No cuz volvo published sources of the engine back in a day.
@ztx92306 жыл бұрын
change the engine
@ShiceIceDice6 жыл бұрын
you mean making a new counterstrike, cause you cant just change a games engine.
@manganistDIMITRI6 жыл бұрын
I would love to ban cheaters like the valve twilight sparkle guy who goes on tf2 servers and uses aimbot and a noise spambot to frustrate players and ruining games.
@vojta95936 жыл бұрын
Man they are baning cheaters but how do u want to kill it? If they will ban a cheater he will buy game on another acc and Valve gets new money.
@MD_Hooligan6 жыл бұрын
The game is called *Counter Strike: Global Offensive* Not *Counter Strike: Global Casino*
@quantumplatinum30296 жыл бұрын
Gambling Strike: Global Casino.
@jaxdrumm21956 жыл бұрын
Oh man, how long did it take to come up with that one?
@chiptrippyfox61066 жыл бұрын
HA!
@sanskar_vines80496 жыл бұрын
XD
@andymansquirrel24326 жыл бұрын
Right, it´s not Global Casino. If someone wants something from me he can buy it. Unfortunately he must have money. And btw: CS:GO is one of the hardest games because of all the cheaters. I would not like to gamble with this kind of wannabes.
@Sashko_Black6 жыл бұрын
He said the G word.... KZbin: "DEMONETIZED"
@mattthemightymeme6 жыл бұрын
Rocdoge youtube is an asshole sometimes!
@cahdoge6 жыл бұрын
"Gun". Huehuehue.
@brainlessman5486 жыл бұрын
Good
@samb65386 жыл бұрын
"Golly Gosh"?
@donuberry76546 жыл бұрын
Rocdoge that’s why the you know what happened to KZbin
@seminixp6 жыл бұрын
I love how a lot of gambling channels are complaining, without actually mentioning gambling.
@ush44416 жыл бұрын
They tried to justified themselves by saying "you killed the community", "CSGO is a dead game now". It is just SATISFYING!
@nocop53826 жыл бұрын
Bebe csgo dead along time ago
@ush44416 жыл бұрын
@loli : 1.8 M viewers on the last Major?
@Blaze9able6 жыл бұрын
LoliLover 69 >dead game >one of the 5 most played games on steam. Pick one.
@Andre-tc9sb6 жыл бұрын
ofc they wouldn't mention gambling, if they did their arguments would be invalid.
@JP-yx6go6 жыл бұрын
I like how WarOwl's voice gets higher when he gets excited
@bobbysayer58014 жыл бұрын
aaand everyones voice :p
@Skelyboss3 жыл бұрын
who's doesn't
@mancavegamingandgardening99016 жыл бұрын
Gambling in CS:GO and still no De_vegas. Its cool, I'll wait.
@hy9er2136 жыл бұрын
ManCaveGaming lol
@johnlimzhiyue6 жыл бұрын
Time to go down nostalgia lane.
@jjooee66996 жыл бұрын
ManCaveGaming the 1.6 players know this. Was it in 1.5 tho?
@mancavegamingandgardening99016 жыл бұрын
I remember Vegas being a map in Beta 4
@adamsz4156 жыл бұрын
CSS version of De_vegas was the best!
@Sean-mw8xp6 жыл бұрын
"THIS IS THE WORST UPDATE IN CSGO HISTORY" -CSGO KZbinrs and sctreamers who own gambling scam sites
@TheWarOwl6 жыл бұрын
pretty much. I think it was a good update, with some bad for traders, but overall, need to KILL GAMBLING.
@pixelist85016 жыл бұрын
but it's unnecessary... they could just file takedowns or ban the bots of gambling sites.. this just makes trading stupidly slow and inconvenient
@muck13016 жыл бұрын
Dude I fucking hate gambling and think this update is OK but I just bought gloves on opskins and now I need to wait a week for them to come. It is annoying for almost everyone.
@derek77626 жыл бұрын
Eikka H doing that doesn’t fix the problem- they’ll just keep popping back up. The only way is something like this that permanently universally fixes the provlem
@BACATCHER6 жыл бұрын
Hey wtf I saw you in the comments of another csgo video today, and I think even replied to it lol
@CuteC36 жыл бұрын
Sir, I must say you are so sexy when you analyze things. The reason I’ve been subscribed to this channel is because you actually make sense with your arguments and stand on a neutral position when debating. Thanks for making quality content, you are truly gifted my friend.
@donaldbrotherstr74846 жыл бұрын
Gay.
@Xfiles7816 жыл бұрын
Reaper Not really, "She" did a compliment :p
@dangerchopstick61296 жыл бұрын
WHERE IS THE UPLOADS ?!?!?!
@donaldbrotherstr74846 жыл бұрын
Xfiles78 how do you know, maybe brent is a woman in disguise. *HAS SCIENCE GONE TOO FAR?*
@sweetattan31356 жыл бұрын
have a sub! nice animations
@BadriBlitz6 жыл бұрын
The only KZbinr who understands this update!
@edanlikesmovies88966 жыл бұрын
Yes! WarOwl is the best fucking csgo youtuber. He isn't a cotton-headed shill for gambling sites and legitimately cares about the game.
@BadriBlitz6 жыл бұрын
CatchingHackersInMC yes u are absolutely correct
@RaimaNd6 жыл бұрын
He, I'm a youtuber and youtube partner since 2007 too and I understand it! :( Nah I know what you mean. Most bigger csgo youtuber don't understand this update and/or get supported by gamblingsites and such stuff and that's why they don't like the update. I personally like it and all what WarOwl said was right.
