The Evolution of Language, linguistic models

In this video John Grinder presents an interesting metaphor for how human beings evolved from the naming function to forming linguistic models for the relationships between the objects and people being named. Linguistic representations form our secondary maps which code our experience, it's on these maps the NLP language patterns are applied!

[@NetiNeti25920]

100,000 years of Human Language evolution distilled into 10 minutes. Brilliant. Waiting for in person sessions to start in 2022. One session with the Grinder school and one with the Bandler school each. Life is set.

[@yvesandrethevenot3489]

One of the few genuine scientists in NLP. A brilliant linguist and modeler.

[@NLPacademy]

Great feedback, thank you for being a subscriber

[@NetiNeti25920]

Well he co-invented NLP with Richard Bandler, sir.

[@yvesandrethevenot3489]

@@NetiNeti25920 I know. I've actually studied with him a bit. A long time ago.

[@zgs12212012]

John is demonstrating the linguistic illusion of Cause and Effect in Living Systems. Personal responsibility for your emotions is not insanity by any means.

[@ravimalhan2303]

Sir, you are great. Loved to attend your first video. Thank you so much Sir.

[@DarishaPink]

Amazing truth and wisdom! Thank you!!

[@ismaielwaheed4300]

Brilliant John Grinder. Thanks cheers.

[@blacktortoise6812]

Thank you for spelling it out crystal clear.

[@alberoDiSpazio]

Balls into cats, intern into choice; I believe this man is trying to free your mind.

[@masterhypnosisnow4628]

Like the metaphor of the cat vs. the ball. Interesting idea: the cat will move according to their experience, the ball basically responds to your force.

[@bugsm6108]

I been an armchair nlp follower for a while. This has to be the video that has had the most profound effect on me. Balls into cats. Such a good analogy

[@jackfenn7524]

Classic "Do what you did, get what you got" training. What I call "Crocodile Brain Technology." Works better than anything else I have ever tried.

[@zgs12212012]

@GosseBosma - Having the choice to feel and act what and how you want is a basic key to living well. And that is what I think that he is offering here.

[@anamarianegrut]

Great description of cause efect in our day to day basis. Thank you very much.

[@DamonCart]

I would have loved to have seen Grinder and Bandler teach together in the early days. Their styles are so different.

[@judichristopher4604]

Very True!!! I have been doing NLP since the late 70s....

[@slavimirvesic1017]

Excellent lesson Sir !

[@JohnSmith-un9jm]

grinder uses self awareness techniques to denude oneself of troublesome but essential emotions so that one may fit easier into the cog of the wheel, without any appreciable increase of personal knowledge of the outside world.

[@autoclinicwreckerservice9918]

"How can words change feelings? This is insanity" (8:57).... yet here we are, using words to trying to find the words that CAN change feelings. My head hurts.

[@ChristopherRyanHypnosis]

Wonderful stuff! Words of true wisdom, from a true master of his art. A role model for sure!

[@Avenger222]

I'm having a hard time following. "My teenager made me angry when they arrived late." The cause "teenager" and effect "made angry". The words aren't what what made someone angry, but the fact that they were late. Unless I guess he's specifically taking about the "now" and the memory/thought of the teenager arriving late was the thing that made them angry? In which case, I totally agree, because you're giving power to the words to control how you're currently feeling? Am I understanding that right?

[@erasmusso]

Is there a continuation of this video? I'd really like to see it.

[@ShapingIndianMindsforGrowth]

Please share this full recording if you may! I’m CliffHung midway!!!

[@anupambanerjee8924]

Life changing

[@brokenjets]

where can i get more like this?

[@c.4234]

Great mind!

[@jeanfrancoisdetaille]

Great John!

[@jimmy2035]

It was so basic that it actually came across as confusing.

[@blacktortoise6812]

Ohhh that's why I'm lost

[@busysingleveganonabudget4676]

This is really good. Convert people from balls into cats.

