The Execution Of The Women Of The Battle Of Berlin

[@TheUntoldPast]

PINNED COMMENT: Some people have been complaining about comments disappearing. As you probably would appreciate I use a strict comment filter on videos such as this, due to the shocking stuff you read in the comments section sometimes. If your comment has disappeared it is probably due to the filter. TheUntoldPast has always and will be a non-political channel. The only intention I have is to educate and bring stories of the Second World War and History to light.

[@nataliatv386]

This is not history, this is a story, covenient for you.

[@skunkjobb]

@@nataliatv386 Exactly what was wrong and how was it in reality?

[@ReadTheHoaxof20thCentury]

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[@shaunsandow2073]

@Icantstandelves Ahh well, it’s their channel and one persons non-political is different to another’s…current US politics is a case-in-point - one side are mainly bigoted racist liars. In WWII, all sides committed war crimes, some were worse than others, and only one side won and interprets most of the history. Comparing Soviet to current Russian behaviour is a fair equivalence - seems it’s a cultural issue

[@ScottHendrix-yz3du]

​@nataliatv386 this was all common knowledge.

[@Annie-ex3ge]

My grandma lived through the battle of Berlin as a very young woman with a baby and a toddler. She never talked much about it, only saying the first 3 days of occupation were carnage. She would hoard soap, candles, matches and bottled water for the rest of her life.

[@LindaHyams]

The trauma my mother, as a 17 year old, experienced affected everyone, including her own children.

[@nosac1230]

It can go on for generations.

[@billymadison8574]

​@@nosac1230 Not here in the US. We've discovered generational trauma is officially cured as soon as someone mentions the phrase "reparations for slavery..."

[@Lilyel_dAngeland]

A rape is a crime when the rape is commited against my side. Some of the commentaries here are really ridiculous. DON'T TRY TO JUSTIFY ANY RAPE. Disgusting.

[@AndrewFosterSheff69]

In the British army we were told ANY of that stuff, including looting and torture would be punished on the spot with no trial - pop pop - move along.

[@picticiousd4853]

Germany brought war to every other woman in Europe. It’s only right that Germany got what they dished out to others. Not a shred of sympathy from me and I am a woman. Justice was done.

[@Golo-fv3qe]

Nawet ludobójstwem?

[@juancatfish1]

Unless you been in a war and lost friends & family, no solider knows what is right or wrong.

[@LindaHyams]

@juancatfish1 not sure what you are trying to say. No decent man would harm innocent civilians. Period.

[@catinthehat8412]

the Japanese did this to Dutch women in Indonesia

[@oliviervece6121]

French women in indochina, chinese girls in China.....and so on.

[@ChristianThePagan]

Not just Dutch women, any women.

[@user-tm8jt2py3d]

Virtually every military did this everywhere for all of history. It's only changed very recently, and even then only certain militaries.

[@Frankie2012channel]

So? I noticed some guys with a hard on for constantly repeating the atrocities of the Imperial Japanese Armies whenever ANY other army is mentioned. You must have a special racial hatred for them.

[@jexy_marshall]

ISIS did it

[@kozakibpd5014]

The same thing happened in the areas inhabited by Poles, but with a large German admixture: in Silesia and East Pomerania (Prussia). For Russian soldiers, everyone there was German. Meanwhile, Poles in these areas were first persecuted by Germans, and then oppressed by "liberators" on an equal footing with Germans.

[@kurtcarson8911]

Bullshit. The Poles were persecuting the Germans left in Poland by the goddamn Versailles treaty. Just as the Russians came to defend ethnic Russians in the Donbass, the Germans did the same. The parallel is amazing.

[@mdogg1604]

@@kurtcarson8911 "Russians defending ethnic Russians in Donbass"....wow, how lucky to be defended by Vladolph Putler's land of liberty.

[@kurtcarson8911]

@@mdogg1604 Very lucking indeed. No Lgblt agenda, no low IQ immigrant invasion, no culture/education/media dominated by a tiny minority.....

[@billymadison8574]

​@@kurtcarson8911 Ya bro. Russians are known for being considerate, good guys. I heard, after Donbas, the Russians got lost & accidentally jogged to Mariupol & Kharkiv too. I'm sure it was all just a misunderstanding 🤷‍♂️

[@FRANCISPOLLARD-r3p]

@@mdogg1604 You need to watch Oliver Stone's documentary with the historical content on this matter. It is true and I saw the ethnic Russians being attacked first by the Ukrainians as verified by an American Journalist in 2014. So you get to work and start learning and finding out the truth. Americans were creating the who Ukrainian war on the Ethnic Russian. Oliver Stone an American US Army Veteran war hero and famous film maker and documentary maker. Yes, a real American, not some Washington DC person.

[@eddiecarlton7581]

My dad 8th D.L.I. born in 1922 was in Berlin after the war. He said The Russians were animals..

[@Albon29yd]

And the Germans were angels.

[@TheUntoldPast]

Durham Light Infantry?

[@skunkjobb]

@@Albon29yd Nobody said that, no need for strawman arguments.

[@37BopCity]

Yes, they learned it from the Germans.

[@davidr3857]

@@skunkjobb Its not a strawman. The Nazi's mass murdered millions of soviet civilians including women and children commonly burning them alive inside of town centre buildings. Germany suffered for what they inflicted. Not surprising. There is little doubt US troops did it too though likely not systematically or on the same scale. WAR IS HELL. I have known people who saw this all directly. Not pretty. One I knew well, used to assassinate Nazi's and their companions during the wars years. He never spoke about it but I read a book written decades later about such things and it named him and him team. It marked and haunted him forever. The soviets had seen the same behaviour by the Axis forces in the Concentration camps. We are seeing it again with IDF doing the same enmasse with helpless Gazans. Humanity will never change. They will always justify it with this or that.

