the evolution of boybands and their impact on society

[@jasminezade]

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[@joshuareidmusic]

There's one boy band you forgot about jasmine look into IM5 they're amazing had a few member line up changes but might come back as well

[@joshuareidmusic]

I also was lucky enough to talk to 2 of the members on TikTok and IG

[@shysonnet]

I’m a Korean-Canadian and my hypothesis on why there is more longevity and prevalence of kpop boy and girl groups partly has to do with cultural differences. Korea is a very collectivist culture that values social harmony. There are definitely disputes between members but I think they value the group experience and are more inclined to want to remain in the group setting. A lot of prominent solo acts in kpop had some exposure to the west through living abroad or schooling like Jay Park, Tablo, PSY, Jessi, CL etc. Kpop also has extremely intricate group choreography which looks phenomenal with a large number of people. Finally, a practical reason is that Korean men have to serve in the military so with a large number of group members, they can remain active and create sub groups while certain members are away. Part of the charm of groups is seeing their friendship, group interactions and you can see how they lean on one another during hard times. A big part of korean culture is “Jeong”which is a kind of familial love which is reflected in the language where members calls their older members “older brother” or “older sister” instead of their names. After such an isolating period like the pandemic, everyone is craving togetherness, celebrating life and social interaction which kpop does so well.

[@sumiiiiii_]

So true! I love how you wrote this! ❤

[@peachxtaehyung]

I totally agree with you! I have been a kpop Fan for almost 10 years and I agree

[@reecegraham6921]

You nailed it. This is why kpop groups seem to work better than western groups. The group bond aspect is def one of the charm that sells it for a lot of fans. The togetherness is not only heartwarming and entertaining but also refreshing to see

[@yannickjohn6930]

Collectivism is the default in East Asia. One host in Japan said that these countries still have a mass groupie culture. When they connect, they come in droves as the next big thing. Korea hasn't paid attention to other genres besides K-pop idols. Hip hop (until recently), hard rock, and classical music come to mind. They're ignored in Korea and aren't worthy unlike K-pop boy bands.

[@lll.24601]

Korean boy bands have occurred since Sonbangcha, and there has been hip hop groups such as Seo Taiji and Boys, which I can consider as the start of the Korean pop. H.O.T, which was the first group to use the Kpop trainee system, is considered as another iconic boy band, as they won more daesaengs than their rival at that time. All of them are still very popular in Korean shows, including Moon Heejun, who people see in Korean variety shows. 2nd generation Kpop included TVXQ, a boy band that was known for their acapella skills. One of their songs was in Fast and Furious. They were in the same company, and are still known today, except 2/5 are apart of this group now. BigBang is also considered a popular group at that time, with more hip hop influences. They are known to have songs such as Lies and Fantastic Baby. But sadly their popularity decreased due to the Burning Sun scandal- that one was a part of the history books.

[@taehyunglover5499]

ALSO just to add, it’s still crazy to me how to this day boybands are STILL looked down upon. i mean, im a 20 year old with a few posters and albums in my room, and every time i say i want to buy more i always get comments like “again??” or whenever they’re brought up it’s always with this mocking tone like.... obviously my close ones have no malicious intent but it’s rather interesting. like yes, i am a fan of this group, i want more albums/merch and attend their concerts, idk what’s weird. my dad thinks me owning 3 bts albums is a lot lol (there’s also an added layer of the boybands i like being asian.... which i do get comments on as well but that’s another thing) idk i just find it interesting how fangirls are seen as “obsessive” and “crazy” for being invested and passionate about their favourite groups bc they’re young girls but young men being intense about sports team isn’t? like, some men have actually destroyed property and hurt people over their teams losing, but u will NEVER see the media call them crazy or obsessive. there’s definitely a layer of misogyny to the boyband culture lol. needless to say i have a lot of thoughts about this topic as a boyband enjoyer lol. loved this video, very educational, i love seeing how past boybands have influenced the current ones

[@Department_of_Justice]

I always shut the scorn down. Point out the toxic masculinity, xenophobia, racism, dismissiveness, microaggressions, homophobia & misogyny. Never let it slide. The world doesn't get better if we don't speak up.

[@peachxtaehyung]

Yessss totally agree and feel you on this!!! My dad somewhat supports my album collecting as he buys me a BTS album every christmas but only with BTS since he knows that's my #1 boy group but for anyone else I have to buy which I am ok with since I am just grateful he buys me any at all! But he will still give comments on me being mainly a boy group fan saying things like "you think they're hot don't you?" Or "you're looking at his butt aren't you?" Ugh 🙄... I'm always like "no dad I just like the music and dancing!" Which is the truth.

[@gabbysade6477]

I loved what u said & I agree 100%!!

[@bienemaja4007]

yeah, and it's like totally normal for (stereotypes, but it proofs a point) a man in his 40s to be obsessed with football (soccer) or some other sport, have their jerseys at home and posters of their favourite team and player and stuff

[@The-Mediator]

How does your dad think 3 albums is enough cause I bet he had a million CD’s back in the day 😂

[@grace_mar]

One of the things that impresses me the most about BTS' success is that their "father", Bang Sihyuk, doesn't seem to be interested on replicating what he created with BTS, and in the interviews he has done regarding the "secret formula" of creating a global phenomenon as massive as BTS, he explains he doesn't know what he did but he atributes the success of the group on their ability to tell the members' own stories in a music form which is so refreshing. Is not so often that we see the man "behind" the success of a certain artist not trying to somehow steal all the credit to himself.

