A New Hope_ started filming...

[@jeffbenton6183]

@@Blendercage Wait, what? I'm naive and innocent I don't know about this!

[@TheGirlChris]

@@jeffbenton6183 Carrie Fisher was open about her substance abuse problems, which were her attempts to self medicate her bipolar disorder. She didn't even remember filming the Holiday Special she was so high.

[@Dafmeister1978]

@@TheGirlChris That may well have been for the best.

[@kelseadirmann3434]

Actually there's a theory that makes Anakin and Padme's lack of chemistry and Anakin's overall creepiness make much more sense, which improves all the bad bits in their love story. The theory goes that Padme wasn't that into him but Anakin couldn't handle any more rejection so he subconsciously was manipulating her with the force. Padme brushes him off as the little boy she knew 10 years ago who was sweet and immature, and is now kinda hot but it'd be weird and inappropriate. Then Anakin starts sending red flags via crappy dialogue and she shuts down, covers the cameras, says stop it you're being creepy. Then on the way to Naboo he's trying to be on better behavior and explains his situation and slowly we see her letting down her guard. While she's smart enough to not be fooled outright "these aren't the droids you're looking for" style, coming from what was set up as the most powerful force user ever subtle influence can make it through once she's more comfortable. Then on Naboo she rejects him repeatedly and he keeps working on lowering her walls and influencing her via force to find his dialogue less creepy more endearing. Then Tattooine happens. Anakin loses control for the first time, but in a very sympathetic way. Rather than be repulsed or scared for her life calling Windu because she's on a strange planet with a genocidal maniac we see her comfort him. Anakin, subconsciously, through the force is demanding comfort, and Padme is unable to resist because Anakin is incapable of controlling it. From then on we see it harder and harder for Padme to disagree with Anakin at all. "Wanna completely disobey orders and probably die saving Obi-Wan?" Sure. "Wanna secretly get married even though that'll get us both fired if not worse?" Sure. "Mind if I get super jealous and almost kill your friend?" What? No! "Are you sure you won't forgive me?" Oh okay, you didn't really mean it. (That happened in Clone Wars) "Wanna rule the galaxy with me after I murder my boss?" Dude you just murdered a room full of children I'm only here to say I'm no longer under your control, you're breaking my heart. Anakin loses control again, over does it and she dies. This is not to say that Anakin was intentionally manipulating Padme, at least at first and there's definite debate on if it was intentional at all, but if you read their interactions through that lens everything from the repeated red flags, to the bad romantic dialogue, to the lack of on screen chemistry between two incredible actors (Natalie Portman was in her mid to late 20s at that point so at least 10 years in the business and a natural) to Padme's highly questionable and out of character decisions to marry and stay with an unstable super powerful jedi who murdered an entire village and also flew into a jealous rage and tried to beat her friend to death just make a lot more sense. Omg sorry for how long this essay turned out.

[@andreagriffiths3512]

And that would actually work

[@cjripley32]

Yeah I think that one of the biggest flaws of the prequel trilogy is that they made Anakin sooo incredibly unlikable from the get-go, creepy and arrogant and antagonistic to Obi Wan. We should have been able to actually like Anakin and root for him so that his turning to the dark side was an actual tragedy that meant something

[@Richard_Nickerson]

1:45 "I love you" Ad break: "lasagna pops!"

[@JillBearup]

😂😂😂

[@warriorcatskid003]

I’d love to see you do a Clone Wars (old or new) review.

[@Asher0208]

Jill, thank you for one of the best explanation I have heard about how good film romances work and why The prequels romance did not. Anakin was definitely too dark/ creepy too soon in the movie and there is no obvious indication that Padme is or should be attracted to him. The only thing I would add is that some are too critical of Anakin. It is his first romantic adventure so of course he is dorky or awkward in his romantic overtures e.g. the sand talk. I also like how he tries to impress her with his powers by “feeding” her apples. Yes they are silly, but I suspect many of us were as bad!

[@alaxwriter8430]

Using all of these movies to help hone my writing and these are still so good.

[@maggiemakgill]

The Han and Leia plot in SW:ESB is basically The African Queen in Space (This is NOT a bad thing The African Queen WORKS and Han and Leia WORKS). Which would make the Sabrina remake the SECOND time Harrison Ford replaced Boggart.