[@wubbotimmer552]

My opa survived as a 17jr old dutchman the battle of berlin. He did not like to talk about it, he must have seen real horrors

[@ewaj.6260]

My grandparents survived German invasion and occupation in Poland and they seen lots of horror, my neighbors were concentration camp survivors and that trauma was with them to the rest of their life. They were victims of medical experiments, couldn't have their own children because of that.My city was almost leveled to the ground and my family members was taken as forced labor workers into Germany. To sweeten all of this my country was left out for Soviet abuse for more then half century after the war.This is all done by Germany and their Nazists ideas

[@barbsmart7373]

​@@ewaj.6260 Thankyou for your comment. The women of Berlin, and especially of Germany got off very, very lightly. They were huge supporters of Hitler, who pretended he was single, while learning the malicious things Germans liked to hear. They were bystanders of the highest level. Watched their friends and neighbours being kicked ouf of school and jobs, beaten on the streets, being forced from their homes and rounded up. ready to disappear. I have seen footage of people gathering around and taking the belongings of those Jews. Many took rewards for things including turning in Jews. There were many thousands of informants..in countries occupied by terror as well. While Russian women and their children were being killed, starved to death and their villages burnt to the ground, all the German had to do was stay at home with their children and go to buy food. They lived in absolute luxury until AFTER the World War started by Germany. At the end of the war, Germans had a total victim mentality...moaning about how bad things were for THEMSELVES. Germans are still the SAME. They mostly love moaning, when they live with greater benefits and comfort than the the vast majority of the world. If nearly 2 million women went on to have children after the battle, they are SO, SO, SO lucky. They got off SO lightly. And I am happy for them that they lived...and had relatively good lives. I am glad the suicides were just due to shame....not because they had lost their grandparents parents, siblings, children and would soon die behind the "work makes you free" gates of camps they were in. The Jewish people in one line of my family history were tortured hugely between 1933 and there after. Most were killed, quickly or slowly. The Jews who both survived and returned to their homes, were abused and told to leave by the now German inhabitants receiving stolen goods. What lucky German women!!! Very little suffering compared to thd English with bombings, fire, and food shortages and forced into the labour force. These women look much thinner than the well fed Germans of 1945. All women in ALL the defeated and occupied countries. Women in other parts of the world- not even in Europe suffered from shortages and the loss of their best young men. India, Australia, U.S. Russia, Poland, Romania, Belgium, Norway, France, The Netherlands...entire countries of women suffered for more than 4 years!!! I am a lady not from any of those countries. I still suffer from past trauma of two World Wars and the German cruelty. Everyone around me does.

[@barbsmart7373]

​@@ewaj.6260SO, thankyou for your comment. If can't be put into words, thd suffering of the trillions of people. Billions from '33 to '45, then the trillions of descendants since then. I often think about your people who were smashed over from both sides. And even today, with a weird voice, honing in on the "poor, abused" women of Germany.

[@damonmelendez856]

@@ewaj.6260The Allies did nothing against the Soviets in 1939

[@ewaj.6260]

@@damonmelendez856 yes and they left my country to be abused for over half the century. Our two great enemies Germany and Soviet Union.

[@alanattfield7174]

Rape is rape regardless of who is the victim.

[@Marcifare]

The women of East Prussia had it even worse.

[@BrianWMay]

Worse than the Russian women when the Wehrmacht were heading east?

[@Marcifare]

@@BrianWMay oh, do shvt up.

[@willbass2869]

​@@BrianWMayyes....despite the propaganda the Wermacht weren't the animals often portrayed......that was the SS and their LOCAL collaborators (Ukrainians).

[@motorinstructeur]

​@@BrianWMayactually..yes

[@tylerhiggins3522]

@@BrianWMay sure, the ones "liberated" by Red Army counterattacks. An account by Nina Markovna recalls mass rapes along with other war crimes when the Red Army recaptured Feodosia Ukraine in December 1941. She describes the German conduct months earlier more befitting of liberators than conquerors, and describes the horror and disgust of the German units that recaptured the town at witnessing the aftermath of the soviet atrocities. Also the only accounts of mass rapes on a similar scale in the West are of various Allied units, most infamously North Africans of French colonial units in Italy in 1944. Research into rape in Occupied France by German units indicates that was not common and was dealt with harshly as a breach of military discipline. Rape cases in France oddly enough skyrocketed as they were liberated in the latter half of 1944. A person in any case has to have a really sick mind to justify such atrocities because they claim the other side did so first.

[@maria-kastana]

Execution is a euphemism for what these women suffered.

[@Quintus_Sertorius]

What kind of women? This whole myth about the rape of millions of German women was invented by the English propagandist Beevor. As he said, someone gave him a diary of a German girl, which no one but him had ever seen.

[@rickgrimeswife6638]

Ja...denke an polnische Frauen im ll Weltkrieg...Deutschland möchte sich beschweren...????.. und wer hat ES angefangen....??????

[@vmhutch]

I had a professor in college who was one of the first American officers, he was in intelligence, stationed in Berlin after the war. He was still haunted, even 35 years later, by the screams of the women that he heard every night suffering the abuse of the Russian occupation forces.

[@davidr3857]

Mmmm lucky this poor little flower doesn't live in Israel next door to Gaza where he can hear the results of long term US foreign policy. Now, today and not three generations ago. Perhaps he got his kicks reading about My Lai.

[@StigFerrari]

@@davidr3857 what the public didn’t realise was that MaiLai was not an exceptional event, but rather just one of hundreds, if not thousands, of complete exterminations of villages, in Southern Vietnam, supposedly who they were ‘protecting’, in order to drastically ‘depopulate’ the rural areas ‘to make them easier to control’. I read that CIA’s Operation Phoenix was later used as a template to ‘pacify’ rural areas by taking away all the young males in the middle of the night and exterminating them. ‘Fighting for democracy’ I don’t think the American public realises how much the rest of the world hates them, And hence the big queue to join BRICS+

[@cientifiko]

and you believed that he could listen, man...

[@HeinzGuderian_]

@@davidr3857 don't start a war if you don't like the outcome.

[@WeoXCY]

Tell us about brutality in Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia. How Americans treated these people

[@gold3084]

War brings out the worst in people !

[@SayingNigroMakesYoutubeCry22]

Islam is founded on war because Muhammad was a evil warlord

[@DanealLamb]

How true

[@Skibidi_balls69]

Lol that’s just pure stupid and selfish justification it only gives power( if u live trough it) to do whatever you want in enemy conquered territory don’t try to justify evil and selfishness

[@sahanest]

It is interesting that Russian soldiers who at this point had family, friends and neighbors being tortured and killed by Stalin, felt the need to avenge their losses by going after German women and not Stalin. Stalin who exterminated millions of his own people was allowed to peacefully die in his own bed and never faced the wrath of the russian people in the way the losing Germans civilians did. . And i have no love for the WWII germans who looked the other way to the nazi's atrocrities. But This was just pure horror inflicted by russian soldiers who had zero moral guidance from their own leadership.

[@dougfitch3649]

War is horrific. We allow ourselves to unleash the savages within.

[@mr.channel6467]

“It allows” not we

[@68secretgarden]

​@@mr.channel6467 The individual decides. No excuses.

[@68secretgarden]

You allow yourself. Don't drag others into it. Others don't.

