The Everest Discrepancy

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[@Joshua-by2mp]

No.

[@DankDungeon]

This comment goes hard, may I screenshot?

[@qhat2637]

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[@Mr_Fancypants]

No thank u

[@I_Hate_Youtube_Handles]

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[@freedfg6694]

The 20s were fucking wild. People literally were like "what should I wear to climb a mountain that you can literally not breath at the top and is perpetually snowed over?" A sports jacket and oxfords. Don't forget your tie.

[@aoe9015]

you forgot the 2 bottles of scotch

[@viciouslysilent]

@@aoe9015 don't even have to put it on the rocks, you can get it straight from the mountain 👌🏾 Edit: Make that 3 bottles of scotch. Amigos always comes in 3s

[@clydearnold1931]

Don’t forget your hat!

[@UmamiPapi]

The current 20's are also quite wild. Dissimilar maybe, but nonetheless wild.

[@shromp2034]

i aspire to be this spontaneous in everyday life

[@infinitemausoleum721]

What's interesting is that Everest is still growing, by a few centimeters a year. It's the result of an entire tectonic plate being forced up. The first person to climb everest may have done it first, but the last person to climb it will have climbed the highest.

[@benzodiazepeen]

It is interesting, ain’t it? Fucking beautiful all around man.

[@hankthetank8039]

But the last person would have definitely had an easier time getting to the top of Mt. Everest than the first due to a more consistent route and better-equipped technology.

[@benjiposey5453]

Well if it’s just a few centimeters each year, I feel like if I just jump pretty high at the top, I’d have the record for a while

[@Oscar97o]

@@BS-cz6tw You... don't believe in tectonic plates?

[@PozzaPizz]

@@BS-cz6tw wait what? So what are earthquakes?

[@asdfreii]

When I was a teenager in the early 2000s I provided care services for an elderly man who was a Mallory theorist. He was around 12 when Mallory’s final ascent happened. He had all sorts of information on Mallory, and it was fascinating. But he always said “Mallory may have reached the summit first, but Hillary was the first to reach the summit and return, so he deserves the accolades”. He was clear that his obsession with Mallory was because he saw something inspirational and tragic in Mallory’s own obsession with summiting Everest, not to take away from Hillary.

[@PointNemo9]

Actually I disagree with him, Mallory should deserve the accolades.

[@alexanderthegreat1270]

@@PointNemo9 Why? Regardless of whether Mallory made it to the top, he didn’t make it back. Hillary summited and returned. In my mind, there’s too much debate to hand accolades to a dead man.

[@PointNemo9]

​@alexanderthegreat1270 I mean if it was somehow proven that Mallory did indeed summit then he would deserve the credit of being the first man to summit Everest.

[@omnipotentbanana1576]

@@alexanderthegreat1270 I agree with you

[@DennisFromRLM]

@@alexanderthegreat1270 I think of it like the Victoria Cross and Medal of Honor. Most people die in the act of earning those awards. But they dont discount them because of that

[@shoto42]

As a person who’s summited two mountains(I.e. Kings mountain and an attempt on St. Hellens) that summit fever is no joke. There were times while climbing where my entire thought process was on that single point. When I was trying to summit St. Hellens suffering from Oxygen sickness and blisters all over my feet from the shoes that weren’t properly fitted to my feet, I still wanted to get to the top more than anything. It was only until I was falling over several times and struggling to get off my knees about 2,000 feet from the summit when my guide pulled me aside and asked if I thought I was well enough to this. I almost answered yes in spite of my current problems and my drive to get to the top but begrudgingly answered no(not towards my guide but towards my inability to summit the mountain). So glad I did though, and plan to summit that mountain someday. I know this isn’t nearly what the guys on Everest are dealing with but thought I would put into perspective how alluring the top of a mountain can be and how I sorta understand what was going through Mallory’s head when wanting get to the top.

[@Badficwriter]

Some divers were talking about oxygen deprivation effects at certain depths and how you had to train to deal with it. Its like at a certain point, you lose flexibility in your thoughts and simple novel solutions become impossible to think of, so people fall back on training they are already familiar with, even if its not the best option. Perhaps this is why "get to the top of the mountain" becomes the only thought climbers can think after oxygen deprivation sets in.

[@hankhohn5017]

You needed a guide for Mount St Helens?

[@angelikaskoroszyn8495]

@hankhohn5017 You know you can get a giude even for relatively "small" mountains? It's especially a good idea when you know you're not experienced enough to go alone

[@Nylak-Otter]

I work SAR and I'm familiar with folks who have that bizarre drive. I didn't get it at first, but then I kind of realized that my own drive for a find (and the same with my search K9s, who are all pit bulls or mixes with intense terrier drives rather than shepherds due to their sheer ability to clear vertical spaces) was comparable. "Get to the target" is the only goal at a certain point. It's part of the reason that I now specialize in human remains detection and recovery, and I almost exclusively train combined live tracking and cadaver detection dogs. You're not calling us off just because it's obvious that the target isn't alive anymore. My search partner stops when the live track does, so I never really get mired into something like a suicidal feedback loop that some climbers or hikers do, though.

[@shoto42]

@@Nylak-Otter Dude, that’s freakin sick actually, I’m wanting to go into FAR soon so that just really cool that you’re in that line of work.

[@rex-1141]

7:54 Mallory: "Oxygen is a necessity to reach the summit" Also Mallory: smoking a fat cigar immediately before attempting to climb the mountain

[@realcheez795]

well, the doctors said its healthy

[@dogguy8603]

Rinehold Messner "what oxygen?"

[@sandwichboy1268]

You don't inhale cigar smoke mate

[@frog8220]

@@dogguy8603 it’s what people use in their lungs who’s ego isn’t big enough to fill them up. Not looking at anyone named Reinhold in particular…

[@Penglish56]

@@sandwichboy1268 well, you're not supposed to anyways lol

[@gamerfreak5665]

Dude, George Mallory II climbed Everest and walked past his own dead grandpa's frozen body without even knowing it, shit.

[@TheGabe92]

He probably suspected or assumed it, but spooky nonetheless.

[@lossnt557]

Why would he not know it

[@mannmctrash]

@@lossnt557 He knew his body was likely there, I think the original comment's point was he could've literally walked right past his corpse without noticing.

[@lossnt557]

@@mannmctrash ohh, yeah my bad i guess that is probably what he meant

[@gamerfreak5665]

@@mannmctrash Yeah that's what I meant, thanks.

[@Psyopcyclops]

I “love” how the sherpas always get overlooked as if they’re not doing the same thing, or as if they’re just animals that are carrying supplies.

[@josm1481]

Does your hotel staff get acknowledgements after every vacation? They are paid to do the job. Brave, hard work but they are paid. And Norgay very much got credit.

[@JayR-wg9jq]

even in this video they only get mentioned as pack mules lol

[@andrewcapra7153]

Love how Mallory got a bunch of them killed and it wad barely a footnote in the video

[@JayR-wg9jq]

@@andrewcapra7153 RIGHT

[@scottwillie6389]

@@JayR-wg9jq Because back then that is what they were. Today the Nepalese organize and embark on important climbs themselves (for example the first ever winter summit of K2 in 2021), but back then they did not. The European will was the driving factor in conquering Everest and the Nepalese back then were just hired hands along for the ride.

[@KarlRock]

Thanks for the interesting story! The Sherpas definitely deserve the credit too.

[@AuRennes.z2]

karl youre the best

[@picahudsoniaunflocked5426]

May the 7 buried alive be journeying well.

[@traceywoodbridge3396]

8300 Sherpas. Probably more. Are registered to have climbed to the Summit of Everest.

[@g.w.k.y6869]

They literally keep most mountaineers alive

[@androgynousmaggot9389]

​@traceywoodbridge3396 1856 Nepalese have reached the summit! The most of everyone! But definitely not 8k!

[@MapleMilk]

Mallory and Irving's last sighting being for a few minutes as the clouds were parting is kinda beautiful in a way I kinda want the evidence to point to them reaching the summit

[@kimjunguny]

my question is even if they had been able to make it passed the 3rd step, could they have reached the summit in dense fog/cloud cover.

[@squawmous]

I like to believe that at least one of them made it. It would be sweet to remember them being victorious in death rather than one of the many lives taken while hoping to conquer the mountain

[@xeraphyx7903]

​@@squawmous This could be a good idea for a potential movie, called something like "Grory in the mist" which romanticises the first failed expedition, and the final moments of George Mallory on the top of the summit, accompanied with dramatic music, with the clouds breaking, unraveling the sun, for him to briefly announce his victory to the heavens, before dropping unconciouis into the valley below, dissapearing beyond the mist.

