The Fall of Pokemon's Strongest Pseudo-Legendary

[@kaotic300]

it would be sooo epic of ray wins a 4th world championship and takes metagross to the top once again 🏆🌎

[@FlygonkingVGC]

It’s not that gross now with heavy slam

[@treysmith9314]

Gouging fire is not gonna let that happen

[@kaotic300]

@@treysmith9314 depends on the set and if the tera is used (i've seen many tera fairy gouging fires) metagross can technically win a world championship just by being on a winning even if it isn't used in battle (thereby avoiding a gouging fire matchup)

[@zhanlin6179]

It’ll be very cool if that happens. But let’s be real, even for Wolfey who’s keeping up with VGC for years nonstop along with good results, winning worlds is still a hard thing. Even if Ray is as good as he was a decade ago, giving him this expectation for his returning is still a bit toxic.

[@kaotic300]

@@zhanlin6179 just qualifying for worlds is crazy hard, let alone winning it. ray winning for a 4th time (with or without a metagross) would make for an amazing story, but is highly unlikely. its probably more wishful thinking than toxic tho

[@Bjix]

GameFreak needs to grow some balls and give metagross shift gear

[@joegarcia0]

Bro wtf, no 😂

[@WalmartWhite.]

Enjoy your dislike ​@@joegarcia0

[@fogwzu]

​@@joegarcia0yes ,Yes, YES!

[@avej99]

Relax satan

[@Shikiai12]

@@joegarcia0Ngl next generations power level would probably actually make this balanced and finally give him the UU placement he deserves(shift gear metagross isn’t hitting Ubers or OU, to many ground and fire types would don’t care about it kingambit, Darkrai, meowscarada can do something, and Doubles in general) Nvm I was wrong

[@xdferocious6016]

Calling yourself a washed up king is hilarious 😂

[@AlmostNamedOne]

hasn't won a worlds in a while

[@rudrahazari8087]

@@AlmostNamedOnehas not played worlds in a while , went out on top

[@AlmostNamedOne]

oh i thought he just stopped being the best

[@rudrahazari8087]

@@AlmostNamedOne na he does commentary now for regionals and all

[@rudrahazari8087]

He is the only person to win worlds 3 times

[@MorrisPXG]

Metagross in the Past:Kaboom? Arceus:Yes Metagross,Kaboom.

[@oopsgtg]

Great video, I'd also add that Metagross was the best mon in Gen 3 VGC as well, Isao Yoshioka won Japan Nationals 2004 with it, and Takashi Mase used it to win in 2005, it was also the most used in the 2005 format.

[@danielboismier6194]

I think Metagross was on at least a few of the winning teams in 2006’s JAA.

[@BlueEye096]

Metagross and Incineroar. The strongest Pokemon in history vs the strongest Pokemon of today.

[@AuroraBoost]

Metagross really hit that "Nah I'd win" on Incineroar

[@iantaakalla8180]

Metagross really tried to break and repair its brain with five Zen Headbutt Domain Expansions, and still lost

[@xyannail4678]

Incineroar really hit Metagross with the "With this treasure I summon, Dark Lariat."

[@polarissolaris-q3x]

@@iantaakalla8180 Zenin Headbutt

[@Warlord_Megatron]

@@AuroraBoost you got it reversed bud

[@scottcrysel]

One of my all time faves. Still bring my shiny cherish ball metagross forward from ORAS every gen for celebrity appearances on the ladder

[@2yoyoyo1Unplugged]

SAME

[@chefkochjay]

My Boi just casually inserted clips of him beating Wolfey in this video. Gotta love their friendship :)

[@VampiresAreRealGuys]

lmao and "Aaron Cyberton Zheng here"

[@dustrose8101]

Not washed, just a retired king.

[@plutigvid]

It still makes me so sad that he got cheated out of his world's qualification this last competitive year. I think he had a very real chance of having an amazing world's run, and I was so excited for the storyline.

[@BigDeetz]

Funny how Beldum is still so hard to catch when metagross is no longer nearly so intimidating

[@gregorymirabella1423]

It doesn't have take down anymore and is easier to find, so it's not so bad anymore.

