The Encounter

this is for educational purposes.
I went live on tiktok with this person... I thought she wanted to share her work and say hi. I did censor names and bad words. This is what transpired...
What are your thoughts on this?

[@cheriebegay8965]

she’s drunk 🫤

[@MMKnittingandCrochet]

Or high, half of what she was saying either didn’t make sense or she would say something then disagree with what she just said 😂

[@michellethompson9134]

She sounds very impaired, what’s her name?

[@silvergirl7810]

Razz just keep doing your art- I have been listening to you since you started and I have NEVER heard anything but a humble artist that is excited about sharing his love of beadwork! I don’t know who this person is but they sound very “off”. I’m sure I speak for many when I say I am very grateful for you taking the time making all the videos for all of us that love beadwork in this community. Thank you. ❤

[@leotalucero5213]

Razz, I appreciate you sharing your talent and showing how to bead different items. Please continue.

[@amberd6063]

Razz, I have watched several of your videos. I follow you to get your tips, hints, and advice on many things as I am just starting out on my beading journey. I have never heard a word of discontent come from you about another artist. Please know that many who follow you also, feel the same way. Keep showing us these wonderful skills and, help us walk our journeys.

[@CaroleHenderson-o6g]

I have been beading for many years. That being said your quality of work is so beyond mine. I appreciate all of your tutorials. Thank you so very much.

[@lyndzereynolds2439]

You are incredibly patient and kind. She’s making absolutely no sense, and sounds very jealous.

[@CreativePlansWithMichelle]

She sounds drunk LMAO and she can’t give you one example of where or when you said something wrong.

[@cmbergersct3492]

I wondered about that, too. Her unwillingne6to provide examples is how my alcoholic ex showed me his ability to reason was extremely impared even though he rarely slurred his words.

[@CBSugarful]

Just be you, Razz. This lady is speaking in her own circles. I think there are levels in everything. We all got to start somewhere.

[@jannapackard3910]

I have learned so much from you. You cannot please everyone all the time. You are a master of your craft and are so generous to share. This person has her opinion. Ignore her and be the great person you are.

[@kimberlyjames5180]

Love your videos...love everything you bead and design...I am a beginner beader and I love how you demonstrate your techniques...working up the courage to try the 13's and 15''s beads...I wish I didnt have sausage fingers...lol. that person needs to go smudge herself...miigwech!

[@dawnfamulare5516]

Keep teaching and beading.... Beautiful work💜... Blessings

[@ShawnaGNana530]

I'm so sorry you were mistreated by such a foul person for no reason. You are an amazing person, extremely humble, and an amazing teacher in your lives and videos. Keep doing what you do ❤️

[@tsmoker4022]

This woman is messed up and playing childish games. Razz keep your head up she's clearly jealous of your beadwork and trying to look for excuse to get mad at you. Your clearly here to show your talents and to educate people like my self I'm a Canadian native and I like to bead as well and your videos inspired me to upload shorts of my bead work.. keep up your great work. There will always be people trying to knock you down but you know what, we get back up and fight again. and you know what you are helping and inspiring razz person

[@janmce8454]

PLEASE don’t concern yourself any longer with this woman! She doesn’t have a leg to stand on. You are so super humble about your beading ability. Keep doing what you’re doing, we love you and your work. I’ve NEVER heard you disrespect ANYONE!! WE LOVE YOU, RAZZ!

[@DAiken-jz1iu]

I have never heard Razz mention anything bad about anyone. 😮

[@sweetbumblebees247]

She was literally making things up. Someone on his live asked him for advice on starting to bead and he recommended that they go to someone who uses bigger beads. (not even her!) and this girl decided it was her chance to be a big hater for no reason. And now she's playing victim after this

[@kdtarabell]

I just started to learn bead embroidery, I have learned so much, I have never heard you say anything bad about anyone.I love your teaching. I think she is a little off or maybe a little drunk. Everyone has their own way of teaching beading, just keep doing what you are doing. Keep beading, you are very good at what you do. KirstenD Canada

[@ayooazhdooni8972]

This Sandra lady needs help. “There aren’t levels to beading” to “I believe everyone has different levels”. Her words hold no water. She did not have a complete coherent thought & did not have a complete coherent sentence. I am praying for her. May she find the healing that she desperately is crying out for. You handled the conversation well Razz. Don’t let this stop you from doing your art. It’s just a projection that has nothing to do with you. The beading community doesn’t need this lateral violence & she just exposed her intentions to the beading community.

