The Explorers Journey: My alternatives to the Rolex Explorer

Personal story about my quest for a Rolex Explorer alternatives. There are a few back and forth around the concept of the Rolex Explorer, the right size, function and looks. Will talk about some alternatives I got and considered, and also a few new ones I'm still checking.
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[@almatt8310]

This channel should get much much more views and subs. No brand pushing, no BS just observations and honest opinion. As a watch enthusiast I feel bad for not having seen this channel before. Well done. Keep them coming please. Subscribed 👍

[@TheWatchFrame]

Wow, thanks a lot for your words. Please, don't feel bad at all. Your kind words do really compensate anything else. I really appreciate that. I guess I'm not the kind of person who thinks so low of the viewers to push them to subscribe each time, and I tend to stay away from social networks. I do this channel because I love watches, photography and history. One reason I might not grow fast is because it takes quite some time for me to put a video together. I try to make them the way I'd like to see videos, and that's a lot of work. But well, right now I'm working on two videos, so I expect to have more videos published soon.

[@deanwatkins5204]

Absolutely beautiful video, KZbin is full of videos of low quality of people just using the platform for bragging rights, this is a real genuine heartfelt watch enthusiasts journey, it’s fantastic you achieved your grail watch, wear it in good health my friend 🙏❤️

[@TheWatchFrame]

Wow, thanks a lot for your words. That really encourages me!

[@deanwatkins5204]

❤️

[@Leventgursoy11]

Totally agree with you...

[@art5544]

Please don’t stop making videos such as this one. They’re incredibly informative. Thank you.

[@TheWatchFrame]

Wow. Thanks a lot. I'm actually preparing one right now. Hope to finish soon(ish).

[@degenerateWA]

Beautifully written

[@TheWatchFrame]

Thanks a lot!

[@EricBishard]

I really love the Traska Venturer II it's now my daily wearer, it's almost a year and a half old without a single scratch. It's unscrstchable, i travel with it and it gets a lot more wear than my Tudor Black Bay.

[@TheWatchFrame]

Yes! These watches are adventure proof for sure. A great option to have indeed.

[@hugoherrera4504]

I feel like I have been on the adventure with you, started watching your channel when you got the time factors watch and had the problems, I’ve been right alongside you, excellent video, good perspective on life, keep up the good work, my grandparents are both from Spain,Buenas noches

[@TheWatchFrame]

That is awesome! ¡Muchas gracias y saludos a tus abuelos! Glad to have you along this journey. For me is really a discovery experience and I'm happy to be in such great company.

[@epijournal8423]

I think a lot of people have been or are on the same journey. I myself would love the 36 but have settled for a Serica 4512. It's got more of an omega feel with the arrow hands but has the retro explorer feel in spades. awesome vid !

[@TheWatchFrame]

Thanks. Yes, the Serica is a great looking watch indeed. Have seen a lot of people enjoying it. Now I just learnt about the new Tudor Ranger, a great alternative at 39mm.

[@ThomasEmge]

What a wonderful and well told story. I am glad I stumbled across your video today. We might be on a similar journey to find the ultimate watch and I thank you for sharing yours with the KZbin audience.

[@TheWatchFrame]

Thanks a lot Sir for your kind words. It really took a lot of effort to put this video together. I feel I'm still enjoying the adventure of learning about this watch and others alike. Soon will release a video comparing some similar watches.

[@DatamarkSystemsSL-Spain]

What a wonderful video !!! Thanks

[@VMIyanks04]

Great video! Thank you! I really love the Explorer and hope to get one someday day. You had some great quotes in this video, about that the Explorer is your watch Destiny; and that the actions of a person make the association of the watch. That’s something I always need to remember since I always feel that my Moonwatch is my watch destiny; and my kids are now associating me with my Moonwatch! Yet I’m always tempted to trade it in for the Explorer, since I love that too! It’s hard once we catch the “bug” to only be a one-watch guy!

[@TheWatchFrame]

A lot has changes since this video, but after some experiences my thoughts have changed slightly. I'd suggest not to trade your watch. The most important thing here is the sentimental attachment to a watch, be it the Explorer, the Moonwatch or a Casio A158. That is something hard to replicate again. That kind of attachment is very hard to pass from one watch to another. Both watches are great and each in its specific way. I sincerely though the Explorer was my destiny when I made this video, but now I'm no so sure. I'll explain in a future video and will cover it briefly in the SOTC video I'm currently editing...

