It frustrates me so much that people pitted marilynn Monroe and Audrey Hepburn against each other! They were both so iconic, in a perfect world their differences would have been celebrated and not critiqued
@jacobjacquin3 жыл бұрын
@@ts8404 oh my god really? that is so disrespectful
@espeon8713 жыл бұрын
@@ts8404 bruh tf that’s messed up, honestly people should stop pitting women against each other.
@kamilucredic3 жыл бұрын
@@ts8404 Not a surprise. A vile worm of a man, despite his talents. He tried to force himself on Tippi Hedren (actress for "Marnie" and "The Birds") multiple times and threatened her career prospects and mental stability when she resisted.
@charlotteodonnell81753 жыл бұрын
I think it's so interesting Mina highlighted Audrey Hepburn wasn't associated with children because her on-screen personas were childish//sexually infantilised, because on the flip side of that, Marilynn Monroe reportedly also adored children but wasn't associated with them because her on-screen personas were 'over-sexed' bombshells. It could be super interesting for Mina to further discuss how we view old-timey celebrities more as the characters they played and the mythos surrounding their lives than the actual people they were.
@prisle3 жыл бұрын
wow. cause it's totally not enough to be an awesome person, no, you always need to be better than other woman, definitely. (in case not clear: sarcasm uwu)
@nicolaspabloangellegros4303 жыл бұрын
I think it's also important to mention the radically different social backgrounds that Monroe and Hepburn came from. Marilyn came from a very humble American social background while Hepburn was the daughter of a diplomat, was well travelled, educated and had an impeccable British RP accent. It's no wonder that Monroe was condemned to play sexy dumb blondes to satisfy the male gaze while Hepburn was branded as more classy, elegant and refined.
@pantomimegoose3 жыл бұрын
This is such an excellent point!
@officialrolialsita23173 жыл бұрын
I did not even think of the classism issue, good point
@nessazee3 жыл бұрын
This
@kurisucosmo79543 жыл бұрын
The fact that she was the daughter of a diplomat may have something to do with how people saw her as upperclass, but I doubt it. Most people didn't know this fact about her since her father was a Nazi sympathizer and had left her and her mother, and she and her mother were left for starving during the war. She didn't feel comfortable talking about this abandonment till later in her life. Yes, it's true that she spoke many different languages but i wouldn't say this was due to privilege as you seem to want to point out. I assume yes she had gone to better schools than Marilyn, but most of her experiences in different countries was because she was trying to get away from Nazi rule with her mom
@nicolaspabloangellegros4303 жыл бұрын
@@kurisucosmo7954 her relationship with her father is indeed complex and not something that is mentioned a lot tbh but I do maintain that coming from a place of lost privilege shaped her upbringing and her world view. When you are raised by a mother who has had access to culture, who travelled more than 99.99% of the rest of the population, who has evolved in high circles, it's almost inevitable that certain values, certain attitudes will be passed down to you. When you compare with Marilyn, whose father had completely disappeared from the picture and whose mother was unequipped to raise, it's night and day.
@jacquelineosburn54293 жыл бұрын
"Talent. Is what everyone should have been thinking "
@somebody67773 жыл бұрын
I thought superstars that converted to Judaism at one point at their life 😅😅
@yotuba94933 жыл бұрын
My dumb ass legit thought "they have hair"
@vivianabuehrer65833 жыл бұрын
!!!! lol yes!
@somebody67773 жыл бұрын
@UCdgwt5GuRwqs72AQwHGwRQg ?
@girlpowerbutmakeitblack26553 жыл бұрын
I thought they were acting during the same era right? 💀
@daphneblake133 жыл бұрын
I'd definitely like a "Why is ___________ still relevant?" series where you focus on a different, well-known Old Hollywood actress: Marilyn Monroe, Elizabeth Taylor, Katharine Hepburn, Rita Hayworth - just to name a few.
@jodidie3 жыл бұрын
yes!!!
@soulskin.3 жыл бұрын
that would be awesome!
@manifestationsofasort3 жыл бұрын
Yessss
@altreflection40813 жыл бұрын
This 🙌🙌
@teegee74453 жыл бұрын
you are the reason why they are so relevant, girls love gassing up attractive girls with no talent
@miglek96133 жыл бұрын
honestly, I wish Audrey Hepburn was more famous for what she actually did, like her work with UNICEF rather than her aesthetics and women being jealous of other Hollywood stars
@luiysia3 жыл бұрын
? she's famous for being an actress which was her main job for a lot of her life ?
@thatcoffee3 жыл бұрын
@@luiysia technically she was active as a humanitarian for much longer than her acting career (starting with postwar funds and eventually becoming a UNICEF ambassador) and she took like a 10 year break around the seventies to focus on her family. But yes, her films and style were obviously a lot more publicized than her humanitarian work so that’s what she’s most known for today
@miglek96133 жыл бұрын
@@luiysia well yeah but, as the video mentioned, there were a lot of Hollywood stars but there are very little of those who are remembered. Additionally, a lot of people know they her without ever seeing her act anyway so it's not exactly her acting abilities that are generally admired when people talk about her, kind of same as with the other actresses from the Hollywood golden age
@espeon8713 жыл бұрын
Same, honestly I really want people to publicise the private achievements of old hollywood. Audrey was a humanitarian and Marilyn is a very intelligent woman and even had her own production company and she was a staunch supporter of the civil rights movement and her friendship with Ella fitzgerald is one of my favourite stories about old hollywood
@uyu56883 жыл бұрын
yes she's a really great person i dunno why people only focus on the aesthetic and stuff she's more than that
@Venya93 жыл бұрын
It's funny how old the standard of classy or later nerdy girl next door vs. sexy dumb blonde trope is. Society loves to pit women against each other, like you have to be one or the other.
@user-sp5ck4fs1n3 жыл бұрын
@az_koala that was for the sake of a woman in a movie, and the reasons for why they didn’t like each other exceeded past their gender. And that had nothing to do with the fact that they were men. Society putting women against each other is a women’s issue. And seen a lot more in media and in real life.
@nas96473 жыл бұрын
exactly, and it's still used in todays society, notice how marilyn-ish look always associated with a "bad woman who tried to steal your man" and audrey-ish associated with a "unique female lead unlike others that made a man fall in love bc she was the first who treated him differently" ugh that's suck
@Shyflyingsaucer2 жыл бұрын
And the pendulum of who the “it girl” is swings one way and the other
@ervinkatie133 жыл бұрын
I hate how much hate Marilyn Monroe got, I feel like it's how we treated Meghan Fox. Even though neither women did anything wrong, and they were just victims of the men type casting them as sex symbols, it caused other women to hate them. Also side note, Janet sounded so salty lol
@HoneyD1093 жыл бұрын
good ol internalized misogyny
@catyherondale20193 жыл бұрын
So true! It’s so sad that now days we are still taking down girls that are “sex symbols “ :(((
@LBoogie2003 жыл бұрын
@@isabellesnow6008 Ok? That's not why most people didn't like her, and it doesn't justify the misogynistic treatment she received. JFK cheated on his wife, and no one lambasts him...
@sienamoreno37763 жыл бұрын
@@HoneyD109 idk if its internalized misogyny so much as misdirected anger. They should have been pissed at the directors and film industry and all of the patriarchal society that portrayed women as sex objects. Not the actress who is forced into a role. If anything it was their anger at the patriarchy that caused them to lash out at Marilyn. She was the embodiment of a sex object that men wanted all women to be and used her to enforce a role. They were tired of being seen as objects. So with that in mind, I don’t see how that fits internalized misogyny.