[@ayoidek6571]

BTS’ impact is so weird to me, it’s the first time I’ve seen a boyband fan base have not only a good chunk of male fans but also have the MAJORITY of their fans be in their 20’s 30’s and 40’s. They definitely helped break the “boyband fanbases only consist of young female audience” that’s been used to discredit boyband as artists for such a long time (which it shouldn’t btw, why are artists with a “ male dominated audience considered more “credible” while artists with majority female fanbases are seen as nothing but thirst traps)

[@ashyoyrus3441]

They definitely shifted the targeted "boyband" audience and i think that has a lot to do with what their message and their songs are about. They don't make the stereotypical lovey pop sound mainly targeted toward teenage audiences but rather stuff like mental health and struggles that people no matter the gender or age can relate to while still maintaining a boyband image.

[@ayoidek6571]

@@ashyoyrus3441 they’ve helped me a lot during my time in high school, I’ve never really understood how people could cry bcz they relate Sm to a song until I discovered BTS. They really helped me get through my lowest point, and they’ve also helped me become a better person. I used to think it’s a shame for a guy to cry or express their emotions bcz it’s “unmanly” bcz that’s how I was raised, but seeing BTS be so open and vulnerable helped me be more accepting of my emotional side and lose my toxic masculinity that’s been preventing me from connecting with my loved ones emotionally. I’d like to personally thank BTS’ rapline, they’re cool as hell 💀 and they make banger songs

[@icephoenix1932]

I’m a girl, but the reaction to V’s ‘gentlemen, make some noise’ in Las Vegas was so beautiful that it made me tear up.

[@ashyoyrus3441]

@@ayoidek6571 personally they overall helped me grow (a lot of people too i'm sure) they changed the way i view a lot of things and they still get me through tough days... And agreed the rapline owns my ass they made some of my favorite songs ever

[@__beinluv]

yep everyone I know that is a fan and including myself are in our 20's

[@skzanarchist]

thank you so much for putting stray kids on the thumbnail, as a person who was a really hardcore directioner and still is, it was such a delight to see stray kids and one direction side by side on the thumbnail stray kids are a really unique boygroup in kpop considering that the leader bang chan handpicked his members himself and created a group that is inherently 100% self produced, they're really breaking the mould. plus their music slaps af

[@rafaelsmith5737]

No, StrayKids aren't 100% self produced, they have lots of composers & producer's under them. And saying they write 100% of their music isn't accurate either.

[@sophiamalik6408]

the stray kids in the thumbnail shocked me for some reason

[@moonsbies]

I think a big reason behind the lack of western boy bands now is that the one direction fandom is still so strong and would rather stay as Stan’s of 5 solo careers than jump ship to a new boyband because they know that eventually that boy bands gonna split up and they don’t wanna have to deal with that again

[@CraigBukenya]

Yeah that’s fair. Your argument makes 1D fans seem less fickle and easily malleable in terms of their attachments to music. It’s an emotional investment, and it’s sort of hard to move on, especially with that fear of a band splitting up etc

[@pbcat16]

Tbh I can see BTS's fans acting like that too once they split up for good

[@galllowglass]

I think normally what happens is that a new generation comes along and a new bb is born and fills that space of the next big band, but with 1D these past few years there's been kind of a revival? & I feel like it's partially due to tiktok and yt keeping a lot of it alive. I see people who weren't old enough to be fans back then, becoming fans now. Plus, you also have people flocking to k-pop for boy band content, so the social space that a new band would fill has somehow been kept occupied by all this.

[@asher2599]

would love a video on stray kids and their career so far, everything about them is so interesting to me especially the fact they didn’t follow the typical mould where a company puts together a group but instead their leader picked and formed them into the group they are today, idk i just love them, their relationship with their fans and of course their music so would be interested to see a video on them :)

[@looive]

as a (kinda new) directioner I'm glad that you talked so honestly about the 1D boys

[@LB-ih7hn]

I just love one direction. I know other great boy bands exist, but no other boybands quite get to me like one direction have. So now I just follow their solo careers and thankfully they all seem to be doing well.

[@twiggledowntown3564]

Same. There the first that I ever followed, and fell in love.

[@retitauts186]

I haven't watched the full video yet but thank you so much for putting Stray Kids on the thumbnail!! They deserve all the love and success in the world

[@favm07]

I think what you said about reinventing the boygroup formula - bts did so well with that. bc while they still followed the typical kpop boy group concept, they reinvented it by singing about their struggles as young adults and mental health + adding storytelling to their mvs which got fans more involved in their lore, etc

[@jsspald]

Thank you for someone finally regonizing New Edition. I feel like alot of people foeget about them because.......REASONS. However,their impact for ushering in the modern era of boy band is often overlooked. Thank you💖

[@mindlesbhavior]

I was just about to comment the same thing about how black boybands like New Edition and Mindless Behavior are often ignored in these videos !

[@jsspald]

@@mindlesbhavior Flat out forgotten and they have pave the way specifically b2k that would have been another group to mention

[@electrictwilight]

A whole SERIES could be done on Black male vocal groups like the Jackson 5, New Edition, DeBarge, Jodeci, Dru Hłll, Boyz II Men and later B2K, and their exclusion from the "boyband conversation" when they really set the template that was ripped off by the white music industry.

[@leximichelle6022]

@@electrictwilight i would love to see something like this!

[@shargreen9950]

@@electrictwilightneeds to happen!!!