@Blaze9able6 жыл бұрын
you got it wrong man. the others youtubers understand the update, but they don't approve it, and the reason why they don't approve it, is because MANY KZbinRS HAVE PARTNERSHIPS WITH GAMBLING SITES, and naturally, if these sites get prejudiced, they will get too. warowl on the other hand, always said that he does not agree with the skin market, which means he doesn't have any reason to dislike this new rule in trading.
@kRySt4LGaMeR6 жыл бұрын
2kliksphilip too :P
@midge_gender_solek33146 жыл бұрын
Thanks for staying on the light side, dude! Your and 3kliksphilip's channels are the only big ones with some actual meaning and importance.
@XanderNiles6 жыл бұрын
ти во Philip and Brent are the best CSGO KZbinrs. Period.
@Teo_stra6 жыл бұрын
3kiks and warowl are the best Csgo youtubers period
@yaboishooty55526 жыл бұрын
Steel makes better tutorials than both of them, shit anomaly makes better tutorials half the time.
@Teo_stra6 жыл бұрын
Thermonuclear_Banana I disagree, while steels videos are informative their not as entertaining as warowls or 3kiks
@ce4616 жыл бұрын
ти во you know if valve wants to take the next step on getting rid of gambling site they need to redo the trade system they have instead of asking or buy items with money why don’t they just put the skin up and make offers for other skins.
@thomaskurian44466 жыл бұрын
Cl_gambling 0
@cH4iN1236 жыл бұрын
Would'nt it be sv_Gambling 0 since Server not Client?
@deeznrecord18876 жыл бұрын
Gambling 0?
@AlrexX26 жыл бұрын
It's a console command joke
@jskeen95036 жыл бұрын
Okieh no taking out the bots would be client side if he is talking in the perspective of the bots
@cH4iN1236 жыл бұрын
I get your point but I was joking about it being clientside so it would only be disabled for yourself and serverside is for everyone "on the server" *wink wink* ;)
@arkaua6 жыл бұрын
How come Valve took this long to do that in CS:GO? They've done that in Dota years ago.
@TheFeriner6 жыл бұрын
Gardevoir probably cause there was ridiculous demand for csgo skins right off the bat, so valve let it cook for a while to make money. If they added this ban early on, skins probably never would've boomed like they did
@awwn69066 жыл бұрын
and thats why dota is dead
@matthewgreiner24486 жыл бұрын
An Ngo >second on steamcharts >dead
@olitomar6 жыл бұрын
cuz they made a shitload of money and it was hard saying no to the money
@davidkooi6 жыл бұрын
An Ngo Dota is far from dead my man
@aryashetty39246 жыл бұрын
CS:GO is not only about gambling, it's a game that we people enjoy spending time. So people saying ' the game is about to end' and all don't play the seriously!!! They are in for gambling and money. Shame on them.........
@MUSiCK96 жыл бұрын
THIS.
@gytisdramblewolfskis85216 жыл бұрын
I was trading for like 2 weeks once, traded from like 20 cent to like 20 euro of items(no gambling). Now no one got this option.
@joe-nl9jd6 жыл бұрын
Arya Shetty ^^
@danieldo88596 жыл бұрын
Exactly. If you play just to gamble skins, then just uninstall an go to Vegas. I mean a little was ok but its been excessive over the past few years, and competitve scene is ruined bc of teams throwing for skins.
@baloocallout6784 жыл бұрын
@@MrMasterMizerSo you're saying Counter Strike starts as a gambling game? Explain this to me. Why the heck does the older CS games are still bring played? It's the game not because of the "gambling". Infact, the older games doesn't even have skins.
@pcsecuritychannel3 жыл бұрын
That ominous warning at the end: "Like the cockroach, they are resilient, they will be back."
@boopydoop4916 жыл бұрын
Genuinely great video. You're extremely well spoken, funny and you get a lot of points out there effectively and succinctly. Even a year after falling away from CS:GO, you still amaze me with the quality of your content. Really, really nice job, man. Keep it up.
@Nirgranth6 жыл бұрын
*Ban The Bots*
@lukec14716 жыл бұрын
Nirgranth Shah won’t work. They will just be replaced
@asdfasdf-yr9cl6 жыл бұрын
do it
@brownieboxproduction6 жыл бұрын
TryZoid some, which means it makes it easier to then ban the bots who get pass
@anujsharma89906 жыл бұрын
ya but the skins wont be.
@eternaldeagold82806 жыл бұрын
You clearly don't know what a trade ban is
@GamerJlee6 жыл бұрын
I thought the example you gave of Timmy was really good, and that way with the that this will slow down the trading so that way if their is a scam then Valve can take action, and correct it. The one thing that Valve needs to be careful of are people who say they were scammed when it was a legit trade. I have seen this happen before, and I really hope Valve will be on their toes when it comes to each case, but we will have to see.
@abcthecamper17996 жыл бұрын
Its rare that valve will do something if you got scammed.. a lot of people get scammed every day. it will a pain in the ass to help all of them
@xFredman6 жыл бұрын
"... that way with the that this will..." ummm... Wait a minute, my mind is having a debate on what that means... Oh I think I got it nvm.
@versts6 жыл бұрын
Oh hello rofl
@BlastFM6 жыл бұрын
Valve never do anythig about scammers, there's mobile authenticator for that, and Valve specifically are saying that Steam Support DOES NOT give back any scammed items
@MrJoehundy6 жыл бұрын
If youre dumb enough to get scammed you dont deserve your skins ....I have a 10k inventory that might be worth 1k after this is all said and done .....a scammer is the easiest thing to spot ....if people are that dumb theres no saving them in life because they are the people that would report after the 7day ban has already passed
@electrode82396 жыл бұрын
Valve did 7 day period of trade delay -> the one of the largest cite OPSKINS exploited the system and ignores -> valve takes down the biggest cite Well, Valve's Way.