@RogueVideoRaven3 жыл бұрын
Ironically, Megan Fox had a Marilyn Monroe tattoo before lasering it off
@Ohh4udumn3 жыл бұрын
Bodies like Marilyn’s are criticized for being too sexual, and bodies like Audrey’s are criticized for looking too boyish and not womanly enough. We can’t win.
@carol03013 жыл бұрын
for real women have no peace
@elmstreet20363 жыл бұрын
Lets just meet every woman in The World and make a pact to get buffed
@pratyushabala91363 жыл бұрын
@@elmstreet2036 lol should we 🤔😏
@raahimas27763 жыл бұрын
what the hell they’re both stunning women!!! who could find anything to criticise? mind blowing.
@elmstreet20363 жыл бұрын
@@raahimas2776 because the media can't breathe without pitting women against eachother, its their oxygen
@sacred-spring3 жыл бұрын
imagine choosing Valentio and Ralph Lauren cause you´re "on a budget"
@hillarywin3 жыл бұрын
Frr my broke ass could never
@laurenbi3 жыл бұрын
it's all relative.. we still, in the developed world, have more money/wealth than most people who have lived on earth have ever seen in their lifetime.
@Dianimations_3 жыл бұрын
@@laurenbi ^
@constantlybored3 жыл бұрын
@@laurenbi that’s 100% true but we also have to pay much more money then those ppl. thus in terms of money gained vs. money needing to be spent id say it’s similar.
@shockingheaven3 жыл бұрын
It pisses me off how much the people remember Audrey as a young woman and rarely mention her humanitarian work
@alexandriageiler6873 жыл бұрын
Same, I didn’t know about how involved she was with unicef until I did a speech on her and I was like woahhhh! She really was a beautiful person inside and out
@myasmith18203 жыл бұрын
Plus she was a volunteer nurse at 16 and fluent in 4-5 different languages
@azalea2962 жыл бұрын
how she survived the nazi invasion and helped others!
@marikkelaszlo3355 Жыл бұрын
I know ppl focus on her fashion sense on her younger years but honestly, her UNICEF humanitarian outfits in her older years deserve recognition too
@shockingheaven Жыл бұрын
@@marikkelaszlo3355 She always looked great, she was gorgeous and remained an icon, but her humanitarian work since her youth goes to show she was truly a beautiful soul
@poobit_pespillo3 жыл бұрын
PLEASEE talk about Marilyn Monroe and how dirty she was done by literally everyone around her, she deserves justice even in death after they let the guy that literally sexually blackmailed her (Hugh Hefner) pay to have his own grave next to her because he was obsessed with her !!!
@anyone11113 жыл бұрын
Ikr. It’s quite tragic and whenever I think of what happened with everything. I get sad 😔
@kseniav5863 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same. I used to believe she was overhyped but no, she was a talented actress ruined by typecasting and awful producers. She deserves recognition as a human being, not a sexual object.
@WhitneySutherland3 жыл бұрын
Dont forget about JFK!!!
@dayoolorunnisola1623 жыл бұрын
YESSS
@aldricmartinez-olson75093 жыл бұрын
Yes please
@cecylemonstorm81173 жыл бұрын
Isn't it just so upsetting how everybody back then used to compare Audrey and Marilyn, 2 talented, smart, amazing women, arbitrarily giving them a personality according to their body type? It's sick how a petite body is associated to modesty and an hourglass figure is perceived as vulgar. I mean as for clothes, they both wore what was on trend and fitted them best, which is amazing! Also they were both in an industry dominated by men and had to face it. It's terrible that one wasn't given the support of other women.
@mimi-mg7ko3 жыл бұрын
exactly!!
@jsvilhena2 жыл бұрын
Yes, the fact that they both could act the same,have the same “scandals”, and dress alike, and still audrey would be the classy one but not sexy bc the guy’s wouldn’t want someone as boyish (at least outside pf Hollywood) and Marilyn would be seen as the sexy blonde that’s only there to be eye candy and can only be appreciated not even for her looks as a whole but as a sexy object that takes into account only her body is sickening. Even more that it still happens today, it doesn’t matter how you act, the way you look will always impact the way society see’s you as a women more, and if your personality does not “match” that expectation you’re in for a LOT of stress.
@rainnchen96322 жыл бұрын
It's called SKINNY not petite. She ain't short.
@jsvilhena2 жыл бұрын
@@rainnchen9632 but can’t petite also be referring to a small bone structure/frame, which she had ?? There’s plenty of skinny people who are not also petite bc they’re bone structure is average-sized
@CamziVonZombie3 жыл бұрын
I think a lot of the distaste older generations had for Marilyn might be from lack of knowledge, at the time, of who she really was. I imagine if you only knew Marilyn’s films and what tabloids said about her (and add in some of the time sexism), it’s easy to see how people would think of her as “tarty”. The same thing happened to Britney Spears. People love the sexualized villain.
@juliapalos20773 жыл бұрын
I feel so bad for Britney as well. She was a great singer (you can watch one of her first performances as a young girl in KZbin). And she was forced to sing with those stupid se*ual gasps and groaning sounds.
@selina55983 жыл бұрын
that first line says it perfectly
@maheenm.k10153 жыл бұрын
It's not the way she was spoken about. It was the fact that she presented herself more sexually than what was socially acceptable at the time. Marilyn went against what was considered classy at the time, and did everything that was considered indecent at the time. Even in 2020, a woman that portrays herself more sexual ly than what is considered socially acceptable is villainized. Think about how the Kardashians are hated for being "slutty" and "indecent" by today's standards.
@Cecilia132413 жыл бұрын
I feel like really any woman, famous or not, could experience something like this, even today. Like my mom has a witty, funny personality and women would say really mean things to her or about her without really knowing her spirit. Or I saw as a child how relatives treated her, we have now completely cut ties with extended family... I think it is because she's very intelligent, funny, and beautiful, and most importantly a GOOD person. Some people just can't handle that and will villanize. My mom experienced a lot of abuse too and they told her they didn't believe her or say that she was lying. Women sexualized for simply existing, beaten down for having a strong personality ... Or to my dad, other men would say things like "you're no Kennedy" because he is very personable and outgoing and married to my mom lol. And it's a cringey comment because he wasn't trying to be anything but himself.
@aubreyfasano98143 жыл бұрын
I agree with you
@em-jd4do3 жыл бұрын
brigitte bardot is the literal embodiment of that meme, "i can excuse racism but i draw the line at animal cruelty".
@jzz63423 жыл бұрын
In a way I "understand" Brigitte's xenophibia, however I do not justify it. Why, because she was the greatest female icon of France in the 60s, and she was part of an entire cultural, artistic, stylistic movement, etc., quite European, and that today we see a lot with fascination. Therefore, the fact that Eropa is now "Islamizing", it is "understandable" that she feels rejection towards it.
@ameliam19573 жыл бұрын
@@jzz6342 Agreed to an extent. She revolts mainly against the way that animals are traditionally treated in Muslim countries, and also the modesty and sexual purity preached by Islam which can be seen as regressive and unfair - aka the opposite of what Bardot was known for. Idk. I don't agree with her and I do think she goes about it the wrong way, but what am I gonna do? Tell an 80-something-year-old woman that she's old fashioned?
