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For The Love Of Rugby

For The Love Of Rugby

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@jayduplessis7698
@jayduplessis7698 2 ай бұрын
A huge reason why the Springboks have been so dominant for the last few years is the fact that Rassie convinced SA Rugby to select overseas players. Because it turned around one of the biggest threats to our rugby, which was overseas clubs (in England, France, Japan, etc.) continuously poaching our best players - and poaching them from lower and younger levels - and it turned this reality into a strength, because now we no longer have to rely on only the four top SA teams to develop our players.... now we have the top French, English, Irish, Japanese, etc. clubs helping us to develop our players... And when they show themselves to be good enough, we just take them back! Genius.
@hopeaguero7460
@hopeaguero7460 2 ай бұрын
Wrong these countries have SA players physical and well coached and strong and that’s what attracted these countries to have South African rugby players with hope of thinking their own players can pick up skills and mentality that South African players have’ but it is all around SA learn this countries game and use it against them for SA is a win win as English fans SA is winning wages we pay them to learn our weaknesses and beat us..
@cheekynative
@cheekynative 2 ай бұрын
You've got it backwards mate
@jayduplessis7698
@jayduplessis7698 2 ай бұрын
@@hopeaguero7460 sorry, what ? That makes no sense
@Goisis88
@Goisis88 2 ай бұрын
Well observed. With NZ and England still not adopting the global selection policy, they will stay a step or two behind the Springboks in the test arena
@XolaKhalipha
@XolaKhalipha 2 ай бұрын
​@@hopeaguero7460What word salad are you on about?
@EbrahimKeraan-t4w
@EbrahimKeraan-t4w Ай бұрын
The reason for SA RUGBY being so huge, is the fact that you have school boys rugby, the Craven week, then you have the university championship, Currie Cup, URC, and then international rugby. The platform is laid from a young age and that's the difference from the rest of the world
@lwandamfenqe2056
@lwandamfenqe2056 2 ай бұрын
Dont ever forget Felix Jones's contribution, we regarded that man as a South African
@arnodk2852
@arnodk2852 Ай бұрын
And Andy Edwards and Deon Davids and Daan Human and Mzwandile Stick and Aled Walters and Swys de Bruin.
@mvumsiayo3214
@mvumsiayo3214 2 ай бұрын
You can dress it up however you like, but the fact that SA are a multicultural team...drawing on the unique strengths of the different races...is a huge deal. Now, before you say this is racist. Cheslin and Arendse...smaller coloured guys with insane speed and dexterity. Eben and company, large white guys of Dutch origin. Ox, Bongi...black South Africans who are generally shorter but when they are "wider" there is no stronger group of people on the planet. And this is how rugby is proving to us that it truly is game a for everybody, of any race or size. Long live the greatest game on earth.
@stuartwood9339
@stuartwood9339 2 ай бұрын
Transformation has been achieved at the maximum level… so glad to see the entire team being selected on merit, because every single one of our lads are world class and are 100% meant to be there. And to see these gents coming from all walks of life, from Mapimpi and Kolisi being dirt poor and having nothing, to some of the lads who came through the private school system. It’s an amazing mixture of South Africans and it’s so awesome to see how far our country has come following its horrific past
@KingKhyron
@KingKhyron 2 ай бұрын
​@@stuartwood9339Coulnt agree more. We truly deserve this... we had to go thru hell to get here
@sedickdavis-tq2lk
@sedickdavis-tq2lk 2 ай бұрын
It's like a dream that has come true. Viva South Africa, viva Mzansi, love you Rassie Siya PSdT Eben and Cheslyn.... You washed away years of pain on many levels.
@Goggawie
@Goggawie 2 ай бұрын
A-ja-a 🎉
@internationalconsultant1200
@internationalconsultant1200 Ай бұрын
Spot on !
@haggiesm
@haggiesm Ай бұрын
Thank you guys. A lot of podcasts and youtube channels from the home nations are so biased and in part even hostile towards the Boks. It's nice to hear a nuanced outside perspective on my team. What I love bout the current team (squads, group of 50 players) is their adaptability. Yes, Tony Brown's influence means a lot of change and newness, but when that hasn't worked (mostly because they're not used to it yet) they can bring it back to basics and just manage games. The match against England was a good example.
@eugeneduplessis140
@eugeneduplessis140 2 ай бұрын
Lovely to hear positive remarks about South Africa, Springboks and our impact on the URC. ❤
@jksinorbit
@jksinorbit 2 ай бұрын
Football is by faaaaar the biggest sport in SA like 80/20 but as the black population is revelling in the success of the Boks it is changing fast, so yes rugby still has huge potential to grow
@QuintinStrydom-x6u
@QuintinStrydom-x6u Ай бұрын
I think you are right on the defense approach. The world has not yet figured out how to get past our defense. I think the reality is that our defense is a function of the players capability. We have really clever defensive players in PSTD and Faf. But they are getting old and new players are coming in. So Rassie is innovating by breaking the springboks pattern before others do. That is how we will stay ahead of the pack
@FrancoisSauer-ys3qc
@FrancoisSauer-ys3qc 2 ай бұрын
The success is totally because of Rassie,what keeps me excited is most coaches of teamsport get not foundout but like England in semi of W/C played the match the conditions perfect and they were stiff.Rassie is taking us in a direction with Brown appointment to be a very diffucult team to read and prepare for.If you going to beat boks in coming years you have to beat a team that will take you on, but also a team that can play you expansively,offloads running lines,big word is striving for total rugby.The size of the players is well documented,tallest Europeans the Dutch 60% of people under Afrikaners"who is rugby crazy"are Dutch who have been eating meet three times a day for 370 years most as 12 generation South Africans.These guy are naturally big,they gym what,what but also is naturally that size,not saying a smaller guy pumped up wont recover as easy after game,but food for thought.As far as expanding and getting better our coloured community although not the size these guy's can run are tuff people "who knows Wade v Niekerk" who beat Michael Johnsons world 400m reckort is Chestlin Kolbe cousin,sorry N.Z. you have had best wingers for years,but there is real speed masjine getting into rugby.I stay in N.K.Z.N. the local Zulu guys are Nquni from middle afrika"not sure countrys" but huge people.After two worldcup victorys there is motivated kids who is huge,and will soon be drafted into big rugby schools.Watch out we are comming.