[@Greninja3366]

My first ever shiny was a shiny metang in Pokémon black, I got it to 1hp and paralyzed it, then used over 300 timer balls on it without catching it, then after I used up all my revives it killed itself by hitting my volcarona 💀 This happened so long ago but I still remember it clearly and despise the metagross line to this day

[@gregorymirabella1423]

@@Greninja3366 I feel bad for 2 reasons. One is the fact that you went through that, and the other is that I caught the shadow Metagross in coliseum in a pokeball on my first try.

[@atpyro7920]

@@gregorymirabella1423 in fairness, that metagross's catch rate was bumped up to 45 instead of 3

[@gregorymirabella1423]

@@atpyro7920 ...I didn't know that. I feel a lot less special now.

[@AceTrainerLiam]

Love these deep dives! Can’t wait for more!

[@poxx1525]

Cool to see you making content. I remember the Wigglytuff regional win you got in X and Y and it got me to take VGC seriously.

[@harb1ng3r82]

The gutting of explosion was a really unfortunate change, but I get why GameFreak chose to do it. Thanks for making this vid, because I think a lot of people these days really don’t understand how dominant Metagross was for a few generations, and hearing the GOAT talk about VGC Gross from firsthand experience is awesome.

[@lelandwhitehead56]

Has been my favorite ‘mon since Steven Stone used it against me in Ruby and then gave me a baby Beldum. I’d love for it to see some competitive successes again!

[@nnicoiosi]

Let me add that Metagross is, to no surprise, the king of Orre Colosseum (Gen 3 VGC) as well. Clear Body, access to the best physical movepool pre-phys/spec-split including the coveted EQ and Explosion (both of which get no spread damage reduction in gen 3) and the rare steel type with its amazing synergy with the other best mons, the Latis, make it the undisputed best physical attacker in the format.

[@brady7222]

metagross is one of my favorites! I hope it kicks ass in vgc now that it's back

[@jordannng7180]

Steel types should still resist ghost. I have no idea why they changed that. Ghost is such a phenomenal typing both offensively and defensively. Metagross definitely suffered one of the hardest during that transition. Aegislash ruined everything lol

[@marcop.525]

It's like bug not very effective against fairy

[@davidc.]

Steel is already one of if not the best type. It doesn't need more help

[@Phantompuff]

Psychic should have been the one to no longer be resisted by steel, not ghost.

[@MayHugger]

There wasn’t really a proper reason why it resisted ghost and dark, and they gave it an advantage over the new best type to make up for it, it just happened that Metagross didn’t appreciate the trade.

[@inoobtacular501]

@rayrizzo. You'll always be the goat. You're not washed

[@TheRealKaylee_loljk]

He has funny jokes

[@SacredBlaziken]

He's the eternal Opp of the Modern GOAT, Wolfe Glick. Wolfie and Ray are Metagross & Incineroar

[@stallsunguy3064]

​@@SacredBlaziken TRUE

[@jebalitabb8228]

Metagross has always been my fav pseudo legend so it’s sad to see where it is

[@AshmitSinha2005]

Ray huge hatts off for such an epic editing and talking about my favorite Pokemon too 😁❤

[@yommmrr]

I havent subbed to anyone in a long while but i just did. This channel will go somewhere.

[@nobodyimportant4778]

Fun fact: beldum's got the same catch rate as arceus, except it can kill itself.

[@calebcalhoun9847]

“Metagross, *much like myself sadly* , is the washed up king” Me: Huh? _checks channel_ WAIT WTF? RAY RIZZO?!

[@unknown634VODS]

I forgot I got your metagross event pokemon until I saw the clip of your shiny metagross and then I remembered the distribution

[@wesselvandorsten]

My all-time favourite 'mon. Will never stop trying to force teams around it.

[@Mcspazz731]

Same. Glad to see a fellow cultured pokemon fan worshipping at the church of Metagross

[@juggerdarknaut013]

Metagross for life!!!

[@kamemelia]

Same! He's been in 90% of my teams

[@Meaniepanini305]

MY MAN!

