The End Game-November through January on Guadalcanal with Dave Holland-Episode 124

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Unauthorized History of the Pacific War Podcast

Unauthorized History of the Pacific War Podcast

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This week Seth and Bill welcome back historian Dave Holland to talk about the last few weeks on Guadalcanal as the 2nd Marine Division, 2nd Raider Battalion and US Army attempt to wipe out the remaining Japanese on the island. The trio discusses the Long Patrol, Gifu, Sea Horse and Galloping Horse as the campaign ashore winds mercifully down to a finale.
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@FlukeTog
@FlukeTog Жыл бұрын
This spring I’ll collect all the hand written and drawn documents, orders, maps, and photos in our possession passed down. There’s bound to be some pieces to a puzzle mixed in. I will get that stuff to Dave. My grandad would have liked him. Semper Fi
@flparkermdpc
@flparkermdpc 6 ай бұрын
What a wonderful tribute. And Dave will be VERY grateful. You may be starting something much bigger. I hope so!
@Jakal-pw8yq
@Jakal-pw8yq 5 ай бұрын
That's a very great and unselfish thing to do and you know that Dave will treat it with respect and reverence and pass that information on down the line! This is how history and the memories of your ancestors stay alive
@jeffreymartin8448
@jeffreymartin8448 Жыл бұрын
Dave Holland is able to recite such detail. Almost as if he was at each battle. While engaged in solidary sabbaticals on the Guadalcanal battle fields, I bet he was there with them. What a treasure this man is.
@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar
@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar Жыл бұрын
We agree
@FlukeTog
@FlukeTog Жыл бұрын
Good morning. Thanks for all the hard work. Great episode. Close to home familiar story’s.
@robertmoffitt1336
@robertmoffitt1336 Жыл бұрын
Binge watching through season one, this is such an incredible podcast.
@mightyjimbo7681
@mightyjimbo7681 Жыл бұрын
OK I started at 108 now I have to go back and catch up from the beginning! Great job guys!
@rembrandt972ify
@rembrandt972ify Жыл бұрын
One thing that I never understood, even as a teenager. Why didn't the Japanese use their air assets to supply Guadalcanal? I realize it would be very difficult to supply 30,000 troops 600 miles away from Rabaul, but they could have sent them something. They had bunches of long-range aircraft and many aircrew well trained in night operations. I do know they did some air transport in New Guinea, just not on the scale of the allies.
@guadalcanal-walkingabattle5349
@guadalcanal-walkingabattle5349 Жыл бұрын
They actually attempted to drop supply bundles at times especially at the start of the campaign. There are several photos of captured bundles.
@HeedTheLorax
@HeedTheLorax Жыл бұрын
No C-47s or anything close, not to mention no airfield so they would of had to air dropped supplies. I've never heard of the Japanese attempting anything like that.
@rembrandt972ify
@rembrandt972ify Жыл бұрын
@@HeedTheLorax That isn't exactly true, the Japanese license-built hundreds of DC-3s, the military version of which was called the C-47. They also bought a few. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Showa%2FNakajima_L2D
@TheBruceGday
@TheBruceGday Жыл бұрын
DC-3s aren’t exactly the same as C-47s. One is an airliner with passenger seating, one is a cargo plane. Perhaps Japanese military did not see the benefit of time and cost to convert the airliners into cargo planes. Why they didn’t use their knowledge from the license built DC-3s to produce purpose-built cargo planes, I don’t know.
@TheBruceGday
@TheBruceGday Жыл бұрын
Their paratroops used the Mitsubishi Ki-57, so those could have been used. So good question.
@brianhuss9184
@brianhuss9184 Жыл бұрын
147th RCT: National Guard (Ohio) separated when the 37th Division was triangularized. The 164th Infantry: National Guard (North Dakota). The two other infantry regiments in the AMERICAL were the 182nd (Massachusetts Guard) and 132nd (Illinois Guard).
@davidlavigne207
@davidlavigne207 Жыл бұрын
I have been watching the entire Guadalcanal Campaign videos over the last few weeks. These were some of the most interesting, informative and educational discussions I have ever listened to. Thanks for all the effort by Seth, Bill and all their expert guests for informing us about what I feel was indeed the true turning point of the war. I'm going to go back and watch the recordings from Pearl Harbor onwards.
@scottsherman6889
@scottsherman6889 11 ай бұрын
A very complicated campaign, and the podcasts have been outstanding!
