The Endless Blower Problem: HVAC Tech's Troubleshooting | Ruud x-13

And today’s video went to a job where the blower motor would not stop running. Remove the 24 V from the module and the fan we continue to run. Since the system was out of warranty, replace it with a Genteq evergreen blower motor and not an OEM motor. 
Ruud Ultra series blower replacement
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[@user-su5ft8lc9q]

Sir you really need to be using knee pad of some kind. YOU ARE DONE WHEN YOU LOSE YOUR KNEES.!!!!! BELIEVE ME I KNOW. ONE OF THE BEST TEC TIP YOU EVER GONNA GET!!!

[@KoolinwithKrauss]

Absolutely appreciate that tip!! You are 100000% right my dad would tell me the same thing, I have a kneeling bad and knee pads, but need to make it a conscious effort to utilize them 🤦‍♂️ thanks again!!

[@scotts4125]

My X-13 in a 1.5 year old home with a Carrier did the same. I also put a rescue in. Kept the old one in case of an emergency. Blower wheel came off using the Ted Cook method. :) I didn't have the installer warranty it because they wanted more in labor than I could buy the rescue for. My smaller Carrier has a Broad Ocean ECM still going. I added louvers to the A/C closet doors too so hopefully it helps with static pressure.

[@KoolinwithKrauss]

Absolutely!! Sometimes Teds method works… not all the time 🤣 he’s a goof!! Ya man anything to help that system breathe for sure!!

[@mikehellekson]

Man if attic units I’m my area were that easy to access I would still work on them.. around here you usually have to belly crawl or be a contortionist to get to them.

[@KoolinwithKrauss]

I don’t blame you! I would say about 50/50 for the attics I get into are like this vs the crappy ones. definitely fair share but I also don’t have the crawlspaces 😅 generally though, closets and garages.

[@nhfdtb]

Get a wire wheel for your impact, it makes it a lot easier to clean the shaft on the blower motors. You can make it cleaner than using sandpaper.

[@KoolinwithKrauss]

Jam it!! I definitely need to get that would make better sense! Thanks for that Tim 🫡

[@domrod1579]

That’s what I use too. Works great!

[@dumptrks]

Happy Holidays bro to you and the fam

[@KoolinwithKrauss]

My man!! Happy holidays to you and yours also 🙏

[@robertmackenzie2985]

I stopped using sanding cloth around Y2K traded it for a wire wheel on the impact never bought another box of sanding cloth. When I saw this video pop up on my feed I was hoping to see you pull out a pocket reprogramming tool for the module!

[@KoolinwithKrauss]

People have mentioned the wire wheel, I should definitely get on that! Well hello at the rate this things fail might just invest into the whole thing 🤣 my tropic supplies programmer is down so they have to send out somewhere else get programmed, tad bit annoying

[@Eddy63]

Good little vid Jake ... Ted would of had a $100.00 bill in that wallet ad Merry Christmas to you and your wonderful little family

[@KoolinwithKrauss]

🤣 I totally thought about doing it over the condenser saying something about uncle Ted 😂 merry Christmas Eddy!! Same to you and yours brother 🙏

[@user-su5ft8lc9q]

Ted Cook would carry 1,000 dollar bills if they made them.

[@stephenarthur5267]

I've been installing in-line surge protectors, seems to have helped quite a bit.

[@KoolinwithKrauss]

The dedicated x-13 ones or just like the ag3000? I’ll have to start moving those because I believe that will drastically cut down as well! Thanks for the input 🫡

[@stephenarthur5267]

@@KoolinwithKrauss depends on the application and build out of the system ie. Supplemental heat and things of that nature. My go to is always the zebra in lines though. Over here it’s pretty much a must have because the grid tends to be so temperamental.

