The Expanse | 6x4 Redoubt - REACTION!

[@remliqa]

Redoubt definition: a temporary or supplementary fortification, typically square or polygonal and without flanking defences. a place or situation in which someone or something is protected when they are being attacked or threatened.

[@jamesmayes4351]

You have to give the effects team a lot of props for that amputation scene. Michio uses a medical knife to cut down to the bone and flips her knife over to saw through it, textbook combat medicine. That had to cost a lot of money for that prosthetic.

[@matthewgillies7509]

I had asked my friend Michio (Vanessa) if we'd get to see her head-smashing skills again. She was coy, and merely told me to wait and see. I'm now going to call her Sawbones whenever I see her next.

[@jamesmayes4351]

@@matthewgillies7509 that's totally awesome. She did a great job in that scene.

[@cliveklg7739]

I tweeted to Michio actress Vanessa Smythe about that scene wondering how real it looked on set. She said it looked pretty real there too, the props dept outdid themselves.

[@axlm.808]

Apparently, some staff members turned their head away because it looked even more gore and gruesome on set than on screen

[@ProvidenceNL]

They apparently had only a limited number of prosthetics for this scene, since they were super accurate and expensive to make.

[@cynth7355]

It's clear that Naomi is going to have to be the one to end Marco. Hopefully Filip will walk away before it's too late. Adorable Michio was a hero in this episode...thank goodness Drummer didn't send her away!

[@amandadougherty6615]

I was thinking maybe Naomi’s statement to Filipino that his father wouldn’t die for him but would let him die for his father might come back into play, with Marco putting Filip into danger, and something may happen to turn Filip against Marco, and maybe he kills Marco…

[@Asticek]

the last two season Peaches just sky rocketed to top 3 of my favourite characters of the show

[@cluster_f1575]

Agreed. This show is chock-full of really great characters

[@axlm.808]

A great redemption arc. But I fear she might die in a final heroic move to fulfill it completely

[@TheDetailsMatter]

Holden was right about Marco. Simply killing him would elevate him to martyr status in the eyes of his followers. He would be unstoppable. Doesn't matter who kills him. Marco doesn't need to be ended. Marco needs to be unmade. His legend needs to be dispelled. Monica's documentaries are helping with that, but the two key people at large who can do him the most damage are Drummer and Filip. Drummer is in position to hand him humiliating defeats; Filip has it in his power to record and broadcast Marco telling how he really feels about Belters, in his own voice and his own words. Stick a needle in him and watch him pop like the foul gasbag he is.

[@dwnkaomwn3953]

Yeah, but he didn't spare Marco because of that reason anyway. His real reason as he just said to Naomi was because he didn't want her son's(Filip) blood on his hands. His selfishness will cost more lives before that war is over and Holden also gave Marco a perfectly good nuke to do as he sees fit. It wasn't worth it, at least not to me just for some subjective "be the better person" nonsense.

[@Quotenwagnerianer]

I was thinking about this as well. Too often fictional stories take the easy route and tell the story in the way that the big bad guy dies for his actions in some vengeful act. But there would be a lot going on for taking a different approach by having them shamed and put on trial. It's not as quick and easy to tell in this format, but it would be more realistic.

[@FreemanicParacusia]

“Marco doesn’t need to be ended. Marco needs to be unmade.” This. The “keystone army” trope is BS. Just look at OBL - Al Qaeda didn’t fold like a house of cards when he got zapped, someone else stepped up and the fighting continued. If Marco went down while the Azure Dragon was still operating, does anyone think they would have stopped throwing rocks?

[@hasan_1888]

AGREED 1000% "Marco doesn't need to be ended. Marco needs to be unmade." Also holden made a valid point that "I dont want to be the one that killed your son". Its valid coz only naomi is the one that needs to kill marco. We saw in the finale naomi awful reaction to killing her son. I cant imagine what holden would have felt if he had killed filip.

