The End of China's Rise and the Future of World Order│Michael Beckley (Tufts University, Professor)

[@centurionsong1609]

I just realised the speech was made in Korea! That’s the reason these young man are carefully listening and recording! Koreans really love this topic!

[@democrazy9546]

of course, Koreans like to hear bad stories of China...

[@Panaputra]

What else do you expect from a US professor from a US university speaking in a South Korean forum 😄.

[@techmemes9942]

if my grandma had wheels she would be a bike.

[@cherrylove1293]

Who cares about China. Just ant to ask them don't be a fake

[@ermz13]

@@techmemes9942😂😂😂

[@inuwooddog3027]

Question: Is this slowdown just China or a global event?

[@yundili-wh5eh]

good question😂

[@matts_official]

Global, its Just using China as an example. The World Economic Forum ran by Klaus Schwab "predicted" this. Actually they made it this way. Tear down of society as we know it to make room for The New World Order. One of the reasons why the BRICS where born

[@AceJonas-i4o]

The best comment I have seen so far from this thread 👍👍

[@Fkawaytrash]

Definately slow down globally but China is not slowing down , it is reversed

[@schizophrenia6402]

its China , just look at their stock market SSEC and compare it to SP500

[@user-wo1c4ar]

let's keep this video and watch it again 5 yrs later.

[@mikejohnson6301]

We do not need to see this video later - let’s look at video already made since 1972- where everybody was talking about the decline of China - hi professor how is the USA going to payback 34 trillion dollars

[@amirhosseinyaghoubi1202]

​@@mikejohnson6301 In 1972, China had already declined, thanks to communism. After the leadership opened the country's door, everyone started talking about its marvelous rise and how a country with most people in absolute poverty changed its fate.

[@AshsAutisticAdventures]

China is declining. Its over son.

[@coffeeman9475]

Day dreaming professor. All the data he collected can only enable him to give an half hour talk. He is so pathetic.

[@rachilray]

​@@mikejohnson6301the world runs on debt, do you think the US or any country for that matter plans on actually paying off their debts completely?

[@B.z-d6e]

Every country has its own set of strengths, weaknesses, opportunities, and threats. Focusing solely on weaknesses and challenges can lead to miscalculations. It's important to never underestimate your enemy and to be cautious about trusting your friends.

[@sinesaii]

Best is to make lots of friends and form a block that promotes democratic norms. We need to stick with the post-WW2 system for Cold War 2 with China.

[@sendepowersports7794]

hell right!

[@Mahindrank-w6k]

WTF is he talking?. WHY IS US AND UK DEBT DRIVEN MORE THAN THEUR GDP?. WHY IS WESTERN DEMOCRACY FAILING MISRABLY?. Now south korea is under matial law. Thats the gift for having wokeism and free speech.😂😂😂😂😂.

[@animangaml]

I am Chinese and i know economy, i studied them and have MBA degree in economy. I agree that China is slowing down and i have predicted this since a decade ago.No nations in history have double digit growth forever, and China is no exception.

[@kimharoldmoreto205]

Hope you will not hunt by CCP

[@Uynix1978]

I am Chinese origin and I agree China is slowing down recently. But this professor has quite a few points that I frowned upon. He said that China’s rise was caused by rare exceptional factors. But if one ever read world history, China has always been a major world economic power in the past 2000 years. A decline in the 19-20 centuries was a quite expected transitional period for China’s modernization and industrialization. Even today it is still in political transition. But this professor saw this norm as exceptional and failed to see the history norm. His conclusion of a “peaking power” just is not supported by historical facts.

[@jackjanpour8532]

You studied "History of Economic" and "History of Business". You can't study the future that hasn't happened yet.

[@marcinbaszczyk1021]

Agree, the only question for world is how this Cold War will end? Only the technological race or war? Hopefully the government of China is more reasonable and more pro human than North Korean or Russian.

[@conti-vl6tx]

China will be able to sustain their economy growth of 7%. There a very good reason why the Chinese have decided to slow down the economic growth now because they're now shifting from one model of economic growth to another model of economic growth. China used to rely a lot on export led growth and they can no longer do that because they're no longer the big markets in the west that they can rely on. Now they trying to switch to an internal consumption which growth need takes time to do that. If you're running a fast train around a corner, it's best to slow down and do that. And Secondly, if you look at the amount of investments that China has put in the world class infrastructure, ports, airports, roads, rail and so on and so forth that China has built, that kind of world class infrastructure reaps dividends, plus the Chinese Communist Party in many ways one of the most meritocratic organization in the world and the quality of mind of key Chinese policymakers has never been as good as it it today. If you have a government which have a remarkably good minds taking advantage of a world class infrastructure, we all will see the possibility of China maintaining good growth is there. If you have any doubts about the capacity of the Chinese mind to do well, look at the exam results of the Chinese students in any leading American university. Look at the list of PhDs that the Chinese come to collect. You see the success of the Chinese intellectual. Western education was developed for the Western mind, but 1 thing many people haven't noticed is that in the last 10 years when you take western education combine it with a Asian mind including the Chinese mind, it has an explosive effect. So the Asian are thriving with Western education and inevitably this is gonna fuel the rise of China in a big way. The probability is very clear that you know if you have a country with a 1.4 billion human population which is China and a country of 335 million which is the United States, if the average Chinese can perform at 25% the level of the average American, China will have a bigger economy. And i'm confident that the average Chinese can perform more than 25% the level if the average American.

[@gdreading9088]

And 99.9% of the worlds population just want to live in peace.

[@vmasing1965]

Unfortunately, 99.3% have no idea how to govern themselves or how actions are connected to consequences. So, inevitably, they're easy to manipulate into anything the ruling elites, the 0.00001% come up with in their ample spare time...

[@ammonc6252]

But we're ruled by 0.1% of the population

[@isokiller2346]

But not china they killed my people back then and still doing it

[@tboyz6442]

Great point which provokes the question: who the hell is the 0.1%?

[@laughremixsquad]

@@tboyz6442our leaders

[@sarcasmo57]

Peace is so much cooler than war.

[@eerreet5649]

Best comment here

[@myleghurts3546]

@@eerreet5649 Have you read the username, though?

[@sylvainh2o]

Yep also such a big nation as China if it ever gets to the point of collapse they will do what any desperate nation do they start a huge world war.

[@LouisFJC]

china love piece, china love piece of your lands and islands...

[@bkashford13]

“But what’s the fun in that” they would say!

