The Expanse 2x12 REACTION!! "The Monster and the Rocket"

Eric Rick Calvin and Aaron react to and discuss season 2 episode 13 of The Expanse - The Monster and the Rocket - #TheExpanse
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[@BlindWave]

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[@Braincleaner]

Champa is the big belter, he's one of many examples of how the show excels at making "one episode" characters be really memorable and shine.

[@kirkdarling4120]

Most series don't give juicy drama to one-off characters. This series does it quite often.

[@quiett6191]

This show has the best side characters I've ever seen.

[@mehdimalek6147]

Dont forget the guy can act for sure

[@theccpisaparasite8813]

👍 well scripted, superbly shot and edited, well acted. That boarding scene just connects on a human level.

[@ezrawyrd9275]

Champa, Diogo's Uncle Mateo, Captain Theresa Yao, Captain Kirino, Niko, the list goes on. The writing is great, but The Expanse's casting director is a goddamn legend.

[@russellmassey9324]

There's nothing more dangerous that James Holden and an open microhpone

[@snarflcat6187]

Today the mic was his only effective weapon.

[@Phynkesia]

I just love how Holden goes all "Navy Seal Copypasta" on the Ganymede fleet while Alex rolls his eyes and it actually works and they stand down.

[@HenryM912]

@@Phynkesia now I want a Holden version of that copypasta

[@spbspb2413]

There is one thing more dangerous, and it's Avasarala with an open mic

[@murciadoxial8056]

@@spbspb2413 Avasarala angry is far more dangerous

[@TomBagwell]

Belters, more than anyone else, understand exactly what "only air for 52 people" means. No more would try to get on.

[@Vaultboy-ke2jj]

Champa, the big guy, and the whole of the scene with the 52 is incredible storytelling. It always makes viewers cry

[@Usernamenottaken2k]

When I was a child a pizza party without at least three deaths was considered a dull affair

[@Psykochic916]

🤣

[@snarflcat6187]

Dothraki Pizza Party? What's on that pizza? Raw horse hearts in a molten gold sauce?

[@AlbanianGamer313]

Only a fool would confront James Holden on an open channel

[@BhlackBishop]

It is known

[@thontor]

Champa is definitely the hero of this episode. I tear up every time i watch it or even a reaction to it. 18:42 Rick... Errinwright just killed the guy that Mao was working with on mars and basically forced Mao to work for him again... Eric and Aaron got it right.

[@Mach1Greeble]

One of the heroes of the entire show.

[@snarflcat6187]

So what I hear you saying is: Aaron Right?

[@AngeloBarovierSD]

@@snarflcat6187 That's a terrible pun! So, it's perfect. Here's my goddamn thumbs up.

[@snarflcat6187]

@@AngeloBarovierSD ...but...but...but...no-one actually thumbed it up! (cries in kitty beer).

[@AngeloBarovierSD]

@@snarflcat6187 I did, I did! I SWEAR I did!

[@Nightley4]

I am glad it got them. This 52 people, self-sacrifice scene always makes me teary-eyed. =)

[@chaost4544]

The cucumber scene is funny but telling. She may have never had fresh vegetables and if she did it probably would have never came from Earth.

[@Terramagu]

I think in specific this one is because cucumbers are such a ridiculous water hog plant, that there's no way Mars would waste their resources on it. It's the equivalent of making a solid gold sandwich. Tastes about the same too.

[@Braincleaner]

and she's a soldier, if there's food you eat, if there's a chance to sleep you sleep cos you have no idea when the next snack or nap is going to be

[@Jantzku]

@@Braincleaner My thoughts exactly!

[@kirkdarling4120]

@@Braincleaner One of my uncles was one of the Chosin Few in the Korean War. He advised me, "Never miss a chance to take a nap or a leak. You never know when the next 12-hour firefight will start."

[@spacewizard69]

@@Terramagu 95 % water , they are basically flavor water (a very good flavor)

[@kirkdarling4120]

This episode stands as one of the best of the series. Errinwright's flip of the script and Scene 52 will stand out for years to come. Scene 52 always makes me cry, and I'm an old man. Belters constantly live on the edge of catastrophe. I would expect every Belter knows someone or of someone who has had to make the cold calculations of who will live and who will die in various situations. They just had to realize that for them, that was this moment. As the Somnambulist was lifting from the the surface and was being challenged by the Martians, Naomi was checking out her hidden Protomolecule torpedo.