[@deeziejones6595]

I’ve enjoyed watching your videos and have learned techniques I’ve struggled with. I appreciate your work immensely, thank for you.

[@melodyalberti1548]

I have never witnessed you be involved in drama of any kind. I have never witnessed you get involved in gossip or jealousy. You keep to yourself and work hard and you even help and give to others as you do. You have been so humble. I have so much respect for you not only as an artist but as a person. I'm sorry you had this put on you. Keep doing you! This person sounds like they are dealing in ego, jealousy and who knows what else.

[@andreawolfe25]

I have watched your videos and I have learned so much from you. No one can deny the work you do is difficult for beginners but its inspiring to know someday I will be that good. I have never heard you say anything nk g bad about another header. Keep being you 🥰 I'm blessed to have learned from you. Mi gwetch !

[@reactblack1707]

The only person I have ever heard Razz be critical of is himself... In fact, too much sometimes in MY humble opinion. So to accuse Razz of putting "so many people down" is ludicrous. The work IS technical. And he has been more than generous in creating and publishing comprehensive tutorials on this channel to do exactly what he explains in this video, which is to archive these techniques and educate people. Point blank, I feel embarrassed for this individual and I feel she owes Razz a public apology. Just my .02 cents.

[@michellethompson9134]

Agree

[@maggielamar1830]

Agree

[@terriwms]

Even hear her man say "my coworker just died, go fight people in another rooms" I doubt she even remembers anything 🤬 one of those drunks that provokes till getting told off and then plays victim 😑 very familiar with that type of drunk 🥴 🙄

[@LikeFireNice]

Yep Drunks like to argue! That was my first thought when she kept with her repeated pokes in hopes of provoking Razz. Then goes on to brag and boast on herself 😆😮🥱

[@DizzyGirlGnomes]

I STILL commend you for not only allowing this person to express themselves on your live but how calm, composed and dignified you remained. Can we also note that even though you stopped beading your hands still captivated my attention without a puppet! Lol Keep on being you and I look forward to your next live!

[@victoriamcintosh5122]

As an Annishinaabe Grandmother, mother, sister, and residential school survivor from three generations, I wanted to thank you, Razzmatazz, for your helpful video on beading. I have returned to beading after watching it, and I couldn't be more grateful. I wanted to express my gratitude by saying "Chii Miigwich." Your visual and auditory instructions were clear, and they spoke volumes to me. As an artist and educator myself, I urge you not to get involved in conversations like the one at hand. They only breed jealousy and condescension, and they go in circles with no proof of anything. It's giving me a headache, and I'm impressed with your patience. You're not just a beader; you're also an educator. If you can teach a granny like me, then you're on the right path. Finally, please don't feed the monsters. In our language, "Ma No" means it doesn't matter, as my grans used to say.

[@TK-cd8hz]

Keep doing you! I really think this person was under the influence of something, they didn’t make sense at all. You’re work is stunning and I admire you talent so much! Keep your head up and keep sharing your talent!

[@doreencardinal3799]

100% agree with this! I’m sorry but there is a level to beadwork. My beadwork when I first started was trash. Now it is so much better and I would love to get to this level! I wouldn’t have given her 10 seconds of my time. She’s here on his platform acting up! My work…I’m global, i’m a 5th generation silversmith “if some people could do on your level” here she’s saying there’s levels and boasting about herself. Mah sit down!! His stuff is difficult. Everyone would be doing this if it wasn’t difficult!!

[@debburson8047]

Just WOW. Razz, you keep doing you, Brother. Sis has some serious issues she needs to deal with.