@timmytubz43616 жыл бұрын
“Don’t mess with king dice”
@Sparkles6 жыл бұрын
Lmfao that tophat picture man killed me
@TheMinecraftLord646 жыл бұрын
Sparkles ☆ #1 Gaming - CSGO & more ☆ u love gambling... why are u here?
@dumbasswar21986 жыл бұрын
finally seeing sparkles in a warowl comment section. feelsgoodman .
@miller17436 жыл бұрын
ayowtf chill
@Metafux6 жыл бұрын
He is commenting here so that he will receive more attention, as he is aware of the fact that his channel is dead.
@ajbro64286 жыл бұрын
Shit sake guys he is allowed to watch and comment on any video he likes, stop acting like you own someone and let them do their own thing.
@BOSKD6 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you made a video on this, I've seen a lot of CSGO KZbinrs saying how trading is absolutely ruined and it's an awful update with no benefits to the player, and these channels are often sponsored by certain sites that you even say will be affected the most.
@ger_daedrican-gameplays82856 жыл бұрын
What did you expect?^^ Trading is kind of ruined (more or less), but to be fair: If I would want to trade, I would rather live with a 7 day trade delay on items, than no delay and a shitton of bot accounts.
@veikkaluimula31356 жыл бұрын
Little Johnny69 this Hurts faceit players as Well. Any body Who makes money from faceit league Cant resell the skins as fast as they used To. Personally I think the update is Great.
@deadedd32356 жыл бұрын
If your definition of playing CS:GO, is sitting on a third party site and trading skins you don't even look at (let alone use in game) are you even a "real" CS player? I think CS can only "die" when the actual player base stops playing it.
@nukye6 жыл бұрын
True I only play csgo for fun I dont need skins it's waste of money and useless
@GeneralKnife6 жыл бұрын
DeadEdd theres a reason why css and 1.6 still have a playerbase because people actually love the game. Same with Csgo. I'll be glad if these skin freaks leave.
@cooldude93726 жыл бұрын
I used upgrade sites every now and then because it's fun to have a rush and win or lose some money. I personally have upgraded a couple of my skins that i use in game. I'm not all against the update, but I'm also not all for it, I'm just a little disappointed that a community may have died.
@maxi60556 жыл бұрын
If you remove skins (witch they will NEVER do) it will die, i guess that was the point that the owl was making
@louiesandford39006 жыл бұрын
The only reason hate has come out of this is because of the youtubers are making this hate storm because this may make the whole gambling industry go down hill
@PTCreeperKiller6 жыл бұрын
I see that you put the Game Corner theme from Pokémon (HGSS, I believe) on the background. Nice.
@garrickmorley44656 жыл бұрын
3:39 upper right corner, I was watching this match and that was beautiful
@h3moodi6 жыл бұрын
You are what made me improve in CS:GO. Without your tutorials and general vids..... I'll be playing cluelessly. Thank you so much for making my life with CS:GO so much easier and more enjoyable!!!
@LeCreator6 жыл бұрын
0:45 how did this T in toilets didnt see u?
@kravason16166 жыл бұрын
I know right? He probably uses some uknown exploit. Valve pls fix!
@jesuschrist36096 жыл бұрын
He's using premium hacks
@articcenturion83876 жыл бұрын
He might just have a FOV of like 10.
@sansirow45956 жыл бұрын
No, the T is just a silver
@profilen51816 жыл бұрын
LeCreator he’s on a green screen!!! How do you not see that !!!
@Zeus99206 жыл бұрын
I feel having captchas on every steam trade is a better solution because it wont kill the trading scene
@Zeus99206 жыл бұрын
Also sites are just using different steam items to gamble now such as pubg items
@Raine-SSR6 жыл бұрын
I agree with this fully, having a way to make ONLY people able to trade would be great, and it'd solve alot of issues people are arguing about in the way the high level trading is going down, having captcha would work wonders! +1
@Polite_Cat6 жыл бұрын
you can get captchas solved for pennies or fractions of a penny each by people in third world countries typing away for hours
@Ivan4es16 жыл бұрын
Perree bots killing trade, because now you can't sold practically anything with profit.(
@FizzyhexDev6 жыл бұрын
captchas can sadly easily be bypassed via proxies
@desaint94694 жыл бұрын
I noticed a man who knows economics when he say “Ban the bots and then get rid of those skins to bump the price of items back up”. God bless supply and demand.
@lmelc6 жыл бұрын
i love how warowl addresses his thoughts this is an amazing view on the update that many csgo players thinks wld kill the community. I heard Shroud's thoughts on it and i cld understand his stand but warowl's perspective rly gives the game credit for being a game.
@blehmeh98896 жыл бұрын
0:47 "I'll wing it." Owl puns in our War Owl confirmed?
@m.z76206 жыл бұрын
Finally a youtuber that understands why this update is actually one of the best updates. It is a step in the right direction for valve. But the stupid community will complain about valve no matter what they do. And most of the youtubers are saying this update is shit because they own or are affiliated with these sites.
@Pristine06 жыл бұрын
Problem is that, this update will barely affect most gambling sites, their systems are usually have some sort of currency so like you deposit skin you get x$. Even with the 7 day, their skin balance is still large enough to still have a available stock so that way if the player can still withdraw skins fairly easily. With traders who are independent, generally most don't have a large stock of skins (maybe some will), and with trading prices can easily change within a week so this update will minorly inconvenience gambling sites but mostly affect traders.