[@heidirauch2263]

Nazi criminals were judged and executed. No one judged soviets, french or american soldiers who commited crimes against german civil population. WWII was not a war between soldiers prepared to fight. It is horrible to see how WWII was as massacre against civil population of all nations.

[@MichaelMcKenna-q6q]

GETTING RID OF THE WHITE RACE AT THAT TIME 30%OF THE PLANET WAS WHITE NOWITS DOWN TO LESS THAN12% EUROPEAN WARS WHITE KILLING WHITE ITS THE 9.11 GUYS SEE ABOVE

[@mainepants]

There were dozens of US soldiers executed by the Americans for war crimes. U.S. Army Master Sergeant John C. Woods served as the primary executioner in the hangings of 34 U.S. soldiers at various locations in France over 1944-1945.

[@courierdog1941]

I had a friend who was one of the Hitler Youth decorated by Hilter on this last excursion out of the Bunker. He later was captured by the Americans but due to the propaganda he escaped fearing the Blacks (they had ben told they were Cannibals) later captured by the British.

[@gbglobetrotter]

Hitler and the Nazis hated the black soldiers in the French occupying army after World War One who had consensual relationships with German women and then children. The Nazis called these children “Rhein bastards” and sterilised them once in power. Sorry for these women and the rape of Berlin, but Hitler had to be destroyed. As Stalin said “if a Red army solider takes some trifle after fighting through blood and fire”! That was the opinion of the day! War only generates hate.

[@fish3167]

Yeah, my friend was also one of the hitler youth and saw hitler shoot himself . Seriously, all i hear is bull$€[= from you.

[@davidr3857]

Did the British eat him or did they recognise one of their own?

[@sumpplug]

How did he escape from being sent to the Rhine Meadows

[@fish3167]

@@courierdog1941 I see a huge cap in this.

[@bigp3006]

Soviet soldiers were not told to leave the women alone, they were instructed to focus on them.

[@pamtnman1515]

Much as the Germans had done to the Russians

[@esterherschkovich6499]

​@@pamtnman1515agree..

[@pamtnman1515]

@@esterherschkovich6499 שלום

[@ELDTAdventures-tp9jy]

​@@pamtnman1515 "An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind." Gandhi

[@pamtnman1515]

@@ELDTAdventures-tp9jyscrew gandhi

[@gunterstellmaszek2656]

My father was there. He forgave the Russians. He said that every man becomes like that when he sees his comrades dying. He also once said that we would all do much more and fight for peace if we knew what war is.

[@Jay_Hall]

gunter, Tell that to Biden and Blinken and company!!!! Neocons too!

[@romonagauthier2611]

@@Jay_Hall really what about the fact our male military personal ( some ) doing the same to our own female military soldiers in Iraq, Iran Afghanistan along with the females in those countries. That was under Republicans administrations.

[@Jay_Hall]

@@romonagauthier2611 What is your point??

[@ss-ds2dn]

Oh how generous of him to forgive them on behalf of all the traumatized women 🙄 And I thought it wasn't "all men?"

[@Jay_Hall]

@@ss-ds2dn It is a virtue to forgive, U should learn that.

[@royseaman]

So nothing has changed in the Russian army after almost eighty years .

[@timothylyons5686]

But the Germans behaved honorably towards the Russians????

[@jonnyqwst]

If you had the spine to enlist is some army and were placed in the same kind of setting you’d do the same or worse. Your comment proves your ignorance

[@garynew9637]

How ignorant are you?

[@skunkjobb]

@@jonnyqwst No, the Russians behaved and still behave much worse than most countries' soldiers.

[@skunkjobb]

@@garynew9637 He's not ignorant and that question isn't much of an argument.

[@jamescreek1319]

My uncle was a combat engineer who was in the first wave of Omaha beach on June sixth and he survived the war and he didn’t have a very good opinion of the Russians who he had met he didn’t care for them very much and told me stories about the looting of captured German soldiers one Russian soldier had fifty wrists watches on his arms from taking them away from German soldiers alive and dead

[@WeoXCY]

Americans will never in their whole existence understand what Russians have experienced in their history. Do not ever ask American about their opinions of Russian people or soldiers.

[@gezaeckrich6773]

Ja die alliierten waren heilige , und deine Vater war der beste und ehrlichste Soldat..Erzähle lieber von Vietnam..

[@palavpalavets5911]

Americans did the same to the French. Also during the famed D-day they did not care for French civilians and killed as many of them as German defenders. All counted as "collateral damage". Plus they looted French art, banks etc..

[@throbbinwood]

@@gezaeckrich6773 Why don't you tell us about Buchenwald, Dachua, and Bergen-Belsen first?

[@byker8507]

@@throbbinwood Buchenwald, Dachau, Belsen and many other concentration camps were under control of SS, not the Wehrmacht (Army). The theme here are the crimes of Army Soldiers, from EVERY country!

[@martinbramley9453]

The Many MORE Millions of Men - All Sides, who were Tortured, Murdered etc.

[@ronaldwinfield307]

The deeds were terrible & inexcusable. The story must be told. Few {if any} of the offenders were brought to justice. Most of them are now dead. Unresolved injustices of this life will be resolved by God.

[@LeahSchreiber-p4m]

And the horrific crimes committed against Jewish civilians or gypsies were brought to justice?

[@ronaldwinfield307]

This is true. Certainly there was an effort to bring axis offenders to justice. Some did escape to Arabia & Latin America. A significant # of offenders were executed. On the other hand there was no such effort to punish Soviet or Mongol offenders. The same can be said about Japanese & French offenders.

[@nicolarobinson3140]

@@ronaldwinfield307and the West have got away with how many atrocities? An estimated 16-20 million civilians slaughtered in US led wars since WW2 (not to mention the millions maimed)!! What of the Nazis given refuge and asylum in the States and Europe after the war…the Banderite thugs bankrolled by the US in modern Ukraine?!! And you dare speak of accountability?! Such bloody and blatant hypocrisy!! 👎🏻

[@patriciafinn5717]

Why did God allow this??.😢😢😢

[@ronaldwinfield307]

@@patriciafinn5717 That is both a good & a difficult question & I will accept the challenge of answering it.

[@saguarosamsrecordroundup8660]

Everyone tries to justify their brutality while demonizing the other side, the fact is everyone committed atrocities and every side displayed acts of courage and valor.

[@ritchie9872]

That's not true at all. The German soldiers did not attack women to nearly that degree

[@jr.fidelcastro8890]

@@ritchie9872 Yeah, probably true, because germans only reproduced with arians at that time.

[@markpaul-ym5wg]

Hitler grossly underestimated the russian people.Thanks 4 the video

[@Karl-nv5ok]

The Ruzzians underestimated the Finnish people and the Ukrainean people.