[@Tarantio1983]

Head Canon: Obi-Wan, Anakin and Padme were in a 3-way polyamorous relationship ... But because of The Living Force looking naturally balance itself, it chose to let Obi-Wan to impregnate Padme ... So actually the 2nd generation of Skywalkers we see are actually Obi-Wan's kids, so when Old Ben tells Luke that Vader killed his father (and Yoda comments that Obi-Wan "told Luke the truth from a certain perspective") is all down to the use of past-tense to describe a vision of the future (i.e. Vader cutting Obi-Wan down on the Death Star)! This also handily explains why Obi-Wan has more chemistry with young Vader/Anakin and with Padme, but Anakin and Padme have none ... because Obi-Wan was what made that poly-am triangle function!

[@Ubernerd3000]

The Han/Leia relationship was probably strongly informed by the real life affair Carrie Fischer and Harrison Ford had during the making of the films

[@electraheart7745]

Fisher** idk how you misspelled that

[@Ubernerd3000]

The Outsider I don’t know why you cared enough to snarkily correct me...

[@wilhelmschmitt1867]

@@electraheart7745 it's the german way of writing Fisher and seeing an ü in his name makes me think he's german or from another germanic language speaking country

[@Richard_Nickerson]

@@electraheart7745 Because it's a common variant of the name, smartass

[@katiehelms8903]

Blinks Anidala is my OTP and I love them -

[@tenkenroo]

Can we get an analysis of the last fight scene. I honestly think it’s the best saber fight in the series

[@sneaksyranger]

Stuff like this has made me like the fan theory that Anakin subconsciously used the Force to "compel" Padme to love him.

[@frankharr9466]

I never saw I Know like that. I like it. What if the Padme Anikan scene could be rescorred? Soemthign with a lot of minor chords, scattered, skittery.

[@Halbared]

Ahh, when Brits used to pronounce Leia, as Lee-a. :D

[@kvoltti]

Padme: No we can not be together Also Padme: Let me just wear a more revealing and slightly bondagy outfit every time I see you.

[@Valdagast]

Favorite episode! All three parts but I only mark this one.

[@JillBearup]

You know, it’s one of my favourites too! Star Wars + shipping...best combination. :D

[@pothos9913]

Padme and Anakin have the chemistry of a stagnant pool on a gundark ranch.

[@jonskowitz]

I think I've seen better chemistry between vinegar and a box of baking soda

[@kdwoodbridge1338]

I love you @Jill Bearup.

[@Nikodeamus]

i always thought that Anakin and padmé isn't technically a love story...i think its like magically induced Stockholm syndrome. i think Anakin did actually love padmé (or at least the idea of the gorgeous space queen who helped liberate him from slavery and helped him find the jedi path), but she didn't feel the same way until spending enough time around Anakin to be affected by his overwhelming force ability's. its established that a mind trick cannot work on a strong mind, fair enough. under normal circumstances water also cannot penetrate rock (I'm using an analogy, just go with it) ... but when you add time into the mix, water can grind a mountain into a canyon. I think the same is true about the Jedi mind trick. even a strong mind can succumb after enough time, the force basically eroding the will of the...victim?...victim. Anakin spent a long LONG time protecting padmé and presumably thinking constantly "god i love padmé ... please love me back! love me...LOVE ME!". i think slowly he turned her, against her better judgment, to loving him using the force. this erosion of will could also have been what weakened her during child birth. dying from a broken heart? that's just bad writing... dying because a powerful space wizard has been screwing with your very soul to a point where your will is all but broken makes more sense especially when you factor the dark side into things.

[@nurainiarsad7395]

actually that could also do double duty to explain why jedi aren’t allowed to marry/ have relationships.

[@rareroe305]

"Could I get a new Jedi? The one you sent keeps giving me 'do me' eyes."

[@andreagriffiths3512]

Anakin and Padme omg it felt exactly like “oh shit! I’ve got two characters (Luke and Leia) whose parents are named Anakin and Padme and I need to recast Anakin because he’s played by a child actor and Padme is played by a teenager and the age gap won’t fly for a romance in the next two films. Oh shit that isn’t working much better either and it now looks like I’ve shoved them into a hole that doesn’t fit (and it must fit) so I’ll hammer them in and it’ll be fine.” Shudders.