[@reighnie2857]

Wow! I'm surprised you entertained that for that long. She made no sense. There were no facts, no receipts and at times she didn't even know what she was talking about. It was so high school. The only thing I gathered is she some how got her feelings hurt because of what "people said". There are most definitely levels of skills acquired in beading; just as you explained. Not everyone will excel in those skills like in everything else in life. I don't believe lack of those skills has anything to do with the amount of heart or love a person puts into their creations. I believe they are two separate things and maybe that's what she was mixing up? Because she kept saying there wasn't levels but using the word levels. At the end of the day we are artists putting our hearts into our work and hoping people will see it the way we do. We have to have thick skin to do that. But this whole people said this and that is straight bs. It's childish and to mention how many people are in the live and to be so petty is just embarrassing. Don't let this stop you. I remember an elder once pulled me aside when I was about to give up and asked me if I had ever seen a bucket of crabs. I told him no and he told me Natives are like a bucket of crabs. They are all in the same place and if one is about to make it up and out of the bucket they will start to pull it back down into the bucket. This situation made me think of that because of the way she kept trying to prove to you that she was just as good if not better than you. It's sad and I wish it wasn't like that but I've seen so much of it in the Native community not just with art, but blood quantum, rez vs city native, etc... So much division. Even though it can be disheartening, what you are doing is important, don't let the noise distract you from your intention and goal of preservation.

[@leslychappell9421]

This reminds me of a Native comedian talking about how Rez Girls fight…”I heard you been talkin’’bout me!!😠”

[@angelenarogers7352]

And it's definitely levels to bead work

[@LikeFireNice]

Exactly!! Most Definitely

[@18sixty46]

🙏🦅🌟❤️ Keep doing you! This jealous, pitiful women needs prayers, and GOD! 🌟you don't need to justify,defend yourself against her. You are HUMBLE, smart , strong, true to our ways , creative and great full. 🦅🦅 🙏More blessings to come your way .

[@roguesparrow3022]

I love you man, I look up to you as a friend /mentor. You keep doing what you are doing. This is coming out of nowhere. The lateral violence is bs being thrown at you like this. You are and will always be a friend and my family, period. You are an excellent teacher, an amazing human. Fok this lady for real.

[@jobianchi2760]

Razz I love your videos. I am having a hard time being charitable towards her. She is rude and just having a rant with no purpose other than trying to bring you down. What difference does it make how many people are on a live? Most busy people watch later when they have time, the main thing to us is the content is there when we have a chance to view it. She is very patronizing and sees no viewpoint other than her own. The comments on levels/technical are senseless and convoluted. That is what I love about listening to you, you verbalize your thoughts extremely well, explain techniques perfectly for me. I am sorry I could only make it halfway through this, she was ruining my day. I am not Native American, I am half Irish and love beading. My grandsons are Choctaw and Cherokee heritage, I try to learn what I can of their heritage because that side of their family has no interest in that at all so I am grateful that your videos are available. She is hurting my heart, see ya later.

[@denisemacdonald1970]

I just came across this…a little late I guess. That was a whole lot of contradictions. I don’t think she came with a strong point. I think she couldn’t decide who’s side she was on. Keep up the great work Razz. You’ve taught me a lot and inspired me to try more because I am new at this. Very helpful. Thank you.

[@fivesnipes9614]

She needs to mind her business and stop being so jealous of your beautiful work that we all love and enjoy

[@leticiakennar6925]

She is nuts! You are amazing. I have been watching you for along time. You are so sweet and humble. I have never heard you put anyone down. She doesn't even make since. I am a beader and you inspire me so much. Ignore her. Keep up tge great work.

[@notahlori403]

I personally don't know Razz, but the times I've watched his lives, he has never been disrespectful. Not even put anybody down. Idk what this lady's on...

[@melissagrandbois7405]

I love your beadwork Razz

[@rockymountainlady]

Wow, that person???? I've just spent 5 days binging on your videos and shorts, not once did I even hear a tone of arrogance in your voice. After 60+ years of beading myself, you've already taught me a few tricks, there most definitely are different levels of beadwork, esp. with our traditional bead art. So proud of how you handled that noise. Your hands spelled "Warrior" Keep up the good work Brother"

[@maggielamar1830]

Ya’at’eeh Razzmatazz! I can tell she’s full ofsh** ! Everyone has there own. You are a beautiful person and a great beader! Keep up the good work Razzmatazz! 🙏🏽❤️✊🏾

[@marianh4566]

She may have you confused with another person

[@joeniemiranda5668]

Your work iss Amazing!!! wowA

[@MuLtiPa55]