[@AngelGonzalez-pd4cn]

@@Karl-nv5ok Really?, go find out what the Finnish had to PAY to the Russians and the amount of land the Finnish had to hand over to the Russians, go find out then come back to me so we can have a real talk!

[@AngelGonzalez-pd4cn]

@@Karl-nv5ok As for Ukraine, well the Russians do not want to turn Ukraine into a waste land, they have the means and the BALLS!

[@sj6404]

More than 99% of westerners don't know the real history ow WWII. The Russians were massing on the German border to invade. Hitler didn't want to invade the Soviet Union but did it to preempt their attack.

[@ProPatria1919]

@@AngelGonzalez-pd4cn takes some balls to attack a childrens hospital. But Russians do what they have always done - commit war crimes.

[@bhbluebird]

The fight between the Soviets and Germans was ruthless and bitter

[@makolaforge5234]

the germans slaughtered more than 10 millions russian civilians between 1941 and 1944 , women childs babies so try to think about your own behavior if your wife child or familly were butchered by the german army...doesnt mean rape is excusable .btw mention one war were soldiers haven't looted or raped there is none including french english Us etc etc ....

[@ReadTheHoaxof20thCentury]

You should read more to learn realhistory.

[@makolaforge5234]

@@ReadTheHoaxof20thCentury what a smart comment based on no historical sources about a so called "real history" probably known by only you and the little voices in your head i suppose.

[@aniinnrchoque1861]

First of, they were various nationalities and not just Russians. Secondly scale matters. Rape will occur as a crime of opportunity and unlike murder is a monstrosity. So considering the Russians were raping like the Japanese and the Germans were raping like the Allies - big difference in numbers and penalty. Thirdly, 39-41 Soviets danced with the devil and thought they could get away with it. Also, the war was dragged on. Many units were ready to surrender but knew they faced certain death if they did. And as the war came closer to Berlin, it became about damage control rather than defense - that's why soldiers from the western front were redeployed to the east to slow the red army and enable quicker gains for the Allies while that was still an option. Imo the most abhorrent atrocities committed by the Germans beside Auschwitz, were the "POW" camps for the Soviets were three million starved to death and had to cannibalise to survive. Also the network of war brothels was a disgusting thing. My wife's family got rather "lucky" if it can be called that. The Germans shipped off a considerable amount of women from the village to work in munitions factories - most came back to the village and unviolated. Out of 3000 pre-war Jews only about 100 returned and most went to Israel after. The Jews really got the worst hit and if you got particularly unlucky they would experiment on you before the gas chamber.

[@12313846]

Russia lost in the war 27 million dead. And yes the Germans did way more bad things to Russians than the other way around. Germany captured in the first 6 months of the war 6 million Russian soldiers...... Most of them died in captivity...... The first trial in auswitch for the gas chambers.... Was on Russian prisoners of war. So yes Russia was very angry..... And these days it looks like history might repeat itself again.

[@falconeaterf15]

@@ReadTheHoaxof20thCentury So if your country was invaded and occupied by a force that intended to exterminate your race, you would bare them no ill will even after they kill over 30 million of your people? And as always, not every soldier is guilty. Read the book “ Roll Me Over” for an autobiographical account from a US soldier in occupied Germany. Young girls trading their bodies for food was routine. The best were put in special tents for officers use only.

[@Chris-vo3qp]

This depravity is unfortunately not specific to one group of people but is in direct reflection to the leadership and sometimes its quite intentional . I had an aunt that lived in Berlin in those chaotic days, the things those people had to endure is indescribable and yep not much has changed since.

[@thegreatdeception2563]

My mother survived Berlin,She would tell us horrible stories at night,she said the Mongols were the first in Berlin,and my whole family escaped execution many times.

[@agnoagno288]

my family in Poland hadn't such luck. Garmans were so much more cruel and methodical. Pay for all this now!

[@franzmann666franz5]

@@agnoagno288 😅🤣

[@santababy1952]

There is a movie about the very subject called "Woman in Berlin" and it shows the dynamics between the women and the Russian soldiers. It is a very good movie if you can find it. I saw it on Netflix but I don't think it is currently available. Do try to find it. One of the impressions from the film is that this same thing was done to the women in the USSR and it was payback. The German soldiers were cruel and inhumane when they were in Russia, and while there is never an excuse for this behavior we know that war brings out the beast in human beings. Just look at what was done to the prisoners of the concentration camps and at Babiyar!

[@Porkypies6m]

go seeTheSavagePeace

[@markjackson2642]

It had happened in Russia the Germans did the same

[@HenryHaven-c3q]

@@markjackson2642 not really . And nowhere near the scale .

[@ReadTheHoaxof20thCentury]

​@@markjackson2642Soviet lies.

[@aniinnrchoque1861]

​@@markjackson2642killing yes, raping nowhere near as much. The Russians were raping like the Japanese.

[@HenryHaven-c3q]

Zhukov and Konev both stated that the Red army lost 500,000 dead in the battle of Berlin !

[@silviaquesada2499]

really? The Germans had almost no troups and weapons left at this time. Soviet communists are not known for their truthfulness.

[@HenryHaven-c3q]

@@silviaquesada2499 when you're trapped with no recouse you take down as many of the enemy possible and sell your life dearly . I have no doubt that Zhukov and Konev spoke the truth , their own men killed one another with no qualms to be the first to take the Reichstag ! Konev to Zhukov, you're dropping a barrage upon my men. Zhukov to Konev what men ? Official Soviet casualties claim was 180 k men kwm , unofficial 1 million + casualties kwm 500 k dead by both Zhukov and Konev respectively ! I doubt they lied . 😪

[@HenryHaven-c3q]

@@silviaquesada2499 Battlefield, Battle of Berlin series 1 episode 6, the total horror of this last battle of WW2 was concealed from both the the allies and the Russian people , AT ALL COSTS ! This was Stalin's order , unfortunately his generals did exactly what he ordered to take the "prize" of Berlin ,before the western allies , they were heedless of the cost in lives , because they knew their own lives were forfeit if they didn't! Stalin wasted lives and blood for nothing more than his own ego and desire to have revenge upon Hitler ! 2 megalomaniacs who sacrificed tens of millions in a passing contest !

[@piercehawke8021]

​@silviaquesada2499 exactly! By 1945; the Soviets admitted that had WW II gone on to 1946, their supply of manpower could've been depleted to continue to fight

[@jimmiller5600]

@@piercehawke8021 And just how would the war have been extended into 1946 ?

[@FriesenPhilippe]

Thank you so much sir for educating me on this extremely difficult but oh-so very important topic.

