The Falcon and The Winter Soldier - Episode 2 Angry Review

[@Archy871]

"...because If Steve was wrong about giving you that shield then that means he was wrong about ME"- Bucky. So damn deep man. More or less, Cap's entire story arc was about saving Bucky. First from hydra, then from the Avengers whom signed the accords. That is an incredible weight resting on Bucky's shoulders now.

[@deshunsmith2580]

That was a really great seen.

[@GSBroker]

@@deshunsmith2580 scene

[@ODBleach]

No it wasn't. It was him going from lawful good to chaotic good. Going from a naive hero who blindingly followed orders, to bdisillusionment and doing what's right, whether it's considered criminal or not. He was Tony's foil

[@deshunsmith2580]

@@GSBroker yes thank you

[@Chris-vz7en]

Bucky should chill out. Maybe Falcon just gave away the shield because it was f*ckin' tacky.

[@mephistoknackerman1406]

If super soldiers were bullet proof, Steve Rogers would not need to hide behind his shield when he was getting shot at.

[@goldfishprime]

And he wouldn't bleed from getting punched.

[@batman-qw1gf]

who said all super soldiers got the same serum

[@mephistoknackerman1406]

@@batman-qw1gf No one, but Bucky seems to be assuming that is the case when he tells Isiah about there being more people 'like us' out there. As fall as I recall though, the version of the serum the Power Broker uses doesn't make you bullet proof, but it does make you extremely addicted to it.

[@arkhtyi9456]

I don't think it was even established in the original comics(which tend to have higher power levels) that Captain America was bullet proof. In fact, it was more like "He's super and all, but he's still vulnerable to a bullet". One of his costumes were even covered with bullet proof scales, which further highlights this attribute.

[@donamameng]

cap was definitely not bulletproof in the civil war comics

[@TheMetalBeatle92]

It was Liam Neeson who sent that text to the Flag Smashers leader lol

[@georgehernandez2156]

Stfu thats hilarious lol. ... nice one

[@zakaryperrin7126]

Now I hope that’s true

[@GameChronicles]

The only acceptable response to that text is "new phone...who dis?"

[@haroldlua9735]

It is Walker, I think he is the villain all along.

[@XMVario]

@@haroldlua9735 yeah it’s really obvious who it is. Surprised so many people think he’s a good guy.

[@metalmilitia89]

Sebastian's acting is actually pretty good.

[@DrWho2008t101]

Interesting

[@MrEJ000]

@@cantloop9589 it's black widow.... That's what she does best

[@TonyInnovationall]

@@cantloop9589 it wasn’t just her

[@InkWarrior]

You mean Luke Skywalker.

[@CesarDaSalad]

@@cantloop9589 She's a super soldier. They literally established that in this episode.

[@themilkman5004]

Man the best thing about this episode for me was Isaiah Bradley showing up. He was honestly the last Captain America character I expected to show up

[@moxyblackfiddler]

I called it when I heard about a casting of a young actor. We're going to have Patriot of the Young Avengers

[@raok]

@@moxyblackfiddler They announced the casting for Elijah Bradley?

[@jdawg13289]

@@raok the kid that answered the door was credited as Elijah.

[@berto0757]

thats was soo awesome to see him

[@moxyblackfiddler]

@@raok it was a rumored casting that popped up a month or so ago. Many thought it would be Elijah.

[@ssm100]

They did "write it better." They made it very clear Walker was not going after the smashers. He was following Falcon. None of them knew what they were going up against.

[@tommim4353]

Exactly, thank you

[@Belzebub1978]

Exactly and the other truck didnt give a warning because it was a trap. They wanted them to enter the first truck

[@ssm100]

@@Belzebub1978 bingo!

[@marssamuelzacarias8375]

That Black Falcon joke with the kid is hilarious af

[@crf122]

Or the “white panther” line

[@Ronin-kk4bt]

That was hilarious 🤣🤣

[@harundoener]

I kinda also liked it, because he pretty much said that color is not important but the hero itself. I liked that a lot.

[@chrisday4041]

No

[@lucahrvatin6466]

@@chrisday4041 Yes

[@reyhernandez1958]

"How you know about Gandalf?" "I read The Hobbit when it first came out in 1938." 😂😂😂😂😂

[@seponsacoolya]

Dont dare cite the old Magic’s to me witch, I was there when it was written

[@demtingz2692]

how is this funny? it didnt make me laugh when he said it

[@aliquidgaming1068]

@@demtingz2692 if a joke has to be explained that doesn't resonate with you, then explaining it won't help. People have different senses of humor. Some of us have a darker sense of humor. Others don't and are repulsed by dark. humor. Britain is known for dry humor that isn't too appealing to the US here in the Americas.

[@demtingz2692]

@@aliquidgaming1068 lmao i just want to know the reason behind why you think it's funny as it's just a simple lame joke it's a simple sentence in fact not even a joke ,im just curious ,i mean no harm

[@aliquidgaming1068]

@@demtingz2692 I didn't. It wasn't funny to me but I see the humor behind it. Everyone has different tastes. The hobbit is known for being among the top books that sold out within like 2 or 3 days of the time it released and wasn't available till the following year. The joke implies Bucky is a mega Tolkein nerd. Also the Hobbit and Lord of the Rings books were written from Tolkeins perspective on PTSD and War. The hobbit was a parallel of a man wanting to live a comfortable life but destiny/life won't allow for it till his part in the all consuming war for middle earth is done. Bucky is the same way. He was a soldier, captured, then rescued by his best friend. Then died, brought back to life, brainwashed, made to be a trained elite killer, and is essentially like Steve in that he needs a war to be in or out war to be happening other wise he has no purpose. He also has been denied a release. He died and wasn't allowed to rest. He was in wakanda and had to go straight back into a war after recovering. Loses his best friend. Is a man displaced in time like Cap was. The joke is be relates to the Hobbit. Buckys journey is like that of the one told in the Hobbit. Also this means Bucky had to have been waiting in line for hours to hopefully get a copy of the hobbit

[@TheSavion123]

Alex is the guy you think isn’t listening so you call on him to see and he gets everything right then goes back to looking clueless

[@ChaoSTrophicS]

STONKS

[@juice6521]

It almost felt like Joe wasn't paying attention to the episode, he missed so many obvious plot points.

[@TheSavion123]

Joe was not paying attention but when he asked Alex to describe something it looked like Alex wasn’t listening but then explained it perfectly

[@stoned_666]

John Walker: *Exists* Everyone: *Yo, that's the old man from UP*

[@patrickpitargue1569]

That's the first thing I thought when I saw his first appearance

[@TheBlackKakashi]

You're damn right

[@ithiriafalls]

Yep me too. That or the new Cap'n A got all his teeth knocked out by the new Red Skull. He came out smiling like he just had a helpin of some good mashed taters.