[@baanibarnes9711]

Oh dear, my toes curled so much at the Padme/Anakin 'love scene' (the sand . . . aaaaaagh) they ended up over the back of my head. George Lucas undeniably has a great imagination and vision, but script writer he ain't. To be fair, he has admitted that himself - here's an idea George, outline your ideas to a more capable writer and get them to polish it up into a coherent, non-cringy dialogue, not like he can't afford to hire someone decent is it? The middle three films, Anakin's journey to the DARK SIDE had so much potential to be cinema magic but got totally lost in the technology of the special effects which seemed to be all G.L. was interested in but as we all know by now, you need more than outstanding effects to make a stunning film. For me, story comes first, including decent dialogue/character interplay, followed by good characterisation and character chemistry, largly down to hiring good/interesting/competent/likeable actors. Splashing out wads of cash and spending it in all the wrong places will give you an initial impact but no longevity, I can't really say I am dying to go back and watch those middle three again, the dialogue is obviously terrible and don't get me started on Jar-Jar Binks, ugh . . .

[@smcasas9367]

Natalie Portman was actually 20 during the shooting of Episode II, just barely not a teenager anynore. Since she was a teenager in the Phantom Menace and the Attack of the Clones is 10 years later, she's definitely not a teenager anymore.

[@questprotector]

is princess Leia a joan of arc story?

[@geoffroi-le-Hook]

Ford and Fisher worked together in Episode IV, but Christensen was not in Episode I

[@BanazirGalpsi1968]

I was a Luke and Leia shipper prior to ROTJ, but I was perfectly willing to accept Lanioh, ( leia and han) if that's where they were going, but even if the princess winds up with pirate, she and Luke MUST absolutely NOT be siblings.

[@BanazirGalpsi1968]

Best friends, is ok, not twins, not brother and sister.

[@Richard_Nickerson]

Because Han is a realistic mix of charismatic and misogynistic while the Anakin/Padme stuff is like watching teens learning to flirt through Shakespeare.

[@Shamelesscritique1]

Anakin only ever came off as whiny and creepy...and doesn't help that we and padma are initially introduced to him as annoying slash overly chipper toddler who shows absolutely no signs of being "damaged" or having any real darkness in him...

[@Wright805]

2:09-2:17 That's because it is an entirely different continuity. Pretty much every story told in the cartoon had already been told better in the various tie-in novels and comics. No Ahsoka Tano. No Savage Oppress. No character assassination of Barriss Offee. Asajj Ventress is a Rattataki etc. Regardless of what's 'officially' canon, I consider that continuity to be the real one.

[@PatFarrellKTM]

Great video. I agree with your analysis on how Han/Leia works. But you did this video before Carrie Fisher's "the princess diarist" was released. Perhaps folks clued into Hollywood knew of her hot affair with Harrison back in 1977, but the book was the first I'd heard of it. Do you think that maybe their great chemistry was more than acting? Maybe some of their real life chemistry was showing up on film. I also blame George Lucas, who has both writer and director credit for how badly Anakin/Padme did.

[@VictoriaStarratt]

“I don’t like sand” I’m sorry I had to

[@vortega472]

Somehow the line, "I want to get you on a slow Falcon to Bespin" isn't quite the pick up line I thought it would be.

[@drrocketman7794]

Yeah the Anakin/ Padme love scenes are...awkward and stilted.

[@bradclifton5248]

I would argue nat p is very much proven at this stage and known to be capable. But, most in more dramatic stuff.

[@craigslaunwhite579]

There is the theory that darth creeper was using the force to mind control padme to fall in love.

[@xCorvus7x]

Yeah, and considering his disappointment in all other relations, it would be somewhat sensible if he "helped" a bit with her falling for him to be sure. But that most likely is not what they were going for.

[@soddof7972]

Because we got invested in the characters?

[@tommymuggus1221]

Couldn't agree more. Have been recently been re-watching the films and I basically had to skip through anything with Anakin and Padme on screen together.