@jzz63423 жыл бұрын
@@ameliam1957 exactly, one must take into account their life context and their age, among other variables, is not a simple thing : )
@LoveAndSnapple3 жыл бұрын
I just googled her and you’re absolutely right, lol
@nostradamus11622 жыл бұрын
@@ameliam1957 i mean there are 80 year olds that dont get convicted for hate speech but ok...
@dollyeyeball7773 жыл бұрын
I love Audrey Hepburn but does it bother anyone else how we always seem to always infantalize and desexualize flat/petite women? They way they often described her as 'adolescent' and 'androgynous' makes it feel like smaller women can't be sexy.
@madisonj51363 жыл бұрын
Yep, there’s no one ideal of a women body and the ideal changes all the time. All women bodies are feminine. Have it ever occurred to men that women have different body shapes
@undercoversquid13043 жыл бұрын
In the media in the US, Jane Birkin is (unfortunately) better known for inspiring a bag, instead of being known for "Je T'aime, Moi Non Plus" and for how good she looks while braless in a sheer t-shirt.
@dollyeyeball7773 жыл бұрын
@Isabella’s Art yeah fr nobody can win :/
@elenik8453 жыл бұрын
noone can win really, models (who are usually small chested or flat chested) are seen as sexy but women who are flat are not.
@dollyeyeball7773 жыл бұрын
@@elenik845 honestly I don’t think people see models as sexy I think they’re just seen as good for displaying clothes. Like idk whenever someone tells me I could model all I hear is ‘you’d make a good clothing hanger for the public’. Like, we still get desexualized in everyday life.
@ColonelGreen3 жыл бұрын
Hepburn was one of the first people outside of the Frank family to read Anne Frank's diary, because in the postwar Netherlands she lived in an apartment building with one of the publishing house employees and he leant her the manuscript, thinking she'd connect to it. Which she did, and it became a bit of a lifelong point of identification for her; Otto Frank actually asked her to play Anne in the 1959 film version, which she declined both because she felt she was too old and because of the psychological trauma of the war years that she didn't want to relive.
@johnpjones1823 жыл бұрын
Millie Perkins was miscast. I like her in the Jack Nicholson Western "The Shooting", tho.
@thesunwillcomeout2morrow2 жыл бұрын
very interesting nice
@flamboyante._3 жыл бұрын
The drama with Marilyn and how she was percibe as "The enemy" reminds me to the drama with Megan Fox. Two talented womans hated because of the men view they were put into
@Chomikmk3 жыл бұрын
I see Meghan is being mentioned in this comment section several times. Is there something that happened recently? I haven't heard anything..
@Chomikmk3 жыл бұрын
@@AirQuotes thanks!
@teegee74453 жыл бұрын
neither of them are talented and they both got famous because of the way they look, if they didn't like it then they should have stopped being in films
@rosasunsprite89013 жыл бұрын
@@teegee7445 They just wanted to act. Not be treated poorly.
@HkFinn833 жыл бұрын
Also neither had any acting ability at all
@akikom13313 жыл бұрын
I was obsessed with Audrey when I was a teen, for all the reasons you listed. She had all the charm and glamor without the heavy male gaze. And as a young Asian girl, I liked seeing slender dark haired, dark eyed women being elevated and not exoticized or hyper-sexualized. And even though she wasn't a POC role model, her humanitarian legacy in a way "made up" for that (at least in my 16yo head). She showed me how to gracefully carry oneself professionally and personally with kindness. And I aspire to that even to this day.
@bmwjourdandunngoddess6024 Жыл бұрын
I hope you’ve grown up to know that humanitarian work does not make up for being Black, Asian, Native. 💀
@marialuisasvabvalerio71773 жыл бұрын
As an abnormally skinny girl, Audrey gave me my self esteem back when I was younger. As I grew and learned how sweet she was and the things she did with UNICEF, it impacted me so much. I believe that my decision to become a teacher is related to that. Thanks, Mina. It made me remember why I admire her so.
@SoWhosGae3 жыл бұрын
She actually starved during the war and she was trained in classical ballet. That impacted her body.
@marialuisasvabvalerio71773 жыл бұрын
@@SoWhosGae I know, poor Audrey, I was not trying yo romanticize it, I have an endocrine condition that make putting up any weight quite hard. Seeing her, gorgeous and almost as skinny as me made me feel more human.
@SoWhosGae3 жыл бұрын
@@marialuisasvabvalerio7177 I didn't mean to make you feel guilty either. I don't have a condition, but I felt represented by her too because I can't never put weight either. Always been super skinny and for a while I was risking an ED because of trying to gain weight. My body suffered from that, not to mention psychologically (ppl assuming only pedos could be attracted to a body like mine) but now I'm at peace with myself and my body and I hope the same for you.
@jakeblinkk34533 жыл бұрын
Wait what... I thought u were like 16 from ur picture
@evelynbaron83573 жыл бұрын
@@SoWhosGae I loved her ironically because my mother shared exactly the same experiences during the war, and died the same year, same age, also of cancer. So I never thought of her iconic image as much as a silver ghost of someone I deeply loved.
@augustevarkalaite3213 жыл бұрын
While growing up in the 00’s and seeing all these skinny models that I didn’t look like, Marilyn Monroe was the icon that helped me to love my body and think that it’s beautiful. So for me Audrey was just another beautiful, marvelous, unattainable ideal.
@Cccc123c333 жыл бұрын
Right? Especially in Lithuania where skinny was such huge thing. And god forbid you were short and curvy.
@ritajasaha25503 жыл бұрын
@@JamesGallagher90 agreed.
@gvtterslag3 жыл бұрын
I see Audrey the same way even now. For some reason I favour thinner figures even though the current "trend" is to be curvaceous. The fact that I'm very short and thin but still somewhat curvy is the reason I can identify with Marilyn more in that sense. Anyway I went on a tangent, but basically everyone finds different things they can relate to.
@theitgirl44712 жыл бұрын
Same here. In the majority of countries the beauty standard is very skinny and tall, so a woman like Audrey is basically a goddness. And Marilyn Monroe is still the most beautiful American actress for me
@ilovemikakagehira2 жыл бұрын
in my country she is still the ideal... so i understand :(
@chasewheeler65033 жыл бұрын
Breakfast at Mina's
@EternalGoddess3 жыл бұрын
I wish people would stop pitting Marilyn and Audrey against each other, especially for their looks. Sure, they were both fashion icons in their own ways, but both also did incredible philanthropic work and we should highlight that more! Great video as always lovely x
@ahyan66813 жыл бұрын
Exactly they are compared so many times, they literally look different
@andrasparag3023 жыл бұрын
The weird thing is that how people say that Holly from Breakfast at Tiffany's is how much of an Audrey character when the role was actually written for Marilyn particiularly.
@jr15213 жыл бұрын
Yes. I read the short story by Truman Capote that the film is based on. Holly Golightly is a call girl. Capote thought Marilyn would be perfect for the part. He definitely envisioned a more sexualized curvy woman when he created the character. But I think Audrey's wholesome image helped get the story past the censors. A lot of people who love that film don't notice that it's about a friendship between 2 people who support themselves by being sex workers.