[@acereporter73]

I *love* this field trip with Chrisjen, Cotyar, and Bobbie.

[@noelward1367]

These guys should have a Rockford Files type show when The Expanse is done! It would be the best!

[@Yora21]

The ABC Gang.

[@darrenrichardson6146]

The "52" scenes are really heartbreaking to watch, but it really shows of not only the main cast's acting, but the extra's too. As for the "Warship" speech, that scene cements James Holden and the Roci as a major player in system wide events and feeds into the awesomeness that's to come.....

[@streaky81]

Knew this would be the episode to finally break you guys :) When this show wants to make grown-ass men cry, it can and it will, and you will comply.

[@jamesholland5761]

"52" that's what we call this episode. How can one character in one episode and basically one scene leave such major impact on you. Great writing! Die in darkness beratna Champa!!

[@snarflcat6187]

Aright, Aright! Lets all agree to leave off on the Future Episode Sneak Quotes, OK? They are minor spoilers.

[@jamesholland5761]

@@elocbmc7462 I know, everytime....

[@wtimmins]

What's so emotional about the 52 saved is... this isn't fiction. Scene like that have played out throughout history, when people try to have their children and loved ones find freedom and safety while they stay behind to die. Remember your ancestors.

[@ShaunRF]

The "lets be tough" scene gets me every time, no matter how many times I see this episode. Such a great moment!

[@jaives]

37 minutes into the ep, and it got really dusty in the Blind Wave office, I think. everybody got something in their eye. :D

[@marrenby]

Naomi: “52! There’s air for only 52. I came out here to see what you and I can do about that!” 😢 Champa: “We’re tougher than anyone in the system! Where’s your pride, Beltalowdas?!! *If we have to stay back then we have to stay back!* Only 52 of us can go!!” 😭 Naomi to Champa: Go! You’ve earned it. Champa pushes Naomi in: You’re not finished yet! 😫😩😭 Holden: “This is the warship Rocinante! Any ship that opens fire on us will feel the sum total of our state-of-the-art Martian arsenal rammed up its a$$! This is our only and final warning!” I just can’t with this show! I’m crying and cheering through the tears! 🔥🔥🔥

[@ScottRutter]

You're not finished yet... kills me every time...

[@rabid_si]

THIS IS THE WARSHIP ROCINANTE. The iconic moment Holden's massive balls step into the limelight and one little ship bullies two interplanetary armies into submission.

[@sparrowlt]

Holden logic was surprisingly on point.. once the Sonambulist had a frigate for escort anyone trying to shot them down would need a quite large amount of missiles as the Corvette class can handle quite a lot of incoming missiles .. such exchange would be too unwise if you are standing off with another big fleet as it would deplete your ammo or even tell them you are now lower than them... in that case if that ship is fliping you off while getting away from you the best would be let them go and someone else handle them if the MCRN wants..we have bigger problems now and are not gonna launch half our arsenal with the UNN Fleet staring at us right there... Having said that whoever was in command of the Valkyrie was a massive dickhead firing a missile at a ship presumibly filled with refugees surrendering..it was like "hey .. free kill!"

[@martinacosta3821]

A tribute to the unnamed heroes who were brave enough to stay behind ( especially the big dude) that scene always makes me tear up

[@LeeCarlson]

"This is the warship Rocinante".

[@jforden78]

In regard to the 52 ... Belters live a very different existence from the Inners. They believe the more they help, the more they share ... the fuller the bowl is. The whole group strives for the survival of the whole group. In this scenario, it was a matter of calming everyone, and come to their senses.

[@yalenayardeen2925]

The end of this episode made me cry, the fact that even though they went through shit their whole life they can still find it in them to sacrifice themselves for others. That's something I've always loved about the Belters

[@MrTiptopten]

Ok Everyone. Make sure your juice canisters are full and strap in and get ready for a high-G Burn to the end of Season Three.

[@Rune__]

I’m addicted to these reactions and i really need to see the reactions to the finale early. So now I’m a four-sight Rider patreon 🙈

[@harmanpiano]

Cucumbers are a delicacy on Mars because they require so much water. That's why Bobby rushed to them lol.

