The Expanse - 2x10 Cascade - Group Reaction

[@gregs4748]

The clip of Prax talking about cascade failure is kind of a key point for the series, imo. He distinguishes between "simple simple" systems, "simple complex" systems, and "complex complex" systems. Simple simple systems are like simple machines, like say a bycicle. There are only a limited number of parts, so if one breaks, the whole system becomes useless, but on the other hand because the failure points are known we can engineer them strong and take safeguards. Complex complex systems are like ecosystems or economies. There are far too many moving parts to know in advance what will fail, but they are (hopefully) deep and adaptive enough that parts overlap functions and so one piece failing doesn't bring the whole system crashing down. What the Belt and really the whole Solar System have done in the Expanse is fall into the trap of a "complex simple" system. The trade routes, water supplies, food supplies, etc they've developed out in space are too complex to predict exactly how a massive problem could start, but because the farming "ecologies" and resource supplies don't have a natural ecosystem behind them they're prone to collapse catastrophically like a simple system does when you remove a piece, like the farms being damaged here. (shipping food out from Earth is unrealistic both because of the gravity well and because Earth is desperate for resources itself.). That in turn causes Belters to starve, suffocate, or die of thirst when shipments even temporarily stop. Can't say exactly how because the networks of who is trading what for what are complex but it will happen because the Belt system is too simple and dependant on just a few sources of resources. (Think of the missed water shipments that started the whole series.) Then Earth and Mars can't get cheap metals and minerals from the Belt, the Martians can never terriform, and Earth's economy grinds to a halt and billions starve. All because farms on Ganymede were damaged. Tbh it's a problem were starting to face irl, as advanced economies have made us far wealthier than our ancestors but many crucial industries depend on just-in-time shipping of crucial goods (including food and water) across huge distances.

[@will2brown50]

3 years late comment but I thought this was very insightful

[@godemperorletoatreidesii6971]

Well said

[@Mayhemm007]

Did you guys notice the gigantic seawall around NYC? This world has already experienced climate change-induced sea level rise. In the opening credits, you can also see that they had to reconfigure Liberty Island to keep it from being underwater. This is such a nice little detail that they don't even need to mention in the show, it's just part of making the world feel like an ACTUAL future that could happen.

[@ShantalhaitianPrincess]

in the books they talk about the climate change in great detail

[@Thenormies]

Dude that is such a good observation. Did not notice this when watching - Nahid

[@kennethpryde966]

Thing is, once you have easy access to space travel and space manufacturing, global temperature is relatively easy to manipulate. You make sheets of molecule thin reflective foil and spread them in a broad pattern facing the sun. While they might be quite large individually, people on the ground wouldn't even be able to see them due to distance. If it gets too cool, you can just turn a few sideways until the weather systems re-balance. In fact, you could make the sheets only reflect the infra-red light, or heat, and let all of the more useful wavelengths through. If you have transparent infra-red photoelectric cells, your solar shield would also be power generators.

[@dapeach06]

Kenneth Pryde this might help with temperatures (assuming it works correctly and doesn't cause unintended side effects), but it won't have any effect on the other changes brought about by the additional CO2 and other greenhouse gases that caused the climate change in the first place, and if CO2 levels continued to rise, reflecting incoming radiation (IR, light or other) would not be able to keep up. It could be one of many solutions that when used together, could work, so long as a method of reducing the CO2 was implemented as well

[@kennethpryde966]

Horse-feathers! Outside of heat, the primary problem with higher CO2 is carbonic acid. That is a problem, but it's got very little to do with climate change. And plants actually wouldn't mind higher levels of CO2, generally. Studies show plants grow faster in higher CO2 environments. As fission and fusion become more available (which they clearly are in the show) we would just need to leave Mother Nature the hell alone and she'll clean up our mess for us just fine. Most people have climate change backwards. It's not about the air getting hotter, it's about the oceans getting hotter. Warmer oceans means more powerful storms, in both winter and summer. Warmer seas means more water vapor in the upper atmosphere. And here's a dirty little secret, water vapor is the single most powerful greenhouse gas there is. Ever notice how in winter it usually warms up on a cloudy day? Cool the oceans back down to where they were at the turn of the century and all of the symptoms people are afraid of go away.

[@ChipMatthews]

When this show was originally airing a lot of people complained that it was hard to follow, but you guys are so on point with your observation. Not necessarily right, but noticing all the right things. It's really fun listening to you piece it all together.

[@HickoryDickory86]

People were really saying thar? It's not hard to follow. I guess they think so because most people are just mentally lazy now. That's the problem. If a show or movie has even a basic plot anymore people think it's deep and complex. Kinda sad. This show has far more than a basic plot, true, but it's not hard to follow. So ridiculous that that was a complaint.