[@GaryBaldy-o7j]

You're welcome, I think.

[@wewillovercome5168]

31 comments 68,000 views Something ain't right.

[@davidr3857]

Glowboys you think? It wouldn't surprise me. NSA live doing this crap.

[@GaryBaldy-o7j]

Your calculations?

[@johnfisher7143]

I imagine the officers used this tactic to motivate their troops, “come on boys, win this last battle and you can do whatever you like to the women”. Definitely a morale booster.

[@andrearchen5098]

C’est ce que le commandement américain a suggéré aux troupes de débarquement en Normandie : « les femmes françaises remercieront chaudement leur libérateurs ». Résultat, des milliers de viols sur des femmes de tout âge de la part d’un pays soit disant amis venu les libérer du nazisme.

[@agricolaurbanus6209]

"I imagine" right, sure you do! Are you now projecting British Empire mentality on the Russians, or where from the depth of your soul do you pull these fantasies?😂

[@sgrouge]

Right.

[@willbass2869]

Absolutely wrong. The ra/pes and pillage hardened German resolve and also was simply chaotic. The worst offenders were the NKVD controlled "penal brigades". They were so out of control in east Prussia that commander of all Soviet forces, Marshal Zhukhov, had a showdown with Stalin. Zhukhov told Stalin the penal brigades (controlled by the Party, not the Red Army) threatened the army advance and he wanted them withdrawn from the front. Stalin was afraid of Zhukhov's popularity with the Red army and saw him as a threat. Stalin relented. Eventually the NKVD exerted control over the brigades by force. A few brigades were completely exterm-inated by NKVD firing squads. They d!Ed in the thousands

[@ArgoPower]

War crimes

[@ClintWestwood-m1l]

A bit like London, Paris and Stockholm today then

[@smilingdog2219]

War reshapes humanity in ways that are difficult to comprehend.

[@ReadTheHoaxof20thCentury]

According to Elie A Cohen in his book Human Behaviour in the Concentration Camp, there were diverse recreational activities: concerts cabaret performers movies and athletic contests.

[@Porkypies6m]

maybe they fought to the last because they knew IIm of them would be wasted after it ended

[@StigFerrari]

@@ReadTheHoaxof20thCentury even a ballet company at the Spandau labour camp, where the band got its name. We were sold yet another lie

[@jimomaha7809]

Your forgot to mention that these were for the entertainment of the guards.

[@sumpplug]

@@StigFerrari Rubbish, that name (Spandau Ballet) was used to describe Men dying on the wires between trenches whilst being machine gunned by the Spandau Machine Gun. Makes you wonder Why the Group chose that name, closer inspection will give you answers to that AIMHO DYOR

[@jeffbaxter8770]

1​@@Porkypies6m

[@silesian99]

This was told in meticulous detail well before You Tube came into existence.

[@jimmiller5600]

And you are on YT today. Why?

[@heathercontois4501]

They don't teach this anymore. At least not where I live.

[@imsbvs]

I was in Berlin when the wall came down, mostly in the West but did visit the East, a facinating place indeed. I returned in the summer of 2023, a united city, much of the facination having been lost to history. I visited the Parliament building, they have preserved some of the daubings made by the Soviet military, written in different languages and using different scripts ... some (less family friendly comments) were covered up, the guide struggled with discussing this aspect, it must have been very harrowing for her ancestors. But, no more harrowing than the experiences of the people in the countries that had been invaded, especially in the East of Europe, or the victims who were deported to the camps and murderded there.

[@benedettolionetti6904]

La germania aveva avuto la chance di arrendersi mesi prima e molto sarebbe stato evitato

[@sonnyjim5268]

It wasn't just the women of Berlin. All women in areas conquered by the Red Army had this happen to them. Even Soviet areas liberated, Soviet women, were also outraged.

[@donallen8414]

Exactly, russians being russians are like that.

[@juliaforsyth8332]

Soviet women who were in labour camps were subjected to this when liberated by their own side, as a punishment.

[@notyou6950]

This was the beginning of the terror that lasted till 1991. Unless you were exposed to this personally you have no real grasp on the matter.

[@brianpreval5602]

Funny old thing - the 'red army' hasn't changed at all in 80 years!

[@myvictory8294]

You won't believe it but humans haven't changed for centuries 😂

[@brianpreval5602]

@@myvictory8294 Well some haven't!

[@WeoXCY]

Goofy ahh, i watch CNN and BBC and do not read any books comment. Try to navigate yourself through propaganda

[@seekingtruthnotfindingany7301]

@@brianpreval5602 no army has. European. USA and Canadian armies historically and currently rape thier own female members. No female is safe. Soldiers are animals.

[@Jay_Hall]

brian, U are foolish and ignorant. :)

[@armborstexperten6802]

Why is the Einsatzgruppen excuse always applied to justify crimes of the soviet army? The Germans where not excused for shooting hostages after partisan ambushes. Or for not taking prisoners after discovering raped and slaughtered civilians killed by the enemy. Germans where often convicted for just being in the wrong place the wrong time while almost no soviet or allied war criminal was ever brought to justice. Some 15 millions of Germans where expelled from their homes and regions, of which some 2 millions where killed either directly or after rape, torture and starving. And that was only the tale of eastern Europe whereas the western allies did their share too. So why hasn´t the world become a better place after this genocide against the Germans?

[@brettrobinson2901]

The Germans brought one of the most savage wars in history to the peace at that time...and nearly ALL of Germany supported Hitler's bloodletting and crimes against humanity... I've got German blood in me ..ww2 was one the most unnecessary savage racist crimes against peoples ever endured.... And Germany... Reaped the whirlwind...

[@wildmangreen5259]

because they left some germans alive.

[@andyplus1352]

Thanks for sharing World War 2 History News. The german people really suffered from this war. But human hardly learn from history. With what is going on in the Russia vs Ukraine war. It is obvious history is repeating itself but in a different format.

[@klausbohlert6613]

Deshalb ist es Pflicht Deutschlands,sich aus Kriege rauszuhalten.Offenbar wurden aus der Katastrophe keine Lehren gezogen.Pfui an alle kriegsgeilen Wehrdienstverweigerer.

[@Jay_Hall]

andy, The USA and NATO are behind the Russia Ukraine war,,and the Coup that over through the elected Gov. of Ukraine! Biden and Blinken and NeoCons are devils.

[@yolandabrinkman2653]

As my mother used to say, having witnessed the bombing of Guernika "No haber empezado"

[@PeterNebelung]

Go find a book "Promise me you'll shoot yourself" by Florian Huber. Tells all about the behaviour of Soviet troops, and how a lot of people offed themselves rather than face life without Adolf and with the Soviets.