[@guardian35]

Draper pounced on those Cucumber sandwiches because cucumbers take a lot of water to grow so are very expensive/rare on Mars.

[@TheLadyLuck523]

Always look forward to their reactions to The Expanse. The show is so good and there's always so much to unpack for the crew. This episode is one of the best politcal intrigue wise and emotional wise.

[@coeusdarksoul2855]

That outtro... ROFL

[@sparrowlt]

Naomi doesnt like weapons , she is an engineer so she has plenty knowledge and tools to take anyone out without a gun or a knife.. and this is a small demostration of why.

[@Psykochic916]

YES!!!! It's Expanse day!!!

[@garethneller8239]

Best extra of all time!

[@AngeloBarovierSD]

Point of order: Extras don't have speaking lines. Gugan Deep Singh ("Champa") was a guest star.

[@garethneller8239]

@@AngeloBarovierSD fair point, I did not know that

[@AngeloBarovierSD]

@@garethneller8239 Yar. Extras (or Background Actors) come in, get their looks, and then act silently in the background. On occasion they get to do group yells (like "Beltalowda!") but if they get speaking parts, they are cast members and get a pay upgrade. "Champa" was cast via recommendation and/or audition. Extras generally get a 'cattle call' and the background casting director (at most) just chooses them based on their profiles. They only have to meet a certain visual requirement and, y'know, be able to be normal for the scene. They aren't given lines. There are 3720 union rules distinguishing between background and cast members. (Minor exaggeration.)

[@Chyll07]

One of my favorite episodes of the entire series.

[@HoJSimpson]

This is the Warship Rocinante...

[@ddanielsandberg]

Team ABC is in the house!

[@jamesholland5761]

Team ABC!! WHOOP WHOOP!!

[@natashasullivan4559]

Still after 4 or 5 watch throughs Champa still makes me cry 😭

[@cinedelasestrellas]

I’m late to the party but when you see the very end of this episode, remember the title of the episode: “The monster and the rocket.”

[@billross7245]

Aliens meets Titanic in this epsiode.

[@otakarbeinhauer]

1:30 Life is just one giant pizza party. 😂 I'm crying.

[@Ryuu44]

I've been waiting for this day from the moment you guys started doing this series or even longer but I don't remember when I started lobbying for you to watch this.

[@mbpoblet]

9:41 Provably quite hard to find cucumbers on Mars (they need lots of water to grow), and even harder in the Martian navy...

[@daviddalke926]

This is my favorite episode of the series. So much awesome.

[@nuadarstark]

"Don't talk down to me, plant guy."

[@AngeloBarovierSD]

I know they don't read the comments but, _for the record,_ Your Honour, the show (and especially the SPFX dpt.) go through great effort to simulate turbulence scenes beyond just shakey cam. I won't reveal their secrets but ... yeah. It's a thing they do so the actors don't have to shake/bounce themselves.

[@belinda35_77]

Hi Angelo! Yeah, I forget who, I think Jeremy or Breck, posted some video when they were shooting S2 showing everything that went into the sets to get those shots. All the little "extras" they added to achieve the shakey sets...if I remember right it was really a hands on approach lol Hope you're well and everything is going smoothly on S6 production!

[@AngeloBarovierSD]

@@belinda35_77 What? Well, no one ran that video by me. How dare they?! LOL. And if we're not in Mr. Benning or Mr. Danelon's stratosphere, we're supposed to be hush-hush about, y'know, um, whatever it is may or may not be happening right now. 😜 Hope you're well! Stay safe out there.

[@belinda35_77]

@@AngeloBarovierSD Haha Never want anger the Benning/Danelons god- heads. No worries about the bts set magic video..it was at a time when there were only like 12 fans online paying attention to any of that stuff LOL Your secret is safe!

[@AngeloBarovierSD]

@@belinda35_77 Copy that!

[@mickys333]

25:38 Yes, you and Eric want to get there when there is already a Post Office.

[@snarflcat6187]

Aright, Aright! Lets all agree to leave off on the Future Episode Sneak Quotes, OK? They are minor spoilers. This is an automatic message...