[@KainErrow]

5:42 - And this is one of those parts where I remember reevaluating Errinwright a a character and started to really like him. He's definitely a war hawk with the desire to always keep Earth top dog, but I also feel he definitely loves Earth, cares about it, and will not let someone else throw bullshit in his face. And - no spoilers! - as shown later on, he is absolutely a Player. He'll make moves and get shit done on his own initiative. Note: I am not saying he is a Good Guy, but he has redeeming qualities to him. Mao is the one I personally think of as being a pure villain.

[@lawrencegough]

Gangrel Aussie yes, I was pleased to see him being developed as a character. Chrisjen was kinda left alone as the Earth political player, so it was good to see other politicians becoming important. We need multiple players in this game, and they need to be characters, not just one dimensional. Well done Expanse!

[@allyourmoney]

I don't even think Mao is a pure villain. He's not motivated by pure power like some despot. He truly wants the same thing Dresden wanted----to turn humans into gods. But he does have a monstrous ego, which prevents him from seeing the enormous risks to humanity with his program. He's a True Believer. Extremely dangerous, but probably capable of change if someone could truly enlighten him. Unlike say, Emperor Palpatine who simply doesn't give a shit.

[@KainErrow]

allyourmoney First off, even after the prequels and all the B.S. Lucas and now Disney has done: Palpatine *is* the shit. ;) Secondly, I don't know what to believe with Mao's motivations and actual intent, because when you have the ridiculous amount of wealth both the show and books grant him, you become untrust-worthy by anyone and everyone. The only plan or code he follows is the one that's most beneficial to him and his Legacy: he doesn't care about humanities immortality, he's after his own.

[@allyourmoney]

Lol, I am not an expert on SW whatsoever. I was just desparately grasping for an example. But Mao has chided Sadavir on his lack of "patriotism" & vision a couple time & he sounded pretty sincere about it. There's definitely some fanatical belief there. But there's ALSO plenty of megalomania & maybe he's in denial about his own desire for legacy. I'm sure he'll be better defined next season.

[@KainErrow]

allyourmoney Yeah No, I gotcha, but I just loved Palpatine in all the movies even while I understood a lot of other issues PLUS I disagreed with you on Mao while not having a great argument to back it up ... so I led with Star Wars. ;) xD

[@evanbaxter147]

This video was in recommendations. I don't know you, guys, but "bounce booty" joke and that guy in blue t-shirt with hangover problem just made my day. I guess, i'll stay here for more :D thank you

[@ArcherAC3]

Evan Baxter he is xD. Try watching from the first episode, you'll get to know they more and even have some laughs.

[@AhmedIbrahim-ft1vw]

“She fell on her booty” that’s was so funny 😂

[@dapeach06]

I think the distiller you saw in the Earth Slum was to make clean water out of sewage/river water, but it could also be making alcohol

[@Thenormies]

LMFAO shows where our heads are at. Here we are think its for alcohol and really the most obvious use is Water. Lol thanks for the correction fam.

[@AlbertoMartinez765]

Fun fact people in the middle ages drank beer all the time vs water because the alcohol was safer and killed the germs.

[@Thenormies]

Truth! While filming “The African Queen” everyone fell sick from drinking the water except for Humphrey Bogart and John Huston, who drank whiskey. Yes i stole that from google xD - Nahid

[@KainErrow]

The Normies Well, you know what fish do in water. Nasty stuff, that. :p

[@allyourmoney]

Alberto Martinez Yeah, come to think of it, it's also why pirates drank rum with their water all the time. Grog.

[@andreasfasold9841]

Jesus, how many episodes did you watch in a row? Poor hangover guy! :-D

[@Thenormies]

We watched the whole series in 4 days....It was amazing - Nahid

[@allyourmoney]

It's got plenty of re-watch value. So many little details.

[@thiagooshiro4857]

That scene of the Earther showing Bobbie how to "walk with a horizon" is so beautiful, and the song was so perfect, it was a simple moment yet so much in it. Just love it.

[@chaost4544]

I thought that was a beautifully shot scene with Draper sitting down seeing the beauty of the ocean and in back of her the dirt, grime, and pollution of Earth.

[@KainErrow]

14:12 - All the cuts they did with Alex were purely for the show, and even the pretty plotless part where he's just listening to music and doing his zero g jam was very cool.

[@SETHthegodofchaos]

9 comments... wow :D

[@trolleyfan]

The Expanse's Earth is 40 billion people...with about 5 billion available jobs. Honestly, it's surprising those people on the streets are doing as well as they are - I would have expected the rich to have killed them off decades ago... Season 3 starts April 18th on SyFy!