[@garretzhang5565]

I am Chinese and have lived in Western countries for the past 25 years. I hadn’t been back to China in about nine years until last year, and I was amazed by the changes in my hometown, a small city in central China. Without the CCP, China could have developed similarly to Japan in the 1980s. With the CCP, however, things are more complex. China has the largest smart and hardworking population in the world. Even though China's GDP is almost on par with the US, young people in China are still pushing ahead in AI, driverless cars, high-speed railways, solar energy, and high-voltage power grids-fields where China is already a global leader. While China's economy is slowing down, countries like the US, Canada, and Japan aren't doing better and may even be worse. Much of the West seems more focused on social issues, vacation policies, and reduced working hours, which benefit individuals but don't necessarily boost the economy. In contrast, the efficiency in China is astounding. I live in a small city in western Canada, where it takes three years to finish a 3 km road project. In China, such a project could be completed in three days. This level of speed and adaptability has been a daily reality in China for the past 30 years. Many in the West either overestimate or underestimate China because they cannot imagine the pace of change there. For example, my 80-year-old mother, living in a small Chinese town, uses her smartphone for online shopping. Can you imagine this level of tech adoption among the elderly in Canada or the US? China’s main challenge is the CCP and its close ties with Russia, which complicate its global relationships. However, one should never underestimate China's economy or its people's ability to adapt and innovate.

[@alianpedia]

If you want China without CPC, just go to Taiwan.

[@youngbob358]

​@@alianpediaRepublic of China have their owen problem.

[@pablonutribar8708]

China builds a road in three days because they have no rule of law. The government can expropriate land and fast track construction because it doesn't follow any sort of transparent, balanced legal process. That is fine and dandy for your personal convenience until the government expropriates YOUR land or builds a rare earth metals mine next to YOUR house. Is there a possible better middle ground between these two systems? Almost certainly. I, too, have lived in China and Canada. People should absolutely not underestimate China's economy or its peoples ability to innovate. They should also not understimate the CCP's shameless corruption and inflexibility to allow any changes that might pose a threat to their absolute power or accountability - even at the expense of the Chinese ability to adapt and innovate. A society's economic and social development sometimes outgrows its political model. If China wants to avoid war and get back to actual progress and growth, they need a new political model. The CCP is simply unwilling to change and responds to legitimate criticism with beligerence and increased aggression.

[@Nol3j]

Yeah they can finish a road in 3 days, because the government does not give a shit about people's private property, privacy, laws and dignity. And when you say about innovation, it's funny you didn't mention mass government surveillance, I'm astonished why people are ok with that, perhaps this nation is so innovative that their own laws are not important to them. Thanks, I'll pass. The West should wake up, and move production towards the domestic market. They copied enough.

[@jackrunner4677]

@@pablonutribar8708“ because they have no rule of law“🤣， Do you know how many people have realized wealth freedom that can cross class lines because of land acquisition?

[@iustitiaepervenit]

I am reading comments and undrestanding that people no longer can differentiate a propaganda from rational thinking with facts

[@tonyoramos1]

Yeah and/or it’s bots. Which is a good sign, it means they’re worried about this talk

[@geoffreycurrieIII]

haven't ever been able, the vast majority.

[@SoiPingHong]

So sad but so true. At the end of the day, the propagandists will lose.

[@johnbui6530]

It's hard for China to rise when they fake everything.

[@charleneji6759]

I'm reading comments and understanding that some people just pretend to be rational, and fail to understand that China never tries to be No. 1, that China is simply focusing on developing itself, that China knows its economy is slowing down.

[@idellkubicek]

Wonderful speech! Obviously, you are well versed in Zhang Jiadun's theory of China collapse. As a Chinese, I deeply appreciate it, but it is better to let the United States believe everything you say.

[@sladewilson377]

😂😂 he’s delusional

[@patrickjoey9247]

Probably paid by the US proganda dept, they have a huge budget for this kind of activity!

[@nelsontee9833]

Hahah, I like what you had just suggested, ie: “BETTER LET UNITED STATES believe in what you said” Hahha👍good idea

[@vickyhuang1958]

I like your humor sense

[@vutran3758]

This guy’s social credit points after this: -250000000

[@ZhangWei02]

Lol, I wonder how much he would have to donate to the communist party to ride the bus again. :P

[@zhenyuxia7665]

The very first graph is based on nominal GDP, and it included lots of inflation of the US. This guy is just super biased and clueless. China's GDP is way underestimated instead of overestimated. China loves low RMB exchange rates and is very comfortably staying there. There will be no Plaza Accord this time.

[@Kelberi]

USA mouthpiece. 😂

[@py104]

Yarn

[@randomkyle3]

@@Kelberiis he wrong? Does China not have a social credit score?

[@lpl2197]

He said many lands turned into desert is absolutely a joke. Even UN knows in recent decade China turn more desert to forest than any other country in the world😅

[@Echo-b8n]

BBC: But at what cost? The desert is also an ecosystem, you know.🤣

[@rangoman1815]

That's a horrible idea...deserts save the planet from radiation

[@harambelover9433]

Turning desert to forest doesn't matter too much if you pollute nearly every other aspect of your Country lol.

[@janetlim]

It depends on the timeline. Recent decades you are right, pulling to longer term he is right.

[@dcar6530]

Let up-date you: Xi has changed the policy from forestation to deforestation, they cut down trees and turn them into non-arable 'farmland' , then floods come in. you may notice that the crops yields have not increase much.

[@lukeecle117]

Gordon G. Chang: dude, I said that already in my book The Coming Collapse of China in 2001

[@zengyaochi9181]

This time the wolf really comes.

[@razrgu3838]

That guy was a real joke 😂😂

[@drbanana4993]

@@zengyaochi9181 in the end ..the wolf is defeated.

[@xinyucao1247]

​@@zengyaochi9181thoae drone dogs are scary for sure

[@andy339898]

WTO saved CCP😊

[@professor001001]

remember the famous book : the coming collapse of China, written by Gordon Chang ? 😅 it’s still one of the most popular books selling in Amazon. Although it’s been twenty five years, still professors are recommending that book to eco-political college students. What a crazy world😅 you just believe what you believe, and no one can change you even the fact.

[@funpau7549]

Never read it, just googled it, but it sounds like it’s quite true cause about that time came Xi. How do most Chinese people feel about their economy right now?

[@haichaoli]

Haha, totally agree with you. We can never wake up someone who’s pretending to asleep 😅😅😅

[@bishengli]

@@funpau7549 Our economy growth is slowing down, that is true, but, is it just a problem of China or it's a Global problem? He said China is a dangerous country with a map of China surrounded by American military bases. Could you really believe a professor who said that nonsense.

[@007kingifrit]

some predictions are too early. but things are not adding up in china's favor

[@professor001001]

@@007kingifrit i think you are totally wrong. things are getting serious coz everything is in china's favor. if you cant realize that, your good days will end pretty soon. China now is a mega power with both resources and tech, meanwhile the united states are losing its core valve during the bouncing thing between two parties.

[@zboom3000]

I don’t want to deny any of the things he said, but to reach a more balanced or well-rounded conclusion, I think he should also incorporate the positives and pros of China into his analysis.