Razz has literally NEVER talked bad about anyone ever. It's not in his nature. I know him outside of Tiktok/KZbin. He is a genuine soul with a kind heart and a great sense of humor. All he has ever done is try to help others. Even in times when he was struggling himself, he still donated beadwork that he could have sold to help himself in order to help others. She had no business coming in the public eye with her complaints. She had no receipts, no witnesses, no point. Period. She just rambled on and made no sense at all. The fact that she kept on making sure to say how great SHE is about her silver smithing shows her true intentions. She's projecting how SHE acts onto him, and it's not fair, and it should never have happened. Period. You can't tell someone they act better than everyone else and proceed to brag about how you're world wide etc etc. You're literally projecting your own behavior onto someone who doesn't deserve it. She needs some serious prayer.

[@laurcore1985]

You and your video’s are amazing! I rarely ever subscribe to anything and I subscribed to yours immediately after seeing 1 short video. Your work and personality are incredible! Please keep up the amazing work!!! This woman sounded under the influence, and part of that influence is jealousy. Poor lady is suffering and I hope she can get the help she needs, so ignore her baseless unsubstantiated accusations.

[@sarahcoffey-g4h]

"Google me" 😂 she just drunk trying to promote herself.

[@tammystick1645]

Razz keep your technique and blow off the crazy 😂😂😂

[@Bre-nr8hg]

Wow! That woman doesn't know what she's talking about . Ignore her.

[@kellyroseobennick975]

Man, Razz, this chick is wild. I don't even know who she is, I want to know. But your work is amazing. And not once have you ever been mean or disrespectful to anyone. You have always been very helpful with everyone. Don't sweat her, she don't know what she's talking about.

[@alysodapop5214]

None of us in the beading community let alone Razz should have to deal with lateral violence. The beading community has always been supportive of each other, let’s keep it that way. There are fundamentals to everything, we didn’t just flop out of the womb knowing how to bead 🤷🏻‍♀️. Sounds like projection & insecurity, it’s unfortunate. Of course will be praying for her 🙏🏽.

[@andreawolfe25]

She sounds jealous 😂

[@Crazy_Christine84]

I was drunk and still didn’t understand this pathetically petty individual. Lol 😂 So sadly embarrassing on her part, too!! 😮

[@huhgangmenace3553]

She can't even name when razz 'disrespected her'. Sounds like she just clout chasing on these beading streets.

[@allysiayork5761]

Razz is sooooo humble! I’ve never heard him put anyone down and I’ve been in tons of his lives on TT. SMH this lady is just jealous and making drama that doesn’t even exist.

[@cynthiacarl6391]

This lady is sick! Sounds like jealousy motivated!

[@betsypartridge4854]

I watch your tutorials a lot and I haven't seen or heard you do anything that she says you've done. She won't answer direct questions or give specific details. Keep doing what you are doing and I wouldn't ask you to change a thing. Thank you for sharing this call. She obviously has a issue but can't tell you or show you exactly where you said or did these things .

[@queensugar4953]

She really needs to work on herself. She's carrying a lot of negative energy.

[@mzallen71]

Omg, I only got about 12 minutes into this clip before I stopped. Obviously, the person was inebriated and feeling some kind of way. She imagined this scenario where you said something about her due to her own self-doubts and self-worth view. Instead of giving you actual examples of your being this person she believed in her thoughts. I have only been following you for about 6 months now and I enjoy watching your videos very much. I like watching your creative process and your work is beautiful. Just remember haters only hate themselves. You keep doing you, there are way more fans and followers of your work than this one person. Keep that bright light shining. Have a fabulous week!

[@angelenarogers7352]

When and where she just wanted to be validated. Like lady go find you something safe to do

[@angelenarogers7352]

And she sounds under the influence

[@lisasweetgrass2271]

❤️BEADING IS MEDICINE 🙏

[@cmbergersct3492]

Wow, congratulations. Looks like you have your first hater. Definitely s lot of misplaced anger, jealousy focused on you. Thank you for practicing freedom of speech! I hope your dignity had a therapeutic effect on the stranger. I am extremely grateful to YOU because I am getting back into beading after 35 years and your help is essential

[@nmbrice]

She is not making any sense and is rambling. She sounds jealous. She says “a lot of people…” What people? She can’t even give specifics. I commend you for keeping your cool and not lowering herself to her level. You do you: being respectful, an awesome and talented beader and artist, a teacher.