[@kings4300]

It is interesting to see BTS slowly becoming one of he biggest artists of current century because they're not all even fluent in English (you know, as western audience would expect for someone global) and yet they literally smacked the doors down and opened the gates for dozens of other Korean/Asian acts to thrive. I've always been a fangirl and a fan of boybands and even though it took me quite some time to get into that BTS-mania, I honestly feel like there's a need for some serious research about their success - one that is not filled with misogyny and prejudice. For bands like 1D it's quite given why they were global, being born in a English speaking country is a huge advantage from the start, and they usually have very successful promotions since debut. And for BTS, I feel like they're one in a generation proof that passion and dedication to their own craft can bring you to the stardom. Not to mention, I think the average and median of the age of BTS fans is higher than other boybands. I know several people in their 40s and even 50s who unapologetically admit they're fans of BTS. And that is probably the reason why they're on the rise so 10 (?) years into their career. One could expect they'd be slowly making the place for younger bands as this is what usually happens when the biggest group of teenage fans goes to college and finds job, unfortunately lack of time is one of the reasons why I stopped being an active fangirl. It's gonna be interesting to look at their career in 15 years, whether or not their success will continue.

[@loftyradish6972]

I think the reason BTS are so successful is that they are a socially-critical emo group that has disguised themselves as mainstream. Normally, if you want to listen to a song about how the economy is messed up, you have to go deep into the indi scene and the music itself might make your ears bleed. Not with BTS. You get those relatable lyrics mixed with mainstream sounding music and that is an extremely rare combination. Even rarer is that BTS always include a thread of hope in their lyrics, so even their darkest songs aren't depressing, instead they are empathetic and comforting. It is a killer combination.

[@FIRXFLY]

thank you for putting stray kids on the thumbnail, i love them and everyone should check them out. let me watch the video now edit- such a great video like always jasmine, it's very interesting to see how the boyband mould has changed over time, being bands, vocal only groups and self producing groups. Would love to see a video fully dedicated to kpop, it's effects on the west and everything else

[@firstbinguser]

so true fellow stay

[@henriettaanneeles490]

Well said , fellow stay

[@MR-ho9bv]

I came from loving one direction and her 1d videos to being a full time Stay

[@henriettaanneeles490]

@@MR-ho9bv hey me too! It's good to see you

[@lll.24601]

if they do, please talk about the woojin scandal- it’s infamous, and it tore the fandom apart.

[@The-Mediator]

As a Kpop and Visual Kei fan, I just like boy bands cause the music is fire, concepts are artsy, and the members seem close. So that makes it fun to keep up with stan ❤❤

[@itsRebeccaRayne]

When you said Stray Kids I had to rewind haha they got me into kpop! Been a Stay for 3 years now

[@lenalovesyou]

nowadays i feel like the only real noticeably popular boy bands (and kinda girl groups too tbh) have all been from kpop. as a kpop stan i’m happy to see my favs getting all this attention but it would also be nice to see another western boy group make waves around the world again.

[@taehyunglover5499]

i think the lack of boybands is due to, like you said, the overuse of the formula but also just because the music industry has changed so much since then, and it’s a bit... outdated? speaking as a kpop fan, the thing that sells a lot with these kpop boy groups is relatability, or at least them being marketed as such. not only songs with lyrics that feel relatable to all ages but also personalities as well. having each member of a group have a personality that can’t just be described like an archetype. with the rise of social media and new platforms, kpop companies come up with new ways to make the fans feel connected to the artists, as if they were their best friend. and THAT really changed how boybands were constructed, i think. if newer boybands emerged with that old formula, they wouldn’t reach the same success as before bc kpop introduced a new mold, that makes the old one less appealing (also choreography. kpop set the bar HIGH for that too. no more silly one step two step anymore). basically, they’re still pretty much the same as their core, and u can see elements that were present in the 90’s, but they’re marketed more prominently now and i strong believe social media had a role in changing the boyband mold. maybe in the upcoming years, we’ll see western boybands inspired by kpop groups? i mean, considering the immense success of bts it seems like it’s only a matter of time. (EDIT: oh and also oversaturation. i forgot to mention it but there are SO many boybands now, especially if you look at kpop specifically. when there are so many that try to become the “next big thing” the attention gets split and it’s hard for one group to really stand out from the others. once bts leaves, which isn’t gonna be for a while, i don’t think One group is gonna be able to take their place. that fame is just gonna be split to multiple groups instead. that’s what i think, at least)

[@loulicious5882]

I didn't propeelt understood your few lines. Do you think if new boyband comes in they should not use the branding of relatibilty? Like bts did? Or they should do same. Genuinely want to knw as I really liked your take

[@taehyunglover5499]

@@loulicious5882 sorry my reply is a bit wordy lol. what i mean is that they likely WILL use relatability bc these days, that’s what sells. groups that currently top the charts are those that the fans feel more connected to, whether it be because of how they’re marketed or because of their lyrics, that are more serious and touch on more than just love. since most of the boybands who still used the old formula disbanded, if a new one emerged and didn’t fit into that “relatable” label, maybe they wouldn’t be as successful bc the image of what a boyband is has changed too much now (also, these newer boybands appeal to more than just teenager girls, there are a lot of older fans now and the old formula might feel repetitive to them). but that’s just my speculation, i could be wrong lol. glad u were interested in my take tho! :)

[@CraigBukenya]

I feel like people are somewhat bored of the archetype formula, and the next biggest band after BTS needs to revamp the formula again. Like BTS is so unlike anything we’ve ever seen. Non-English/Asian/musical themes are different etc. We need a new shift, because otherwise we’ll just continue to see a surge of “new BTS groups”.

[@grace.burke.]