[@SoulXCross.]

It's the same with Empoleon. Steel types losing the 2 resistance, and now losing Scald, really sealed the deal on Empoleon opportunity to finally shine big.

[@JpDeltell]

You forgot to mention it has the best shiny in the game. Jokes aside, great video great editing🎉

[@standjob9161]

Metagross one of the few pseudos directly nerfed like 3 times it was so sad

[@lachlanbaxter-jones7541]

Great thumbnails! Wouldn’t of found the channel without them

[@Connowot387]

0:20 Sonic Boom! Nice!

[@luissilva1954]

it's important for newer players to know that, despite every speed stat shown being numerically the same as their base speed at 15:00, doubling the speed stat *is not* the same thing as doubling the base speed stat fully invested neutral nature mega swampert (base 70 speed) has 239 speed at level 100. During rain, its speed goes up to 478, which would be equivalent of a pokemon having nearly *190 base speed*

[@kza6648]

every stat that isnt hp has about 20 "base" points from ivs and 30 from max evs, so mega swampert has essentially base 190 on rain, which for gen7 uu was so juicy

[@Seetiyan]

The editing in this video is top-notch! I cracked up at the car crash.

[@pokezach494_]

Thank you sir, I appreciate that 🫡

[@troybrockmorales1444]

I really liked this video. I have been wanting to play older gen formats with my friends, but I can't find much infk about those metas and strategies of that time. I hope that is something you can make a video on

[@mainzer45]

If you're interested in older gen game play, at least for singles, big yellow, reverend, and plague von karma are great for gen 1, jimothy cool has a good amount of gen 3 content, and bkc for gen 1-4 content and some other gens here and there, with a ton of good gen 2 content. You can also look up pre-built teams and viability rankings for old gens to get a good idea of how to build a team in any individual generation.

[@troybrockmorales1444]

@mainzer45 where can I look up for pre built teams for older gen? Is there a website that has all that info? Maybe info on older metas and so forth

[@mainzer45]

@@troybrockmorales1444 just start by looking up generation(IE rby/gsc/rse/dpp) then prebuild, normally you'll find them on the smogon forums. Same as the viability rankings. Prebuild teams on the forums tend to have explanations of their roles as well in the metagame, and so do many viability rankings.

[@ArgenPolmerica]

I love how you used the clip of Goh catching a Beedrill

[@kobiemartinbose6126]

Metagross SHOULD have a good showing in gen 9 VGC especially with buffs in Heavy slam and bullet punch with CB sets to deal with mane. Psychic Fangs can be significant to break through against the recent regional uproar of specs Articuno with veil A-Ninetales. It still has good support offense in knock off is superb for rocky helmet/choice users. Personally, if the Snow teams with cuno and A-Ninetales continue to be threats, Metagross alongside other good counters like tera water Ting-lu would bring major assets to the table as counterplays while serving as threatening offensive pokemon.

[@YoJoRockThaBeat]

Being weak to Fluttermane and Dark Shifu just hurts it so much though. Mainly the latter. If it wasn't for that I think Metagross would be on more howl teams.

[@ecid1176]

Now let's just give him shift gear and watch the world burn.

[@2yoyoyo1Unplugged]

Mega-Metagross was SO COOL

[@eduardohierro6086]

Babe, wake up, new Ray Rizzo

[@johncapet]

the thumbnail is sick

[@bryanurbay1208]

12:40 ULTRAKILL DETECTED

[@breezyvgc]

The unfortunate thing about Metagross is that people are still stuck on the explosion strats with it, going with normal tera explosion, which in my opinion is holding it back. The problem is now everyone knows about the infamous tera normal explosion strat and it's super easy to deal with (just double protect). Anyways I'm now off to build a metagross team because I'm inspired.

[@poppyfrancis7338]

I miss old explosion. The move was balanced well enough as it was, it didn't need to lose the defense lowering. Although, that said, I don't find explosion strategies fun to begin with, I just want them to be worth considering in serious play again

[@tommyvril]

More of these please 👏🏼

[@ernestomoreno4409]

I played the early games when they were released without realising that steel was resistant to dark and ghost.