[@NWMNP]

The positive is that they are the world’s factory for manufacturing. But China doesn’t want to play that role, and cheats any opportunity it gets

[@zengyaochi9181]

But that is what he want to express. positive things isn't the key point of his speech. When making a speech, the content must be concise and focused. Irrelevant content should not appear

[@jasminesong-y3g]

​@@zengyaochi9181 However, his comment was impartial and not objective

[@AmosLiang-rv4we]

看了个开始就没看下去了😂这个兄弟一开始就用了春秋笔法，贸易战以来中国一直在有意降低对老美的依赖，双方一直制裁来制裁去，贸易额自然是大幅度下降额，这是把中美贸易当成全球出口贸易去解释啊。现在全球大萧条，哪家不是一地鸡毛，数据没问题，对数据的解读就阴阳了

[@KyranSparda]

I hope you understand what is called 'criticism'. 😂

[@fw5046]

评论区的中国小伙伴们太可爱了。世界误解中国不是一天两天了，没时间跟他们解释谁对谁错，事实胜于雄辩。但是中国的强大来自于每个努力生活的中国人和海外高知的小伙伴，用知识和智慧去让世界看到中国。中国从历史以来，与世无争，只限于内斗，人不犯我等原则。很多其他文化种族和人类似乎难以理解中国文化。他们用世界其他文化去看待中国解释中国都是剑走偏锋，莫名其妙。但是兼听则明，是我们中国的优良传统美德。❤

[@fain560]

世界误解中国？活在超级防火墙内的中国人，了解世界吗？ 我在中国创业十年，24原则离开。我经历了中国一线二线三线四线城市的商业以及当地生活，中国就是在快速衰败，毋庸置疑。

[@PhilosopherKing-d4n]

50年前就鼓吹中国崩溃论了😂

[@Natsuki-z2g]

Bye CCP

[@miaricola4117]

感觉这样的演讲小伙伴们还是要多多支持的。与战hu局有异曲同工之妙。China is going to collapse, posing no threat to the West at all!

[@vocvoc9895]

这种唱衰原则上是应该鼓励的。只是看到太离谱的话忍不住。

[@noconcensus]

Brilliant, the states, Europe needs this kind of analysis very much!

[@伟赵-d4z]

Any one can have this kind of knowledge and analysis about China. Actually sharing those trash knowledge to these asia-like people is very weird

[@dordorfromhk-hj5vo]

No wonder Turf's ranking is low. Such a biased professor. 😂 On one hand he showed a map of us military bases surrounding China, on the other hand he condemned China strengthen its defence. So a self-centered racist prof. No wonder the audience are uninterested.

[@striker44]

Bots 😂

[@henrydong3105]

战忽局海外分忽

[@parasite3529]

@@noconcensus Many countries today are increasingly dependent on China for their imports. You mentioned that countries like South Korea or the Philippines are economically threatened because of their reliance on Chinese goods. But let me ask-what are the viable alternatives? For most nations outside of the U.S. and Europe-and even for some within-there is a clear limitation in their ability to produce goods domestically at scale or at competitive prices. If these countries were to impose high tariffs or outright bans on Chinese imports, the global economy, already struggling with inflation, would face even more severe challenges. This would inevitably lead to higher costs of living and could significantly impact government approval ratings in those countries. Furthermore, China’s trade surplus is set to surpass $1 trillion this year for the first time in history. Doesn’t this indicate that China’s economic influence and trade strength are not waning but instead growing? The trends you describe actually reflect the sustained growth of the Chinese economy rather than its decline. Instead of framing China’s global trade relationships as a sign of vulnerability, perhaps it’s more accurate to acknowledge that its growing surplus and economic interconnectedness underline its resilience and pivotal role in the global supply chain. Simply put, your argument appears to misinterpret the dynamics at play and overlooks the complexities of the global economy.

[@pohkhui]

Gordon Chang 2.0

[@Aramsa-Khan]

Gordon Chang the modern day Pang Tong. He help gives China 20 years of uninterrupted progress.

[@AoZhang-hy5tu]

Shhhh

[@mikef6399]

We need more of these guys doing propaganda like him. I hope Trump will give him a cabinet position then China will get another 4 years to "go backward". Unfortunately, Donny is no dummy. He knows so well what China's true economic and technological power.

[@frank7701]

Ever after his The Coming Collapse of China was published in 2001 China skyrocketed. Need a round 2.

[@jameslee2465]

is he Gordon Chang's student or apprentice?

[@alllllll-n2x]

But aren’t the four factors mentioned by this gentleman faced by all countries in the world?

[@zzzzz50505]

True but china did not become a wealthy country like Japan and South Korea, before having a population problem, and China have also a huge property crisis were its properties is a huge part of its GDP. Japan ang South korea doesnt have those problems, the only main problem that have china, japan and south korea have in common is Population problem.

[@杜梁]

@@zzzzz50505 我们有一个优点。那就是我们非常能熬！直到把所有对手熬死！然后反击？

[@alllllll-n2x]

@@zzzzz50505JP has been dealing with a pretty tough debt crisis. It’s interesting to think about how "domestic debt doesn’t really count as regular debt." As long as the government is okay with the fallout, they can take care of this debt by swapping it out. Just look at what went down in the EU debt crisis. To really figure out when an economy might make a comeback, it’s helpful to get some solid insights.

[@nicktaber2969]

Not at all.

[@saltymonke3682]

Because China is now getting older before they're rich enough. And No emigration problems in Europe, NA, Oz.

[@violapeng4962]

My Japanese colleague once shared a genuine question that had puzzled them for a long time: Why does the Japanese media report every year that China’s economy is about to collapse, yet it never actually happens?😂

[@Mahindrank-w6k]

WHY IS US AND UK DEBT DRIVEN MORE THAN THEUR GDP?. WHY IS WESTERN DEMOCRACY FAILING MISRABLY?. Now south korea is under matial law. Thats the gift for having wokeism and free speech.😂😂😂😂😂.

[@hynoor7254]

As a Chinese, I appreciate that the West continues to deliver speeches and propaganda that lead Westerners to believe that China will soon collapse. This way, they can keep their distance from us, allowing us to live and develop in peace.

[@lucialu2x]

Great point 😂

[@cameronsinnett8117]

lol, if China doesn’t sort out its semi-conductor production capacity the west will always have it by the balls, hopefully it does, it’s certainly capable of doing it

[@chinaren458]

战忽局海外雇员😜

[@rogerzhang4405]

you are talking too much, let him speak 🤣

[@hy3101]

China will not collapse. Look at its history. It's always just a regime change.

[@3328Jeff]

This (expert) is almost the opposite of what American economist Jeffrey Sachs said. Westerners like to hear these things, although they have never been proven for decades. The most ridiculous thing is that these people can always justify themselves in the end, and they never know what shame is.

[@dongchen7332]

Singapore’s former prime minister, Lee Hsien Loong, has warned it would be “short-sighted” to discount China, citing its ability to follow consistent policies over the long term and the people’s resolve to succeed. He said the world’s second-largest economy was facing different challenges after almost five decades of rapid growth following its reform and opening up process, including a property crisis and shrinking population, as well as rising tensions with the United States.

[@orkun171]

These are all a warning to private sector in US nothing more.USA will soon start acting on to make Chinese downfall a reality.