Just so you’re aware, Westlife is from Ireland, not the UK. That is an important distinction for Irish people :)

[@chloeanne18x]

i noticed you mentioned The Wanted on here for 1d rivalries, but i feel like they deserve more appreciation (as i’m a the wanted stan myself) - since they kinda brought popular boybands back after the 90s. Max George (member of the band) has said that radio stations wouldn’t play their music at times bc they would ‘lose reputation for playing a boyband’ and a lot of people dismissed them as they were the first ‘big’ boyband for a couple years (‘big’ as in being able to do world tours and breaking America), but once 1d came along, it was alot different. I believe both bands have their own amazing qualities but The Wanted are often looked down upon and not seen as a ‘popular’ band due to society as i said above.

[@chloeanne18x]

also the late Tom Parker (also member of the band) mentioned in his recent autobiography about the ‘rivalry’ and how people took things out of context and it was just a case of everyone got carried away with themselves, and that Tw had actually enjoyed listening to 1d’s music, and still support them now; they’ve always supported 1d but sometimes fans of that band doesn’t see it in that way.

[@twiggledowntown3564]

I didn't even know that at first. How Tom appreciated them.

[@twiggledowntown3564]

Twitter can really make you believe people don't like each other.

[@queenofcamp832]

this is your sign to watch The Boyband Con documentary (its free on youtube in hd)

[@ellaronci2703]

Got my queue lined up: this video, then your evolution of girl groups video, then your boys world video, then we'll see where that takes me, im officially on a jasmine zade marathon. Should i be studying for my math final? maybe... but this is better

[@EF-kk3vh]

gl on the math final eventually✨💕

[@ellaronci2703]

@@EF-kk3vh ty

[@berryjunmill9029]

omg PLEASE do a video on mindless behavior! what happened to them was so insane and sad. my cousins and I was obsessed with them in middle and early high school.

[@RoKer13]

The Wanted came back together, but then Tom… RIP 🕊 I love them, they are like my One Direction but older lol I liked the older men 😂

[@lovestrongify]

I was so shocked to find out he died during the grammys

[@lll.24601]

Rest well Tom :(

[@EvaaRashid]

Likewise could be said for Boyzone (who you missed btw), when youngest member Stephen Gately died in 2009 😭

[@raynacarraway440]

Not me watching this on my phone that currently has a Stray Kids photocard in the case- I know K-pop boy bands aren't the same as Western boy bands but I still think it's kinda funny, especially considering I'm watching this through the lens of someone who isn't a Directioner but a Stay and an Army (I was a Rusher though, can't believe I forgot about my OGs for a sec) Edit: Oh my god I haven't heard the name Mindless Behavior in YEARS, I was young when they were in their prime though so I don't remember much but wow I completely forgot about they existed

[@ashyoyrus3441]

It is very interesting seeing this from a kpop stan perspective

[@ayoidek6571]

HELP I have a BTS photo card 💀💀💀

[@raynacarraway440]

@@ayoidek6571 Which member? Mine is a Bang Chan one atm

[@ayoidek6571]

@@raynacarraway440 omg bangchan is my stray kids bias 😭 my photocard is of suga (he’s my BTS bias)

[@raynacarraway440]

@@ayoidek6571 Oh sick, my bts bias is Jin with RM as wrecker and technically my skz bias is Han, but the other members bias wreck me so hard constantly I can't actually decide on one lol (ESPECIALLY Chan, I'm still in awe someone that amazing actually exists)

[@animelover-zz4ge]

I think for the newer boybands ahead the key lies in being different simply put. They will have to find ways to revitalise and be independent of generic boyband norms.. being directioner/army i think it's because of this reason 1D and BTS have gotten huge.. Like for 1D it was about creating this clean neighbourhood boys image who didn't dance not wore same clothes that worked for them. And for BTS it was about creating songs that connects with you mentally and emotionally to get through rougher times. I think in that respect BTS has really changed boyband norms cause despite the definition of a boyband emphasising love songs, BTS ' discography is very diversified and wide that is not restricted to love songs. So further ahead boybands will have to find a way to be unique and stand different and also connect to people

[@CraigBukenya]

Yeah that’s totally right. I couldn’t agree more. Also there’s a real sense of inclusion and diversity being pushed in 21st century politics, and BTS being non-western and non English really appeal to that.

[@djjules6418]

The most fascinating Boy Band to me is Big Time Rush. Mainly because..... I don't think they were originally made to be successful. The members auditioned to play a role on the show at first, with the original idea was to have fake character names instead of their real ones. Kendall, James, Carlos, and Logan all got the parts, filmed the first season, record some hits for the show, and then went on with their lives. But then it BLEW UP! Those songs were getting big sales, viewship went up every episode, and eventally started getting really popular. BTR opened for Justin Bieber at one point. This lead to them making a whole album, gettimg multiple seasons of their show, and even a TV movie. They sold out concerts and loads of young to teen girls adored them. They ended it in 2014, mainly because they needed a break. When they got back together, concert tickets sold out in a matter of days. Then they started releasing new stuff with a fresh and updated sound. They just had another tour this summer where the sold out Madison Square Garden. The fact that so many people still care about this childhood boy band is fascinating to me. They now have their own label, perform at various different events and places, and make music they never could before is amazing. They manage to mature while still keeping their signature sound and life they had when they were younger. I'm so happy the managed to find a balence and end up becoming big once again. Rusher for life.