@thaijimenez22576 жыл бұрын
Anomaly lmao
@hoanghiepdang9856 жыл бұрын
I think somebody will always stay positive even if Vavle destroy csgo with broken updates
@BadriBlitz6 жыл бұрын
Csgo magic mcskillet :P
@michasiscov51156 жыл бұрын
1Wild5tyle This really hurts the trading community gambling sites and csgo as a whole it's just more and more complicated and a pain in the ass to trade now
@awpsenpai16356 жыл бұрын
gambling is like cancer, it looks like it is gone but you cant cure it
@crowbar36 жыл бұрын
U right
@matarinio64126 жыл бұрын
Why some people survived cancer
@fakedeltatime6 жыл бұрын
Because you can live with cancer as long as it's in control.
@charliedickson14436 жыл бұрын
Matan Matan even if you survive cancer, there's still a pretty good chance it will come back. The tumors can be removed but the actual disease can't be
@demetriosb57586 жыл бұрын
Matan Matan When we say people are “cured” it means that the cancer have been almost wiped out to the point where your body can actually stop it from getting out of control. Almost everybody in their lives will get cancer, but our bodies will just kill off the cell and move on. Only until it gets out of hand is when it gets dangerous. Hope that helps.
@Rapide5686 жыл бұрын
I've been laughing so hard at that cheeky "Do it" :D
@joramsim6 жыл бұрын
Dew it*
@GarrettRSV46 жыл бұрын
The only thing that would suck about this, is that if skins are more locked to the steam marketplace, and trading is limited, then that opens up a whole other headache that could result in more price fixing scenarios in the marketplace. Versus, with trading cites on the rise, it's a lot harder for scammers/collectors to price fix the market since there are a lot more skins circulating the community via third party sources.
@SiFWolf6 жыл бұрын
DEMONITIZED for saying Gambling?
@All4Grogg6 жыл бұрын
Good algorithms make errors on the side of caution. Errors still suck, but KZbin has to protect it's brand.
@SAMPAIDAWG6 жыл бұрын
You tryin' to skew my narrative boy?
@SAMPAIDAWG6 жыл бұрын
what? I'm not saying its Aliens...but Aliens.
@Jako19876 жыл бұрын
I got ad from national gambling company of Finland
@JungleScene6 жыл бұрын
WAROWL, the pokerchip vs token analogy was spot on. I dont know if thats your original idea but its a prime angle to come at this from. Great video. thanks for your insight!
@neilnograles6 жыл бұрын
The Graceful Savage I agree. Well said warowl!
@yonexsp84486 жыл бұрын
Sanojj dude you can't withdraw money in steam you literally just described steam lol
@ahreuwu6 жыл бұрын
Yonexsp *laughs in opskins*
@danielhertzmaybe6 жыл бұрын
Oops! Did I say *The G word?*
@shadowdestroyer50336 жыл бұрын
gigga
@rapnoc41586 жыл бұрын
Daniel Hernández Cargol gay
@alastorkunn6 жыл бұрын
Daniel Hernández Cargol u mom gambling
@danielhertzmaybe6 жыл бұрын
-Gaben- *Gayben*
@originalturtle39116 жыл бұрын
The G Man is running all these G-Word sites
@Chris-mw1gf6 жыл бұрын
How did you go to overpass?
@oltrizvanolli34936 жыл бұрын
Mavish Fernandes Nice bait
@poyopoyo46196 жыл бұрын
How is it bait? Its an actual question he's asking. I'm actually wondering too!
@ger_daedrican-gameplays82856 жыл бұрын
I´m afraid that no one understands the question then.
@cirojnascimento6 жыл бұрын
he took the train
@dolphinerofachero31596 жыл бұрын
Olt Rizvanolli now that's an hyper realistic bait
@Jacksaur_6 жыл бұрын
Amongst all the "CSGO IS DEAD AAAAA" videos, it's good to see a voice of reason.
@CorruptIgnition86 жыл бұрын
Literally nail on the head analysis. I love it. I personally know a friend who constantly trades with these sites. Its literally an addiction she CANT stop. Every week or so I will hear her talking about trading 1-3+ things to get something more expensive/new.
@AyySorento6 жыл бұрын
Maybe now people will actually play the game for the game
@sototm85786 жыл бұрын
lmao if we didnt play it before the skin trade lock this is not gonna make us play again for sure... lol
@AyySorento6 жыл бұрын
SotoGames CS:GO is a bigger spectator sport. Plus most people with an expensive invetory didnt really play the game. They just traded. Now that those people are starting to leave, it should go back to people who play the game and not people who mainly trade.
@red_isopat6 жыл бұрын
SotoGames then leave, we don't miss ye
@duppy666.6 жыл бұрын
Nah bruh it's dead!
@ShaDoW-uc7bn6 жыл бұрын
1:06 LOL brilliant editing!
@Mepulan6 жыл бұрын
3:36 in the shadows
@nonptat6 жыл бұрын
The thing that destroyed the Counter-Strike community gets destroyed by the community's leaders. Fitting.
@alanaslukjanovicius32876 жыл бұрын
Non-Potato gambling literally made csgo grew. But sure its destroying it nevermind the fact that player average per day already started to decrease since the update (small changes still lead to big things).
@sunbae-nim6 жыл бұрын
Alanas Lukjanovicius I will never believe this claim. There is absolutely no way gambling kick-started the growth of CS GO, there are factors bigger then this, maybe the fact that the CS throughout its iterations has been the best competitive FPS?