[@VMIyanks04]

@@TheWatchFrame thank you for your reply! I’m eager to hear your updates!

[@dannyg6592]

Love this video! My Explorer journey started with a San Martin 39mm Vintage Explorer - nice watch but too much negative space on the dial. Then an Alpha Explorer 36mm - an excellent homage to the 14270 Explorer. I wanted a 1016 homage next, so picked up the latest version of the Smiths Everest. Loved it so much, then bought a Smiths Commando and a Smiths Silver Jubilee. I've had excellent customer service from Timefactors with all 3 watches. Now I am waiting on my AD to get me a 124270 Explorer. I also want a 36mm Traska Summiteer in mint green.

[@TheWatchFrame]

Thanks for sharing your story. I too had a Smiths Everest but couldn't get around the idea it was a copy of the 1016, not a true homage. After the awful experience with the Smiths Expedition I sold both never to look back again at this "brand" or better said, this company. Glad to know that there are experiences of having a good experience after support was required for something being wrong with the watches from Timefactors. The Traska is awesome in 36mm. The green is also very tempting for me but need to sell the 38mm green one first as I'm planing to do. The 124270 is a special watch and hope you get yours soon!

[@dannyg6592]

@@TheWatchFrame Thanks, I am looking forward to getting my 124270. I know some have had issues with Timefactors, but my experience - all 3 times - has been superb. All 3 watches were delivered promptly and in perfect condition. I had some technical questions and Eddie answered them promptly and was warm and friendly in his emails. I love those 3 Smiths watches and wear them often. Cheers!

[@TheWatchFrame]

@@dannyg6592 that is great to hear. Wear them in good heath. Those watches are quite good.

[@edenamar5887]

Thank you for this beautiful video and your journey! I share the same love for the Explorer and had the Grand Seiko Heritage black dial for a year as an alternative but thought it was too elegand for an explorer. Been hunting and comparing for months and finally decided the new Hamilton Expedition 37mm as the alternative. Although it has bezel and different style, I also wanted something of its own design not a direct homage. Given the bezel is same color as the case, I think the dial is closer to 36mm Explorer. Wearability is hopefully as close to Explorer but could be more similar like black bay 54. My Expedition should be arriving this week, too excited. If you do another alternative video, I found Omega Railmaster 36mm discontinued to be very close but the price ia also very similar because it's discontinued.

[@TheWatchFrame]

Thanks for your comment. I tried the Hamilton 37 a few months ago and I found it to be very interesting piece. To me it does has what it needs to be a companion in may adventures, specially hiking and mountain related. Hope you enjoy it a lot!

[@MBrown-ct5zn]

A true watch collectors journey. I'm very impressed with your video.

[@TheWatchFrame]

Thanks a lot!

[@jb-hw9if]

I've had s similar Explorer journey during which I deviated more into the Explorer 2 territory. Long story but I did come back into Explorer territory with the latest Tudor Ranger, which is obviously 39mm. I do have some smaller watches and have considered the 36mm Smiths as an Explorer test but there is also a brand called Enoksen that do a modern looking 36mm Explorer, affordable and uses a Seiko hybrid/meca-quartz movement, it's called the Deco. I have another model from the Enoksen range and can vouch for their customer service and quality. I may try the Deco. As a side note I wish I had bought the Lorier Safari (Urban Gentry) copper dial.

[@TheWatchFrame]

Didn't know about Enoksen and the Deco model. Thanks for sharing the information. Looks nice. I believe the 36mm is kind of a magical size for this type of understated non obtrusive and elegant watch, but yes, it take some time to get used to it. However once on that route it is really hard to go back to larger sizes, except for divers, pilots or the like watches.

[@brett233]

Great video! I think you missed the most obvious alternative, the Tudor Black Bay 36. Keeps a similar case design with similar glossy black dial and indices. Also keeps similar proportions and quality. All for a fraction of an Explorer.

[@TheWatchFrame]

Yes, I missed that one and a lot more I guess. True. I have been considering that one more after I got the Explorer as a matter of fact. Back at the day I didn't make much research about this option but now it seems like a very competent one.