[@pablonutribar8708]

"He said the world’s second-largest economy was facing different challenges after almost five decades of rapid growth following its reform and opening up process, including a property crisis and shrinking population, as well as rising tensions with the United States." The problem is that there appears to be no reform or opening up process under Xi Dada.

[@dcar6530]

He is not as good as his father for sure.

[@johnsmith100]

The opinions of this lecturer are remarkable. Every Westerner who visits China and creates a KZbin video about his or her experiences there is full of appreciation to the Chinese people and China’s accomplishments.

[@Greenbananas-gr7th]

It's kind of ironic that so many things he's describing about China corresponds to how things are in the States.

[@qianci]

I am an ordinary undergraduate student from eastern China. Due to the difficult situation in China's economy, I sometimes wonder if I should abandon my plans to go to a master's degree in order to avoid wasting time and move to a Western country (where non-top university qualifications are not internationally recognized). I am concerned about the real state of the economy in China

[@GoudenInkt]

AI

[@qianci]

@GoudenInkt Google

[@sendepowersports7794]

years later ，u will found like go to Taiwan in1949

[@imtycoon]

Finding a good job abroad is not so easy than you thought.

[@JonySmith-bb4gx]

​@@qianciYou described USA instead of China😂

[@yunpu636]

The speaker expressed hope that China would be forced to bargain with the United States due to its declining power. However, I believe that this anticipated bargain will absolutely not occur. First, the tensions between China and the U.S. represent a broader conflict regarding the future vision of global order. It is a struggle between the continuation of U.S. dominance and China’s advocacy for shared global prosperity. Second, historically, China has never shied away from confronting powerful adversaries. Even when China was struggling after its founding, it boldly fought against U.S. attempts to establish a strategic buffer zone by seeking to separate the northeastern region from China, thereby creating a geopolitical divide between the superpowers of the U.S. and the Soviet Union. Given its current strength, China is even less likely to make concessions on critical issues such as Taiwan, which lies in its southeast and is equally vital to its national integrity. Moreover, the speaker's underlying motive seems to be the preservation of U.S. hegemony, which involves demonizing China. However, the exaggerated portrayal of China’s military growth and ambitions may backfire. It could alarm U.S. allies, such as Japan and South Korea, prompting them to reassess whether they want to become sacrifices in the maintenance of U.S. dominance. In conclusion, the scenario in which China is coerced into such bargain is highly unlikely. China understands that yielding to U.S. pressure would only invite greater oppression. As Chairman Mao Zedong famously stated, “We seek peace through struggle; if we seek peace through compromise, peace will perish.” This principle firmly guides China’s approach to its sovereignty and strategic interests.

[@ZakiHaider-y9o]

Dude usa is under chinese debt 😆

[@t.s.d.1376]

​@@ZakiHaider-y9oChina's holdings represent only 3 to 6 percent of the total U.S. debt

[@balsarmy]

It is not that simple... You dont understand basics

[@pablonutribar8708]

"It is a struggle between the continuation of U.S. dominance and China’s advocacy for shared global prosperity." Ahahahahahahahaha - is that what we're calling Chinese hegemony now??

[@pablonutribar8708]

“We seek peace through struggle; if we seek peace through compromise, peace will perish.” So belligerence and aggression then.

[@parasite3529]

Thanks for the Great lecture by the way i have several opinions about it. Many countries today are increasingly dependent on China for their imports. You mentioned that countries like South Korea or the Philippines are economically threatened because of their reliance on Chinese goods. But let me ask-what are the viable alternatives? For most nations outside of the U.S. and Europe-and even for some within-there is a clear limitation in their ability to produce goods domestically at scale or at competitive prices. If these countries were to impose high tariffs or outright bans on Chinese imports, the global economy, already struggling with inflation, would face even more severe challenges. This would inevitably lead to higher costs of living and could significantly impact government approval ratings in those countries. Furthermore, China’s trade surplus is set to surpass $1 trillion this year for the first time in history. Doesn’t this indicate that China’s economic influence and trade strength are not waning but instead growing? The trends you describe actually reflect the sustained growth of the Chinese economy rather than its decline. Instead of framing China’s global trade relationships as a sign of vulnerability, perhaps it’s more accurate to acknowledge that its growing surplus and economic interconnectedness underline its resilience and pivotal role in the global supply chain. Simply put, your argument appears to misinterpret the dynamics at play and overlooks the complexities of the global economy. what do you think?

[@moyoyo7575]

Well said. I think what he said is what the korean people want to hear 😅

[@xinyucao1247]

professor lives in a bubble never want to wake up 😊 its maga, usa is the best, other countries are evil 😂

[@patrickjoey9247]

This is a South Korean audience, obviously a North Korean audience would react differently, The video avoids mentioning this, leading some to mistakenly believe it be Chinese audience

[@alexlejd6601]

Regarding the inflation and dissatisfaction of western countries with their governments - that has already happened, and it is worrying ~ 20% approval for many of the leaders of government (France, Uk, Canada, Australia, pretty sure there are more - but those are the tangible ones i know) - historically we know this usually leads to more radical politics (Extreme left and right) - not something that has really happened yet but is a probable outcome. Secondly - Regarding Chinas trade surplus, it's an initial boost due to restrictive policies and not sustainable (boosted by huge subsidies), I think this was pretty well versed in the video - ergo, there are consequences to acting in this manner (which will become more tangible), that is to say, there will also be consequences for western countries. However, in comparison to Western countries, the leaderships willingness to achieve at all costs in China (Also well versed in the video, not afraid to use violence and intimidation techniques within and outside of its own country) - sort of backs the country in to a corner (that they themselves painted) - not generally a nice combination to have with an authoritarian leader with power and connections that have been built up for more than a decade. The point of his speech was not to criticize China - but to put in manners of words - "beware, these are the things that China are facing, if nothing is done, this will be the more likely outcome - however, they will do anything to not land there, even if it means war - hopefully it never comes to that" Additionally a comment from me - the general numbers and trends don't lie - they can be changed willingly, but it comes at a cost - especially on the national level.

[@dpi168]

I will keep this video and watch it again three years later.

[@Jjirehc]

Would he dare to make a prediction on the US?

[@788578]

I've been hearing about the imminent collapse of China since the 80's.

[@gideonge6188]

It is not convincing to give some cold figures, so let's look at what is actually happening. China is a leader in the field of new energy, including lithium batteries, electric vehicles, and wind and solar power generation; China is a world leader in shipbuilding and infrastructure, including the world-renowned high-speed rail. China's maritime trade routes are all over the world, and it controls many ports, including the recent Port of Chancay in Peru. It can be said that except for high-end chip manufacturing, large business aircraft, and biopharmaceutical industry, there is basically no industry in which China lags behind. I suggest that this professor take a look at Bloomberg's analysis report on Made in China 2025. The conclusion I can see is that China has defeated Japan in many industries, and South Korea is currently being defeated.

[@zhuj.y.8903]

btw, 9020 Processor in HuaWei Mate70 Pro is GAA 7nm made by DUV laser machine.