@alanaslukjanovicius32876 жыл бұрын
Amazed I never told you that you have to believe this claim. Outside of people who carried about cs or competitive fps in general it wasnt known as some sort of masterpiece. Gambling and skins gave this game so much publicity which you could take it positively or negatively. Valve are hypocrites because buying cases and buying keys is the same thing yet you guys praise them for changes like these. Main problems that were with this game 5 years ago are still here. And essentially Valve has become cash grabbing company. Its evident by looking at updates for each esports game and their project on Artifact. They arent doing 7 trade ban to eliminate gambling or such, they are doing this because they cant profit from gambling sites. Developers showed with consistency on how out of touch they are with competitive cs and esports scene of cs. Skins and gambling is one of the main reasons this game received more and more publicity. It welcomed new players and since the update the numbers of players started to drop by little. Cs will never die but the golden age is gone and it was gone with the end of csgolounge. And as i said you dont need to agree with my opinion aswell as warowl subscribers which are never looking into a bigger picture and this video made me laugh. Numbers speak for themselves and csgo is on downwards projectory.
@sunbae-nim6 жыл бұрын
>Amazed I never told you that you have to believe this claim. Outside of people who carried about cs or competitive fps in general it wasnt known as some sort of masterpiece. Yes, you're entitled to your opinion as I am to mine, but I'm allowed to sway yours as you can to mine it boils down to whether you want to do so. >Outside of people who carried about cs or competitive fps in general it wasnt known as some sort of masterpiece. I was under the impression CS GO or CS as whole was a masterpiece in the context of competitive FPS and eSports in general? You said that people outside of that spectrum wouldn't know it as a masterpiece when in reality they do. You've literally said people outside of those who care about competitive FPS wouldn't know about or recognize it as a masterpiece.. why would they? if they aren't actively looking for competitiveness in a game then of course they wouldn't go to CS GO nor acknowledge it as a masterpiece; instead they'll go to Overwatch, Fortnite or PubG And essentially Valve has become cash grabbing company. Its evident by looking at updates for each esports game and their project on Artifact. I want you to show me which updates APART from cases show cash grabbing, because you're not forced to buy these cases, and the entire game itself costs like $15. As for 'each game' I can only speak for TF2; in TF2 the same scenario applies as in CS GO. > They arent doing 7 trade ban to eliminate gambling or such, they are doing this because they cant profit from gambling sites. Speculation, you need more. >Developers showed with consistency on how out of touch they are with competitive cs and esports scene of cs. Yes and no, we have things like the Revolvo, the AWP nerf, negev and others that show yes Valve don't understand the scene, what the problem is with gun x or gun y. But then there are things that show yes they do understand like remaking all the standard maps (minus Cobble hasn't had a revamp on the scale of say Inferno or Nuke) or gun changes. This is an issue I'm in middle of so I can't really agree or disagree entirely with this sentence. >Skins and gambling is one of the main reasons this game received more and more publicity. It welcomed new players and since the update the numbers of players started to drop by little. It welcomed new players, but unless there are figures that suggest this was a huge increase I'm more likely to believe that more people that found out about CS GO didn't think at all to join it. The Tmartn Syndicate reveal occurred in July 2016, thats the big event that brought CS GO gambling to the 'world stage' and..actually *SteamCharts show an increase of 5.82% from June 2016 to July 2016 or about 19,466 players, so thats 19.4K new players in July. Now consider this, the average players for July 2016 was 353,777.. 19,466 is 5.5% of that average.. thats hardly a huge amount; these are supposed to be the 'new players' which made CS GO big, but why is it so small?* >Cs will never die but the golden age is gone and it was gone with the end of csgolounge. Actually CS GO IS in its Golden Age, the eSports scene is blowing up, the last major Eleague Boston saw an overall peak of *1,847,643* thats pretty big for game which you argue isn't in its golden age, and earlier on from Eleague Boston previous majors saw continued growth and viewership. In 2017 eSports Earnings saw CS GO as the 2nd best earning game behind Dota 2 with 894 tournaments being hosted and $19,252,556.11 being earned. SteamCharts might show a slight decrease in average players as of late but its a measly -15% from the average peak of February 2017, peak numbers continue to be at 600k+ which hardly qualifies for a dead game let alone a game 'past its golden age.' >And as i said you dont need to agree with my opinion aswell as warowl subscribers which are never looking into a bigger picture and this video made me laugh. I don't need to agree with your opinion yes, I disagree with most of it which is why I wanted to change it xd. I think you're the one not looking at the bigger picture. >Numbers speak for themselves and csgo is on downwards projectory. Find numbers that argue against my own (or rather SteamChart's, EMS One's, eSports Earning's) that suggest otherwise, because CS GO doesn't seem to be on a downward spiral like you said it is.
@shikany6 жыл бұрын
First off, I thought your video was great, and I agree that skins are not the basis of the game (and that gambling/scammers can be VERY harmful), but I do have one question: In regards to trading, you did say that the 7-day ban is kind of negative. In order to still have time to find and regulate bots from third party sites, do you think that a 24-48 hour ban would be more appropriate, so there is some sort of compromise for traders? I realize that the issue being dealt with is enormous, but seven days seems a bit extensive to me.
@TheHandgunhero6 жыл бұрын
Depends on whether you want automated scans which utterly fail, or actual humans to comprehend the cases being brought forward. I'd argue that it should actually be 2 weeks given how mammoth the task is though.
