The EU's New Plan to Handle China

[@ehmjay97]

As a European, one has the feeling that we have become quite naive since a few decades. I hope this is just a feeling and it doesn't come to a disaster.

[@ShadowBlitz776]

I kinda agree

[@Dekatelon]

Not naive, complacent

[@LizardSpork]

@@Dekatelon Definitely naive. There's a tendency for capitalists to think that trade will prevent war. Even though that has never ever proven to be true. It's a lesson the world has to relearn every 50 or so years.

[@Pointi69]

Yeah maybe but you have to try somehow. And worldwide peace is a nice dream to follow.

[@TheBooban]

It already became a disaster. Hello, Ukraine war? This is completely because of EU. And Merkel.

[@allanlank]

Europe should do what is best for Europe. Diversification and support for local production is necessary for maintaining prosperity and high quality of life.

[@testificles240]

and increase minimal wage, prosperity and redisribution of wealth from richer to poorer (areas, ppl, groups... really doesnt matter, but if jobs come back, they need to be high waged)

[@TheMakersRage]

@@testificles240 Yes, but we shouldn't pretend our destiny isn't tied to America's. This is a clash of civilizations and China wants to overturn the world order. This means undermining the West and Europe is the West. Europe must prepare to defend its interests make clear to China there will be no appeasement with them either

[@naif8493]

Europe's economy is already diverse, and a lot of production won't come back because wages in Europe are much higher than Eastern Asia as well as AI. If Europe wants to do what's best for them, number one would be fixing it screwed demographics

[@TheMakersRage]

@@naif8493 European influence is so ubiquitous it's like fish not realising they're in water. Notice we're not communicating in mandarin here

[@theaveragejoe5781]

Europe should do what is right.

[@TrevelyanOO6]

Commercial and trade integration was supposed to be EU (Germany)’s win-win strategy with Russia. That worked out well…

[@himanshusingh5214]

I can work well for South Korea, Japan and Taiwan being dependent on China and Vice-Versa.

[@sblbb929]

That was also USA's strategy on China after all. The thing is that this strategy would have worked if Ukraine hadn't been so unstable

[@gooflydo]

@@sblbb929 I think the world you are looking for is Invaded, not Unstable. And US strategy on china was to ignore its Hostile intent until it couldn't ignore it anymore. Now we are forced to deal with china because china is hell bent on conquering the world.

[@chickenfishhybrid44]

@@sblbb929 and it was an utter failure.

[@lars-erikstrid2278]

EU need to be such a powerhouse that it is the prefered option for Russia et al for it to work. If we had put the work in we could play the powers against each other to our benefit. At the moment that is a pipe-dream. Macron seem to want to build that foundation though.

[@spritemon98]

Now whether they stick to this plan is another story

[@bababababababa6124]

Yeah true (they won’t)

[@spritemon98]

@@bababababababa6124 they probably won't

[@spritemon98]

@@defcreator187 that's some odd humor you have there

[@Welgeldiguniekalias]

@@spritemon98 France will, Germany won't.

[@CentauriSphere]

True, but i think they will.

[@kaanboztepe]

the US will get more hawkish regardless of who wins , their foreign policy for the last and current presidents were similar in fact escalating in the same direction.

[@epicmonkeydrunk]

True but red side will still be more

[@eugene7145]

Good, thx USA from Hong Kong!

[@xyphoon5013]

Not necessarily? They will both be hawkish absolutely, but Republican voter base relies more on fighting foreign threats which means a Republic Administration will try to please their own electorate with certain gestures that could lead the EU to distance itself from American foreign policy

[@tasreasfatemsa8266]

US has more problem on domestic policy,no matter who is the president,50% American people will against the other 50%

[@JayW76]

Like China is not guilty of becoming more and more hawkish toward the U.S. over the past twenty years? Let's not forget that it was the United States that had a huge hand in helping China to climb out of the dark ages. China is no better than Russia, two regional powers demanding to be treated as global powers.

[@StarOnCheek]

"late 2010s" makes it sound like it was so long ago lmao

[@westrim]

The late 2000s was about 5 years ago. The late 2010s was about 30 years ago. Time is weird like that.

[@abobanger9054]

​@@westrim it's the oposite

[@EPK123]

@@westrim you are not that good on math mate, isnt it?

[@normanclatcher]

​​​@@EPK123 He's not talking about math, he's talking about perception and social attitudes. (It's also a joke.)

[@gen.tucker6024]

In 100 years it'll be like the 1910s for us And the people alive will think of us as ancient fossils and say: "just imagine how difficult it was to be alive back then"

[@weepingcamel1]

it's a shame haven't seen any channel taking the analysis 1 step further and look into the possible reactions from China side

[@jaapfolmer7791]

I'm not sure whether even the Chinese know how to react exactly. On the one hand they do not want Putin's demise, on the other they do not like his war one bit and want to keep their trading options open, because their economy is not doing so well anymore.

[@normanclatcher]

China is a black box of policymaking thanks to Xi.

[@necroth9149]

I think this is the most underrated comment on the comment section. like, people really think that china will let what we did to Russia fly by and not be any consequences? us made trade wars with them. Blocking chips. Blocking trade, reducing purchase. we did the same in some extent and doing the same. "Yeah, we want to be trade buddies, but only under our terms." lol dude, they decide the rules, not us. It's been like this for a few years, only EU is to dumb to realize what we should be doing is decoupling from us. We could be the world hub trade center and we trew it away for our "allies" Europe was known worldwide for its neutrality. we Not been the case in the last 10 years and i have a bad feeling as an EU citizen that we're going to pay expensive for that naiveness.

[@BasicLib]

@@necroth9149 Absolute delusion. Imagine thinking then Americans are your enemies in all of this.

[@noahway13]

I'm surprised China has not pushed its rare earth and battery dominance to fight the chip war.

[@joegoh1968]

They used to use words like "win-win", "mutual benefits", etc. Now the west only use words like "handle", "contain", etc.

[@sinic1978]

Because the West is now in irreversible decline.

[@Woo-qi9rc]

They are afraid that China will do unto them what they did on China 200 years ago

[@numbawan9527]

Cause China always wins more, they can’t “handle” that.

[@HeresMyView]

It is a sham designed to stall or procrastinate a hidden agenda. Europe economy is in shambles and in desperation.

[@johnsoncao3114]

Simply China is more strong. Who will worry about the competition with weak ones?

[@joem0088]

For her tough talk Van der Leyen was sent through the tourist queue in Beijing airport. China followed protocol as she was not invited and she was not a head state.

[@captainalex157]

only gonna increase her resolve. China cant be trusted and they (CCP) act like insecure children

[@BambinoAmericano]

As a EU citizen, I have always been frustrated by the lack of long-term vision of our politicians. Corruption in the European institutions and education systems is the cause.

[@Luchsio]

And unfortunately its getting even more worse in each decade. 😊

[@dannyboy8850]

It is the same in the US. We are going down together! 😭😭😭

[@peterphan3524]

The sad part about the European vision or attitude is, We will find out when we get there. China vision is plan now before we get there.

[@BambinoAmericano]

@@dannyboy8850 In my perception, and despite the European ignorant media,, the US is doing better. They seem to always re-invent themselves, even if it is difficult to compete against a fake capitalist dictatorship who never abides by the rules. That is because, as opposed to Europe, USA is an open society where the best talent, from anywhere in the world, gets is chance.

[@mainmusik3677]

EU politician is threaten by US. Their hands are tied. US can do nasty thing to any countries. Do you have any idea, why panama papers leak , didnt expose much of US politician ???

[@kostadinpantev]

Remarkable how precisely the movement of Ben's right hand matches the rythm of his speech.