[@kevinwilliamenriquez2641]

You know Kat and Sonny are real fans too, because of how earnest they're also hoping that there will be something for book 7 to 9.

[@garethneller8239]

With all the set up stuff happening I am really hopeful that they are planning something

[@LeeCarlson]

A redoubt is a fort or fort system usually consisting of an enclosed defensive emplacement outside a larger fort, usually relying on earthworks, although some are constructed of stone or brick. So Ceres is Earth's redoubt.

[@FMJaqenHghar]

18:00 Michio made the space-equivalent of the Torstein-scene in Vikings 😁 A man drank for Josep's sake at this moment. A strong beratna! He survived it.

[@MS_25826]

I loved that scene between Naomi and Holden. I understood both povs. It’s a difficult situation.

[@Michael-ez3zg]

When Michio, _portrayed by Vanessa Smythe_ said to Joseph, _portrayed by Samer Salem_ "Hey, I love you.I'm so sorry". Then proceeded to cut off his arm. I'm too manly, so I wasn't the one crying, you were.

[@user-uo1qr6vn1q]

8:23 “Don’t forfeit our future for a sip of water.” Someone should tell this person that dead people tend to not have a future.

[@jayburn00]

There is a telltale game with Camina Drummer as the main character by the way. Don't know what it is about, but it is an original story apparently.

[@TheLostBear78]

It's a prequil story. Set before the Book's / Show.

[@CodyTaylor115]

What?! When what's it called

[@jayburn00]

@@CodyTaylor115 the expanse: a telltale series lol.

[@jayburn00]

@@CodyTaylor115 I don't think it's out yet, but I have seen trailers for it. They talked about it at the gamers choice Awards show (apparently they do previews and announcements in addition to honoring games made in that year).

[@WansVids]

@@jayburn00 It was first revealed at The Game Awards 2021. The resurrected (in name only) studio Telltale and Deck 9 are working on it. Cara Gee will reprise her role as Drummer, no release date yet.

[@Kennia1998]

Such an emotional episode right ?🥺🥺🥺

[@pseudonymousbeing987]

Right! Many moments had me quite emotional. Definitely the most emotional moments of the season so far.

[@CodyTaylor115]

This season may be shorter but the story isn't suffering from it! They took good care of this series its... Just epic and so amazing i do hope they bring the next books into some form of media. An animated version... With OG voice actors.... That makes me gitty just thinking about it

[@craigmcavoy445]

Props to Kat for the Band of Horses shirt!

[@Triskaan]

Yeah, that was a quieter but very emotionally charged episode, as you indeed did see. (and litteraly said out loud just a couple minutes after I typed this) These last two episodes are gonna be insane.

[@LeeCarlson]

Did you notice that Drummer's final words to Marco in her broadcast were the same as what Marco said to Ashford?

[@benjaminodonnell258]

No I didn't spot it - thankyou, makes her taunt even better!

[@pulsarecho1952]

I didn't notice either; good catch.

[@emwungarand]

Marco told Klaes "die in darkness, beratna". Similar but not the same

[@jasminmemorando6694]

I love this final season! All episodes are excellent!

[@garethneller8239]

What a fantastic episode! I love all the interactions between the Roci crew, everything makes sense and they have all earned their relationships over the seasons. Monica's reporting is a brilliant adaptation of how it is handled in the books. And Drummer is just BAD ASS!

[@LeeCarlson]

The opening scene on Laconia introduces the audience to Admiral Winston Duarte who is the architect of the entire Laconia project.

[@pamelahofman1785]

Yes! I freaked a little when Cortazar said his name.

[@TheDetailsMatter]

Cortazar said he thinks he can turn it on. I wonder if he'll also be able to turn it off, if needs be?

[@Kaseyberg]

Those dogs did what Dresden wanted to do lol

[@deanadewall8400]

Loved finally meeting Admiral Duarte. If the show had followed the books, then we should have met him last season. He was mentioned several times last season (especially the last episode), and is the reason Marco was able to fund his Free Navy stuff.