@sosa21536 жыл бұрын
You think that skins are not the basis of the game but just like Anomaly and Summit said CSGO will go back to being a mediocre competitive game, skins helped a lot on the growth of CSGO + Valve is doing this in a way for them to win more money because players will be forced to go back to case openings this way enriching Valve
@rad1calracoon7136 жыл бұрын
Aidan Templeton better yet have items only available for trade once. And after that u cant use them anymore :D
@gytisdramblewolfskis85216 жыл бұрын
the plus WarOwl mentioned would not with only 2 days of trade ban. Lost skin investigtions take minimum of 2 days, by the end of investigation the item can still be traded 2-4 times with 48 hour rest.
@shikany6 жыл бұрын
+Frost Derek I get that. I never said that the skins didn't make the game more popular, but I just think of it as an optional thing. Also, the point about the cases is pretty good; Valve is a business, they would want to make a profit.
@bennguyen21496 жыл бұрын
damn those where some clean transitions, nice job WarOwl!
@reallycool6 жыл бұрын
I am not disappointed that skins are a bit more locked down, but I would also like to sell my entire backpack now.
@fropps16 жыл бұрын
You should probably wait. Once trading gets harder your inventory will probably become more valuable since it's much harder to get seriously valuable items.
@ZoaN096 жыл бұрын
Luigi Plumber not money, credits. Or steam wallet funds. There is quite a big difference.
@itecnus34906 жыл бұрын
Ill buy your entire backpack for 10 dollars
@SoapyTaco6 жыл бұрын
I sold my CSGO inventory 2 weeks ago, I'm extra glad I did now because this really complicates things
@mfThump6 жыл бұрын
wait a little while, you'll make a tad more :)
@David-td9pb6 жыл бұрын
I love how is in the background playing dont mess with king dice :D
@lolollilol26556 жыл бұрын
Duff 15 noticed that too ;)
@DrTrilby6 жыл бұрын
You were on point today WarOwl! Loved the video. You've really grown in screen presence as an actor. It's very professional now, like a talkshow host. Thanks for all the hard work!
@roideus6 жыл бұрын
The really optimal solution is basically forcing those bots to sell their inventory on the steam market. The supply is so low because in many cases so many skins are just sitting in databases not even being utilized.
@fuenf.6 жыл бұрын
This timed trading ban of items hurts me in two ways. I liked to buy items from sites like OP skins as giveaway-items for my stream because I could trade them away immediatly. Now thats not that big of a deal since I can buy them early and have them in stock. But sometimes I want to send my online-friends a skin for their birthday, this is mostly spontaneously and I can't do that anymore. :(
@alejandrosanchezbast6 жыл бұрын
But WarOwl, what happens if my father breaks his leg? How am I going to pay for it?
@tgdhsuk35896 жыл бұрын
you breaak his arm too CYKA
@bossmanlegovoa6 жыл бұрын
You sell your gut knife to CSOFFER.ME SHAMELESS PROMOTION
@Judge_Artyom6 жыл бұрын
Oh you used King Dice's theme. How fitting.
@Fikrul6 жыл бұрын
I REALIZED THAT TOO!
@abdallahouazzani9186 жыл бұрын
0:25 wow
@iamlogdog6 жыл бұрын
6:39 Exactly, they could have a huge inventory of skins waiting for the trade ban to expire, so I don't see how is this the end of CS:GO Gambling. On the other hand, I don't know how will traders find a way around this. And I really doubt that valve would ban the bots. I don't even know how would they know if an account is a bot or a legit account.
@shadegona20664 жыл бұрын
You didn’t watch the whole video, did you.
@rafemcknelly37813 жыл бұрын
Coming back two years later to notice that the Boston major finals is playing in the background. Those were the good old days.
@Lukas-ft6te6 жыл бұрын
This guy is a smart boi
@ErikGsson6 жыл бұрын
Yes, Like Dumbledore in Harry Potter.
@leander246 жыл бұрын
A smart boi with a good heart
@rd65476 жыл бұрын
I think it's an unpopular opinion but I don't care about the trade update,trading has been dead for a long time.
@Insertnamehere2556 жыл бұрын
For real, I haven't legitimately traded since the days of CSGO Lounge (Rest in Peace match betting)
@arsalanali74996 жыл бұрын
Quzga It is especially with the introduction of sites like tradeskinsfast. People never trade with each other if the trade value exceeds 10 dollars. Ive only seen people trading with each others only if they want to trade like 3-6 dollars worth of skins.
@kll909226 жыл бұрын
jeffrey j jonnah jhonson not really ... traded my knife this summer using csgolounge with other people.. bought pubg ow and dbd and still have moee then i started with.. but i guess i will remain with this money forever because NOW trading is dead..
@DjSL3ID3R6 жыл бұрын
Trading isn't really dead, it's just going back to: "I'll trade for a skin I like to play with" not "I'll trade for a small profit 50 times a day"
@IEnjoyDbdAMA6 жыл бұрын
tbh I don't think this will change anything, those who want to gamble will simply move on to PUBG skins instead, although those who want to trade up their cs go inventory will be strangled.
@sieevansetiawan47925 жыл бұрын
Then let them move to PUBG. Our goal is not to stop those gamblers. Our goal is to clean our beloved game from them.
@Devinfuller76 жыл бұрын
I never realized how creepy the trees move in CSGO, thanks WarOwl love your stuff
@emerykj18303 жыл бұрын
Came back to this years later, just realized something. 4:45 ish Valve says that they see an item only goes around real players once per week. This means they can detect real vs fake accounts, yet do nothing for so many scams involved in fake and bot accounts.
@habere4 жыл бұрын
As a TF2 player, I think doing something like this or trying to "kill bots" could have some unfortunate side effects. CS:GO may be more of a bartering economy (since there isn't a single item used as currency), but if Valve spreads this system to other games some legit sites will be hurt. Marketplace.tf, Scrap.tf, and Backpack.tf are all legit uses for bots, and if bots go away or even get a 7-day ban then the already dying trading community will be seriously weakened.