[@Spankee99]

I can’t unsee it.

[@robinstevenson6690]

Sharp. Good choice of topic. You're showing that you're on the ball here.

[@skazka3789]

Von de Leyen had to go to China on a commercial flight, received no red carpet or military honour guard and only the ecology minister was there to greet her. Meanwhile, Macron got the whole pomp and circumstance, foreign minister there to greet him at airport, state banquet and was even invited to sit down together with Xi for tea in Guangzhou, view the Songyuan gardens and listen to guqin performance (it's very rare for Xi to meet foreign leaders outside Beijing). Tells you everything you need to know really. Airbus sales go BBBRRRRRRRR

[@刚-o2h]

von de leyen is a U.S agent...

[@SelfProclaimedEmperor]

Wonder what France will do once china copies their aircraft tech and makes their own, cutting out France all together.

[@ionnanskilliorus6877]

That's because she's not a head of state. All that pomp is only laid out for them, or their representatives to a lesser extent.

[@skazka3789]

@@ionnanskilliorus6877 The General Secretary of the Communist Party of Vietnam isn't a head of state either, yet he got the total treatment in China

[@murphy7801]

France is a nuclear power and member of the UN security council. Also Biden got the red carpet and he isn't a friend.

[@joshuachapman247]

Wow, has the Eu actually learning from past experiences? Legit impressed.

[@normanclatcher]

The reason the EU exists in the first place is their having learned their lessons from WWII.

[@jacob4920]

They learn slow, but yes, they do eventually catch on.

[@LordKalerran]

@@normanclatcher would be nice if they learned this time instead of sniffing paint like they have been regarding Ukraine. EU: “No, Russia would never invade Ukraine! 2014 never happened! Shut up America and rest of the world!”

[@ksr7765]

​@@LordKalerran perhaps you are right and eu should stop beliving it this peace nonsense and become something of neo axis and start conqering all of its neighbors

[@Erwin1293-]

@@LordKalerran oh yes that totally was the the position of EU countries like Poland. The problem with the EU are politicians like von der leyen who only got the job because she was too bad as a minister for Germany. And that the public still remembered being spied out and lied to by the USA as well as trump who didn’t even took time to find about how trade is done with the EU. This put the EU in a awkward position regarding trade and geo politics. You often forget that it consists of 27 countries who all have a different approach on how to handle being spied out or getting Tariffs put on products for no good reason. The USA wasn’t a reliable partner in the last two decades and that left a mark.

[@XiyuYang]

Chinese here, lived abroad (the US, the UK, France) for over a decade. Don't want to write a diatribe here, I'll keep it short: get your shit together Europeans, it will be in your own best interests to diversify your trade and political partners.

[@Ligress]

I like china, it's meritocracy - Kashmiri Indian

[@paxcaeli]

Correction: At 3:22 those eagles are outlines of the russain state seal, not the german

[@wingkei8779]

It's more like how China Handles EU.

[@tobiwan001]

The problem with the IRA is not that is „generous“ on subsidies, but that it discriminates against foreign manufacturers in a way that is illegal under the WTO rules. The US have weakened that due to European pressure, but Europe always had high energy prices and there is a risk of some highly energy intensive processes moving abroad. I doubt they will go to the US though. The effect is more of a general de-globalization as now many tend to produce where they sell and no longer where II is cheapest. But the amount of new semiconductor production facilities and battery plants in Germany and Europe in general shows that the effect on Europe is likely minor. Also the shift to green energy will help Europe as it is further along that path than the US and China which both rely on coal, oil and gas for electricity production.

[@Pointi69]

Even US is building way more renewables now.

[@Anthony-xd1lj]

you think the US is pissing itself because of the EU? what a joke the UK and EU did not always have high prices until we started to support this war in ukraine. if japan, china and russia came knocking on our doors they will destory us

[@editorrbr2107]

I’m stunned we’ve come as far as we have in the US. In 15 years we went from 8.3% renewables and 7% nuclear, to 39% combined. Still not sufficient, but tripled capacity since 2008 is fairly speedy for such a large country. Assuming the GOP would ever stop suing to stop the imminent transition, we’d be a lot further than that.

[@Anthony-xd1lj]

@@editorrbr2107 stupid politicians are worried about the climate change when the climate change has been changing for years in the 1970 they called it global cooling they just changed the words to climate change and we all know it's a scam. if you think the worlds is going to end get your head checked out they want to tax us into poverty to stop the sun from being hot we had people like Bill gates who want to dim the sun

[@tiglishnobody8750]

What IRA?

[@kenambo]

I think the greeting of Ursula, or lack of, at the airport is indicative of what China thinks. Contempt comes to mind.

[@pikachus5m166]

Why give someone the red carpet they don't deserve ? A few weeks earlier, she was spouting the US line, now toning it down in China, typical hypocrite.

[@donderstorm1845]

I think it's because Ursula isn't a head of state and she made some harsh statements about China before the trip. oh and i don't think they even invited her, she just joined Macron.

[@buravan1512]

She went to CHINA, without any invitation 😂 her visit was not OFFICIAL.

[@MelvoraFilms]

Good, she’s trash

[@chew5461]

@@donderstorm1845 an UNINVITED guest with NO MANNERS. A no, no in Chinese culture.

[@LeonelMartinez-kw9vq]

Maybe you don’t know this, but the only reason China did rise up was because US decided to help them and opened US market to chinese manufactured US designed goods. 8:23 That era Is over now🥫🍿🎂 there is no reason for us to help China anymore. Now it is up to EU to decide what are they goi g to do. Hopefully they make a better strategic decision than what they made with ruzzia

[@only_fair23]

You're acting like they did it out of charity. China was cheap and it was a way to break the Communist bloc up further and after that, it turned out to be very profitable for the West

[@platin2148]

I still wonder why the WTO considers them as developing nation.

[@platin2148]

@Jack Smith I think you have no clue about anything. It’s not jealous it’s just that china has self claimed no poverty anymore but counts as developing nation which is wrong. As it doesn’t full fill the criteria for that status in the WTO anymore. China is a export driven economy as such requires foreign countries to buy there stuff else gdp suffers and there people suffer. If you say it isn’t like that then you probably should go back in the cave where you came from.

[@robman2095]

Each country gets to self-describe so it is simply because that’s what China decided would deliver the most benefits from its membership. China itself is responsible for that category of membership applying. Other countries can however limit what developing country preferences apply in the case of any particular member in that category.

[@Mana-xd2tp]

Because they are actually developing shit

[@Pattern_Noticer]

Because the WTO was bought out by China sycophants the moment they admitted China and now it is simply out of control. The WTO exists to harm Western countries to benefit African and Eastern countries by the banksters who run the world and bleed Europe dry for their tribe.

[@etraudnoslen]

This is more than needed. EU has to learn its lessons with Russia's invasion in Ukraine. If the EU does not prepare itself and China invades Taiwan, that crisis will make the current war like a joke. Almost 1 trillion in trade means we need to rethink how trade is done. Germany might be good on many things, as seen in its relation with Russia until the war, international relations and strategy, is clearly not one of them. Besides, we need to reindustrialise some areas in Europe, particularly in areas where unemployment is high.

[@prplt]

if Chyna invades Taiwan they're just gonna get destroyed like Russia in Ukraine 😂

[@mgronich948]

The lesson Europe needs to learn is that being the US neocon's vassal is bad for your economy. Remember Henry Kissinger's famous quote, to be an enemy of the US is dangerous, to be its friend is fatal.

[@TheBooban]

Funny that. Low population growth yet high unemployment. Hmm. Wonder why…?