[@summondadrummin2326]

Hmmmm Gork Clever.... and while the idea of not letting words affect our feelings seems appealing~ what and when would we let words affect our feelings? When would we know to let certain signals in? Grandma said she loves me 'oh isn't that cute the deluded old lady is muttering sounds of affection'

[@BeStSkAtErBoY]

Summondadrummin23 good question

[@GaRciiA805]

Summondadrummin23 i guess its up to you, the one, to deduce when words should hold some.kind of weight intrinsically.

[@terapiasintegradorasPNL]

Orígenes del Pensamiento Generativo a través del Lenguaje. En este Vídeo John Grinder nos explica cómo el Lenguaje influye y es originador del pensamiento creativo

[@Sbannmarie298]

Eleven years ago???

[@nlp4893]

Is this new code or classic

[@rva]

I find him attractive

[@Alnasrlina]

He has a good moustache

[@blacktortoise6812]

Are you old?

[@lunielu9218]

Oh my gosh Rebecca definitely didnt expect to see you here 🤡

[@sedat4151]

Why are the ladies always (generalization) making things about appearance?

[@macking420]

True. I thumbed down premature my conclusive opinion, oops. Linguistic illusion would in my opinion be better stated in quotations (ie. ``linguistic illusion``)

[@bigrobogbr4230]

Mostly what he's talking about is "Constructive Social Modeling"

[@clrenzo]

I agree with what you state and in many ways what Mr. Grinder is proposing here. But certain scenarios come to mind. What about mourning, or trauma, or rape. I know we have choice to look at these things differently, but how do you think he would say we should relate to these things? I am just confused.

[@saidnobodyever711]

Anyone else come here expecting an intro to Natural Language Processing?

[@11vag]

theycallmebruceful here 🖐🏾 .... pretty upset when I found out what all this circus was about.

[@TC-cv1dg]

Only if you're idiot.

[@lovethyself741]

So if I go out and kick a cat, I'll turn into a sabre-toothed tiger?

[@RSEFX]

I think what he is saying is that it is best to make sure that the cat isn't a sabre tooth tiger before you kick it. Also that water is not a rock, and if you think it is then cavemen will laugh at you. I'm sure that I am correct about this. What other possibility is there? (Well, maybe that kicking a sabre tooth tiger in the balls will send you flying farther than you ever imagined possible?)

[@ayetoday]

Wow.

[@shawarmageddonit]

... And yet, he's up there using words to ideally impact how all those people think and act. Do Grinder/Bandler have an official theoretical explanation for this?

[@BenVaserlan]

The 3gp was downloaded.

[@c.4234]

Is it in Columbia Hotel?

[@skyjuke2006]

if words doesn't affect your emotions, also a punch in the face, because after all, in a few minutes the pain will go away, and what it remains is only a thought of that moment. Bah! So this is deep state of mind, satori, may be, not real life.

[@cakdian]

Permit to download this video please, for personal use only. Thank You

[@omark4649]

just download it bro

[@clrenzo]

I agree with what Mr. Grinder is proposing here in many ways. But certain scenarios come to mind. What about mourning, or trauma, or rape. I know we have choice to look at these things differently [and or identify with them], but how do you think he would say we should relate to these things? I am just confused. What is the goal of NLP?

[@richardbruce8111]

Grinder is pointing out the reality that how we feel about words is a choice!The reaction in our brain is INSIDE US, but a hit is a physical reality!We (at least some of us)can remain dispassionate to even the worst news!

[@RSEFX]

In a nutshell (or thimble, or whatever tiny thing), it's an overly-complicated way (in my opinion) of thinking about the truth and meaning of the old phrase "sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me".

[@yousefyegane]

I think insult is like showing teeth in animals. It's not insanity, it's natural.

[@behaviorevolution1245]

Under behavioral technology, the identification "I drink water" would happen after the need to request, such as "I want water." There is more necessity to requesting.