[@tooleyheadbang4239]

@@xeraphyx7903 With James Cagney playing Mallory...

[@badbeardbill9956]

@@kimjungunyWell, if you check out Michael Tracy’s videos on the subject, he makes a great case that they had nearly ideal conditions. He also investigates Odell’s sighting, and finds that Odell’s testimony is more consistent with him seeing them at the Third Step. Tracy also digs into Mallory’s own writings on his preferred route, and they are much more consistent with Mallory and Irvine being sighted at the Third Step. I think Michael Tracy makes a great case that their chances of making it are decidedly less slim than once thought, if not the most likely outcome.

[@WobblesandBean]

It's astounding to me that climbing this thing means you are literally in a race against your own death.

[@Yora21]

Compared to other mountains in the area, Everest is relatively easy. Especially with all the infrastructure in place now. On Annapurna, one in three climbers dies in the process.

[@laurenmp7486]

That's the historical rate, but over the last 20 years the fatality rate on Annapurna has gone well down. Partly because there's more info on where not to go on the mountain no matter how tempting it might be.

[@tonyramirez5707]

If you think about it, that's just life.

[@t_ylr]

Like is it even worth it lol? I know everybody who's climbed it thinks so, but we can't even ask the people who died along he way :/

[@klodd5328]

@@Yora21 you got it wrong, I think it's the stat for deaths Vs successful summits. So one person dies for every three that reach the summit and get back down healthy again

[@E3arth]

Recently a Nepalese Soldier and expert climber Nirmal Purja managed to climb 14 of the 8000m + mountains of the world in 7 months and set a new world record. He climbed K2 which is the second highest mountain in the world in winter without supplimental oxygen. Talk about being a badass. He's getting a documentary in Netflix soon about the climbs. Made the whole country proud. What a lad!

[@UmamiPapi]

Being Nepalese he has genetic advantages. I've heard before they have traits suited for high elevation.

[@ob9803]

His name is nimsdai? I think the documentary is out now

[@ob9803]

My bad it’s out 29 November

[@michaelhunter4891]

Jai Nepal

[@SavouryLobster]

@A Shut up.

[@joejeanes4394]

Respect to Edward Norton for being able to return from Everest and continuing his acting career

[@Madeleinewith3Es]

We don't talk about Everest club

[@LindaStoronsky-yk4df]

Wrong ed norton

[@no-barknoonan1335]

​@@Madeleinewith3EsHis name, was George Mallory.

[@SteRDLK]

@@LindaStoronsky-yk4df yeah no shit Linda

[@EthanWithACrowbar]

this reminded me a lot of the race for the south pole in 1911/12, Amundsen vs Scott. after months of hard trekking over the antarctic tundra, Scott reached the pole, only to find a note left by Amundsen dated to reflect that they were about a month too late. Scott and his party died on the trek back, and Scott himself managed to maintain a journal up until his final moments. a chilling and cosmically tragic story.. ngl i'm interested in how Emp would tell it.

[@cazred7882]

im unfamiliar with this story, did amundsen die as well?

[@EthanWithACrowbar]

@@cazred7882 Amundsen and his party were fine, but Scott's whole expedition was wiped-out. Only a few weeks shy of each other... Another lil factoid, Amundsen was originally planning an expedition to the North Pole, but re-routed his plans towards the South Pole after learning Robert Edwin Peary's team was on-track to reach the NP first. This lead to him effectively hijacking Scott's window of opportunity/ glory to reach the SP and turning it into a race of sorts.

[@Robutube1]

@@EthanWithACrowbar ...and the irony of Amundsen's change of heart is that Peary fabricated his successful reaching of the North Pole. A good book on this is "Great Polar Fraud: Cook, Peary, and Byrd: How Three American Heroes Duped the World into Thinking They Had Reached the North Pole" by Anthony Galvin. Heck of a title, heck of a book.

[@bethanybrookes8479]

​​@@cazred7882 amunsden was well prepared, we wore furs and brought huskies, to deal with the cold. he knew hoe to deal with the climate there better due to spending time with people living in colder places to study how they dealt with the cold. Scott went in woollen outfits, with horses, believing that the tight stitches would be sufficient to keep the cold out. sure, that works in British fishing boats around the coast, but not in the Antarctic. but Scott was a bit stupidly proud of being British. and his horses, unable to deal with the cold, died along the way.

[@warlordofbritannia]

@@Robutube1 Hang on, the idea is that they outright faked having reached the North Pole? I mean, I’ve heard that they thought they had reached the ultimate point but were off by a few degrees; not that they knowingly lied? (Edit: I’m referring primarily to Byrd and Peary)

[@Robutube1]

Cards on the table - I would love that Mallory and Irving DID summit. However, Edmund Hilary put it well when he said (I paraphrase) "Surely a key attribute of a successful summit attempt is to return alive".

[@samaiello7543]

Couldn’t have said it better if I tried, very well put. I couldn’t quite think of the right words, but you’ve nailed it on the head there.

[@Fullchristainname]

Same. You gotta survive it to be first (also summoning is only half the work. Sometimes Less, since it’s often more difficult going down the mountain.)

[@TheHeadincharge]

Even still, there’s just no way that Mallory could have ascended to the summit and ended up at the place he died, something that wasn’t discussed. Based on their time schedule and the storm, there’s absolutely no way they could have made it down there.

[@jondoc7525]

They definitely made it but that storm prolly hit -100 degrees they went in a cave and never left .

[@Lord_Thistlewick_Flanders]

@@TheHeadincharge Actually I find it just the opposite. If they simply turned around near the first step they had eons of time and no obstacles to overcome to return to high camp. The fact they died and Mallory was found where he was with no snow goggles suggests he was descending very late and it was either exhaustion or lack of light that caused the fall.

[@lfraser7128]

As long as the camera wasn’t broken open by the environment, the extreme cold and dryness of the mountain would actually make the film last longer.

[@FreedomIII]

That was my thought, too. Heat and moisture make things degrade, both of which are notably absent anywhere near Everest.

[@Malkovith2]

But also sun's radiation is stronger there

[@timfischer8165]

as long as you dont burn, being submerged in lava is actually quite warm

[@Bear333-o9n]

Time travels faster at altitude.

[@majinnemesis]

@@Bear333-o9n time also travels slower near something with a big mass and everest has a big mass

[@Emily-ex3ps]

The fact that Irvine had the camera in the end is enough proof for me. I’d put money on the idea that Mallory handed it to him at the summit and told him to take a picture to document Mallory’s successful summit. The proof is with Irvine, wherever he is.

[@anshuuu9708]

Imagine if someday, somehow someone finds the body and the camera, and we have the footage, the whole history will be re-written, going to cause hella turbulence in mountaineering world

[@Scriv17]

You think Irvine held onto the camera after falling a thousand meters? The idea that Mallory handed it to him seems far fetched as opposed to the idea that he lost it after the fact that he fell off the mountain

[@ghostrangerz8273]

Didn’t the Chinese recover the camera but claim the film was gone? I think they almost certainly destroyed the film once it showed they had summited because it would rob China of being the first to make it that route.

[@lf67hh28]

There is strong evidence to suggest the Chinese removed the camera and the body. Given it has a huge political impact on the North Face

[@Idekreally]

@@munnjeanlmao why would anyone put money on it? Dumb comment

[@kormagogthedestroyer]

Fun fact about Mount Everest: When the first measurements of Mount Everest were taken by British surveyors, they found that Everest was exactly 29,000 feet tall. They were concerned that no one would believe that the highest mountain in the world would be such a round number, so they added 2 extra feet. And for decades after, it was taught that Mount Everest was 29,002 feet tall

[@brutusthebear9050]

Yup, they were the first to put their two feet on Everest.

[@pian-0g445]

It’s also kinda funny how the mountain is actually growing millimetre by millimetre every few years cause of the tectonic places below it pushing magma upwards.

[@brutusthebear9050]

@@pian-0g445 unconfirmed. There seems several theories

[@seronymus]

Is there Biblical significance to the number 29 🤔

[@Jin-1337]

@@pian-0g445 SCP

[@hargunchd]

Just want to point out that Edmund Hillary AND Tenzing Norgay were jointly the first ones to climb Mount Everest. It is important to mention this as Tenzing is so often overlooked.