[@deathsnitemaresinfullust2269]

Haa!👍

[@Mrsmith2002]

Overlord aswell

[@OrionInSpace]

Anthony Mackie continues to prove that he's an amazing actor man that guy is a awesome! I am so glad he's getting time to shine as this character!

[@Jose-se9pu]

Surprised to see he can actually be a leading man.

[@alvaneron7176]

Not sure about that, at least variety as he always plays some cocky dude. Fits for this role though

[@OrionInSpace]

@@Jose-se9pu hey man you give him the right role he'll play it well

[@OrionInSpace]

@@alvaneron7176 I mean hey that's fine we can disagree on that

[@donjames5761]

ya after that beat down by Eminem he licked his wounds and stepped up to something greater

[@zanemooz]

I think the driver didn't react to Bucky jumping in the truck because it was a trap. I don't know how they knew Bucky and Sam were coming, but I think that is why Karli walked out from behind the boxes looking like she was expecting someone. I also think it is the reason she smiled at Bucky before she attacked him, kind of like a "Ha! I gotcha!" moment.

[@kcoppa]

Exactly

[@thetruthseeker23]

Spot on Zane. And why would they fear anyone? They’re super soldiers.

[@whateverisavailabley]

Probably heard them bickering in the warehouse

[@Xharaly]

They heard them in the werehouse.

[@folcotook3049]

And while it isn't immediately apparent in the episode, they do react to Bucky opening the truck. When he's kicked out and lands on the other truck's windshield, there are already 2 waiting to grab him on the top of the truck.

[@Chamber7891]

The Falcon and Bucky each know Captain America at different time periods and one thinks there connection to him is more important or impactful than the other.

[@sirrparker47]

Captain America was the mutual friend that had to be there at all the hangouts or it would be awkward

[@nont18411]

A somehow the one who affects Steve’s worldview and personality the most is neither of these two. It’s Tony Stark.

[@Nvalluri2]

True

[@amiradicoolisa8407]

You forget the fact that Bucky is Acknowledging the fact that Steve Roger's saw Falcon as an successor. That's why he's upset about the shield etc. "He chose you, if he was wrong about you....does that mean he was wrong about me..?"

[@ssm100]

That's not the issue. The issue, as stated by others, is Bucky needs Sam to live up to Steve's opinion of him.

[@blackmagician7645]

The therapist made the break through with Sam and Bucky's bond. Can't really force it beyond that.

[@EPICJ0HN]

Steve rodgers capt america used guns in the first super soldier. great shot of him busting through a door with the commandos shooting

[@SolitaryLark]

That was war though. Caps more effective with just the shield later on anyway. But good point.

[@palsada1166]

@@SolitaryLark it was Steve's first mission, and this is John's first mission. The need the gun until they are more effective with the shield.

[@sobr4986]

@@palsada1166 John will likely always carry. It wasn't just something he brought, his suit has a holster and he was packing in his introduction scene. Its an important part of the difference in what he & Steve feel Cap stands for

[@palsada1166]

@@sobr4986 I get the subtle feeling that Captain Walker will not be cap long enough to evolve his fighting style.

[@sobr4986]

@@palsada1166 For sure. He'll deny the shield and be "US Agent" (a title the Govt gives him to save face) at minimum in Ep 6, maybe before. My personal belief - by end of the next episode the Flagsmashers are going to kill that girl we saw him with at the beginning of this one (or release all his personal info online and other rando badguys do it, which is basically what happens in comics) and he's going to start slaughtering people he goes up against in reaction. That's basically what happens in comics, and what triggers him going "mad." That would give Ep 4 of a crazied US Agent, ep 5 of Falcon/Buck having to do with him, then ep 6 dealing with the longterm ramifications and future

[@Inspectornills]

Joe, the people chasing the Flag Smashers was mentioned by the young girl, their called the Power Brokers. The organization Power Brokers is actually just one guy in the comics called The Power Broker. He gave people superpowers for a price. The most well known client of The Power Broker in the comics is John Walker a.k.a. nu-Captain America. Flag Smashers probably stole or didn't pay enough for the super solider powers and are now being chased by the MCU Power Brokers. Its a good bet that MCU John Walker might also have contact with the Power Brokers.

[@SolitaryLark]

I feel like maybe later he’ll get the serum from the power broker.

[@X-Bones]

Weren’t these the same people from Jessica Jones? I heard somewhere that the scientist guy in that show was a power broker in the comics.

[@sobr4986]

@@SolitaryLark May even already have it. Theres a few scenes which could he indicate he's enhanced. He's not trying to advertise it obviously, and the show is keeping it murky, but it's possible

[@SolitaryLark]

@@sobr4986 maybe but he got man handled by those guys. Tossed like a toddler.

[@sobr4986]

@@SolitaryLark Yeah. Only really in the end though, after everyone else had been removed from the trucks Because the thing is, in the comics Walker stages events to try and boost his rep. It just seemed odd to me he was more than capable up until there was no one left to see him fighting, then he quickly gets tossed off the truck himself. There may be some acting going on from him. But I also question the Government motives with Falcon (I think they could be trying to get him killed/bring him down) and feel the end of the fight may have been a "well, Sam is gone, no need to keep this going anymore" situation

[@daviddoughty4516]

I kinda think bucky is under a no kill order.... he's not caring weapons, knives or bombs... falcon not using his sidearms.... something is up...

[@Kaiwalski]

Yeah they said that was the condition for his pardon

[@incogniftoar3943]

He needs to make amends

[@thisiskindacrap13]

Rule 2, no casualties

[@daviddoughty4516]

I wonder when he will take the gloves off...the bad guys have a lot of guns 🔫🤔

[@MaxPaynefan1]

@@TinyMonkeyBrain he shot at bucky in winter soldier and at at man with his uzis

[@StreetSoccerInt]

The guy chasing the Flag Smashers is the Powerbroker, it was mentioned by one of the group quickly. Another enjoyable episode, definitely cut a little quickly in places, could easily have passed 60 minutes comfortably and only enhance the episode in places, like the first fight scene with Bucky jumping onto the truck and almost being ignored. The scenes with Isaiah and the therapist too.

[@socraticmethod-man9808]

Yep, it's the Powerbroker, hopefully they show some of the more interesting powers he has handed out in the comics as well, instead of him giving everyone super strength.