[@Kennia1998]

2 more episodes, I'm not ready 😭😭😭

[@artboymoy]

My guess is that the dudes on board the cargo were waiting for Marco and his ships, but the fight with the Roci delayed them so Drummer and crew got lucky. Also I may have tried to jump on at the cable center where it's moving the least and then worked my way to a pod. Feel sorry for the guy that lost his arm but Michio stepped up in a big way and Drummer was so bad ass in her speech!

[@Cbricklyne]

RE : "Also I may have tried to jump on at the cable center where it's moving the least and then worked my way to a pod." You don't know how long that cable was or how far apart those two depots were, so for all we know it could have taken a long time to work your way that way - and we all know that time isn't something they had on their hands. Also aiming to catch that cable at the correct point with a grappling hook is probably orders of degrees way waaaay harder than aiming for a storage container on one of the pods.

[@artboymoy]

@@Cbricklyne I can see time being a factor for the more dangerous approach, but if you watched 2010, when they went to board Discovery, they did it at the center of the spin. Much like when you're trying to catch a twirling baton, it's just easier.

[@Daneelro]

@@Cbricklyne The spaceship or a skiff could have brought the men quickly to the cable midpoint. Then, once they move down the cable, centrifugal force would accelerate them, and the challenge would be to brake, would need some specialised equipment or lots of backpack jet power. However, I think going for the cable midpoint would be a bad choice militarily, the guards would know quicker that you're coming.

[@Cbricklyne]

Sonny : "Are you a member of the Martell House?" No, but she (the actress Cara Gee) is a member of the Ojibwe, Native American/First Nations tribe in Canada, and the expression "Unbent, Unbowed, and Unbroken" actually originated with Native American peoples in North America long before G.R.R. Martin ever repurposed it for his Game of Thrones novels. So it was a spot of really clever writing for this episode that the show writers (that includes the writers of the Expanse books, Ty Franck and Daniel Abraham - the latter of whom actually worked FOR G.R.R. Martin as a copywriter while he was writing Game of Thrones) decided to add that line and have her be the one that says it.

[@axlm.808]

And giving another great speech to Drummer in the way

[@ProvidenceNL]

It wasnt a reference to the Martells, its a much older saying! At least i think so. Youre right about Martin and at least one of the 2 writers of Expanse being good friends so it might still be a reference haha.

[@kualarompin589]

Filip is becoming more like his father. Instead of owning his mistake, he blamed others, instead of saying ''I am sorry, I got distracted"

[@Brswing]

He's conflicted, and he's falling back on what he knows and what he has been taught. Truly interesting to see him grapple with the effects of what they are doing. In most cults, what is being purveyed is nonsense but in the Free Navy's/Belters' case, they have been wronged and they are fighting back. The problem with this obviously is that they are becoming exactly like the people that wronged them in the past. Hell, I'd argue that they are worse than those that came before them. Not only are they affecting Earth/Mars in a detrimental way, but they are affecting their own people as well, hoarding necessary resources and actively working against their own people on top of that, to stick it to the Inners. The whole entire reason why Filip is so unbalanced is because on one hand, he is like his father. He's been brought up by him, of course he's going to fall back on what he's been taught. His time with his mother though has obviously put a chink in that armor. They killed millions with the rocks, and they're putting billions at risk on top of that, and he's obviously hearing what his mother said in his head. He has tried to distract himself with women, alcohol, and visions of grandeur that he and the FN are doing the right thing. We'll see what happens, and which side will win out in the end, but it's been a very interesting journey to get to this point.

[@eds1942]

Yeah, I think he’s about ready to break.

[@Matisaro]

Still here watching every episode, glad you guys are enjoying!