@theroogie
@theroogie 2 ай бұрын
Everyone is singing Tony Browns praises but they forget the platform that has been set by Daan Human and Deon Davids
@Dee-Dee-y2k
@Dee-Dee-y2k 2 ай бұрын
They are integral to the team dynamic.
@sdewviljoen
@sdewviljoen 2 ай бұрын
Squidge, I truly admire you but every time you say Naainaber I want to set Ox and PSdT on you!! Naai has a very specific meaning in every of SA 11 languages 😅😅😅Pls try Knee’na’ber? Maybe that helps? Your contribution to rugby deserves medals and I wish you the best tickets to every game you wish to attend!
@Ravens1300
@Ravens1300 2 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Kid_Senekal
@Kid_Senekal 2 ай бұрын
I shouldn't laugh but 🤣🤣🤣
@TheSkiers
@TheSkiers 2 ай бұрын
🤣🤣Yes Squidgy try “knee-na-ber”
@colinwhite6904
@colinwhite6904 2 ай бұрын
Naai-knobber? Good name for one's lightsabre... 😏
@pietervanderriet9968
@pietervanderriet9968 2 ай бұрын
And it’s RASSIE not RAZZIE! But hang in there Squidge we do love your contribution
@davesmith826
@davesmith826 2 ай бұрын
It starts at the grassroots. Watch the Craven Week highlights on KZbin. SA produces hundreds of elite juniors every year, and by 'elite' I mean capable of earning a professional contract. It's from that wellspring that Rassie draws his talent. He brought Brown in to tap into it, and in particular to tap in to backline players and loose forwards with distribution skills. He's set up an alignment group to ensure that the coaches at a junior level are adopting the same systems and coaching the same fundamentals at the seniors level. If things get progressing as they are and the country does not fall off a cliff (it could), then SA will become even more difficult to beat.
@ronm4385
@ronm4385 2 ай бұрын
The thing about Rassie, he is a great coach and all but his biggest attribute is that he is a genuinely good person as well. I have had the privilege of meeting him and he is just unbelievable without even trying.
@alexanderjermaineabrahams1615
@alexanderjermaineabrahams1615 2 ай бұрын
his the evil genius in every comic book too. Dr Rassie is a mad scientist sometimes we never know what his going to pull out of his bag of tricks
@SNOK1986
@SNOK1986 2 ай бұрын
Reason why we getting such talent coming through is we are scouting them while they are in school. Putting them into youth camps that are nurtured through their High School career and then filtered into the provincial sides (U20 and then opens). This allows for players to not slip through the cracks. Where as before you would finish High School and then probably go to Uni or start a job and a lot of the times forget about rugby. This time the bridge from High School to Provincial teams is seamless. Sasha was one of these talents that went through this process.
@Ravens1300
@Ravens1300 2 ай бұрын
And we're keeping some of our best talents instead of losing them to overseas scouts
@toma411
@toma411 2 ай бұрын
The drugs at an early age probably helps too.
@Ravens1300
@Ravens1300 2 ай бұрын
@@toma411 whatever comforts you
@MorkelErasmus
@MorkelErasmus 2 ай бұрын
@@toma411you sound like you are talking from experience?
@toma411
@toma411 2 ай бұрын
@@MorkelErasmus Yeah I can spot a fellow roid-head when I see one. Sharks are full of em
@daviddempster8717
@daviddempster8717 2 ай бұрын
Well done, circumstantially the timing is interesting. Always good to hear Squidge talk rugby.
@yandisakoko7621
@yandisakoko7621 2 ай бұрын
Springboks are still operating at 85% cause they are experimenting by playing A and B teams every game or two, and they are still the best team. 2026 for World Rugby will be interesting for the Rugby community heading to the Rugby World Cup in 2027.
@SAPPERBRAVO
@SAPPERBRAVO 2 ай бұрын
A lot of people don't know that Rassie, has actually been working Rugbys evolution for years before he even took over the Springboks. He created OUTFOX a computer analytic system that's helped WORLD RUGBY from national sides to clubs with player stats to rebuilding SARU's rugby foundation from ground up, grassroots, males and females on merit and zero discrimination. His influence goes beyond what people see for the Springboks, to how we are run to where the players can play to learn how to be versatile from other leagues to bring that knowledge back to help the national side. On paper, he has accomplished more than the big wigs in world rugby ever has/had.
@Goggawie
@Goggawie 2 ай бұрын
Wow ❤
@skellator4848
@skellator4848 2 ай бұрын
Just FYI. Its mandatory to attend the 1st team game on a Saturday at noon. Even if you play u14 G team at 8am (yes we have that many teams at the big boys schools).
@mazibukomail
@mazibukomail 2 ай бұрын
2 things: Soccer, like in the UK, is the biggest sport in South Africa but another thing that has not been mentioned in assessing the strength of SA rugby is Varsity Cup competition. This is our university competition and has produced over 60 players, including 13 WC winners including Etzebeth, Nche, De Allende, Pollard, De Jager, Koch, Mostert, Mbonambi, Snyman, Nkosi, Libbok, Arendse.
@kwedini1181
@kwedini1181 2 ай бұрын
We can add Edwill As well there😊😊
@RafiqPhillips
@RafiqPhillips 2 ай бұрын
A third: Craven Week
@liamward6649
@liamward6649 2 ай бұрын
Rugby has overtaken soccer mate. No one watches it in SA. Stadiums are completely empty except for Soweto derby. No one watches on TV, literally no one. Springbok games and URC games have huge viewership and stadium attendances for URC is increasing now as well. Averaging about 30k excluding Lions. Rugby wins in every metric
@mazibukomail
@mazibukomail 2 ай бұрын
@@liamward6649 This is simple. If you take a RANDOM cross-sample of 100 South Africans and asked them to rank their favourite sport, there is no doubt that soccer would be no 1. However, if you asked your friends, I'm sure it will be rugby. What rugby does is that is has the biggest cultural capital whereas its viewerbase is considerably more affluent than the decidedly working class soccer but that does not make it the most popular, just more commercial.