[@watchesdreams]

Nice video. Did this video come just before the Tudor Ranger was released again in 39mm?

[@TheWatchFrame]

Not sure, but most probably yes.

[@kenrankin5814]

Fantastic video and congratulations on purchasing your Explorer! The heart wants what the heart wants! I love the Explorer dial layout as well so I do have a few watches in that style, and one day would love an Explorer myself, but along the way I did find a couple of watches that scratched that itch. One is the Seiko SNKE63, a watch with fantastic lume and is 38mm with a 20mm lug width. Another is from Long Island Watch, the ISL-54, bigger at 40mm but dances between an Explorer/Ranger homage and has a orange seconds hand. For myself, I am wearing the Version 1 of the San Martin Climbing watch/Explorer homage with a sterile dial and vintage lume. It has to be my favorite watch, I would say! I will have to go to your review of the Explorer now! 🙂

[@TheWatchFrame]

Now you have very good options there. The San Martin you mention looks really good. Also the ISL is a very solid watch from the looks at least! Thanks for sharing your picks!

[@allanbrown8137]

Excellent video! The trip is indeed as much fun as the destination

[@TheWatchFrame]

Yes indeed! And still is fun.

[@simptrix007]

I like your journey, my lust for smaller watch is leaning towards Tudor 1926 36mm to put it on the black leather strap for office use.

[@TheWatchFrame]

Yes, my wife and I checked that Tudor too. Really classy! Oh, and with a black strap it must look awesome, really.

[@michaelriera6277]

Hola Mario, What a wonderful story. Thank you for taking us through your journey. I too feel the 124270 is as close to perfection as any watch can achieve. I’ve owned and sold many watches but there are 6 watches that mark special moments or process such unique characteristic that will forever be part of my collection. I’ve found my Khaki King responsible for sparking my interest in the Explorer and ultimate purchase.

[@TheWatchFrame]

Yes, the Hamilton, although I sold it, sparks always a good memory.

[@DennisBible]

I thought I would throw one more into the mix. The Christopher Ward Sandhurst. I have one and the fit and finish is amazing.

[@TheWatchFrame]

Yesss! That one is great too. Thanks a lot. Will take a closer look. Cheers!

[@gride5153]

Thank-you very much for your wonderful video. There are so many of parts of your journey that I can relate too - the hunt for that one watch. I think I know that I want the Rolex OP 36mm, but I still second guess if it’s too small for my 17.5cm wrist. I’ve even purchase that black Tropic strap you have in the video in preparation. Your video has helped me to feel more comfortable with the 36mm size. Did you ever doubt the Explorer 36mm size before buying it?

[@TheWatchFrame]

Thanks for your comment. No, I didn't have any doubt about the size before buying. Actually that was the trigger I needed to go checking the watch and finally buying it. I knew I wanted it in 36 because I wanted something more elegant and less conspicuous. I had gotten used to 36mm since I tried that size first a couple of years ago and got sold to it. I have had more doubts after so many comments in the reviews I made saying it's too small. But no, it is not, not for me at least. It is something different and has its own charm and presence and one has only to get used to it :)

[@Klunker1]

I really enjoyed this video. Head and shoulders above most watch channels.

[@TheWatchFrame]

Wow, thanks a lot!

[@grahamwarner8731]

A thoughtful and well produced piece. I always enjoy your videos. My suggestions for all field/explorer watch lovers is to check out the Serica 4512 (field watch). The California dial is beautiful/uncluttered and the 37.7mm watch can take a beating. It is a truly versatile and quality watch.

[@TheWatchFrame]

Thanks and yes, a nice option. Really looks tough!

[@Dialandhands]

I love the format of this vid. I’m surprised you didn’t stumble across the SPB117 alpinist with the black dial and silver hour markers, without numerals. I feel like that’s a closer alternative design and color scheme but unfortunately, it’s still not the explorer😅😂

[@TheWatchFrame]

Thanks Jack. Well, yes I saw the SPB117 but for some reason the cyclops doesn't really suit my personal taste. I love the color combination as you say but I guess in my quest the SARB017 summarizes the whole similar lineup of the SPB177 too.