@andreasadventuresabroad56993 жыл бұрын
And Paul was actually gay in the book! Holly was a very liberated woman and both characters had strong platonic feelings for each other instead of romantic
@ginameyer91153 жыл бұрын
Sadly I haven’t read the book yet, but yes, this is what I keep thinking about: how was she, such an innocent seeming young woman, to portrait a call girl? 😂 But I still love the movie, maybe it’s not accurate to the book, but her character, I believe, gives the story an interesting spin as well: she seems desperate, doesn’t really have anybody who loves her except for her brother and only tries saving up in order to build a life for the two of them. To be honest the first time watching the movie I kind of disliked Paul though , as he got paid for sleeping with this woman, but then realised that Holly wasn’t much different. On the other hand, when again looking at how innocent and “unexperienced” Audrey’s characters seem, I was shocked almost when for the first time I watched charade where Regina was trying so hard to get Peter’s attention 😂 but anyway, I simply love all her movies and that you can tell that all the girls she portraits are different to each other, but still have her spirit in a way. She just makes my day whenever I watch a film she stares in (and actually my wallpaper (in my room, not on my phone) has her silhouettes and face printed all over it, that’s how far the adoration goes 😂)
@ideasdivertidas1643 жыл бұрын
@@andreasadventuresabroad5699 wait , paul is gay in the book ? :0 in that case holly nd him in the book are only friends?
@jr15213 жыл бұрын
@@ideasdivertidas164 Yes. Paul is gay in the book. Paul is sort of a stand-in for the writer, Truman Capote. There is no doubt that Capote was gay. Capote knew women like this when he was young. Find the short story (or novella) and read it. Capote could tell a good story.
@nikoletta38553 жыл бұрын
I do understand the whole "Marilyn was made for men" tbh, even if I don't agree with it. It makes sense that watching a woman be so sexualized and objectified on screen (something even marilyn herself didn't like, she was only given sexual roles even tho she had the range for other stuff too) would make the female viewers uncomfortable, even if they used internalized sexism to express it. Audrey was less male gaze-y and more like a girl (and thus more relatable to teenage girls than male cinema goers)
@SoWhosGae3 жыл бұрын
@kkaradin No she wouldn't.
@katherinemorelle71153 жыл бұрын
@kkaradin no, definitely not. A size 14 then is the same as a pattern size 14 now... which is closer to an American 4 or 6. She was curvy, but very slim. People see “size 14” and think it’s equivalent to a 14 now, but that’s very much not the case.
@nikoletta38553 жыл бұрын
@kkaradin as others have pointed out she wasn't plus size just soft looking. Also a lot of her pictures people use when saying she is plus size are from when she was pregnant
@doelette74003 жыл бұрын
That is so weird though, I just think Marilyn and Brigitte were beautifully, unapologetically female - they also had that femme fatale element, being able to influence all the men around them, there was definitely a lot of power in that - I'm 18 now and I've been admiring them since I was a little girl, I was mesmerised by that powerful, impactful side of them, they were only really 'objectified' if you couldn't see anything past their physique, which admittedly was probably a case for the male viewers, but female viewers don't have to be uncomfortable seeing more risque female characters, they can give them the courage to be themselves and recognise the power at the core of femininity
@nikoletta38553 жыл бұрын
@@doelette7400 yes but where you are wrong is that those characters where both written and directed by men. They weren't written to be empowering to women or so women could relate to them but so men could find them appealing. They were also objectified by the men in their lives, Marilyn especially. She was missable with how the public saw her as nothing but a sex symbol and not as a real person. She never got the chance to play the roles other less "sexy" actresses did despite her having the talent and range, she was just cast to be pretty and she had to run away from the media 24/7. I love her style and her as a person (she was a big supporter on civil rights for example) but her life is still more tragic than sexy and fun
@chummy4793 жыл бұрын
It’s so weird to think that Audrey gained her popularity because she was more relatable than Marilyn but the majority of girls I’ve met today feel like they relate a lot to Marilyn.
@apenstaartjeanna38893 жыл бұрын
Why do they feel like Marilyn if I may ask?
@madisonj51363 жыл бұрын
I don’t think a lot of girls relate to Marilyn but feel more bad for than relate to her. She’s not really relatable
@silentslayer1673 жыл бұрын
I think it’s the whole concept of “doing yourself up” and transforming from a normal looking woman to a glamorous beauty. I think that’s what makes her more relatable. If you look at pictures of Marilyn without makeup, while pretty, she looks completely different without all the makeup, clothes and hair. At the end of the day she was quite average compared to other movies stars at the time like Grace Kelly, Elizabeth Taylor, etc. But her style, the way she dressed up and not to mention, her personal life story made her all the more memorable and relatable.
@dreamsicle31133 жыл бұрын
@apenstaartje anna You didn't ask me, but I wanted to chime in because I'm getting more attached to Marilyn the older I get (I just turned 24). The more I learn about Marilyn, I see that there were literally obstacles placed in her way every turn she took, and she was expected to take it all on the chin because heaven forbid a woman complains. She was expected to be beautiful and sensual, but in fulfilling those qualities she was denied agency and personhood and was reduced to an object of fantasy by the men and women around her. Everything she became was from taking criticism and slander from others since she was a child and working herself to the bone to get rid of her "flaws." (She has a singing coach she loved who insulted her naturally high pitched voice, saying she sounded dumb. That's why she began to sang in that lower voice.) She was beautiful and should've had it all, but being desired didn't equal being loved and it seemed like no man could dig deep to find and love Norma Jean. Admiration didn't equal genuine human compassion and empathy and she was genuinely miserable. I'm definitely no Marilyn Monroe, but I think I can understand the isolation in being a woman, and maintaining an image forced on me. ((Hope this didn't sound like a rant! I have a lot of feelings lol))
@cloud9_263 жыл бұрын
@@dreamsicle3113 This is honestly so true, I'm 23 going on 24 and the older I get, the more I understand and relate to her. She was a woman who just wanted to be a woman. But when I was younger I actually looked up to her bc she wasn't very skinny, and at that time growing up, heroin chic was trendy and I developed an eating disorder bc of it. Marilyn just had a more full and realistic body type for me personally, but to each their own. This is why we shouldn't pit women against each other, bc we ARE NOT each other's competition. But yeah at the time, her weight made me feel better about mine.
@Thekawaiiasian101vid3 жыл бұрын
You mentioned in your IG story that you wearing a turtleneck was gonna be relevant to the topic of the video and I knew it was gonna have something to do with Audrey Hepburn
@gremlita3 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad because so many people thought I was doing Steve Jobs 💀
@ellagrace43613 жыл бұрын
@@gremlita omfg I just snorted like a mf pigggg
@theaxx12143 жыл бұрын
@@ellagrace4361 same, the noice I made was UNNATURAL
@heathersaxton81183 жыл бұрын
@@gremlita HAHA OMG sometimes you gotta love people
@aracellilo23413 жыл бұрын
@@gremlita oh hell 💀💀💀
@NeshaCora3 жыл бұрын
I remember as a young girl being absolutely infatuated with Marilyn Monroe and stumbling across an article that was along the lines of 'Marilyn vs. Audrey', not dissimilar to the article you cited. I read it found that legions of Audrey Hepburn fans had commented about how they HATED MM, couldn't stand how 'slutty' she was, that Audrey was far 'classier' and an all-round better person. I couldn't believe what I was reading - I'd never considered that there needed to be such a drastic rivalry, between two beautiful, talented women. It left me with a sour taste in my mouth towards Audrey Hepburn for years after as it regrettably made me view her as the 'not like other girls' icon... almost a decade on and I love and admire both, but I'll never forget the anger in those comments towards a woman who was really done dirty by the Hollywood machine, and was just as wonderful and talented.
@teegee74453 жыл бұрын
Just as talented? Lol
@NeshaCora3 жыл бұрын
@@teegee7445 you've commented several times on this video about how neither of these women were talented and only got where they were because of their looks. you sound very bitter and it's very embarrassing that you'd waste your time being so negative on the internet. i hope you find peace!