[@tsogobauggi8721]

14:46 "Project Caliban" The name Caliban comes from William Shakespeare's play The Tempest. In it Caliban is a creature who is half human and half monster.

[@belinda35_77]

The Stunt women for Frankie Adams did that fall 1 take!

[@ChipMatthews]

Amazing stunt. It looked absolutely real, and painful as hell.

[@lawrencegough]

Ouch!

[@belinda35_77]

I believe her name is Zoe, I would have to look up her last name. She was actually reccomended to The Expanse by Cas Anvar. He worked with her on The Strain, she has done alot of work on that show. She did an incredible job on The Expanse :)

[@allyourmoney]

That's good, because multiple takes would've sucked.

[@knowyourhistory]

Also don't feel bad because season 3 starts in April.

[@patlogic9512]

Hype :)

[@KainErrow]

12:05 - Yeah, the meeting between Gunny and the Earther Street Doctor was a nice inclusion by the show. One of those little examples where our expectations of other people get cracked or shattered by the real thing.

[@allyourmoney]

Also not shown here was Bobby seeing the ocean for the first time. The look in her eyes with the music was amazing. That reaction was a thing of beauty.

[@LadyVenomWay]

Rana goes to mad concerts lol Good reaction as always guys!

[@KainErrow]

6:47 - Rana, let's be a little fair. If you were in the midst of a refugee camp that used to be your former home, where food and water had become precious commodities, *and* you had a pre-school age child of your own that had been missing for maybe a month ...If you were able to talk "Rationally" it would be because you were a worse person than Cortazar and his magnetized brain. ;) And you are not.

[@KainErrow]

And here ... we ... go!

[@KainErrow]

I really like the guy they got to play Prax and how he comes across in the show. In the books, there are any number of times where my sympathy wore thin and I just wanted him dead. (He was a good guy still, but my frustration buttons were getting mash-spammed)

[@ChipMatthews]

He was so weak and whiny in the books. It's understandable because of what he's going through, but still grating. Show Prax is way more likeable. Great casting.

[@allyourmoney]

Haven't read the books, but show Prax seems like an audience surrogate. Not particularly badass. Not a mad genius, but reasonably bright & a bit on the nerdy side. He's the kind of person that watches this show.

[@dapeach06]

Yeah, prax in the book was a bit too much of a socially inept nerd stereotype, and while people like that do exist, it's good to see scientists on TV that aren't portrayed that way

[@astroalfrodo]

I liked Prax on the books. Just finished re-reading Caliban's War and I confirmed that he is some kind of space-druid. He really shines on the technical and sciency stuff on the books and being a scientist myself I enjoyed how he was curious about everything new around him... I like how the show fixes him at the start of the story, can't wait for Season 3 and what's coming for him to shine :)

[@zachgaskins3731]

The dude that initially punches Prax in the triage area... ...is that Basia Merton?

[@TheBerkut88]

Yes, Prax calls him Basia and they speak about Katoa

[@astroalfrodo]

I imagined Basia very different on the books. From what the showrunners have done casting-wise I am suspecting Katoa's mother might play a more important role later :P

[@LeeCarlson]

Project Caliban was a "weapons test" to demonstrate what the Protogen weapons tech could do. I think that Strickland released the Caliban on the UN troops and lost control leading to the Martian casualties.

[@yalenayardeen2925]

Its these little things that make the Expanse even more special, even in the brink of war and living under the worst conditions that man helped Bobbie out of the goodness of his heart

[@gregrizal5043]

Poor Bobby. She wants to see the ocean and what she saw was a dump. She should see a real ocean... like a beach with white sands and pristine, clear water.

[@KainErrow]

9:01 - Damn that booty did bounce. lol, you made me smile there, Suraj. xD

[@KainErrow]

8:00. - Right there, I think a lot of people felt this huge burst of emotion and wanted to hug Errinwright. You'd almost immediately after want to punch him 50 times in the gut and face (let's not forget 100,000 Belters on Eros!) but hug him again after. Coming forward here could* have been the most important step towards true redemption for him. * No SPOILERS

[@aldoantunes]

This show is so good... I can't wait for season 3.

[@KlooKloo]

Every time they recast Bobby Draper in Mad Men I never thought it would end up like this

[@russellward4624]

Mao has been double dealing. He's been working with the Mars and Earth the whole time. Kind of like an arms dealer selling to both sides of a war.

[@noratheweeb9387]

Martian’s are trained at 1G. The gravity isn’t a major problem for them, it’s that mixed with the atmosphere of Earth (which will naturally be different than the Mars Cities) that causes an issue for them.

[@LeeCarlson]

Remember that when Eros was headed for Earth the casualty prognosis was for 10billion dying in the infall and then another 10billion in the aftermath, which means that Earth's population is more than 20billion. And we already have problems with unemployment.