[@ZWolfgang]

I, too, am a huge fan of the look of the Explorer. But to my mind, the value of a Rolex is not there. On a lark, I decided to order the $60 Pagani PD-1692, which is a close copy of the Explorer with a Seiko-made NH-35A movement. As a test, I felt it was easy to spend the $60 to see how I liked the watch. As it turned out, I LOVE the PD-1692. The case, bracelet, build quality and time keeping of the NH35A totally won me over. I am quite pleased and. fully satisfied with the Pagani Explorer copy. Awesome watch and a truly incredible value! I would buy this watch again in a heartbeat.

[@TheWatchFrame]

Thanks for commenting. It is true that the Explorer is overpriced but mainly because of the brand Rolex. Taking the brand aside, the watch is worth well around 4.000-5.000 euros easily. The movement is simply awesome and the finishing unbelievable. But that's price, not value. We give value to our watches. I'm very happy with the Explorer despite its flaws, but also I really enjoy the Addiedive Rolex 1016 direct design copy, that, on the other hand, allows me to have a glimpse of what the true Explorer, the 1016, could feel like. We find nice watches in all price points and of all natures.

[@alb.4089]

4.8k views and only 218 likes? Man people who watch your videos need to do better. Your content is one of a kind!

[@TheWatchFrame]

haha, thanks!

[@heathwoodruff6975]

Yo! My man! Enjoy every video, every time. Thanks for taking us all on this journey! What a wealth of personal knowledge wrapped up in a well edited package. Bravo, Sir. 124270 Forever!

[@TheWatchFrame]

Thanks a lot!

[@Kawartha65]

Such a great video! You have a real cinematic flare combined with a folksy storytelling which is really engaging. Next level stuff!…. you should have way more followers. Hang in there.

[@TheWatchFrame]

Thanks a lot for the comment. I really love movies and photography and, yes, story telling, thus I'm very happy to learn about how to do this using this channel and this passion for watches.

[@algoone5373]

Amazing Video! I also recently got the 124270 and now I am a one watch person! The explorer is a true one watch collection to me its perfect lifetime companion. Your insight with your videos are appreciated. Keep up the great reviews & insights about life. Happy to have found your channel, I am excited to hear you long-term review of your explorer and how you enjoy it since your purhase. I found if you have a watch you want such as the explorer nothing with scartch the itch execpt the real deal.

[@TheWatchFrame]

Actually it took me to achieve the watch to also fully appreciate all the other watches I have or have owned. Of course that comparison and appreciation is only possible with the "real deal" so to say, but the alternatives are very well worth too to have or to have experienced. What a mean is that sometimes there's people, me included, that might not be able to achieve or may even want to spend that much money and we need to take pride and joy of the pieces we get meanwhile.

[@Tataritos]

Very interesting journey, I'm in the same journey too (Indy's bag included). What about the Longines Conquest? The 39mm black has all... name, purpose, diveresque water resistance, style... Un saludo!

[@TheWatchFrame]

Yes, that one caught my attention too. Didn't try it at the end but yes, if you like its design seems like a very nice option. ¡Gracias!

[@theleftywatchnerd1532]

Magnífico vídeo Mario! Great edition and very elegant! As another original design alternative to the Explorer, I would propose the Seiko SPB243J1

[@TheWatchFrame]

Thanks. Yes, that one looks great, and also the 1959 limited edition.

[@Nostalgicsunrise03]

Hello Mario, Incredible and intimate story of your journey to your dream watch. I thoroughly enjoyed it. The watches that you have acquired and explored may provide answers to others who may find themselves somewhat in similar paths. Thank you for the inspiration. Cheers, Merv

[@TheWatchFrame]

Thanks a lot Merv and also for your collaboration here. Your images have really inspired and helped me also to understand why theses vintage exploring pieces are the way the are and so important not only for horology but for us who love the wilds.

[@Nostalgicsunrise03]

@@TheWatchFrame the pleasure is absolutely mine. It's an honour to be able to contribute and I'm beyond happy that they come in handy. You couldn't have said it more accurately. We are all drawn to these incredible watches simply because we connect to the great outdoors and the spirit of adventure. Happy to be able to connect with you in this manner. It's beautiful. Once again, cheers to the solid work of expressing and sharing your story with the world. 🥃🥃🥃

[@kkatpheiz]

Great story, unfortunately there's no big and deep path to Explorer for smaller wrists, where you can wear 34-36mm only for promising look, so I keep staying with San Martin, because there's no real deal gap between CN microbrands and Khaki's, for example, not saying about Smiths even, they're very overage in terms of quality, there is some C63 from Christopher Ward which looks pretty good, fresh and unique, but for me they're just too modern, I want slight vintage look of Explorer nor Ranger, so yeah, that's my little story, somewhere-in-between, and funny thought I still staying with such a cheap homage, only because it fully embrace my taste and wants. Khaki's are cool tho!