[@Cydonius1]

The worst part of it is that the Strange Dogs novella we are seeing at the beginning of each episode is basically a teaser for the 7th to 9th books which we will never see. Cara and Xan (the 2 children on Laconia) will play a central part in those books yet at most we have 10 more minutes of screen time with them in the next 2 eps :/

[@Quotenwagnerianer]

But the fact that they didn't write the Laconia scenes out of the show, which they could have done easily, shows that they do have plans of adapting the final 3 books, in whatever form.

[@deanadewall8400]

Redoubt means 'temporary fortification' and has nothing to do with the word "doubt". Also, the 3 words that Drummer used in her speech have nothing to do with GoT. They're from an old Native American quote, and quite fitting since Cara Gee is Indigenes. I hope that's the reason the writers put it in there, and not GoT.

[@TheDetailsMatter]

A more general interpretation would be a fall-back position, which the episode seems to showcase. Avasarala's fall-back is to show people that the Free Navy is their true enemy. The Martian's fall-back is direct confrontation, whether it meets Crisjen's approval or not. Marco's fall-back is to space anyone who displeases him. Lucky for him he still has one subordinate willing to stand up to him. Holden is apparently falling back to the days of making really bad decisions for all the right reasons. It turns out well, but not for any of the reasons he gives. Killing Marco would be like killing Obi-wan Kenobi. He would only become more powerful than we could possibly imagine. Before he can be ended, his well-crafted persona needs to be vandalised.

[@FreemanicParacusia]

“We are still here” was the giveaway. “Unbent, unbowed, unbroken” was an indigenous oath co-opted by Game of Thrones, not originating from it.

[@bcpr9812]

I am loving Amos and Bobbie's friendly rivalry.

[@JimNortonsAlcoholism]

Waiting for the payoff when they finally bang

[@martensjd]

I fear that I will die empty after internalizing the fact that there are just two more episodes. I know the excuses for doing a 6 episode season, but it's not enough.

[@garethneller8239]

I would have loved a longer season, but they managed to nail the whole of book 3 in half a season so I have faith!

[@shuckins]

Though I loved last weeks short X-Ray episode, the one for episode 4 is my favorite thus far.

[@jonabitstream]

Actually, a redoubt is a defensive fortification. This episode seems to have been about emphasizing declaring various certainties (Drummer), sometimes internally conflicting ones (Holden and Naomi), returning to them (Phillip).

[@boomgames_11]

Yay, been looking forward to your reaction. This is my first comment but I've watched you on and off for a while :)

[@morgan1168]

👍❤️🐶 Wishing you guys a very Happy New Year and to many more to come.

[@JimNortonsAlcoholism]

Duarte seems like a nice chap.

[@m.e.3862]

Happy new year you 2! Thanks for the hard work over the last year! Love your reactions and wishing you both a great 2022 🙂👍

[@axlm.808]

Remember what Sauveterre said to Babbage before being erased. Duarte wants a "perfect society" on Laconia. Failure = death So, the firing squad is logical even if it seems a bit extreme

[@FreemanicParacusia]

It’s a tame means of execution compared to what Laconians do in the books. No mention yet of the Pen…

[@Devils4TheWin]

I love When great things collide, The Expanse + Kat & Sonny + Band of Horses! = Weed Party!

[@matthewfors114]

you look like a vampire prince and she an elf princess, light and dark couple lol

[@tomaszmankowski9103]

This season is brilliant, just like the season before, much like season 3. Excellent show. Don't you just love the dynamic between Holden and his would be killer? It is exceptional that Clarissa became such an interesting character despite the fact she was essentially a faceless villain in season 3. Great the show didn't just leave her by dumping her in prison and saying 'job done'. Philipp is changing I think, he is uncertain and is lashing out to hide it - he is facing tough questions about who he really is so tries to bury it in an outburst of anger just like he was hiding in keeping himself busy on Ceres. Camina - such an excellent character and pretty much built in the process of creating the show. Cara Gee is great actress to make it impossible to leave the character without more development. Plus the scene when they were boarding the supply dump is awesome. Also interesting how the main 'rogue Martian' admiral Duarte was introduced. You could do that in so many ways, but they've chosen this one which exposes so much humanity and gives out his justification. That can be scary. The scene when two people who have problems with expressing emotions express grief by singing is very good. Finally the movie made by Monica is very moving and so relevant in out troubled times of divided societies, hatred, fear and anger. Take care! And let's hope that 2022 will be better.