[@cementbox4430]

I’m curious why AngryJoe didn’t know that unless he just forgot.

[@pakmanx8409]

exactly and i dont think Joe knows this but the Powerbrooker gives Johnny Walker Super strenght , idk if he has it yet but he does have control over his shield which was EXTREMLY difficult for him Even going as far as Learning the shield technique from Taskmaster , so i can only assume from the way he fights that yea he might of secretly been augmented by the powerbrooker .....im thinking the powerbrooker was hired to give the power to Walker and was betrayed ..... seriously johnny walker has a pretty bad ass character in the comics

[@insertnamehere2746]

Honestly the truck thing is completely excusable because the hell would you have to honk your horn when you have walktie talkies and subtly tell your men to get in position? Obviously these flag smashers have done this shit before so they'll highly organized and efficient

[@Wildguns76]

we found a woke one here people, patetic.

[@Neekoolos]

Falcon is a contract worker for the government. Once his contract is over he can do what he wants. PS. *Sebastian needs to do a Luke Skywalker Disney+ show!!!!"* and hopefully it retcons the new movies. Maybe new cap didn't know they were super soldiers?

[@Tabootrinket]

or maybe... (I mean the government experimented on Izaiah since the 50s and they don't seem interested in him anymore)

[@f1jones544]

Totally agree with you re: Skywalker. I'm not typically drawn into casting frenzies, but I've grown up with Luke since 1977 . Mark Hamilton is Luke. But it's a compliment to Stan even in the limited capacity he's been used as an actor so far in MCU that I see everything he needs to pull it off, in addition to just his uncanny resemblance. Plus he's the perfect age. I'm sure Mark would bless it (maybe even consult?). Do it, Disney!

[@zoegara7793]

I love Luke Skywalker. His series are wanted.

[@Lightguardian_HOH]

Not until Disney stops their Woke bs affecting Star Wars.

[@Neekoolos]

@@Lightguardian_HOH I wouldn't blame Disney(they do Marvel fine) It's all Kathleen Kennedy who ruined the new movies...

[@wakeangel2001]

I kind of thought it was a whole thing that they were never able to properly recreate the super soldier serum. They accidentally created Abomination when they tried to use it on a guy in the Hulk movie, and in the Agent Carter miniseries they brought up how the last vial of Cap's blood was a whole maguffin. The fact that we had a black supersoldier in the 50's and now there are 8 of them running around leads me to wonder how the hell they pulled that off, there HAS to be some kind of downside to this bootleg serum or why wouldn't everyone be using it? I remember in X-Men evolution (the cartoon) when Wolverine was reminiscing about a mission he ran with Captain America back during WW2 he said there was a flaw in the super soldier serum, it caused cell degradation when regular humans used it, and only mutants (like Magneto in that episode) could live with it. I'd want to say that could be what the super soldiers are dealing with, but that black guy must be AT LEAST in his 90's and he doesn't look THAT old, so I am looking forward to finding out what the down side to the serum is.

[@louis8487]

I actually kind of liked Walker. The "stay out of my way" was lame as fuck seeing as he was talking to people who fought Thanos but other than that it seems like he's a decent guy trying to fill shoes that are way to big for him.

[@bobhotpocket1875]

What??? That's was such a badass scene. That was the moment I could easily see them attacking each other.

[@deathsdoor07]

@@bobhotpocket1875 Then he would get his ass handed to him by Bucky since he can easily catch the shield and he's a super soldier.

[@matthewbrack2794]

@@bobhotpocket1875 it would be if he was comparable to Bucky or falcon but in reality walker is just a regular dude, he’d get his ass handed it him easily

[@leovanilla6833]

He has tried to cooperate with them the entire episode but Bucky and Sam continue to bicker amongst themselves and Walker. Why would Walker want them around if all they're going to do is act unhelpful to everyone around them? I think that line fits perfecr given the scenario. Just because you were a hero before doesn't excuse your actions and attitude now. Walker has a job to do and he's going to do it with or without the help of 2 men who don't have their shiz together.

[@louis8487]

I didn’t think it was lame because they didn’t deserve him saying it, I thought it was lame because they’ve faced way way worst than him and came out just fine so his threat was empty.

[@jchilds9701]

They were following Falcon, hopefully to recruit him, but they were not expecting a mission, so no guns besides the standard issue.

[@nashbone7987]

Since when is a 1911 standard issue? Lol

[@ithinkihadeight]

@@nashbone7987 Steve carried and used a 1911 in his first movie, and Cap carried a 1911 in the comics for a while as well. If NuCap needs a backup to the shield an American made single stack .45 is more appropriate than a Glock.

[@metallicnole4514]

Doesn't falcon carry 2 automatic pistols or uzis at his side?

[@shakibahmed6044]

@@metallicnole4514 he said they weren't assassins, so he probably didn't wanna use em against unarmed, albeit super strong, combatants

[@jchilds9701]

@@nashbone7987 standard issue for the character. He is not a regular soldier anymore. pretty sure he gets whatever weapon besides the shield he wants.

[@georgehernandez2156]

I thought it was dumb that the flag smasher ran into the bullets. You would think he would find a better way to distract them lol

[@lalo-kt4te]

They probably thought he was bulletproof since they are super soldiers, but maybe he was the only soldier who wasn't a super soldier.

[@habijjj]

@@lalo-kt4te @@lalo-kt4te luke cage is bullet proof super soldiers are not they're extremely durable and heal quickly cap has been seen cut and bleeding multiple times i.e every captain america movie and endgame.

[@deathsdoor07]

It was stupid they had no weapons. I'm surprised he didn't throw the pole.

[@NoArmsSally]

He did. He knocked down an electrical pole to keep them from driving to the plan. They wasted time shooting him, distraction successful!

[@deathsdoor07]

@@NoArmsSally I mean actually throw the pole at them not just knock it down. I was hoping he had a better plan then be a sacrificial lamb.

[@sly2076]

Isiah is definitely coming back to whoop some ass later on. Or he's going to be a mentor to Bucky and Falcon

[@CD-pj5qi]

His grandson becomes a young avenger in the comics too I think

[@m.d.4231]

@@CD-pj5qi yea his grandson is Patriot, leader of the young avengers

[@matthewl2036]

I hope so right now they both need some like Isiah to guide them.

[@robbiesilverwolf]

Ya no one they just showed him for that little scene

[@Revan-eb1wb]

Why should he be a mentor for bicky if bucky is way older than him?

[@falconarrow3428]

So awesome Isaiah Bradly is Canon. If that kid that was with him is his grandson, he's going to be young patriot and lead the young avengers. Very good episode!!