@JoeNicks389
@JoeNicks389 10 ай бұрын
My dad was in the 132nd and fought in the battle of Mt. Austin, but never talked about. I found out about it after he past in '65 from his brother.
@michaelmontgomery5141
@michaelmontgomery5141 Жыл бұрын
I love guys.
@TheIhealme
@TheIhealme Жыл бұрын
I believe that the 2nd Division in WW1 was a combined army/marine Division.
@guadalcanal-walkingabattle5349
@guadalcanal-walkingabattle5349 Жыл бұрын
Correct with the 4th Marine Brigade. I’m actually going to Belleau wood and Mont Blanc next month, can’t wait.
@gregbiggs5674
@gregbiggs5674 6 ай бұрын
US Army and US Navy had wonderful cooperation, or "jointness," during the American Civil War. The River Campaigns would not have been won by the Union without that.
@artlee2285
@artlee2285 Жыл бұрын
Is there going to be a focused discussion of the air battle of Guadalcanal ?
@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar
@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar Жыл бұрын
Yes-- already recorded and scheduled for release in about a month.
@fredferd965
@fredferd965 Жыл бұрын
Are you gentlemen going to do Boganville? And also my favorite, The Battle of Bismark Sea???
@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar
@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar Жыл бұрын
We are.
@fredferd965
@fredferd965 Жыл бұрын
@@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar Good! The Battle of the Bismark Sea deserves more attention than it has had.
@Gregolec
@Gregolec Жыл бұрын
I am looking but I cannot find - is there a Patreon link for podcast?
@Titus-as-the-Roman
@Titus-as-the-Roman Жыл бұрын
From what I've read, while Col. Edson's nick-name was 'Red' due to his complexion, Evans Carlson should have been named that. His Communist sympathies were well known, he modeled his outfit after the Communist Guerillas in China.
@rogerpattube
@rogerpattube Жыл бұрын
By parachute drop you mean? At night?
@rembrandt972ify
@rembrandt972ify Жыл бұрын
At night or dusk. Or just throwing bales of rice out of a bomb bay, day or night. The soldiers would have found time to gather it off the ground. Parachutes if they had them. Mavises or Emilys landing offshore at dusk. L2Ds if they had them. I mean Bettys were being slaughtered over Henderson Field in daylight throughout the campaign for little effect. 12-15 Bettys could have carried about a pound per man per trip. The IJN was dropping drums of supplies offshore, but the troops only got about 1/8th of those drums. Seems just throwing rice out a bomb bay would have worked at least that well. I don't know, I've never tried to airdrop anything.
@Crash103179
@Crash103179 Жыл бұрын
@@rembrandt972ify I remember the US figuring out a system to supply civilians in Vietnam by air whereby they threw bags of rice out of planes. A loose bag was placed around an inner bag to contain the inevitable rupture. It proved economical and quite effective.
@Gregolec
@Gregolec Жыл бұрын
First... well, 139th actually. Still happy.
@guadalcanal-walkingabattle5349
@guadalcanal-walkingabattle5349 Жыл бұрын
132nd regiment not 139th?
@joebombero1
@joebombero1 Жыл бұрын
In 1997 my brother and I hired an off shore fishing boat to spend the day catching Red Snapper off South Padre Island. When we arrived shortly before dawn we were sad to see we would be sharing the boat with a group of old men. I thought we had been swindled and almost had a few words with the boat owners. Soon after the boat left the dock, however, we realized this was not a nursing home outing. These old men were smoking cigarettes, one cigar, and popping open beers - and the sun had not even risen yet! They drank continuously throughout the day and not one ever got sick. We caught a ridiculous amount of fish and one small shark. It turned out we shared the boat with a reunion of old World War II Marines, who shared with us their adventures. Those guys spilled so many "F" bombs hahaha. Hard as nails and didn't give a sh!t anymore. We felt honored by their company. I will never forget it.
@flparkermdpc
@flparkermdpc 6 ай бұрын
You lucky buggers!
@steventoal6594
@steventoal6594 4 ай бұрын
You were blessed that day.
@bruceday6799
@bruceday6799 Жыл бұрын
I'm not done listening when you guys finish talking...
@Perfusionist01
@Perfusionist01 Жыл бұрын
You guys are tremendous! I have been interested in Guadalcanal since I saw the 1943 movie "Guadalcanal Diary" in the 3rd grade. I have read a number of books, but you guys still bring up some material that I haven't seen, or you and your guests explain the actions in a more concise way. Thank you for your efforts. As long as you talk, I will listen.