[@paulolivier3254]

1%

[@peacock427]

perhaps music became, evolutionary, an attempt to reinsert the experiential value of perception back into those original implicit processing heuristic. but perception is not knowledge. that is why a holographic language is needed. Take Hebrew;

[@SuperRealmen]

Your teen not being physically present is painful

[@thesurvivorssanctuary6561]

Great lesson, 😁 I'd argue though that the Metanarrative, or Ideology, that a person uses to describe life's purpose and meaning HAS PHYSICS! Pride(reinforcement+), Shame(degradation-), Arrogance(artificial inflation×z), and Depression(perpetual division by zero). The physics are just about Self-Worth, and thusly cause Emotional movements. Ergo, words can hurt when they sufficiently attack your worldview; And some attacks(like loss) cannot be avoided, because they come from what you define yourself with. There's no defense against beloved ones attacking your vulnerable points with words.(unless you choose "forever alone"😢) There's only recovery.

[@thesurvivorssanctuary6561]

Even our tribal ancestors without speech were vulnerable to Enotional Attacks. It's just, while those attacks were disapproving and/or angry grunts, in the modern age we can be devastated by only two words, "You're Fired!", or only one word: ..."no."... 😘

[@thesurvivorssanctuary6561]

I'd argue that our emotional defenses should easily be up against "strangers" insults, because they have little significance in "the play", that is our EGO. Srsly, 99.99999% of people will have the same effect on our lives as BACKGROUND CHARACTERS do on a Protagonists story. They don't even get a "one dimensional" expository line! However, our "supporting cast", (family, friends, and heroes) make up the majority of our Emotional Constellation. These relationships DEFINE significance, and thus Memory intensity and allocation. Essentially, we are mostly an amalgamation of our Loved Ones Beliefs and Values plus Our Individual Memories(it's kind of like these people(and the literal THINGS that bind us) are the FIRST branches of our memory Tree.). tl;dr Strangers aren't important, so they can't hurt us(unless we have low self-esteem, and require validation to "get up on our feet" at all). But, Loved Ones and our shared experience makes us who we are, so they can always hurt us(even using a single word, eg. "NO!", "STUPID!", and "WORTHLESS!" etc...)

[@retrovirus61]

Jesus how short is your attention span? Hes trying to give a basic account of the nature and importance of language in less than ten minutes.

[@judichristopher4604]

RIGHT!!!!

[@RSEFX]

I believe he is saying that if you go around kicking cats you deserve to have your balls kicked (figuratively in the case of 50 percent of the population). (I base this on the presumption he is discussing cats that are alive rather than, say, road kill. In the case of the latter, he'd likely just say you are crazy and no amount of NLP will help since it will No Longer Pertain.)

[@dawzo]

I guess its automatic.

[@somethingsomethingdangerzo2107]

I don't understand anything, am I stupid ?

[@conscious_shift]

No, there's nothing here to understand

[@TC-cv1dg]

Wow...for the man with the key to words...Brandler used a bunch of words and said NOTHING.

[@masterhypnosisnow4628]

Bandler is doing NLP on you. Big difference. His model of teaching is centered on what he calls installation through nested loops. You really need to go to or watch full seminars to get the effect. Bandler does have many short videos where he describes stuff clearly. Just look for videos that are interviews, not chunks of his seminars. Those chunks are also usually not released by him... [And his older stuff, e.g. Creating Therapeutic Change, explain the techniques in painstaking detail.]

[@blacktortoise6812]

How am I supposed to accept your authority on this? I don't really have the time to vet this and go halfway only to learn there's a big hole in the theory.

[@Ophelia11]

@@blacktortoise6812 Either you take the time to research the topic on your own or you stay at the mercy of what other people are telling you. There is no in between.

[@crusty21]

Taxonomic = concerned with the classification of things, especially organisms. A genius level vocabulary tries to explain NLP fundamentals in 10 min.... good luck.

[@universal144K]

Before we speak 🗣️ we just do. What happened to telepathy 🤣 We had to lower ourselves to explain ourselves. Hence, the failure of our current regime.

[@Julescavarretta]

Ugh my stupid dad makes me each these videos

[@judichristopher4604]

???? Your sentence does not make any sense. ???

[@blacktortoise6812]

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