@teegee74453 жыл бұрын
@@NeshaCora I hope you understand that by lifting up these untalented women because of their looks you are perpetuating a value system within society that means looks are more important than anything else. I'm bothered because you're the same girls that are always complaining about how society forces you to look good. Stop hyping up untalented hot people and pretty soon to be a famous girl you'll need talent rather than looks.
@NeshaCora3 жыл бұрын
@@teegee7445 for the record I’ve never once complained about how ‘society forces me to look good’; I do look good and I know it. you raise an interesting point though and I don’t entirely disagree with you - beautiful people shouldn’t become famous for being beautiful and I do think we see that all too often in society. the part we will have to agree to disagree on is whether or not MM and Hepburn were talented or not, but aside from that, I don’t think your point is invalid at all, so thank you for taking the time to explain it a little better!
@teegee74453 жыл бұрын
@@NeshaCora The point is they weren't talented, so girls that obsess over appearance nowadays only know them and maybe James Dean or Marlon Brando opposed to Gregory Peck or Henry Fonda, both superior actors (with maybe the exception of Brando, he could act and was good looking). Girls that aren't really interested in film watch these 60/70 year old films purely based on how attractive the actresses in them are. This has never been more prevalent, take any female actor, celebrity nowadays, they're all hot and not that good at their craft. Whereas actually talented unattractive people like Frances McDormand go unnoticed. Boys are not like this at all, we make people famous for how good they are at what they do, like Kendrick Lamar, Kanye West, Kobe Bryant, all pretty average looking dudes that are extremely talented, girls don't like them for the most part. I'm not talking you particularly, there's just an entire generation of girls talking about body dysmorphia, societal standards of beauty and misogyny about how they need to look good but these expectations are put on them by themselves because they make beauty the most important thing in life, right from when a baby's born all they can say is how attractive or cute it is, it's weird and needs to stop. The fact you've seen hepburn's films and not Welles' is just proof of this. It's what holds women back, why do very few women have critical acclaim in any field? Because there's no market for it.
@jdizzle7083 жыл бұрын
Part of what makes her so relevant today is the simplicity and timelessness of her style, coupled with her incredible charm. People seem to fall in love with her instantly just by watching her on screen. I'd love to see you do Katherine Hepburn next!
@aracellilo23413 жыл бұрын
I completely agree, the way she made simplicity so beautiful was truly incredible
@isaacgray29092 жыл бұрын
Agree. In fact, even without knowing about classic Hollywood you can just look at her and see why she can be considered a classic beauty
@tamerebel3 жыл бұрын
Just a note: she was very privileged growing up, her mother was a baroness, however her father was a Nazi sympathiser and left them early which traumatised Audrey. Paired with her strict ballet education which gave her a graceful demeanour, it explains her upper class aura. A lot of people are also not aware that she spoke several languages fluently (Dutch, English, Italian, Spanish, French) which is very impressive. She had life experience, knowledge and grace that were absent from the usual glamourous Hollywood actresses.
@tess74763 жыл бұрын
while she was a young teenager in the Netherlands, she worked for the Dutch Resistance and put on small ballet shows to raise money against the Nazis! she also worked as a volunteer nurse until she was 16
@samiam20883 жыл бұрын
@@tess7476 Yup, Audrey helped fund the Resistance against the Nazi's, which makes her a major badass.
@jankaaishakovacs77143 жыл бұрын
Also she starved a lot during the war so she practiced and helped with empty stomach in the end of the war she became anaemic
@Tee-xt1cv3 жыл бұрын
@@jankaaishakovacs7714 On top of that, she has actually said that she didn't like how that malnourishment affected the look of her body
@lisin44443 жыл бұрын
I'm not 100% sure but wasn't she very very underweight growing up since because of the war they didn't have much food?? I wouldn't call that privilege. (tbh i just read that somewhere idk if it's true or not)
@jennyingersoll21543 жыл бұрын
Cultural contexts aside--Audrey both onscreen and off has a charisma, beauty, and sincerity that combine in an unbearably endearing way. Like other megastars (Prince, Meryl Streep, and Freddie Mercury are quick examples), she possesses an indefinable quality that makes you desperate to watch her. It's as if we sense that there is no one else like her, and there never will be--which makes watching her "live" onscreen all the more transporting. I admire Marilyn Monroe, and I also think it's a fact that she doesn't have the same kind of charm.
@ericlind65813 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. Some people just have that unique sublime attraction. Audrey was both accessible, relatable and fun yet incredibly feminine, elegant and worldly. There has never been anyone like this even today.
@maddiej21653 жыл бұрын
Audrey Hepburn is such an icon. She’s a beautiful and sophisticated woman.
@ihatemathreadaboutsectionb49073 жыл бұрын
Ayyy Izone stan taste
@maddiej21653 жыл бұрын
@@ihatemathreadaboutsectionb4907 thank you, thank you
@ihatemathreadaboutsectionb49073 жыл бұрын
@@maddiej2165 ofc :)
@lilibetp3 жыл бұрын
And classy.
@maya_jones34113 жыл бұрын
She was incredibly beautiful, The shape of her eyes was uniquely stunning
@lavendargooms20563 жыл бұрын
This was so interesting to me because I came to Audrey much later. Sophia Loren and Elizabeth Taylor were my introductions to old holywood, but I was so interested in them for the same reasons that you talk about people gravitating towards Audrey (other than her amazing talents as an actor, Wait Until Dark was a triumph) - they represented a type of beauty that was different from what was around that I felt closer to. Hitting puberty hard and fast in the mid 2000's and simultaneously feeling really gross about how grown men would sexualize me (being a DD at 10 is NOT fun) and locked out of fashion/beauty of the time (constantly felt frumpy in the very straight cuts of shirts, low rise jeans made me feel like my butt was about to pop out at any minute). So the fact that these ladies were curvy and beautiful and (to me at the time) in charge of themselves was amazing. Such a great exercise to see how others felt the same way that I did, but a bit in reverse. "Accessible" is really all in your perspective huh?
@bunnykatsoracle32753 жыл бұрын
I completely understand!!! I had a DD by age 11. Kate Moss was our queen at the time. And I love her, but I didn't look.like her, and people called me a "slut" for it, as if just existing in my pubescent body was.some.sort of scandal. Its hard to live in a world that hates women 😔
@rachelk48053 жыл бұрын
@@bunnykatsoracle3275 Ugh. "Nothing tastes as good as skinny feels." 🙄 Um. ok. Like, shut up and try cake ffs, Kate.
@AlauraJones3 жыл бұрын
The script for Breakfast at Tiffany’s was written to star Marylin Monroe, and the director said Audrey was a terrible recast that ruined the film. But little did he know she made the role incredibly relatable for decades of women.
@emmakayisnotok73223 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I feel like the the perception we have of Audreys persona is something that influenced the Manic Pixie Dream Girl That's not to say that she herself was any sort of predecessor to Manic Pixies... but like the quirky, youthful, care free even tho shes classy, "nOt LiKe ThE oThEr GiRLs [of hollywood]" image that the media made of her most definitely was
@aracellilo23413 жыл бұрын
definitely
@Sailorofskies3 жыл бұрын
I think the main difference is she's usually the main character and not used for the male characters development and had some depth at least more than a manic pixie dream girl gets. But I do think she has very similar vibes.