[@margueriteshadowsea6568]

was looking for that comment. its so sad to see that non-western climbers still barely get recognized

[@ineednochannelyoutube5384]

@@margueriteshadowsea6568 Dunno. It was always mentioned here in hungary as Hillary and Tenzing.

[@heirofaniu]

@@margueriteshadowsea6568 I was actually taught that Tenzig was the first to physically reach the top but Hillary got the credit for organizing the expedition, and that was in an American school.

[@cricketnerdnz3588]

@@ineednochannelyoutube5384 yeah same here in New Zealand he was not overlooked at all but guess that's just from our perspective

[@johnoregan4221]

Neither Hillary nor Norway ever revealed which one was first.

[@microsoftpain]

I think it's absolutely crazy that Mallory's body was finally discovered after being missing for 75 years.

[@Trippsy05]

If this interests you, you should look into Otzi the ice man. If memory serves me right, he was found preserved in ice with tools and clothing. Really interesting stuff.

[@tedkaczynski3126]

@@Trippsy05 really crazy to think that woolly mammoths were still around at the time of otzis death

[@Trippsy05]

@B O ꓭ You should know the risks of the comment section before finishing the video bro.

[@microsoftpain]

​@B O ꓭ u can just google his name, and the fact that this has been public information for like 20+ years now

[@OPEK.]

@B O ꓭ why the fuck are you reading comments while watching and not expecting “spoilers”

[@stoptfg295]

There's only one event I can think of that would've compelled Mallory to stop and give Irvine the camera.

[@deleetiusproductions3497]

what are you implying

[@michaelterrell5061]

@@deleetiusproductions3497Yeah, because now I’m interested.

[@FullPwned]

He is implying he gave the camera to Irvine, so he can take a picture of Mallory posing at the summit

[@minime453]

dying?

[@rickwrites2612]

Yea if Mallory made summit and wanted photo taken

[@starblinds]

When I was 10 I had an obsession with Everest purely because of how eerie and dangerous it was. I read 2 books on Mallory, never thought I’d hear someone speak about him, glad to see you did. May him and his team Rest In Peace.

[@ryan_d.v]

Your name isn't Carter is it

[@starblinds]

@@ryan_d.v Luckily not lol, I’m female

[@retrovi4128]

You never thought someone would speak about Mallory? Huh?

[@starblinds]

@@retrovi4128 I never thought a big KZbin channel would share his story.

[@ryan_d.v]

@@starblinds was about to say, there was a kid I went to elementary with that I always remember had an intense obsession with My Everest

[@Draggo_]

Mallory after condeming 7 people to death: "I have made a severe, and continuous, lapse in my judgement,"

[@AliceYobby]

@@sg-yq8pm except the sherpas literally didn’t have the option of saying no

[@ComedyLoverGirl]

At least Mallory did not laugh at their corpses.

[@honeyduchess]

Living for the Logan Paul reference 💀

[@sch1zocentral]

@@sg-yq8pm ops post is a meme and u reply 3 months later saying "achhktuallyyyy these slaves had a choice"

[@Ibnboulos]

​@@sch1zocentraldamn I wish I could of seen those horrendous comments:(

[@Huggbees]

Haven't watched it yet, but I've got a good feeling you'll be talking a lot about trash and corpses, Everest's main imports.

[@rydz656]

You can even pay the locals to kiss each other, it's sickening.

[@toms4888]

cringe

[@chaimeu]

Ay andrew

[@OinkBalloon]

I was literally just watching you.... Huh

[@phineasfacingforward3460]

My two favorite things

[@jwil4286]

Another interesting tidbit: Mt. Rainier, which is often seen as a preparation mountain for people who wish to climb Everest, was actually first summitted right after the American Civil War by veterans of that same war, similar to how George Mallory was a WWI veteran.

[@bluxbrry]

Wow I live right next to Mt Rainier! Didn’t know that.

[@Popsickle24680]

Due to the commercialization of Everest climbing, there's this popular mindset that climbing it is pretty easy. As this guy put it "Everest has become so foolproof that practically anyone in good health with $50,000 and a few weeks to spare can reach the top of the tallest mountain in the world." It is not easy. I haven't climbed it myself but I've been obsessing over it for the past month or so and watched enough documentaries to get a decent idea of what it's like. It is not easy. Not even close. And it certainly isn't foolproof. Many, many people have died to Everest, at least a few every year. Yes, even with the fixed rope. Every person who has climbed it, from the rich with not much else to do with their time, to the most experienced mountaineers, to the sherpas themselves, have described it as one of the most grueling, intense, demanding, exhausting, and terrifying experiences of their lives. The lack of oxygen makes every step a battle, even with supplementary oxygen. The traffic on Everest has even made it tougher, because climbers are forced to stand still, wasting precious oxygen while simultaneously freezing to death. Even the sherpas are scared for their lives every year they climb, and many fail to summit it in their first few attempts. Those who think they're in for easy bragging rights typically end up failing and turning back, forced to re-attempt it when they're actually physically and mentally prepared. Never let the commercialization and popularization of Everest fool you into believing it's easy. It is easily one of the hardest and most dangerous things a human can do.

[@poutinedream5066]

Yeah fuck Everest. They need to leave that shit alone for real. I talk shit about all the cheaters they've installed to ensure that people continue to summit, continue to pay. That does not mean I can do it. If they install a staircase running from base to summit, I couldn't do it 🤣

[@joshingtonbarthsworth631]

It's still dumb as fuck. Lol.

[@Lumberjack_king]

Lol it may be hard but it's still stupid how we commercialize everything

[@olzhas1one755]

I've also heard somewhere that in some places the bodies of the climbers that died are still left there untouched. I'm sure that doesn't help make Everest any more welcoming

[@ScottishAnnie]

@@olzhas1one755 there are over 200 😮 the photos are quite haunting of some , Its dangerous to try stop and help someone never mind recover a body. Some sad & shocking stories. Seems many die of exhaustion on descent or altitude sickness. Would love to be be at top looking out but not a challenge I would ever dream of.

[@zainejackson8869]

Fascinating that Mallory’s body wasn’t found until 1999.

[@CK-nh7sv]

The mountain is huge. Irvine may have been spotted but his body hasn't been found yet.

[@drowningin]

They are going up there as quick as possible, and turning around. Not digging around looking what's under snow. The dead are actual landmarks

[@matthewbrotman2907]

Mallory climbed up the north (Tibet) side. For many years, non-Chinese were not allowed on that side. Most ascents come up the south (Nepal) side.

[@dominicseanmccann6300]

He might just've thawed out by now. Why climb Everest? Because it's there! Respect.

[@brandonbentley5453]

In almost plain sight I guess...I have not climbed Everest but my wealthy uncle uncle years ago before it was an extreme tourist destination. He said it had many bodies(this was in the late 70s early 80s) at certain points. There was old air canisters and equipment. He said some equipment was quite nice but that he wasn't prepared to steal from the dead. Odd how circumstances effect how people react to the same things differently.

[@1celtickiwi]

I knew Ed personally, I asked him "if Mallory was the first to climb Everest" how would you feel?. He said "if he was the first, I would be happy for history to be re-writen".

[@macaroni262]

This is a fantastic insight! May I ask how you knew Him?

[@troodon1096]

Hilary would still have been the first to summit and successfully return, so he would still have a milestone to be remembered for.

[@jgirlLVR]

But then Hillary Clinton would have to change her name to Mallory Clinton.

[@StudioHannah]

He’d still be the first person who got to the peak AND came back alive!

[@jffry890]

​@@StudioHannah Which is honestly the only way it should be counted. Any dipshit can make a break for the peak with minimal preparation just to be the first one to reach it with no intention of coming back alive. If you die in the attempt, it's a failure no matter what. We could have launched people into space free willy or rocket them directly into the moon with no intention of bringing them home much more quickly and easily than trying to bring them back alive. If Neil and Buzz died in the attempt, sure they might have been "first" but it would still be considered a failed attempt and disaster.

[@xJester23]

I only thought I liked Edward Norton in rounders but to hear about his expeditions from before he was even born truly shows his range as an actor

[@oshwaflz]

i had to scroll way too fucking long to find an edward norton comment

[@kaninekodiak]

That part about George Mallory II made me smile. I like to imagine the original George is in the afterlife now and likes to bring that little tidbit up in conversation whenever he can. "My grandson conquered Everest, you know!"