@jean-pierreduven7234
@jean-pierreduven7234 2 ай бұрын
@@liamward6649 Soccer is still the most popular sport in SA
@colinmccabe5526
@colinmccabe5526 2 ай бұрын
As a South African I’ve lived in the UK, NZ, Australia and have gotten to know each uniquely tribal rugby community. I love that SA are winning but a part of me remembers losing interest in test cricket at the time when Australia dominating everyone for years, it was great if you were Australian but suspect cricket suffered globally. From that perspective I think rugby is in a great position with France, SA, Ireland and New Zealand being so close but think we need at least another 3 or 4 teams in that group with the top dog regularly being knocked off, a couple falling out of the group and a couple returning. I want my northern hemisphere team Wales to have a turn and Australia has suffered enough now.
@jayduplessis7698
@jayduplessis7698 2 ай бұрын
Another big difference that Rassie made was with player identification and development, which caught players who would've previously slipped through the cracks, and which also meant the selection of players who would've usually NOT been selected for the Springboks (e.g. 'small' players, inexperienced players, etc.)... and he was able to give these players confidence (another element that seemed to be lacking in the past, when we were used to seeing players buckle under the pressure).
@Ravens1300
@Ravens1300 2 ай бұрын
I'm eternally grateful for Dr Rassie
@malcolmvanhilten125
@malcolmvanhilten125 2 ай бұрын
Squidge your insight went way over the fireplace with these two.
@Hrodwulf9
@Hrodwulf9 2 ай бұрын
South Africans are naturally competitive. We don't frown upon the spirit of competition and it's inculcated in us from a young age because of our rank in the world generally and resources being few and hard to come by.
@dimitardobrev3296
@dimitardobrev3296 2 ай бұрын
What a refreshing show! New Sub from SA.
@shafiekjacobs5284
@shafiekjacobs5284 2 ай бұрын
Being based in Cape town I'm blessed with school rugby derby's. At least 20 thousand in attendance at the Paarl schools derby.. Epic rivalry !!!!
@TimothyHandley
@TimothyHandley 2 ай бұрын
Great to see Squidge again. I watch his channel all the time. Now I'm watching yours. From Tim: a Saffa in Taipei.
@JuicyJLee
@JuicyJLee 2 ай бұрын
Where is Taipei?? Send love from rainy Durban 🇿🇦😎
@JohnSmith-wo2fz
@JohnSmith-wo2fz 2 ай бұрын
@@JuicyJLee Capital of US occupied Chinese territory.
@coryellcoryell1
@coryellcoryell1 2 ай бұрын
@@JuicyJLee Taiwan.
@mariusgrobler
@mariusgrobler 2 ай бұрын
Kudos, boys! Rassie makes a difference. It is hard enough to play against 15, but when synergy turns 15 into 16, it gets worse.
@Kull707
@Kull707 2 ай бұрын
Squidge is a freaking rugby genius, literally.
@kelvinnkomo8124
@kelvinnkomo8124 2 ай бұрын
Rassie did this thing during the Ireland Tour where he compared the teams weight compared to Ireland. There was literally less than 5kg difference (Ireland weighed more). South Africans aren't big. We're just naturally strong, that's all
@nicholausvanheerden3470
@nicholausvanheerden3470 2 ай бұрын
Ek stem saam.
@JohnSmith-wo2fz
@JohnSmith-wo2fz 2 ай бұрын
The avg. was brought down because SA wingers are small/lightweight.
@daveharris1800
@daveharris1800 2 ай бұрын
The only reason there was a 5kg difference was because Eben got circumcised the week before
@coatknight
@coatknight 2 ай бұрын
​​@JohnSmith-wo2fz he compared the forwards.
@Ravens1300
@Ravens1300 2 ай бұрын
@@daveharris1800 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Hiltok
@Hiltok 2 ай бұрын
Ebbs and flows in emphasis on building phases versus kicking early are related to trends reffing. When breakdown interpretations tighten up on what defenders are allowed to get away with, advantage phase play; when refs loosen up on the defenders or tighten up on the attacking teams cleaners, back to earlier kicks.
@Larry-g7f
@Larry-g7f 2 ай бұрын
South Africa!they don't know what we know
@mlisto293
@mlisto293 2 ай бұрын
Hulle weet nie wat ons weet nie
@brandonstclair898
@brandonstclair898 2 ай бұрын
Will be great if the top teams experiment more to evolve the game. Even if it means a loss here and there. Springboks took a huge gamble and it paid off.
@spencercourtis777
@spencercourtis777 2 ай бұрын
South Africa have always had expansive and highly skilled players. The problem was the one route physical minded coaches all the years who frustratingly inhibited our attacking ability. Finally, our brute force has merged with our skillset making SA near invincible.
@oldman774
@oldman774 2 ай бұрын
Boks aren't dominating, the Irish have our number. There is still a lot more we have to do to dominate. I think the important thing now is the Boks are in every match, they don't get blown away. Whilst they have won 15 of their last 18 matches the ons they lost were by 5, 1 and 1 29:17
@mtabrahams
@mtabrahams 2 ай бұрын
We still have the better head to head. But you right, they do have our number right now. I fully expect that to change.
@christoserfontein4621
@christoserfontein4621 2 ай бұрын
😂
@RoryDowd-o2q
@RoryDowd-o2q 2 ай бұрын
@@mtabrahams If Ireland have won 4 of the last 5 I wouldn't say you have the better head to head. Matches over about 20 years ago don't matter much do they?
@Narapoia1
@Narapoia1 2 ай бұрын
Watched the highlights from all the RC games last night. Apart from the last game we didn't really dominate against NZ, and Oz are so poor at the moment I'd have expected bigger margins. Plus we couldn't beat Ireland twice at home. That said, we are trying a new way of playing and have blooded a ton of new players, so to mostly win with those caveats is very positive but it's far from clinical & dominating at this stage.
@Narapoia1
@Narapoia1 2 ай бұрын
If you are looking at the head to head numbers they do, by definition.