[@jonathanmora8208]

I hope so!

[@jackzionts]

They’re private contractors for the us. That’s why he mentions they’re free agents with no restrictions.

[@mysticwizard1943]

but apparently they don't get paid anything... that part at the bank was so fucking dumb

[@ezekieltete6584]

@@mysticwizard1943 They didn't get paid shit in the avengers. So it wasnt dumb

[@guywholikesgoodmusic]

@@ezekieltete6584 Government contracts = BIG $$$. It's absurd that he wouldn't be paid. How the fuck do they refuel and maintain that C130, or Sam's Falcon suit, etc? It makes zero sense.

[@themonkysuncle]

It’s the way his ears look with the helmet, I get an old man from “UP” vibe .

[@fukun5773]

Also his protruding chin

[@ArthurKnight1899]

It's Casey Neisat head

[@MrBergste]

I like that Bucky and Sam's response and overall demeanor toward the new Cap reflects how we as the audience feel. I also like that they made us feel a little conflicted about the new Cap by actually coloring him in a positive light. It was a really good episode.

[@workingman9019]

JOHN WALKER AND BATTLESTAR ARE SO COOL! I WISH THEY WHERE PERMANENT! I LOVE THEIR DYNAMIC, AND I LOVE HOW HE USES GUNS AND IS KINDA SNARKY! I MEAN HE TRIED TO BE FALCON AND BUCKYS FRIEND, SO I GET WHY HE GETS PISSED AT THEM! FALCON AND BUCKY ARE BEING BABIES! THEY ARE BASICALLY HATING NEW CAP BECAUSE HE'S NOT STEVE! THIS GUY BAILED BUCKY OUT OF JAIL, TRIED TO SAVE THEIR ASS FROM SUPER GINGERS AND THEY STILL SPIT IN HIS FACE! SO IF JOHN TURNS EVIL, I BLAME SAM AND BUCKY! ALSO JOHN IS BETTER THAN STEVE EVER WAS! HE HAS A BETTER WAR RECORD, IS AMAZING WITH THE SHIELD AND HAS NO SUPER SOLDIER POWERS!

[@ingenanimation]

@@workingman9019 you didn't understand nothing from this episode.

[@workingman9019]

@@ingenanimation CARE TO ENLIGHTEN ME? OH WISE COMMENTER.

[@devindalton4688]

@@workingman9019 Not going to comment on much there, but Steve Rogers saved the world multiple times over, once in the employ of the U.S. government. The medal of honor is good, but it's not saving the world good.

[@ingenanimation]

@@workingman9019 1. They are not acting like babies because sam gives the shield to a museum and nothing else . 2. In the comics , sam wilson takes the shield and become the new cap , walker become an agent for the government . 3. Guns ? Really ? Versus multiple super soldiers? Come on . 4. They (new cap and useless friend) seem a little bit evil in fact they ask to sam and bucky to stay away from them .

[@moxyblackfiddler]

I called Isiah Bradley a while back. When the characters that make up the Young Avengers started to show up.

[@workingman9019]

JOHN WALKER AND BATTLESTAR ARE SO COOL! I WISH THEY WHERE PERMANENT! I LOVE THEIR DYNAMIC, AND I LOVE HOW HE USES GUNS AND IS KINDA SNARKY! I MEAN HE TRIED TO BE FALCON AND BUCKYS FRIEND, SO I GET WHY HE GETS PISSED AT THEM! FALCON AND BUCKY ARE BEING BABIES! THEY ARE BASICALLY HATING NEW CAP BECAUSE HE'S NOT STEVE! THIS GUY BAILED BUCKY OUT OF JAIL, TRIED TO SAVE THEIR ASS FROM SUPER GINGERS AND THEY STILL SPIT IN HIS FACE! SO IF JOHN TURNS EVIL, I BLAME SAM AND BUCKY! ALSO JOHN IS BETTER THAN STEVE EVER WAS! HE HAS A BETTER WAR RECORD, IS AMAZING WITH THE SHIELD AND HAS NO SUPER SOLDIER POWERS!

[@thisiskindacrap13]

This show *already* made me love Bucky so much more. Its so sad for him tho.. has nothing left and he's so depressed man :/

[@bradenbrooks5107]

Joe says that therapy scene ended kinda off but that’s exactly how therapy is haha

[@WHITEPERSUAS1ON]

This show is really frustrating to watch. I see what they’re trying to do but like the direction is so weird. They miss points and I keep questioning what they’re doing. SPOILER WARNING The episode started with a scene that felt straight out of Friday night lights, with over the top dramatic acting and unnatural beats Like when the flag smasher dude says “I can buy some time” he just pushes down a light pole and runs into gunfire dying. I didn’t care that he died and I was dumbfounded that he was so moronically stupid. I don’t think they understand the characters. Why would Bucky be like “Only 2 guys, let’s get em!” Dude has been a cold blooded assassin for 100 years, but at least it’s funny writing, right? /s The tension between Bucky and Sam is just not resonating rn I want to like this show SO BAD!!!

[@sethxtekken]

Ad you said, they want to make it "funny". And i find it stupid thay they miss how much legacy and experience bucky has. Its just the style of disney now to make thinga funny and comedy. Its just their style. Like zack snyder movies they are super serious, many didnot like them because they want the Disney "Lightful joyful style". So yeh i get your frustration, thats their style we have to adapt👹

[@WHITEPERSUAS1ON]

@@sethxtekken Episode 3 was MUCH better at this. in case you havent seen it, minor spoilers. Bucky is a badass and you see it. They also make Sharron low key dark as fuck. It all just works in that episode

[@sethxtekken]

@@WHITEPERSUAS1ON 🧨🧨👍🏻👍🏻

[@leterops4262]

I like the captain america back catalogue of characters being used.

[@SozuSozin]

Yes isaiah’s scene was awesome. I wonder if we can see him in the background of civil war?

[@fredrickcosma8942]

@Gungey Entertainment well, he is. More than 1 Cap is in the show in fact. It just isn’t Steve Rodgers

[@sam-fr5tc]

@@fredrickcosma8942 so no cap?

[@berto0757]

isaiah Bradley and patroit cameo was cool to see

[@KeyT3ch]

Bruh Isaiah is THE "Black Captain America" in the comics and that's his grandson, Eliajh Bradley, aka "Patriot" in Young Avengers

[@Drax514]

I thought Joe knew all this comic book shit. Guess not. Didn't even talk about this huge development, like at all.