[@teranokitty]

When that part came up, I thought it was going to be about a guy who conquered Everest in a t-shirt.

[@jmaster2855]

Made me a lil' watery-eyed, honestly. Makes me wish he could've either lived to see him make what he wasn't able to, see his kin reach it too, or do it alongside him. FWI, I'm surprised Emp didn't mention that his grandson ended up leaving a picture of his grandparents at the summit, as George originally sought to do.

[@ScamboliReviews]

I legit think you have a dartboard of random shit, and you just make videos based on where the dart lands and it's somehow always interesting

[@Sayquidnidly]

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[@brosisjk3993]

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@@brosisjk3993 so you do a lot of reading yourself? Or do you just make fun of other people for reading books they like? This was a nice thread before you decided to attack the only people present

[@brosisjk3993]

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[@brosisjk3993]

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[@RidiculousCake]

I half expected you to actually be at Iron Mountain in lakes wales FL, which is the highest point in Florida.

[@davifelizardo4187]

You were half right kkkkkk

[@Brent-jj6qi]

Its huge though, its a staggering 345 feet

[@flowerface9011]

I grew up in SW Florida and we had one hill in my city. It was called Indian Hill because it was where the Calusa buried their dead long ago. Naturally people built million dollar homes on top of it, which is a poor decision if you've ever read any Stephen King books.

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[@davidjohnson6087]

@@jackrookes3547 this is the funniest reply i’ve ever read with my own two hands

[@suomeaboo]

they actually found sandy irvine's boot, that's amazing

[@TaranVH]

Amateur. The snorkel was pointed upwards, drawing in even THINNER air. Had you pointed it downwards, you'd have had an easier time.

[@AxxLAfriku]

You dislike the stuff that gets uploaded by my fingers clicking upload? Are you just a h8er boi? I say see you l8er, boi. Don't watch the stuff that gets uploaded by my fingers clicking upload anymore. Your dislikes are damaging my good good GOOD reputation. I am a superstar, dear taran

[@loser5486]

what

[@eddydrouet1888]

Get his ass Taran!

[@ALRinaldi]

It is Florida; he might have drowned!

[@zohairahmed8891]

@@loser5486 Air gets thinner the higher up you go, if you pointed your snorkel downwards you'd be breathing in slightly thicker air than if you pointed up at the top lmao

[@Cyranek]

mt everest was the first strand type game

[@rachard]

Damn rite

[@Largeman567]

Your goddamn right

[@FourthDerivative]

Genius Kojumbo strikes again

[@agenta6432]

Shoulda used the moterbike to get to the summit

[@YAHOOISNOTG]

@@rachard Think I’m shadow banned I’m I ?

[@SNOWSOS]

It's scary to think about what it's like to be the first person. You're doing something NO ONE HAS EVER ACCOMPLISHED, it might not even seem possible yet I see the allure of wanting to cement your place in history.

[@flipflopski2951]

There are lots of things nobody has ever done because doing them would be the height of stupidity. Including climbing Everest.

[@nortiusmaximus1789]

I came to the conclusion that I was not meant for heroic FIRST-evers. I downscaled to first in my family line. That has been quite successful!

[@brainhakker7133]

It's why I miss High School so terribly >_

[@ano_nym]

@@flipflopski2951 "That's why no one will remember your name."

[@TheNikito34z]

i shuffle cards

[@dirtytreerat14]

Here after Sandy Irvine’s boot was found

[@TokyoSamurai-fb6or]

Same. Saw the news on my gram feed

[@whetbeaver9563]

@@TokyoSamurai-fb6or I hope he posts a downward diary about it

[@kevinsandstrom5833]

That makes me so excited, I only got into this subject like a week before they found it so im absolutely ecstatic, I hope they find the rest of him soon

[@bananacat3109]

it’s impossible to predict the videos on this channel and that’s a reason why this is my favorite channel. High quality videos on random topics that leave you with a philosophical mind

[@coolsplooge4355]

Like cgp grey

[@poke7661]

like jan misali

[@bananacat3109]

both of the responses to this are people i watch

[@bananacat3109]

Poké welcome to conlang critic, the show the gets facts wrong about YOUR favorite conlangs

[@bananacat3109]

mr freakout i’m 15 ok i can speak more verbosely but i think it would be a bad idea

[@laurenmp7486]

The cruel irony is Mallory's body was found 300 horizontal meters, about 1,000 feet, from camp VI, the last camp he and Irvine stayed at. And roughly the altitude and given the injuries he had, he didn't fall far, he likely wasn't more than an hour from camp VI when he fell.

[@notjosh_dun8386]

I don’t think the camps would’ve been set up yet, he was the first after all

[@nn-kj3me]

@@notjosh_dun8386 they had 6 camps established. 6th camp is what he is referring to , they started the climb from there and was planning to return there. Even now the same technique of establishing the camps is followed, 4 instead of 6

[@andrewtownend4511]

When they found his watch the time was 1:25 he could possibly of reached the top and died on the descent in the dark.

[@josm1481]

Very true. He was sadly not far from possible survival. Not sure if the camp had a cache of oxygen and food though.

[@josm1481]

@@andrewtownend4511 I stick with Odell's story and view. He did make it. Odell was very clear. They were only 400m from the top, they'd cleared all the main obstacles and going strong in unusually good weather. Odell predicted the latest they'd summit was 4pm, the very latest anybody wants to summit because of the weather change. Odell always said he was sure they made it. However, something like 90% die on the way down.

[@pizazzpizazzpizazz1]

“The Everest Discrepancy” sounds like a dang Hitman escalation

[@thegreengribbler]

good evening agent 47. today we want you to climb mount everest,

[@zoeprice4581]

@@thegreengribbler Hokkaido but it’s Everest

[@davesmith5656]

If they searched pockets for a camera, and had found rocks, we'd have heard of it. (Signed, "Wet Blanket, Excuse for Colombo".)

[@criteecgaming]

I was thinking an early 2000's emo band.

[@dominicseanmccann6300]

Or a Robert Ludlum novel.

[@somehalonerd1176]

Mallory was actually overestimated in terms of how good of a climber he was because they failed to account for the weight of his enormous balls.

[@ulture]

underestimated

[@singingbowels]

Weren’t his balls carried by porters?

[@TheBlakeGG]

emplemon really is the only dude pump out banger after banger about relatively inconsequential topics that are remarkably interesting

[@JustAnotherAlex3D]

It's the editing and the unique voice

[@whymeohgodwhy9137]

very original insight there bud

[@somebonehead]

@@whymeohgodwhy9137 You're worse than the checkmarks

[@ethansprague2005]

@@whymeohgodwhy9137 your literally helping him by commenting lol

[@SJNaka101]

I recently stumbled on Nick Robinson's channel, who tells ridiculously excellent stories about stupid internet meme shit. He recently had an interview with Scott from Domino's Pizza (have you heard of Hatsune Miku?), and the entire saga is stupidly compelling

[@AImpatientMan]

Plot twist:irvin made it to the top and was accepted by the gods for his courage and that's why we can't find him

[@Lunamana]

Hey its good to see you here o/

[@heronoverdose]

Aha fuck sake I was thinking this same joke

[@ghoulbuster1]

He was the chosen one.

[@ouioui4136]

Stuff like this makes it even more incredible that Tibetans can live in places like the Tibetan plateau and sherpas just casually haul supplies between camps. Whether it’s conditioning from birth or genetic adaptation or both they’re just built different.

[@FreedomIII]

There's something to be said for doing a thing for a good chunk of your life. The human body, as fragile as it is, can adapt quite a bit over the years, even without genetic or cultural adaptations to help.

[@semoremo9548]

Not 100% sure if it's the same for these sherpas at the Everest, but I would imagine that it's the same situation as traditional communities that have lived at the Andes for centuries. They have been found to have greater lung capacity and a higher red blood cell count, making it so they can inhale more air with each breath, and also carry more oxygen to their cells with each of those breaths. I think I also heard that when these people move to live somewhere closer to sea level they eventually lose a bit of these adaptations, although probably not significant enough that they would end up with the characteristics of someone born there. So my guess is that they are born with this adaptation already in place, and then naturally if they continue to live there and they climb for a living, they may also gain some slight additional advantages.

[@jakestablettableto9453]

​@@semoremo9548never been a single bit of evidence towards "evolution" its always adaptation, you pretty much nailed it 👍

[@badgoogle4509]

@@jakestablettableto9453 so over many generations people adapted to their environment and the more successful adapters were more likely to survive and thus carry offspring with similar adaptations?