[@europria]

It was not hard to see the leveling before. When inefficiencies in economies are removed , gdp increases from momentum kept under pressure like a released spring. Look at the example of Turkey, Brazil, Argentina or former iron curtain countries. However after potential energy is released they are in the hands of their institutions and level of democracy. Immediately the mechanism explained in “Why nations fail” by Acemoğlu and Robinson, take effect.

[@mikalrain]

Great comment. So, first you get some acceleration from removing unnecessary breaks. But then after a while you're confronted by the limits of your competence. (I'm sceptical about Acemoglu & Robinson's theses, but _your_ point stands.)

[@zengyaochi9181]

you are the real professor! handsome comment!

[@xinyucao1247]

this is too simplified. managing a country is more like a power balance game than just let greed take over.

[@JoeARedHawk275]

GDP might increase, but disproportionately for the 1%. These “inefficiencies” you talk about are required or you end up with America, being one of the most unequal society despite there being so many billionaires. Also, inefficiencies aren’t even a bad thing. Take Norway, which has a positive trade balance and its citizens are among the happiest and richest in the world. Your simplified economic theory is not that useful nor correct. Also, if the U.S. decides to prop up an economy, like it did with Japan and South Korea, it can just loan them a ton of money and their GDP increases. This further shows how your economic theory is way too simplified and incorrect.

[@europria]

@@JoeARedHawk275 to clarify the inefficiencies, it is not something I invented, it refers to any friction related to free flow of money, labor, materials, and information.

[@joo7454]

I have an architech friend with a half dozen employees in Shanghai. He told me Chinese econmey is totally dead. He plan to move to Canada.

[@devinfraserashpole4753]

Canada is down the toilet as well.

[@rog69]

Yea we totally believe you. And judging by recent immigration measures in Canada, he ain’t moving anywhere.

[@joo7454]

@rog69 He already got his PR. It's just take multiple times for him to move all his assets.

[@rog69]

@ how’d he get it? Professional migration? No way he got enough points under it, it’s extremely competitive. He ain’t a refugee too I’m sure. Sponsorship?

[@ohdude6643]

Move to Canada like many other wealthy Chinese.

[@helenzhu8331]

Who said 'China is rising forever' if USA doesn't!? Everything is Evolving, nothing escape! And this world is not Just a Economy Ball, it is a Live Entity!

[@TheEricdapedo]

China can manufacture almost everything, its universities are creating 10 mil graduates annually which prob half are from STEM units. The competitors the US, EU, Japan, Korea etc. what are they doing and can they solve their own issues? The US is leading in AI and software, but pretty much losing in other areas. The EU’s biggest industry automotive is dying. Japan & Korea are not really competitive without the support of US market. So yes China is slowing down, but the competitors are sinking faster. The standard of living in 5 Eyes are falling, what can they do to win the future?

[@kman0074]

They can stop buying shit from competitors and build it themselves. Then it doesn’t matter how good another country is at doing anything cause they won’t care.

[@funskymsg]

The US and its allies can use tariffs to exclude Chinese products

[@007kingifrit]

china can't manufacture much, it has no young people to do the work and no natural resources, it is polluted. furthermore the graduates coming out of the schools are not finding any work.

[@tsuki_moon.1]

Usa leading in ai? 😂. All proggres are from Chinese professor. Bruh you doesn't even know ai benchmark maybe

[@007kingifrit]

worth noting china lies about all its statistics

[@andrewlau9873]

Conceptually Professor Beckley is correct that China and/or any country’s economy cannot go up double digit forever. USA is a perfect example, although in the case of USA, capitalism to its extreme drives the decline of USA. So, his speech did not teach us anything new. A lot of people make their living on predicting the end of China, and they are making good living. The unfortunate thing is that his students would learn nothing and if suggest anything otherwise would get failed. I must confess that I quit the video after 5 minutes. I want to learn, not to listen to propaganda.

[@lkchoh1454]

Japanese No 1, after signed Plaza Accord then was downfall of japan. Rise of China, expect not going up again. It needs to be suppressed and contained. It threatening the west. Who does that?

[@rongoh7270]

Obviously, China as a whole will not cease to exist, its people has shown great resilience and drive for 5000 years. However, an internal revolution, or possible world war can lead to leadership and governmental change. That’s all. There are so many Chinese people in this world we will be around for a long long time, maybe as long as earth is around.

[@funpau7549]

Only wish they are on the Good side. Spreading love and freedom. We would all be happy and peaceful.

[@qijingfan5656]

its people are broke

[@yuetlau9180]

I am not broken. If we claim that we are Chinese and yet welcome it’s breaking down. It would mean that we are broken too. There would end of our dignity and integrity. That will be the greatest lost and tragedy. If this is the case, we are about the sole people would welcome the demise of our mother land. We all fall into the international trap to keep us as a 2nd global citizen. Very very sad.

[@LolaManny-j6v]

@@funpau7549 China is on the good side.

[@issysun4714]

@@funpau7549 This is exactly what Chinese people wish about the US. We wish the US is on the good side, stopping arming proxies for more wars and genocides. The whole world, including the Middle-east, South America, and East Asia, will all be happy and peaceful.

[@ERICchow-ul1zq]

5000 years history. China has experienced many times up and downs. Obviously China still on the rising paths

[@WingkKong]

China just left its down period 40 years ago

[@AmitSheth]

Where was this talk given? Audience seems to be predominantly Asian.

[@kolviczd6885]

Incheon, South Korea. One of the 4 vassals of US in Asia (the other 3 being Japan, Taiwan and Philippine). It's no surprising that this propaganda forum took place there. 😎

[@AccordingtoWarren]

Korea. There are some Korean writings on various screens.

[@ZakiHaider-y9o]

​@@AccordingtoWarren and 3 days later . Korea biggest coolant Samsung lost 200 bln $

[@sirpaddlesworthiii5933]

not sure. Incheon something it said ?? hmm who knows where that is?? Must be part of chinatown in Los Angeles

[@vocvoc9895]

I have visited korea 3 times, I bet only 5% of the audience can understand more than 25% this English speech.

[@赵云-b2q]

说的太好了，没有什么东西是永恒的，就像中国的房地产一样，中国现在面临的问题已经不是缝缝补补就可以蒙混过关的，必须要进行政治体制改革，方向是政治民主化、经济市场化，其他的改革都是幌子。

[@buneng3975]

不可能，只要美国对中国的打压一直持续，我们就不可能要求民主化，否则将会一败涂地。小孩子不懂政治就不要天天念经，说一些美国人教给你的东西，有什么意思？

[@godwatchme3114]

幼稚

[@chaichad7227]

民主灯塔自己都不亮了，49年入国军？你可真是好殖子

[@chatnoir1224]

based pro-democracy Chinese

[@raining_macondo]

嗯嗯，没见过日本失去的三十年，以及台湾和韩国的例子我就信了

[@harrygunawan143]

China will rise or fall can be predict from the effort and enthusiasm of young generation to learn all major science, technology and social science compare to others countries young generation. As long as I see, there is no other countries that prepared their young generation as China do. So, you can take your own conclusion.