@tkraft63
@tkraft63 Жыл бұрын
This series has been a Master Class on Guadalcanal with Master Historians, thank you very much.
@edmundmcalister119
@edmundmcalister119 Жыл бұрын
My grandfather was Brig. Gen. Edmund B. Sebree, who commanded Americal Division in the end stages of the campaign. Great episode; Dave Holland is a fabulous resource!
@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar
@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar Жыл бұрын
Bill responding: Wow! We talk about the establishment of Americal and why it's called that in one of our Guadalcanal episodes. My great uncle Joe was a member of the division.
@dabda8510
@dabda8510 6 ай бұрын
So happy to hear from a direct descendant of a notable person of the war and US history. Often when direct family descendants don't keep the memory alive, stories of such people are often lost forever, despite the efforts to keep them alive by the likes of museums and the awesome people putting up great content on this channel. So please keep the memory of your grandfather alive through your children and grandchildren and on. God bless.
@psymetal
@psymetal Жыл бұрын
My uncle was a marine on Guadalcanal and got shot twice there.. my father was a radar operator on b24s in the panama zone and Solomons later on. Ive always had an interest in the pacific war. You guys keep up the good work.
@barryrammer7906
@barryrammer7906 Жыл бұрын
I'm proud of our Seabees defending Henderson field. Could you talk more about them also in the future. Thanks if you can.
@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar
@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar Жыл бұрын
Will add to the list!
@georgea.567
@georgea.567 10 ай бұрын
I find it interesting after 4 or 5 episodes Mr. Holland has lost the Australian accent haha
@DS_Boston
@DS_Boston 10 ай бұрын
In the book “Shots Fired in Anger” National Guard Officer George discusses his experience on Guadalcanal. The Army units had M1 Garands and thus a lot more firepower than USMC units at the time. The joint operations extended at times down to squad level. He describes going on a reconnaissance patrol, with fire support from a Marine mortar platoon.
@guadalcanal-walkingabattle5349
@guadalcanal-walkingabattle5349 10 ай бұрын
Great book
@MadLudwig
@MadLudwig Жыл бұрын
Love the opening dialog. That comment about PT at 0500 was priceless. I remember being in command, standing in front of my troops at 0500 in PT gear and freezing rain one morning... and thinking to myself, "What asshole came up with the idea of doing PT at this hour and under these conditions? Oh, wait a minute... that was ME!" 😆
@steventoal6594
@steventoal6594 4 ай бұрын
That's funny.
@richardrigling4906
@richardrigling4906 Жыл бұрын
These are great presentation/discussions. However, it would help if you could patch in maps supporting the discussions. I'm learning a lot and erasing some bad info all at once.
@wagstaffe7
@wagstaffe7 Жыл бұрын
So nice to see the Captain looking so healthy again.
@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar
@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar Жыл бұрын
He thanks you!
@BlitherVids
@BlitherVids Жыл бұрын
Fantastic as always, guys. I love it when you have guys like Dave Holland or Jon Parshall on to get their expertise as well.
@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar
@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar Жыл бұрын
More to come!
@wadeenyart9676
@wadeenyart9676 Жыл бұрын
I agree Dave and, or, Jon rock. I love them both
@hilogreg5216
@hilogreg5216 Жыл бұрын
Ever since I was a young boy when my parents purchased their first set of encyclopedias I have been fascinated with the Pacific Theater of WW 2. Now late in life I have been thrilled to discover your excellent Pod Cast on the Pacific war. You are doing a fantastic service digging into the little know details. Since you asked for suggestions have you ever given any thought to doing an episode on the importance of the PBY squadrons in the Pacific campaign, especially in the dark early days of New Guinea and the Solomons
@DanYerex
@DanYerex Жыл бұрын
Great episode. My dad was part of the U.S. Army in Guadalcanal. He never talked about his experience there. He enlisted in 1939 and was stationed in Pearl Harbor and was Medically discharged in January 1943? As a result of having contracted malaria in Guadalcanal. Thank you for all your hard work and information on this channel
@juantanamo33
@juantanamo33 Жыл бұрын
Awesome! A long episode with Dave! Perfect birthday present thanks guys! Learned a ton as usual!