@andrejansevanrensburg7285
@andrejansevanrensburg7285 2 ай бұрын
Great show, thank you 👍🏻
@rogerarnold6248
@rogerarnold6248 2 ай бұрын
To me the major change in rugby has been the 50-22 which now restricts defences more and makes phase play more of an option. And with the laws moving away from a lot of reset scrums there is more in play time which again makes phase play a better style. With England going down the defence/kick chase tactics. Do you think they will become more consistent in 6 nations?
@gideonjoubert7692
@gideonjoubert7692 2 ай бұрын
The departure of Nienaber caused Rassie to rethink his approach with the staff he acquired
@randomlyfactual1943
@randomlyfactual1943 2 ай бұрын
I have a personal conspiracy theory that Nienaber coaching Leinster - who is basically the whole Irish team - is a move that is going to play into Rassie's hands. If I could bet on something, it would be on Nienaber rejoining the coaching unit a few months before the next world cup.
@ciaranbrk
@ciaranbrk 2 ай бұрын
It’s suspected that’s only for a few years before the next World Cup and that he may go back unless Leinster win no silverware this year in which case he may be made head coach .
@khuzechristopherngebeza-re5yv
@khuzechristopherngebeza-re5yv 2 ай бұрын
​@@randomlyfactual1943spot on, Nienabers contract ends end of 2026,so we all know what's going to happen after
@nicodavids4604
@nicodavids4604 2 ай бұрын
Great show guys Absolute English Legends
@SeanLarkan
@SeanLarkan 2 ай бұрын
As others have said, soccer is by far RSAs biggest sport & other teams are just as physically big, if not ‘bigger’ than the Boks, but its head, heart & soul where they are probably stronger; and they’ve now become more innovative & creative. Interesting times ahead.
@Ravens1300
@Ravens1300 2 ай бұрын
I can't wait.
@seanbowman5614
@seanbowman5614 2 ай бұрын
Great episode
@sibusisonogabe2220
@sibusisonogabe2220 2 ай бұрын
Good timing, lads. Good timing 😂😂. Just BTW, Football is bigger than rugby in SA. Biggest participation sport.
@colinwhite6904
@colinwhite6904 2 ай бұрын
Agreed... Way, way bigger in terms of participation!
@christoduplessis8177
@christoduplessis8177 2 ай бұрын
At some point about 10 years ago cricket was also bigger but think those have swapped now, two RWCs on the bounce has exploded rugby in SA.
@RicardoPaulsen-pq9rb
@RicardoPaulsen-pq9rb 2 ай бұрын
I'm not a fan of Willie Leroux, but Rassie has so much faith in him, and with Rassie being the GOAT I need to trust that Rassie sees what our mere mortals are not seeing 😊
@karlernstbuddenbrock371
@karlernstbuddenbrock371 2 ай бұрын
For now. It would have been far more dominant if the PSL weren’t as corrupt.
@beejallison8283
@beejallison8283 2 ай бұрын
Same in NZ followed by for boys basketball but our high school rugby is very strong but amongst poly boys rugby league is huge too so many of NRL players are from kiwi school rugby
@izakcelliers7307
@izakcelliers7307 2 ай бұрын
Bom squad is huge..
@MrCravendish
@MrCravendish 2 ай бұрын
Loving this collaboration with squidge rugby! I will never tire of Robbie's analysis and jokes, glad he's doing so well! I think it's unlikely that South Africa won't dip given how Rassie likes to rotate his squads and experiment (Argentina loss a potential example of that). About predicting a South Africa world cup threepeat do you not think think just age profile wise and U20 form might put a dent in them reaching peak in 2027?
@mackyj7801
@mackyj7801 2 ай бұрын
I would say soccer is just as big a sport in SA, Bafana is only starting to get its groove back ……but SA rugby is yet to fully tap into that market which is scary …..Rugby outside Boland or PE is still mainly for the rich and middle class
@drikuslourens1854
@drikuslourens1854 2 ай бұрын
just a correction it's not a 1000 people who come to watch a school derby , the Paul derby every year has an attendance of 20 000 people, craven week attracts over 2 million people a year
@svent7511
@svent7511 7 күн бұрын
Think the comment was general. I was fortunate to be schooled in Cape Town at a school with great tradition. Weekends was all about sport and supporting 1st teams. Was nothing to have 2000 ppl surrounding the field on a Sat morning. We not talking about Paarl… Every school kid was expected to participate in sport. In the UK mostly private schools have rugby teams, most youth rugby happens at clubs. So many young kids don’t participate in sport. When games happen you lucky to have 50 -100 ppl supporting. South africans are fortunate to have development at grass roots starting at schools from the age of 6. It’s not unique, but it’s special. I have driven past schools in the UK and there is no spirit or “gees”. At primary school there is little competition as everyone needs to feel like a winner. I have to say it makes me sad that my kids won’t experience that sense of spirit that I grew up with😢
@RoryDowd-o2q
@RoryDowd-o2q 2 ай бұрын
I live in South Africa. Football is bigger than Rugby. At my gym it's about 8-1 in favour of football shirts over rugby shirts. Maybe 6 out of those 8 are premier league shirts. That's in a middle class suburb of Cape Town, which is rugby central. At my uni it's about the same.
@timgregory82
@timgregory82 2 ай бұрын
Why is SA not good at football?
@Arti-iChi
@Arti-iChi 2 ай бұрын
​@@timgregory82 South Africa’s soccer scene is complex-while it’s the number one participation sport, factors like infrastructure, resources, and development programs also play a huge role in the national team’s performance.. uou have to remember that rugby was played by white people during apartheid and therefore the infrastructure and development programs stem from that time already...schools in rural areas or public schools still don't have that infrastructure for rugby or soccer just yet and it has a lot to do with the political structure.....hard to explain to anyone who isn't from SA when we say that soccer (football) is much larger than rugby and yet that team isn't as dominant as Springboks
@rodwellchigome7567
@rodwellchigome7567 2 ай бұрын
​@@timgregory82don't develop them properly at grassroots. Most of our top players can't use both feet. Things are changing slowly, but changing nonetheless.