[@guyjackson4165]

Are you sure this is a video about TESB?

[@adxthree4199]

Do you do any sort of (non-sexual) ASMR recording? Because your first word just punched my ticket to my sleepy town in the best way. Just a lovely timbre and speaking style.

[@청솔향-g9u]

We need Alejandro!

[@bradclifton5248]

I'd suggest a more motherly relationship, given age gap, how you would transition from that. Or, a stronger, queen/ body guard angle at least it would have created tension.

[@stephaniepage4334]

W which ship is more popular?Anakin/ padme, han / leia or reylo

[@U2QuoZepplin]

Okay Ursa....... it is then. The line spoken by Padme , "it makes me feel uncomfortable," is one of those notorious lines which just doesn't work for me . Padme could have replied "because i asked you not to, please Anakin." It makes no sense that Padme goes and falls head over heels in love with him then. I dunno...... I'm probably asking too much. There probably wasn't enough time in the space of one or two movies to flesh out a whole "War and Peace," style love story . But I'm pretty much as sure as damnit that there are better ways to explain how Anakin Skywalker and Padme Amidala love each other so much and for that natter why she dies after giving birth. It's one of many lazy kop out points which the prequels and the sequels too.

[@MyLPMaster001]

In a few hundred years, Star Wars will probably be taught alongside Shakespeare

[@andreagriffiths3512]

It’s already been written as a Shakespeare play and the books are awesome. They’re written by Ian Doescher “William Shakespeare’s Star Wars” Part the First: The Phantom of Menace for example. I’d highly recommend.

[@ДмитрийЗеленский-ж7х]

This is what Anakin SHOULD be. He falls because he was already vulnerable, he becomes bad because he has the tendency for bad things (his past, indeed, cemented it a lot). And, of course, he is somewhat too clingy but seriously, compared to HAN?! Han literally forced himself on Leia (see Satya Venugopal's comment), AND Han's older (29 BBY? Damn, ten years older, 32yo at V episode), while Anakin is just a teenager with usual problems of self-control expectable from a teenager (again, Jedi Order not exactly being a good psychological therapy place doesn't help with that) - and Padmé, being somewhat older, understands him being young and untempered, even too much so - which eventually kills her when Palpatine guides him to fall to his worst traits, already present in him.

[@jilliankratish4651]

"I really love the Empire Strikes Back and I want to hug it, but if I went on about all the things I liked about it, we'd be here all day." Please do this video. My love for SW really suffered when I left the theater after watching TPM, trying to convince myself I wasn't disappointed... 😢 And I was one of those kids who got all the EU books I could. Anything that can help rekindle my love affair with the original trilogy is more than welcome.

[@pufthemajicdragon]

7:28 - 4th of all, you are not Han Solo

[@Caseytify]

Just now watched this. Hayden Christensen isn't that bad as an actor. Watch his work in My Life As A House with Kevin Kline.

[@goldenscales]

Well said, m'dear!

[@ChristopherStandardTime]

7:25, listen to this. 7:40, OMFG LISTEN TO THIS.

[@timothymorgan9035]

This was my greatest problem with Episode 1,2,and 3. That is why Obi Wan and Asoka are my all time favorite characters from the movies(Obi Wan) and The Clone Wars(Asoka,and Obi-Wan). Everything else in Episode 1,2,and 3 was great.

[@Jan-gh7qi]

To be honest, as much as I don't like thoese movies, I could kinda feel some chemistry in 50 shades. Some sort of "we are in this hell together" - bonding between the actors. And the more cheesy and cringy it got, the more they shined if you could read in their faces, that they don't even try to take it serious any more.

[@deaeagle]

Holy cow! You are a believer. I think. Either that or you’re worried about demonization. But I just realized you have never said “God” nor have you spoken a swear word in your videos. Please set me straight one way or the other. In any case, I love your content. You seem to be the consummate creator for KZbin

[@JillBearup]

I mean, I'm a Christian and also kids watch these videos and also let's not anger The Algorithm, so restraint seems the order of the day on at least three counts 😁

[@Brievel]

@@JillBearup You are the only creator I've found (besides maybe Bernadette Banner) who I went "Oh cool! I can watch while my kids are in the room!" and I _still_ think that after watching a dozen videos. Even for my own sake, I appreciate the clean language. I didn't grow up with cussing and I still have an instinctive dislike of it.