@dcl1019
@dcl1019 Жыл бұрын
Another great episode Gentlemen, thank you very much for all this work. Very learnful... and equally enjoyable.
@grathian
@grathian Жыл бұрын
CAM division was the second time a US Division fought that was combined US Army/ US Marines. The first was the 2cd Division fighting in France in WWI.
@guadalcanal-walkingabattle5349
@guadalcanal-walkingabattle5349 Жыл бұрын
Your correct with the 4th Brigade. If the war would have went into 1919 there were plans to form the first ever Marine Division. I was referring to WW2 in this episode.
@HDBee
@HDBee 10 ай бұрын
My dad always talked about how the Marines took more casualties than the Army because of their tactics in the Pacific. He said that the Army used their arty and air assets more to soften up the enemy during their assaults. He always gave Peleliu as an example, But he was in the Army.
@jollyjohnthepirate3168
@jollyjohnthepirate3168 2 ай бұрын
My dad said the same thing. Particularly later in the war, the leadership of Marine Platoon, Company and Battalions really got weak. My dad talked about Marine Platoons loosing about 1/2 there strength by doing a frontal assaults on Japanese machine gun armed block houses. Maybe they expanded too quickly.
@knutdergroe9757
@knutdergroe9757 Ай бұрын
The ARMY says the MARINE CORPS does nothing but frontal assults. Amphibious assult is a frontal assult. In the Pacific between fighting on islands and in jungles, most of the battles become frontal assults. There not a lot of room to move around. So, you charge in, Hang on, and fight like hell. If you don't win, your brothers may die trying to. So, win and make the enemy lose and die.
@mikeat2637
@mikeat2637 Жыл бұрын
I was wondering, since the Guadalcanal Campaign is the current topic, do you plan to do something about the period when the Royal Navy carrier Victorious a/k/a USS Robin was sent to the PTO due to the loss of the Hornet and the severe damage to the Enterprise which had her laid up for repairs. Then the only carrier available in the PTO was the Saratoga. FDR and Winston Churchill set it up. I think it would make a great podcast episode, as there is not a lot of written product out there for something that was quite important during the spring and summer of 1943. I found the story extremely fascinating and it led me to look more into the British armored deck carriers, as well as David Hobbs great book about the British Pacific Fleet in 1944-1945.
@sundiver137
@sundiver137 Жыл бұрын
The USN got an excellent education from the Royal Navy on how to properly vector their CAP fighters and the RN learned a lot from the USN about underway replenishment.
@tonyaughney8945
@tonyaughney8945 Жыл бұрын
This has been the most interesting video on your channel. Been hoping for a video on the Army on Guadalcanal. I finally got clarity on the unit in The Thin Red Line.
@michaellorusso8021
@michaellorusso8021 7 ай бұрын
The 164th was also the first US Army personnel to see action in WWII in an offensive operation.
@guadalcanal-walkingabattle5349
@guadalcanal-walkingabattle5349 7 ай бұрын
Yes when they landed on 13 Oct. I have an entire episode on the 164ths role during the campaign.
@kf6bka
@kf6bka Жыл бұрын
Dave, thank you so much for being up early to do this. Your knowledge of this is so amazing!
@lhartatt
@lhartatt Жыл бұрын
I add, the next biography you have led me to is that of admiral Willis lee. Again, thanks.
@philipcunningham4125
@philipcunningham4125 5 ай бұрын
I second that.
@flparkermdpc
@flparkermdpc 6 ай бұрын
The idea proffered to get to Dave papers, letters, relics for a beginning to a Guadalcanal museum. It's a wonderful idea.
@stevemccoy554
@stevemccoy554 Жыл бұрын
Woohoo! Mornin guys! Meanwhile back in Guadalcanal...
@davemomberg5832
@davemomberg5832 9 ай бұрын
I was watching the second episode of the tribute to The USS Enterprise. I'm surprised Bill wasn't aware of the float planes rescuing pilots off Truk and taxing to USS Tang. Nothing against Bill but has he ever seen the TV series The Silent Service? There was a episode that describes that event, probably not as accurate as what you have though. Like I said NO slam just surprised. I am enjoying the pod cast Keep up the good work Thanks.