[@scalpingsnake]

I wonder if they are going a Homelander route with the new Captain America.

[@Brandonv1103]

What's funny is my sister said it would be funny if they did have homelanders actor play the new captain america

[@DG-420]

Kind of but not really

[@SozuSozin]

@@Brandonv1103 bruh that would’ve been perfect too

[@Deathpool_04]

It’s funny since The boys season 3 will have Soldier Boy who is a parody of Captain America and will be a villain. He’s played by Jensen Ackles and he almost got the part for the MCU Steve Rogers.

[@ZBot47]

U.S. Agent.

[@HawkEyeTS]

Just on the bit about Bucky running up on the first truck, for a few seconds I wondered if there was going to be a reaction from the second truck drivers as well, but when you find out the "hostage" was actually another of the super soldiers, it makes a lot more sense. The drivers were probably thinking "Hey, a dude just jumped onto the front truck, should we do something?" "Nah, is in the back, he's gonna be lucky to get out of this alive." And the moment he was thrown onto the back truck and managed to hold on the others did make a move, so I think this is explainable as justified confidence on their part that they didn't NEED to get involved yet.

[@broggie123]

Thought it was a little silly. Thought they did if mainly for the stunt of him hitting the window. Does make sense but you would have thought he would have worked from the truck at the back.

[@broggie123]

Also the car at the end of the fight. Let's drive super close to these trucks lets see what's going on haha

[@HawkEyeTS]

@@broggie123 To reply to both of your comments, the truck in the back didn't have the "hostage" which is what set Bucky running after them right away. And as for the disaster onlooker drivers, that may be the most believable thing in the entire episode. If you've ever driven on the highway where there's been an accident, a huge chunk of the delay is from people slowing down around the accident to see what's going on. So I can 100% believe there was a driver, probably camera phone in one hand, hoping to get the next big viral video, closely following a set of trucks with people fighting on top of them.

[@sirferrell6142]

I appreciate the amount of character development we're getting

[@f1jones544]

These shows are like extended movies with the holes we love to point out largely filled with extra character development and detail. Wandavision is easily in my top five MCU "movies" when viewed as a whole and this show might rank up there too with the way it's going.

[@TheSeriousSentinel]

I think the show should have actually been made 8 episodes because it kind of seems like some of the character development is being rushed.

[@Ronin-kk4bt]

Exactly it’s amazing how strong the character development is

[@tacitus6384]

The Captain American character had been trying the whole episode to be friendly and work with Falcon and Bucky. We see this new Caps *wants* to live up to Steve's legacy, he *wants* to give the world something to look up to. I get why Bucky/Falcon are annoyed at him, but I can see new Caps getting sick of their attitude towards him and just giving up.

[@Dukethunders]

Isaiah Bradley is Carl Lumbly btw. He voiced Martian manhunter on Justice League.

[@luchobo7455]

If you are talking about Zack Snyder's Justice League, it was Harry Lennix who voiced the Martian.

[@Dukethunders]

@@luchobo7455 the animated series lol

[@Dukethunders]

@@TinyMonkeyBrain oh. People watch that show?? Lol

[@Metrion77]

on the good Justice League*

[@alejbr4]

also played the hero mantis in the 90s

[@BowmansWorld]

CAP DIDNT KNOW THE ENEMIES WERE THERE, THEY WERE JUST TRACKING RED WING

[@AndJusticeforAll567]

Also, he didn't know they were ALL super soldiers, right? They only saw evidence from the Prague incident from the one guy. Also, to the point of Bucky running up to the second truck, he was running to where the hostage was...and I'm just gonna assume the driver had confidence since their leader was right in there/they responded very quickly.

[@SozuSozin]

I think it’s a rouse... john walker is behind it

[@deathsdoor07]

Why are you calling HIM Cap?

[@BowmansWorld]

@@deathsdoor07 because he is cap right now. Gtfo of here normie who doesnt read comics. John walker is dope as hell in his storylines

[@deathsdoor07]

@@BowmansWorld As USAgent but not as Cap. There is one Cap like there is one Spider-Man, like there is Thor. I don't care he was called Cap in the comics. Steve Rogers is Cap. It's almost as stupid as calling Jane Thor.

[@DxReaper120]

The therapy scene didn't break apart . As someone that's been to therapy and took it as a joke the first few times that was very realistic. You have. Moments where you just blurt out what you think you don't want to really be there but you are forced to and when it's time to go you cut and run.

[@donnyyasu2764]

I'm curious to see how Zemo plays out since he is going to hate both the heroes and the Flag Smashers

[@noobsavant]

Nope. We'll find out that Zemo is behind the flag smashers

[@donnyyasu2764]

@@noobsavant Zemo killed super soldiers in their sleep because he thinks the world needs less of them though.

[@1_underthesun]

@@noobsavant Agree. After his defeat he probably realized he couldn't go up against superhero's without help.

[@Undertaker606]

@@noobsavant nope wrong, if you want actual spoilers do some looking they aren’t that hard to find 😉

[@noobsavant]

@@donnyyasu2764 He hates the concept of super heros, not supers per says. If he can manipulate supers to do his work, he will.

[@CebolaGeek]

hey Joe! you forgot about the Power Broker, he's the one following the flagsmashers!! Also John Walker is like a "supersoldier from birth", in the comics he receives the serum and it boosts him further up, becoming like a super buff Cap. Also his "mantle" is US Agent, which i guess will eventually appear in the series, probably after Sam becomes cap

[@MarioBario]

Actually... John Walker was super patriot, then Captain America, then U.S. Agent

[@CebolaGeek]

@@MarioBarioyep, but it seems like they decided to jump straight to Cap, since the real cap is already gone and they can't "retrace" those steps

[@Peter-qq3io]

I really don’t think they are handling the racial element very well. Its almost like they are trying too hard to the point that it is getting ridiculous.

[@spaulagain]

Ya the cop scene was absolutely ridiculous. Racial profiling may exist, but it's in completely different contexts. Not two people walking down the road in the middle of the day wearing completely respectable clothing. If Sam and Bucky were actually pushing each other or something like that, then I could see the instigation

[@sethxtekken]

Very stupid scene

[@kristophsams5036]

Are we just going to gloss over the fact Bucky was given a new name in Wakanda that actually applies to his other super hero name? White Wolf? Adopted brother of Black Panther? Sounds like something could be there for that.

[@poppapalpatine8624]

Lol I just thought of Geralt from the witcher

[@ragemonkey117]

Cap has a weaker version of Wolverines healing factor. Hence why he's able to take an energy bolt or a bullet and still keep going.