[@Anaomilfairbanks]

7:48 Wolfe is a complete chad rolling with all shinies to the top of worlds stage

[@Submissive-Soul]

one of Metagrosses worst hits was the weakness to ghost and dark so many strong ghosts and mega gengar trapped and hit it's weaker special defence... Aegislash could easily tank an earthquake and kill it back with a spec shadowball

[@miguelsanchez825]

Wish they gave him though claws as a hidden ability. His hidden ability is just to bad and psychic type is very bad atm, they could even buff meteor mash is kinda mid atm.

[@thomkins10]

It's funny how you called yourself washed Ur the vgc goat

[@zm2mad9]

Bro got shafted hard by mechanics changes. First it was the explosion nerf, then the nerf to steel, power creep, losing mega in Gen 8

[@promarebs3895]

Gouging fire howl + life orb metagross is soooo good

[@FlygonkingVGC]

I’m gonna say it again megas coming back with dynamic speed would be crazy

[@goomyiscute777]

“If you’re nothing without the Metagrossite, then you shouldn’t have it.”

[@MrBrowser1881]

subscribed, glad I just found this channel, awesome and insightful video, thank you

[@Illumisepoolist]

Don't forget Tera Water Metagross to have it have coverage against Fire Types.

[@hassanmahmoud6495]

I know moxie boosted wanted Metagross to get shift gear, but is the set up that worth it? I ask because I know sometimes people think if a pokemon needs set up it may not be “good”

[@Mcspazz731]

Short answer yes. Agility weakness policy was already pretty solid, it only needs 1 turn with shift gear to be a huge menace, which it will get from its bulk. As for setup mons not being good, it can be true sometimes but there's also trick room for example which takes bad pokemon (too slow to do anything) and makes them great

[@imn_fauler6098]

And this regulation, while not being common it certainly is a monster of a mon

[@ZedBeiFeng]

Incineroar was busted then they gave him parting shot like why he was already winning every world championship he doesn’t need parting shot.

[@Dadmagic]

Great editing!

[@ZitroNino]

love your videos keep it up man 😎

[@vuuduugames4778]

Actually, if explosion cuts the opponent’s defense in half, that is the equivalent to giving the move a base 50% power boost. So that means explosion is effectively 375, and not doubled to 500.

[@ttttttttttttttttt.]

250 / 0.5 = 500

[@LilskeevsGaming]

Great video from the goat 🐐💯💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼

[@vivderbinkie56]

i was gonna scream primal groudon as the most prevalent comp pokemon

[@HannibalKantter]

Metagross is my favourite pseudo-legendary right after Garchomp. I rememeber finally evolving one as a child in Ruby, and being amazed at just how strong and durable it was. I didn't understand weaknesses and resistances very well back then (I mean, I was 4), I only knew that barely any attack damaged it in any substantial way, and it punched like a truck in return

[@ethanbriandmello5048]

11:04 I never expected seeing an economics concept in a discussion of Mega Pokemon.

[@PkmnTrainerEmerald]

Metagross my dude

[@BRUIN1821]

Weakness Policy Agility Bulldoze is my favorite flavor of Metagross

[@FarhanH1]

Awesome video. I totally forgot that steel used to resist dark and ghost. Fairy/Steel is truly the new Psychic/Steel. Edit: accidentally wrote psychic instead of steel. Now corrected.

[@Smart1529]

You mean Steel right 😅

[@FarhanH1]

@@Smart1529 yeah hahaha

[@SerDerpish]

One of my favorite mons ever! HYYYYPE 🍻🙌🏽🎉

[@BRUIN1821]

When Megas are back, Metagross will be TERRIFYING with all the moves it gained access to in Scarlet/Violet

[@killerqueen721]

It's less of a fall from grace and more of a retirement

[@aravindsabarinathan9737]

Name three world pokemon world champions who have three world champion wins 1.Ray rizzo 2.Metagross 3.inceneroar

[@gregorymirabella1423]

Just give it a regional form that swaps psychic for anything else. Ghost, fairy, ground, flying, roc- okay maybe not anything but the point still stands.