[@GSFBlade]

Happy new year! Wishing you both the best in 2022. I really hope they have something more planned for this show, it's too good to end now.

[@jamesholland5761]

Happy New Year!! Great reaction and analysis!! This show as you stated is something very special to me at least. This is an adult show yes. And it has something for everyone. But the thing that just amazes me is that the writing doesn't pick political sides but instead makes us as humans to take a look at ourselves in a way that organic and reach our moral compass. That is very special science fiction writing. GOD..... I'M GOING TO MISS THIS SHOW 😢

[@bthsr7113]

Philip is realizing what serving under his father means. If he is to follow Marco, that means killing belter lowda like Drummer.

[@rektifyr...]

24:38 I don't know if they're wrapping up the Free Navy, but Marco is definitely going down by the end of this. This episode has geniunely made me consider the possibility of Filip taking command of the Free Navy and leading it down a more compassionate path going forward.

[@Drummer4President]

It make perfect sense to anyone else that Camina Drummer was a Dornish Princess in a previous life? 🌞🐍

[@gilserrano8301]

As always good job.

[@knowyourhistory]

Can't believe the show is almost over. I think this is the end of the road and we won't get any more Expanse, at least not with this cast and crew. Maybe they can continue with more video games after the Drummer one. Also you guys should watch Beforeigners on HBO Max.

[@davebcf1231]

We'll see. Ty Franck has been hinting for months that they might have something planned, but that may have been the video game. There's also been rumors the show just had to "end" temporarily because of some issue with how the contract is written, but that's unconfirmed. Alcon is the production company and they're predominantly known for doing movies so I wouldn't be surprised if they have some plans for it, but it depends how profitable it's been for them of course.

[@knowyourhistory]

@@davebcf1231 It's hard to imagine the show jumping to yet another streaming service. And I think by now it's clear Amazon is done with the show. Shortened final season and not much promotion. Hiding the bonus footage behind a terrible UI.

[@deanadewall8400]

@@knowyourhistory Amazon may not be interested, but they do own the streaming rights for all of the 6 seasons, for 2-3 more years. Maybe they'll give them up after a year...who knows?

[@davebcf1231]

@@knowyourhistory Ty said the shortened season was to get the most out of the budget, but I'm not sure how much he's actually allowed to say about why. There are rumors that the "end" of the run is due to something in the contract where they needed to "end" the show at six seasons and then "restart" it to make the money situation work, like I said. There's been an article or two about it, but nothing confirmed so who knows if it's true. Netflix is also an option since it's already one of the distribution platforms for it overseas.

[@madux42]

@@davebcf1231 The show isn't on Netflix anymore since its move to Amazon.

[@nepabum]

Do you guys know about the extra scenes in the "bonus content" section of the episodes? They are only around 5 min. each but they are worth watching.

[@KatSonny]

Yep. We have been talking about them in our intros, and will continue to do so 🙂

[@Prodigalzson]

From now on, I am referring to Camina Drummer as "The Red Viper". However they choose to end this show, at least all of the characters aren't suddenly behaving like totally different people.

[@remliqa]

If you referring to season 8 of GoT: None of the characters in that season behave out of character . Sure there plenty of problems with the last season (mainly because it was rushed) , but out of character isn't one of them.

[@Prodigalzson]

@@remliqa Agree to disagree.