@shukky39606 жыл бұрын
Oops! Did I say the G word? Haha. N1 one.
@Bleudog6 жыл бұрын
Dolan Bright Hey it’s you
@marcusswegsire55866 жыл бұрын
N1 one, as in Nice one one?
@socksthesloth38726 жыл бұрын
Valve: Let’s help out the community by trying to regulate skins and to stop scams! In all actuality: We just killed trading, cheating is still everywhere, and DayZ is be out of early access before we add 128 tick servers.
@EmApex6 жыл бұрын
That wasn't recent, its been in the game for over a year
@socksthesloth38726 жыл бұрын
TryZoid they ain’t banning nothing if Vac doesn’t even work in the first place XD
@kingtito96216 жыл бұрын
Being an admin on a trade server and almost making $1,000 in profit the last 8-9 months. This really slows down the process of making anything at all. Since the update all the prices of skins went down the only thing that happened is I lost a lot of money.
@JAydUBr66 жыл бұрын
I support this decision by Valve fully, honestly think that once you get an item you shouldn't be able to trade it at all unless a person has been on your friends list for a month+ and then, it can only be traded between those two people from that point.
@aladdin16336 жыл бұрын
Gambling and skins was killing csgo
@boobak6 жыл бұрын
no
@yazzuo72136 жыл бұрын
Aladin Le Surfer Bagdadi Wtf no 😂
@MrMasterMizer6 жыл бұрын
Try again.
@samstundis3396 жыл бұрын
All these gamblers mad af LOL
@derickvorster48736 жыл бұрын
Actually, cheating has killed CSGO. its dead.
@introbeast43936 жыл бұрын
Positive change. However its not enough for me on many of the other people to come back and play CS:GO. If vavle added 128 tick servers and got rid of cheaters me and many other would be in a heartbeat.
@underworldshinigami6 жыл бұрын
I think everyone would be back regardless of rank
@vitalnutrients7446 жыл бұрын
If wallhacker and “other hacking” got fixed too instead of just aimbot
@tomekl34766 жыл бұрын
Same
@mihirx276 жыл бұрын
Kill the Cheaters. Do It. *_Do It._*
@RMJ19846 жыл бұрын
End of gambling? That sounds like a good thing imo.
@nougayork136 жыл бұрын
It's really nice to see you posting a video where you are clearly enjoying making this content!!! You can be proud of yourself
@thegamingapprentice40226 жыл бұрын
Valve is just doing this because the case sales have dropped, look at any gambling/skin site u have twice the chances to come out with a skin, using valve cases u can speed upwards of $100 dollars in cases and make $3 back, but doing the same thing in a skin site and buying a single $100 case most of the time the minimum return will be $30, yes it’s still a huge loss but at least u get a half decent skin out of it instead of 100 3cent blues. (Just my opinion as a avid gambler, trader and LEM in CSGO)
@jxnaz37376 жыл бұрын
he used End and Gambling in 1 sentence XD
@mhrocks9096 жыл бұрын
Guardian destroying noobs in the background
@sniperdgaming52706 жыл бұрын
I can't find a single point which i disagree with there.
@raccsn42716 жыл бұрын
Great vid! an unrelated thought: Is there a first video where you say "I have no closer" ^^
@ItsLightless6 жыл бұрын
I just realized what music was playing in the background at the start of the video... You have great taste Mr. WarOwl, I applaud you.
@username655856 жыл бұрын
Can't they just apply time outs selectively on accounts that high frequency trade rather than apply the delay to everyone regardless of what they've done?
@xyrsze9996 жыл бұрын
When your in class but you see a warowl vid. So you get out of the class
@Tony10356106 жыл бұрын
You're*. stay in school
@jaggerjdm97876 жыл бұрын
RIP my $20 inventory on skinhub...
@Henry-be5eo6 жыл бұрын
Last night (Approximately 20 hours ago) I got scammed of my M9 Bayonet Doppler (FN Phase 2) which was worth about $400-500. When I contacted valve, they didn't do anything about it, not even a reply. I know where the skin is currently but nothing is being done about it.
@connorcrezee82356 жыл бұрын
The problem with banning bots that hold many skins is that while it will hurt the third party websites, valve would be pissing off tons of good customers who have skins or credit on these website because once valve goes after them then they have no reason to keep customers happy by refunding them for any skins or credit that they loose to banned bots
@AlejandroVales6 жыл бұрын
CSGO Skins are gambling in itself!!!
@rafael36466 жыл бұрын
i liked to trade my skins when i got bored of them, guess i'll have to sell them and buy another one, paying 15% to valve
@calvinros6 жыл бұрын
So you’re talking Irish now? Please get your accent back as usual 😉 Love your video’s WarOwl and I completely share your opinion.
@1mpetuou56 жыл бұрын
CS:GOMontages I thought I was the only one who noticed it. Like it's pretty weird to hear him talk like that...
@poppysilver6 жыл бұрын
that not an irish accent lmao, sounded more canadian than anything.
@hydro53786 жыл бұрын
That's no where near an Irish accent. American accent is so strong it's impossible to mistake the two.
@villus93846 жыл бұрын
As a trader, I can barely make fucking profit anymore. This update sucks if you want to trade at all man, not great
@man13044 жыл бұрын
Nice attention to detail by putting King Dice's theme from Cuphead into the background. Fits with the theme since the whole plot of Cuphead is y'know... them gambling and losing a bet with the devil.
@rujularora65056 жыл бұрын
How about ban the websites?
@Arch-Tau6 жыл бұрын
Not that simple.