[@TheFarCobra]

Leia had actual autonomy, Padme was standing around waiting to become pregnant so that she could stop being anything but 2 dimensional. Much like “50 shades of 2 dimensions”

[@davidhenning6179]

This just reminds me of how George's ex-wife really made the romance work in the OT.

[@transtubular]

I was still a kid when the Empire Struck Back. When AotC hit theaters I was a fair bit into being an adult. I had always imagined it was...different, better. It really disappointed me soo much.

[@exeacua]

Unpopular opinion: Han and Leia only worked in Reurn of the Jedi.

[@Brievel]

Clone Wars the series salvaged Anakin for me. I hated Anakin, couldn't stand him, went into it determined to hold onto that. And Matt Lanter just... blew it away. CW!Anakin is so much better than Movie!Anakin I just can't.

[@KevinOutdoors]

This is only one of a thousand reasons why those three movies (which I shant name) completely suck. As you point out, the fun bits are with Obi Wan.

[@brydon5721]

Star Wars is a fun adventure, with hyperdrives and space wizards and good-vs-evil, but it is not the greatest writing ever filmed and treating the OT as such does the rest of the franchise a disservice. What saves a lot of the awful dialogue in the OT is the chemistry between the characters/actors, which isn't just missing but doesn't exist between Anakin and Padmé--I do wonder if the story had been tweaked and Anakin made much older in TPM, so that the two actors could've worked together on the first film so that they might've have a more natural relationship when it came to filming the second if that might've saved it, but who knows.

[@Raienya]

There are so many reasons that the prequels are trash that I can't list them. You absolutely nailed what was wrong between Anakin and Padme, though that just scratches the surface.

[@MrAlsachti]

Thank you for another moralistic commentary on the internet. Qualifying awkward dialog and clumsy behavior as "creepy" and "gross". When Padme says "Please don't look at me like that.", with this tone of voice, we are supposed to understand that she loves him, has difficulty to resist him. "Why not?" is therefore a quite normal thing to say if you are expecting this moment to end with a passionate kiss. But then Padme answers coldly "It makes me feel uncomfortable", and we realise that we (and Anakin) misinterpreted her words, that they were supposed to be taken literally. That's not a so bad dialog, in fact. Moreover, saying that you should not attempt to say certain things to women if you don't have the charm of Harrison Ford is rather hurtful for all the men that don't have the charm of Harrison Ford (quite a lot, actually). "I don't think she likes me watching her" is not really something an abuser would be concerned about, quite the contrary (except if Anakin was masturbating while saying it, I don't remember the scene that well). It could have been better written, sure ("I don't feel comfortable watching her", then Obiwan answering "No, Anakin, you think that SHE doesn't like you watching her, that's what makes you uncomfortable", Anakin looking vulnerable and Obiwan psychologist ), but that does not make Anakin a pervert and an abuser.

[@نادرالیراحمان]

The prequels failed because you cannot tell such a long story in three movies.

[@Danbo22987]

It would've helped had they condensed Phantom and Clones into one movie, then had Episode II be based DURING the clone wars. Finally, having Revenge of the Sith more or less unchanged

[@GeneralBulldog54]

@@Danbo22987 I agree to a point. Having Phantom and Clones as a singular movie kick off the prequels and Ep II during the Clone Wars would've been amazing, but Revenge of the Sith I would've invested more in Padme's role in forming the eventual Rebel Alliance and her ties with the Organa's further stretched out. Having her die of a broken heart feels off for her character.

[@Danbo22987]

@@GeneralBulldog54 Oh I 00% agree, the deleted scenes in Sith with her were basically her only arc in the movie and I always watch them right before watch Sith because to me they are canon

[@williamchamberlain2263]

You could have if Lucas wasn't 1) crazy, 2) a bad director, and 3) wasted so much time on comic relief and a bad CGI habit

[@frankmartin2503]

Is it because one is well written and the participants have real chemistry and the other doesn’t?

[@krissa9664]

Han and leia is a very crappy love story, han is a quite plainly a piece of crap, and leia is barely a character