@MMA10mm
@MMA10mm Жыл бұрын
Well, there went this weekend!😂. Found your podcast on 2nd Battle of Savo Isl., and was so impressed, I’ve been binge-watching your whole series on Guadalcanal. Fantastic job! Subscribed and liked. I’ll be going back to the beginning of your series and trying to catch up. An idea: When talking about the locations, it would be great to have a period simplistic map (like US used in its records of the war). Nothing fancy, like circles, arrows, or animation. Just simple map; no harder than putting up a photo, like you do frequently. And a question: Are you going to talk about the Marine Defense Btln. which landed on Guadalcanal?
@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar
@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar Жыл бұрын
Glad you found us.
@kilcar
@kilcar Жыл бұрын
You speak of malaria in the Solomon's; my dad was a CPO with the 20th NCB IN Noumea, Townsville, Then, on to Woodlark Island and Banika in the Russell Islands, in the Louisaides Island Chain 200 miles south of New Ireland, and about the same distance from Bougainville. He suffered recurring malaria and neuritis for the rest of his life, he had and took Atabrine,but he still got malaria. I remembered buying quinine for him even in the 1970's
@richardcall7447
@richardcall7447 Жыл бұрын
Heck, the Army and the Navy were doing VERY well in joint operations at least as far back as the Civil War!
@johnpitchlynn9341
@johnpitchlynn9341 Жыл бұрын
The reason Chesty did not get the MOH on Guadalcanal was that the brass despised him because he always told them what he thought and did not hold back. Also you cannot blame Chesty for Peleliu...that was all on Rupterus and his misuse of the 1st Marines. 😡
@guadalcanal-walkingabattle5349
@guadalcanal-walkingabattle5349 Жыл бұрын
Good points. Peleliu was complicated and all the commanders are implicated. It surprises me Geiger never gets tainted as he was the overall commander. Puller wasn’t liked by many of the top brass due to a number of issues.
@robmackenzie7171
@robmackenzie7171 Жыл бұрын
Just discovered this podcast: it is fantastic! Can't wait to see how you talk about the RN carrier seconded to US Navy and how British Pacific Fleet contributed later on
@chadrowe8452
@chadrowe8452 Жыл бұрын
Armoured carriers and they took some kamikaze hits
@rogerpattube
@rogerpattube Жыл бұрын
You’re going to wait a long time. This series is only about American activity.
@grathian
@grathian Жыл бұрын
"USS Robin" (HMS Victorious) paired with Saratoga first half of 1943 out of Noumea.
@wdcjunk
@wdcjunk Жыл бұрын
38:53 - AIN'T NO PARTY LIKE A WORK PARTY!!
@markpaul-ym5wg
@markpaul-ym5wg Жыл бұрын
Correspondent Richard tregaskis wrote the book Guadalcanal diary which later was made into a Hollywood movie called the thin red line and had an all star cast in 1998.
@guadalcanal-walkingabattle5349
@guadalcanal-walkingabattle5349 Жыл бұрын
James Jones wrote the book The Thin Red Line which the movie was made from. Tragaskis book was made into a movie in 1943 with the same title: Guadalcanal Diary.
@christopherslaughter2263
@christopherslaughter2263 10 ай бұрын
People make a big deal of our technology but really,it's the ingenuity of our guys on the ground that makes our Army so formidable. The Japanese and the Germans get bogged down in protocol.
@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar
@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar 10 ай бұрын
But by 1944 we have 4 times the number of ships than the Japanese. Ingenuity isn't going to overcome that difference.
@christopherslaughter2263
@christopherslaughter2263 10 ай бұрын
@@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar no it's not I was talking about tech and getting bogged down by military protocal
@johnheigis83
@johnheigis83 Жыл бұрын
Margaritaville... 2/5/1st.
@ewlong1031
@ewlong1031 11 күн бұрын
Dave is wrong about the CAM division being the only time that the Army & Marines fought under in combined division. During WW1 the U.S. Army 2nd Infantry Division included the Marine Brigade and was renamed the 2nd Division of U.S. Forces to reflect their unique formation. The 2nd was twice commanded by Marine generals as well.
@guadalcanal-walkingabattle5349
@guadalcanal-walkingabattle5349 7 күн бұрын
Thanks. I should have said WW2. The USMC has been combined with US Army units since the Rev War.
@kimhansen8720
@kimhansen8720 11 ай бұрын
didn't the soldiers take HCQ to prevent the malaria?
@RobertPaskulovich-fz1th
@RobertPaskulovich-fz1th Жыл бұрын
The USAF did not exist until 1947.
@kyanderson2461
@kyanderson2461 Жыл бұрын
You guys are great !