[@rz5293]

I think another reason why there aren't really big rising Western boybands is cause Kpop is so huge. How can western groups compare with that insane choreography and churn out of music? Why bother when Kpop boy groups are killing it

[@nationssunshinefelix4482]

Saw Skz on the thumbnail and clicked immediately. I was a die hard directioner before I found straykids.. I always watch your videos and seeing Skz on the thumbnail made me so happy 😁 Edit:- straykids is in itself a rare phenomenon especially in the k-pop industry , with the leader (Bang chan) choosing his own members , having an almost 100% self composed, self written, self produced discography , creating their own sound and not following the usual route for a k-pop boy group. Their music is even now termed as "noise music" by many people yet they've achieved so much in only 4yrs without ever succumbing to the criticisms and continuing to be true to themselves,their steady growth over the years is insane...

[@firstbinguser]

no bc noeasy being a pun on noisy in korean is proof skz r hella cool

[@judymaarsh6869]

stop cuz same. I was looking for a comment like this

[@skzanarchist]

we're literally soulmates

[@reallifegoblin]

same

[@rafaelsmith5737]

Actually StrayKids has lots of composers, to completely discredit them to portray StrayKids as unique is so disrespectful. Besides, StrayKids do not write 100% of their lyrics. Though 3 Rancha write most of their stuff, StrayKids definitely have other writers as well not just the members, it's even shown in the writing credits. So please don't spread lies.

[@britneylebeau6415]

I SCREAMED WHEN YOU BROUGHT UP MINDLESS BEHAVIOR!!!! A case study is NEEDED because I was OBSESSED.

[@rosewhite3446]

as a few others have mentioned i would also love a video for stray kids!!

[@starlightjazzy9974]

OMG CANT BELIEVE YOU BROUGHT UP MINDLESS BEHAVIOR, THEY WERE MY FIRST CONCERT LOL

[@sparkle4051]

Yes, a video about Lou Perlman. He took too much of BSB's money. They had to pay him to end their contract. Almost, 30 years later, BSB are still together and performing.

[@stanwjsnstantalent]

i've been waiting for this video! it was so nice to see how boybands have grown over time - i am a massive boyband fan. i also agree that for whatever reason, people of older generations as well as men have such a problem with things being built for teenage girls. ive seen book reviews of ya books, written for teens, where adults in their 30s or 40s said that it was a trashy book and they couldn't relate to it... it's the same with boybands. also, it felt like seeing my identity, since i first became a directioner, and im a kpop stan as well now...

[@FreggFaerie]

My mom was just telling me about the Bay City Rollers the other day, apparently they got their name from throwing a dart at a map of the world and it landed on a bunch of weirdly named places and eventually hit Bay City Michigan and that's what they picked!

[@ameliabeth]

thank you so much for putting stray kids in the thumbnail! a very proud stay here and if you didn’t know they are an 8 member group who write and produce their own music (typically rare in kpop) and they are so so so talented!! ps loved the video

[@rosemarysettles6273]

I'm so happy to see new kids on the block in the thumbnail, I love them so much I wish more people around my age (15) would listen to them as well.

[@redheaddetective8424]

One of the best live bands I’ve ever seen!! Glad to see a baby blockhead on here. You have great taste!!

[@shreyalove715]

im sorry but louis looks so good in the shirt----

[@uwu-nr9mh]

there was also a puerto rican boy band in the 70’s called Menudo

[@hanahahmad]

1D is everything to me 😩💙💚🇮🇪💛❤️🥺

[@girlshushhhh]

bts singlehandedly destroyed the wave of western boybands by setting new standards that these other boys cant reach. I don't think we'll ever see a western boygroup unless bts disbands and thats unlikely

[@leabarrios5643]

as someone who used to love watching big time rush as a young girl to then getting into 5SOS (not boy band i know) then into why don't we, then into on direction, and now a HUGE k pop fan. i love seeing these kinds of videos. boy bands have always been a huge part of my life even though i love do deny otherwise. Seeing stray kids in the thumb nail is what drew me into this video. and i think you doing a video on them and doing a deep dive would be really cool. they might be like any-other k pop group to some, but Stray kids is an amazing group that is like no other. the love they have for the fans is HUGE and the love we have for them is even bigger.

[@ElizabethNicoleSchwartz]

I think even if we do get to a point without popular boybands, there will be another eventually. History and trends tend to repeat themselves.

[@EvaaRashid]

Exactly. Just look at 80s music and disco coming back in 2020, thanks to Kylie Minogue, Dua Lipa and The Weeknd

[@jackiebackup5495]

If you're a boy band fan go watch the KZbin doco lance bass produced about Lou Pearlman. It's called "the boyband con The Lou Pearlman Story." It's crazy what he did.

[@aminam7884]

jasmine you probably won't ever read this but your videos make me so happy. idk why, every time you post my mood just lights up (no pun intended) and my day just gets 10 times better. thank you for keeping us happy with your amazing content !!

[@pobalex]

this is such a great video!! as a 29 year old millennial, the jonas brothers were everythiiiiing to me when i was a teenager lol. every inch of my bedroom's walls and ceiling were covered in posters hahaha, i was absolutely insane. i cried like a baby when they surprised the world with their reunion!!

[@IcyIndigo]

YES!!!! Thank you for mentioning Mindless Behavior! Everyone forgets about them, but I remember!! Mrs. Right was a BOP

[@angiepm3826]

I saw stray kids and immediately clicked

[@jsspald]

ALSO we NEED a whole video on Lou Peralman

[@Maria-je6er]

I think that kpop is the innovative industry for both boygroups and girlgroups at the moment and that's why they have so much success. ( I mean a lot of it is of course based around the fandom culture and building insane parasocial relationships with fans, but that's a different topic). They are mixing things up with different concepts, so there are is always a group to your liking, wther it's a cute concept, a teen/girl crush concept, or a sexy mature concept, etc. Then there are the lineups with co-ed groups like Kard or rotational groups like NCT with all the subunits. You have the AI groups like Aespa and K/DA, or generally groups with a lot of lore around them. And of course, you have the self-produced idols, which I think is what attracts so many people to groups like Seventeen, Monsta X, Stray Kids, BTS, G-Idle, and many more. In fact, having groups write, compose and produce their own songs is one of the most ground-breaking things to come out of kpop (which is ironic, considering how manufactured the industry is). So yeah, I see kpop as dominating the group music scene for a couple more years at least, and then we'll see.