[@etraudnoslen]

@@TheBooban precisely because industries were relocated in China. Europe has to wake up.

[@todortodorov940]

Industrialize with the wages in most western countries - good luck (this could be possible in few Easter European countries, but it's tricky)

[@keekeehing5457]

As Europeans say China uses forced labor, Chinese people just feel unimaginable since this kind of ineffective and inefficient mode of production would not be possible in China, particularly they're talking in a size of "million" or tens of thousands.

[@Houthiandtheblowfish]

7:16 fitting picture lol

[@btfilther]

The EU is playing cautiously with China mainly because every modern day manufacturing process is very damaging to the environment. We have offloaded all of that to China and also to end our energy dependency on russian fossil fuels we need hi-tech "green" solutions that are again manufactured in China. Globalization is a great thing that is extremely beneficial for all if the actors are predictable and benevolent.

[@ayoCC]

Agreed I wish for more mechanisms like the EU candidate status, where more synchronisation with EU law, means more trade with the EU. A new limited free trade zone that creates a system of lawful spread of democracy and human rights values. The core 27 will be the legislative body, or rather the core keepers of democracy, if another country can reduce corruption, improve the economy and abide by human rights principles to a point that it gets a top score on a watchdog organization they can join the core union and must be allowed in by law to strengthen principles of democratic separation of power.

[@ralphemerson497]

Kind of like the moral superiority of the EU. Pro-alternative energy. Reduce carbon output. Pro-environment. But let’s keep all our modern conveniences but allow China to mine coal, pollute the environment, stripe mine for lithium and basically ignore every single human right cherished by the West. Ironic!

[@tharnganbenedict24]

Europe should go green without russian energy and chinese manufactures. During the roman empire, europe was a very clean environment without pollution. It should envisioned about moving back to the ways of romans and achieve the going green agenda. Let the industries moved out to the U.S. and China. It would do good to europe in the long run.

[@MGZetta]

@@tharnganbenedict24 How does your brain somehow think that it's correct to compare the past industrial era with the Roman empire on environmental pollution. Lmao. The most "damaging" thing you could do to the environment back then was to shit your ass off. Lol.

[@zzzz6511]

@@tharnganbenedict24 yep they should go back to roman era.

[@Soren_Caique_xD]

Great informative video and a very good way to show it easy to us users of KZbin. 👍

[@ribbon8677]

I think we finally understood that you can't trade resources with democracy: as for example, Germany's policy to trade with Russia for gas didn't make Russia a peaceful country, let alone democratic. We mustn't repeat the same mistake with China.

[@y4go650]

“How EU will handle China” more like how China will handle Europe

[@KhaalixD]

Great video!

[@vaiyaktikasolarbeam1906]

thx for info!

[@fintux]

Over the years, EU became complacent. It became very dependant on Russia for energy and many commodities, China for production and US on the defense. Good to see the EU starting to wake up, not a moment too soon, but hopefully not too late. Yeah it has been nice to get stuff for low price and not have to spend so much on military. What is not so nice is that giving up so much power and leverage has been the hidden cost.

[@zadovrus1624]

8:40 EU can't afford to cut off China. That would cause a great recession in Europe

[@igorkarnjus8062]

Current EU policy toward China is under pressure from US to follow its hawkish policy. I don't see decoupling as solution, but more as a problem. Resilience, diversification, security of supply chain of EU economy is more appropriate way to settle EU policy toward China

[@goncalomeneses5611]

More than resilience we need to enhance our productivity. Have a much more competitive economy that the Chinese one and others.

[@SelfProclaimedEmperor]

Decoupling from China is the only way to stop the de-industrialization of Europe. China wants all of your factories, every last one.

[@Ecaea]

@@goncalomeneses5611 so patriotic , but how will you do that without forcing your countrymen into hard labour and extremely low salary to compete with China? Wheres the incentives for manufacturing locally? You think money just comes out of nowhere and your machinery is magically as cheap as it is?

[@goncalomeneses5611]

@@Ecaea Increase technology domain handling and always be at the front of this frontier. Make goods and render services that are the best quality ones worldwide and that are key for modern society. Just a few ideas. There are many more from those came up.

[@Ecaea]

@@goncalomeneses5611 and you still have to pay the workers to operate it don't you? And so my question still stands. Do you plan to pay them nothing or you pay them the standard and cause the product to increase in price? Or you make it fully automated and not produce any jobs out of this opportunity?

[@lining8385]