[@vmgiceman]

I'm not sure if you are aware, but they have bonus episodes after each episode that focus on a different character. Once the episode is over move your cursor and "X-Ray" appears on the top right. Click "View All" and then "Bonus Content" and you'll see the mini-episodes.

[@KatSonny]

We have been talking about them in our intros to each reaction, and will continue to do so 🙂

[@vmgiceman]

@@KatSonny Totally missed that--I've been skipping straight to the reaction. I'll have to go back and watch the intros now.

[@rocinante4609]

I can see Holden's justification for sparing the Pella but ultimately it's a selfish choice. He has put his personal relationship with Naomi above the larger cause which makes him a bad leader and a bad captain. I keep going back and forth over Filip coz sometimes I feel he will see the light and end Marco or at least leave him and sometimes I feel he's all in. I am glad the final season is not all action and there's still character moments though. I have a bad feeling that this will all end in heartbreak in the final episode.

[@KatSonny]

From what he said to Naomi, it might’ve sounded selfish, sure. But there’s also another good reason - if Marco had died then and there, he would’ve become a martyr, and that might have made things even more difficult. As someone else wrote in a comment - Marco can’t just be killed, he needs to be unmade and outed for everyone to see. But yeah, you’re probably right about this ending with some sort of heartbreak in the final episode.

[@rocinante4609]

@@KatSonny The reasons that Holden gave Naomi is the real reason, anything else is just positive spin, isn't it? Holden surely wouldn't lie to Naomi about something as big as this. Regardless of that, you could compare Marco to a infamous genocidal maniac of the 20th century. Surely there's no argument to keep him alive. Even if Marco becomes a martyr, he's too dangerous on the loose. Naomi was right when she said that Holden has indirectly made her responsible for everything Marco does from that point on.

[@jayburn00]

Been a while Kat and Sonny, for some reason I was missing your video posts for a few months. Happy to be back with you. Happy to see you are enjoying the final season, its been good. By the way, have you read any of the books?

[@Riddler0603]

Same. Maybe because they were almost exclusively watching Anime stuff for the last 8 months or so.

[@jayburn00]

@@Riddler0603 should have still gotten notifications though. What animes?

[@jayburn00]

Never mind, at least some of it was attack on titan.

[@Matisaro]

I am curious as to where you are hearing the negative feedback, everything I have seen about this season on the webs has been positive.

[@artboymoy]

Squeaky wheels. I've been entertained by the season. Some episodes have more going on than others, but it's good stuff to tie the series up. All the past friends we saw last episode was great.

[@Matisaro]

@@artboymoy yep been super solid. Books stuck the landing too.

[@KatSonny]

We get comments from unhappy people on approximately every episode that are negative about this series/season - they are few, but they are still there.

[@Matisaro]

@@KatSonny Ahh, can't make everyone happy, glad you two are enjoying it as am I. I finished the last book and they really stuck the landing great series and should win several awards if the buzz is any indication.

[@samelis8617]

Are you guys going to react to the 5 minute mini-episodes in the bonus content?

[@KatSonny]

watch the intros

[@samelis8617]

@@KatSonny ah, sorry about that.

[@RoyCyberPunk]

I cannot imagine how they are going to wrap all this up in the 2 remaining episodes of this last season and that has me concerned.

[@TheSirUno]

Ye of little faith and imagination. Pretty sure "they" know what they are doing - we should all know this by now.

[@fgtypezero0684]

I think Marco, filip, and naiomi storyline will end. The liconia storyline will be open-ended…too be continued in the hopeful 7th(12 episodes!!) season.

[@Brawls05]

If we are lucky, a huge battle.

[@madux42]

Depends on what "all this" means to you. The season will wrap up book 6, and as a reader I believe they can end this in a satisfying way. But there are 3 more books full of story after that.