[@TheWatchFrame]

I have some experience with a San Martin watch and was amazed, even back then, about their quality, so nothing to feel ashamed there. If you like the looks and performance of the watch, then great. The design of the Explorer 1016 or the Ranger for that matter, really broke the mold. Hard to make something new improving upon that. Neither Rolex nor Tudor will faithfully replicate that design, they will adapt to the modern tropes, which for some leaves only the option of direct design copies of watches and here San Martin is really offering great options. I hope to try one of those in the future.

[@jaysterling26]

Very enjoyable video & exploration ( sorry...). I thought about the Traska but I'm now saving up for the 36 Sealander as the specs & design seem better/enhanced. I see TGV has just co-produced his own version - probability already sold out . However, alternative it has some nice specs I think the dial & case designs are not for me e.g. it's too much like my Citizen 'Ray Mears ' - fine for a field watch but not enough for full 'GADA'. (¡Uf, que texto largo!).

[@TheWatchFrame]

Thanks for commenting. Yes, the 36mm Sealander is a great option. I had the 39mm GMT Sealander and the quality and finishing is top notch. I sold mine because it was the white version and there was not enough contrast between the hands and the dial. However the quality and general specs is so great that I hope to get the black GMT Sealander in the future. You can't go wrong with either the Sealander or the Summiteer. In my case I like the numerals, my personal involvement with the watch and the brand and the hardened case. Would love to have both if money wasn't an issue to be honest. Oh, the bracelet with the on the fly adjustment of the Sealander is awesome. Simple awesome.

[@CFCseventy]

Very good review 👍

[@NexDim.]

After falling down the watch rabbit hole a few years ago, I can definitely say this is a top 5 favorite video. Great work! My daily and explorers watch is the sarb017 and hope to have an explorer one day.

[@TheWatchFrame]

I have the Sarb017 and it's a great watch. Certainly capable. Thanks a lot for your words.

[@DennisBible]

Awesome video as usual. The Explorer in 36mm is my grail and I too have been looking for something to scratch the itch. What do you think about the Seiko SBDC115? The also make it with a blackish dial as well. It kind of has the Explorer vibe without being an homage.

[@TheWatchFrame]

Thanks Dennis. First I'm quite fine with true homages but true, the SBDC115 is a watch all of its own. I have been a real firm candidate for me when I just recently decided I wanted to have an Alpinist too. See, I've been long wanting to have the SARB017 and when a friend and follower of the channel let me tried his, I knew I had to have one. However prices where a bit too high and I did consider the SBDC115 and was about to buy one, seriously. Still to this day I feel I would really like to own one, maybe the blue one to have a change. Well, I finally got the SARB017 at good old retail price and it is great. Actually wearing it while I write this lines. But yes, the SBDC115 is a mountain and exploring watch all of it's own and seems to be very versatile. Love it.

[@MaleGolfer]

Just discovered your channel and subscribed. I enjoy your excellent videography and your conversational approach. Congratulations on your explorer; it'a a beautiful watch. I have an sbdc115 (spb155) and a Hamilton Khaki Field automatic which i wear on a Forstner Klip bracelet, and they scratch the Explorer itch for me; I'm not sure I could ever bring myself to spend that much on one watch, but I certainly understand why people love Rolex. Please keep producing excellent videos!

[@TheWatchFrame]

Thanks a lot for your words. The watches you mention are simply great. I haven't tried the SBP155 but I had it on my short list while looking for the Alpinist. As a matter of fact it's still tempting me every time a see it. The Hamilton is awesome too. Should I have bought the 38mm I have the firm conviction my story would have been very different. I too believe that spending the huge amount of money the Explorer does is something a bit too much. For me at least. At the end of they day any of the watches you mention are great all rounders with their very own merit. More than that, anybody should be more than happy to have them and bond with them. For me the Explorer has been something almost accidental for many reasons. Everything aligned and has been a travel of discovery. Now I can certainly say that the itch scratchers we find along the way, are sometimes, the best of options. Nevertheless the Explorer is just another, although expensive one, of those watches. Wear your watches in good health!