There would only be peace if uS stopped meddling. Unfortunately, they have only stepped up their level of creating chaos. Sharing below written by a Malaysian KZbinr: I’m from Malaysia. China has traded with Malaysia for 2000 years. In those years, they had been the world’s biggest powers many times. Never once they sent troops to take our land. China's admiral Zhenghe came to Malacca five times, in gigantic fleets, and a flagship eight times the size of Christopher Columbus’ flagship, Santa Maria. He could have seized Malacca easily, but he did not. In 1511, the Portuguese came. In 1642, the Dutch came. In the 18th century the British came. We were colonised by each, one after another. When China wanted spices from India, they traded with the Indians. When they wanted gems, they traded with the Persian. They didn’t take lands. The only time China expanded beyond their current borders was in Yuan Dynasty, when Genghis and his descendants Ogedei Khan, Guyuk Khan & Kublai Khan concurred China, Mid Asia and Eastern Europe. But Yuan Dynasty, although being based in China, was a part of the Mongolian Empire. Then came year 1800, the Century of Humiliation. Britain smuggled opium into China to dope the population, a strategy to turn the trade deficit around, after the British could not find enough silver to pay the Qing Dynasty in their tea and porcelain trades and the doping went on for over 30 years. After the opium warehouses were burned down and ports were closed by the Chinese in ordered to curb opium, the British started the Opium War I, which China lost. Hong Kong was forced to be surrendered to the British in a peace talk (Nanjing Treaty). The British owned 90% of the opium market in China, during that time, Queen Victoria was the world’s biggest drug baron. The remaining 10% was owned by American merchants from Boston. Many of Boston’s institutions were built with profit from opium. After 12 years of Nanjing Treaty, the West started getting really really greedy. The British wanted the Qing government: 1. To open the borders of China to allow goods coming in and out freely, and tax free. 2. Make opium legal in China. Insane requests, Qing government said no. The British and French (with supports from the US), started Opium War II with China, which again, China lost. The Anglo-French military raided the Summer Palace, and threatened to burn down the Imperial Palace, the Qing government was forced to pay with ports, free business zones, 300,000 kilograms of silver and Kowloon was taken. Since then, China’s resources flew out freely through these business zones and ports. In the subsequent amendment to the treaties, Chinese people were sold overseas to serve as labor. In 1900, China suffered attacks by the 8-National Alliance. These 8-Robbers were: Empire of Japan, Russian Empire, British Empire (including India), France, USA, Germany, Italy and Austria-Hungary. Innocent Chinese civilians in Peking (Beijing now) were murdered, buildings were destroyed & women were raped. The Imperial Palace was raided, and treasures ended up in museums like the British Museum in London and the Louvre in Paris. In late 1930s China was occupied by the Japanese in WWII. Millions of Chinese died during the occupancy. 300,000 Chinese died in Nanjing Massacre alone. Mao brought China together again from the shambles. There were peace and unity for some time. But Mao’s later reign saw sufferings and deaths from famine and power struggles. Then came Deng Xiao Ping and his infamous “black-cat and white-cat” story. His preference in pragmatism than ideologies transformed China. This thinking allowed China to evolve all the time to adapt to the actual needs in the country, instead of rigidly bounded to ideologies. It also signified the death of Communism in actually practice in China. The current Socialism+Meritocracy+Market Economy model fits the Chinese like gloves, and it propels the uprise of China. Singapore has a similar model, and has been arguably more successful than Hong Kong, because Hong Kong being gateway to China, was riding on the economic boom in China, while Singapore had no one to gain from. In just 30 years, the CPC have moved 800 millions of people out from poverty. The rate of growth is unprecedented in human history. They have built the biggest mobile network, by far the biggest high speed rail network in the world, and they have become a behemoth in infrastructure. They made a fishing village called Shenzhen into the world’s second largest technological centre after the Silicon Valley. They are growing into a technological power house. It has the most elaborate e-commerce and cashless payment system in the world. They have launched exploration to Mars. The Chinese are living a good life and China has become one of the safest countries in the world. The level of patriotism in the country has reached an unprecedented height. For all of the achievements, the West has nothing good to say about it. China suffers from intense anti-China propagandas from the West. Western Media used the keyword “Communist” to instil fear and hatred towards China. Everything China does is negatively reported. They claimed China used slave labor in making iPhones. The truth was, Apple was the most profitable company in the world, it took most of the profit, leave some to Foxconn (a Taiwanese company) and little to the labor. They claimed China was inhuman with one-child policy. At the same time, they accused China of polluting the earth with its huge population. The fact is the Chinese consume just 30% of energy per capita compared to the US. They claimed China underwent ethnic cleansing in Xinjiang. The fact is China has a policy which priorities ethnic minorities. For a long time, the ethnic minorities were allowed to have two children and the majority Han only allowed one. The minorities are allowed a lower score for university intakes. There are 39,000 mosque in China, and 2100 in the US. China has about 3 times more mosque per muslim than the US. When terrorist attacks happened in Xinjiang, China had two choices: 1. Re-educate the Uighur extremists before they turned terrorists. 2. Let them be, after they launch attacks and killed innocent people, bomb their homes. China chose option 1 to solve problem from the root and not to do killing. How the US solve terrorism? Fire missiles from battleships, drop bombs from the sky. During the pandemic, when China took extreme measures to lockdown the people, they were accused of being inhuman. When China recovered swiftly because of the extreme measures, they were accused of lying about the actual numbers. When China’s cases became so low that they could provide medical support to other countries, they were accused of politically motivated. Western Media always have reasons to bash China. Just like any country, there are irresponsible individuals from China which do bad and dirty things, but the China government overall has done very well. But I hear this comment over and over by people from the West: I like Chinese people, but the CPC is evil. What they really want is the Chinese to change the government, because the current one is too good. Fortunately China is not a multi-party democratic country, otherwise the opposition party in China will be supported by notorious NGOs (Non-Government Organization) of the USA, like the NED (National Endowment for Democracy), to topple the ruling party. The US and the British couldn’t crack Mainland China, so they work on Hong Kong. Of all the ex-British colonial countries, only the Hong Kongers were offered BNOs by the British. Because the UK would like the Hong Kongers to think they are British citizens, not Chinese. A divide-and-conquer strategy, which they often used in Color Revolutions around the world. They resort to low dirty tricks like detaining Huawei’s CFO & banning Huawei. They raised a silly trade war which benefits no one. Trade deficit always exist between a developing and a developed country. USA is like a luxury car seller who ask a farmer: why am I always buying your vegetables and you haven’t bought any of my cars? When the Chinese were making socks for the world 30 years ago, the world let it be. But when Chinese started to make high technology products, like Huawei and DJI, it caused red-alert. Because when Western and Japanese products are equal to Chinese in technologies, they could never match the Chinese in prices. First world countries want China to continue in making socks. Instead of stepping up themselves, they want to pull China down. The recent movement by the US against China has a very important background. When Libya, Iran, and China decided to ditch the US dollar in oil trades, Gaddafi’s was killed by the US, Iran was being sanctioned by the US, and now it’s China’s turn. The US has been printing money out of nothing. The only reason why the US Dollar is still widely accepted, is because it’s the only currency which oil is allowed to be traded with. The US has an agreement with Saudi that oil must be traded in US dollar ONLY. Without the petrol-dollar status, the US dollars will sink, and America will fall. Therefore anyone trying to disobey this order will be eliminated. China will soon use a gold-backed crypto-currency, the alarms in the White House go off like mad. China’s achievement has been by hard work. Not by looting the world. Having messed up Middle East, now they want to screw up Asia. I have deep sympathy for China for all the suffering, but now I feel happy for them.

[@asan1050]

Thanks Much !

[@peterzimmerman1114]

De-risking sounds like a good idea, it helps reduce the risk in many different scenarios, it could be trade blockades, people uprisings, wars, trade dissagreements, political turmil or dissagreements and many other possibilities. It's risky to be too dependant on one source for certain goods and resources even if China isn't doing it on purpose to mess with the EU. I can understand how this gas situation with Putin made them review the situation from a security standpoint to avoid risks or at least decrease the risks.

[@theconqueringram5295]

Germany really seems to like its commercial relations with dictatorships.

[@jx-cd1kf]

So there is no such relationship between US and Saudi Arabia? Please tell me something

[@madiradi]

The total trade volume between China and the United States in 2022 was $690.6 billion. Of this, the US imported US $536.8 billion from China and exported US $153.8 billion to China，Germany is not alone

[@MetaView7]

There is an All-you-can-eat buffet restaurant near Ursula's home. The food is good, the price is right, and since she discovered the restaurant, she practically stopped cooking. Today she went to the restaurant owner and complain: I am not trying to decouple you, but I have to de-risk and redefine our relationship.

[@caesarmatty]

There is an All-you-can-eat buffet restaurant near Ursula's home. The food is bad, but it's very cheap. The restaurant owner beats his employees, tries to cheat his customers, puts listening devices into the food packaging and tries to forcibly take over other business. Ursula finally decided to stop ignoring this, but she still really wants cheap food. She said she would still shop there, but maybe not as much.

[@HeresMyView]

😂😂😂😂 👍 trying to weasel her way in.

[@luisrodrigues2409]

She finally discovered that this shouldn't be the only restaurant in town!

[@李金州]

@@caesarmatty 这么多的谎言编成的糟糕小故事，是如何在2023年网络如此发达的今天还能让您深信不疑的？很佩服你的智商。

[@Cadere-jz1te]

It's more like Ursula's husband, her family members and friends like to go to the restaurant. Then Ursula comes and starts to wag her finger to the restaurant's owner. All this because her secret lover is unhappy with the restaurant.

[@markotrieste]

What's the point of having the best social and civil rights in the world if we allow our products to be undercut by manufacturing from countries where exist forced labor, there is no free speech nor right to unionize?

[@Jim54_]

The EU needs to woo India and invest there. India is closer to Europe, and is a geopolitical adversary of the CCP. If we invest heavily in India in return for military arrangements, we may have a chance.

[@BrandonBDN]

Yep, thats what the US is doing. In exchange for helping India develop, helping India against China, and backing India during a few controversies the US has gained a major Asian ally and trait partner that will surely bring massive fruits in the coming years.

[@daniellarson3068]

I don't think these guys mentioned the fact that China could back down on some of it's aggressive policies. Chinese aren't dumb. They have 1.4 billion people to provide a living for. based on what they've done in the past 50 years, they do a lot for their people. Unlike Russia,they seem to give much more consideration to the welfare of their people. If they slowly back down, the US and Europe will do the same and all will prosper.

[@Andromeda365]

Who foreign policy is more aggressive the US or china's?