[@skzanarchist]

this is such an interesting video jasmine. would definitely love to see a video of stray kids

[@jiyoonenthusiast7709]

Hmm good video! I don't think there will be another western boy band anytime soon on the scale of previous ones because of how the perception of pop stars seems to have shifted. There seems to be more emphasis on making pop stars seem more authentic compared to before when all pop stars were ridiculed for being manufactured. With the stereotypes around boy bands I think it would be harder to market them with this kind of organic image that is trendy now.

[@91fallings]

when i tell you this literally my favourite content you put out. THANK YOU

[@macaronicheese.z]

thank you for mentioning japanese groups especially EXILE! I've been binging your videos and all of them are super interesting and fun to watch!

[@naeviastark]

feels weird to me that you named pretty much but not cnco bc they were marketed together for a little while, and i have always felt that cnco was the biggest boygroup of the time after one direction but skdkdjd i guess they are a very latinamerican experience. now that i think about it i actually miss watching their interviews and stuff, they used to do a bunch of interviews with the girls over at buzzfeed. anyway going off topic. jasmine is always such a joy to watch your channel 🥰

[@ellaronci2703]

Always makes my day when you post! currently watching the ads 'case we dont skip on this channel 😂. Super excited to see what you have to say, its always great.

[@nariman-eh8ux]

i see jasmine zade, i click.

[@caliiinoel]

okay i quite literally don’t have a steady yt channel but PLEASE let me be part of the lou pearlman video if you make. i have so so so much to say. also, this video made me feel like i should restart my channel bc people do care about the things i have to say, because you’re saying them and i’m listening!!! thank you for this

[@oliviajayward]

yes I have seen how these new western boybands are so boring these days like ive seen two tiktok boybands and they look so forced and their music isn't good. They just seem like they are trying to be the next one direction

[@ezzrin]

another day another jasmine zade slay

[@juliaalexander3242]

I ĺove boybands who doesn't want to see handsome guys dancing & singing. Also Frankie Valli & the four seasons were so influential on popular music. Just watch the Jersey Boys & you realise how many hits they had & how many groups have sampled their music. You missed one band of the 90's the Irish boyband Boyzone. My step daughter loved them. Very interesting video. Thanks

[@ifspedro]

stray kids world domination !!

[@ayoidek6571]

You make stray kids stay :3

[@skzanarchist]

so true

[@nastya1297]

I think when you talk about kpop struggling to break internationally, often time you mean 'in america' or in the west, lol. Great video, tho, as always. It would be super interesting to see a new big boyband coming from America or England. I wonder how would it look like nowadays. Would they go into the pop direction of 1D or more into what is trendy at the moment, like hiphop?

[@Maxzene]

It's always a good day when Jas uploads

[@Whatiskansolawatching]

Please do a case study of mindless behaviour. Those were my boys and it was sad when they stopped singing 😔

[@may-ui3ys]

would love to see a video on stray kids :)

[@12irissu14]

Westlife is actually from Ireland.

[@mindlesbhavior]

OMG PLEASE DO A CASE STUDY ON MINDLESS BEHAVIOR

[@EvaaRashid]

Love this insightful video. Btw, there are exceptions to the last bit about boybands struggling to reinvent themselves: After their reunion in 2005 after 10 years, Take That came back with a whole new sound and image that not only won 90s Thatters’ hearts again but also won over a whole new generation of fans. Their reunion album (Progress) with Robbie Williams gave them the best selling album by a group in the 2010s, beating even 1D and Westlife. Also, their reunion sparked other boybands like Boyzone and NKOTB to reunite and even BSB and 1D have admired ⫩’s comeback ever since it happened. So, we should never lose hope that we’ll see this happen again x

[@starrrssssss123]

STRAY KIDS ON THE THUMBNAIL OMG

[@andreil-g4t]

Stray kids

[@leeknow7212]

you should definitely make a video about stray kids, yes they are a korean boy group but many people don't consider them as kpop, in my opinion they are rising to be the next big boy group after bts, personally i didnt like kpop and didnt like bts's music (no hate just not my taste) but after hearing 1 stray kids song I was so blown away by how good they were, their music is so different, they have used over 40 genre in their discography so far, after releasing God's Menu they created their own genre that is now called the (mala taste), the most important thing is they're heavily self produced, they have 99% control over their music, from producing, arranging, composing, writing, creating choreography, etc.... ( fun fact: the members were handpicked by the leader himself, not the company, which is super rare in the kpop industry ). they're also more popular internationally than in korea, mostly because of usual kpop fans not liking their music and often calling it noise music, and another reason is because they have 2 australian members. so after just 4 years into their career they're already the most streamed kpop boy group after bts, and the 4th overall korean artist, what I'm saying is, I'm interested in your opinion about stray kids.