[@cynthiacarl6391]

This lady needs to move on! Don’t watch if you don’t like something! I’ve never heard him put someone down! Every person has their own style

[@beloitrose]

two different generation i suspect.. i feel bad you were treated this way when you answered her saying hey i dunno who you are even.. glad you put it out in the open bro

[@clairebear206]

She’s maaaaaad 😂 hang up.

[@lorilenz7006]

"Karen's" in every culture 😞

[@kimberlyjames5180]

😂

[@theresamccue7766]

Is she loaded or confused shes dont even know where and when he spoke about her.. very sad to do this to another artist let alone another person ...

[@rosannasanabria3614]

Wow, she is on one. Like, repeating the same thing over and over will makes more sense. Not true. You help many explore their creative side. I adore your work and dedication.

[@MistyxMarie.]

This was so wrong on so many levels. Don't listen to a word of it Razz, you've been so helpful and kind.

[@sheilachen2908]

Reporting who? Reporting you? I think this lady is out of line and so disrespectful…some ppl need to be chill…I have not heard Razz talk bad about anyone or their beadwork. Razz is a good guy and his beadwork is so awesome and it shows. This lady is just all jelly bcuz Razz is showing ppl how to bead, showing and teaching others how he does his work bcuz I personally have learned a lot from him since I started beading. And I really love his KZbin, TikTok, and live. And talking about how he needs to give ppl a chance?!? Huh?!? This lady is on crack or drunk bcuz She’s a broken record. The way I see it Razz is giving a chance for ppl to learn how to bead from through his platform. Razz good job in standing your ground bcuz even though you explained- she would just repeat it - like hello razz just said that. Lol And different levels to beading is disrespectful?? Huh?? Lol she’s completely nonsense. There is different levels to beading and I am a beginner beading and I’m not mad or hurt bcuz I’m learning still. Geez ppl need to stop being so sensitive and stop taking things the wrong way. Anyways… Razz - keep doing what you’re doing. Your work is awesome and beautiful. Stay up and stay blessed.

[@mariebom8145]

Who is this lady

[@bessiemendez2034]

Wow.. I now this happened few months ago. But when she says So many people said this & So many people said that. So who are all these people? Honestly when someone says "So many people" it's usually just 1 person who don't like something you said or they took offense to something. Everyone can have their opinions & she went about this all wrong. And why the heck is she repeqting herself? Sounds like a person who is under the influence & trying to reason.

[@CarlosTorres-el6wp]

This girl is sooo mad she doesn't have the same talent as you. I've never heard you talk down on anyone, you are selling your templates to help people become as good as you and you don't even have to do that. She has no idea what she is talking about.

[@cree_VI]

sounds like karen 🤭

[@nativeandindigenuscraftcre433]

Hi bud thanks for video if you need to talk I care about you here I had to change my channel name so if you need to talk I am here for you thanks and good luck bud

[@sweetbumblebees247]

And now I'm going to tell her tf off

[@queensugar4953]

Do you know who it is?

[@sweetbumblebees247]

@@queensugar4953 yep! And she's acting like she didn't do anything wrong and she's the victim

[@tammystick1645]

Honestly I feel she just wants drama to get attention 🤦🏻‍♀️to up herself 🤧🤧🤧

[@debbiewatkins5593]

Just ignore this woman ! I feel she is jealous of you ... I have never heard a negative comment from you ....

[@dorothymtpleasant9847]

I don't under..... What's going on?🤔 😁😁

[@sweetbumblebees247]

She made up in her head that Razz was talking about her when in reality, a person on his live asked him for advice on beginning to bead and he recommended a person who actually has classes and uses bigger beads this girl decided he was talking ish about her and she is clearly drunk. And went on this ridiculous rant. He has NEVER said he was better than anyone ever. She's delusional

[@kellyroseobennick975]

Razz, I think she is just clout chasing. Trying to stir drama up, so she can get more followers. Keep up the good work. I envy your work and strive to be as good as you.

[@beverlykerr219]

Huh?

[@toniarebstein7977]

She's drunk

[@cynthiacarl6391]

Had to quit watching because she was so out of line!