[@julianurbaniak7055]

I believe that we would benefit in the long run to be more dependent on one another instead of china. Sure its easier and cheaper to rely on china but if they get too much influence in europe things might turn south really quickly ending in an economical ruin or worse. I believe we shouldnt alienate ourselves from china but we should be wary of them as they really express their hatred for democracy in their own country.

[@alone-tt8dg6ic6f]

Chinese are more democratic than the EU, the colonists.

[@eliso5973]

China doesn't hate democracy, it's the other way around. The West wants to force China to change it's political system and it is wrong. China doesn't care if EU has democracy or not, it's not China's business, and EU should do the same. China has huge influence in many countries, but none of them gave up democracy because of China's influence.

[@commie5211]

They only dislike you telling them what is democracy and who is democratic in their country. mind your own fucking business, that is what they are saying.

[@JunkieOfJunk]

Europe is too far away from China to worry about its threat. Trading makes more sense, as long as China doesn’t help Russia’s war too much. China’s neighbors have more reasons to be concerned. EU is not gonna be too reliable a partner for the US when it comes to dealing with China.

[@Pointi69]

I would also make more and better deals in the EU. And things we have to buy we can deals out of the EU. Also industry should stay in Europe . It will be more expensive, but in the end we always pay a higher price not to have everything in EU . Look at the pademic or now the war. And we money we spend to other not EU countrys is often spend for weapons against us. By the way EU is getting bigger and bigger.

[@hughjass1044]

"De-risking without de-coupling." or "Having our cake and eating it too." or "We're going to keep doing what we've always been doing, we're just going to expect different results." or "We're going to keep drinking like fishes, we just won't get drunk." Oh yeah, that'll work.

[@ulfosterberg1979]

More like carry a big stick but speak with a soft woice. It used to be an american thing.......

[@hughjass1044]

@@ulfosterberg1979 Europe? A big stick? You're too naive for words.

[@ulfosterberg1979]

@@hughjass1044 you americains seems to see everything as a military problem.

[@hughjass1044]

@@ulfosterberg1979 I'm not American and this IS a military problem. Or it very soon will be unless Europeans get their collective heads out of their asses and start recognizing reality. And anytime you clowns want less America in your lives, you just say the word. If it weren't for them, you'd all be waving hammer & sickle flags.... or swastikas.

[@monkeeseemonkeedoo3745]

@@ulfosterberg1979 That is all that 'big stick' refers to in the original quote, military muscle.

[@levipb1403]

Just don't let winnie Pooh's interest mess our freedom of speech in the EU

[@richiesd1]

Why would Europe do the bidding of the USA?

[@richiesd1]

@@koschmx , serious? Trying to trip up the competition is just a bad idea for humanity. The better way is to show the world that your ideas work and produce superior outcomes. Show the world with the real deeds that improve the lives of humankind.

[@richiesd1]

@@koschmx , improvement for whom? Great power competition is benefiting places like Africa right now. If China builds them a high speed rail line, maybe America will build them a superhighway. You think?

[@richiesd1]

@@koschmx , i understand your argument. John Mearsheimer says the same. The United States is pursuing a rollback with regard to China. But I believe that things have changed from the days of empires. China now has the backing of the global south where the growth is happening. We will see in 10 years.

[@romankacin8365]

So, basically, Germany has learned nothing from its Russian energy dependence strategy fiasco. Still all about the cash.

[@PeterMuskrat6968]

Yup. German government and the corporations that own it would literally sell out their own people for more profit and cheaper manufacturing.

[@tasreasfatemsa8266]

Germany knows who blowed up their tubes,they are not stupid,I don't know you are or not

[@eliso5973]

actually, Germany has learned a lesson from being US's close ally. Yes, US disallows Germany to get close with Russia, so no more NS1 and NS2.

[@DarkHarlequin]

This is very very simplified but after WW2 Germany was esentially forbidden from having any notable military power plus the population had 0 apetite for military conflicts. So the country found its new power in economic and diplomatic clout. Security through linking essentially all influential nations wealthy people to your wellbeing somehow. This behaviour is a result of that!

[@ckokloong]

What is the alternative to Russian oil? Is US and Middle East oil a good idea? Or Germany want to fire up more coal plant?

[@GonzaloAPH]

"De-Risking but No De-Coupling" sounds like a very fancy way of saying "Things will continue much the same. We just like Yuans too much".

[@OptLab]

No. Trading food, energy, low hardware or cosmetics, clothing, toys or luxury goods is not risky. This is called de-risking Europe risk when they sell cars built in China where their capital, know how, knowledge, ingineers, intellectual property and money are all stuck in China. Europe also risk when they sell 1 high end equipment such like hospital equipment, train or plane. Everything that has something to do with technology is highly risky, especially "joined ventures" china investments in european firms and soft power influence though medias, associations or web platforms.

[@howard6340]

First. Thanks for your videos. They are very pleasant to watch and informative.

[@EnlightenedMathGuy]

Sad to see Europe as a 3 power, a little player in geopolitics of the world and the huge dependency to other countries, from what she was in the past the center of technology and progress.

[@Guesswhokk]

Will it work? ANS: obviously not, just ask those in Tibet, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Xinjiang and Mongolia. Or ask their Chinese neighbors like S. Korea, Japan, Australia, Malaysia, India and etc.

[@paulcherbakov4068]

Thing is, does it really matter what kind of policy EU choose? Last news about BASF facility shot down maybe spells out to politicians that their EU production HAS become non competitive and it WILL travel somewhere else. If EU decides to allow their companies to transfers to China or to America, do you really call it a policy in international relations? Or is the EC just tells that it is all a one big plan, like the decrease in energy consumption?

[@nielsnijmegen2917]

What you are stating is old news. EU has always let companies to transfer activities to China or where they wanted. And they did: Volkswagen, Philips, Unilever... end every other company has factories or suppliers in China, sometimes even more than in the rest of the world. But now we are very much dependable AND China has not moved in our direction regarding their policies, what we hoped for... So now we have to adapt, better late than never.

[@MetaView7]

@@nielsnijmegen2917 China's strategy has always been for a Win-Win Cooperation. China has tried to build factories in USA and Europe. Do you know the resistances they encountered? smh. Ask Elon. Look up the Wiki article called "American Factory".

[@laraw840]

@@nielsnijmegen2917 "China has not moved in our direction regarding their policies, what we hoped for.." - what direction? and why you would expect China to move in the direction you'd hoped for? Was there a condition in the first place? China is also a huge country with 3.5 times the population of the EU, it is also an old civilization, why do you think that your perception direction is suitable and fits China's responsibility and interest for its citizens?

[@nielsnijmegen2917]

@@laraw840 Europe hoped that (like e.g. in South-Korea) that China would become a more free country, with more respect for human rights, with less dominance of one party, possibly a starting democracy, with a middle class asking not for political aversion to other systems, but asking for cooperation, less military expansion, etc.