@emmakayisnotok73223 жыл бұрын
@@Sailorofskies yeah, for sure That's why I said she was like an in fluance on and a predecessor to And its not even so much that he characters were either It's like just the way the media painted her... ya know? Like her characters that she played definitely werent manic mixies... but the image that the media painted of her, which was influenced by her characters, definitely was closer to a manic pixie
@Sailorofskies3 жыл бұрын
@@emmakayisnotok7322 yeah I completely agree she's been painted in a way that's really similar to a manic pixie! I wonder if it could've inspired the trope.
@klassickasey3 жыл бұрын
her kookiness was a big part of her persona i think, a real proto-Zooey Deschanel come-do-something-silly-in-public-with-me-won't-you routine everyone should see her "appearance" on Sky Art's Psychobitches lol: "DABLe DENNIs"
@sabrinacheck37143 жыл бұрын
"Why is Audrey Hepburn still relevant?" to answer that question: Audrey Hepburn made a movement and that is why she is still a role model to many because of the impact it made through history. Both Marilyn and Audrey are iconic! :)
@madison36593 жыл бұрын
yeah her and marilyn both took the world by storm
@jacquelynkiefner33013 жыл бұрын
I’m a simple woman. I see Mina post a new video, I watch immediately.
@nellikorpi79373 жыл бұрын
Breakfast at Tiffany’s is such a nostalgic thing in my life. Every time me and my childhood best friend had a sleepover at her house, we’d start the next morning in their living room, eating our breakfast and watching Breakfast at Tiffany’s on her old tv. Every time. Just seeing Audrey’s face brings up such fond memories.
@randomaccount7423 жыл бұрын
Audrey got me into fashion. I’m a fashion design major now. She is still my biggest muse after the past 7 years
@AquaMarino3 жыл бұрын
👋🏽👍🏼
@dnicuilic15323 жыл бұрын
Yesssss calling out that internalised misogyny in the hatred of Marilyn Monroe or Jane Mansfield!! I adore Audrey but the idea that she’s more “classy” and a “better role model” maybe because she didn’t wear a lot of makeup or have a curvy shape is soo misogynistic. I never even thought about this!! SUCH a great video!❤️
@balthasardenner52163 жыл бұрын
Audrey had a 14 inch difference between her waist and hips, how on earth is that not curvy? How many women do you know that have that big if a difference between waist and hips? Marilyn Monroe didn't. Curvy is about SHAPE not size or weight. Very thin women can be super curvy and bigger women can be not curvy.
@landmindssoul4636 Жыл бұрын
@balthasardenner5216 how does that work?
@hanobby693 жыл бұрын
I finally know who is Audrey Hepburn, thank you! I'd love to hear about Marilyn Monroe next!
@jordansimen78523 жыл бұрын
💀
@anita_loves_apples7653 жыл бұрын
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@mooble13253 жыл бұрын
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@ellagrace43613 жыл бұрын
Wait-
@manifestationsofasort3 жыл бұрын
Or one about Elizabeth Taylor
@thewannabegamer93 жыл бұрын
Audrey Hepburn’s work in Roman Holiday was just breathtaking. There are no words to describe how brilliant and impactful that last scene was. If you’re reading this and don’t know what I’m talking about, watch Roman Holiday right now. She exhibited some the best acting I have ever seen in my entire life.
@sapphic.flower3 жыл бұрын
I know this is like way back then but it still rubs me the wrong way to know people put Hepburn on a pedestal as a modestly dressed, natural-faced, non-curvacious woman in a way that says "all women should be like this and not some busty, caked bimbo". Like yeah, she was definitely great to see on screens when a lot of women in film have been objectified and hollywood pursued the same sexualized body type, but damn don't blame the women. Also, Hepburn is like super attractive even without a lot of makeup and it kind of feels like men's unrealistic expectation for a "modest" girl who's also effortlessly beautiful and thin...
@nannybells3 жыл бұрын
audrey's talent was so huge. she is wonderful in wait until dark. marilyn too deserved so much more, her comedic timing was impecable, and her talent for drama too (love her in don't bother to knock!!)
@currielee3 жыл бұрын
one could perhaps say that audrey hepburn was the original 'not like other girls'
@HoneyD1093 жыл бұрын
same bangs and everything
@TheMoonunit963 жыл бұрын
I mean, I agree in the technical sense. But it's also a bit insulting to her memory to put her in that category - since Audrey herself never positioned herself in opposition to other women and was generally a very lovely person throughout her life. Blame the media for pitting women against each other.
@andreaelizeth3 жыл бұрын
The media marketed her as that. In a time of curvy bodies and long blonde wavy hair, she was indeed different but I don't think that even for a second she took pride in not being like them. Audrey was so humble she didn't even think she was that much of a beauty to begin with. Don't do my girl dirty like that.
@currielee3 жыл бұрын
i don't think Audrey actually viewed herself that way, but based on Mina's analysis, a lot of her fans had that mentality because of the media. it was a simple joke I was trying to convey in the most succinct way
@beereelee3 жыл бұрын
@@currielee Haha I understood what you meant
@strawberrycow43673 жыл бұрын
i remember trying to watch breakfast at tiffany's with my mom and in the first 5 minutes this white guy was pretending to be asian and speaking in an insanely racist way, we both stopped right away. i could never get into Audrey hepburn after that lmao
@appleworldinc.89373 жыл бұрын
Yep. It's blatant yellow face and it's disgusting
@sara-mm9pb3 жыл бұрын
Okay but that’s not her fault...?
@strawberrycow43673 жыл бұрын
@@sara-mm9pb i know, i have nothing against her. she was beautiful, talented, smart, and used her influence for good things. i just think it's the reverence and romanticization that's held for older movies with such disgustingly racist and sexist themes that doesn't sit right with me.
@myettechase3 жыл бұрын
Oof, yeah. For my film class we watched Breakfast at Tiffany’s and my professor (old white dude) said “there’s going to be some racist stuff, just ignore it and remember it was normal back then, so try not to get offended!” So I wrote my end of term paper about the harmful effects of blackface and yellowface in cinema.
@kamilucredic3 жыл бұрын
@@myettechase get his ass!!!
@audikittycat3 жыл бұрын
My name is Audrey, and my sister's name is Holly. My parents must've liked breakfast at tiffany's, lol
@graceraimo7773 жыл бұрын
I am really sick of Marilyn slander.
@aracellilo23413 жыл бұрын
same
@madisonj51363 жыл бұрын
What Marilyn slander???
@graceraimo7773 жыл бұрын
@@madisonj5136 did you watch the video?
@madisonj51363 жыл бұрын
@@graceraimo777 I did but it wasn’t really slander
@graceraimo7773 жыл бұрын
@@madisonj5136 I’ve been reading some comments and I’ve seen you talk about how Marilyn was mistreated so I think your confused? I’m just reiterating what was said in the video, not saying Mina was slandering Marilyn. She clearly said she was done with the slander Marilyn gets.
@ShortCakesMakeup3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been obsessed with Audrey Hepburn since I was 5 years old when my Grandma was babysitting me and we binge watched Sabrina, Roman Holiday, Breakfast at Tiffany’s, My Fair Lady, etc. I loved her look and her aesthetic but my Grandma also told me about everything she did during the war and how she helped young people with UNICEF. Ever since I’ve wanted to be like Audrey Hepburn not because of her looks or her talent but because of everything she did after she left Hollywood and before she got there. Have I been influenced by her style wise? Yes! Of course! But I’ve also been influenced by her when it comes to charity work. I’ve volunteered a lot and I’ve loved it. She is an iconic and always will be
@Khensani3 жыл бұрын
i always think it’s funny that most people today would consider marilyn as a symbol for plus size or thicker bodies when she was in real life probably as tiny as audrey, she just had those great proportions. great video as usual and i did not expect audrey when you posted the turtleneck on your instagram 😅
@HD-fd7tn3 жыл бұрын
Especially considering she was speculated to be around 118-140 pounds within her adult life. She was curvy but I found it odd that people are considering her “plus size”.