[@bjornlothbrok3604]

A lot weaker

[@Artistofprocedure]

Not really healing factor just accelerated healing of a human a healing factor makes you heal quick from impossible injuries a super fast rate.

[@ragemonkey117]

@@Artistofprocedure best words i could use to describe it.

[@anonymousdan7205]

John Walker has the accolades & skill on paper...but there’s more to being Captain America & Steve Rogers conveyed it. In The First Avenger he was willing to jump on a live grenade & give his life selflessly, whereas John Walker has done it 4 times using a helmet. That says a lot about the two This is the same thing Steve was referring to when he tells Tony Stark “you’re not the guy to make a sacrifice play, to lay down on a wire and let the other guy crawl over you” to which Tony replies “I think I would just cut the wire.”

[@JonytobiUchiha]

Yep but.... Irom Man became the man that jumped on the grenade to save everyone (snap)

[@anonymousdan7205]

@@JonytobiUchiha Exactly! They managed to pay off that line perfectly years later & have both of their arc’s come full circle in Endgame

[@JonytobiUchiha]

@@anonymousdan7205 Yes! That's why i love the mcu so much. They have build these characters so well.

[@leovanilla6833]

That makes sense but what is so wrong about a mix of both ideologies? Sacrificing WHILE being smart about it. Regardless of how he did it, Walker still put his life in danger by being a soldier. If he had instead said he ran away from a live grenade (like the other soliders do around Steve) then I would get this point but he didn't run. I think that makes him the best of both worlds imo. A soldier who wants to do right but is smart about his actions. Now the real test would be if there was a live grenade and no helmet. But even then you could argue that staying alive to save more lives is the more heroic thing to do. I could go down that rabbit hole all day but you can see how interesting you ccan take the Walker character instead of the face value stuff.

[@anonymousdan7205]

@@leovanilla6833 Absolutely! Thanks for writing & I think you make a great point too, something that I like + appreciate so far about these Disney+ series is how they get to explore these themes more than a 2hr. movie which at times feels more “black & white” whereas as we’ve seen there’s a definite grey area with things like Bucky’s past and now all these characters trying to live up to a certain pedigree either by choice or appointment and it makes for some interesting TV. I’ll admit I hated this new Cap at the end of last episode (which only means the acting & directing was so good) & was pleasantly surprised when the cold open to this one showed a relatable side of John Walker who is self doubting himself before stepping out of that locker room. Then throughout the episode it had me flip flopping between “this guy clearly means well but I understand how he can come across as off putting” to “I think this guy may become unhinged”, so I too hope they explore this theme of heroism in the next few episodes & don’t just go the cliched route of simply using Walker as a template for what not to be while propping Sam up to be the “true heir” to Captain America if that makes any sense...

[@reyproduction4988]

The police scene is the worst case of shoving anti police agenda down our throats. It was random and uncalled for. Would've made better sense if they went directly for bucky cause he has a warrant. But ofcourse Disney gotta throw in "we are anti police. All police are racist . Blah blah blah.".

[@poppapalpatine8624]

Ikr it's even worse in the new episode

[@Zactastical]

Hold up, I thought Star Lord was Kurt Russels son... :)

[@devindalton4688]

;)

[@FutureAlien]

"Who?"

[@WillieSlackmer]

The scene with Bradley , the cops, the bank, and therapy explain to us why Sam does not want the shield.

[@doomslayer4547]

Who's bradley?

[@WillieSlackmer]

@@doomslayer4547 Isaiah Bradley, the old man who kicked them out of his house.

[@bobhotpocket1875]

The scene from the cops felt so forced and was trying so hard to make a political message. Easily one of the worst marvel scenes I have EVER seen.

[@joseguilarte87]

@@bobhotpocket1875 so was the bank scene. I’m supposed to believe that Tony didn’t leave any money for the team?

[@bobhotpocket1875]

@@joseguilarte87 well if I remember correctly. His family was broke as hell and couldn't pay their loans and because of that, she was refused. But his sister wanted to do and get the money by herself without his help. So that makes sense but the cop scene was just fucking horse shit.

[@Tobi-cc5fc]

I really felt the weight behind bucky in that therapy session when he explained why he was so upset over sam giving the shield up. If cap was wrong about sam, the best of them, he could be wrong about bucky, the troubled one

[@smcgilli34]

One thing that stood out twice now in this series is...wind! They open a door on a plane and are still able to talk. Crap...it would be so loud. A little realism would be nice.

[@pjleelo23]

Really enjoying this leather weapon prequel.

[@paulnewton5180]

I gave up on the series when I saw how lame the plot is when Buck ran into the first bus. Even if it was a trap, I think there other intelligent ways that scene can go. Just another cut and paste thing. Well if their audience is 12years old, it make sense for a senseless trap......but they've lost a viewer. I find the review video more interesting lol

[@Raytheus]

Anyone else is reminded of the grandfather from the animated movie "Up" when looking at the new captain America with his helmet on?

[@williamtael8379]

That scene where the policemen are being racist against Sam just for the sake of it was just cringy af.

[@thegreatercornholio8393]

Hush, that scene was so obviously based upon a true story; in the vein of Hugh Laurie's reputed on-the-tube-doctor on misanthropic duty.

[@williamtael8379]

@@thegreatercornholio8393 Sir, you're under arrest for being pink. Put your hands where I can see them.

[@KingOfMadCows]

Episode 1: the new Captain America has a really punchable face. Episode 2: that new Captain America seems like a decent guy.

[@mattsherlock9636]

I still don't like him, I think he is a poser.

[@rsdillbot3646]

As peacemaker would say, a douchshy captain America

[@mattsherlock9636]

@@rsdillbot3646 my biggest fear is that they will sand down Isaiah's origin story. They did a lot worse in the comics than lock him away for 30 years. Mass murder and horrid body mutilation. And it was the government who did it, not hydra or some made up bad guys. And they did it because they saw black people as expendable.

[@mattsherlock9636]

I own a hardcopy of truth, red, white and black so I know a lot about Isaiah. (Still can't believe I found it for ten dollars, they go for thousands online).

[@TheBakerZen]

I thought he was 10x more punchable after episode 2

[@BigDaddy-gl7bl]

Medal of Honor recipients are some of the most honored of military people. It makes Falcon and Bucky look like dueche bags how they treat him. Especially with him being a 3 time recipient.

[@Grilledhotchips]

Bad neighborhoods like that are the most heavily patrolled areas states

[@jockcop4205]

You missed a detail. When the cars come to kill the flag smashers at the airport, they say "Its the power brokers men" The power broker is also mentioned in the background of the credits. Guess we will see who it is later.