[@laraw840]

@@nielsnijmegen2917 by “a more free country” let’s split freedom into personal and political freedom. Have you been to China? I have. When I lived/traveled in China, I felt I had EXACTLY the same personal freedom as I have in the US, UK, FR, DE, NL, IT, ES, KR...you name it on a daily basis. Other than this being-able-to-do-whatever-I-want type of freedom, I suppose an average person also wants to be free from crime and poverty. When I lived/traveled in a typical Western country mentioned above, I wouldn’t go out after dark by myself whereas in China, I could totally go out on the streets, anytime I want, even past midnight to go clubbing, fetch food, or even withdraw money from ATMs (before paying was digitalized) and feeling completely safe as a girl. China lifted not 8, but 800M people out of poverty (acc. to the World Bank), it has a social security system that covers pension, unemployment, medical, work-related injury, and housing funds. so whether you work for local or foreign companies, you basically have yourself covered and that’s why you almost never see homeless people on the street (unlike EU and USA in particular). As for political freedom, I would cite what Chas W. Freeman said: if the US (or any country for that matter) has the same ratio of people to arable land as China does, we would accept far more control and restrictions because when you are crowded living together, you accept a social contract which is much tighter and more discipline. China has 5K history and it has always had a central government. It knows how it's best and efficient to run its government. Western democracy is overrated in the sense that it often elects incompetent leaders (trump, Boris Johnson, Bolsonaro, Biden..) and it often has great difficulty enacting effective long-term policy, and whatever policies it does have, they tend to be compromised. CN government being the way it is, has brought results to its people. Acc. to the French company IPSOS survey, 78% and 83% of Chinese respondents said they are satisfied with the “country’s economic situation” and “the country’s social and political situation.” And finally, why shouldn’t China expand its military when the US built missile bases aimed at China from one end of the first island chain to the other? The US is also sailing warships through the Taiwan Strait, encouraging AU, JP, and even TW to adopt a hostile, armed posture toward China. I seemed to have typed a lot here. I responded because you seem reasonable, but I’m afraid that mainstream media is feeding misleading, biased, and very often false news about China. China has its problems, but I think with an open and investigated mind along with some empathy, there would be less conflict among countries and fewer accusations, esp. false ones.

[@wearebecomedeathstar2658]

When you talk about the dwindling communications between China and the US, you have to mention that it's because China stopped answering diplomatic calls from washington, or you make it sound like a mutual thing.

[@georgesibley7152]

for months The USa never wanted to communicate with China, when the weather balloon was flying it singularly failed to communicate and instead spent time criticising China and spreading false information. before the USa also talked with forked tongue. saying one thing and doing another. it cannot be trusted.

[@katalinkiss120]

When "communication" consists largely of threats, intimidation and lies why would anyone bother

[@fannyalbi9040]

y western cxxt always tell one side of the story? is self righteousness always in their bloody cxxt?

[@sentenialXmen]

China stopped answering diplomatic calls from Washington? NO SHIT!!! To be honest with you, the allies in Asian countries hate getting a call from the US...LOL. I have been hearing China is going to invade Taiwan since 1970. Now is 2023. Go figure!!

[@incisivecommenter5974]

​@katkiss From China and their Wolf warrior "diplomacy"? Yeah I agree. The Chinese fail to understand that communication is better than war.

[@cyberguy6625]

This sorta reminds me of the Ferengi's philosophy from Star Trek saying that you should trade with your enemy. What do you guys think? Does it make sense to trade with a potential adversary? Or should all trades be cut off to avoid dependency? Some would say that keeping establish trade could help ease relations after dominance has been established, keeping trade also helps with gaining visibility and intelligence on your potential adversary during the conflict.

[@virtutemodestia3477]

Lol, please do tell me why you, as a supposed European, insist on making China your enemy when China doesn't even see EU as an enemy unless you make them one? Who made you the albatross and guardians of Asia? And what business do you even have as Europeans with Taiwan, South China Sea areas and geography far removed and away from the continent of Europe? The days of the European colonial era and hegemony in my country (China) and Asia are over. If you bananas think that you can come in and dictate the terms of trade, policies, and systems to us, then lol, that's just beyond delusional.

[@boomperson818]

This is like asking should you go to war with your enemy. Answer is almost always no, just like the answer to your question is yes. Globalization benefits everyone (even if its unequally)

[@Homer-OJ-Simpson]

I think there is a balance of both that must be done. Trade but don't trade too much where you are dependent on them. Unless it's a liberal democracy.

[@williamdavis9562]

@@Homer-OJ-Simpson If the prerequisite to trade was that a nation has to be a democracy the largest players in Europe wouldn't even be able to trade with each other.

[@rictechow231]

One of the things China said to Australia was the Chinese people may not buy Australian wine if you don't kow tow. China can scarcely complain should Europeans and American consumers decide not to buy Chinese products.

[@liyuanqian9143]

US-China trade volume makes it ridiculous for US to ask others to reduce theirs with China.

[@demonboy7777]

Derisking sounds good theory but could be vague enough that countries do what they were going to and it fails to become a cohesive strategy.

[@wondererasl]

My comment to this kind of narative is: the hilariousness of how anglo-saxon is crying for nowadays' global power shifting to the east, always makes much fun for me.

[@birdyashiro1226]

Same💀

[@dexteryousef2380]

For china, de-risking is equal to gradual decoupling. But still, this is the only possible relationship between EU & china, and china must deal with it with open mind & diplomacy.

[@Pointi69]

They will not do it. We should largely invest in other countrys.

[@samo4003]

It seems that the EU still thinks that China will still play by the rules. China has always played by its own rules since the time of Mao. It did not change during Deng's time. It has not changed with Xi at the helm. 😁

[@ayoCC]

​@@samo4003china always operated on might makes right, true.

[@pnduarte4696]

​@@ayoCC yeah by being the most passive power than US,Russia and EU.

[@pnduarte4696]

​@@samo4003 what rules? Who decided those rules were the norm? The west? Why would China follow the orders from the west?

[@Hession0Drasha]

Germany is more dependent on exports than the usa is, as a total of gdp. America can afford to be more strategic. It costs them less to be so.

[@djdahous]

Very good summary

[@vis7040]

hey your arm's alright? your arm is going up and down at like 2:30

[@xSkyWeix]

This was so shameful to watch. Ad always Europe gave a non-answer and is undecided about what to do with itself. The remark about increasing comunication to avoid miscommunication with China was painful to hear. Such naivete.

[@mabo9636]

I used to work in a Chinese textile company. We have customer from Spain. Someday I was just curious why they don't give contract from North African country such as Morocco. My customer just shaked his head and laughed without giving any answer

[@knockhello2604]

Because Morocco is a desert and it's hard to hard electricity and water in such abundance, that it's cheap to manufacture there. Also Morocco isn't very poor, they'll demand a higher wage

[@Homer-OJ-Simpson]

@@knockhello2604 Yeah, I just looked it up. Wages in Morocco are comparable to China but morocco doesn't have natural resources, electricity and water are a problem, etc.

[@HeresMyView]

​@吃货小美女 , 😂😂😂😂 The attraction of China's cheap labor, skillful labor and business acumen are very very strong. The West cannot live without it.

[@davidblair9877]

I’ve long agreed with Macron that the E.U. needs strategic autonomy from the U.S.A., i.e. the ability to set its own foreign policy separate from the U.S.A. This is a perfect example of why. Europe needs to be able to define its own role in America’s Pacific spat with China. As part of that, it needs to secure its supply chains and expand operations in Africa and Latin America in order to avoid another economic and security crisis _a la_ European dependence on Russian fuel. Security is like insurance; it has a cost, and you hope you’ll never need it, but you take it anyway because the consequences of not having it are too serious to risk.

[@Justin_Ebright]

And if such moves resorts to the US leaving NATO? Then what? It wouldn't make much sense for us to stick around if only your interests were being respectively respected.

[@xfactor6099]

@@Justin_Ebright leave NATO pls. Who cares

[@Justin_Ebright]

@@xfactor6099 ah, see the Chinese propaganda army is out in full force. They finally let you out of your cage?

[@freddiemercury2075]

Europe should know better than to be dependent on an enemy, let alone 2.

[@kamsunleong6648]

Chins is not an enemy. They buy more German luxury cars than the rest of the world combined. The same goes for French luxury fashion goods. Would anyone buys so much to support an enemy's economy?

[@mildlydispleased3221]

3:21 You used a silhouette of the Russian coat of arms instead of the German Eagle.