@pantomimegoose3 жыл бұрын
Ayo, for a curvy lady, the Marilyn Monroe look is much more attainable than the Audrey Hepburn look. Just a reminder that there are a lot of different natural body types. The same reaction happened in the early 2000s when the beauty ideal shifts from Kate Moss/Paris Hilton to JLO/Kim Kardashian, many women felt great relief that having a fat ass wasn't derided. In general, it's always best if there are visible representations of all kinds of bodies in media. Bodies of all kinds should be considered beautiful, powerful, and capable and not pitted against each other.
@mcd083 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the ol' "do these jeans make my butt look big?" joke in sitcoms and how back then the appropriate answer for the husband/friend/whatever to say was "uh of course not!". Oh how the tables have turned lol
@balthasardenner52163 жыл бұрын
Audrey was actually curvier than Marilyn. Audrey had a 14 inch difference between her waist and hips, Marilyn had a 12 inch difference. Audrey rarely wore clothes that showed it off however. It's important to remember curvy means shape NOT size.
@HereIStandbyU3 жыл бұрын
It's all because of the media. Marylin's body type was "THE STANDARD" for an entire era, then it was Audrey, then remember the 90's supermodel era? with Naomi Campbell, Cindy Crawford, that were super tall and curvy. Then Kate Moss type of body was "the trend". It's all about the media and what they sell. The problem is when you're younger and let yourself be intimidated and affected by that sh*t. I was half of my teenage years trying to diet, comparing myself (negatively) with my classmates, who were petite and skinny. I was 10cm taller, of course, I would weigh more than them! But that was not on my mind at that time, my friends looked like the girls on the tv and magazines and I didn't. Now I'm 34 and I'm happy with myself, but a lot of young girls (and boys) are being manipulated by the media everyday.
@tylenolover3 жыл бұрын
Yess!!
@aisham7443 жыл бұрын
Marilyns look is more attainable than Audrey 🤣🤣 don’t make me laugh
@anita_loves_apples7653 жыл бұрын
My hero Miss Audrey Hepburn, oh how much I love her so much I wish I could've meet her she was not only pretty she was also a good personality woman and well mannered. I love her so much with my heart
@owenlee31033 жыл бұрын
She’s my role model in everything I love her sm
@anita_loves_apples7653 жыл бұрын
@@owenlee3103 same
@emmamon36473 жыл бұрын
When I watched Funny Face for the first time I found hilarious that everyone in the movie kept saying Audrey's character looks "funny" or "ugly" (before her makeover)... while she just looks like Audrey Hepburn... gorgeous as usual. I guess it is understandable considering what you said in the first part of your video, because Audrey had a bit of a tomboy look compared to other models... But still, it doesn't make much sense, ahah
@heyummrandommuch3 жыл бұрын
"I can use that voice for the good of children, what could be better" made me tear up. That is a damn good quote.
@jacquelineosburn54293 жыл бұрын
The fear I felt going into this because Audrey is my absolute favorite actress but you actually said everything I would have said (especially about Brigitte Bardot 😒)
@ShyRonnie133 жыл бұрын
Yes guys enjoy the movies but never forget Bardot is a racist and Deneuve signed a petition against the Me too mouvement.
@shteve1193 жыл бұрын
Wait... since you briefly mentioned Twiggy, I think it would be really cool to make a video about her and her influence over 1970's makeup trends, as well as her influence of british fashion and iconography in the U.S.
@Lg.sidequest3 жыл бұрын
Sabrina is my favorite Audrey film and I feel like I've been super influenced by her style in that particular role. It's so timeless
@katej71353 жыл бұрын
I think it's great that a desire to be like Audrey has spanned the generations. I'm 35 now, but at 13 i discovered Audrey. I immediately went out and bought boat neck tees, ballet flats, and pedal pushers.
@estherricci74283 жыл бұрын
My sister was named Sabrina after her role in the movie Sabrina! My mother and our family has always doted on Audrey Hepburn ❤️
@georgelopez337 Жыл бұрын
I recently watched a documentary about Hepburn on streaming. She was thin because she was a dancer/ballet and starved during the Nazi occupation of The Netherlands. She also helped a litlle with the resistance. Her harsh childhood prepared her to be a good actress as she had lots of experiences & emotions to draw from.
@mqk16973 жыл бұрын
Another great dissection! Mina I love the intelligent conversations on fashion you bring to the table
@justaneyedeastan41273 жыл бұрын
“You like D&D, Audrey Hepburn, and Fangoria, you can’t swim, you can’t dance, and you don’t know karate, face it you’re never gonna make it.”
@BaileeWalsh3 жыл бұрын
I've had those same thoughts on how Audrey has stayed relevant and well-known even when there are people who are unfamiliar with who she is. I also have a Breakfast At Tiffany's poster that I got when I was in high school. It was on my bedroom wall for a number of years and I still have it up in one of my rooms. Around the time I first got it, my cousin (5 years younger than me, btw) asked me who it was. I told her is was Audrey Hepburn. And then she said something like, "Oh, I've heard of her... but who is she?" So I told her a bit about Audrey. Audrey Hepburn and Marilyn Monroe are two major influences on me, probably Marilyn more than Audrey, tbh. And part of my initial interest in them was realizing that I recognized their names but didn't really know who they were- not just what they did, but WHO they were. (This also goes for James Dean but he's only in 3 feature films so it wasn't as big of a project, so-to-speak, because I also wanted to watch all of their films.) I had this realization when I was in middle school (2007-2009) and quote websites and quotes on blogs and such were particularly popular. And there were A LOT of Marilyn and Audrey quotes! It made me wonder how much those people posting these quotes and quoting these women actually knew anything about them. I think the juxtaposition between Audrey's life and her persona/who she played in films is interesting to think about, especially compared to Marilyn. Audrey had affairs and scandals but she still got these sweet, younger, _je ne sais quoi_ roles while Marilyn was a dedicated and vivacious learner but kept being put in dumb beautiful blonde roles. (Not that Audrey wasn't intelligent and Marilyn didn't have her share of scandals, of course.) I hate that they were pinned against each other like that, especially because it seems like they didn't really have interactions. It was Hollywood and the public making them out to be opposites. I guess that's not much different from today, though; women have to be competition against each other apparently. Just a sidenote: I love Breakfast At Tiffany's but I've always wondered what the film would be like had Marilyn gotten the role of Holly like Truman Capote wanted/intended.
@ADevilFromHeaven3 жыл бұрын
My dad used to show me his audrey movies (i grew up in the 90s/early 00s) . I absolutely loved her characters because they were actually relatable unlike many movie stars. And she was sooo pretty. And learning about her humanitarian work just made me love her more.