[@Graveiity]

The flagsmashers are running from the power broker's men. They mention it before the man sacrifices himself

[@notazerg]

9:00 I think its a callback to when Rogers used a pistol during WW2, his first movie.

[@RagnaR3xa]

It'd be funny if John Walker's dad was a planet.

[@OutsideTheRopes]

So Peter Quill has a brother now? 😆

[@nickgt1880]

😂

[@terryf3282]

Couldn't four man armed squad of SEALS, Delta, Recon Marines or any good soldiers have taken down these Super soldiers rather than four guys and only one is armed with a pistol?

[@bobbyfischer9927]

Cap used a pistol in WW2 Joe.

[@bobhotpocket1875]

Ik he did in the advertisement (when cap did the propaganda ads) he used a gun. But he never really used it in the modern world

[@NoArmsSally]

@@bobhotpocket1875 he killed Nazis with guns once he was with the Howling Commandos. But yeah once he was unfrozen he has only used guns a couple times.

[@dweblinveltz5035]

The therapist is horrible. Period. She wouldn't have a job in real life.

[@KingOfMadCows]

I wonder what kind of authority the new Captain America has. Remember, they were in Germany to capture the Flag Smasher, the new Cap would have to abide by whatever treaties America has with the German government.

[@Polarbearden]

I will not watch winter soldier b/c this does not happen. Disney going more woke and show no proof.

[@JagsP95]

I disagree with the police scene. It's almost like every time a white person shows up with some modicum of power, they have to be seemingly racist to falcon for no reason. It wasn't in the marvel movies and it doesn't need to be here.

[@NoArmsSally]

It's been more covered in the media lately, and thus deserves the attention. It's not an anti-white thing or an anti-cop thing, it's a "fuck racism" thing. Shit happens all the time, especially here in Los Angeles, and back when I lived in Texas and Arizona.

[@judofry]

I work in mental health and the thought of an elderly pissed super solider is terrifying 🤯

[@thebigaristotle3863]

The most frustrating thing about watching joe's reviews is he doesn't take 10 mins to google things about the topics like the power broker or other comic related things to be able to guess where the show is going next like idk that the power broker in the comics gives others super soldier strength for a price and maybe that's why they're chasing the flag smasher cause they may have idk stolen wait for it super soldier serum

[@matthewbrack2794]

Googling lore is not something that should be required to understand a show.

[@f1jones544]

The show has to hold up on its own irrespective of the source material to those of us who don't know it that well. Why Google what we don't know yet instead of trusting the show to tell us a story at its pace?

[@apajpap]

@@matthewbrack2794 you're already at that point with this show if you didn't see any of the previous movies you wouldn't know what was going on

[@hendybs1536]

The logic feel weird.. Why they suddenly abandon the truck/mission (especially falcon since he can fly/or maybe his machine is broke?).. And suddenly they look for another clue(which is not the point since they can just pursue the flag smasher and try to kick them again) , they let the police handle the rest, so flag smasher can take the airplane and just vanished

[@butterflymage5623]

I didn’t see them ass abandoning the mission. I saw it as, ok we can’t contents with a whole team of super soldiers right now. Especially with Bucky purposefully nerfing himself. Not sure why falcon isn’t shooting people anymore though.

[@noobsavant]

Remember the part where Bucky gets on the first trailer and the driver of the 2nd trailer is magically oblivious to what's happening 6 feet in front of him.

[@CD-pj5qi]

@@butterflymage5623 cause all his guns in his drone and they destroyed it during the episode

[@jchilds9701]

8 super soldiers and no redwing to track them, ya let that one go.

[@hendybs1536]

@@butterflymage5623 falcon just mass shoot the villain from episode 1(yes he tried to punch the bad guy as well but he destroy the helicopter) ..and in ep2 he just bare handed.. At least the new captain america try using gun(which is make sense if they consider flag smasher as terrorists threat)...and lateral I appreciate the police, they much smarter coz they rapid shoot the goon from flag smasher without warn.

[@ReMixMasterMike15]

I didn’t find this Captain America all that bad.

[@Talos_The_King]

Too early to tell.

[@brifo3394]

Yeah feel like he's gonna get manipulated by the government and it will make him out of control.

[@Fallenpack]

Me either, but if they base his character off the comic book depiction, John Walker has a lot of issues.

[@havehope]

And he is the son of Snake Plissken aka Kurt Russell. 😎

[@ReMixMasterMike15]

I’m not saying nothing will happen to John Walker. I’m just saying he was better than I expected.

[@thepiratepeteshow2684]

With Bucky jumping to the second truck was to rescue the girl. Now I thought why didn't the other truck react, but when we found out she was a super soldier they didn't need to react, so I was ok with that after

[@nateputerbaugh5709]

Bucky and Sam are officially the new Riggs and Murtaugh

[@arkhtyi9456]

The thing about Sam and Bucky being free agents is that they're more like contractors of the DOD, not directly under them. Which means, yes, they still have to follow some rules(It doesn't make them just okay crossing borders with military equipment), but they don't have to work under stricter rules. It doesn't make a contradiction between the Ep1 scene and the last scene of Ep2

[@75Andreos]

awesome episode and review. and i passed my road test today. all around awesome day

[@Fallenpack]

Congrats on passing your road test!

[@75Andreos]

@@Fallenpack thank you!

[@LegalSenpai]

Congrats! Great job passing your road test! And now have a great weekend!!!!

[@volcanoeater]

I hate the action scene No way a thin inexperienced young girl could beat winter soldier; nor winter soldier can so easily be immobilized by inexperienced soldiers, with or without super soldier serum Super soldier Serum enhances raw strenght, but you still need raw muscle power. That young girl looks THIN, no way there are power behind her

[@emilioyam]

I mean u don’t know if there inexperienced, they were around when thanos snapped

[@drksideofthewal]

We don’t know what kind of modern super soldier serum is powering them. Also, Bucky isn’t exactly at his best, dealing with all that PTSD, not wanting to hurt people, particularly a woman.

[@jaypeezulieta2146]

@@cantloop9589Bucky, is trying to abide to rule no. 2

[@volcanoeater]

@@drksideofthewal The scientist did say he was extracting from previous serum, so I guess it is not new kinda of serum

[@OutsideTheRopes]

Joe still cutting Alex off. Shit is annoying.

[@drewjemerigbe]

Glad im not the only one that is annoyed by that shit. I like each other opinions equally, but Alex's point of view most closely reflects my own.