[@cameronsinnett8117]

Chinas rise or fall is completely dependent on whether or not they are able to domestically produce sufficient semi-conductors, it’s their largest national expense

[@breadogi7118]

There's people letting it rot and population for china is Halving in 2 decades, non workers are going to be the vast majority of people for china soon, the population pyramid says so. US is also moving to a more protectionist stance. Also fym newer generation, you have no newer generation to speak of.

[@bobao4501]

I just watched this video, which seemingly presents an intriguing viewpoint: that China's economic growth has come to an end. This perspective suggests that it will lead to a more aggressive and authoritarian foreign policy. However, I feel that the analysis and data related to this conclusion have some very evident biases and flaws: Methodological Limitations: Excessive reliance on disputed proxy indicators (such as nighttime lights) and selective indicators. Historical Oversimplification: Incomplete and cherry-picked historical parallels that ignore counterexamples and the complexities of modern nuclear deterrence and economic interdependence. Causal Ambiguities: Insufficient disentangling of domestic factors, external pressures, and long-term structural challenges. One-Sided Economic Assessment: Lack of recognition of China's potential adaptive policies, innovation capacity, and persistent integration into the global economy. I believe that a more balanced, empirically grounded, and theoretically nuanced approach requires greater engagement with diverse data sources, peer-reviewed scholarship, and an appreciation for the complexity and contingency of economic and geopolitical trends.

[@doubleeagle9722]

Prof MB is correct in many ways. I am living in Shenzhen and what I see just correlating to his sharing. China seems to be sinking evening to the grass-roots citizen I meet everyday on the streets. Many of them understand the difficulty the Chinese economy is undergoing but are hopeless. Many young undergraduates I spoke to are not confident that they will get a better live after graduation. This frustrates many and those Parents who have invested sacrificially to give their children a University degree are also hopeless with the high jobless rate currently in Shenzhen...... The worst has yet to come. What we are really seeing is the "rumbling of a huge volcano" that is about to erupt and this will affect the some extend the global economy. Hence we have to start to minimise China's impact right now. Don't wait.

[@kofsphere]

interesting, an Associate Professor in Political Science is giving a talk about macro-economy and is trying to make a forecast.

[@briantruth3397]

It is fine to list out economic figures (even forgot to mention it is global slowdown), but it NOT fine to label China as a threat or potential risk to the world. US global military deployment is far more than everyone combined, US is doing a lot of negative actions to regions around the world. By calling China a threat or potential risk and say nothing about what US is doing is simply in sin.

[@pablonutribar8708]

China is a threat. They're a revanchist, regressive, "facist" state that threatens their neighbours regularly. The USA are no angels, but they're better than China.

[@Darkhoof]

Would be interesting to see what he thinks about the evolution of the US. It seems to me that there's more than one super-power that reached this peaking power stage he mentions, and the US seems to be in a more dire state now while China still has a few decades before the confluence of factors will drag them down.

[@emmagirl1225]

As a Taiwanese, those points aren’t fresh new ideas to us but glad it’s been put together a rational organized manner easier for people to digest and gain better understanding of China.

[@寅-m2t]

上面有个俄国佬让你们台湾人学乌克兰，准备好送死了吗？还是在家早就偷偷绣红旗了？哈哈哈

[@fantuan3259]

I believe anyone can do such a presentation just to discredit any country in the world.

[@brucelu9933]

I don’t trust politicians, he is one of them.

[@MarcS777]

While I agree China's economy is slowing down, and has its fair share of local, regional and international challenges, but many things that Beckley is not substantiated with legit data....just his opinion or some pictures/charts here and there (with no reference/credit). So as i listen more, my respect for Beckley begin to drop by the minutes.

[@gooddayzy]

I was listening to the talk without knowing the title. I thought this guy was a politician😂

[@taichigreentea]

hope all American politicians listen to this well-informed gentleman and stop being Tonya Harding.

[@LukeBrady]

Best video I’ve watched all week

[@vickyhuang1958]

20 years ago, the west believed China's economy will collapse, after 20 years, the topic still going on and the opinions are still the same

[@yuyu-zr8dn]

可能是满足了你的某种情绪！西方的每个政客和智库都在制造这种情绪，而从中获利！

[@woofwoof5289]

One of the best talks I’ve heard on this matter, if not the best 👍🏻

[@vickyhuang1958]

The coming collapse of China, written by Gordon Chang 25 years ago. It's a very good book. Lots of thoughts about China are the same.

[@user-thbjwxuetac]

Here is a fact that prof. Beckley didn't clearify. We Taiwan is already an independent country for a really long time. China CCP has never ever ruled Taiwan or inherited it from any regime.

[@cuz_i_sedso9574]

How do you talk about global power and NOT talk about BRICS and the Petro dollar losing its status as the lone reserve currency?

[@ViperVizier]

Going to come back to this in a few years.

[@manuelm.1356]

Great. Best speech I heard for months. Thank you

[@xinhangxu8897]

speech like a piece of shit

[@vickyhuang1958]

20 years ago, the west believed China's economy will collapse, after 20 years, the topic still going on and the opinions are still the same

[@teng27]

Basic laws of economics. You can’t grow double digits forever.

[@BlowAway11]

Incredibly well presented points. It´s been a while that I saw such good talk on the topic. Thanks, Michael Beckley! Freedom and prosperity to all. :)

[@Ilus01]

Of course that doesn’t include the Chinese 😂

[@yuyu-zr8dn]

你可能又要失望了

[@Ilus01]

@@yuyu-zr8dn 我不會失望，失望的是Michael和被吹走的11。

[@alanng4436]

China should help resolve the differences between Russia and Europe. China and Russia alliance is good. China, Russia and Europe alliance is better.

[@BrianOh-uc3gm]

What are these "differences" you speak of? Is it the invasion of Ukraine. That is not a difference, it is a global threat. China doesn't see Russia as a partner, it sees it as a poor/ dangerous nephew.

[@cal3190]

Europe and Russia will never be in an alliance as long as the people currently in the Kremlin stay in charge and that could be for several more decades.

[@devinfraserashpole4753]

@@BrianOh-uc3gm According to who?

[@zuriel028]

When analyzing rivals, some experts may give an actually non-objective conclusion due to their experience, their stand, their ideology as well as their cognitive level. Obviously, this expert is just one of them.

[@zuriel028]

As a Chinese, I'm both disappointed and glad when watching this video. I'm disappointed that even if China has been deeply involved in the global economy over the past few decades, the west's analysis of our country remains biased. As well I'm glad to see the west still cannot understand China's development mode as well as our goal. 😂

[@zuriel028]

I couldn't help but laugh out loud when I saw this professor just simply categorized ccp's central power as fascism. Well, now I realize why the United States' China policy has always failed. Unqualified advisors gave outrageously wrong advice, thus contributing to the failure of the American geopolitical strategy.

[@schrodinger5562]

We know that China and many Western countries, especially the US, greatly love this view.