[@andmyAlex]

So Neville Chamberlain is leading the EU now?

[@deepinthewoods8078]

Looks a sensible approach and a good preparation of the multipolar world of the future ...

[@tylermc11795]

“Multipolar world” is just code for Cold War 2 electric boogaloo

[@sabin97]

@@tylermc11795 no. multipolar world is simply a rejection of hegemony, including the current white supremacist hegemony of usakistan and its lackeys.

[@deepinthewoods8078]

@@tylermc11795 Not necessarily. I do expect all 'poles' to maintain a working relationship with each other, but it will definetely be the end of unbridled globalisation...

[@BasicLib]

@@tylermc11795 ikr. People keep coping with the Multipolar BS, but ultimatley we are simply returning to a Bipolar system of two strong alliance structures and a large "neutralist" bloc: The Anglo-American+European alliance with Global Partners (Japan, ROK etc) and the Moscow-Beijing Axis with minor allies like Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, DPRK etc. The Neutrals are the likes of India, Brazil, Indonesia, Much of Africa, Latin America and Asia.

[@deepinthewoods8078]

@@furry_homunculus i do think the same ... China is there to stay as an economic powerhouse, and judging from history, they tend to be less aggressive than the US or Russia ...

[@StCharlos]

“De-risking” but not “de-coupling”, what a good fancy wording from her mouth 😂

[@WeaponOfMyDestructio]

Sounds like when you switch to fuzzy cuffs😂

[@marrs1013]

It's called diplomacy. A hint to show dislike and creating some distance without cutting ties. They get the hint and working on the relationship. Back and forth...

[@1143npatel]

This will be death of Europe’s economic

[@SuperDoggykong]

Why handle other countries when you can't even handle your own country

[@Cellpeg]

It is CPC, not CCP, it is like calling America 'The United America of States'

[@sabin97]

that's a weird way to call my continent. there is more unity among american states now than ever before. but we are still separate states. hopefully the celac will gain more power in the near future.

[@birdyashiro1226]

These monkeys know nothing and started talking about politics😂😂

[@e.t.theextraterristrial837]

The free world needs to coalesce together and trade with each other. Move away from China and invest in India, Malaysia, Mexico and other democratic developing countries. Increased wealth will lead these countries to become more democratic.

[@spritemon98]

Agreed

[@parkgumstef5206]

Yes

[@dxelson]

thats some cold war mentality lmao

[@sethivaltas619]

@@dxelson Firstpost sub? Seems about right

[@joker-pilled5892]

India is the most protectionist tho

[@inuwooddog3027]

It's more sensible to de-risk than decouple. Goals should be specific, achievable and realistic.

[@joriskemper5392]

It makes sense indeed. And it also derisks tradewars..

[@robydragu6705]

EU will do what USA commands, no matters what.

[@beausheffield1895]

As an American I think it's important to point out that Americans do not want war with China any more than the EU does. Both the US and EU have interests in preventing war with China from occurring but disagree on how to go about it. I generally attribute it to the opposite policy stances they took during World War 1 and World War 2. Many Americans believe that the US and the other European powers could've prevented the rise of Nazi Germany if they had been more "hawkish" and prevented Germany from taking Austria or the Sudeten Land. EU on the other hand may have seen the cause for the wars differently, especially with WW1 where the war started because of the assassination of Franz Duke Ferdinand and many nations were forced into the conflict out of obligation for a variety of treaties that had been signed decades prior. I think ultimately it would be best to provide a united front against China and to maintain the boundaries that we have had for the past 70 years; those being that forceful occupation and integration of the nation of Taiwan does not occur. And the peaceful arbitration of the South China Sea dispute between China, Vietnam, The Philippines, Malaysia, and Brunei. The US should also be aware of the reasons for why China has increasingly grown aggressive over these issues and attempt assuage their fears that the US has any intention of violating its own commitments to protect the freedom of navigation for any and all countries and will not use its strategic advantage to blockade China.

[@TheSandkastenverbot]

I think this is a very good compromise. Derisking is still a decoupling, but a cautious and strategic one. While going on as before is too dangerous and left us in a weak position, decoupling too quickly would be an economic thunderstorm with lots of lost jobs and a high inflation rate. On top of that, it's always better to be more agressive de facto while being diplomatic on the outside.

[@MyVinnyp]

I'm afraid the EU doesn't have time for all that nonsense, the EU need decide now whether they are on the side of the US or China, which is it?

[@normanclatcher]

​@@MyVinnyp We already know the answer to that. Let's not rush them if we can help it.

[@MyVinnyp]

@@normanclatcher If we already know the answer the then they need to get on with de -coupling but i bet they won't.

[@aheouo]

I understand your thought. However, though they and their citizens should have to keep self awaring themselves to preventing being China's marionettes.

[@Ilovecruise]

@@aheouo are you sure it’s China but not the US? the whole EU has lost its independence since NATO and prism’s data collection for blackmailing (cough cough GDPR is not enough). Those who stand against US for EU interest, just look at what happened to them. GONE.

[@brettquimby3274]

I think the EU and America are going to have a divergence.

[@peterlast3200]

The EU will get splinters in their arse from sitting on the fence.

[@GeorgeChuy]

Through so vague a word like de-risking, I could well imagine how divided European countries are on China and how uncertain they are about the trajectory would look like.

[@j2174]

Perhaps Europe should also be trading more with countries like Canada. It’s quite inexpensive in certain regions. Same with the US.

[@j2174]

@Jack Smith Not that your reply has anything to do with my comment. “Innocent Chinese” implies multiple Chinese people were jailed - who are those? Hope you’re not referring to the billionaire’s daughter who was allowed to live in her two gigantic Vancouver mansions and go about her business all day long as well. China (actually) jailed several Canadians for no reason but retribution. Like a big, belligerent, screaming child. Ever see Bo from Spirited Away?

[@j2174]

@Jack Smith I love your other comments - “China best nation”, “Taiwan is a part of China “. You are obviously a Chinese troll. You’re not helping your cause.

[@Drunken_Master]

Actually, Chinese authorities treated von der Leyen like trash during the visit, while Macron was treated like royalty in an attemp to sow dissent among the EU.

[@chrisbell238]

Agree. Very disrespectful - wonder if part of masongeny in China as well - Godless culture that abuses its women

[@EllieD.Violet]

Explain.

[@chrisbell238]

@@EllieD.Violet She was not invited to many evants while macron had lavish events. Night of state dinner media siad, she sat in her hotel.

[@EllieD.Violet]

@@chrisbell238 Where was this reported? Paper. Author. Publishing date. Headline.

[@leezhieng]

Everytime they met with von der Leyen she started her speech with topics related to uyghur and taiwan. Why would they invite her over if she has nothing new to say?

[@Victor-wr4fb]

The EU should stay neutral, don’t follow steps of the US and be positioned where they can get the most benefits. In the end the US always think “America first” - no matter the color of the party.

[@poulnrgaard7820]

Absolutely right- EU stay neutral, we begin paying for our own defence and develop our own nuclear umbrella. Not relying on anything from the USA - in short, stand on our own legs for the first time since WW2. I can not wait till we have our own nuclear weapons - 10% of BNP in 20 years, will do the trick...

[@HeresMyView]

You can change the party but cannot change the dirty politics. In China, you cannot change the party but can change the politics. China had undergone continuous political and economic transformations for over 40 yrs since the 1980's. Today's China is entirely different from China 40 yrs ago!! Communism is gone but only the label remains. Most western mentality is stuck to ancient history n remain under a rock.

[@Tpry]

Good new phrase :derisking without decoupling This can be used in dealing with difficult relatives or family members.