[@jot.r.3450]

thanks for sharing! you named a lot of the reasons why I like Stray Kids, too :) I'm genuinely interested in your opinion about BTS' music tho! You said you didn't like BTS' music but you love how versatile Stray Kids are. Because that's a thing I absolutely love about BTS as well! They have tried and mastered so many different genres, different members shine with different individual styles, and they are heavily self-produced and in control of their music as well! (interestingly, a trio in particular as well, just like 3Racha hehe) What I'm trying to ask is, is there a specific reason you didn't vibe with BTS' music? If not, that's totally valid and understandable as well :)

[@gngrbrds]

yesss omg i would love if jasmine did a video on them! hello fellow stay 🫶🏾

[@leeknow7212]

@@jot.r.3450 first of all I was a huge one direction fan for years so I was used to listening to that kinda music if you know what I mean, but in general I'm open to any genre, if I like the song I like it no matter who did it or what genre it is, so with the rise of bts's popularity, I was curious as everyone else so I checked out a couple of their songs, it was ok but I was not that impressed to became a stan iykyk, I still dont know much about their music because I haven't checked all their songs, but I know a lot about the members because my best friend is an army so naturally we share videos of skz and bts with each other, oh and another thing, we decided to make guide videos for each other, so we're currently working on that, maybe I'll like them more after I watch my friends video, as for the producing part I know some of the members are involved in it, but if you know skz (and you do), you know they're on a different level in that category, them being self produced was one of the reasons that made me like them more, oh and one other reason I was hesitant on bts was because I didnt like listening to music without understanding the lyrics so I didnt like kpop for that reason, not only kpop any other song that I couldnt understand. english is not my first language but I still listen to english songs because I can understand it, so my point is now that I listen to skz I dont really care about that anymore, but they made me interested in korean so I'm leraning korean now, and I'm willing to give more artists a chance, that's why my friend is trying to convert me into an army lol. omg this is so long, but I hope it answered your question

[@leeknow7212]

@@gngrbrds hello my friend 🎪🎉, exactly she was my fav 1d youtuber, so now as a stay I would love to see her take on it.

[@jot.r.3450]

@@leeknow7212 yes it did, thank you so much for taking time to answer me! :)

[@witabif]

thank you for helping me get through the last 15 minutes of work ❤

[@enid5873]

Hello There! (From England). This is my 1st viewing of your channel.

[@calinatinwe8257]

Super interesting video! 👍 Thank you so much for that! I’m kind of a boyband veteran myself… 😅 When I was 12 I was an official Take That fan club member, I met the Backstreet Boys when I was 17 and started traveling around Europe to see and meet Westlife when I was 18… 😂 Although there were always people giving you a weird look when the topic came up I never regretted being a fan and spending loads of money for CDs, concert tickets, merch and even flights and hotels - I have so many fond memories! 😊🙏 I actually thought for the last 15 years or so that I was kinda done with the phenomenon… but then I clicked on a random One Direction video and… well. Fangirling hard right now… 😅 And, yes, I’m 40. 😂 I have two small daughters and if they’ll ever love any band as much as I used to love Take That or Westlife I swear I’ll pack the up and join that travelling circus again! 😂 I’m also sure that there’ll be another BIG boyband eventually… and another after that… 😜

[@sophiecraft3158]

I’d love a video on mindless behaviour - I don’t know nearly enough about their careers

[@mao9598]

I love how you talked about this topic! Your videos are always very respectful and well researched

[@KiwiLipGloss]

I wish prettymuch were more well known

[@asiareema552]

pls we need a mindless behavior / omg girlz vid!!!

[@lll.24601]

I’m surprised that you mentioned SMAP. They were actually a part of a lot of kids’ childhood. I actually grew up with SMAP and other Japanese boy band’s music, especially SMAP’s ‘successors’, Arashi. Johnny’s Entertainment, the company who took care of SMAP isn’t talked about much, but there has been so much scandals from them. You need to dig down in order to find research, because there is so many shit that happened that time. They were one of the first companies to use the trainee system, something that could be popular within the Kpop industry.

[@gauthamkrishna623]

I always enjoy your evolution videos. They are always very well researched and presented in unique, relatable, and fun ways! Can we get an evolution of Bjork tho? Pleeaaassseeee???? She would be such an exciting person to look into, especially from the perspective of her artistic pop genre and often collaboration with hyper pop artists!

[@EnchantedTooWell]

You forgot to mention Boyzone (Irish Boyband in the 90’s)

[@bellereinette2938]