@oldman774
@oldman774 2 ай бұрын
@@timgregory82If they had a person like Rassie in charge our soccer will improve dramatically. The club owners aren't interested in developing players because for every player they have there are 1000 others waiting in line. Also the attitude and collective desire to achieve greatness as Bafanabafana is severely lacking
@RoryDowd-o2q
@RoryDowd-o2q 2 ай бұрын
@@timgregory82 SA are okay at football, got to the semi finals of the AFCON this year. Reality is there are 150+ countries that play football, maybe 40 - 50 of them have more resources than SA do. There are far fewer countries that play rugby, and in the majority of those football would still be the number one sport as it is in SA (England, France, Ireland - which also has GAA). Main reason NZ and SA have been the most successful rugby nations is they are the two countries which value rugby the most relative to other nations. That doesn't mean that they value rugby more than other sports. However, it does seem to be the case that NZ values rugby more than it values other sports, that's not the case in SA.
@designmanagementconsultanc4143
@designmanagementconsultanc4143 2 ай бұрын
Would love your opionion on how much Nienaber has impacted Leinster
@MeiA-h9r
@MeiA-h9r 2 ай бұрын
Damn the comments down here are so aggressive and I say that as a Saffa 🇿🇦 Great discussion gents - keep it up and love the podcast
@vahorgan
@vahorgan 2 ай бұрын
As a SA fan, I am not so sure we are as dominant as you guys made us out to be. This year I think England is going to be scary. Ireland is going to be Ireland, and France, well, they are a scary power house. Any of these teams I would like to beat and can beat, but don't expect it. The top 6 teams in the world or a balls hair from each other.
@soidog659
@soidog659 2 ай бұрын
Some SA school rugby games between the top schools attract 10k plus spectators
@alexanderjermaineabrahams1615
@alexanderjermaineabrahams1615 2 ай бұрын
Tata Madiba wanted transformation in the Springboks. Dr Rassie moved beyond transformation the South Africa we want the vision for our Country is this version of the Springboks.
@Mikeup104
@Mikeup104 2 ай бұрын
It would break my heart as a South African but i wonder if Rassie would ever see success coaching a different country.
@mtabrahams
@mtabrahams 2 ай бұрын
Based on his success at Munster I would probably say yes. But the thought of seeing Rassie with anything other than emerald green would be gut wrenching 😢
@thembamadi
@thembamadi 2 ай бұрын
Great to have acknowledgement from BRITS that SA rugby albeit has been at the very top... is still rising. RWC 2027 is likely gonna be nos 5 world cup win for the Boks and a triple win for the Rassie and Siya period. Clinching and sealing the debate on THE BEST TEAM OF ALL TIME once and for all.
@adrianincapetown7043
@adrianincapetown7043 2 ай бұрын
Rassie often refers to the loss of two years after 2019, due to Covid, where he never had the opportunity to build the depth and develop the playing style. Following 2023, Rassie now has a full 4 year cycle to develop and grow the Boks.
@petes9524
@petes9524 2 ай бұрын
The Springboks beat the team that beat the Irish in the RWC. Their SA tour ended in a one all draw. The Boks have four world cups, two back to back, the Irish have never got past the quarter finals. To claim they have the Boks' number may be a little one eye biased wishful thinking if you're Irish, and weirdly warped if you're a South African.
@mallencolly
@mallencolly 2 ай бұрын
The Irish have consistently beaten South Africa for a while now. Without question they are the most difficult team for the current Springboks to face. There is no wishful thinking or weird warping in that. In a head to head between SA and Ireland, Ireland is winning
@mtabrahams
@mtabrahams 2 ай бұрын
@@mallencollyoverall head to head SA leads, with the exception of the 38 - 3 smashing. The matches we were extremely tight in the last 5 or so matches. But you right, the Irish is the toughest to breakdown and to beat. More questions should be asked about the Irish though, as in, with all the “dominance” why couldn’t it be translated into any WCs?
@mallencolly
@mallencolly 2 ай бұрын
@@mtabrahams I'm talking about the current Springboks, not the entire history. Their lack of world cup wins is irrelevant. Just SA vs Ireland.
@mtabrahams
@mtabrahams 2 ай бұрын
@@mallencolly okay the last 4 matches then from 2018 to date as Rassie took over then. Played 4, won 1, lost 3. Those 3 losses could’ve gone either way and not straight out dominance by the Irish. But I say again, you are correct the Irish has our number for now
@mallencolly
@mallencolly 2 ай бұрын
@@mtabrahams that's all I'm arguing. I haven't said anything about dominance. Only winning against South Africa.
@frikkiekotze3650
@frikkiekotze3650 Ай бұрын
Tony Brown can thank his stars for Rassie letting him learn how to play rugby with the boks
@superbowljoel01
@superbowljoel01 2 ай бұрын
I don't think there's much of a size difference between the tier 1 teams anymore. In the amateur era, the boks would've been naturally larger but with modern strength and conditioning programs, everyone's big nowadays.
@africanmamba1021
@africanmamba1021 2 ай бұрын
There’s a difference between “ gym big “ and naturally thick and big with gym added to that . Huge difference … the boks especially the forward pack and even seen a lot in the backs are naturally big and thick … when you play the game … you will immediately see the guys that are truely built for this game and the guys who got their size from gym . Naturally big trumps gym big all day .
@peterjaffe8152
@peterjaffe8152 2 ай бұрын
Rassie has ensured that the players have bought into the fact that nobody is bigger than the game. The concept of “no d..heads” would never become an issue in SA rugby as Rassie would never allow a player to think he is bigger than the team. I agree there will be a dip at some point in this 4 year cycle and the other teams will strive to get better: Rassie’s ability to navigate this dip will be an interesting test of his ability. So far he has been able to stay one step ahead….the other key ingredient to the Teams success is absolute transparency with the players.