[@jakestablettableto9453]

@@badgoogle4509 tell yourself whatever you like, couldn't care less

[@braxtonprichard7106]

My scout leader climbed Everest and it really put into perspective how difficult it really is. He did 14ers with 100 pounds on his back with ease. He did 14ers three times a week for almost a year in preparation for Everest. And he said it was the most difficult thing he’s ever done. He was a big help at Philmont

[@silliercrayon9588]

14ers?

[@dannycork423]

@@silliercrayon9588 I'm assuming he means 14,000 ft peaks

[@commodoreluigi1596]

what a fuckin chad

[@caroline6218]

Carrying 100 pounds? Damn what a legend.

[@coleschaefer6016]

Jeez, that's impressive. We didn't even summit Baldy with packs and that was still a big challenge.

[@chrisgriffin7357]

Fighting at the meat grinder known as the Somme wasn't enough excitement for one life for Mallory. You must admire the balls of that man.

[@mrreyes5004]

Agreed. Whether or not Mallory and Irvine made it to the summit, they have my undying respect for having the near-unrivalled courage and aspirations to do what nobody else at the time had done. Goodness knows I wouldn't have the spine or fortitude to even think about entertaining that course of action.

[@senorpepper3405]

Creeping barrage

[@zonkedmc]

You and I just heard that he killed 7 sherpas. No I must not.

[@herbthompson8937]

​@@zonkedmche didn't kill 7 sherpas jackass. He may have been responsible for their lives. That's a HUGE difference

[@JoshSweetvale]

​@@zonkedmcNow there's an officer fit for the Somme! Over the top, now!

[@MegaCygnusX1]

EmpLemon: "At 29000 feet, air pressure is three times lower than at sea level meaning that climbers have access to only one third as much oxygen." Mallory: *Imma smoke my pipe.*

[@Xer405]

Gigachad

[@Ramsey276one]

PRO GAMER MOVE XD

[@McCoy-00]

@@Ramsey276one YEAAAAAA kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmSld4iLjZqehdE

[@Slender_Man_186]

*the nicotine shall suffice.*

[@Ramsey276one]

@@McCoy-00 Nice! # New PC goals XD

[@twizzanator4937]

THEY JUST FOUND IRVINES FOOT!!!!!

[@Venmaylove]

I wonder if there's any fluffy cats capable of reaching the summit. Could cats lungs be more powerful in terms of oxygen level adaptation. A Norwegian forest cat

[@WeltgeistYT]

"Because it's there" is such a succinct expression of the human will. This was a great video, even the ad.

[@seronymus]

It's more of a white people tuning tbh. Remember the Book of Genesis, "God shall expand Japheth"?

[@charlesfaure1189]

It sounds so much better than "because I'm fukkin crazy and I don't care who else gets killed as long as I get there."

[@MilkDrinker218]

It’s an amazing thing, really. We do things not because we should do it, but because we can do it.

[@AimlessSavant]

Seeing the photos of Mallory face down in the rocks was brutal. His gear sheered from his bleached white skin. His body in places looking to have the quality of broken porcelain. Hollow, and brittle.

[@TheKillerham5ter]

It’s wild to think that they made that climb with such inferior gear compared to modern times as well, having no idea of what or who would come after.

[@MedroffYT]

@@TheKillerham5ter I bet they were cold 🥶

[@Zarnubius]

looked those photos up as well, strikes something in you

[@eskaflorence5659]

I still can’t believe they actually found him.

[@Zarnubius]

@@mc1069 look at the actual photos, he's not just being melodramatic and faux poetic, he literally looked like broken white porcelain

[@ShamanJeeves]

I'm a hopless romantic who loves the idea that Mallory and Irvine made it, and that one day Irvine and a camera with proof will be recovered. I still hold major respect for Tenzing and Sir Ed for their accomplishment, and they get my nod as the first uncontested ascent, not to mention the first successful descent. Messner and Habeler also deserve major credit for the first ascent without supplementary oxygen.

[@SuperSMT]

I mean does a successful attempt even count if the descent was not completed?

[@nick5422]

@@SuperSMT well yes, if they made it then they were in fact the first to reach the peak, even if they never came back. Neil Armstrong would still be the first man to walk on the moon, even if the lunar lander blew up afterwards and he never came home.

[@spektrumB]

Good you mention both Tenzing and Hillary. People tend to only talk about Edmund Hillary.

[@Trippin710]

I doubt they made it the conditions were fucking ruthless

[@ceruleanc505]

Sherpa types were probably the first. Js.

[@matthewtoher5999]

Who came back to this amazing video after they found Irvine’s boot and sock?

[@nischalpradhan7290]

Me😂

[@Leadbraw]

For anyone looking for more stories about Everest, I strongly recommend reading Into Thin Air by Jon Krakauer, which chronicles the 1996 Everest disaster. He was actually present at the summit on that day. All of his books are great pieces of investigative journalism. Into The Wild, Under the Banner of Heaven, and Where Men Win Glory are all also definitely worth a read.

[@NeilMcLinden]

And also for once, the movie is almost as good as the book. Super well made, check out “Everest” if you haven’t seen it.

[@turquoisecrow4513]

I knew I recognized that name! Into The Wild is a really good book so I may check that one out

[@TSL73]

@@NeilMcLinden loved the movie too

[@shelina.maddrey7566]

No those are boring old people reads for farty historians and nerds

[@MFWb00bi3s]

man into thin air is a bunch of shit. great story but for a bunch of reasons that's all it is: a story.

[@bbsuffering]

"Why did you watch a video on something so niche?" "Because it's there."

[@Lezzyboy87]

How is everest niche, tf?

[@bbsuffering]

@@Lezzyboy87 Mountaineering trivia is

[@bbsuffering]

Something can be well respected and related to humanity's desires and be niche. Unless some super mainstream movie comes out and suddenly everyone and their dog is talking about George Mallory, it's pretty niche.

[@MashaRistova]

You’re severely sheltered if you think this subject is in any way niche

[@bbsuffering]

@@MashaRistova nitpicking

[@vraisairs9201]

Whether or not Mallory made it, his colleagues definitely wanted him to have made it. From what you said, they must have been very good friends, or at least respected rivals. I know I would have wanted to think Mallory and Irvine completed their goal before dying

[@chrisbelair5916]

first

[@ralphbooger4756]

in my opinion it is very likely that they made it! but their colleges might not have been as friendly as you think. you should ckeck out the youtube channel of Michael Tracy... very interesting stuff! Odell described their last seen position as "at the final step before the pyramid" at 12:50. as this likely describes what today is known as the third step, this would put them on a timeline to reach the summit before Mallory`s cutoff time at 16:00. for Odell to be describing the second step as the final step is unlikely as he also said they climbed it with "alacrity" in 5 minutes, this would only be possible with the first or third step, for Odell to describe the first step as the final step is just absurd! but that is what Norton changed the story to! Odell never publicly clarified exactly where he saw them, he was likely pressured from Norton... but to the family of Mallory and Irvine he confirmed it was the third step. it was Norton who claimed they took the ridge route despite Mallory himself saying it was not possible, so likely they took the same route as Norton, which was considered the best route... this route passes under the second step and they would come up at the third step, where by Odell`s own notes is where he saw them. Norton was lying! Mallory was supposed to leave a picture and a letter from his wife on the summit, his daughter confirmed this when his body was found... he did not have his wife`s photo on him, neither did he have his wife`s letter on him, he had several other letters though from friends and family.

[@christpierre]

@@ralphbooger4756 Amazing comment, thank you for taking the time to type out that information! Very valuable

[@duffman18]

Sandy Irvine's foot has now been found! Which may indicate his body, and the camera, are nearby. So this is absolutely huge.

[@Peterscraps]

4:13 that geowizard music was a welcome addition.

[@conorlohman4648]

Delightful

[@ClamDickson]

Such an adventurous song.