[@Guesswhoswatching2]

All you had to say in one breath is: steel types no longer resist ghost and dark.

[@blazarus1614]

Ray, i wna see u back on competitive pokemon just to see wolfe and ray rematch

[@ytheUltimate]

Tried it in competitive...too bad dark urshifu exists. Also flutter mane can survive a bullet punch and threaten with shadow ball.

[@Esmonimoni]

WE NEED RAY BACK 🙏

[@haime6930]

Why did metagross never get the ability levitate? It makes alot of sense to have it

[@daviaugustodeoliveira9047]

my favorite pokémon

[@rapmetaldemon09]

Huh...always thought that Tyranitar was the most storied pseudo legend. The more you know 🌠

[@LRXC1]

Rip the entirety of gen3 VGC, cool video otherwise!

[@77Fallen7]

They robbed Metagross with the levitate hidden ability.

[@bryanmarcia4104]

Holy Moly its Ray Rizzo

[@algar6616]

Great content I’m contented

[@viviannabriano5645]

What sucks is King gambit toilet seat having ass just is better if not more tanky and defiant is better than clear body. It's over for Metagross I tried making it work with weakness policy and nope no luck

[@xfusionz619]

Its better in singles now I'm in master ball tire with metagross singles I believe the highest you can take metagross in dubble is ultra ball rank

[@gheleorm8894]

Nice vid' and instructive ! Thanks !

[@marcorodriguez8792]

Make steel resist ghost and dark again

[@johnnnysaint01]

Do you and Wolf use the same editor and thumbnail person???

[@pokezach494_]

No, Wolfe has an entirely different team for his videos At some point though I’d like to be able to edit videos for Wolfe’s channel as well!

[@Buzztheshowhost]

Ray I always wondered which generation did you get your metagross from

[@xfusionz619]

I feel bad for metagross 😢

[@The_Psycho_Red_Ranger]

same, my boi got nerfed 😢

[@Meaniepanini305]

@@The_Psycho_Red_RangerI wouldn’t say NERFED, I’d say he’s just retired, and he deserves a healthy retirement for being peak

[@The_Psycho_Red_Ranger]

@@Meaniepanini305 idiot

[@jonming6676]

It’s weird referring to Ray Rizzo as washed. Ray Rizzo = Jordan Wolfey = Lebron

[@Bob-jh6xt]

Metagross has always been my favorite pokemon, but I never knew he was THIS good!

[@grandmastr2602]

Did y’all know Ray won a world championship

[@pokezach494_]

Boy do I have news for you

[@cloudstrife6793]

I'm guessing you are beeing ironic...

[@kyogrecrown5869]

Such a shame that metagross's hidden ability is effectively useless. Imagone if it had something cool, like giving it back its ghost and dark resistances

[@cloudstrife6793]

Great video man, always appreciate your take on this game. Did you manage tonqualifybfor worlds this year? I would love to see you compete in it once again❤

[@krisdimas511]

Awesome video Rizz' .. Metagross is my favorite poke' along with Alakazam ..

[@Amaling]

Ok so Ray is the Metagross to Wolfey's Incineroar, got it

[@wii3564]

C'mon man dont do that to my boy Parasect lol

[@PT5-Shorts]

Will you do a video with WolfeVGC

[@prodigalsun1678]

Hear me out gamefreak needs to do a “balance patch” for a large variety of old gen pokemon. Instead of giving them megas and other new features they need to actually adjust the stats and either buff or nerf new and old pokemon so there is more incentive to play a wider variety of pokemon. Theres no reason they havent done it yet other than being stubborn because theyve never done it before.

[@memphisbelle6077]

Soundtrack @4:28?

[@pokezach494_]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/eoW9ZXiqhNqsi9Usi=RsKAIXMCL4CvVnb8

[@Igor-gw4io]

Dialga/Palkia battle theme

[@ro-q7621]

I wish metagross got more used often in compaditive. I love that pokemon ^^