One of the reasons I think it's difficult for any group (boy or girl) outside of the K-Pop Space to pop is bc K-Pop has pretty much taken over the "pop group" space & the only way I can explain that is bc I think K-Pop companies took the Boy/Girl group fourmula paired it with their own training formula made famous by one SM Entertainment! & after years go by members while being in the group would have solos, act in K-Dramas & youtube even (Solar from Mamamoo has her own youtube channal) & yes of couese groups do disband, or a member would leave to focus on their solo endeavors or simply to get away from the company but would still stay in the group & comeback with the group (Taecyeon from 2PM is a great example on this or most recently Wheein from Mamamoo heck Girls Generation (SNSD) a couple months back announced a comeback for their 15th Anniversery as a group dispite most of the members no longer being with SM Entertainment & the group being on hiatus for the past 5 years, & also GOT7 did such a revolutionary thing, all members left JYP Entertainment about a year ago, & all members stressed to their fans they wasn't disbanding & they had a plan, & they didn't, they insted took the name rights & the 7 members are the first K-Pop group to own their name rights & came back a couple weeks ago finally making the music they want to make all the while they will do their solo stuff & are planning to come togeether every couple years to make coming together as a group again special) also every group has a set concept (Example's (these are the easiest to explain so I sticked with these examples, Blackpink & Red Velvet's concept is they have 2 diffrent sides or 2 different concepts, The Pink Concept of Blackpink or The Red Side of RV is the Sweet, Bright & Girly side of the groups while The Black Concept of Blackpink or The Velvet Side of RV is the Darker & Edger side of the groups (& the legendery R&B bops by Red Velvet & their vocals that would leave you shook!!) & NCT (aka NEO CULTURE TECHNOLGY) concept is that they can littrally have an infinate amount of members (currently 22 & counting!!) & can have units (groups INSIDE the group) around the world including Korea (NCT has NCT 127 & NCT DREAM both based in Korea while NCT U is an everchanging line up bc it's basically the members that fits the concept of that particular song) also I think somthing as simple as K-Pop's album packaging makes you intreaged on why does it look so different, why is their different versions of one album, why is their so many stuff in it, why do people make such a big fuss over photocards (which as a photocard collector, it helps me clear my mind & get it off toxic shit, so I'm like EXCUSE ME!!😂) & other stuff like merch, seasons greetings, signing up for VLIVE or WEVERSE, lightsticks, the series of live shows & an act can win those shows (it's like Top of The Pops or TRL? meets The X Factor if I had to explain it), K-Pop is like another world, thats the only way to put it. I do know theres record labels from the states reaching out to K-Pop companies (example would be Olivia Rodrigo's record company & HYBE developing a girl group together & whatever is going on with NCT Hollywood or whatever it'll be called (since NCT China ended up being called WayV & thank God!) knowing that & knowing theres quite a few groups out there that find it difficult time to get noticed I would like to hear your veiws on this?

[@sirin48102]

LOVE UR CHANNEL!!!

[@Itzzkaren]

" Why don't we" are THE band for me unfortunately they're still not that popular but eventually when they get out of this lawsuit, they're gonna get what they deserve! ( Btw jasmine did a video on their case) They're so Talented, they all can sing and have different ranges and they all play instruments, you never see a band of 5 that can sing and play instruments, they're known for their amazing harmonies And also concerning the fandom I've seen a lot of people in their 20s or older so it's not all teens You guys should definitely check them out!

[@12irissu14]

The Vamps and New Hope Club are missing from this Video.

[@AlexanderDaniel]

the vamps yesss !!!!!!! i’m still waiting for them to come back to america and tour, they’re definitely near the top of my fav list for me 😭

[@nicholasrobinson8798]

Here are my top 10 boy bands. 1. The Jackson 5 2. New Kids On The Block 3. New Edition 4. Boyz ll Men 5. Backstreet Boys 6. Nsync 7. One Direction 8. 5ive 9. The Temptations 10. BTS

[@MaddyRadtke]

This may be a random personal observation but possibly boybands haven't been as popular right now because personally I have been really gravitating towards women. I want to hear what they have to say, their experiences, etc. I'm less into male artists right now compared to when I was young and longed for that male validation and perspective. Now I want to hear more music that I relate to from my perspective

[@t_t560]

tmb es que en corea las votaciones son cada semana, cada comeback que hacen tus favs, hay votaciones en los music show (que encima para nosotros cae en horario de madrugada a eso de las 3am o 2am) 22:50 creo que en el kpop el hecho que nadie ande desesperado por el el siguiente "big boy band" es porque la fama les llega asi noma, no es que anden modo simon cowell promocionando hasta las patas. Es como ellos lanzan la musica y los fans llegan por si solos, y con eso la popularidad. Actulamente grupos como: stray kids, ateez, nct, txt, enhypen,seventeen, etc la andan rompiendo. Algunos de los grandes grupos de la 3rd generation andan en hiatus por lo del servicio militar (aka exo y bts). Actualmente en el kpop anda dominando los girl groups (ive, leserafim, newjeans, g idle) Además ten en cuenta que en el kpop, es más facil para las empresas decir "tal grupo se disuelve" que mantenerlos en hiatus. La verdad aqui no tienen porque darle falsas esperanzas a los fans con que van a entrar en hiatus y apliquen la de 1D. En el kpop hiatus significa hiatus (que generalmente es por el servicio militar, depende de la cantidad de miembros y en el orden en que se alisten y de eso demora el hiatus). porque es más facil disolver que poner en un hiatus tipo 1d a los grupos? porque cada dia debutan grupos nuevos, a veces tmb solistas. La competencia es fuerte y generalmente la gente prefiere gente nueva con nuevos conceptos :v

[@1doreolover_07]

Have you know there's another 1d channel who uploads 1d audios and 1d fanmade videos right now and one of the boys own the channel for the twelfth anniversary. I just want your opinion abt it...

[@1doreolover_07]

This is the link of the channel: kzbin.info/door/tpIGVbSlHpgCZ5_PDmDbUA

[@bedirascioglu8243]

Your talking voice >>>

[@shreyalove715]

22:03 please i laughed so hard-

[@mathildekeller848]

sooooo interesting, i a gonna watch all your videos right now

[@jasminalopez4618]

I have never seen a boyband on tiktok, that is a good point......

[@temellla.]

HEYYY IM EARLY FINALLY. Also where did you get your shirt?

[@AlexanderDaniel]

i was literally BLASTING girls talkin bout on my way to work today 😫 what a bop

[@mattypusce4396]

Yeah on tik tok there are some boybands but I don't remember their name, one it's band full of gay man and it's super cool and original ; in south america there is CNCO which is a pretty massive group, in Italy there is "il volo" which is a trio of opera singers (don't know of they can be considered boy band ahahah)

[@redberryterf]

I really enjoyed this video. Great content 🥰✌️