[@alcor7104]

@@snarflcat6187 Sure thing, Myrtle. I-I mean, *Snarfl* .

[@mickys333]

@@snarflcat6187 I have no idea what you're talking about. All I'm saying is that I agree that it's better to get there when everything is finished and there is a way to get mail safely delivered.

[@stephenpodeschi6052]

Season 2 is epic .........actually all seasons to date are excellent .....

[@vicc6790]

No death at a pizza party? A Dothraki pizza party without at least three deaths is considered a dull affair

[@fakecubed]

I've actually been to a pizza party where there was one pizza per person. The pizza was terrible because the hosts were self-described "foodies" who ordered from some bizarre place with the strangest ingredients I have ever seen on a pizza. The pizzas were also poorly cooked. I choked down a slice of one of the pizzas, and then choked down a slice of a different one hoping it would be better but it was even worse. The hosts seemed happy that there was so much leftovers, so I guess it worked out for them that no one really wanted to eat any of it. There was wine that was decent, but the liquor on offer was the kind that a only a high schooler would buy (pay somebody to buy for them) which was kind of amusing since everyone there was in their 30s. I have avoided being their guest again ever since. Still, it was a pizza party, because there was pizza, technically, and a gathering of people. Just not a very good one. I'd rather split a single pizza between 8 people if the pizza is good, than have an overabundance of whatever that shit was.

[@pamelahofman1785]

Yay! Team ABC! (Avasarala, Bobbie and Cotyar. People love this!)

[@vallara1974]

Such a great series, and you guys still haven´t met my fav character, so can´t wait for you to go on! :O

[@zammmerjammer]

This video is really quiet. Am I the only one who thinks so?

[@JoaoPedroDamaso]

it was for me too, even the sound maxed out it still felt low

[@phath0m135]

Yeah I felt that while syncing the full length reaction. Had to really turn down the volume in Amazon to get them to mix properly where I could hear both.

[@mickys333]

Yea, I noticed that too. Worst of all is the moments at which they're loud, they're extremely LOUD. Like when Naomi put Amos down, had to mute it for that one.

[@murielkramer7674]

Now that you say that, I just realized I too had to max out the volume, and then still Calvin f. e. was too quit compared with Eric. What's up with the sound??

[@hebrewhammer9068]

Oh man the rest of this season is so good. I look forward to yall reacting to this show!

[@altaris2000]

Dammit....now I want to go order a pizza.

[@hellfish2309]

9:58 the quality of food on Mars isn’t that great and varied... so hells yea Draper is gonna buffet-plate it 12:43 still makes me cry, the tragedy of the belters

[@Yora21]

It's the adventure of the ABC-Crew.

[@solargeknowles4354]

This is now the second time belters have been massacred due to the inners(earthers and Mars) fighting. The belters have been through so much.

[@xerozeven]

How soon we forget how it was not long ago that belters spaced so many non belter refugees, with Prax having to watch them go. Truth is, no faction in this story is innocent. People will be people.

[@rafaelsantosx]

@@xerozeven "Just because someone is the underdog doesn't mean they are the good guys."

[@sierra1513]

most of the people dying are not part of any faction

[@xerozeven]

@@sierra1513 wrong on so many levels. 1. Every Human born or designed is one of three factions by default. Earther/Belter/Martian. Not going to go any deeper than that as that should be enough.

[@tkinsey3]

Holden is such a stubborn, emotional, idealistic asshole sometimes. But that's why we love him.

[@unbeheld]

The cucumbers are a nod towards the books. Martian society is built on efficiency since they need to import all their material for the terraforming project. Cucumbers notoriously take a disgusting amount of water to cultivate, so it has to be shipped directly from Earth making it an extreme luxury item (kinda like Truffles here). So for a grunt like Gunny, it's something she'd never taste, which is why she was all over that plate. Kind of irrelevant but funny callback.

[@Yesquire0]

Just curious. Why do people simply assume the remnants outside of the 52 died on Ganymede? Whether they, or some of them, managed to find a way to survive doesn't diminish their commitment to sacrifice themselves for the good of the 52, but I don't recall seeing any bodies.

[@darrenrichardson6146]

IIRC in the next episode there's reference to the Roci pulling the last survivors from Ganymede, suggesting those left behind did indeed die.