@CptRumcan
@CptRumcan 2 ай бұрын
They know how to get views 😅
@gavinross3743
@gavinross3743 2 ай бұрын
Rassie has done almost as much for SA as Mandela did for SA in general. The bokke have made us proud to be SAFRICAN, up until this time national pride in SA never existed. Dricus du Plessis has also made it cool to be proud of our imperfect country. It is much more than a game to us. Bokke❤
@KiloPage777
@KiloPage777 2 ай бұрын
Let's not be dramatic
@SA_PASF
@SA_PASF 2 ай бұрын
Mandela made sure that you kept your wealth, I don't know about Rassie
@mthonyamampetsheni3420
@mthonyamampetsheni3420 2 ай бұрын
Slow down there, Gavin.. you got too dip on your chip my boy..🥴👀
@LuyandaPeters-f9i
@LuyandaPeters-f9i 2 ай бұрын
Hi from South Africa well soccer in south africa is huge rather is up.there but soccer is still No1 sport in SA
@Ntsiki_04
@Ntsiki_04 2 ай бұрын
I think the fact that the Springboks are not "blowing teams out of the water" is keeping them on their toes. Unlike when NZ was on their dominant run. They were beating teams by 20+ points consistently, which made them a bit arrogant (overconfident) or whatever you would like to call it. Thus, they lost important games like 2019 semi or 2007 quaters
@Stain-u9t
@Stain-u9t 2 ай бұрын
Sounth Africa is still a soccer country btw
@ukuthulakhumalo6288
@ukuthulakhumalo6288 2 ай бұрын
Now imagine Safa was as serious as Saru
@Hiltok
@Hiltok 2 ай бұрын
Hilariously, latest FIFA rankings has Australia at 25 and South Africa at 59. Meanwhile, WR has Australia at 11 after the wooden spoon in TRC with SA just 0.35 points behind Ireland. Looking forward to SA/NZ/Aus northern tours against NH teams. Maybe Australia and SA can move up a little.
@ukuthulakhumalo6288
@ukuthulakhumalo6288 2 ай бұрын
@@Hiltok Sa needs a good win vs England and Scotland to be able to get a good points exchange for a decent gap ahead of Ireland. Wales are so far behind that there isn’t going to be a points exchange even with the +3 points home advantage
@adrianpheiffer9960
@adrianpheiffer9960 2 ай бұрын
@@Hiltok The Fifa rankings make no sense to me. Don't pay it much attention. Australia probably benefits a bit by playing in the weakest football federation in the world.
@RichardDeane-m8h
@RichardDeane-m8h 2 ай бұрын
How's the soccer team doing ?
@SHUTUPNOWW9360
@SHUTUPNOWW9360 2 ай бұрын
BACK2BACK WC, AND 2021 BRITISH AND IRISH LIONS SERIES WIN, X2 RUGBY CHAMPIONSHIP WINS...STILL MORE TO COME
@kihara4244
@kihara4244 2 ай бұрын
Craven week is the BEST youth tournament in the world.....Followed by the Varsity cup....and both these tournaments are in South Africa - hence the wealth of talent....some amazing players don't even make it. Add to that the inter school games where some matches have 10 000-15 000 spectators
@NicoDuplessis-cn1tv
@NicoDuplessis-cn1tv 2 ай бұрын
Guys, please sort the sound out. It’s so quiet when you guys speak.
@shaunbarnard6904
@shaunbarnard6904 2 ай бұрын
Glad you said it thought I was going deaf trying to listen
@khayelihlemngoma2393
@khayelihlemngoma2393 2 ай бұрын
Rugby is the sport with the most structure in SA. School boy rugby > Craven Week > Varsity Shield > League > National
@sikhothomas4746
@sikhothomas4746 2 ай бұрын
The Boks played the way they played, forwards based rugby and tactical kicking, because they knew with limited time, going back to basics was their best bet at being at least competitive. They won the 2019 final playing some good attacking rugby, even though it was individuals and not the entire team... COVID hit, so they still didn't have enough time to expand their game plan between 2019 and 2023... Now there are no more excuses... What I'm trying to say is, even without Tony Brown the Boks were going to play similar to how they are playing now. But yes I can see his effect on the team.
@tymoses6043
@tymoses6043 2 ай бұрын
Soccer is huge in 🇿🇦 But.. the Springboks are the 2nd biggest thing in South Africa❤
@marelizemeier
@marelizemeier 2 ай бұрын
What I would say. Is that my boks are experimenting. Because the literally can. Most folks have a 23 and can’t deviate or try things much. We have 40 plus top players to rotate.
@Wolfie880
@Wolfie880 2 ай бұрын
Hey guys great show .But to talk about the springboks is about talking about the fans .Just watch the fans they are the driving forces. We don't want our team to lose any games because we believe they can beat any team any where any day .Because we believe .
@designmanagementconsultanc4143
@designmanagementconsultanc4143 2 ай бұрын
Fair play to you squidge for remaining impartial
@nox6885
@nox6885 2 ай бұрын
There are still more to come. There are many more guys to unearth in SA.
@petrusvanderMerwe-o9k
@petrusvanderMerwe-o9k 2 ай бұрын
a healy take note forwards has brains cole and others
@Badgah619
@Badgah619 2 ай бұрын
Big up Squidge
@jacquie212
@jacquie212 2 ай бұрын
If you went to a traditional rugby powerhouse school in SA, you, and all your friends, will know how your season is going wherever you are in the world. If your school loses to a rival, it will be brought up by guys from the other school. Watch boks office episodes from about 1-2 months ago, and a good chunk of every show is spent slagging off the the other hosts schools, or that of their guests. It is like that IRL
@Jean-PierreBotha-qf9gu
@Jean-PierreBotha-qf9gu 2 ай бұрын
Squide saying he is not qualified is like Einstein saying he cant do math 😮
@jacquesvanzyl5299
@jacquesvanzyl5299 2 ай бұрын
I am so glad the Boks are such a force now but why does it feel like everyone forgets that Ireland just keep humbling us, they are the no:1 team in the world... yes SA keep rotating squads but in the end results are what determine success, indeed SA have the most potential and being either 1 or 2 in the world makes that scary (good scary because I am a Saffa), but Ireland are never mentioned any more, or is it just me?
@jayduplessis7698
@jayduplessis7698 2 ай бұрын
But if New Zealand can learn from SA and start selecting foreign-based players, they will become the best team in the world again. For the same reasons that the Springboks did, mentioned below.
@christoduplessis8177
@christoduplessis8177 2 ай бұрын
Not so sure about that, the only shoe in from the foreign players in NZ is Muanga, no one else playing overseas will get into the NZ team.