[@Nttmf]

Russians never change.

[@myvictory8294]

And who does? Americans? French? Germans?

[@hurdygurdyman1905]

​@@myvictory8294Everyone has evolved... except Russia, China, Iran...

[@Jay_Hall]

@@hurdygurdyman1905 U really are mistaken, ignorant, and weak if you truly believe that. Go suck up to the Neocons and Biden, Blinken!!

[@lego7817]

@@myvictory8294 off course they have changed, lol.

[@eastbow6053]

@@hurdygurdyman1905 really? Cause the way i see it everybody is evolving backwards and only the Russians have two g..nders or think gr..ping a little baby is wrong

[@technoverse101]

And yet the Soviet govt was bewildered why the germans rejected Soviet rule

[@Tadju50]

Remember the woman of Stalingrad, under siege for 2 years.

[@dorotheapapathanasiouzuhrt4582]

Exactly. And those in Leningrad and elsewhere in Europe under the nazis. These were not “spoils of war”???? Why are western historians so biased in terms of the Red Army and not about Wehrmacht, the SS and their collaborators????

[@LovingLife6717]

You're thinking about Leningrad, Dude.

[@Tadju50]

@@LovingLife6717 Thank you.

[@HenryHaven-c3q]

@Tadju50 because Stalin refused to let civilians leave either city !

[@willbass2869]

​@@HenryHaven-c3q that's just ridiculous....civilians just means more mouths to feed. Bringing supplies over frozen lakes and rivers is no easy thing. If the Soviets could've moved more out they would have. "Useless eaters" serve no function, political or military. True though that lots of civilians still needed in Leningrad to run the armaments factories and various logistics

[@rosesprog1722]

No, it wasn't about revenge, the Red Army soldiers had been properly prepared and the army regularly dropped leaflets on the men with articles from chief Soviet Propagandist Ilya Ehrenberg on them. If you google "Kill, the German by Ilya Ehrenberg" you will get half the explanation for such brutality but by the end of the war, the phenomenon had spread all over the world, that's why more than 10 million Germans, mostly civilians were killed AFTER the end of the war while 5 million had died during the war. What our grandfathers did to the Germans was at least 10 times worse than everything they may have done to others, unfortunately hardly anyone knows about this, forbidden knowledge... I wonder why? One example, by mid 1946 the survival rate for German babies in the big cities was of about 10%, the mothers were so weak and thin, they had nothing for the babies. That was an intentional official allied policy called JCS 1067 that lasted 2 to 4 years after the 1945 surrender. Anyway, the best place to see the propaganda in action is right here, profoundly hating people who never did anything to you or your country 80 years after the end of a war is very likely a first in human history, clearly, someone is still working very hard on this.

[@wildmangreen5259]

you are a filthy nazi apologist and a liar. oh, right, same thing,

[@ives3572]

Well, if you win, you need not have to explain; but if you lose, you should not be there to explain.

[@TheEudaemonicPlague]

I want to thank you for getting this right. Just a few minutes ago, I blocked a channel that has very similar content--but they didn't bother learning to pronounce anything, and their delivery was a bit strange and distracting from the content. You're simply reading the script, the way it's supposed to be done. I haven't caught any mispronunciations, either...not that I'm an expert in anything besides English. Nearing the end, I was amused greatly to learn that they were stealing toilets back then, too. The fact that they're still that short on toilets certainly says something about the Russians. I mean, I don't know how well supplied the Ukrainians were during the Soviet era, but I suspect they had more toilets than the Russians did, even then. Heh.

[@Quintus_Sertorius]

The funny thing is that hundreds of companies produce toilets in Russia, and until recently they were exported to Ukraine, which did not have its own toilet production. A toilet in Russia costs less than lunch at McDonald's. It’s funny to read the nonsense of fools who believed in Ukrainian propaganda.

[@donallen8414]

@@Quintus_Sertorius fairy tales from the land of putler

[@palavpalavets5911]

Not Russian, but Belorussian and Ukrainian as these were really badly abused by the German soldiers at the beginning of the war, and they wanted revenge for their tortured and murdered relatives. Next, 4 years of brutality have not contributed to their sensitivities..

[@nelaVanBrussel]

Don't try to make saints of the Russians. You make yourselves ridiculous. We know what Russian soldiers did in Ukraine in this latest war. Or the mass murder in Kathyn

[@willbass2869]

The Ukrainians VOLUNTEERED for service in German army. Either upon bring captured POW or simply during German occupation of Ukraine. Who do you think the guards were at the exterm/ination camps? Lots and lots of Ukrainians. Many anti Soviet Ukrainian Nazi guards begged the Western allies to accept their surrender at wars end. The Americans usually said NO....but Canada took in tens of thousands of them.

[@apoloniuszy]

Ukrainians cooperated with Germans! It was Ukrainians that the Germans used to murder Jews in today's Ukraine. We also remember the genocide committed by the Ukrainians in Volhynia - the Banderites murdered their Polish neighbors - mainly women, children and the elderly, approximately 50,000. victims.

[@palavpalavets5911]

@@nelaVanBrussel And the French know what you did on D-day - killed more of them than the defending Germans. Then plundered the country.

[@donallen8414]

@@palavpalavets5911 plundering is not just a russian habit, it is now a tradition to steal toilets wherever they go

[@MariaC.-pj4zh]

I have a friend whose grandparents survived the war. I don't know which concentration camp they were in. They didn't talk about it. Her grandpa lost both legs.

[@maximkretsch7134]

I doubt the German losses exceeded the Russian ones. This was almost never the case.

[@andyx2299]

Das war erst NACH der BEDINGUNGSLOSEN KAPITULATION. Über 12.000.000 Deutsche wurden nach dem 8.5.45 abgeschlachtet. Die fast 30 Mio Russen gehen überwiegend auf das Konto der stalinistischen Säuberungen, wird aber den Deutschen angehängt, wie alles.... die Trottel glauben es.

[@SteffiReitsch]

No, it's true. Here, the Soviets had vast superiority of heavy weapons and the Germans mostly small arms with dwindling ammunition.

[@Porkypies6m]

@@SteffiReitsch the movie Enemy at the Gates where they assault the German position and retreated to be fired on by their own explains why

[@SteffiReitsch]

@@Porkypies6m AAAHAHHAHAHA The Wehrmacht was a feeble shadow of its former self with no replenishment, extremely outnumbered while the Soviets were at full strength. They encircled and attacked Berlin with thousands of tanks, heavy artillery, rockets, aircraft with complete control of the sky, et al, and two million well armed savages. Germans had no food, scarce ammunition, only a hand full of tanks and artillery, old men and boy soldiers, untrained civilians...They were doomed. Now go back to sleep, kid

[@dd7694]

Millions died in Soviet concentration camps

[@charlesmair26]

First time I have herd of this.