@tgdhsuk35896 жыл бұрын
why not valve could force 50% value of a skin go to their pocket before you turn your skin to gambling coins and the reverse ie if you put a £100 knife to gamdom, valve takes a £50 fee in their pockets and if you make £50 from gamdom then £25 oes to their pockets also if you want to return it ingame thatway valve makes alot of money, and if they dont then it forces everyone to use their ingame case opening and in the end win win and that extra money can be used for free operations or source 2 + 128tick
@remm_ttv6 жыл бұрын
Didn't they try that already
@weeabooshunter47596 жыл бұрын
because more sites will take their place
@tunico34236 жыл бұрын
Just put captchas on trades. Bots wont be able to complete it. GG
@youknowwhatsreallysofunny6 жыл бұрын
A step in the right direction.
@blogblock6 жыл бұрын
Counter strike will or won't survive regardless of gambling
@DarkGarfield_6 жыл бұрын
blogblock Its dead, period
@blogblock6 жыл бұрын
Its relatively "mature" in it's development cycle
@BadgerScrub6 жыл бұрын
Dillchi millions actually...
@jamrah87136 жыл бұрын
Keem MemeZ with The DreamZ i hate it when people say period like they are some god. Just put a full stop like a normal person and not some edgy teen. CS isnt dead and it never will be. CS has dominated the esports scene every generation, from 1.6 up to GO
@drybrusheverything30343 жыл бұрын
I can't believe it has been 3 years since these changes.
@uno_SSBM6 жыл бұрын
My problem is that the official way to get skins is through gambling, and the odds are awful. Until cases or whatever changes its still gambling whether its first party or third.
@anweshpatel30986 жыл бұрын
Skins are themselves the biggest scam ever .So the biggest scammer is valve 😡
@Pinkman9996 жыл бұрын
No one tells you to buy them
@ger_daedrican-gameplays82856 жыл бұрын
how can something optional that does exist even be a scam?
@Peteru696 жыл бұрын
Since it's 100% a choice, not really a scam. However, this update does help Valve RAKE IN TONS OF MOOOOOONEEEYYYYYYYYY
@theluanvuong58866 жыл бұрын
Guess who is not afraid of dead threats ?
@druster34736 жыл бұрын
Valve should implement something like prime++. To play a match in prime++ (like I call it here), you have to run an anti-cheat program (like ESEA or faceit) and you only get matched against other players who runs the anti-cheat in the background too or you can link your account to your ID, so if you once get banned for cheating you need a new identity (I know that you still could take your parents ID... it's just an idea). I don't care to wait longer for a game to start, I just don't want to play against players with only CSGO, 400 hours (or even less) who drops 40 and do fishy plays all the time.
@underworldshinigami6 жыл бұрын
DrusteR esea and face it aren't anti cheat you tard they're private servers just ran on a private more monitored anti cheat where as valve at best used pre recorded games the private servers monitor real time suspected cheating players and ban them immediately
@tomekl34766 жыл бұрын
DrusteR its not easier to just add better antycheat for everyone?
@mihirx276 жыл бұрын
Linking ID Cards? This ain't no online passport registration forum, so that step would need ratifications from Government Organisations. And Cheating at Video Games ain't a federal crime, so such security would not be provided to Valve
@druster34736 жыл бұрын
It's just how far I would go as a player. I would let the CIA check my computer for cheats that I can play against non-cheaters. There are better solutions for sure...
@mihirx276 жыл бұрын
Can we kill Smurfing Next, Valve? Please?
@nathanfletcher65616 жыл бұрын
I'm very curious as to if this same method will be applied to Team Fortress 2. A lot of trade-related sanctions have eventually been shared between these two games such as having to wait a week to trade an item bought from the in-game store. TF2 also has an incredibly high number of players dedicated to trading skins, hats and other miscellaneous items, and if this shows to have a more positive effect over negative effects for CSGO then I'm fairly certain the same restrictions will be applied to TF2. I'm very curious to see the result of this all.
@realmackle4 жыл бұрын
I like how the background footy is FaZe vs. Cloud 9
@yaminsiddiqui46906 жыл бұрын
This video is a must see for csgo_devs and valve devs, p.s great video warren xD
@tomekl34766 жыл бұрын
Yamin Siddiqui they 100% see warowl videos
@sheroxx37876 жыл бұрын
dude i kiss your eyes
@dragonslayergoblineater90486 жыл бұрын
I liek nice legs shavved India 🇮🇳 #1
@dilbertgaming27346 жыл бұрын
Sheroxx we all have our fetishes...
@WonToTwee6 жыл бұрын
I hope this steam monopoly ends one day they have way to much control in modern day PC gaming. And i think if valve doesn't get there shit together we will begin to see a shift of platform
@g00mz266 жыл бұрын
Max Mills how fucking sick if Discord was a gaming platform though. Can’t you agree? Community tab for all your servers and friends. Would be sick as.
@roideus6 жыл бұрын
DIscord? No one with half a brain uses that...
@WonToTwee6 жыл бұрын
Steam is a wonderful platform. Its just they have zero competition and they know it and it begins to hurt the community with lack of innovation
@Tony10356106 жыл бұрын
i mean they do have one competitor being GOG(but a lot of games on GOG are also on steam). and then Nutaku for the ;) games
@Tony10356106 жыл бұрын
[KSH] a platform for ;) games.
@josiahjohnson3756 жыл бұрын
Good stuff. I'm glad to hear someone express the obvious good side to this change. Most people are simply freaking out.
@theonedan15896 жыл бұрын
Just straight banning bots will lock all items in their inventory leading to lots and lots of high tier skins being deleted.