[@Reedstilt]

I'm loving Rosenfield this season. She's a very different character than her book counterpart, but I dig her snarky loyal opposition attitude. If they continue the series and she managed to survive this season, I kind of hope they bring the actress/character back and let her pick up some other book-parts like Drummer did. She'd be a great substitute for the "Katria Mendez" character in the next bit of the story.

[@axlm.808]

She looks like she's way too much ambitious and manipulative to stay alive long alongside Marco

[@Reedstilt]

@@axlm.808 Close proximity to Marco Inaros, in general, lowers your long-term survivability.

[@axlm.808]

@@Reedstilt Staying away from the airlocks might reduce the risks

[@Reedstilt]

@@axlm.808 Once they're around Inaros for too long, women can help but throw themselves out of airlocks.

[@wow664112]

That lucky earther scene hit even harder when you look at Israel-Palestine today

[@ODST_Viking]

Are you guys watching the X-ray bonus scenes off camera? Even if you don't include them in the reaction they're worth watching if you're able.

[@davebcf1231]

They talked about the x-ray from last episode in the intro

[@KatSonny]

Watch the intros

[@ODST_Viking]

@@KatSonny my bad, sorry

[@roaringviking5693]

I'm so over Filip. As I see it, it's too late for any redemption for him, and I really hope they don't go that route. He doesn't have any redeeming qualities at this point, and even though I suppose it's more true to life that way, it doesn't work for me. It's been dragged out too long.

[@pablom-f8762]

Self-sacrifice might be the thing for him.

[@newmie]

are you guys watching the X-Ray content?

[@KatSonny]

Watch the intros

[@madux42]

are you watching their video?

[@gregsomlai297]

These are really good old school episodes, just not for the last 6. All the drawn-out Naomi stuff from the previous one should've been condensed to give room for THESE six episodes. So that this short last season could tie up the story of Expanse. Not just the story of "what's up with Marco and co." Now there are still two episodes left, but they can't possible change that dropping the entire rings/aliens story-line, was an unfortunate move, in my opinion. I'm really curious how it'll end, though.

[@ginganinjav5220]

They've already said that they aren't trying to finish it. Also in the books there's a 30 year time jump btwn books 6 and 7, and this was the best place to pause the story until another method (or time) comes around for more of the Expanse.

[@Tortuosit]

I'm in S05 and I passionately DO NOT LIKE NOR AM I INTERESTED in the Inaros family affairs, which is a lot of the season. Pretty disappointed hence.

[@ginganinjav5220]

sorry you're disappointed fam. Hopefully you are able to pull through cheerily enough and get past it

[@dwnkaomwn3953]

Yeah, Holden's selfish actions just gave Marco a perfectly good nuke. It was not worth it, even for Naomi's kid(Filip). Yeah, I get trying to do the right thing, but not at the cost of stopping a war and saving lives whether they're from Earth, Mars, or the Belt.

[@martincrabtree7378]

The whole Marco/Filip etc etc is nothing,,the big picture is how the kid is brought back to life by the space dogs..now that shit is scary and bigger than everything so far..and we won't get an answer to this this season,,or everrrrrrr

[@roaringviking5693]

I don't think that the scene with the Hank Williams song worked that well. We have only seen Alex listeneing to music during one scene (as far as I can remember) and it was several seasons ago. That fact makes this scene feel like it's trying to make the viewers feel sentimental without having any substance behind it.

[@deanadewall8400]

Then u weren't paying attention.

[@AngeloBarovierSD]

From what I've seen from reactors, the scene appears to be having the desired effect.

[@TheDetailsMatter]

Saw Alex listening to his tunes on headphones on at least two occasions in season three, and saw him chasing free fall beer droplets to this very tune on speakers to relieve boredom in season two.

[@deanadewall8400]

@@TheDetailsMatter Also in S3, his headphones were floating around with country music coming out of them, when Naomi found him injured in the galley. Way too many scenes for anyone to forget his love of that kind of music.

[@madux42]

@@deanadewall8400 ..and don't forget that Bar on Mars. ;)