[@KoolinwithKrauss]

Very true the power in this area is so dirty it kills alot of the electronics so prematurely

[@stephenarthur5267]

@@KoolinwithKrauss also something to consider if you have a system that is problematic with motors is to look into static pressure and system/duct sizing, I’ve had a rash of new customers that have had issues with x13 motors and ultimately it was found that the system was not built out correctly. Just something to keep in the technician mental toolbox

[@KoolinwithKrauss]

@@stephenarthur5267100% I’ve had to explain that situation to a lot of customers that their under sized ducts, improper install techniques to the platform etc. definitely man 👍

[@chevymom9776]

Another one rescued by Krauss

[@KoolinwithKrauss]

Got em going 😅

[@HVACingMyWay]

Been having that issue a lot lately specifically carrier products

[@KoolinwithKrauss]

Is just terrible especially when you just know that it’s has the module and gotta face it. May just start throwing psc’s back in em

[@vincentgrueter7759]

Its not the motors that usually go bad. Its the modules on the back of the motor. They go bad because of surges of power. Putting a surge protector on any variable speed unit is highly recommended because of this fact

[@KoolinwithKrauss]

Correct! Modules from my supply aren’t as readily available as the whole assembly unfortunately! 100% agree with surge protection I recommend to them ag3000 minimum or the icm493 to really CYA

[@TomLawson05]

Thanks for the video great job have merry Christmas and a blessed new year

[@KoolinwithKrauss]

Thanks watching Tom!! Merry Christmas to you and yours as well and happy new year 🙏 🫡

[@pnajera3938]

Try them Azure motors for attic or garage units. If you have a local Ferguson in your area

[@KoolinwithKrauss]

Will have to stop in and check em out! Pretty good success?

[@robertmackenzie2985]

Here in Port St Lucie down to West Palm using Gemaire and Tropic Supply I haven’t seen a heat kit on Rheem/Ruud without a disconnect.

[@KoolinwithKrauss]

Same here, most of the time that’s what I see, the disconnect in the knockout portion,

[@robertmackenzie2985]

@@KoolinwithKrauss when im doing my installs I make sure to carefully remove the knockout not to make it look like i used a can opener. It can make the grade an install C real fast.

[@IslandbreezeMechanical]

So common now. At least it was running.

[@KoolinwithKrauss]

Absolutely!! I did tell the customer at least they had it, but they wanted to shut it off at breaker 🤷‍♂️

[@tedperry2441]

Merry Christmas to you and yours take care...

[@KoolinwithKrauss]

Merry Christmas Ted!! Thanks for that and same to you and yours!! 🙏

[@tphvac87]

Why not clean the wheel while you got the motor out? I tend to if it’s easy and accessible and there’s a water source. Good work man! Love the channel!

[@KoolinwithKrauss]

Definitely agree with you Tom! I’ve done that in previous videos if it’s in rough shape, this one was fairly clean, good 4” media filter. Appreciate you 🫡

[@woodystokes1543]

Give me a psc any day 😢not to mention the cost 😊.

[@KoolinwithKrauss]

Dude right?!? 🤦‍♂️ it’s wild

[@c_young-hvac4586]

Ruuds problem ... in my opinion is cabinet design....to much moisture buildup .......i can see the mildew in that from oklahoma

[@KoolinwithKrauss]

I just think x-13’s suck in general , no matter the manufacture probably do to the area I’m in and the power is crap! Agreed on the design tho, and tons of mildew … or is that mmm..mm…MOLD 🤔 😳

[@joshahrens8261]

Fuck cleaning that blower wheel while you’re in there huh

[@KoolinwithKrauss]

Fuck outta here with that shit. Blower wheels not even dirty that’s oxidation on the metal 🤦‍♂️

[@John-bx6ed]

Hey none of y’all know the fan relay solution for the stuck on fan on ..in these situations?

[@madeinusa1576]

Not on an x-13 motor module, doesn’t have anything to do with the relay, the module wasn’t receiving the 24v required to run but would still run.

[@John-bx6ed]

So in a pinch install a fan relay to break the 1 high volt leg to the motor and common and green to the coil of the relay

[@KoolinwithKrauss]

Solid point! Never thought about it dude honestly 💪

[@John-bx6ed]

I’ve left a few that way just they had no oem motor or x13 available at the time and had to beat my skull to figure it out and it works bro 👌 love your vids btw

[@KoolinwithKrauss]

@@John-bx6edhell ya dude!! Friggin slick honestly, I’ll be doing it from now on that’s for sure. Appreciate it 🫡

[@eastcoast186]

Happy holidays mofo

[@KoolinwithKrauss]

Yoooo happy holidays brotato 🫡

[@realSamAndrew]

Pritt-ty sly on that wallet promo break. Stay away from used car lot employment my man, the customers won't stand a chance 😂.

[@KoolinwithKrauss]

🤣 they won’t know what hit em brother!!!