[@rachard]

Can't wait for Attempting to cross _"Nepal in a straight line..."_

[@JaxYTB]

i search for geowizard and fucking peterscraps of all people notices it

[@cl5612]

“In this video me and Welsh Greg attempt to summit Everest whilst travelling in a completely straight line”

[@mitchzurbrigg2403]

As Mallory famously said: "Why climb it?" _because it's there_

[@randomdude9369]

30:35

[@ulqinaku8471]

Probably the most chad response

[@boomerfunnyjimgaffigan4998]

what was the point of this comment

[@tygrenvoltaris4782]

@@boomerfunnyjimgaffigan4998 dunk on the nihilist

[@boomerfunnyjimgaffigan4998]

@@tygrenvoltaris4782 tygren voltaris

[@dimesonhiseyes9134]

I have a friend that climbed everest. He was really disappointed. There were hundreds of people. And trash everywhere. He was hoping for a legitimate special awe inspiring experience and what he got was an assembly line of people and trash.

[@Tristinthereviewguy2003]

That's what happens when commercialism takes place

[@Bob-df7sg]

You’re friend is probably lying to you😂

[@icantgetdubs2433]

@@Bob-df7sg microplastic pollution

[@ToomanyFrancis]

@@Bob-df7sg Almost everybody that climbs Everest either takes the Northeast Ridge or the South Col Route, there's usually around 800 a year that attempt the summit, and this isn't your average public hiking trail, nobody is paid to clean up the candy bar wrappers and lunch meat bags. If you don't believe it you're welcome to try it yourself, or you could just google pictures of trash and bodies on Everest. In this very video there was a photo of a line of climbers attempting the summit.

[@Otakumanu]

@@ToomanyFrancis Sherpas are tasked with cleaning trash and recovering dead bodies. I don't know if they are payed for the trash, but they are payed for the bodies and they consider the trash more important.

[@KrispyKrunchee]

Went to a school called Sir Edmund Hillary Primary and the house teams were as follows: Shipton (Yellow) Mallory (Red) Lambert (Green) Norton (Blue) We were taught the story almost exactly like this and even though we are in the most southern part of Africa, this story has stayed with me since. Favourite part of the school song went like: “He who conquers himself, conquers everything…vinci que se vinci.” I’ll probably climb it myself one day but I’m grateful to have shared in one of mankinds great legacies. 🙌🏾❤

[@amienabled6665]

I would love a video of emplemon just talking about his favorite most obscure piece of media

[@boiledteetllc]

Duck sauce

[@SportsGhost]

"In a spiritual sense the greatest pioneers are never truly alone. While on the precipice of making history all of mankind is with them. If they were to fail, so would the rest of us." Dang, Emp. Dang.

[@mrosskne]

yeah, writing's never been his strength

[@hankthetank8039]

​@@mrosskne Sort of an unfitting comment to have a negative reply about his writing on.

[@Vizaru]

@@hankthetank8039 I think Mike was being sarcastic. if there's anything we can agree on it's that emps writing is incredible.

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

And every explorer walks in the footsteps of the ones that came before. They might be the first to do something, they might be the first to reach somewhere, but there have always been people attempting it before, and from their attemots and failure we can learn.

[@GreyEagle_35]

@@hankthetank8039 its Sarcasm dude

[@limesauce1866]

learning that his grandson reached the peak was just too much, I actually almost cried

[@caroline6218]

It was really beautiful but also really sad at the same time.

[@Diwasho]

But it's not the same if he did it with modern gear on established routes without having to overcome the second step barehanded. It would be cooler if his son conquered it rather than his grandson, there would be fewer handicaps for him.

[@marcusborderlands6177]

@@Diwasho way to gatekeep a fuckin mountain

[@Diwasho]

@@marcusborderlands6177 THE mountain, the ever-est of them all. If there's ever been the perfect hill to die on it's this.

[@strangejune]

@@Diwasho did you just make a molehill out of a mountain

[@BlueBerry2283]

Anyone here after Irvines foot was found?

[@The_Officer_DWm]

I fucking love how he keeps the “why are the simpsons green” joke alive to this day

[@L_Train]

I think it's dumb

[@urbanbang5513]

@@L_Train k

[@kaine4503]

What is the joke? New sub

[@sirapple589]

kaine I may be wrong but Emp used to make KZbin Poops about The Simpsons. He colour corrected their skin to be green, I think it was to get around KZbin’s copyright detection.

[@fredster594]

@@sirapple589 Basically, The Sempsins were his last KZbin poops and everyone in the comment sections kept asking "Y R THE SIMPSONS GREEN???" and lots of people in the YTP community hated Emp, some said Emp was in a mental "downward spiral". Emp later took these quotes and made them into memes in his channel.

[@justdad3681]

I truly admire Odel, who could have easily said he didn’t believe they made it in a n effort to be first himself. But he along with many of his colleagues chose to claim their belief in Mallory’s success!

[@emmacahill5502]

Mallory reached the summit 🥰🥰🥰

[@user-uy6uc5ey5q]

Perhaps your admiration might be temped a bit by the fact that the period in question was one in which despite many attempts, British expeditions be first to the poles, or first ascents of Everest had all ended in failure. The classic one being the fatal Scott attempt to get to the South Pole in 1912, having been beaten by the Norwegian Amundsen and then the entire party dying coming back to their starting point. The organisation which had funded the previous attempts, the British Royal Geographical Society was funding the 1924 Everest expedition yet again, and they, plus the general British public and press were desperate to achieve at least of the one of the 'geographic firsts for the glory of King, country and empire' (Everest was marketed as the 3rd pole in the British press at the time) particularly given the horrors of WW1. All the members of the expedition, including Odel, would have known and felt this pressure to not be known as yet again a 'Noble failure'. I don't think it takes much imagination to think Odel would, even if only subconsciously, interpret more progress for the two climbers than actually was the case. Having Mallory and Irving achieving a first summit then die on return was a least one better than Scott in the 'noble sacrifice' stakes. As mentioned in the excellent video, Odel, would have known there was going to be no more attempts for the summit given the weather forecast (plus the storm he must have also seen arriving) with early June being way past the usual calm weather window for summit attempts.

[@otakuhunter4817]

deny and have a crippling depression or accept and believe your adventure had a cause and you fulfilled it

[@josm1481]

TBF it was a different era, Mallory was clearly a respected member of the team (and Odell was no slouch) etc. But you're right, given Odell went back in 33 he still could have underplayed the situation to make his later efforts more impressive.

[@josm1481]

@@user-uy6uc5ey5q you're projecting too much. The British were pretty much the only ones going for Everest and there were two more attempts (one including Odell) before Hillary was successful. I think Odell was simply a noble man in a more noble era than today.

[@VarsVerum]

Only Emp can make videos on random ass topics (collectibles, pirating, hollywood, racing, antagonists, video games, politics, world records, etc.) and make me interested in literally every. single. one.

[@sleepygorilla1341]

Too many youtubers comment generic shit like this and get lots of likes because they are verified. Using comments as channel advertising is the one the most annoying metas on youtube

[@inciniumz4671]

Yes! I agree. (and it wasn't antagonists, it was villains, there's a big difference)

[@Mr_Fancypants]

Silence, checkmark Go gain subs by making _good content_

[@hughjack5066]

Nascar

[@hughjack5066]

@@maureenobrien4968 My guy that's not what genuinely means🤣

[@achilles3078]

October 2024: Sandy Irvine's foot, boot, and sock have been found in a glacier by friend of Conrad Anker, Jimmy Chin. He will not release the exact location to dissuade trophy hunters. Huge find, hopefully soon the camera will be found alongside the rest of Irvine.

[@UpToSpeedOnJaguar]

While I can agree it's completely understandable feeling that climbing everest has certainly lost its allure, I also think it's unfair to write it off completely. On the other hand, we've successfully streamlined traveling to the peak of one of the planet's most harsh environments on it's entire surface, and that speaks to how far humanity has come in its own way.

[@Hauntedundead]

Whats truly astonishing is the sherpas who have climbed the peak *multiple times*

[@stackflow343]

just be thankful there's not a staircase leading up to a souvenir shop at the peak selling t-shirts and brunch lol

[@Carter-dv4hz]

Yes yes you've taken the adventure out of the adventure congratulations.

[@sharroon7574]

To me it will always be a vanity project, I'm sure it feels amazing to climb it and people respect the dedication but it is actually insane at the same time because the chance of being injured or killed is so high. It appeals to the dreamers but to realists like me it's not the same. Especially now where the lines to the top can literally kill a person and the mountain is littered with human bodies and human feces.

[@ano_nym]

@@stackflow343 a t-shirt printing service were you can take your top picture and have it instantly printed to a t-shirt to take home ;)

[@WooHooLadttv]

"Because it's there" is causing me to have a crisis, a good one, but still a crisis regardless. The power and passion in those words symbolizes humanity at it's greatest, having great curiosity for the unknown and displaying confidence to successfully conquer the unknown.