[@jeffb255]

I always felt like these last two episodes felt like Doom or Metroid

[@lendondain1]

Hard to believe, but season 3 is even better than this season.

[@thomashiggins9320]

Man, I was looking forward to your reaction to that final scene, from the beginning of this reaction. :) And, does this show do awesome things with single-appearance secondary characters, or what? 8| You had the Earther Bobbie met; and Prax's friend, Janice; and then this Belter. Others come and go, as well, and a bunch are equally memorable. While technological advancement does come through military research, it's far from the "best." Most military research goes to produce things that sit in a hole in the ground on some military base somewhere, and never get used. So, the economic boost comes from the initial research, and the materials and jobs from the production run, and *maybe* from some spinoff applications and arms sales when the thing gets declassified in 20 years. However, for the most part, military research gets spent on things that, once produced, disappear from the economy because they sit in a warehouse, somewhere. By comparison, non-military scientific research -- especially targeted toward the achievement of a goal that's possible, but *very* difficult, results in innovations that fuel the entire economy. They're never classified, which means everybody knows how the nifty new widget work, and that causes people to spin off ideas from them without any need for government spending. Of all the funds spent on U.S. government research programs, NASA spending has -- far and away -- the best return on the investment (ROI), dollar for dollar. Nothing else really even comes close. The things that DARPA comes up with that eventually do find civilian applications are pretty cool, or even life-changing (the Internet...), but the delay in the time to market until the widget or system gets declassified dampens the ROI pretty seriously, most of the time. (Of course, none of that even begins to compare to the benefits of the Interstate Highway system -- the gift that keeps on freakin' giving -- but nothing beats long strips of concrete and asphalt, for sheer everyday practicality....) Fun reaction. I look forward to the next one. :)

[@anthonyferguson9282]

Well, they WERE having a pizza party, up until people started dying....

[@TheRaventwilight]

"1 person, 4 dead bodies... PIZZA PARTY!" 🍕🍕🍕🍕💀💀💀💀😋

[@toddjolly8543]

That joke...niiiiiiiice.

[@nickboom123]

Im gonna save this video just to come back and watch Aaron freak out at the drugging Amos scene

[@ichbinmenschlich7936]

PIZZA PARTY what a great meme :D

[@dennistomsen5822]

The Belters are frigging awesome...for better or worse 🙃

[@ichbinmenschlich7936]

Cloud seeding by using silver nitrade is so 19 hundrets. There are quite more effective ways to seed clouds now days. Maybe you should read up on Geoengeneering what's all possible in 2021.

[@billross7245]

the pizza could always use more "tomato sauce".

[@PsychoMuffinSDM]

I had actually heard from somewhere that kids breath MORE. Can anyone confirm this? It makes sense to me. But this is also bearing in mind that economy of oxygen isn't the ONLY consideration, but being women and children too.

[@rambleron5720]

Theres something wrong with the audio Eric and Aaron are good but Calvin and Rick are very low...

[@emmanuelbaj3944]

Remember the cant

[@nnamdi1971]

apologies that should have been splelt Aaron in the last comment.

[@thomasmain5986]

I understand the Sleeping Sonambulist only had air for fifty two, why not take more and transfer them to the Roci, at some point Amos and Naomi transfer to the Roci, the complication to that plan was that the Proto Molecule creature was now on the Roci, but they did not know that at the time.

[@carrela1000]

They didn't know if the roci would come back in time. They would be taking a big risk. You heard them in this episode talk about it

[@thomasmain5986]

@@carrela1000 Well apart from the fact that without the Roci the SS would not have made it off Ganymede, I am just saying that there was a flaw in the logic, and as things turned out rampaging Proto Molecule monsters aside, more people could have been saved, the Roci was never going to be that far away from the SS.

[@snarflcat6187]

@@thomasmain5986 I have similar thoughts ( heres one: "52" was a ROUGH snd very CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE. And since Chompa specified "women and children first" that ESTIMATE could EASILY have then been pushed up to at least 60 (women ans children requiring less air than the average) so there'd have been MORE THAN ENOUGH air for him to have stepped in as well...) BUT I nvr stated that before because its not about numbers and logic, its a story, and stories are about the storytelling.