[@OutsideTheRopes]

@@drewjemerigbe Same here. I mostly agree with Alex and I hate when he’s trying to finish a point and he constantly gets cut off by Joe. That’s one of the most basic things you learn as a child. Don’t cut somebody off while they’re speaking.

[@Spartan-bl4pq]

i don’t like the race motives there trying to show a marvel tv show isnt the place for that

[@lukecoyi1784]

Agreed, It’s so cringe and unnecessary

[@Spartan-bl4pq]

@@lukecoyi1784 like as a white male i’m offended that this day in age people hate on straight white males just because now

[@policis]

this "new" cap looks fine without helmet. even original cap looks like shit with helmet.

[@CousinCreepy]

When Bucky took over for Cap in the comics he had guns. Both him and Falcon carried the shield and became Captain America for a while.

[@ZackTheThunderking]

please review the invincible animated series

[@charlesyoung7272]

A much better show at the moment

[@simmiewilliams5970]

Isaiah Bradley is actor Carl Lumbly, he was “Mantis” the second Black super hero created for TV. The first was Bill Cosby’s “Brown Hornet” he was animated and created for little kids...but he was still a first for TV. That doesn’t sound like a big deal today, but it was cool to see back in the 1970’s.

[@Stormhawk777]

Please talk ABOUT the show more instead of just running through the bullet points of the episode

[@GoalieOfUnholy]

@ 21:14, Why would the driver honk? They knew he was coming. It was a trap, remember? She was pretending to be a hostage. They wanted him to board that truck..

[@gatewayrealtor664]

fun fact : captain America used a pistol in the captain America : first avenger movie (ww2 montage scene)

[@delta22ization]

while someone shouts "don't look at the camera"

[@DrViperVideos]

Why can the new cap throw the shield so good? Was the footage faked?

[@ProfessorSpade]

Review Invincible on Amazon prime

[@seanpeters6126]

I feel like the dialogue was relying heavily on humor which it didn’t deliver for me. Also I don’t understand why Bucky and Sam antagonize each other. Never actually made sense why they have this feud. I could understand in civil war but with Steve gone any hostility is pointless

[@blackfox1320]

Agreed, the writing is piss poor. Their feud makes no sense, if anything with their back story they would be friends. Also, what Baltimore cop stops people arguing in daylight. The woke crowd has some truly cringeworthy scenes in this show.

[@seanpeters6126]

@@blackfox1320 I always hate how these scenes are done in current media. It’s always completely obvious and pandering while only using stereotypes to generalize the black community. It’s pretty much in every show now and I can’t stand it. These cops went to a predominantly black neighborhood and just happened to stop in the streets to target a black man. Also the percentage of black cops is higher than the percentage of black people in America yet it’s only ever two white cops pulling black men over. They never use logic and it shows.

[@BowmansWorld]

The truck does do something thats why there are people waiting for bucky up top

[@5h0wmanX]

On top of which, the lack of reaction from the drivers means they’re like, “don’t worry, he’s about to run into Karli.” It’s what made me go, “HANG ON a second, why are they not freaking out.” Great subtle foreshadowing

[@mikelaggeson2605]

@@5h0wmanX glad somebody else caught that lol, when I saw the scene I was like, Bruh this doesn’t make sense and then the “hostage” was acting weird and I realized that there’s a reason there’s no signs of worry from the other driver or the rest of the crew. And then it happened, BAM! Bucky was completely caught off guard lmao, also I disagree with Joe when he says that Sam Walker isn’t enhanced because of what we see in the flashback when he was training with the shield and that he got thrown off a truck and smashed into a car. There’s definitely something up with him and I know it sounds far off but perhaps he is a descendant of Cap, maybe one of his grandchildren, or he was unknowingly enhanced by the US government.

[@rwicks1746]

Super Soldiers are not supposed to be bulletproof in the comics, to my knowledge Steve Rogers is killed by a gun shot the comics. Great review guys! Can't wait for next week's episode.

[@FuzzDuckProductions]

Excited where the show is going so far.

[@rugsamillion5904]

Racism part was a drag

[@almightydreadhead6909]

@@rugsamillion5904 when??

[@imsentinelprime9279]

@@rugsamillion5904 ?

[@tirannoeric]

He is talking about the police scene. Didnt bother me tbh

[@a7pha208]

@@rugsamillion5904 cry harder

[@KOSTAS84]

21:30 guys I think the reason for this is because the driver of the truck knows what the girl in the truck can actually do, so he keeps moving as he's supposed to according to the plan. And you can understand how focused they are on their mission when you watch the airplane scene, where one of them decides to sacrifice himself for their cause in seconds. So that team gives me the sense of , we going to accomplish what we are for ,no matter the cost.

[@DeliciousCornbread]

"It's a bad neighborhood" As a Marylander, is Baltimore a joke to you? lol 😆 love ya AJ

[@tyreesehall7915]

😂😂😂 yeah it’s definitely not good here

[@cochisestar3120]

I bet new cap dies and falcon takes shield.

[@ProjectDelta1]

Walker is henceforth known as "Great Value Cap".

[@TheSeriousSentinel]

Should be “Kirkland Signature Cap”

[@tabascoslim5034]

Lol nice

[@ProjectDelta1]

@@TheSeriousSentinel Kirkland is actually better quality though

[@poppapalpatine8624]

😂

[@eziofalcon2105]

This show is very meh to me :\. I don't buy the conflict/relationship between bucky and falcon. The plot feels more wishy-washy than I thought it would be. I feel perpetually bored watching this, not much intrigue. I'm also not a fan of the "look at all these super soldiers" thing, it feels kinda generic. I also think I just miss Steve Rogers, he was the glue between these two characters that made it work. Maybe by the end, I'll feel differently, but yeah. 6/10

[@privatebh]

Respect your opinion but you’re in the minority. I think this is 9 or 10 range. This is quality tv, but I am a little biased because I connect with the themes and captain America is my favorite hero

[@eziofalcon2105]

@@privatebh Yeah, I figured I'd prob be in the minority here lol. I agree it is quality tv though. It's better than most of the crap that's out there (3-4/10 stuff). I think I may be setting my expectations too high. Cap ain't my favorite, but I did really like his character. I don't feel like bucky and falcon fill the gap he left at this point for me. I'm glad a lot of people are enjoying it though :)

[@funnyman8713]

I don’t get the conflict part. Bucky and Sam were getting along relatively well until that therapy scene.

[@pavlozakharevych2733]

Can't believe they missed the White Wolf reference!

[@poppapalpatine8624]

Ikr especially since Joe is such a big witcher fan