[@Treasuremonk]

WHY do you dragggg the word of every sentence out so longggggg? It’s so hard the listen

[@BlueSkyCountry]

1945. The year both Germany and Japan realized what 'play stupid games, win stupid prizes' is.

[@readstalinswarofexterminat-r5g]

Why is it that there are thousands of views and hardly any comments???

[@rebbell308]

you tube censoring again

[@MadeYaMad]

all the comments about russians trying to justify themselves are being deleted

[@davidr3857]

NSA glowboys

[@dd7694]

Free thought is forbidden here

[@ivo4ka]

oh poor poor german women, it was not so exciting to pay back for what german sodiers did to russian women and kids.

[@reggierendon2847]

Only Berlin in 1945, and Tenochtitlan in 1519 were taken yard by yard. Except the Mexicas or Mexicatl soldiers never surrender. They stood in defiance to the end.

[@electryc03]

It only fell to the spanish, due to every one of the Aztecs neighbors hated them for raiding and kidnapping neighboring tribes for slaves and most importantly human sacrifice.

[@reggierendon2847]

@electryc03 the Mexicas fought against michihuacan now michoacan, and Tlaxcala which the Mexicas never defeated. Cortezhad more than 150,000 native American allies from different nations. But still like that The Mexicatl soldiers stood in defiance

[@bobfaam5215]

@@reggierendon2847So why they couldn’t defeat AZTECS without Cortez ? 😂 Without Cortez , those Allies did not have a chance .

[@bobfaam5215]

@@electryc03​​⁠So why they couldn’t defeat AZTECS without Cortez ? 😂 Without Cortez , those Allies did not have a chance .

[@FredSmith-yu1qu]

Did you forget Falluja?

[@dflowers1477]

It’s sad that the citizens must suffer the consequences of their governments. The world has little empathy for those who would support such atrocities as were committed against so many innocent men, women and children during the war. War is hell is an understatement.

[@MarleneVisser-w5y]

And who do you think gave Hitler the power to do what he did ...yes ..and now its somebody elses fault ..yes run away and hide 😮❤

[@nuffflavor]

War brings out the worst in humans.

[@sestameri]

This is so well known, so we'll documented , has been recounted so many times, it makes me wonder why the narrator thinks he's telling us something new and why now.

[@heathercontois4501]

Because it's not taught to the younger generations anymore.

[@fionarielly1232]

Im a Australian,55 yr old women.I had never heard this story.These atrocious of war need to be told.Ive educated myself of the horrors of WW2,and Vietnam war on KZbin. Everyday there is a new story to watch.

[@LindaHyams]

It is not well documented. Russia still denies it happened. The gvt shut the women up. Husbands divorced their wives or cast them aside. The children born of rape were forced to hide their identities. I only know this because my mother was there.

[@willbass2869]

Just stirring the zhit pot because of Ukraine conflict....anti Russia this, anti Russia that. Low grade propaganda to get the western warmongers fired up for the BIG WAR coming in a few years when the fake money economies of the West collapse. Just like FDR had to get US into WWII in order to end the Depression.....(which many of his Keynesian policies prolonged)

[@dd7694]

Many have never heard of this, the countless atrocities against Germans are rarely discussed

[@dorothymartin8557]

Women being hurt to get even with what men soldiers did to other women? How fair and decent or manly is that on either side? Done because women cant fight back like men? It is really pretty awful being a woman in many countries, and often even in every country. Doesnt say much for men.

[@caobita]

🎯

[@sanbell6951]

What did they expect. The Russians are a mix of Vikings, mongols, huns etc

[@steinbauge4591]

This has been greatly exaggerated by British historians with their traditional Russophobia. The end of a war tends to be the most brutal and desperate phase, especially when there is no negotiated end. But the Red Army was very disciplined and did not leave cities flattened by air force as the Western Allies didThe most atrocities against the Wehrmacht were done by US forces against german divisions that had surrendered more or less complete and were being held for use in the so called Operation Unthinkable: an immediate assault on the USSR by the Western "Allies". It is described in the book 'Other Losses' how an unknown number of Wehrmacht soldiers perished after being held in outdoor enclosures without shelter, food or even water. Possibly hundreds of thousands. Also it would be well to remember that Russian war losses were around 27 million.

[@roberthorning8768]

Does anyone here have any idea what the Nazis did to the Russians and Ukrainians in Western USSR?

[@davidr3857]

And on a far greater scale, yes.

[@allthingsharbor]

No, they don't teach history anymore. It triggers people.

[@hurdygurdyman1905]

Yes. Sounds like someone is bothered by criticism of Russians.

[@ReadTheHoaxof20thCentury]

Soviet Propaganda

[@jirpy10]

@@ReadTheHoaxof20thCentury Germany got off easy compared to the Soviet Union. I already know your answer: Soviet Propaganda, whatever that means. Is it different from German Propaganda? Hitler did say Russians were an Asiatic sub human race, right?

[@madelinedelisle5314]

UNKNOWN STORIES OF WW2. GOOD FOR PEOPLE TO KNOW THIS!!

[@soniatrapp109]

And they are doing the same in. Ukraine

[@stevelauda5435]

Prove it fart breath

[@tenpercentfordabigguy8550]

And people cant understand why Hitler told his men and young bays to fight to the last one.

[@astonmatthews185]

And no communists were held to be accountable for their terrible actions.

[@soyboymotivation]

You are lied to about AH and WW2 and General Paton knew it.

[@craigdougls2966]

No one wants to watch anything Russian .

[@edsal26]

Turn your head away and don’t watch. The Russians will and always have done what ever they want to. What a stupid comment.

[@peterc4082]

So similar to Nanking. Except everyone knows about the Red Army but few know about Japanese Army.

[@ljubomirculibrk4097]

Bad war crimes, but german Wermaht (not even worse SS) had habit to kill civilans as they wanted, by every sadistic way they coud think of. In my county they shot 100 civilians for every german soldier killed, they fought it whoud scare civilians to stop resisting. In one case they took kids from high schools and shot them by mashineguns. Several hungreds of them. Dont compare germans and russians, most of those that comited rapes where from either penal platoons or from far east provinces of Soviet union. They where wrong.

[@ReadTheHoaxof20thCentury]

Soviet Propaganda

[@Quintus_Sertorius]

It’s funny that some Russian fools have been taught this lie about raped German women.