@jayduplessis7698
@jayduplessis7698 2 ай бұрын
@@christoduplessis8177 1) Are you sure? and 2) It's not about how many players are currently playing overseas, it's about having more of your players go play overseas while you develop more players in your own country, which enlarges the player pool that you can select from (e.g. instead of only having the 5 Super Rugby teams to select from, they can now select from the NZ players in the best Top 14 / English P / URC sides). This is why SA has the depth that it has - and NZ can have the same depth if they do the same thing.
@pixelpotato4874
@pixelpotato4874 2 ай бұрын
​@@jayduplessis7698The NZRFU should change the rules,bad enough we have only Australia as sparring partners in Super Rugby....not exactly sharpening our skills in comparison to playing South African provinces 😩
@christoduplessis8177
@christoduplessis8177 2 ай бұрын
@@jayduplessis7698 you are welcome to say who other than Richie they would pick today, I can't think of anyone. Maybe Aaron Smith, but he is old. Also on your second point, South Africa has by a factor more players playing overseas than any other country, so if our best stayed back in SA wouldn't that make a massive difference too?
@JPF468
@JPF468 2 ай бұрын
English packs often outweigh the boks so it’s not a size thing. The bok forwards are just technically better
@Wolf-hh4rv
@Wolf-hh4rv 2 ай бұрын
After National team the the most passionately followed rugby is high school rugby. Willie le Roux is not the future 15, unless Willemse and Fassi injured. But he stay as advisor.
@mackyj7801
@mackyj7801 2 ай бұрын
Agreeed Willie is already mentoring Fassi in bok squad would love to see Willemse at 12 he had cracker at 10 for stormers
@JanGreyAndSoOn
@JanGreyAndSoOn 2 ай бұрын
Got to mention this: Soccer is bigger than rugby in South Africa. Not as well organised though. And not a school sport. South Africa has a well established school rugby structure.
@Nkanyiso131
@Nkanyiso131 2 ай бұрын
Only way Springboks don’t win the three peat will be through injuries. Since we have an old squad, injuries are our biggest concern. If we can take a healthy fit group to Australia we will be very difficult to stop.
@pierre2898
@pierre2898 2 ай бұрын
Can anybody outside of SA please learn to pronounce Mngomezulu
@Jesus_is_Lord_316
@Jesus_is_Lord_316 2 ай бұрын
Tim Coetzee does a good job!!
@danielcillie1856
@danielcillie1856 2 ай бұрын
​@@Jesus_is_Lord_316Ahh the Eggchaser himself
@quikgrow4095
@quikgrow4095 2 ай бұрын
Hulle weet nie wat ons weet nie. Daar is net een plek vir ons en dit is bo die berg. Ons in daar en ons gaan bly. 5000 spectators or more at 30 school derby's a year. Televised schoolboy rugby where professional scouts from around the world look. 500 ranked schools where rugby positions updated after every week.Varsity cup Televised. The Currie cup is the oldest provincial rugby tournament in the world. URC/ Challenge Investec Cups. Participants in best franchise rugby comp in the world. Different conditions/ref styles/ travel/ great competition the norm. Leinster being built at the Sharks where your 20 of your squad of 50 are Springboks first choice players playing week in and week out together. All 4 South African franchises building towards Leinster size squads to be competitive in all club competitions. Best national coaches and club coaches in the world to replace Russie one day. Rugby is the DNA of the new South Africa. The Springboks are the ideal and true North of what we all want to strive for as a country. Rugby is the national identity of 60 000 people. To complete, you have to build the structure and depth and inculcate your population with the belief that they can. It will be hard to replace.
@coatknight
@coatknight 2 ай бұрын
Soccer is the #1 sport. In terms of people following it. Rugby is the most successful and has a good support following and foundation. However, there are a lot of schoolboys that fall through the cracks due to lack of opportunities or poor coaching.
@Pack-ManT-B-Told
@Pack-ManT-B-Told 2 ай бұрын
I think the URC has lifted RSA and UK/Ireland rugby. NZ and AUS kind off stayed behind.
@coutsoulis
@coutsoulis 2 ай бұрын
Football is the national sport
@strikeforceham
@strikeforceham 2 ай бұрын
Everytime Squidge is on you hardly give him a moment to speak
@MrWillt100
@MrWillt100 2 ай бұрын
The All Blacks are going to throw a spanner in the Springboks and northern hemisphere rugby and that will stop your thinking in your tracks.
@pietervanderriet9968
@pietervanderriet9968 2 ай бұрын
I think Rassie is trying to get ahead of the law changes that are designed to encourage this kind of running rugby
@philbotherobot
@philbotherobot 2 ай бұрын
Dr Rassie is the reason
@truthandjustice6838
@truthandjustice6838 2 ай бұрын
I disagree that SA has size advantage. England almost always heavier than the Springboks upfront. And so are many other teams. If anything it is possibly just the joy South Africans get from being physical.
@thenomad47
@thenomad47 2 ай бұрын
Ah, ngl, there's nothing quite as fun as just getting in a scrum, or just quite frankly tackling the hell out of someone (or getting the hell tackled out of you), it's just the best feeling ever
@shaunswart9857
@shaunswart9857 2 ай бұрын
Rugby is the national sport in SA. Year on year Rugby participation has outgrown Soccer for almost the last decade
@lebo5281
@lebo5281 2 ай бұрын
Do not lie Shaun.
@yourmomskitchen3236
@yourmomskitchen3236 2 ай бұрын
​@@lebo5281 its true, lebo
@ezozoconnexion8407
@ezozoconnexion8407 2 ай бұрын
Not so sure about that one
@wernerfolscher6909
@wernerfolscher6909 2 ай бұрын
BS
@mtabrahams
@mtabrahams 2 ай бұрын
While this might not be true, rugby in SA has seen a huge increase in participation. Soccer is still the number one sport in SA though (regardless how k@k we are at it) 😂
@mrm1884
@mrm1884 2 ай бұрын
Keep hearing that SAn players are big and giants, and all that, but that does not match the stats. Because if you're big, your average team weight and/or height needs to be bigger than the opposition. That's not the case with SA, especially if you focus more on the top teams at the moment. I've seen teams where you can't differentiate between prop and winger based on just a look/sight. I think people just look at the likes of Eben, RG Snayman & PSDT and just label the whole team as big, because they are just an illusion to the rest of the team considering that they don't even have height as an intimidation factor. Like (Chelsin kolbe, bongi, kurt lee, ox, faf etc) they are all about the same height. They are literally short athletes. And that might be the reason why they don't usually get cards for head contact in collisions. Because in their nature, they are lower than the opposition.