[@KeithBeacham]

Very good video. I particularly loved the variety of affordable alternatives featured.

[@TheWatchFrame]

Thanks. You see, there are great solid affordable alternatives and from my experience, some carry very much the same spirit as the icon. I mean, there's no real need to go for the Explorer unless you can, of course.

[@gerrylindley7874]

What an extremely thoughtful, considerate yet eleoquent video regarding your journey. This is much like mine, starting with the same Rolex.

[@TheWatchFrame]

Thanks for your comment. It's a great watch indeed. Good to see you started with the same one!

[@johnmuthan286]

Happy for you that you achieved your goal. On my side I know I will not buy the Rolex. I just bought 2 SanMartin, the explorer homage and the bb36 guilt homage to pair with a tan leather. May I suggest you look at the Ironwatch RX8003, an homage to the OP explorer from the 50s with the clousdeparis dial, quite an interesting alternative too.

[@hootonhoot]

Wearing the Ironwatch that you referenced on a distressed stitched leather strap and love it!! Reminds me of those Mt Everest Rolex’s - great call!!

[@johnmuthan286]

@@hootonhoot Thanks :). And yes really get some good vibes with this watch and really impressed with the overall quality of it.

[@TheWatchFrame]

Now I see what you mean. That Ironwatch looks awesome, of course. Great design. I also did check some vintage Rolex references with that iconic display. Very lovely to be able to have one that can be worn in the wild too :)

[@johnmuthan286]

@@TheWatchFrame that's the idea, having the look of it, without having to "baby" them.

[@TheWatchFrame]

@@johnmuthan286 Yes, that's what I did with the 1016 design copy I had and sold and the reason why I would also love to test the San Martin. I had a 62 mas design copy and the quality was excellent.

[@DennisBible]

One more I would love to get your opinion on. I just discovered it myself. The Nivada Super Antarctic. I had never heard of it before.

[@TheWatchFrame]

I didn't know of that one either and is really nice. I have marked to take a better look of that watch. That design with the triangles really sparks something in me. Thanks for letting us know!

[@DennisBible]

@@TheWatchFrame I couldn't resist ordering one, it's due to arrive tomorrow. I'll let you know my impressions.

[@TheWatchFrame]

@@DennisBible awesome, please let me know once you get it!

[@DennisBible]

@@TheWatchFrame it got delivered a day early. My first impressions, very vintage. It looks and feels vintage. It feels like a watch from a bygone era. It wears so good. The only complaint I have is the crown. It's smallish by today's standards. The crown looks fine and goes with the thin case, but is a little harder to screw down than a larger one. I have discovered it's easier if I turn it over and screw it in while holding the watch upside down.

[@TheWatchFrame]

@@DennisBible congratulations. Yes, now I notice in the pictures that the crown is a bit on the smaller side, yet again, I 'd say nothing to worry much about. You exchange that for some comfort. Hope you enjoy that watch. Really is nice. I've been seeing some pictures of it in WatchCrunch and looks better in the wild.

[@johnrb9397]

Wonderful story gracias.

[@TheWatchFrame]

¡Gracias a ti!

[@Leventgursoy11]

This is most beautiful video that I watched within 2 years. Our taste of watches are exactly the same. I followed the same way including I bought omega aqua terra and Tudor bb36 etc. but rolex explorer taste is completely different. However I have one doubt for this piece. New version is not 36 mm and lugs are 19mm and tapered to 14mm so when I tried it seems so small according to my taste. Old version of 36 mm is perfect but the caliber is old and pretty expensive. In fact I have black OP36 but those are not the same watches. Therefore what will be your advice for me? Kind Regards Levent😊

[@TheWatchFrame]

Thanks a lot and great to read this comment. About the size the thing is that at the beginning it was disappointing the 19mm lugs, but after finding a couple of nice leather straps and NATOs and a couple of heavy duty spring bars I bent I have been able to change straps which was one of my concerns. To me the bracelet is grea, by far the most comfortable thing I have ever worn and the proportions spot on considering the rest of the watch. The only thing is that this watch is less "toolish" looking and more elegant or refined while still a very capable watch with a great movement and designed, as all Rolex, to last a few lifetimes. This said I have very limited experience with the older references but still I feel they are great. The 20mm wide bracelet is a plus, but on the other side those bracelets are on the lighter side and without the quick easy link adjust. However I believe that if you prefer that one, the 114270 should be a great option with still a very solid an reliable movement. I have a couple of friend from this channel with that watch and both are delighted. I know this is not of much help, but if you prefer the proportions of the 114270, considering that prices have been falling a bit, maybe you could find a great deal. But once you get used to the way the 124270 is, I believe its peculiarities end up growing on people.