[@thomasmain5986]

@@snarflcat6187 I am well aware that it is the story that matters, but they said 52 people that turns into mostly children, and we do not seem to have the potential of the Roci factored at all. Its superbly acted and a very emotional scene, but I feel logic was kind of put aside for emotional impact, and the Expanse is one of the few shows were logic normally comes first.

[@johnjungkook2721]

@@snarflcat6187 They said 52, "not counting the crew". So actually you're wrong. They over-predicted it somewhat. Also it's bizarre how you're assuming that "man" is considered average in a futuristic world. What makes you think the initial estimate is based on the oxygen requirements of healthy men only? There probably aren't many full-lung-capacity men, like Amos, in space. They'll all be Belter men and women.

[@krisb.1565]

Is it just me or have BW’s reaction videos been really quiet?

[@thegeneral5052]

U guys should watch son of batman

[@nnamdi1971]

Is it just me or does it seem that Erin is not really getting into this show? Which is ok as not everything is for everybody.

[@MoviesAndTvShowsAreSubjective]

erin

[@karamshahin2771]

Gonna keep commenting till they put the extraordinary show, Transformers Prime on the poll

[@bobriemersma]

Worst part? The Roci shows up a bit later, plenty of oxygen. Naomi actually killed many Belters there who didn't have to die.

[@carrela1000]

They didn't know that for sure, hindsight makes everyone think they can make better decisions than those in the moment. It sucks yeah but saying this doesn't add anything

[@MrTiptopten]

I also get the feeling that getting through the blockade would be a one time, one way deal. There’s no way they could go back and get the survivors.

[@scottwatrous]

Yeah, if the Blockade wasn't there they could have gotten a few more off, but the Roci doesn't have scrubbers enough and so-on that it could sustain more than maybe at best 20-30 more which would be great but also not everyone. Because of the risk of returning it was likely better to just get out and make the best of it.

[@elvisibra]

@@MrTiptopten getting through the blockade depended on MCRN compassion, cause 30 MCRN ships are not afraid of one light frigate, they already blew up stealth light frigate there like nothing, but if the Roci came back on time, or if Naomi waited longer on surface, they would've saved more, not a lot more, but more..

[@iarba]

Captain ahab bit is always a lot and annoying af

[@snarflcat6187]

Disagree. This happens at the perfect time in the series, story-wise. This is right after most Reactors comment on Holden being a weak, indecisive, somewhat "just along for the ride" or sometimes "a weak leader." Remember Expanse was originally an RPG. Holden is the "Paladin" character type. But, recently until this episode he'd been experiencing a bit of a character crisis as to which TYPE of Paladin he'd turn into. Wishy-washy in many ways, a captain that takes votes among his crew instead of being decisive, refuses to pick a side in the brewing war, and who allows Amos to go off his leash with no restraint or consequences (which even disturbed Naomi). Will Holden be the decisively war-minded type of Paladin...or the kind that chivalrously defends the downtrodden and disempowered at all cost? In this episode Holden has his "decent into darkness" momentarily trying on the Paladin war-aspect...but the call of family (and refugees) in need finally decides his ultimate path for him. They chose the perfect moment in the storyline to have Holden "man-up" or perhaps "captain-up," or "paladin-up."

[@iarba]

@@snarflcat6187 unfortunately for me, the weak “leader” that I found mildly annoying turned into full blown hatered and it kinda crystallized in this episode. The hubris of not knowing what the protomocule really is, what it really does, knowing other evil humans were fucking with it and affecting it but not changing his approach to it, just full on determined thru it all somehow alway to blow it up/kill it. Can’t respect any of it. Hate Holden with the passion of a thousands suns; love the show. That’s were I’m at.

[@raizo6895]

This episode was really dumb and nerve wrecking. Suprised to see so much praise over probably the most meaningless decisions all pilled up in one episode and as usual saved by the plot. Oh there's air for only 52 people out of over 300 but let me (Naomi) be suicidal and open the door to everyone and tell them to die out of the goodness of there hearts. Just beautiful to see able-bodied men get bossed around by one macho dude and all of them just happily comply for no reason wse. When in fact panic and desperation should have made them tear down the ship. Poorly scripted and just dumb!