@mickeymouse-xr9gy
@mickeymouse-xr9gy 2 ай бұрын
Boks are wining but they are not dominant. Rugby has never been as competitive as it is now. Any of the top 6 teams in the world can beat each other on any given day. Coming from a Bok supporter.
@petes9524
@petes9524 2 ай бұрын
Here is some text as quoted by great men surrounding the south African Afrikaners or BOERS "Give me 20 divisions American soldiers and I will breach Europe. Give me 15 consisting of Englishmen, and I will advance to the borders of Berlin. Give me two divisions of those marvellous fighting Boers (Meaning Farmer, originating from the Boer War) and I will remove Germany from the face of the earth." Field Marshal Bernard L. Montgomery, Commander of the Allled forces during WWII. "The Americans fight for a free world, the English mostly for honour and glory and medals, the French and Canadians decide too late that they have to participate. The Italians are too scared to fight; the Russians have no choice. The Germans for the Fatherland. The Boers? Those sons of bitches fight for the hell of it." American General, George "Guts and Glory" Patton "Take a community of Dutchmen of the type of those who defended themselves for fifty years against all the power of Spain at a time when Spain was the greatest power in the world. Intermix with them a strain of those inflexible French Huguenots, who gave up their name and left their country forever at the time of the revocation of the Edict of Nantes. The product must obviously be one of the most rugged, virile, unconquerable races ever seen upon the face of the earth. Take these formidable people and train them for seven generations in constant warfare against savage men and ferocious beasts, in circumstances in which no weakling could survive; place them so that they acquire skill with weapons and in horsemanship, give them a country which is eminently suited to the tactics of the huntsman, the marksman and the rider. Then, finally, put a fine temper upon their military qualities by a dour fatalistic Old Testament religion and an ardent and consuming patriotism. Combine all these qualities and all these impulses in one individual and you have the modern Boer." Sir Arthur Conan Doyle. Add Zulu, Xhosa, Basotho, Venda, fearless warriors, Khoisan, Griqua Malay, Indonesian relentless hunters, thanks to Madiba, and you have the world champion Springboks. My Saffa jingo hubris learnt from my ex colonial masters, before the sun set on their "mighty empire". ;-)
@tobolee6385
@tobolee6385 2 ай бұрын
That's all gone now ..they sold out there own people ...selfish ..pakiboere I call them now . Support cheap foreign buisnesses instead of there own peoples ...thousands of them now in squatter camps .there people do nothing ..that aura is long gone. Become sneaky selfish naaiers . Vir die volk 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@TheMarketSniper1
@TheMarketSniper1 2 ай бұрын
The usual trope, Boks are just Big. Sharks vs EDINBURGH. PACK WEIGHTS 900KGS TO 944 KGS. LIGHTER PACK DESTROYED Edinburgh every scrum.
@ronshsh9781
@ronshsh9781 2 ай бұрын
No doubt they’re amazing and the best team in the world at the moment and have been for a long time but find it so odd all the English commentary (same on BBC and rugbypod) never mention the fact they have lost to Ireland and Argentina in the last 4 months. Like Cole talks about them only having a close games against NZ recently, when they lost to Ireland (with their most experienced side ever caps wise) and Argentina in the tri nations (with a slightly weaker team) by a point! It’s baffling that this isn’t mentioned given the fact it’s a 30 min video.
@timgregory82
@timgregory82 2 ай бұрын
cause SA get up for NZ games. For Argentina not so much. Though probably were for Ireland, although not as much as they could be after 1st game.
@RoryDowd-o2q
@RoryDowd-o2q 2 ай бұрын
I agree with this. I find it really interesting and am wondering if there's an attempt by a lot of media to hype up SA as there's a perception that they only win as underdogs, not as favorites. This SA team has shown a lot of know-how and guts to get over the line. But overall I would say the defining characteristic of the team is winning games even when they're second best. That characteristic doesn't scream 'dominance' to me.
@jacquescoetzee47
@jacquescoetzee47 2 ай бұрын
Three losses in 21 games is pretty comprehensive. Even more comprehensive when you realise the combined points deficit in those three losses was just 7 points. And the team that played Argentina wasn’t just “slightly weaker”, they were playing without 14 of their main players. Look who they were missing: - Cheslin Kolbe - Pieter-Steph du Toit - Siya Kolisi - Faf de Klerk - Bongi Mbonambi - Frans Malherbe - Steven Kisthoff - Trevor Nyakane - RG Snyman - Lood de Jager - Franco Mostert - Willie le Roux - Damian de Allende - Damian Willemse
@RoryDowd-o2q
@RoryDowd-o2q 2 ай бұрын
@@jacquescoetzee47 Ah of course, SA rotated a lot vs Argentina to see their squad, but a lot of those names you have mentioned are quite old aren't they? I think only Willemse is in his 20s. That would mean that the rotation isn't just by choice, it's 100% necessary to rotate most of those names because many of them wont make the next world cup. Of course, they played the most experience bok team of all time vs Ireland and lost, whereas Ireland were missing 5 or 6 players (Sheehan, Gibson-Park, Casey, Aki, Conan, Keenan). But then that was only by 1 point. Of course when SA lose it's only by narrow margins, when SA win the world cup by single point margins to point that out is being a sore loser. It's an interesting doublethink that's quite difficult for outsiders to get their head around.
@michellerobertson3268
@michellerobertson3268 2 ай бұрын
​@RoryDowd-o2q South African rugby is at the moment fascinating, exciting and entertaining, no matter which way you look at it. No getting around it.
@theroogie
@theroogie 2 ай бұрын
It all starts at schoolboy level. That’s for love alone, no professionalism at all. It’s tribal.
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