[@adedapoosanyinbi93]

Wishful thinking and his analysis is based on a Western world view. The conditions in the world have changed. China's current depression will be insurmountable is what he is really trying to say which is completely unsubstantiated. The difficulties are not impossible to overcome. China is creating new land in the desert. China is not running out of people! He even tries to model China in a Japan ageing population mould. The superior Chinese leadership selection method is excluded from his analysis. The tech and trade war being waged by the United States and the West is a failure already. So the planned encirclement is failing. What about the BRICS? Donald Trump is breathing fire and brimstones over the ongoing dedollarisation and is going to sanction any hostiles that dare to dedollarize. Now China has a vast Internal economy and the recent Russian Federation China gas transfer pipeline will be a win win economic growth 📈 system that gives competitive advantage over the EU which has plummeted due to following American demands. He did not even mention the fall of the EU's economic growth. China is buying less of other countries products because China is trying to dedollarize and reduce exposure to sanction risk. China has also started selling off the dollar bonds as quickly as possible. China has been accused of over production by Yellen and the EU leadership which is laughable.

[@schrodinger5562]

@@adedapoosanyinbi93 A very comprehensive view!

[@tomman2257]

Opinion disregarded for thinking BRICS is anything but a meme

[@ShinjiKataoka]

Beckley is borrowing ideas from Gordon Chang 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@jameslee2465]

is he Gordon Chang's student or apprentice?

[@miang62]

@@jameslee2465his illegitimate child

[@bevinpang8594]

I am indonesian, i suggest this profesor ask alon musk why built factory in china instead of korea or USA😂.

[@Nordic_Sky]

Great presentation! What a pleasure to listen to.

[@itsme-nt6yu]

Same as what Chinese leader wanted everyone to know "Keep a low profile 韬光养晦" 😃

[@dbatn9827]

“韬光养晦” won’t work the second time in a short period of time.

[@SophiaLee-c5u]

As a Chinese, I really carefully listened to all the points. I am wondering could this topic be put into an overall context, like, how the trends of other nations.

[@senxu2012]

As a Chinese person, you should be able to understand his nonsense, such as claiming that China's land is either polluted and unsuitable for farming or has turned into desert.

[@NWMNP]

@@senxu2012lollllllllllll😂😂😂😂😂 Liu continued, “Xi is correct to recognize that preserving farmland is an indispensable factor in the quest to achieve food self-sufficiency. China has experienced alarming levels of farmland loss and deterioration in recent years. The most recent land use survey showed that China’s total arable land decreased from 334 million acres in 2013 to 316 million acres in 2019, a loss of more than 5 percent in just six years. Shockingly, more than one-third of China’s remaining arable land (660 million mu, a traditional unit of land measurement in China and equal to roughly 109 million acres, slightly larger than Montana) suffers from problems of degradation, acidification, and salinization. The land has been eroding faster in recent years. The annual net decrease of arable land has risen from about 6 million mu (about 988,421 acres) from 1957 to 1996 to more than 11 million mu (about 1.8 million acres) from 2009 to 2019.

[@NWMNP]

@@senxu2012I guess as a Chinese person, Baidu doesn’t show your own country’s data? 😅

[@qianhu1517]

@@NWMNP oh my, you are convincing a Chinese how he should know about his own country's facts.

[@NWMNP]

@@qianhu1517 lol, oh so you guys are farm experts now? China’s total arable land decreased from 334 million acres in 2013 to 316 million acres in 2019, a loss of more than 5 percent in just six years. Shockingly, more than one-third of China’s remaining arable land suffers from problems of degradation, acidification, and salinization. The land has been eroding faster in recent years.

[@striker44]

Anything that goes up goes down eventually. It is true by history for any civilization.

[@ZakiHaider-y9o]

You described usa .

[@GroverAU]

@@ZakiHaider-y9o Projection!

[@devinfraserashpole4753]

@@GroverAU Not really lol.

[@serenachen9385]

But the Chinese always prosperous

[@breadogi7118]

@@ZakiHaider-y9otrue as fuck, usa has been declining for a few decades now. I feel it is rising tho, bidens economy acts plus trump wanting even more seems pretty wanting.

[@tianshuz]

Wikipedia as of 2024: Michael Beckley is an American political scientist currently serving as Director of the Asia Program at the Foreign Policy Research Institute, associate professor of political science at Tufts University, and a non-resident senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute. His research focuses on great-power competition, US-China relations, alliance building, and "US defense policy" in East Asia.

[@pondyellow3286]

The more fancy the speaker and conference, the more accurate their predictions are in reverse direction

[@vickyhuang1958]

20 years ago, the west believed China's economy will collapse, after 20 years, the topic still going on and the opinions are still the same

[@tekboi1984]

There are too many problems in the world for all people. I hope that everyone can work together eventually and realize that at the end of the day, borders no longer matter.

[@balsarmy]

It is not enough. Humans ARE cruel. Actually we havent rose education to needed level. Very low empathy there

[@sunnytneoh3126]

Another Gordon Chang and Fukuyama logic.Full of BS

[@zhixuanchen6914]

Says someone who never lived in China and probably believed that the Global Times is 100% factual.

[@007kingifrit]

did your handler tell you to mention gordon chang? it isn't someone anyone in the west has ever heard of.

[@EmergentStardust]

The important part is the ratio of working age adults. The biggest defining factor is whether the future, automation, and robotics will change everything. It's uncertain for every country, but to think that China is in a downward spiral simply is a poor assessment of that country's capabilities.

[@snowwhite9790]

Chinese fifty-cents are good in English. They really flooded this comment area

[@jkxpg]

Exactly. All paid for by Chinese taxpayers.

[@No_information_is_available]

Fifty-cents😂😂😂

[@raining_macondo]

Yea, when i cant rebute with anything, I always throw a comment like this of yours.

[@funpau7549]

Searched Lotte and Carrefour investments in China. Wonder if Costco will survive. Would you buy Chinese stocks and homes in the next 5 years? It took Japan 12 years for gdp and 30 years for housing prices to go back to the prices of 1990.

[@balsarmy]

Military stocks. Homes - no.

[@klowen7778]

Excellent and informative presentation... thx alot, Michael. Although judging from the number of angry 'little pinks' flooding the Comments section, you obviously 'struck a nerve'! ✌️

[@barslars6038]

They certainly are triggered.

[@fs5775]

Please don't look at the man behind the curtain everyone! 🤣

[@tiaoyi-bx5yi]

While China's exports break historical records in 2024, only Taiwan's green frogs are excited about the illusion of China's collapse.

[@laikiugarland1082]

as well as your

[@funpau7549]

It’s odd YT keeps deleting messages that are not pro China.

[@yangjiang6122]

People are now considered old men to buy a BBA car, for so many good EVs to buy, end the rise of China? What a joke!

[@rudyalfonsus686]

remember guys, WHEN ENEMY MAKES MISTAKE, DON'T INTERRUPT!

[@Axeman929]

Well at least you understand the true nature of the relationship.