[@ja1111112]

Good material

[@f0616ch]

Things just keep going south for the EU, the war, then the manufacturing now leaving to USA and now with china, which will just increase products for the average consumer

[@HenrikVendelbo]

I think Germany has been spectacularly good at undermining the long term strength and future of Europe

[@heinzgassner1057]

More than ever it will be important to differentiate between the CCP and the colorful and divers Chinese society and people (as beautifully colorful and diverse as we are in Europe). Let’s show this carefulness by using the right words, not talking so carelessly about ‘China’ when we actually mean CCP.

[@edwardpi9852]

China will soon fall under the Republic of China (ROC)flag again in Beijing. Not the Jewish established CCP foreign government in Beijing.

[@ZeVexGaming]

I don't think you fully grasp just how steeped in unreality a population is that is completely closed off from the rest of the world's internet, has only one historical and modern narrative to go off of, and is woefully unaware of actual global geopolitics, history, and cultures. The foreign population in China is less than 0.04% and shrinking. If you want to know what Chinese people really think of foreigners, just walk around Beijing a few days and observe how many people stare at you like a zoo animal and make comments about how weird foreigners look (in Mandarin), and how you must be a Russian teacher, regardless if you tell them your nationality or profession. See how fast people pull up their mask in public when they see you, or avoid you completely because they believe all foreigners brought the virus to China (yes that's still going on now). Grab a drink with them and ask them about their opinion on Europe, and see how fast they remark how NATO is aggressively expanding its borders on Russia, and how Russia is saving Ukraine from American imperialism.

[@lost5587]

To be blunt, you're one of the first white guys to raise this point. I appreciate it - people tend to think ccp bad means all Chinese bad

[@ericli2936]

The people is the government. If the ppl dont agree there is no government.

[@edwardpi9852]

@@lost5587 NO ccp means Jewish/Russian founded foreign government. True Chinese government is in the Republic of China.

[@OHHnoYOUdidntMAN]

EU needs to get Mercosur on its side

[@jorgecuevas8843]

Who?

[@dermeisterdesspiegels3518]

@@jorgecuevas8843 the trading bloc from South America (Mercado Común de Sur)

[@kermitthethinker1465]

@@dermeisterdesspiegels3518 Mercosur it's a joke

[@denismorgan9742]

People see this in one way EU dealing China, if the EU are dealing with China then China is dealing with EU this means both sides are compliant on eachother. This is how business relationships are built up, this doesn't require how sweet the language is, it's business first.

[@qd7343]

From this moment, every movement from EU would determined the relationship between EU with China .

[@Puzsek]

Chine needs just more know how on chip tech. Once it happenes, no policy can stop them. This is bitter reality.

[@jeremytrepanier2202]

China and most european country have no future. The future will be in the hands of India, US, Pakistan, Vietnam, Nigeria, Congo, France, Poland, Egypt, Bangladesh and Australia.

[@hsingkao2024]

The best policy is “DO NOT insult your business partners.” Their family matters are theirs, and they don’t get into yours.

[@j.z.5678]

On the flip side America is losing their grip as top dog. China has emerged as a better trade partner and resource for the Middle East, Africa, central and South America. If they were to face this “de-coupling” or whatever they called it China would still be okay.

[@only_fair23]

Not yet but potentially in the future they might be okay

[@MOMOCHU5360]

HOW are people ignoring the organ trafficking, Uyghur oppression, COVID-19 non-compliance, general belligerence, and Taiwan issues?

[@nameTBA]

B-but, cheap stuff! That offsets it all that, right?

[@VS-ig9ut]

Same way they ignore over a million killed in Iraq.

[@chaz4609]

Jai Hinduja. Also Falun gong

[@leezhieng]

How are people ignoring western genocides in Afghnistan, Iraq, Palestine, Syria, Libya?

[@nameTBA]

@@leezhieng The West isn't ignoring those. It is either collaborating with, or perpetrating them themselves. Those countries are not as potentially dangerous as "The Red Dragon" is though.

[@GraniteInTheFace]

Amazing that not only did von der leyen arrive on a separate flight. And she was left behind in Beijing while Macron and Xi went to Guangzhou.

[@thecryingsoul]

I personally hope that we do not take as hawkish of a stance on China as the US does, since that will force us to align with the US even more than we already are. US interests simply do not always align with EU interests. That being said if China does somehow decide to arm Russia, that would be a clear stance against EU interests.

[@energymf1991]

China's 12-point peace initiative is not for others to abide by, but for others to consider. Which ones are acceptable and which ones are unacceptable. That's called negotiation. One-sided agreement with only threats. If the 12 o'clock peace initiative is not acceptable, it can also be rejected. China has never recognized that Crimea and eastern Ukrainian cities belong to Russia. China only united with Russia on the basis of confronting the United States. You have to think about who started the Sino-US confrontation first. As for why Zelensky said that he wanted to meet Xi Jinping, it was for his own life, The voice of the U.S. and European teams supporting Ukraine is gradually decreasing. Think about the end result of the government that the U.S. planted in Afghanistan.

[@martynas9019]

Yeas, agree. Only one winner of Russia Ukraine war its US. Only one winner Taiwan war too. Why EU have to support US dominance when they have trade war against EU. China EU trade is good for the EU.

[@kyx-001]

i hope the israel palestine conflict can be resolved peacefully before it blows up into a full scale conflict

[@bababababababa6124]

Although that has absolutely nothing to do with this video I agree

[@owenlindkvist5355]

It will when Israel gives back all the land they stole.

[@jakubekch.3621]

Tbh the only way that ends peacefully is if Israel or Palestine fall into economic pitfall Let's be real here. Those are 2 super religious countries claiming land based off fantasy books

[@joker-pilled5892]

Not relevent and nobody cares.

[@piebit101]

@@joker-pilled5892 as an israeli i agree, it's such a small conflict and way too much people care about it

[@chew5461]

China is better off strengthening "friendly" economic relations with the Global South, Middle East and Asean. Trading with 2 face racist nations is to be avoided at all times.

[@ReyZar666]

the hardest part about the EU is to balance the agenda of all the countries inside of it,.. which its not easy what so ever, it gets even worst, on time of wars,.. but as long as the leader (Germany n France) keep pushing on 1 direction everyone will have to follow, how ever its the end of the Golden Era, not only for the EU but for the West, the biggest problem was to not know how to deal with the East, and as we can se the East really loves war, and imperialism. They second "Economy" unlike us.

[@zhubajie6940]

I am unaware of the U.S. government using the words "decoupling." Only the media throughout the world and think tanks have used this term. "Extreme competition" is the harshest term I have heard so far from the U.S. government.

[@ckokloong]

Western media is extension of US government. Anyway, its not what US say. It is what US do which is important.

[@JunkieOfJunk]

Rhetorics don’t matter.

[@ron88303]

@@JunkieOfJunk Only time will tell.

[@andrewemerson1613]

the US isn't quite decoupling, as trade can have a stabilizing effect (when all parties are acting rationally) but it is making an active point to limit the kinds of trade it does with China, while actively reducing their capacity to compete with it in key sectors. basically trying to make itself non-dependant on China while making it easier for it's more aligned praters to do the same by providing alternatives

[@tylermc11795]

Yeah I think the US is just shifting its “free trade” promotion of the last 30 years into more protectionism aimed at China for a few reasons. 1. China never signed on to the rules of free trade in the first place, from stealing technology, disregarding ip and overly subsidizing strategic goods in complex supply chains to create market dominance. 2. Like the video mentioned, in light of a more aggressive ccp, they need to avoid catastrophic military and economic supply chain disruptions