[@Rolando_Cueva]

Didn't have to repeat "the unknown" but yeah, I agree.

[@hoonterofhoonters6588]

There is beauty in in irrationality.

[@ThunderChunky101]

A "crisis" - because in 2021 words can mean anything you want them to mean.

[@Georgefloydthesneedster]

We need this kinda shit for space

[@carabculln1232]

@@ThunderChunky101 what a dumb fucking take lol, words are wind and they always have

[@ghostfreely7493]

"Why do you want to climb Mount Everest?" "Because it's there". Gave me chills Mallory and Irvine were built different.

[@JoeSmith-hv7oe]

“Because…I MUST”

[@seancullen99]

BS, they wanted to do it for the clout. Just like many people do it today.

[@truebark3329]

@@seancullen99 So technically, everything humans have achieved was for clout...

[@0uttaS1TE]

@@truebark3329 Not exactly a bad thing

[@bugjams]

@@truebark3329 Well, this begs an interesting question. Can anyone really so anything for others without having some stake in it? Even when being nice to someone, you're expecting them to trust you and be kind in return. No such thing as true altruism.

[@lucasqualls5086]

The sponsor bit was an interesting way of finding out you’re a Gainesville resident. I too have summited that deadly slope.

[@RandallFrequentFlyerFlagg]

5:45 Wow, Edward Norton has had quite an interesting life. He climbed Everest, became best friends with Ralph Kramden and starred in Fight Club.

[@princeapoopoo5787]

Every time he said his name it took me out of it lololol

[@mattreynolds4488]

He is the Incredible Hulk after all...

[@zannigan222]

He also ran the NYC Marathon years back.

[@judydoyle1124]

An all around American hero

[@TheDyscontinuum]

As a mountaineer, this especially piqued my interest. Funny to see pitons and climb grades described to an outsider. Great video

[@Angel_423]

Haha peaked my interest

[@TheDyscontinuum]

@@Angel_423 🤣🤣

[@ArkayeCh]

Climbers: Spend years debating the feasibility of the second step. Also climbers: Just install a ladder lol

[@meatbag1341]

And now irvines boot has been found

[@Mickelraven]

This man can talk about literally anything, and not make it boring! Never knew that I'd be interested in people who attempted to climb Everest

[@Bitzy]

Same with me and Nascar, I have no interest whatsoever in Nascar but I will happily watch his videos on them

[@asedonii-chan8466]

Oh that cool. You need something popular to decide if you’re interested in it. Hey just so I know how original you are what’s your take on President Trump?

[@TheJorgeGuy]

@@asedonii-chan8466 Is this an out of season April fools joke?

[@LegendYT931]

Facts

[@asedonii-chan8466]

@@LegendYT931 Thank you for agreeing with me

[@randomlyentertaining8287]

I like to think Mallory did make it and died on the descent. While he did make mistakes, he did also go through a lot to be the first and it's nice to imagine he was, even if we'll likely never know.

[@jondoc7525]

They definitely did but when it hit -100 on the way down with wind no one will survive

[@doct0rnic]

​@BB-xx3dvi thought I saw in a documentary that another tank was found just below the summit?

[@kenkaplan3654]

@@doct0rnic Apparently with O2 still in it.

[@RadiumMuncher]

Emplemon went from ytp’s to mini documentaries. Keep up the great work man

[@funsizedbeans]

back here after 100 year old remains of a foot belonging to a british man were found on the north face of everest, interestingly it was at a lower altitude than where mallory was found, right now it’s not 100% confirmed whether it’s sandy irvine’s or not, but it’s extremely likely given the age and location

[@travislindsey7256]

The fact that Mallory and his guys set the first record at a little over 8250 without oxygen and the guys that broke it only going about 115 meters further shows the sheer will of four men. For 300 meters they said we don't need oxygen

[@sergioescobar1391]

As a fellow Floridian who can confirm that this state is the most flat place on Earth, just the concept of mountains intrigues me deeply.

[@klobiforpresident2254]

As someone from another extremely flat place (right there at the lowlands) I agree. Last time I was in a city with a hill of perhaps two hundred metres visible in the distance it took me a few minuted to figure out what that thing poking over the buildings yonder was.

[@jimmymcnulty5079]

Come to the Ozarks friend

[@BigWheel.]

You should visit the Midwest. It's alllllll flat out ere

[@MrPolandball]

@@BigWheel. there’s sand dunes in MI

[@henryfleischer404]

As a Washingtonian, a lack of hills and mountains is eerie and confusing to me. I went to Chicago once, and seeing the vertical strip of sky created by the combination of the perfect grid of streets, and the flat ground that allowed it to exist was one of the most surreal things I've seen in my life.

[@haydencromwell8821]

This reminds me of my own experience trying to scale the highest point in Texas, Guadalupe Peak. It was the roughest 8.5 mile hike/climb of my life. Everything was a challenge to a point where I considered giving up, but I kept pushing through until the summit. Once I reached it, I felt triumphant and showered with ecstasy. I could only imagine Mt. Everest.

[@maddoxwise5840]

But did you die there though?

[@andrewhxrris]

@@maddoxwise5840 yes 😢

[@McCoy-00]

You’d probably feel even better kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmSld4iLjZqehdE

[@Mister.Psychology]

Unless you were the first in your group to reach the top we don't care.

[@haydencromwell8821]

@@Mister.Psychology I was

[@conorellis1986]

Who’s returned after Irvines foot has been discovered

[@jumpy6113]

me

[@ford9490]

We need an update video!!!

[@hrunchtayt1587]

Me

[@Pangloss6413]

i really appreciate the fact that i live in a time where i'm able to watch these any time i want, for free, forever

[@MrPolandball]

For now…

[@semibreve]

It would've been sick to see Emp cover a bit more the incredible and vital contribution that the Sherpas brought to these attempts. They were every bit as amazing humans as the climbers who hired them, yet often throughout history they're literally thought of as tools.

[@hrthrhs]

Well they are naturally more accustomed to the higher altitudes. And I don't know tools and knowledge of such a hike they had. From what I know, it wouldn't be fair to say they were as amazing.

[@darthfastball1150]

⁠@@hrthrhs People born near Everest aren’t naturally granted superhuman abilities in mountain climbing. It certainly didn’t grant them some kind of gift to haul mountain climbing equipment for teams of climbers. I don’t know what could possibly influence you to want to diminish the work of these people.

[@MrJonathaus]

@@darthfastball1150 it does to a an extent. They have a huge genetic advantage when dealing with altitude, doesn't mean they should be considered as tools though of course.

[@initiatinreallife]

Probably had to do with the fact that Irwin and Mallory didnt climb Everest with a sherpa.

[@GLUBSCHI]

The casual racism in these replies is pretty baffling. So are NBA players also not as amazing as other people playing basketball because they had the genes to be tall?

[@mdlnhgn]

I've always been fascinated by Everest, something about it being so massive and dangerous, yet beautiful. I watch a documentary about the people who found Mallory's body in 1999, and the attempt they made to find Irvine as he possibly had evidence of them being the first, yet unable to find him. Something about Everest that is especially chilling is the fact that the climbers who ascent the mountain and die on journey down, yet their bodies can't be brought down because of the high altitudes. The mountain keeps them there.

[@larrylobster9896]

There are a lot of corpses on Everest and other high peaks. Usually they are moved out of sight by random climbers and sometimes draped in a flag. After they found Mallory's body, they built a cairn for him where he lay, on the side of the crest of Everest, the top of the world.

[@lhaviland8602]

This just made me think that the Edmund Fitzgerald would be a banger subject for an emplemon vid.

[@bigt9745]

Yoo what's yo number, shawty?

[@badbeardbill9956]

The mountains don’t give back what they take

[@Otakumanu]

The bodies can be brought down, it's just incredibly difficult and most of the time not worth it. Apart from the difficulty of climbing to the spot where the body lays, the fact that they are frozen solid means moving them without destroying the corpse is tricky. It costs about 100000$ to recover a single body and, for the most part, the Sherpas are more focused on cleaning tourist trash. Maybe one day, we will have the technology to recover all those bodies safely.

[@kellyfarrar6639]

that was , by far, the very best ad read I have ever seen. I know this video is two years old, I hope you are still posting because this is amazing

[@rizzo_grt]

I saw a mountaineering forum once where somebody said that if you want to impress your rich friends at a party, you say you've climbed Everest. If you want to impress your fellow mountaineers, you say you've climbed K2.