@mycroft1905
@mycroft1905 Жыл бұрын
Yet another fascinating broadcast, gentlemen. 28 years in Australia has certainly resulted in a unique amalgam of vowel sounds, Mr Holland. TFP
@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar
@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar Жыл бұрын
Alabama mixed with a trace of down under.
@genenoud9048
@genenoud9048 Жыл бұрын
​@@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar Alabama is are down under
@richardmardis2492
@richardmardis2492 Жыл бұрын
Love that messed up accent! 😂❤
@flparkermdpc
@flparkermdpc 11 ай бұрын
​@genenoud9048 you meant "OUR" Down Under regarding Alabama
@billechols7136
@billechols7136 Жыл бұрын
Great show gentlemen.
@patrickshanley4466
@patrickshanley4466 Жыл бұрын
My dad often regailed my brother and I about his time with a sea bee battalion in the late stages of Guadalcanal. One of his favorite topics was “WASHING MACHINE CHARLIE “ and the trouble those planes caused. Not exactly big topic with strategic implications. Maybe you guys could say a word about it . Keep up the great work 😊
@fredkruse9444
@fredkruse9444 Жыл бұрын
Washing Machine Charlie was in an episode of McHale's Navy. :)
@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar
@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar Жыл бұрын
We mention it in a few episodes, including the yet-to-air one on the Cactus Air Force.
@billyhouse1943
@billyhouse1943 6 ай бұрын
Thank you.. I’m in the process of catching up. I started from episode one. I started this after visiting the museum in Fredericksburg. I live in Georgetown Tx, retired, and catching up will take some time…
@thomasgarrison3949
@thomasgarrison3949 Жыл бұрын
I feel that Dugout Doug Macarthur got a Medal of Honor for deserting the Philippines, that Chesty Puller should have got at least one Medal of Honor for defending Guadalcanal. Another Outstanding video.
@tonybanke3560
@tonybanke3560 Жыл бұрын
McArthur froze when the Philippine's was attacked. The most over rated Military officer in WW2.
@refuge42
@refuge42 Жыл бұрын
Chesty puller is the most decorated Marine in US history wiki has an extensive review of his awards how they were earned. Criticizing MacArthur is just plain ignorant. His commanding officer the president of the United States ordered him to leave provided a sub for him to do it he turned to the sub down and left on PT boats which was much more dangerous. MacArthur was greatly admired by Americans and then again in WWII after he retired in 37 was recommisoned in 41. I suggest you do some background reading before you take cheap shots at soldiers whose history you don't seem to understand or appreciate.
@stuartdollar9912
@stuartdollar9912 11 ай бұрын
@@refuge42 He was also a grandstanding SOB whose press greatly exceeded his actual accomplishments. The fact MacArthur received a Medal of Honor is an insult to every other person that has ever been awarded the same award.
@yyz4761
@yyz4761 11 ай бұрын
One of my great uncles was in the Bataan death march. The local paper did a big story on his ordeal when he got home after the war and one of my great aunts cut it out and saved it. He hated MacArthur more than the Japanese
@DS_Boston
@DS_Boston 10 ай бұрын
McArthur was nominated for the Medal of Honor after the Veracruz mission, and after a patrol during WWI. He had , many many faults but cowardice was not one of them.
@gravitypronepart2201
@gravitypronepart2201 Жыл бұрын
Dave has been the star of the who Guadalcanal series, and its been an gold mine of insights. BZ Sir. Thank you guys for this podcast. My Dad was in the Atmy and served in the Philippines toward the end of the war as a medical orderly. He helped Survivors of the POW camps. He was in Pasig, the Stadium in Manila and the hospital at Bagio. I wish I knew what unit he was in. I seem to remimber him saying something about the Second Mechanised Calvery, but I dont know for sure. Maybe when you get to it, I'll be able to figure it out. I'm subbed, so I'll be around for that. 😊
@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar
@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar Жыл бұрын
Bill responding-- been to Manila & Baguio while in the Navy. Wish I had the time and inclination back then to visit these sites.
@gravitypronepart2201
@gravitypronepart2201 Жыл бұрын
@@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar Me too! I was there in the Navy as well. And I wish I had written down all that my dad said about his experiwnces, and adked more questions.
@joebombero1
@joebombero1 Жыл бұрын
I retired from Texas to the Philippines in 2018, now living in Cavite. Free beer and cheeseburger if you ever swing by. Love sharing stories.