[@egordolmatov4931]

​@@ReadTheHoaxof20thCenturySoviet truth

[@ThirdDegreeWitchExplores]

Demise AND death ? ..... That's a tough day , Twice over

[@E3kTheCat]

So, civilians were recruited by Nazis to fight, but their deaths were crimes. Citation needed.

[@Friedclient]

Russians never change...

[@donitaforrest9064]

Germans never change either. Better to have the Russians on the right side.

[@tomoplt5437]

​@@donitaforrest9064👍 🎯

[@ca98981]

Hell must be very very crowded

[@dfurey9446]

Not much has changed. They are still monsters….they have no place in this world.

[@Jay_Hall]

dfurey,,who are you talking about, explain your ignorant statement.

[@lastcommodore2071]

That third photo in the thumbnail is of a rescue after bombardment ... not an arrest/execution. Not the first time I've noticed misleading things in these videos.

[@pamtnman1515]

German soldiers committed much worse against the Poles, Russians, Czechs, Hungarians, etc. What exactly did they expect when their victims got the upper hand?

[@dindu551]

I'm not sure I agree with that

[@pamtnman1515]

@@dindu551 German photos, German movie footage, and German records tell the horrible tale. A bloody path cut across Eastern Europe and from there Operation Barbarossa into Russia itself. There is no “I don’t agree with you” on this. It is settled and overwhelmingly documented history. I can’t tell if you are some Chinese or Iranian provocateur, or a genuine Adolf lover seeking to undo the reputational damage done by the Nazis to beautiful Germany. Germany was the pinnacle of European culture and science. Until the Adolf lovers took over. And now Germany will never recover. It is doomed. All thanks to the bizarre Adolf lovers.

[@islesanctum833]

Your claims are exaggerated Your still under post WWII propaganda

[@Porkypies6m]

winnerwrite the historybooks..Churchill

[@pamtnman1515]

@@Porkypies6m losers who start fights they can’t win don’t get to whine. Nazi thugs were robbers, looters, burglars, thieves, murderers etc and no normal human laments their demise

[@alanattfield7174]

What happened in Berlin also happened earlier in Italy by North African soldiers and they were allied troops on both men, women and children

[@frankalexander5401]

Aren’t the Russians still doing this in Ukraine???

[@myvictory8294]

Hm, no

[@SteffiReitsch]

@@myvictory8294 Hmm, YES! Putin's invading savages have not changed their ways.

[@allthingsharbor]

Yes.

[@jprules2578]

The Ukrainian Azov were doing it in the Donbast...hence the invasion.

[@UAuaUAuaUA]

russians only got worse, and now UKRAINIANS visit Kursk.

[@BorsosGabor2023]

I wonder if there is a memorial somewhere in Berlin to the many raped and murdered women?

[@dnally7864]

Everything that happened to the Germans happened to the Soviets in spades. Remembrr that. I can't conjour up sny sympathy for the Germans even though it may make me a better man. I remember reading of a conversation a Soviet had with a German in Prussia. "Why did you come to my country.What did we have that you didn't have. You had paved streets,street lighting running water in your homes,sewage systems comfortable housing, so why did you come. We had none of these things.

[@eastbow6053]

the answer was "you had different opinions that i didnt like"

[@domingonavarro1288]

Very interesting. Women in the time of war. Yes, this seems horrible. But what about the men that were killed? Many were conscripted. How many women fled Ukraine after the start of the war? No men were permitted to leave. There ought to be laws restricting women from leaving a country at war, but there isn’t. National wars are just that; a nation at war. Not just the men suffering it out.

[@mikeh5431]

Peanuts compared what the Nazis did

[@BorsosGabor2023]

According to these data, the Red Army behaved exactly as animalistically as Goebbels had previously predicted. If the Germans did something, it is still referred to as barbarism, but what the Reds did was not a crime. History is always written by the winners, right?

[@jasoncolley4102]

I can't believe that the euro 2024 final was held at the 1936 Olympic stadium 😳, You could see 👀 at the first half of the game behind Jordan pickford those stairs where that kid lit those fire 🔥 things, The Olympics never did that before 1936 with the batton and tourch, Fakin crazy 🤪

[@calanmacleod3948]

Considering what the Nazi’s did in Stalingrad I think they got of very lightly.

[@Jopie496]

Lots of these videos about German women that were mistreated. Women from other countries. Very little information. Its only German women that are important.

[@kimbow1968]

Not lusitania it was the wilhelm gustav lusitania was 1st war

[@tomoplt5437]

👍 He has no clue about history. He is just uninformed 🤡.

[@Туман57]

отличная американская пропаганда. А теперь расскажите как американцы несли демократию в другие страны.

[@LubovLubov-qy9dq]

Я в шоке от комментариев, как только русских не обзывают, что звери, что воевать не умеем, что не меняемся, хотя это не их дело, оправдывая свои злодеяния, Польшу приплели😮 После этого они считают себя цивилизованными. Как же они могут нас судить, когда сами не смогли себя защитить от гитлеровцев, с Наполеоном тоже не справились, зазеркалье какое-то. Не нравилась им царская Россия, потом Российская империя, после СССР, а сейчас и РФ, чего они хотят, чтобы нас не было, не это ли нацизм и шовинизм. Такими темпами скоро у них и Гитлер будет оправдан к тому и идёт, печально, пусть что хотят творят у себя, а нас оставят в покое, упали они в глазах человечества, такие комментаторы.

[@donallen8414]

Stalin told you probably the facts, and in 2024 some village babushkas still believe it.

[@donallen8414]

@@LubovLubov-qy9dq get used to the facts, even if it hurts

[@LubovLubov-qy9dq]

​@@donallen8414мне не больно, это Вам нужно изучить правду, поверьте, будет стыдно, но Вы никогда не признаетесь, потому что считаете себя выше всех, даже в данном комментарии. Не Вам судить, удачи.

[@michaelvanzalingen2683]

Vae Victis

[@bingolio]

And what crimes did the Allied forces commit?

[@eldragon4076]

Still, it doesn't compare to the allied bombing raids - i.e. Dresden. American bombings of Tokyo. Hiroshima and...

[@yosemitesam-ux5ir]

Or Spain, Poland, Stalingrad, Coventry, London, Liverpool, oh sorry Germans don't like to be reminded they started bombing of cities.

[@yolandabrinkman2653]

Guernika, London, Liverpool, Belfast, Newcastle, Coventry, Birmingham, Portsmouth, Plymouth, and that is just Great Britain. Don't start me off on that one!

[@dnally7864]

"Better" should read "Bad"