[@Leventgursoy11]

@TheWatchFrame Many thanks for your detailed explanation at this Friday night. It was greatly appreciated. Kind Regards Levent

[@TheWatchFrame]

@@Leventgursoy11 Thanks! It was my pleasure :)

[@milianriedel]

New Farer Discovery Black Velvet 36mm is so close, but only 50m water resistance 😭

[@TheWatchFrame]

Yes, that is true. But the watch is beautiful nevertheless :)

[@davidconnelly]

Great video. May I ask where you're from? You've got a great accent.

[@TheWatchFrame]

Thanks. I'm from Spain but I recognize I need to have more practice with my English.

[@oliviersebastian1516]

The pagani watches are so nice❤

[@garricksummers8081]

EXCELLENT video!!! I totally enjoyed. I an on the same journey. Thank you for the inspiration.

[@TheWatchFrame]

Thanks! You are most welcome.

[@lukaspisek1050]

Nice story … 👍😊

[@marvean2519]

I went for the baby alpinist for the 1016 vibe.

[@TheWatchFrame]

Great option. I like this one a lot.

[@marvean2519]

@@TheWatchFrame I also have a BB36, it's a great alternative but there isn't much resemblance with the 1016.

[@clemdurand]

I loved your video! I am the same journey and hope I will get to a happy conclusion as well :)

[@TheWatchFrame]

Sure, just hang out there and enjoy any watch that you might try meanwhile. That is more important than what I thought at the beginning.

[@BronxBombers024]

Check out the Vaer A3 Tradition!

[@TheWatchFrame]

Yes, I saw it a few weeks ago. Really nice.

[@BronxBombers024]

@@TheWatchFrame Vaer just released a Swiss Made version of the Tradition the A7 with white print. Looks amazing!

[@TheWatchFrame]

@@BronxBombers024 thanks for the information! Looks awesome: www.vaerwatches.com/products/a7-tradition-swiss-made-auto-36mm

[@albertonovelli9850]

Bellissimo. Grazie

[@TheWatchFrame]

Grazie!

[@heathwoodruff6975]

So, after the full journey, if you had to sell your 124270 and downgrade to one watch that gives or gave you the most joy to wear, which one would it be?

[@TheWatchFrame]

Hmmm hard to pic one. Probably all of them would do the trick. I'm thinking of the Traska and probably the Alpinist. I've had the Traska for longer time, but probably would go for the black version as is more versatile. On that regard the dark green of the Alpinist is versatile enough as to be the only one to have for most purposes.

[@Sehnull]

Hi Mario, again a very nice Video with good thoughts at the end! Saludos!!!

[@TheWatchFrame]

Yes, and thanks to you for letting me try the SARB017. That as brought me a new perspective to help me appreciate the family of exploring watches. Danke!

[@yusufbest4475]

Your videos are too good.. made me buy the lorier falcon 3 which really suits my taste.. I think that should be it.. my one watch collection

[@TheWatchFrame]

Wow, I was really tempted by the Falcon III but had to get the Neptune IV first. I'm looking forward having more news about the Falcon. Seems to me like an awesome option. I hope to maybe get it second hand in the future. Would make a great comparison with other similar watches.

[@albertonovelli9850]

Nel tuo percorso come hai considerato il Lorier Falcon? Come lo valuti rispetto a Traska?