@lurking0death
@lurking0death Жыл бұрын
Sound a lot like combat in Vietnam...
@jameshannagan4256
@jameshannagan4256 Жыл бұрын
Another great episode.
@kyanderson2461
@kyanderson2461 Жыл бұрын
great work ! thank you .
@rogerhuner6566
@rogerhuner6566 Жыл бұрын
I think the question was about Army working under Marines. In WWI it was Marines under Army.
@keithkuhn6404
@keithkuhn6404 6 ай бұрын
Akinosuke Oka dies in Feb 1943, but how and where is unknown.
@guadalcanal-walkingabattle5349
@guadalcanal-walkingabattle5349 5 ай бұрын
Interested but it is documented he left Guadalcanal in February 1943.
@richardmardis2492
@richardmardis2492 Жыл бұрын
Even though my first memories are of the Philippines as a young child- I was also raised at Ft. Bragg as a boy- and the European theatre is my strong suit. Thanks for getting me excited about the Pacific 👍
@adambowman8543
@adambowman8543 Жыл бұрын
A suggestion for a video, y'all should do a video exclusively about Enterprise especially as she prepares to go home to receive her PUC and her refit.
@christopherpabsst7260
@christopherpabsst7260 Жыл бұрын
Having only recently discovered your podcast series. I can’t tell you just how much I enjoy your discussions on the Pacific War, which in my opinion, gets far less attention than the ETO. Keep up the great work.
@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar
@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@terrygregg1228
@terrygregg1228 Жыл бұрын
Yhis is very informative, as are all of your shows. please keep them coming. Thanks T
@jojoemcgeejoe457
@jojoemcgeejoe457 Жыл бұрын
I'm going to disagree with y'all in your digs against Carlson. Makin isn't on him. You go where you're sent and do what you're ordered to do. Remember... the Marines didn't get to pick their targets. Also, 20' plus breakers on the coral reef around the island are gonna mess up extraction plans, even to this day. That he got as many out as he did is a rather huge plus. And, as to the long patrol, again, you go where you're sent and follow orders. If the patrol was misused and abused, that's on operational command, not on the tactical leadership. Carlson was a commie pink and a Mao fan. But no one's perfect. Not even Marines, as hard as that might be to believe. Semper Fi. Lifetime Member of the L/Cpl Underground.
@Thumpalumpacus
@Thumpalumpacus Жыл бұрын
I grab a swig of beer every time Seth says "abundantly". Not swaying as much tonight, lol.
@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar
@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar Жыл бұрын
Haha. We all have words we probably say too much. For Bill, it's "absolutely."
@rogerpattube
@rogerpattube Жыл бұрын
My favourite is ‘Battle wagon’
@Thumpalumpacus
@Thumpalumpacus Жыл бұрын
@@rogerpattube Gosh, I'd be hammered by the end of this vid. "A man's got to know his limitations", lol.
@babychuma1
@babychuma1 Жыл бұрын
Another stellar episode, glad to see Dave back with his encyclopedic knowledge of the geography.
@War_Horse_
@War_Horse_ Жыл бұрын
Guadalcanal = Basilone
@jean-francoislemieux5509
@jean-francoislemieux5509 Жыл бұрын
couldn't find a good map of the guadalcanal campaign on google... maybe someone can help?
@Jaysqualityparts
@Jaysqualityparts Жыл бұрын
Love his answer “you don’t own me” touché.
@MyNivri
@MyNivri Жыл бұрын
Tank you for the pResentations on GC. My uncle was a marine that was there for the campaign. He never spoke about it. I know he did suffer from malaria which he contracted there. But not much else was ever said.
@lhartatt
@lhartatt Жыл бұрын
You guys led me to reading a biography of Admiral Earnest King. Just finished it. Thanks.
@augustineramos3789
@augustineramos3789 Жыл бұрын
Great podcast!!!! will you have time to cover the PT boats contribution? I have long thought the same about MacArthur BTW.
@MMA10mm
@MMA10mm Жыл бұрын
YES, the PT boats would be interesting stuff!
@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar
@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar Жыл бұрын
They will definitely come up at some point
@bobbiecrider6964
@bobbiecrider6964 Жыл бұрын
👍👍
@vinniethefinger7781
@vinniethefinger7781 Жыл бұрын
You guys previously talked about the 1st Raiders stripping the 5th Marines, Well, talk about Carlson and his political maleficence when he robbed the Edson trained men of the 1st Raiders and then turned around and bitched about their training. Zero respect for Carlson.