[@UnitSe7en]

accurate

[@1pcfred]

K2 otherwise known as the widowmaker.

[@alexanderthegreat1270]

Everest kills about 1/12 climbers who attempt it, mainly due to shifting weather or equipment failure. K2 kills 1/4, that is legitimately terrifying

[@mattwagner73]

@@alexanderthegreat1270 and Annapurna 1 kills 1/3 people

[@1pcfred]

@@alexanderthegreat1270 what terrifies me is that there are so many among us that willingly choose to do such foolish things. If they'd climb a mountain what else are they capable of? I find myself in the lobbies of banks occasionally after all. I do see some mad lads when I am out driving with fair regularity too.

[@chrism4008]

Mallory gets plus 5 to his climbing skill for the time period he was in. These modern scales are all well and good but there were some big technological differences

[@JuggWalker]

I agree

[@pugbeast-jf2nl]

I’m glad that the ones in 1999 who found Mallory’s body properly respected the body and gave it proper burial

[@ComedyLoverGirl]

They didn't. His body was so frozen it was stuck to the side of the mountain. They retrieved the items on him but they left his body where it is. The mountain is his resting place, and considering how important summiting was to Mallory, perhaps he would've liked that.

[@pugbeast-jf2nl]

@@ComedyLoverGirl oh yeah I figured they left the body there, but they went ahead and did proper church service and stuff that Mallory probably would’ve wanted. But yeah, considering he cared a lot about making it up Everest, I’m sure he would’ve wanted his body to stay there too

[@avamasquerade]

And the sherpas?

[@dannydevito5729]

Even the people there don't think they were respectful

[@pugbeast-jf2nl]

@@dannydevito5729 idk I made this comment like a year ago, idk why people keep responding to it😭

[@t_chatbroke9642]

They finally found part of Sandy Irvines body. One step closer to solving the mystery

[@AManOnline.]

"The greatest pioneers were never truly alone. While on the precipice of making history, all of mankind is with them. If they were to fail, so would the rest of us. Human beings are defined by challenging the unknown. The innate desire to explore unifies us all. We will not rest until every summit is reached and every question is answered. George Mallory put it rather succinctly back in a 1923 interview for The New York Times. When asked why he wanted to climb Everest, he simply responded with the three most famous words in mountaineering. "Because it's there". That was one of the most beautiful conclusions to a KZbin video that I have ever seen.

[@GrassPossum]

LOL. It's an empty platitude. Complete bullshit and wouldn't mean a thing to the person doing it.

[@destructoau7526]

Ok EmpLemon, in regards to the 1953 expedition you made a mistake. Sir Edmond Hillary and Tenzing Norgay declared that they summited together and to this day have made no distinction as to someone summiting first. It was a very important recognition to the Nepalese people, and should not be overlooked!

[@ergwertgesrthehwehwejwe]

Cope and seethe, Hillary was the first one. Stop trying to piggyback off the accomplishments of white people.

[@johnmcphee3136]

That's completely false. In his 1955 autobiography, Norgay said that Hillary took the first step onto the summit. Hillary originally wrote that he had stepped first, though this was edited in the official press release to something more ambiguous, as not to incite poor national relations. After Norgay died Hillary did an interview where he said he reached the summit first.

[@jessISaRicePrincess]

​@@johnmcphee3136of course Hillary will say that

[@James-fw5ew]

I wanna be first somewhere I have a tour guide

[@johnmcphee3136]

@@jessISaRicePrincess Hillary showed nothing but respect for Tenzing Norgay. Of course I understand that Hillary has some honour to gain for being the first, but to lie about someone after his death still seems out of character for most people. Besides, Norgay said himself in his autobiography that Hillary stepped first, and both of their accounts have Hillary leading the two on the day of the summit. In the end, it was both of their achievements, and it's ultimately insignificant who summited first, but if I had to choose one my bets would be on Hillary.

[@michaeltracy2356]

By far the best overview video of this subject. I know how much work goes into the research and content collection, and all your hard work really shows. Thanks for the shout out.

[@nejihalo98]

Mr. Lemon sir, I have to say that your videos are spectacular. The editing, the writing, the way you weave together seemingly unrelated topics into a broader discussion. It's incredibly well-done, and anyone with eyes can see the amount of time and effort you put into each video. Thank you for making these videos, I can only hope that they bring you as much enjoyment as they do for those that watch them.

[@Danominator]

Just wanna say that this guy accurately explained and predicted the downfall of the dislike counter on KZbin videos. You should really watch his video on that.

[@c-rlt730]

Which one?

[@chriswhite2151]

He predicted Biden being elected?

[@trashgang_]

Those were exactly my thoughts when KZbin revealed that dislikes would be ripped out of the user experience... I really wish they come back, the site just loses a lot of it's appeal without them

[@trashgang_]

@matt but they already censored dislikes from comments a long time ago...actually they did so before I could even use KZbin

[@trashgang_]

@matt no, we actually didn't, because there is a fundamental difference between comments and dislikes. Out of the billions of people that watch KZbin videos, only a few of them leave a thumbs up, and just a fraction of them leave a comment. This is because of what I like to call tiers of effort: it takes almost nothing to click on a video, some hassle to leave a like and a lot of it to leave a comment. Additionally, likes and dislikes are merely numbers that can (well, could to be precise) be seen right underneath the video in question. So not only comments are way less inclusive than dislikes, they are also less effective and impactful. I do completely agree with you on the reason why they did this tho. Also when you mentioned comment dislikes earlier I didn't think about leaving a comment with the word "dislike" in it, I interpreted it as the dislike button underneath said comment, which as I stated hasn't been used in ages. Like, at least with dislikes today they are tracked somewhere on the website, but comment don't even get that luxury.

[@arthurdurham]

Damn, Edward Norton is the most method actor

[@gigstar3194]

This Implies the possibility that there could be a f****** c***** on mount Everest

[@lucydrop8105]

Lmao thats what i was thinking

[@whodatninja439]

the greatest actor alive 😎

[@GoodieM8]

@@gigstar3194 a what

[@gigstar3194]

@@GoodieM8 I'm not allowed to talk about it

[@MegaMac464]

I can't believe no one has made a movie about this story. You've made out the story so perfectly in this video that it gave me all kinds of ideas for a film. I swear if I'm ever some director some day I am going to make this film real

[@intensivecareunitpee5838]

i'll do it first. race ya

[@MegaMac464]

@@intensivecareunitpee5838 bet

[@condorigui684]

If it happens then I hope Edward Norton gets to play Edward Norton

[@verifiedryan9951]

there is a documentary on Netflix about the Mallory/Irvine expedition called 'Lost On Everest', really good watch

[@vitanus]

Thats because they dont know what happened yet. It would be a guessing game. IF Irvine is ever found and they can reconstruct the summit day, I give the film industry 2-3 years until the first movies about it are in the cinemas. Until then its everyones story really, there are good hints that they could have made it and there are good hints that they couldnt. And its not "highly unlikely" that they made it, its more like a 40:60. IF Odell saw them, he saw them climbing the third step at 12 pm. IF that is correct, they made it, 90% certainty. He couldnt have seen them climbing the first or second step because of the position from which he saw them "climbing swiftly". The second step was impossible to climb anyway at the time and the Chinese didnt find any evidence of previous climbs when they climbed the second step some 50 years later. IF the Chinese didnt cover it up, they never attempted the second step but went straight for the Norton route. The problem ist that the Norton couloir is also very hard to climb, Messner talked about it being nearly impossible, he only made it cause he found a route with good ice conditions. IF that route was ice free in 1924, they could have done it. If it wasnt they had to turn back ... it truly all depends on Odell telling us the truth. His mind may have played a trick on him since noone believed that Odell told lies deliberatly. Did Odell therefore really saw them? He was quite certain about it and also said it is possible that he saw rocks or anything else but moving human beings. What really happened though is a mystery, anything could have happened really. Maybe Irvine fell in the couloir, leaving Mallory alone. He took his ice axe, continued on and had an accident later on where he lost Irvine ice axe. Or maybe Mallory fell first, leaving Irvine alone and uncertain where he was. He could have wandered around the ridge for some time and is now in a place, completly unknown to anyone. Like I said, all a guessing game

[@bar7381]

on the survivors guilt point, the folks that died on his previous attempt could have also effected him in a more direct way since they died because of 1 his decision making and 2 the mountain itself