[@TheWatchFrame]

Bella questione. La verità è che ho valutato molto recentemente il Lorier Falcon III e penso che sia una scelta quasi ideale. Tuttavia, sono preoccupato per il "lume" della lancetta delle ore, che è molto debole, come ho riscontrato con il Lorier Neptune IV. Rispetto al Traska Summiteer, lo considero oggi la scelta migliore semplicemente per la sua robustezza: vetro zaffiro e cassa in acciaio antigraffio. Penso che il Lorier sia una versione più classica e vintage rispetto al Traska, che è un'interpretazione più moderna e orientata a usi più rischiosi. In ogni caso, mi piacerebbe provare il Lorier un giorno. Penso che sia un'ottima proposta. Tradotto con www.DeepL.com/Translator (versione gratuita)

[@albertonovelli9850]

@@TheWatchFrame concordo. Anche le dimensioni sono diverse ed il Traska mi sembra più adatto ad un polso come il mio (18cm). Il Lorier forse ha un fascino vintage in più. Mi è piaciuta molto la tua riflessione sul tempo e sul significato di un orologio. Alla fine dimentichiamo che un orologio deve piacerci ed emozionarci al di là del costo e del valore. Grazie della risposta in italiano

[@TheWatchFrame]

@@albertonovelli9850 Grazie per il commento. Vorrei poter parlare italiano senza l'aiuto di traduttori, perché amo l'Italia. Per quanto riguarda la Lorier, sì, è più vintage ed è per questo che mi piace e attira così tanto l'attenzione. Penso che sia bella, ma la Traska è più pratica. In ogni caso, non penso che la Lorier sia una cattiva opzione, solo qualcosa di diverso e capisco perfettamente che sia la migliore opzione per molte persone. Se non avessi il Traska, probabilmente prenderei il Lorier a quel prezzo. Ora che ho avuto l'Explorer per un po' e non è più il mio preferito, e potrei venderlo, apprezzo il Summiteer e gli orologi più accessibili che sono più orientati alla praticità in caso di viaggi e avventure.

[@albertonovelli9850]

Acquistato. Midnight blue 36. Bellissimo. Piacevole da indossare e con una sua anima e personalità. Dimensioni perfette anche per un polso da 18 cm. Un dispiacere toglierlo. Grazie

[@TheWatchFrame]

@@albertonovelli9850 Sono contento! Divertitevi. È un ottimo orologio.

[@TheSamNoel]

Always feel like i can relate to your videos. Excellent video, and wonderful list of alternatives. The one that is "scratching the itch" for me is my Lorier Falcon II. 36mm and a nice "true homage". That said, if it were to ever line up for me to get the 36mm explorer, would be hard to say no. Cheers 🥂

[@TheWatchFrame]

Lorier has some impressive watches indeed. I love them.

[@webbezzy]

Now it’s time for the Explorer II 😅

[@TheWatchFrame]

As much as I like the Exploer II 16570, given the prices I'm right now moving a bit away from luxury watches. I'm coming to realize how expensive these things are in the long run. Great watch but for the moment I will focus on more affordable alternatives. Thanks for commenting!

[@webbezzy]

@@TheWatchFrame I completely understand. Keep up the good work.

[@pavelrazamazov2672]

Nivada Antarctic is a good alternative.

[@TheWatchFrame]

Yes, hope to try one in the future.

[@theoptimistictraveler3558]

Who is the woman @7:14?

[@TheWatchFrame]

That's from a stock video by envato elements.

[@biniamtekle5911]

Absolutely amazing video please don't ever stop, I currently own the Explorer 114270,it is an amazing watch

[@TheWatchFrame]

Thanks! Yes, the 114270 is a great watch indeed. I have very limited experience with that one, but it was the one I was preparing to get when I got the offer of the 124270.

[@johnsinclair2672]

Haha, doesn’t this sum up the madness of watch interest/collecting!

[@mariumrajah]

The truth is any one of them watch’s would have done your missions

[@TheWatchFrame]

Totally so!

[@johnsinclair2672]

The modern explorer is now a gaudy shiny take on the modern dress watch - horrid.

[@garyjohn1956]

I’m actually having this same conversation with myself right now. I even wrote to Christopher Ward (big fan of them and own a CW now) asking them to make a dial like the Explorer. They said they’d pass this along. Just can’t justify this price right now. Great video!

[@TheWatchFrame]

Thanks. I think that with the 36mm Sealander they feel they have it covered and making one with a 3, 6, 9 might be a bit too much but you never know!

[@biaw78]

you have so much misunderstanding on timefactors smith and rolex

[@TheWatchFrame]

I do not.

[@CFCseventy]

Very good review 👍