@dirthgr
@dirthgr 4 ай бұрын
Speaking of mixing US Army and Marine...at I believe New Guinea my father, who was initially a Navy radioman, was assigned to a mixed Aussie / US 6 man (Aussie led) recon team...a JASCO unit (Joint Assault Co.)....packing a radio to comm as needed. He quite enjoyed the cross-national camaraderie. At Guadalcanal (where I believe he also served--post NG...mixing Marine and Navy?)...he recounted: a) packing in 28 miles to reinforce troops in defensive positions and being greeted with the exclamation "fresh meat"; b) sleeping in tombs and waking to find the guy next to him with a slit throat; and c) malaria.
@Montana_horseman
@Montana_horseman 2 ай бұрын
Great podcast and work by everyone and glad I found this channel. Dave Holland is fantastic guest, I've seen every video Dave has produced. I'm older so grew up around a lot of Veterans of WW1 and WW2. The man who mentored me to become a silver smith and gem cutter was a veteran of both 1and 2. Great men who helped shape who I became later in life. 👍
@babyseals4872
@babyseals4872 18 күн бұрын
Making my way through season one and what can I say but wow. This is amazing. Thank you for doing this gentlemen. I fancy myself a history buff but this channel has put me in my place with so much knowledge crammed into each episode. I know I’m late to the party and am doing my best to catch up
@mitch8226
@mitch8226 Жыл бұрын
Great content
@cheesenoodles8316
@cheesenoodles8316 Жыл бұрын
Excellent. Good account of the Army on the Canal. As a lad in the 70s I was learning and reading about the Marines on the Canal, then found the book The Thin Red LIne....it really kept the quest to learn more. The quest continues, like when I discover Dave's YT channel, and you two gentelmen.
@flparkermdpc
@flparkermdpc 6 ай бұрын
Who knew about this dark closing chapter at Guadalcanal?. I surely didn't. Every sacrifice is significant, and especially tragic in these circumstances. These men were doomed to all be like the last man to die in a war: forgotten. This is awfully painful history. Like ALL of the Japanese men on ALL of their hopeless ill conceived battles. Makes you realize what a failure war is as an option in human relations. 😢
@lawrencebeeler6273
@lawrencebeeler6273 8 ай бұрын
I was taught MacArthur frequently liked to borrow marine units but didn't like returning them , especially in the Philippines campaign
@JosephMalone-mg3yh
@JosephMalone-mg3yh 6 ай бұрын
I have read about many of these events over the years but after following your series from the "Operation Watch Tower", episode. Your great efforts have allowed me to put the events of the Guadalcanal Campaign in much better chronological order in my mind. Well done and thank you very much for that kind gift.
@robertwatson818
@robertwatson818 6 ай бұрын
Guys--please give numbers of troops instead of terms for groups such as batillions. How many was that?
@ralphallen5779
@ralphallen5779 Жыл бұрын
Excellent work 👍
@marksherrill9337
@marksherrill9337 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Very interesting to hear scholars go into details. I’ve heard from my father and history videos and read a few books. However, these videos make it very personal and almost feel like I gotten to know the soldiers .
@DanielMatthews-ql3wf
@DanielMatthews-ql3wf 9 ай бұрын
My father and uncle both said that they didn't know anyone who didn't have malaria and discentary. My father went in to the army at over 200 lbs and came home at 140lbs.
@sparkey6746
@sparkey6746 Жыл бұрын
Thank y'all for another outstanding show.
@jimcurrier3922
@jimcurrier3922 7 ай бұрын
My Dad was in a army mule outfit, he was a pack master and he said that they hauled ammo they and chow to there own guns and to the Marines. they they also hauled wounded on a stretchers that was attached to the mules backs.
@ramal5708
@ramal5708 Жыл бұрын
When they asked the Marines, Army and Navy how the Japanese could escape and evacuate with enough forces from Guadalcanal, they probably said "Dunno, they just dissapeared into the sea!", the action of General Patch during the Operation Ke and his conservative ways in conducting the offensive toward Cape Esperance, also the disaster at Rennell Island and the intelligence on when and how the Japanese evacuation plan is kind of lacking.
@johnd01
@johnd01 Жыл бұрын
Flying Tigers tried to share how to fight Japanese plaines zoom and boom tactics and never try to turn with them but the Navy and Army would not pass the information along.
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