[@loremasteringwion9930]

Only positive discussions are permitted, while any negative ones are deemed untrue. How unfortunate that such a mindset persists

[@ZakiHaider-y9o]

​@@loremasteringwion9930and 3 days later . Korea biggest coolant Samsung lost 200 bln $

[@VL-inquisitor]

The China Collapse theme is a story that has its buyers anywhere in the West. Yet this is also a story that never needs to be proven, let alone materializing. Isn't that intriguing?? I bet people are still selling this story 10 years or more from now

[@FRENZEE-l3]

How can anybody be happy to say a country is in slowdown when it is still growing everyday. There are a lot of problems in every country but nobody tries to make a country look bad. But except some jealous people.

[@sammyasefa2233]

he reality of China's rise and its global influence is far more complex than the arguments made by critics like Michael Beckley or Gordon Chang. While they emphasize China's challenges and predict its decline, the actual situation appears to be the reverse in many ways. China continues to grow economically, expand its global influence, and challenge the U.S.-led world order in significant ways.

[@wypung8806]

12.27 *Anti corruption drive that scare lower level official in engaging experimental entrepreneurship*??? Are you saying pro corruption drive entrepreneurship or innovation??

[@kenho-wr5ul2rh7m]

A propaganda that whatever Chinese govt did/does must be wrong. They are not living in reality

[@灵动编程]

A speech filled with bias and not based on facts is of no value.

[@chadwickwu]

这正是他们喜欢看到的，希望海外的所谓智库都往这方面靠拢，这样中国的复兴之路会更加顺畅

[@funskymsg]

@@chadwickwu 其实他说的那些问题内网里也有很多人在说，根本就是大众常识。房地产、地方债务、内需不足、人口老龄化、外部环境恶化这些问题都很难解决。

[@peterjurgern7924]

only an us-american professor can come to this kind of analyses. Why does he not concentrate to make his own country, the USA great again. Great without arrogance, great without wars, great without ordering the rest of the world around, without understanding the real values of live as an individual and even more as a nation. I do not remember China having started so many wars in one generation like the USA. In my country we say, clean the entrance of your house, before you tell your neighbours to do so. this is a humble comment and voice from Europe.

[@pablonutribar8708]

You don't remember China starting so many wars because you haven't bothered to read any history books. China has had wars/skirmishes with virtually all of its neighbours since the end of WW2.

[@peterjurgern7924]

@@pablonutribar8708 definitely not more then the USA, and most of them that had nothing to do with a threat to the USA. We do not need an imperium that tells other coutries what they have to do. My country has excellent relaltions with China and i hope it remains like this...and china has never threatened us with war or sanction...thanks

[@pablonutribar8708]

@@peterjurgern7924 Incorrect. The Chinese invasion of Vietnam had little to do with actual land disputes. It was pure aggression. It was also quite recent. We could also add Tibet to this list. The Chinese haven't had as many wars with the USA because they were a backward nobody for much of the last 150 years. Pretty hard to be a successful imperial power when you can't even feed your own people from your poor governance. Wait until your country doesn't tow the CCP political party line in thoughts or speech. Then you'll experience the "sanctions".

[@robr.5044]

Great talk! Thank you!

[@No_information_is_available]

Question: Do those who said they currently live in China and assert that China is still in a prosperous stage know that watching KZbin is illegal in China?😅

[@金建钢]

不非法的渠道是，可以申请公共网络也可以用中国大陆的身份证去澳门或者香港买中国移动在香港或澳门的电话卡，可以在中国大陆使用。当然也可以在网络直接代购……但是价格会比中国大陆地区的费用高一些……

[@tiaoyi-bx5yi]

Only Taiwanese robots would think that using YT is illegal. There is no frog in Taiwan that has the influence of China's Li Ziqi on YT.

[@FreedumbSauceFriedFrogs]

Yeah, cry about it.

[@sergiogcollado]

I was wondering the same

[@楊WWWhaoerd]

​@@sergiogcollado你想知道吗？你想知道个屁

[@roddersh5396]

Professor CIA puppet lol... Summary of this talk. China bad, US good 😂😂😂. Join our team lol

[@markusting9335]

This fellow is looking back.....stay in 80th....deep in the well

[@Mega1988You]

Wtf r u saying? Broken English

[@playcloud3344]

China is now leading in most of tech sectors and different industries They have a population problem but so does every other country

[@KenKen-pm1xo]

Hahaha another Michael Gordon stupidity. Fooling so many silly people

[@odonnelly46]

China is a failed society - they just don't know it yet! 😂 Also, it is historically the world's biggest human rights violator. More people were killed by Mao and his policies than by Hitler or Stalin! Shameful.

[@rolinstli7351]

Time will tell, actually most angels you gave are misleading 🙃

[@skyjockbill]

No-one I've read yet in the comments section has addressed his facts and evidence; most people seem to be just reaffirming their existing prejudices.

[@grasshopper3918]

Another China expert😂

[@fs5775]

Only allowed to be called "China expert" if CCP is paying your salary and can control your words. That will ensure the truth I am sure 🤣🤣

[@pcp284]

Another 🍌🍌🍌.

[@ZakiHaider-y9o]

@@fs5775 you are kicked out of Twitter for lying about china

[@vickyhuang1958]

20 years ago, the west believed China's economy will collapse, after 20 years, the topic still going on and the opinions are still the same

[@godofsmallthings4289]

🔥The fun fact is we all (atleast 90% of us) are watching this china declining video in a mobile phone or laptop or any other device which is made in china or latest our house or apartment or our office has atleast a single product which is made in china that shows how powerful that country is 🔥🔥

[@brocklanders6969]

That's not a fact, that is an opinion. China is begun its decline. All the cheerleading isn't going to stop it.

[@manbearpig8731]

China is shifting making cheap niknacks to higher value products. It's also trying to shift the GDP growth away from exports and real estates. This is very normal slow down.

[@PhillyDave-x3j]

A centralized, CCP-led approach risks alienating other nations and could lead to unintended consequences. The long-term viability of such a strategy is questionable.

[@funskymsg]

@@PhillyDave-x3j It is not that China is actively alienating itself from other countries, but that the era of globalization is coming to an end. Right-wing politicians are becoming more and more popular around the world. Excluding foreign immigrants and foreign goods in order to create jobs for their own people is the core idea of ​​many politicians.

[@lizongren7708]

Thank you for your analysis!

[@mitnonnarath5745]

I heard another video that guys prediction about China Collapse like almost over tens years ago the China still Rising until today he’s are fail to prediction about his videos. 😅

[@user-yk9is7ii5h]

Gordan Chang is the mouthpiece

[@wesj1064]

Still rising? Do you not understand what population and financial decline mean?

[@michaelzm76]

@@wesj1064 Comparing the economic growth rates of China and G7 countries, you will find that G7 is even worse. Yeah, look at this fxxking world. Who is worse than others is the meaning of this world.🤣

[@zionen01]

Some of the headwinds mentioned are actually becoming very real in the USA.