[@thubelihlezondi5822]

The worlds longest hangover continues.

[@peadarruane6582]

Cascade... think of knocking dominos over.

[@makara4615]

For your information, your playlist for season 2 is in disorder starting from EP 9

[@ngatiramona]

Loving the reactions and discussion after, as much as the episode itself. Two lads on the left crushing on funny, she's my bae too, is my new esthetic. S/o to Lost shirt. Great writing, seriously beautiful lines. Christjen and Bobbie meeting was amazing. Thanks team

[@GySgt213]

I cannot believe I was putting off watching this great show. Thought it would be crappy. Boy was I wrong.

[@toddjolly8543]

Can't wait for your reaction in next episode...I won't spoil it in case you're all reading...but looking forward to it.

[@SETHthegodofchaos]

I find it weird that the marsian soldiers are walking weird. Afterall, in one of the earlier episodes it was told that the marsian soldiers train under earth level gravity. I guess it is still different to experience it permanently.

[@kamenwaticlients]

Yeah training vs everyday life. I bet that they adjust way faster then the common Martian.

[@SETHthegodofchaos]

yeah, thats probably how it works

[@kennethpryde966]

Marines train in 1G for boarding actions. The officers, crew and diplomats don't.

[@allyourmoney]

They probably just do 1G for a few hrs at a time. They've been there for at least a whole day now.

[@goggler2]

I really liked Gunny. I rushed through season 2 because i was so interested in following her characters story arch. But i know she was disliked by alot of people. However she was my favourate new cast member of season 2.

[@allyourmoney]

I seem to remember she was only disliked by the fanatical book readers that were butthurt that she wasn't played by Dwayne Johnson in lipstick & a bra. I am only exaggerating a TINY bit here. Those redditors were just silly.

[@riculfriculfson7243]

Martian Marines train in 1G so Bobby should feel no problems with the gravity. Blue sky overhead... well that's another thing :)

[@stueymon]

To call Ganymede "some farmland" is a bit reductive, it's where the belt gets it's food

[@chimmychim1013]

Next episode is gonna be dope. Alex my man ❤️

[@harumistborn]

Rick Grimes impression on point.

[@qualopec]

Well, you still have 3 episodes left to find out what's happening in Venus.

[@KingApeiron]

RIP Travis tho

[@allyourmoney]

Ugh....last year I tried some canned chicken in a spam can after seeing this episode. Awful. Roma is off his rocker.

[@tsogobauggi8721]

#JulieAndMillerAreAlive :)

[@allyourmoney]

I think Julie & Miller are "alive" as information stored in the Protomolecule "cloud". So are all those people on Eros that were assimilated. This cloud is maintained across a vast distance through quantum entanglement.

[@cornekeetels5293]

They definitely are starting to crush on gunny just as much as i

[@russellward4624]

Ca$cade from "Animals As Leaders" is the only good cascade.

[@DominickvdHoff]

would be cool to see you guys react to man in the high castle after this series, it's just like this.. unknown but still really good.

[@KainErrow]

12:46 - I'll be honest, I stopped liking Naomi in this season and no comment about the books. Nothing against the actress, but I would have just nodded if she got shoved out an airlock. She is a person that wouldn't fight or kill to defend her family.

[@TealJosh]

They mentioned in this or one episode forward, she has lost a kid. And knowing the books. Her behaviour is beyond understandable.

[@KainErrow]

GTpcGaming Lots of behaviors are understandable. And the kid she "lost," .... that's obviously another story with a whole lot of spoilers. Still dislike her. Airlock.

[@solgnaleb]

spoiler ...

[@freizyfreeze2]

Lmao.... HANHH!!!

[@AlbertoMartinez765]

What? Politicians and govts doing shady shit to their own people? Nooooooooooooo...C'mon man don't be so naive...)

[@thewhitestroke182]

when will you continue with korra? I WANT IT!!!!!!

[@Thenormies]

Check the Schedule in the community tab fam - Nahid

[@Tortuosit]

Bobbie 💟

[@tariithecyborg8604]

I know is wrong video but don"t react to one punch man season 2 please.You skiped too much fight and leave 20 minutes of trash talking in the last episode,so afraid you gonna do it too in season 2.Iwatch you alot but give a break and show us a full staf

[@Nahid82243]

Sorry but we arent gonna listen to your request. We are def gonna watch it. If you dont like it you dont have to watch. Again Ill repeat if you dont like it you dont have to watch it no one is holding a gun to your head. but thatnks for watching i guess.

[@tariithecyborg8604]

Yeaaa since you skip also characters like garou.Okay but i gonna watch your video clips season 2 and see wait you bring