@ryennhaskin73293 жыл бұрын
“Hello my doves” 🥺 that phrase definitely makes me smile
@AelitaUndomiel2 жыл бұрын
I remember this Tumblr post mocking Audrey and saying she shouldn’t be seen as an icon, since she “was a bad example for girls for being bulimic”. First of all, she was anemic for life, not bulimic. Second, why would they blame her for her skinny body? It’s so sad, and she went through a lot too. I love her. EDIT: I also have an Audrey Hepburn pic in my room, I think everyone does in the planet 😭
@lexiel.82933 жыл бұрын
She’s been my role model for so long. She is my inspiration to have a career in humanitarianism. I’ve never been into her acting much, but her personal life and “real” life (as real as it can be w/out knowing her true self). I picked her quote as my senior year quote, “You have two hands one for helping yourself, the other for helping others”. ❤️❤️❤️
@EarthyReenz3 жыл бұрын
You have quickly become my favorite youtuber... so knowledgeable. Impeccable memes, but not too overbearing. Fashion and intelligence molded together.
@dayoolorunnisola1623 жыл бұрын
For anyone who wants to learn more about Audrey, the podcast The History Chicks has a wonderful episode on her 😁
@medealkemy3 жыл бұрын
What a coincidence, I discovered them TODAY 😂 by listening their smashing episode on Ella Fitzgerald. Great recommend!
@superrichkydz3 жыл бұрын
I thought I got this notification a day late.
@sonamuexx58503 жыл бұрын
How? When it was just posted???
@superrichkydz3 жыл бұрын
@@sonamuexx5850 look at the comment, “breakfast at mina’s” it’s one day old. Also look at the date of posting.
@gremlita3 жыл бұрын
I post a day earlier for my patrons ❤️. The video is posted publicly today.
@anita_loves_apples7653 жыл бұрын
@@superrichkydz patron
@abigailazureellis3 жыл бұрын
Same 😂 lol I thought my device was glitching lmao
@ellavieira76993 жыл бұрын
I can't remember when I got so inspired by Audrey Hepburn but I can honestly say her characters, her messages and fashion have changed my life. And I am so grateful.
@kayla.beaker_.33853 жыл бұрын
YES MY WEDNESDAY HAS BEEN BLESS BY AN AMAZING VIDEO FROM MINA!
@TheGabygael3 жыл бұрын
I love that she's a noble woman who managed to be so relatable to the masses through her effortless style and insecurities that she managed to stay relevant long after her passing She's an inspiration for me not because i believe that elegance is a goal one must achieve to be respected but because she comes across as nice , open, well-meaning, down to earth and really sharp
@alexander-vq3jd3 жыл бұрын
beautiful, kind, compassionate woman. i hope her legacy goes on forever!
@ryanc55723 жыл бұрын
The voice acting scene was so iconic. Loved it
@iya91373 жыл бұрын
nahh cuz the blame being put on actresses instead of the directors and/or producers for how theyre portrayed on cam is weird
@mauvemonster0003 жыл бұрын
i know they are not the same, but Audrey hepburn reminded me of Anya Joy-Taylor. The elegancy and some expressions ig. They are both marvelous
@MaiDay013 жыл бұрын
Mina don't ever stop doing what you do! You and moderngurlz are the reason I've really got into fashion, and analyzing it and seeing women my age embrace fashion when so many of the people I grew up with shunned it has honestly helped me to dive so into it so much more than I would have otherwise.
@sofianurul65843 жыл бұрын
One of the reasons (in my theory) for Audrey's tiny frame as well is because of the war. She had endured hunger/starvation from rationing and being trapped in an underground basement of some sort when hiding from the Nazis for two months with nothing but a piece of stale bread and some water, which I find so tragic. The way they idealised her physique when I think it was in part due to the war is ironically sad. I've been a huge fan and admirer of Audrey since young beyond her iconic fashion and a lot of my love for her was founded on not just everything you touched on regarding her relatability and charisma, but her goodwill and humanitarian work. Thank you for doing this video - this was really beautifully executed!!
@ecenuryavas63633 жыл бұрын
Although I find the comments on Marilyn from women mean, I understand that a female projected almost entirely from male gaze cannot feel authentic to regular women. Most of us do not want to be perceived merely as our sexuality, and when we see this is being done to other women we might not feel comfortable either. Feeling relatable is important, but in this case I think some women might think the way Hepburn was perceived by other people is also the way they want to be perceived as well. As someone who is funny, classy, charming and also have inner beauty as well.
@twicestan8803 жыл бұрын
Dude I would kill for miss Hepburn's closet
@nataliekrajsa48343 жыл бұрын
i can't fully see your chair but I can already tell that im obsessed with it.
@DawnlessSkys3 жыл бұрын
id love to see you talk about some stars who arent as well known now who were important fashion icons at the time! loved this video makes me want to go watch her movies
@an_evening_star_rose59913 жыл бұрын
She really did have an undefinable *something* that she brought to all of her characters
@megancaputo3 жыл бұрын
“they all had one thing in common” me: they were white mina: talent me: oh
@timothylivingston41359 ай бұрын
It is interesting to see black and white movies and early color movies. There is such a crispness to the black and white films, and the color movies have a vibrant look and feel that isn't in modern movies.
@littleseaturtle3 жыл бұрын
your videos are always such a joy to watch, thank you for putting so much effort and research into these for us. you’re incredible!!
@minushsha72433 жыл бұрын
I would love a video on Marilyn Monroe, she was such a misunderstood actress, and was an avant-garde person in real life contrary to what people often saw on the screen , you probably already know this but she had a dear friendship with Ella Fitzgerald , It's so beautiful and yet tragic that she would use her beauty to help others gain opportunities , and sad because she was often stereotyped and not recognised for her talents.
@madisonj51363 жыл бұрын
Marilyn was misunderstood back then but not anymore
@yuliya36153 жыл бұрын
Such a beautiful, well-explained, and elegant video! Every single one you make has so much love and care put into it, supporting you!
@marvel0963 жыл бұрын
Omg this video reminds me so much of episode 22 of the You must remember this podcast. It was titled Sex, Style and Sabrina and basically covers Audrey first meeting with Hubert de Givenchy, her fashion choices and her relationship with William Holden. For anyone interested in old Hollywood, it’s the quintessential podcast 🤍
@mariam30303 жыл бұрын
audrey was my gateway into old hollywood. she's literally the spirit that my heart really holds
@MrJMB1223 жыл бұрын
A dear friend of mine who been in producer in film since the 70s. Was producing for Garden of the world. He described her as one of most charming classy An elegant woman he ever had to work work and she was very kind and also incredibly easy to work with.
@jessicacroteau56003 жыл бұрын
I love that I saw the notification for this just after I printed out an image of her in the Givenchy wedding dress in Funny Face for my design journal
@swag444553 жыл бұрын
the amount of extensive reasearch you put into your videos never ceases to amaze me!!
@doelette74003 жыл бұрын
It would be great to hear you talk about Anna Karina, her fashion was amazing and really epitomised the 60s chic
@cris_here3 жыл бұрын
A grade school corrected me and told me the plural form of woman was pronounced “weh-men,” not “wo-men” because I used to say it like that at 2:02 lol
@itsmeelle98313 жыл бұрын
But i think everyone loves Breakfast At Tiffany's because of her iconic looks not the story itself, i don't wanna be like Holly Golightly, i wanna be Audrey Hepburn
@serenheart84263 жыл бұрын
Audrey taught me that I could be proud of my imperfections...I will be always thankful to her
@abigailazureellis3 жыл бұрын
flawless, like always. thank you for this lovely video Mina! ♡︎
@em-jd4do3 жыл бұрын
"you don't think sexy when you see audrey hepburn, do you?" well i do so i really should've known earlier that i was gay o-o
@kayakat18693 жыл бұрын
She reminds me of a little black cat. I think that's why many people like her.